Alt Left: Resolved: All Feminists Are Toxic

I just posted this question to Reddit r/feminists. I swear to God I tried to be as pro-feminist as possible. I went out of my way to try not to say anything antifeminist, though I nevertheless had to be honest. Every single thing I wrote in my comment is 100% fact. I got two comments, and I was immediately banned. I was shocked as I was not expecting that. I am still trying to figure out why they banned me. Was it because I mentioned that man-hatred was still a problem among feminists?
The percentages of feminists who are 2nd and 3rd Wavers is a good question, but feminists have no use for facts, science, truth or data like all Identity Politics scum, so it’s not surprising I did not get any answers. Actually you will probably never get any answers because feminists don’t like to argue hard factual questions about much of anything.
I don’t imagine there’s a feminist anywhere on Earth who would try to answer what the % of 2nd Wavers to 3rd Wavers are, although it’s an empirical question. Actually if you try to ask it now, you will get more handwaves saying there’s no such as 3rd Wave because we are now in the 4th Wave of this idiotic bullshit. Never mind that the 4th Wave differs in no important ways from the 3rd wave and that most feminists nowadays objectively appear to be 3rd Wavers.
Here’s the question:

My question is which group of feminists is stronger now, 2nd or 3rd Wave? And what percentages of feminism are divided into 2nd and 3rd wavers? I believe that the 3rd wave is more numerous now, but I am really interested in what % of feminists are 2nd wave radical feminists.
Definitions below:
2nd Wave feminists to be mostly radical feminists at the moment, if we define Second Wave as TERF and TESW’s opposed to among other things:

  • Legalization or decrim of sex work
  • All sex work (strippers, cam models, porn stars)
  • Sex dolls
  • Pornography
  • PIV sex
  • Anal sex
  • Fellatio (sometimes)
  • Romance (sending flowers, etc.)
  • Artificial birth control (too dangerous for women)
  • Beauty industry (to the point of deliberately advocating that woman make themselves appear ugly to oppose it)
  • Femininity (to the point of promoting women to act and dress like men)

And an extreme hostility towards men in general exemplified by:

  • A theory that eliminates the class struggle of proletarian workers versus ruling class capitalist owners and replacing it with a gender struggle with men as a ruling oppressor class and women as an oppressed “proletarian class.”
  • Extreme emphasis on Patriarchy and Rape Culture theory.
  • Extreme celebration of lesbianism and hostility to heterosexuality in general for women. General sex-negative and near-puritanical mindset.
  • Support for lesbian and female separatism.
  • Support for curfews for men, putting men in internment camps, reducing the male population to 10%, etc.

All of these view are extremely common among radical feminism. There are few who do not go along with all or nearly all of these positions.
So that’s 2nd Wave.
Everything else is now 3rd Wave. Even Socialist and Marxist feminism, formerly 2nd wavers, are now 3rd Wavers. Most other strains are also 3rd Wavers with the exception of New Feminism (unclassifiable?) and some strains of Liberal Feminism like Equity Feminism, which are best described as 1st wavers, the descendants of the suffragettes.
3rd Wave differs from 2nd Wave in the following ways:

  • Sex positive.
  • Pro-porn, pro-BD/SM, pro-prostitution, and other sex work
  • Reduced celebration of lesbianism
  • Support for heterosexuality for women
  • Pro-PIV sex, fellatio, anal sex, etc.
  • educed emphasis on rape culture, patriarchy, etc.
  • Reduced hatred for men, although it is definitely still there
  • Much more open to dating, relationships, and marriage with men
  • No support for separatism
  • Support for sex dolls
  • Opposition to male curfews and internment camps, reduction of male population, etc.
  • Pro-romance
  • Pro-artificial birth control
  • For socialist and Marxist feminists, rejection of radfem replacement of class struggle with gender struggle and replacement or owners and workers with men and women as oppressor and oppressed groups. Extreme emphasis on class roots of women’s oppression in capitalism and a recognition that male workers are also oppressed under capitalism.
  • Pro-transgender
  • Pro-femininity
  • Pro-beauty industry (makeup, tight clothes, heels, spandex, etc.)

First answer: Hard to answer something when the question seems way off. Where are you getting these definitions from?
Me: The definition of radical feminist beliefs comes from me being on their websites and studying them for long periods of time. Although I am open to any rational people who want to tell me where I am wrong about them. My definition of 3rd wavers should not be controversial, or it is, I want to know why.
Male curfews and internment camps…? Who have you been reading?
Me: Major radical feminist thinkers have advocated curfews for men in articles. Although the articles was later said to be satire, it did not seem so at first and they always say that everything inflammatory they write is satire. All of the comments that followed for months after those articles were published treated the articles as if they were serious. Commenters even offered their own serious takes on the subject, with one man suggesting that cities be divided into male halves and female halves with mingling allowed during the daylight hours but after dark, each sex would have to retire to its own section of town.
Numerous radical feminists have suggested that men and sometimes even boys be placed into internment camps and be kept there “until they can learn to behave themselves in a civilized fashion.” Radical feminist Julie Bindel recently wrote an article in the Guardian suggesting this in all seriousness. The article promoted a scandal, but she is still on the staff.

Most Fucked Up Videos on the Internet

Other than the ones we used to host here (And who know, maybe you can still find them here?) there are lots of really messed up videos on the Net these days. Apparently they are all legal. Not talking about the child porn stuff. Of course that’s messed up, and sure it’s illegal. Sorry, but I can’t give you any links to that stuff. Go ask Pedobear and Google and maybe you will get lucky.
There’s been a big debate lately over crush videos, including an extensive Supreme Court debate. These are some really messed up videos of small animals getting killed by women wearing high heels. The women talk like dominatrixes while they crush the animals with their high heels. I’m not sure what animals are killed, but the most notorious ones feature kittens and I guess puppies.
I saw part of one featuring an apparent Japanese women crushing to death a kitten with her high heels. I saw the start of it and then turned it off. I don’t want to see a kitten getting crushed. The Japanese woman that was marketing those was reportedly hunted down and beaten to death by an animal rights group, but that may just be an urban legend. Anyway, I hope she did get crushed to death by some humans. Plus, I hope the videotaped it so we can put it up on the Net and watch this sick bitch getting stomped to death.
So, crush videos are messed up. They are made for males, males who are sexually twisted. There are a bunch of these idiots out there, guys who get off on crush videos. Curiously, most of them identify with the animals getting crushed, and they have a fantasy about getting crushed by a dominatrix. I kinda feel sorry for these guys, because I have counseled some males who were stuck sexually in weird fetishes, and they could not seem to get outside of them.
Anyway, I think videos of bitches crushing kittens and puppies to death with high heels should be banned. That’s just messed up. If she’s already in prison, I guess we can release the video as evidence of a crime (and therefore documenting reality), but otherwise, the idea that people are killing animals for profit and kicks makes me ill. Ban it the same way we ban child porn.
Snuff videos are illegal, even though they don’t even exist. What about videos of real folks getting killed. No one seems to know, but it seems that they are legal. It’s often a crime, and the victim is dead anyway. If it’s a crime, it ought to be legal under Documenting Reality Theory (that’s a legal theory I just made up). It’s evidence of a crime, and LE needs to get the perpetrators. If they’ve already been dealt with, then it’s just history, and ought to be legal.
There is a question of whether death videos cause copycat killings. I don’t have the faintest idea and a part of me doesn’t care. I’m sure sociopaths can’t get enough horror films.
Concerning videos not featured on this site, we have Hatchet Versus Genitals, which I have not seen. I guess it is some idiot chopping his dick off. There is a video out called BME Pain Olympics featuring a bunch of idiots mutilating their dicks, chopping them off and whatnot. It’s supposedly fake, but there are apparently real idiots who actually do such things. It’s almost always a guy. I have no idea why a guy would want to commit violence on his dick, much less cut it off. Perhaps commenters can enlighten me.
1 Man 1 Screwdriver is one of the latest shock vids. I never uploaded it since WordPress does not allow porn videos. This moron from Russia sticks a screwdriver in his urethra, and slowly slides it out again. His dick starts bleeding afterward, and there is blood on the screwdriver. I have not seen the video. Guys sticking things in their urethras is pretty common. Arthur Kinsey used to like to do this.
I think it sounds like a pretty hazy thing to do. I’m 51, and my dick is sort of marginal these days anyway, so I see no reason why I should mess around and make it permanently F-4.
Kids in a Sandbox features a guy and a woman naked in bed. She shoves a dildo in the guy’s urethra. It somehow goes into his urethra. She pulls it out, and his dick looks like it is split in half. I don’t understand how morons do this to their dicks without suffering permanent damage. The guy and the woman are laughing and carrying on the whole time the guy’s dick is getting mangled.
1 Guy 1 Jar is another recent sensation, done by the same Russian moron who shoved the screwdriver up his dick. This idiot, about 40 years old, married, with kids, working at a good job, likes to shove huge things up his ass, even though he is straight. It’s true that guys that stick stuff up their asses are not necessarily queer. Usually they are, but not always.
Anyway, this idiot likes to stick jars up his ass for some dumb reason. In 1 Guy 1 Jar he sticks a jar up his ass. After a while you hearing a cracking sound. He stand up and starts pulling shards of glass out his ass, and blood starts coming out of his ass onto the floor. Soon we have a nice little pool of blood on the floor filled with glass shards. I have not seen the video, but I saw a few stills of it. The guys claims he got almost all the glass out, and he is still sticking jars up his ass. His wife does not know about his habit.
One of the most recent ones is 1 Guy 1 Dolphin. I have not seen it yet. This idiot queer or whatever he is sucks a male dolphin’s cock. How he gets the dolphin to do this, I have no idea. Well this continues until the dolphin cums in his mouth. People are saying that this video is “the end of the Internet.”
The spate of shock videos seems to be egging psychos and morons on to make more and more extreme psycho and idiot videos and upload them onto the Net. There is supposedly a necrophilia video that just came out of some guy having sex with a woman’s corpse and making jokes while he is doing it. I have not seen it and don’t know any details on it.
There are videos out of idiots flashing their cocks at women and girls as they drive by in cars. I have seen a bit of those videos. That’s pretty disturbing behavior all right. We are dealing with a crime here and I don’t know if this crap should be legal or what.
Mr. Hands is famous. Some queer and his twisted queer buddies were into getting fucked by horses. The guy lived in Enumclaw, Washington. In the video, the idiot gets fucked in the ass by a horse. They pull the horse’s cock out at the last minute and the horse ejaculates. Although the idiot apparently did not die in the making of this video, he did apparently die in a later horse-fucking video. The horse’s cock ruptured the idiot’s anus and he died of peritonitis or something in the hospital. I’m actually glad that this moron died.
There are also lots of scat videos, which feature idiots shitting on each other, idiots shitting into other idiots mouths who then eat the shit, idiots smearing shit all over themselves, etc etc. The shitty possibilities are endless. Often the people start vomiting in the course of the video, and of course, in that case, the only logical thing to do is to puke in the other person’s mouth, right?
The most famous of those is 2 Girls 1 Cup, which I have seen. It’s supposedly fake, done with chocolate ice cream, though I don’t see how. 2 Girls 1 Finger is actually way worse, along the same lines. 1 Priest 1 Nun is similar.
I don’t generally watch anymore of those scat videos because if you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all.
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