I had heard that Ukrainians were shelling the outskirts of Kharkiv but I could never understand why. Russians kept saying they weren’t shelling the city, so they didn’t know why Ukrainians were shelling the suburbs. Here is why. Apparently they were shelling their own people to make it look like Russia was doing it. I assume this is out of Kharkiv because that’s where the Ukrainians were doing this. They also mention the DPR and Ukrainians in other parts of Ukraine wouldn’t do this. And they speak Russian very well. People in Kharkiv speak Russian.
Ukraine released the first part showing people “fleeing Russian bombing.” LOL it’s from a movie from 1997 LOL.
The recent Rolling Stone has an article about “Assad’s Sarin attack on East Douma.” Rolling Stone is leftwing. So here in the US we are divided into left Al Qaeda supporters, center Al Qaeda supporters, and Right Al Qaeda supporters. Another way to look at it is Democratic Al Qaeda supporters, Republican Al Qaeda supporters, and Independent Al Qaeda supporters. The US is basically Al Qaeda.
If you can’t figure out that that attack was totally fake, as even the CIA has acknowledged, you support Al Qaeda. Not that that is shocking as the US has been supporting Al Qaeda in Syria for a long time and also in Yemen for a while. There is evidence we were supporting them in Iraq at the same time we were fighting them! We also supported Al Qaeda in Libya. So the US loves and supports Al Qaeda. That’s what the US stands for.
Here in this war, if you support Ukraine, you’re a Nazi as far as I’m concerned. Or at least you’re a Nazi supporter or collaborator. So here in the West we have the Nazi Right, the Nazi Center, and the Nazi Left. The Nazi Left? What on Earth is that? We have Nazi Democrats, Nazi Independents, and Nazi Republicans.
In other words, the Sarin Attack That Never Happened. The MI6 and CIA, massive liars themselves, have said that the Sarin recovered was not Assad’s Sarin. It was cheap “bathtub Sarin” that looked like the stuff Al Qaeda was making in Turkey. That’s why Obama called off the invasion of Syria – because the CIA told him that Assad didn’t do it.
There probably was no Sarin attack from anyone on that day. Small amounts of Sarin were found in the blood of some people, mostly Al Qaeda fighters, but they were at a level that is too low to cause symptoms. Apparently Al Qaeda released some of their Sarin somehow that day in small amounts.
The vast majority of the “victims” had no Sarin in their system at all. All of the poison symptoms we see in the victims are not consistent with Sarin poisoning. Not one victim has symptoms of Sarin poisoning. Instead the symptoms seem to resemble Carbon Monoxide poisoning.
Also, quite a few of the victims had their throats slit! Does Sarin slit your throat?
Many of the victims have been identified, but they were all Christians and Alawi civilians who were kidnapped from villages in Northern Syria. They had been held as hostages for a year and were apparently murdered and presented as victims of the attack. They did this in some of the other fake attacks. They killed enemy civilians they had kidnapped and had been keeping prisoner and passed them off as their own victims. Once again, they look to have died of carbon monoxide poisoning.
There are photographs that we found of the attack. One shows a building with green tanks that are hissing some sort of gas. We believe that those are carbon monoxide tanks that are hissing carbon monoxide. We think the victims were left in there and killed with carbon monoxide. As noted, all identified victims were identified as “infidel” hostages.
There was some Sarin released in the area, probably by Al Qaeda. That Sarin was identified by the MI6 as “not Assad’s Sarin.” The CIA concurred.
Yet here we have “left” Rolling Stone running interference for Al Qaeda and repeating the fake story, going against the assessment of our very own CIA.
Israel intercepted a message from the Syrian Interior Department saying, “Did we just launch a Sarin attack in Damascus?” As you can see, they were surprised themselves. You don’t think Interior would have known if an attack was done? Obviously they were shocked by news of the attack because…it never happened!
There does appear to have been a mortar attack on the area. Assad’s Army said they never fired mortars at that area that day. The direction of the mortars shows they were not coming from Assad’s troops. Best we can tell is Al Qaeda shot mortars at their own civilians!
A few weeks prior to the “Syrian Sarin attack,” Al Qaeda fighters said they had been run through a chemical weapons attack and given chemical weapons gear. Why did they do an exercise weeks before the government attacked them? Do they have precognition? Obviously it was because they were planning a false flag.
In addition, we have acquired a smoking gun in the form of a message from a US DIA agent in Syria asking Turkey when the fake attack was going to take place. This was a couple of months before the fake attack. The DIA takes orders from the CIA and they are up to their mitts in all of this fake and false flag BS.
The DIA also seems to be involved in the M17 jet shoot down as we recovered a document from a US DIA agent in Ukraine working out of the Embassy to someone in the Ukrainian government asking them when the false flag shooting down of the jet was going to happen. This was shortly before the jet was shot down by a Ukrainian jet. Shortly afterwards, it was blamed on Russian rebels.
This was done because Ukraine was losing badly. False flags are always a great way to stop an enemy offensive due to the outrage they create.
In addition, about eight months earlier, we have John Kerry on record taking to Turkey asking when the chemical weapons false flag is going to happen. Kerry is getting anxious because he says it’s been delayed too long. It is thought that Turkey helped Al Qaeda do the attack.
Also we now have a videotape from Switzerland from 40 different White Helmets members, each one of them confessing that every single Assad chemical weapons attack they took part in and filmed was fake, part of a production. They were basically “crisis actors.” I’m not sure if they mentioned the Douma attack.
Keep in mind that the attack occurred exactly one year to the day after Obama gave his “line in the sand” speech saying that if Syria used chemical weapons, the US would invade. So exactly one year after this speech (in which Obama himself seems to be presaging the false flag) Assad is so stupid that he does a Sarin attack on that very day? Get out of here! How stupid do you have to be to do that? The reason for the emphasis on “chemical and biological weapons” in recent US Lying Wars is simple.
We need a casus belli. The UN says that if a government uses chemical or biological weapons, other governments have a right to go in there and disarm them. So use of chemical weapons gives us a casus belli for invading Syria. Get it? Also, the UN itself investigated the Douma attack and concluded that Assad’s forces didn’t do it.
I actually don’t think it’s a fake. The Russians are lying.
“While Vishegirskaya is a Ukrainian blogger in Mariupol who posts about skincare, makeup,and cosmetics, there is no evidence that she was anything but a patient at the hospital. She has posted multiple photos and videos on Instagram documenting her pregnancy in the past few months, and in one, she can be seen wearing the same polka-dot pajamas as on Wednesday.”
Look here, more pictures:
This is here Instagram account showing her pregnant 2, 3 and 6 weeks ago.
Putin is a monster. There is no way to justify this invasion. None. Zilch. The fucker is paranoid about NATO. I’m no neocon but I now a sin when I see one.
You’re hysterical. You’re just another Cold War conservative Russia-hater still hating Russia because of the Soviet Union. You think Russia is the USSR.
Nope. Notice that she’s playing two different pregnant women in that video. In one she has blond hair and in the other she has dark hair and the video says it’s too different women. There would be victims, women and kids, all over the place if that hospital got hit.
Correct, she is indeed pregnant. She’s also an actress and a model.
Consider this: The first photos of this fake attack came not from locals with cellphones but from a well-known Ukrainian photographer and propagandist who has been involved in these fakes for years. The very first photos are from a professional propaganda photographer known for setting up propaganda scenes. Before the citizens with cellphones!
The “wounds” on the “victims” are fake. The blood is the wrong color and the wounds are wrong for a bombing strike. Where it should have dripped all over their clothes, it didn’t. And on and on. The damage looks nothing like what a bomb would have done. All of the windows are intact! LOL.
In the video of the building afterwards, that doesn’t look like a building that got hit by a bomb. In one frame we see a bucket of red liquid by some spots on the ground. The spots are supposedly blood. It is the same weird color as the stuff in the bucket. That’s obviously a bucket of fake blood. The weird blood on the victims is the same odd color as this fake blood.
We have numerous reports from residents that that hospital was cleared on February 25, when the Azov Battalion came in and turned it into a base. You can go back and read these articles and note that the date on them is February 25. In fact, all three maternity hospitals were shut down at this time. When people protested, the wonderful Ukrainian fighters beat them with rifle butts. Nice people!
Next to the model/actress in a stretcher are a couple of men crouched around a campfire cooking a meal. LOL. Like right after a horrible bombing raid, the first thing you do is start a fire with wood and cook a can of beans. Come on!
Some of the “dead people” in the movie are moving. Those must be a special kind of dead people who move around after they die. I want to be like this when I go!
She could not have been a patient in that hospital because numerous residents are on record saying it was taken over by Azov and turned into a base twelve days before. You see any other mothers, staff, or babies in that hospital other than those few actors? Nope. That whole place would be strewn with bodies and wounded everywhere.
The damage is not correct for a bomb, a missile, a Kaliber missile, a rocket or any weapon in the Russian arsenal. It is only consistent with a Toshka missile that only the Ukrainians use. It looks like they shot a missile at their own hospital after it was evacuated. Looks like the missile landed outside the hospital.
Two days before the attack, the Russian government issued a bulletin complaining about the Azov Battalion taking over hospitals, kindergartens, etc. in Mariupol possible for use in false flag attacks and provocations. The Ministry deplored this. The specific hospital in question was mentioned by name and it was stated that staff and patients had all been evacuated 10 days before. So the Russians issued a bulletin mentioning this very hospital and then attacked it two days later.
In order to believe this, you have to believe something crazy.
1. The Russians made a specific bulletin mentioning just this hospital and lying that the Nazis had turned it into a base. They did this because they were going to deliberately bomb a hospital full of Moms, newborn babies, and and hospital staff. They were so evil that they even told the whole world they were going to do this two days before and lied and said it had been turned into a military base. Now why would the Russians do this? Only because they specifically wanted to bomb what they knew full well to be a maternity hospital full of staff, moms and babies. Why would they do this? Just because! Because they wanted to bomb a maternity hospital! Because that’s what Russians are like! They are evil people who bomb maternity hospitals just to be mean! LOL no way.
2. The overwhelming evidence including testimony from residents and Russia that the hospital had been abandoned and turned into a base and Russia specifically warning that the Nazis might be planning a provocation there. That and the great fakery surrounding the movie itself, the damage and wounds inconsistent with an attack, the few victims inconsistent with a bombing of a full hospital, idiots cooking food in the aftermath of a bombing, the presence of a professional propaganda photographer who just so happened to luckily be the first person on the scene, an actress and model who plays the roles of two completely different women, changing wigs and clothes in between, the damage only being consistent with a missile that only the Ukies use, the very few casaulties (only three wounded in a bombing attack on a packed hospital?), on and on and on.
This is just another White Helmets production. It’s all fake to top to bottom.
Really this whole war is nothing but a gigantic false flag. In a way, the whole war is “fake” in a sense because of the nonstop propaganda, lies, false flags, and fakes that the Ukrainians and their NATO buddies are putting out.
We seem to be entering into a “Post-truth” Era here. Or perhaps this is the Time of “Alternate Facts.” Other commenters have said that while false flags used to be fairly uncommon, now they are happening all the time. They said, “We seem to be entering into the Era of the False Flag.” Pat Laing said that the whole time he was in Vietnam, he had never seen the US lie as much as they are doing now. Sometimes it seems like that’s all we do anymore.
Anyway, this sort of thing seems to be defining our times. One thing is for sure is that the US government and the Western media are lying like complete maniacs. I don’t think I’ve ever seen propaganda, fakes, false flags, and media lying on this scale before.
The US is a dying empire.
Like most such things, it is no doubt lashing about wildly attacking everything around it in a doomed attempt to save its depraved involutional ass. I don’t think it’s going to work. As the decline of the US empire accelerates, its wickedness seems to grow by leaps and bounds.
As a hypothesis, this has the benefit of being quite plausible.
A Bilingual US-Truth Dictionary for our Modern Era
When the US says “truth,” they actually mean “lies.”
When the US says “Russian disinformation”, “Russian lies”, and “Russian propaganda,” as far as I can tell, that generally means “the truth.”
The truth is lies. Lies are facts. Up is down. Black is white. Right is wrong.
I’ve been reluctant to accuse Russia of telling the truth, but they seem to be keeping it pretty much straight up for a long time now. The only thing they do is sometimes deny things that make them look bad. They denied that they invaded Ukraine with 10-15,000 troops in 2014, and they denied that they lost any soldiers when they lost 180-220. The Russian group that I was on called out those lies and flat out said that Russia was lying when they denied it.
The separatists once blamed a shameful missile attack on a city on the enemy because they didn’t want to take credit for it. In 2014, the Donbass rebels claimed that the Ukrainians shot a Tochka missile at their own territory. In the very pro-Russian group I was on, we called that out pretty quickly as a lie, as obviously the separatists fired it. It landed in the parking lot of a city administration building and caused no harm and only minor property damage.
One thing I like about the Russian side is they call it out when the Russian government lies, which usually takes the form of denials that bad things happened.
US news reports that Russia blew up the power plant and power lines that lead to the Chernobyl Nuclear Plant, and they are now occupying it and preventing repairs from being made. Supposedly if the plant is cut off from power for a while, it could melt down again, hence, the Russians are causing a nuclear crisis.
The Russians say that the nationalist battalions destroyed the power plant to the reactor and the power lines going to the reactor as a provocation. The Nazi battalions have been engaging in one crazy false flag and provocation after another in this war. Think about it. They’re Nazis, right? You think devious false flags are beyond Nazis somehow?
Let me ask you. That power station is not a military target. There were no soldiers around there. Why on Earth would Russia blow up the power plant to the reactor and the power lines? In order to believe that you have to believe that Russia did it “just to be evil.” Why on Earth would they do that?!
1. Russia destroyed the power plant and power lines for no reason other than to be pure evil. They wanted to create a possible nuclear accident in Ukraine for no reason other than pure meanness. Russians are mean!
2. The Ukie Nazis destroyed the power plant and the lines as a provocation to blame Russia and to create what is possibly a false crisis involving the power plant. I’m sure Nazis wouldn’t do anything wicked and devious like that! The Russians say that the nuclear part of the plant has been shut down for years, and the plant operates only as a solar plant. Anyway, you could hit that thing with artillery or crash a 747 into it, and you still wouldn’t crack that dome and cause any radiation release, so this seems to be a fake crisis.
It is correct that Russia is now occupying the plant, but my information is that an electricity shutoff would not affect the plant, as the nuclear part of it has been shut down and nonoperational for years. So the whole thing seems like both a false flag and a fake crisis.
I pick number 2. Don’t know about the rest of you.
Igor: A couple of ‘Nazis’ in a town here or there doesn’t justify a full scale invasion of the whole country.
All Ukrainians hate Russians though. And rightly so. Remember the ‘Holdymor’? Or all the other bulking tactics Russia did on them?
Russia are a plague to their neighbors, and Ukraine wants nothing to do with ten and that is their right.
Luckily, the Russian army are getting flogged at time of writing.
Russia is a plague to its neighbors? It has an excellent relationship with Armenia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kirghizstan, Mongolia, China and especially Belarus, which is right next door. It’s true that nationalists in Ukraine and the Baltics hate Russia because the USSR thwarted their drive for independence. They also moved a lot of Russians into the Baltics, or perhaps the Russians moved themselves into the Baltics.
The Baltics and Ukrainians complain that Russia suppressed their national languages but I do not think that is true. They got to go to K-12 school all in their native language, there were newspapers, magazines, journals, TV and radio stations and literarure in their national languages. They even had universities where the language was that of the republic. And the USSR did set all of them free at the end. How many other nations would have set them free? None! You see any other countries setting their separatist regions free elsewhere in the world? Of course not.
The Germans came in and promised the Baltics, Belarus, and Ukraine independence from the USSR, so they were popular with the nationalists in these places, all of whom still love Nazis to this day. In the Baltics and Ukraine, all of the statues to the nationalist heroes were of Nazi collaborators. All four countries have a serious Nazi problem.
I’m not sure why Poles hate Russia. Poland has always been a football in between Poland and Russia. She has felt bullied by those two countries. Poland attacked Russia in 1919 for no good reason. Poles are also angry about Communism because it never went over well there. I think the Poles are just too Catholic for Communism to work well.
Stalin himself said that trying to impose Communism on the Poles was like “trying to put a saddle on a horse.” The Russia-hatred in these places is due to nationalism and the drive for independence, which they saw as thwarted by the USSR. Finns hate Russia too. The USSR attacked Finland and annexed some of their land in the Winter War in 1940. I’m not sure why the USSR did that.
The Fake Holodomor That Never Happened
Holodomor was fake. It never even happened! There was a famine but there was no terror famine. 2-3 million people died in Ukraine but they were concentrated in Eastern Ukraine where they were Russian and loved Stalin. It was even worse in the Volga region where Stalin was very popular. In addition, 1 million people died in Siberia. People died in Moscow. And lots of people died in Kazakhstan. And plenty of people died in the parts of Poland next to Ukraine.
In order to believe the crazy Holodomor myth, you have to believe
- Stalin deliberately starved Ukraine because he hated Ukrainians. But why? Why did he hate Ukrainians?
And why did his terror famine focus on Eastern Ukraine where they supported him. If he only wanted to starve Ukrainians, why did he starve people in the Volga too where they supported him. Stalin also had a lot of support in Kazakhstan. Why did he starve people there” That was almost as bad as Ukraine. Did he hate them too? How come they get left out of this debate? Why did he starve 1 million people in Siberia? Did he hated Siberians? Why did he starve people in Moscow? Did he hate Moscovites?
Wow, it looks like Stalin hated everyone because he starved the whole damn country! Why did people starve in Poland? Were the Poles in bed with Stalin in a plot to starve Ukrainians? Then why did they starve themselves? Are they retards?
None of that makes sense!
2. Maybe the terror famine story of a bumper harvest crop that was confiscated by Stalin just to starve Ukrainians is fake?
Which is more likely, one or two?
The whole story of a bumper harvest confiscated by Stalin just to kill Ukrainians has now been proven wrong. 1932 was a famine harvest. It was only 50% that year. The harvest simply collapsed that year. See Mark Tauber’s latest writing where he proves that. See Davies and Wheatcroft’s extensive book which is now the last word on the subject. The truth is that in the journals, this debate ended a while back. Even the worst Russia-haters and Holodomor-mongers like Timothy Snyder and Richard Pipes have now admitted that there was no terror famine in their publications. What they say on TV is another matter.
There was also a long insurgency versus the kulaks which centered in Ukraine. 390,000 people died in the anti-kulak campaign, which was a very vicious war.
In early 1932, Ukrainian kulaks were raiding collective farms up to 20 times a day, murdering the men and raping and then murdering the women and then destroying the crops and killing the livestock. The Ukies were piling their crops in the fields to get rained on or setting them on fire!
The Ukie morons destroyed their own crops and then said, “Duh, whoa we have a famine, dudes! Maybe we shouldn’t have set our own crops on fire!”
The moron kulaks killed half the livestock in the USSR! “Duh, we killed all the farm animals. Now we don’t have any meat to eat!” Fields were plowed with horses back then, and they killed so many horses that this contributed to the famine harvest.
The famine occurred for a variety of reasons. In part it was stupidity on the part of the USSR. They shut down the old system before they were able to get the new one going very well, and this contributed to a bad crop. But most of it was natural. There was a wheat rust epidemic that swept through the entire region from Poland to Kazakhstan. True, Ukies suffered the worst losses, but that was where the epidemic was worst and the harvest collapsed the most.
Most people died of disease, not starvation. The USSR still had rudimentary sanitation at the time, and many people died of cholera. You can often survive this disease, but in their malnourished weakened condition, it proved fatal. A reporter drove through Ukraine during the famine but he saw little out of place. There were long but orderly lines outside some clinics. There were no dead people lying in the streets. All of the Holodomor photos you see of starved people lying in the streets were put out by Ukies. Those are photos from another famine that occurred during the Russian Civil War.
The next year though, 1933, was a bumper harvest so it was just one year. The USSR never had another famine. In the days of the Czar, famines used to sweep through feudal Ukraine on a regular basis. The USSR ended the regular tradition of frequent famines in Russia.
I’ve never seen so much lying in a propaganda campaign in my life. And the entire US media is in on this propaganda campaign to the hilt. There is not even one major TV, radio, newspaper, magazine, or Internet media outlet that is deviating from the script. This is the case in all of the West. Hence the entire media in the West seems to controlled by NATO governments. There’s no freedom of the press in the West – absolutely zero.
We have now seen European countries banning Russian news sites – the only opposition media available in Europe. In the US, Youtube, Amazon, and Twitter and shutting down and banning people with pro-Russian views. So the media of the West is being massively censored by the Western states. Hence, the Western states practice extreme censorship of the media. If you live in the West, you don’t live in a free country!
I don’t have time to go through all the lies and BS pouring out of the US media every day. For now I will just focus on the latest lie, an attack on a Mariupol maternity hospital that never even happened, causing injuries and deaths to people who are not injured and still alive! Pretty amazing!
There was no Russian bombing attack on any maternity hospital to my knowledge. The damage is not consistent with a bombing attack, nor is the damage inside the building consistent with such. The “wounded” are not consistent with wounds in a bombing attack. One of the “wounded” is a model and social influencer. Two months prior, she was not the slightest bit pregnant. Two months later, turns out she’s full term! Wow that baby developed awfully fast! She’s an actress and model hired by the Nazis in this false flag attack.
We have testimony from multiple residents that all staff and patients of all three maternity hospitals in the city were ordered out of the hospitals on February 25. There are newspaper articles from that date saying this. The testimony said that the Nazi Azov Battalion took over the hospitals and turned them into bases. So there have not been women or babies or staff in any of those hospitals for 12 days. Russia says it never bombed the hospital. The damage is consistent with the Nazis setting off explosives outside the hospital. No one was in the hospital at the time.
Two days prior to the fake false flag attack, Russia criticized the nationalist battalions in Mariupol, saying that they had taken over maternity hospitals and kindergartens in the city. The specific hospital was named. This was two days before the fake attack.
Now we have interviews with pregnant women, apparently lying, saying Russians were attacking the hospital with automatic weapons. But there were no pregnant women in the hospital! None!
Wait, first Russia dropped a bomb on the place. Now it turns out Russian soldiers attacked it with automatic weapons. Which one is true? Make up your mind.
In case you think Ukrainians are incapable of this devious false flag crap, keep in mind that the battalion that did this is called the Azov Battalion, and they are Nazis! They have been the ones making all of these provocations and false flag attacks all over Ukraine.
Let’s get this straight now, you guys think Nazis are too kind, fair, and decent to do such a thing? I think you Nazi supporters (and if you support Ukraine, you’re a Nazi supporter) need to think again.
Polar Bear: East of Dniper or Galicia was bandit land in Russian lore? I think you mean West of Dniper. This is fascinating, so I’d like to be 100% sure.
He didn’t say, but I assumed he was talking about the area west of the Dniper. It was in a novel written around 1917 by Bulgakov, and the East was only stuck onto Ukraine by Lenin in 1917, so no way is he talking about the East because that was never Ukraine. It was always just Russia. Those are Bulgakov’s words from his novel.
Also, the soil in the West is low in iodine and iodine deficiency affects the brain, lowering IQ. A lot of the anti-Bandera people say the people to the West of Kiev are retards, and that is due to the low iodine in their food.
Between the Dniper and Kiev is Central Ukraine. It’s in between the Nazi West and the Russian East. There’s a difference between west of the Dniper, which it all is, and west of Kiev, which only part of is. But Central Ukraine is full of thieving oligarchs too. That’s where (((Kolomoisky))) comes from. Central Ukraine is Ukrainian and quite anti-Russian but not as fanatically anti-Russian as the West.
CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: So Time Magazine less than 2 years ago admitted there are neo-Nazis in Ukraine’s east, namely the Azov Battalion. Again, I believe you that there are nah-tsees in dah you-crane but I did not see a Nazi (lol) elsewhere. Seriously, the country is not overrun by the Hitlerjugend.
You just hate right-wingers and see the devil everywhere they gather. Putin is a mass murder who decimated Grozny with impunity. A few Hitler-hailin’ dickheads in Eastern Ukraine aren’t a real threat to anybody but the locals. And considering Putin already controlled Crimea and Donbass, he could have killed the Nazis there. Shelling other cities is not justifiable.
First of all, conservatives in most parts of the world are not really Nazis. However, rightwingers in Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, Croatia, Romania, Hungary, France, Germany, Slovenia, Sweden, Bulgaria, Austria can absolutely be Nazis, thought most rightwingers in the more western of these nations are not Nazis.
In the East it is different, and conservatism in those eastern countries simply tends to be Nazism. Nazism is a phenomenon of White Europeans, and there’s about zero support for it in most other parts of the world, though there are a few Nazis in places like Argentina, the UK, the US, Bolivia, Chile, India, Mongolia, and a few other places.
There aren’t really many Nazis left in the Donbass. Members of Nazi battalions, when captured by the separatists, were slowly beaten and tortured to death over a period of a day or time. Most of the pro-Ukies took off, but all of the rest of them went over to the separatists because the Ukie occupiers pissed so many people off.
Most of the Nazis in Crimea, what few were even there, presumably took off after independence. Keep in mind that when the “little green men” took over Crimea, the entire Ukrainian Army stationed in Crimea immediately surrendered to Russia. However, there is still some opposition to Russia in Crimea because when the Russians started this war, there was even some armed resistance in Crimea!
Ukraine Has a Nazi Problem, to Put It Mildly
It’s hard to say how many Nazis there are as so many “non-Nazis” go along with the Nazis due to fear, peer pressure, propaganda, or other reasons. The 20% of Ukrainians in Western Ukraine east of Kiev are absolutely Nazis, every last one of them. This is the homeland of Ukrainian nationalism.
Up to 33% of Ukrainians have extreme, almost fanatical, anti-Russian views. Though not strictly Nazis, they could be seen as Nazis in a “kill the Russians” sense. Plus they go along with the Nazis.
So 20-33% of Ukrainians are pretty much out and out Nazis or at least Ukrainian nationalist fascists of one type or another, and many of the rest are terrorized into going along with them. That’s not enough to make Ukraine a Nazi country, but it’s enough to make it so it has a severe Nazi problem.
Three Ukrainian Regions – East, Center, and South
Eastern and Southern Ukraine are Russian. This is where the separatists are or at least they are in the East in the Donbass. If they put the entire area east of the Dniper to a plebiscite, I’m pretty sure that they would vote to secede from Ukraine. Only part of this region, the Donbass, is now separate.
The area west of the Dniper and east of Kiev is called Central Ukraine, and it is completely different. It’s not really Nazi but it’s not pro-Russian at all. It’s pro-Ukrainian government. They’re somewhere in the middle of the pro-Russian East and the Nazi West.
But they are not pro-Russian at all, and Russia will have a very hard time occupying this place because the population will be so hostile.
The only place Russia can occupy is the South and the East, and they are having problems with anti-Russian demos right now.
Occupying Nazi Western Ukraine will be almost impossible because the population will be insanely hostile. I don’t know how they will do it. They probably won’t. But it will be a perennial problem. If the East goes independent or strongly pro-Russian, which is probable, and the Center is controlled by a pro-Russian demilitarized, neutral, and at least somewhat denazififed state, as is possible if difficult to carry out, the idea would be for Russia to say the Hell with the Nazi West.
Problem is all the Nazis in the rest of the country will flee there. And lots of advanced weapons are pouring in there, so it’s full of powerful weapons and armed to the teeth. Not to mention the population are already Nazi fanatics for a good 80 years now ever since 1941 and maybe even before from 1932 and the famine. The temptation is to say the Hell with it and let this Nazi state fester.
A new rump Ukraine state will be formed there, and I believe that NATO forces may even move in in large numbers to occupy it. It will then become a new “Ukraine” with the same dynamic in place – endless weapons supplies and NATO training to turn it into a cat’s paw to attack Russia with, although Russia will now have some geographic depth with Novorussia in the east and the pacified state in the center.
An insurgency against the Center and the East is already planned there, as all US factions from “right” to “center” to “left” are in agreement about bogging down Russia in a new Syria or Afghanistan. Call it the Syrianization of Ukraine. So the Ukraine problem of 2014-present will simply move from Ukraine to Western Ukraine. At some point, Russia might have to go into Western Ukraine to clean those Nazis out, and it won’t be pretty.
Hitlery Clinton has already come out in support of Syrianization, as has (((Victoria Nuland))) who pretty much singlehandedly created this whole mess. Her husband is (((Donald Kagan))), one of the craziest, most vicious, and blood-drenched neocons of them all. They both installed (((Yatzeniuk))) as President, a fanatical Russia-hating nationalist and oligarch. So there’s a bit of an (((angle))) here as there is with so many lousy things, but that’s not the whole story, and this is what crazy antisemites miss.
These are just American Jewish neocons. They don’t represent Israel or American Jewry at all. Mostly they are just fanatical US imperialists. They’ve hitched themselves to US imperialism, but almost all US Gentiles are in the same sheep flock.
The Democratic Party and Joe Biden Started This War
(((Nuland))) is a neocon Clintonite.
When Biden came in, he brought back the neocons, many of whom had been thrown out by isolationist Trump. Both parties have a vast neocon faction, almost all of it Gentile, though a number of the leaders are Jewish.
Hence, anti-Russian policy was vastly ramped up. If Trump was still in, this war would not have happened. But the Democrats radically ramped up the aggression against Russia because the Democrats are now the McCarthyite party of Russia-haters, while Republicans are split between a base that is both pro- and anti-Russia, even if Republican politicians are whores with fingers to the wind who have no basic values at all other than “zero sum game” and “win at any cost.” So Biden and the Democratic Party’s foreign policy is worse than the Republicans, and Biden and the Democrats pretty much started this war.
A Recent Historical View of the Ukrainian Nazi Infestation
There are plenty of Nazis in Central Ukraine too, especially after eight years of incessant Nazi propaganda. It’s started to effect people, and even ordinary Ukies are a lot more anti-Russian and pro-Nazi than they were eight years ago. Also a lot of the Russian speakers simply left, especially the ones in the South and East.
It was like this all over the Donbass inside and outside of the separatist regions. Many of these people are coming home now on the backs of advancing Russian troops, and they are quite happy to be home.
The reason for the anti-Russian protests in the South is due to a variety of reasons.
First, many men are veterans of the war in the East.
Second, many Ukies have relatives or neighbors in the military currently fighting the Russians.
Third, eight years of brainwashing works.
Fourth, many people may have turned pro-Ukie and anti-Russian to avoid persecution.
Fifth, most of the Russian speakers took off.
The result is you now have quite a few pro-Ukies in the South, but they are still a minority. The majority are still Russian speakers, but they have been quiet and holed up inside for eight years, and a lot of them left and will presumably return. But there are definitely pro-Ukies in the West and even some in the East.
There Are No Pro-Ukrainians Left in the Donbass
When the operation in the Donbass started, the Ukie troops came in as liberators taking back the separatist zones for Ukraine. About 20% of the population greeted them at the entrances with cheers. So 20% of the population under the separatists were anti-separatist, but the separatists never did much about this.
However, the Ukies conquered a lot of those towns but were never able to control them. The separatists fought an extremely dirty guerrilla war, not wearing uniforms, hiding among the population in yards and houses, jumping fences from house to house, on and on.
The Ukies would be lured into rooms where there were women and children present so the Ukies thought it was OK to come in. Then a hidden separatist would jump out and attack the Ukie soldiers. Obviously this endangered the women and kids too. There were booby-traps and hidden bombs everywhere.
The Ukies eventually decided that there was no way they were going to defeat them because they were too deeply rooted in the population. They also said that after months of brutal occupation, the entire pro-Ukie 20% had gone over to the separatists. The Ukies themselves admitted that they had no support in these towns and everyone was with the enemy. They described the situation as hopeless.
About half of the Donetsk and Lugansk states were controlled by the Ukies after they pushed the separatists out and them. Indeed the separatists were about ready to be defeated when Russia poured in and reversed the losses.
The Nazification of the Supposedly Non-Nazi Sectors of Ukrainian Society
Generals of the supposedly non-Nazi Army have been photographed with the Nazi Azov Battalion.
Four eight years now, members of the supposedly non-Nazi government, intelligentsia, and media have repeatedly made homicidal and genocidal statements along the lines of “kill the Russians” and “exterminate the Russians.” These statements are all documented.
There were five men negotiating for the Ukrainians with the Russians in these recent peace talks. One of the men, one of the most powerful men in the country, wanted to sue for peace and give in to Russian demands. In downtown Ukraine he was pulled out of his car by the Ukrainian SBU Intelligence Agency and executed with a shot to the head for “treason.”
Hackers hacked into the SBU database and found a list of pro-Russian leaders in the Donbass. There was extensive information on each one. It is believed that this is a kill list.
The SBU is supposedly non-Nazi.
They’re all through the main and local governments. A while back, the Vice President, an Assistant Vice President, a member of the National Security Council, the Interior Minister, the Defense Minister, the Head of the Intelligence Agency were all Nazis. All in a supposedly non-Nazi government.
The Azov Battalion are not the only Nazis, and they have Jewish supporters and members. They even have a tiny synagogue in their headquarters for their Jewish members. There are quite a few other Nazi groups. Svoboda, the Right Sector, the Azov, Adair, and Dniper Battalions and C14, a White Supremacist Nazi group that may be led by a Jew.
The Jewish president Zelensky is controlled by the Nazis. Ukraine is run by a combination of Jewish money and Nazi muscle. Zelensky tried to go against the Nazis, but after a year they had a meeting with him and told him that if he didn’t go along with them, they’d assassinate him. Zelensky presently has a very strong relationship with the Azov Battalion and has been photographed with them.
I think the nationalists just use those Jews as democratic window dressing on what is basically a fascist authoritarian state or dictatorship. It helps that they are Jewish as it helps them to deflect charges of antisemitism.
Furthermore, the “non-Nazi” parties are pretty damned Nazi. They passed laws ending Russian as an official language, banning Russian from public and introduced laws forbidding the speaking of Russian in public and forbidding Russian speakers from working for the government. All of this by a supposedly non-Nazi Parliament from supposedly non-Nazi parties.
When the new government came in, the supposedly non-Nazi government outlawed the Communist Party, went around smashing down all the Soviet statues and outlawed the largest party of the Russian speakers, the Party of Regions. Together the two parties made up half the population. So the new “democratic” government immediately outlawed the entire opposition! Before that, there were threats against members of the Party of Regions, and some of them were murdered by the Nazis. The supposedly non-Nazi government looked the other way.
There were murders of Communists. Nazis attacked a Communist labor union, chained 35 of its members to heaters, and set it on fire. This was in Kiev. There was an attempt to kill the leader of the Party of Regions by setting his house on fire. They set his neighbor’s house on fire. He fled to Russia.
There were attacks and threats against all of the major intellectual and political leaders of the Russian speakers. Some were beaten, others imprisoned, some murdered, and all of them have now fled to Russia. The Russian speakers have no intellectual, media, political presence. The supposedly non-Nazi government did nothing to stop any of these attacks.
In Odessa, the Nazis attempted a false flag on members of a Communist labor union who holed themselves up in an a mansion. The Nazis invaded the mansion, murdered some of the resisters and set the rest on fire. They were egged on by a vast crowd of purported non-Nazi Ukrainians. The supposedly non-Nazi government, NATO, and the US all said it never happened and tried to cover it up. The entire supposedly non-Nazi US media went along with it.
There were jokes all over the Ukraine about burning Colorado beetles (Russians are called Colorado beetles due to their flag). The millions of Ukrainians making these jokes were supposedly non-Nazis.
The most popular rallying cry heard at the Maidan was, “Hang the Russians, drown the Poles, stab the Jews!” This was that great “democratic” revolution that Americans love that was actually a violent CIA coup that murdered scores of people to overthrow the pro-Russian government. Maidan was supposedly a non-Nazi revolution, and indeed, though only 8% of the Maidan were Nazis, their cries were very popular with the supposedly non-Nazi crowds. The Nazis have said that without their violence, the Maidan would not have succeeded.
In Mariupol, Nazis beat, tortured, and murdered Russian speakers. Russian speakers were imprisoned. Then the Nazis went to their homes and ordered them out at gunpoint. Then whoever was left took off. Mariupol is supposedly a non-Nazi city.
In parts of the now-liberated Donbass, separatists are finding torture chambers run by the Nazi Aidar Battalion. It was here that many Russian speakers were imprisoned, tortured and murdered. This area was under the control of the supposedly non-Nazi Ukrainian Army
In other areas of the South, the same thing happened. Many Russian-speakers were simply murdered early on by the Nazis, and most of the rest fled. That’s why you are seeing pro-Ukie demonstrations there. These are supposedly non-Nazi cities.
White nationalists, White Supremacists, and neo-Nazi volunteers from France, Germany, Canada, Slovenia, Estonia, and Belarus have been flooding into Ukraine in the last eight years to fight the separatists. They all joined the Nazi nationalist battalions. They went there to fight “Communism” because these retards think “Russians are Communists.” The supposedly non-Nazi government let them in to fight Russians.
Kharkov isn’t even part of the Donbass, but after 2014, Ukrainian nationalists took over this Russian-speaking city. Hundreds of Russian speakers there were tortured and murdered by the Ukrainian SBU intelligence agency in basements and dungeons of that city. Keep in mind that this agency is supposedly non-Nazi.
Countless supposedly non-Nazi parents send their children to Nazi Ukrainian nationalist summer camps where they learn to chant Nazi slogans about killing Russians. There are children’s books in supposedly non-Nazi Ukrainian schools that sing the praises of the OUN, a Ukrainian nationalist WW2 army that killed 200,000 Jews, 40,000 Poles, and countless Russians.
There are statues all over the supposedly non-Nazi Ukraine to the Nazi war heroes of the Ukrainian nationalists. All of the heroes of Ukrainian nationalists were Nazis. Countless supposedly non-Nazi Ukrainians, often members of supposedly non-Nazi nationalist youth groups, pay homage to these heroes at their monuments every year. The supposedly Ukrainian Orthodox Church commemorates a certain Ukrainian nationalist on a certain day of the year. He was a Nazi war criminal.
The chants “Glory to Ukraine” or “Slava Ukraine”, “Glory to the Nation”, “Death to the Enemies” and “Knives for the Moskals (Russians)” are chanted all the time by millions of supposedly non-Nazi Ukrainians.
Supposedly non-Nazi intellectuals have gone on supposedly non-Nazi TV channels and stated that the Donbass was overpopulated and 1.5 million Russians would have to be exterminated. The particular TV station is run by Kolomoisky, the richest man in the country who now lives in Israel. He is Jewish. It was an airplane from his airport that shot down that M17 jet in the false flag to blame Russia. He funds the Nazi nationalist Dniper Battalion, and I’m told that he helps fund all of the Nazi battalions in the country. Yes, that is correct. The richest man in the country, a Jew, funds all of the Nazi nationalist battalions.
Please note that there has been pretty much zero prosecution of the nationalist battalions for all of these crimes.
The Mysterious NATO Snipers Shooting Both Cops and Protestors at Demonstrations
The pro-Russian Ukrainian government was overthrown by bringing in fascists from Lithuania and Georgia (two supposedly non-Nazi countries) as snipers. They were disguised as musicians and carried their sniper rifles in their music cases. They were trained in supposedly non-Nazi Poland by trainers working for supposedly non-Nazi NATO. They were then brought to a large multistory building in the Maidan.
For a day or two, the snipers fired out of that building, targeting both cops and protestors both. There is video of the snipers being hustled out of the country by the new government. You can see them carrying their “musical equipment cases.” Some of them were women.
A videotape has been released that shows some of the Georgian snipers who were hired to shoot at people. They said that they did not know they were supposed to be shooting at both sides and they felt bad about doing so.
There is an audio tape of a German government official talking to the president of Estonia. He is telling that the NATO side is the one with the snipers shooting people in the square. The audio was intercepted and can be heard.
The Ukrainian Parliament conducted an investigation of the Maidan shootings. The investigation revealed that both protestors and cops were killed with bullets from the same guns and that the Berkut police, who were blamed for the sniper attacks, did use these bullets in their guns. This proves that the Berkut did not kill the people at the Maidan. After that, the subject was buried and to this day, Western media blames the Berkut for the shootings.
This is the NATO and US way. Every time you see snipers on rooftops shooting both protestors and police or shooting protestors on both sides, it’s always some sort of fascists, either the US, NATO or local fascists as in Venezuela but they were directed by the CIA.
These US and NATO snipers have fired on both sides and cops and demonstrators so far in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Thailand, Ukraine, Venezuela, and Thailand. In Venezuela and Ukraine, the governments were blamed but the shooters were anti-government fascists in both cases.
In Iraq, the government was blamed but the snipers were US Marines operating on rooftops and out of the US Embassy. The President of Iraq himself reported that this is what US forces did. Trump told him he was going to direct snipers to shoot at the demos unless the President obeyed him, and when he disobeyed, Trump did just that. The US snipers in Iraq shot both protestors and police. The Iraqi government was blamed.
Mysterious snipers recently fired on pro-Hezbollah protestors. Hezbollah was blamed. The shooters were fascist Maronites, probably under the direction of the US. However, this time they were caught and the false flag failed. Nevertheless, Western media continued to blame “Hezbollah snipers.”
Let me remind you of your glory days on WordPress. Does Ukraine not have the right to secede from the USSR? You can counter with does not Donbass and Crimea have the right the to secede from Ukraine? Maybe if that was their intention. But Crimean and Donbassian independence just seam like cover Russian irridentism. Look maybe they do belong to Russia in a common sense way. Again, it doesn’t excuse for bombing Kiev.
Why don’t we just lob a few fucking nukes at Moscow then to stop the war? Perfectly justified IMO. Let’s nuke Xi and Our Dear Leader while we’re at it The ends justify the means up to a point.
Ukraine did secede from the USSR. Done.
Nope. Russia doesn’t want the Donbass.
Crimea was Russian forever. It was never Ukrainian. It got moved from one part of the USSR to another part of the USSR. It didn’t get put in another country. And when Ukraine went independent, immediately Crimea held a referendum and said they wanted not to be part of Ukraine and either wanted to be independent or part of Russia. And the Ukrainian nationalists came in right away and threatened to kill every Russian in Crimea. This is an old problem. Ukraine ignored the poll and Russia didn’t push the matter for 14 years.
If Russia’s irridentist, why didn’t it demand that Crimea go free right away? Why did they ignore the independence poll? Russia wanted to keep Crimea Ukrainian as long as possible because things go smoother that way. In 2104, the US and NATO went in and did a violent coup called Maidan and overthrew a Democratically elected president. And they murdered a whole bunch of people in the process.
The reason for the coup was because the president said he was going to enter an economic alliance with Russia. The reaction of the US to that was a violent, murderous coup and the installation of radical Ukrainian ultranationalist fascists and Nazis. Since 2014, Ukraine has been home to a psychotically anti-Russian government that has baited and attacked Russia every chance it got.
As soon as the NATO Nazis came in, they immediately said they were going throw Russia out of her only warm water port in Sevastopol and turn it into a NATO naval base. Well, Russia can’t lose that port and have it turned over to her enemies. So she went in and grabbed Crimea and “annexed” it, but it’s never been anything but Russian anyway.
A referendum was held and 90% of the population wanted to go to Russia. Fair and square. As you can see, we pretty much baited and forced Russia to annex Crimea, and then we used it as a club to beat them over the head with, so our crocodile tears are garbage. We baited and pushed Russia into annexing Crimea so we could use it to beat them up. They did what we wanted them to. Why are we crying?
There is no irridentism in Donbass. The Donbass people revolted when the murderously anti-Russian regime came in. They overthrew bases and police stations and armed themselves. I was on websites at the time where people were in deep with both Moscow and Donbass people. For a long time, Russia refused to help Donbass. The sites were full of cursing at Russia for not helping. Eventually when the Ukies started killing them, Russia helped them with “the military surplus store” and sent a lot of older out of date equipment to the Donbass.
But Russia was not happy with the successionism from the start, and they said so. People on the sites kept repeating that Russia doesn’t want Donbass to go independent and they think the whole thing has turned into a huge mess. They thought it was too destabilizing. From the very start Russia pushed for Donbass to be part of a federal Ukraine with autonomy.
That’s all Russia ever wanted. The Minsk accords created that federal Ukraine. Ukraine agreed to implement the Minsk accords that they signed and then they refused to honor them for seven years while they shelled the cities of the Donbass, killing many civilians. The US ordered Ukraine not to implement the accords.
There is no independent Ukraine. Ukraine is just a NATO cat’s paw to pummel Russia with. They have no independence. They follow every order the US and NATO gives them. I assume that if a Ukrainian President starts defying the US and NATO, we will probably just have him murdered. That’s what the US typically does in cases like this. So Zelensky obeying orders from the US while we point a gun to his head.
The US and Ukraine angrily rejected federalism (Why? It works great in Switzerland and Spain) because they wanted to start a war in the Donbass with the eventual hope of baiting Russia into attacking so they could lower the hammer on them. At one point, Russia did send in some troops, but they never admitted it. The war ended with a cease fire, and the Russians all went home except for some OMON (Russian military intelligence) people and some advisors.
Nevertheless NATO and Ukraine have been lying and saying it’s been the Russian Army fighting in Donbass all these years.
They held a referendum in the Donbass and 80% of the population voted to go independent. They declared independence. They’ve been badgering the Russians for eight years now to let them join Russia but Russia refuses. Reportedly Russia has plenty of land (biggest country on Earth).
They have way too many problems with the people and land that they have and they don’t want or need anymore land. Also the Donbass is a ruined hellscape and an economic basketcase. Russia would have to spend billions to rebuild it and they don’t want to do that. Even now with the recognized independence, Russia still doesn’t want them to join Russia.
South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Transniestria have been agitating to join Russia for fifteen years ever since they went free. Russia has refused to let any of them join Russia.
How the Hell is Russia irridentist if all these regions keep clamoring to join and Russia keeps telling them to get lost? This idea of Russian irridentism, Russia trying to conquer new land, Russia trying to reform the USSR, is all crap. I’m on sites with people deep in with Kremlin leadership for years now and we never heard one word of this. All we hear is, “Russia doesn’t want to annex any land.”
Putin has dealt with the recreating the USSR canard many times. He has said that the fall of the USSR was a tragedy, but what’s done is done, and it’s time to leave it. He keeps saying we have no interest in recreating the USSR.
With this overwhelming evidence that Russia has no irridentism, does not wish to conquer and annex new land, and does not with to reform the USSR, how can you keep insisting that this is true. Just because the liars in the West keep screaming that this is true doesn’t mean it is. I’ve been studying this forever with an open mind and the answer is clear to me: the nations and media of the West are all lying their fool heads off. Or maybe they actually believe this crap. But if they had decent intelligence services, they’d know it was nonsense.
Why do we have a right to lob nukes at Russia or China. This war has absolutely nothing to do with the US or anyone in the West. What relationship does the US have with Ukraine? Nothing. No treaties, no nothing. Just a bunch of Goddamned Nazis we use as a club to beat Russia with. It’s not our fight. You can’t attack a country that’s not attacking you or a threat to you. We have no right to “go in there and stop any war.” Wars will go on until the warring parties sort it out. You don’t get to go in and attack some country that never did anything to you “to stop a war.” That’s BS.
They have perfect right to invade Kiev and go in there and clean out those Nazis. Putin sees this as 1939 all over again. If Russia could have stopped them in 1939, they should have. He sees it as 1939 now and 1942 at some point in the near future and he’s correct. He wants to nip this in the bud before it gets more out of control and dangerous than it already is.
NATO and Ukraine have been lying and saying it’s been the Russian Army fighting in Donbass all these years. The Ukrainians are lying because they don’t want to admit their own people are fighting against them. The US and many other countries always do this in any civil war. The state never admits that it’s own people are rebelling against it.
It’s always just some outsiders who came in and stirred things up. The Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian, Thai, Filipino, Greek, Turkish, Salvadoran, Peruvian, Brazilian, Chilean, Argentine, Colombian, Nicaraguan, Guatemalan, Honduran, Venezuelan, and Dominican people were never revolting against their leaders. They were fat and happy.
It was all just evil Soviets going in there and starting revolutions. The locals weren’t revolting at all. In the Western Hemisphere, it was always Cubans who were doing the revolting. Later on it was Nicaraguans. And now in Colombia it’s Venezuelans attacking the state. In Asia it was all China and the USSR. The Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai, and Lao people were happy as clams. They weren’t fighting. We were always just fighting Russians and Chinese over there.
Our enemies do this crap too. Syria says all the people fighting against it are foreign fighters. That’s not the case. There are quite a few foreigners over there, but 70% of the armed opposition is Syrian.
The Lebanese people are perfectly happy and they love Israel so much. There’s no such thing as Hezbollah. It’s all just Iranians. Same thing in Yemen. There are no Houthis waging a popular rebellion. It’s all nothing but Iranians. Iraqis love us so much that they ordered us out of the country. Of course we refused to leave and Trump threatened to have the president killed if he pushed the issue. Of course those Iraqis attacking our bases couldn’t possibly be Iraqis because Iraqis love us. It’s all just a bunch of Iranians. Same thing in Syria.
Syrians love the US. We’re over there stealing all their oil and a lot of their wheat and burning what wheat fields we don’t steal. We bomb their bakeries and water tanks. We bomb their factories so they can’t rebuild. We occupy their land against international law. Isn’t all that just wonderful? How could any Syrian be upset by that? They could not of course. So the people attacking our bases in Syria are all just a bunch of Iranians. Boy those Iranians sure get around, don’t they?
As you can see there is a human need for peoples and states to lie every time there’s a civil war and insist that their people are happy as kings. They couldn’t possibly be taking up arms against the wonderful country! It’s always just a bunch of evil foreigners.
The Ukrainians are doing the same thing. They won’t admit that their own people in the Donbass have taken up arms against them. How could that be possible. Top Ukrainian figures have gone on the biggest Ukrainian TV stations and openly called for the extermination of 1.5 million Russians in the Donbass. How could people not love a group that wants to kill 1.5 million of your own people? They couldn’t! So it’s always just these evil Russian foreigners invading their land and killing Ukrainian soldiers.
India won’t admit that Kashmiris are miserable in India and want to go independent. They’re fat and happy. Turns out all the fighting is nothing but Pakistan trying to steal Indian land.
All Ukrainian nationalists are basically Nazis or fascists. I suppose he’s not an actual Nazi himself, but he uses those Nazi groups to stay in power. They are the muscle behind the regime, and everyone has to do what they say. If you go against them, they will overthrow you or put a bullet in your head.
Zelensky ran on a peace platform, but after he got in, he found he could not implement it because the Nazis would not let him. Those Jews there use those Nazi ultranationalists to stay in power and fight the Russians.
More to the point, the Nazism they like is of the “kill the Russians” variety. Nazis hated Russians and killed 27 million of them, remember. All of the heroes of Ukrainian nationalists were Nazi collaborators during WW2, hence all Ukrainian ultranationalists are Nazis by default. They don’t seem to focus much on Jews, as they focus most of their rage towards Russians. On the other hand, the Nazis have been terrorizing the Hungarians and Greeks in Ukraine ever since 2014.
Like all ultranationalists, they hate all non-Ukrainians and want them all to become Ukrainians. It’s not so much that they hate them for being Greeks or Hungarians. It’s more that they hate them for not giving up their culture. They hate Russians not for being Russian ethnically but for speaking Russia, being culturally Russian, and supporting Russia.
A person with a Russian background could simply stop speaking Russian, start speaking Ukrainian, and adopt Ukrainian culture and no one would mind. As you can see, Ukrainian ultranationalism or Nazism is not racial. It’s more of a cultural Nazism. Assimilate and everything’s fine. Keep your language and culture and you need to be killed.
Also there are Ukrainian speakers who are pro-Russian and Russian speakers who are pro-Ukrainian. What language you speak doesn’t always equate to your politics.
Everything was fine in Ukraine until with Maidan we overthrew the democratically elected president Yanukovitch. After that, a radical Ukrainian ultranationalist regime was put in. The main opposition party of the Russian speakers was outlawed, its deputies were murdered, and they tried to kill the leader by setting his house on fire, but they set his neighbor’s on fire instead. He fled to Russia.
They also outlawed the Communist Party (they got 14% in the last election, almost all Russian speakers) and passed a new law mandating three years in prison for defending the USSR. They tore down all of the statues of USSR heroes and put up new statues of their Nazi collaborator heroes instead. They marched with torches and Nazi flags chanting, “Kill the Russians.” The most common chant at the Maidan was, “Hang the Russians, drown the Poles, stab the Jews!”
They introduced laws banning the speaking of Russian in public and forbidding Russian speakers from holding government jobs.
This is why the people in the East rose up. They hate Nazis over there because it reminds them of World War 2 when Ukrainian nationalists rampaged through Ukraine, killing Russians.
Russia is opposed to Gay, Trans, Feminist, and anti-White Identity Politics and the Cultural Left.
They had to do this. Ukraine was an out and out menace, and it had to be shut down. It was a mad, wildly Russian-hating monstrosity on Russia’s border, and Russia can’t have that.
In 1992 with the first independence, Ukrainian nationalists went to Crimea and said, “Crimea will either be Ukrainian or deserted.”
For some reason, the Ukrainian Jews have gotten off light. As long as those Jews support the ultranationalists, they will stay in power. Kolomoisky is a Jew and is one of the richest men in Ukraine. He’s also a thug and a criminal. He has thugs who go in and intimidate businesses into letting him take over their companies. If they don’t obey, he sics his thugs on them. He’s the one who shot down that M17 jet to blame Russia. The Ukrainian government didn’t even know about that.
He runs his own private army almost over there in Dnepropetrovsk. It’s called the Dniper Battalion and yes, they are Nazis. All of the Nazi battalions in Ukraine are armed and trained by this Jewish thug Kolomoisky.
The Jews of Ukraine are very weird. First, they are basically just criminals, like an organized crime gang. Second, they work very closely with out and out Nazis.
You must understand that in WW2, Ukrainian Jews led anti-Jewish pogroms and put Jews in temporary camps.
Ukrainian nationalists cut their hair in the style of Stepan Bandera, the hero of the Ukrainian nationalists. He led the Ukrainian nationalist army ONU in World War 2. They collaborated with Nazis and killed 200,000 Jews and 40,000 Poles. They are vicious Russia-haters. After the war, the US ferried them out, with many of them going to Canada.
The ink was barely dry on the armistice papers with Germany when the OSS was setting up these Ukrainian Nazis to fight the USSR in Ukraine as guerrillas. This war went on for ~10 years. It is the descendants of these Nazis from World War 2 who today make up the Ukrainian ultranationalists.
NATO has long collaborated with Nazis. However, it was probably more of a marriage of convenience than a marriage of ideology. NATO was set up as an anti-Soviet alliance, and Nazis tended to be the best Communist haters and killers of all. NATO set up the Gladio Network or Stay Behind Network made up of fascists and Nazis all over Europe in every NATO country. They were supposed to engage in guerrilla war after the USSR conquered Europe.
But in Italy they mostly did false flag attacks where they pretended to be leftwing guerillas. They set off bombs in train stations and killed hundreds of people. This was called the “Strategy of Tension.” It was all being run by NATO’s intelligence arm. The Gladio Stay Behind network was activated in 2014 in Ukraine. These are the people who carried out the Maidan coup. And the Gladio Stay Behind Network is basically the group that has been in power ever since 2014.
In Mariupol and Nikolavea in Ukraine, since 2014, the Nazis beat and killed Russian speakers and threw them in jail and prison. Those that remained were ordered from their homes at gunpoint. Any remaining left and went into exile.
There are videos on the Net showing Nazi lynch mobs rounding up Russian speakers, tying them up, and beating them. This is going on as I type this. One man is tied to a pole. Nazis shot a Greek in Mariupol last week for speaking Russian. I saw a video where the Nazis tied a Russian speaker to a pole and then set it on fire, burning him to death. The Nazis have been shooting people who have been trying to leave Mariupol.
Whether Ukraine is a Nazi country instead of just a fascist country is another matter, but keep in mind that fascism and National Socialism can unfold in any society, even a Jewish one. A Jewish National Socialism or fascism is absolutely possible. In fact, many European Jews were fascists and proto-fascists in Europe in 1910-1935.
Some German Jews even support the Nazi Party. In 1935, some German cities had Nazi Friendship groups made up of Jews who supported the regime. Don’t ask me how that makes sense. It was only when the Nazis went anti-Semitic that these Jewish fascists abandoned them. The Jewish fascists were quite OK with fascism but not with an anti-Semitic fascism. The Zionists maintained an alliance with the Nazis through the 1930’s on the cynical basis that the more Jews in Germany were persecuted, the more they would flee to Palestine.
In my opinion, Israel is a fascist Jewish country full of fascist Jews. Fascists need not be anti-Semites! And logically, fascist Israel has made alliance with rightwing fascist regimes all over the world, including Hungary and Philippines. And many young Israelis went to the Maidan to fight with the Ukrainian fascists, mostly because a lot of Jews hate Russia.
On the other hand, Israel is sitting out this war. Many Israelis don’t like Ukrainians and say Ukrainians are Nazis or anti-Semites as they recall the stories of what happened to their relatives and ancestors there during World War 2.
Yet World Jewry has had it in for Russia ever since the birth of Israel. Previously, quite a few Jews had been sympathetic to the USSR, though this was probably not a majority. Certainly they supported the USSR against Nazi Germany. However, with the birth of Israel, the US supported Israel and the USSR supported the Arabs, and World Jewry went over to the West.
Then there was the “Soviet Jews” “let my people go” bullshit, a cynical and totally dishonest campaign started by Western, mostly American, Jews.
First of all, no one was allowed to leave the USSR, not just Jews. The Western Jews dishonestly complained that the USSR after Stalin was anti-Semitic.
Yes, there was the Doctor’s Plot under Stalin, and a group of Jewish doctors may indeed have poisoned Stalin.
After Israel was founded, a number of Soviet Jews supported Western-supported Israel. Stalin saw them as traitors and he executed a number of them in the early 1950’s. I don’t think it was anti-Semitic. People complained to Stalin about killing Jews and he said, “You do not understand! They are all Zionists!” Stalin was married a few times and at least one of his wives was Jewish.
As a result of these executions of Soviet Jews, it is thought that the Jewish physicians executed the Doctor’s Plot. It didn’t much matter as Khrushchev hated Stalin and was more than happy to have him out of the way. Stalin’s coffin was carried across the USSR by train when he died, and massive crowds came out in every stop along the way, even all the way out in Siberia. People fell to the ground and cried. Stain was worshiped like a God.
Afterwards, the USSR got involved in some poorly motivated campaigns that had anti-Semitic overtones. One was the campaign against “Ruthless Cosmopolitanism.” If you know about the dynamics of anti-Semitism and the wandering Jewish internationalist anti-nationalist motif, you can see how toxic this was. The campaign claimed to be against “Zionists,” but the use of the rootless cosmopolitan motif was unfortunate.
From then on, Western Jews complained about horrible anti-Semitic persecution in the USSR. Except there was none. A professor at a major university during this period was interviewed. He said out of 200 professors in his large department, maybe 2-3 of them had no Jewish ancestry. Some persecution! They were persecuted all the way to fame and glory and the bank! He laughed when people mentioned that Western Jews thought Soviet Jews were persecuted.
The Jewish complaint against Russia goes way back, as there was of course a lot of anti-Semitism for centuries in the Russian Empire, where the Jews were restricted at one time to the Pale of Settlement. The Pale is now the equivalent of Western Ukraine, which probably has the largest concentration of Nazis in the world! The Cossacks used to lead pogroms against Jews.
It’s said that the Czars were not even particularly anti-Semitic on a personal basis. Instead they just cynically scapegoated Jews whenever the serfs and peasants rose up against the feudal landlords and the feudal royalty. The Czars saw the revolutionary rage of the serfs and misdirected it towards the Jews. “No, don’t kill us feudal lords and royals. We aren’t the problem. All of your problems are those Jews over there!”
The fact that many Jews worked as tax collectors for feudal lords meant that the only face of feudal brutality that the serfs ever saw were Jewish tax collectors, why by the way where quite vicious about how they loaned money to the peasants. They loaned money to the peasants on usurious terms and when peasants couldn’t pay, they would confiscate their lands. Also, the Jews sold booze to the peasants. The peasants ended up drinking up all their profits and were then unable to pay their loans. It was all pretty low-down and sleazy.
Russian Jews and probably Ukrainian Jews too are some of the worst Jews out there. A lot of them are just criminals. The “Russian” Mafia was 1/3 Jewish. Jews are 3% of the population. And due to the long infighting between Jews and Russians, there is a lot of bad blood. Russian Jews probably hate Gentiles more than any other Jews. Russian Jews make bloody Marys out of vodka and say they are drinking the blood of Russian Gentiles!
For their part, Russian Gentiles have been guilty of some horrendous anti-Semitism, and sadly to this day, there is a lot of anti-Semitism in Russia. On the other hand, it’s not official state policy, and Putin has an excellent relationship with the Russian Jewish community and Israel.
Anyway, the long and bitter history of Jews and Russians has led many Western Jews who often have ancestry from the Pale to be Russia-haters. That they have not extended the same courtesy of hatred to Ukraine too is odd, but it’s probably just Realpolitik, as Western Jews are deeply tied into US and Western imperialism.
Western countries are not so much “Jewish” countries as they are simply capitalist-imperialist countries. This is a mistake that many anti-Semites make. They look around at Western imperialism and see Jewish faces and think that imperialism is Jewish. Of course it’s not. It’s just capitalist imperialism and it’s no more Jewish than it is Gentile. Capitalists don’t have much religion anyway. Read Marx, “On the Jewish Question.” The only religion of capitalists is the worship of money.
Similarly, ant-Semites look around at Western capitalists and see Jewish faces and conclude that the problem is not capitalism but Jews. But Gentile capitalists don’t act any better than the Jewish ones; in fact, they act worse. Anti-Semites say get rid of the Jews and capitalism will be fine and dandy. This is folly. Actually it will probably be worse, as Jewish capitalists and the Jewish rich tend to be much more progressive than Gentile capitalists and the Gentile rich. I’d rather be ruled by rich Jews than rich Gentiles.
The above is what we mean when we say that a type of anti-Semitism is “the socialism of fools.”
Under Lenin and Stalin, the USSR was probably the most pro-Jewish country on Earth. Israel Shamir said the USSR as an “anti-anti-Semitic” country. But this is also misleading as in the USSR, no one really talked about ethnicity. You were not supposed to talk about it. And Soviet Jews may not have seen themselves as all that Jewish.
Trotsky was Jewish, but he refused to identify as a Jew. He was asked what his nationality was and he said “working class.” So the fact that there were many Jews in this or that Soviet enterprise is of little consequence. As the USSR was committed to opposing anti-Semitism and overthrew the anti-Semitic Czar and led war on the White anti-Semites in the Civil War, of course Soviet Jews warmed to the USSR. But so did tens of millions of non-Jewish workers and peasants.
Jews talk about how synagogues were destroyed, but the Soviets destroyed churches and mosques too. They hated all religions. Lenin put in a law mandating the death penalty for anti-Semitism.
The Bolshevik Revolution was not really a Jewish revolution. There were only a few Bolshevkis. Yes, there were a number of Jews, but there were even more Latvians! Furthermore, most Russian Jews did not support the Bolsheviks. Only a few did. In the election of 1917, 70% of Russian Jews voted for the Zionist Party, not the Bolsheviks. They were more tribal than Communist, as usual. They say that maybe one Jew in ten is a radical, but maybe five out of ten radicals are Jews. People see that and think “Jews are Communists” while forgetting that 90% of them are not radicals at all.
Judeo-Bolshevism is a particularly vicious form of anti-Semitism, as this was the ideology behind the Holocaust. Recall the order in which Hitler sent people to Dachau. First were Communists. Next in line were socialists. Third were labor unions. Fourth in line were Jews! Fourth in line! The Nazis were more anti-Communist than anti-Jewish, but as they saw them as one and the same, it was of little matter.
Jews would have you believe that they only banned Jews from leaving the USSR because most Jews can’t envision a world outside of their own people and perspective. It’s like the rest of the world is somehow not even there. Some say that Jews think non-Jews as animals. This is true of the Orthodox, but most Western Jews are not Orthodox.
Simone Weil, a French Jew convert to Christianity, described it in a better way. She said that Jews saw the world like a spotlight on a stage in a play. You know how in a play when the stage is dark, and suddenly a spotlight appears and there is one actor standing there? This is how Jews see the world. There they are, under that spotlight. Everyone else is in the dark. It’s not so much that they hate non-Jews (though the Orthodox do). It’s is more like non-Jews are not even there. They don’t even think about them.
Manuel Rodriguez: Back to politics. What is going on in Bolivia is worrying me. We have fascist squads lynching “undesirables” like peasants. We also see that there have been placed barricades with rubbish and tires that block vehicle mobilization, causing people to be fed up and remove the barricades. You know what this all reminds me? The guarimbas of 2014 in Venezuela and Nicaragua. I can see where this is going.
Separate: There is an tendency that is pretty worrying going on at least in Latin America.
The people are tired of the structural inequalities from the neoliberal policies of the right, causing them to lose in elections whenever they appear as they are, and the people are conscious enough.
The mutation consisted on swapping in the public’s mind the Traditional Right image with Center-Right, which seems like a more popular alternative. The complementary tactic is for thee Center-Right to dress up as the Center-Left, which in reality are already prepared sell-outs whose main purpose is try to divert votes from the Left to help the Right win.
The media did their thing, which was to help Center-Left Boric would win over the Leftist Jadue. The whole purpose of Center-Left Yaku Pérez’ candidacy was to make the Leftist Andrés Arauz lose.
That strategy seems to be being recently changing. They are changing the Center-Right for populist Trump-style fascist Far Right candidates. The most worrying thing is that they are getting a lot of support from the population. Bolsonaro is an classic example. Jose Antonio Kast is a more recent example. It seems that Vamos in Argentina is going to win in the parliament.
I would like to point out that the election in Ecuador was profoundly unfair. First of all, the main opposition party kept getting banned, and its leaders all have warrants out for their arrest on fake charges. This “lawfare” is similar to what was done in Brazil. By the way, the FBI greatly assisted the Brazilian fascists in the lawfare against the Left down there. The US is also engaging in lawfare against Venezuela.
Vamos are Argentine fascists?
Obviously Bolsonaro is a fascist, and Kast is clearly a Pinochet-style Chilean fascist.
Why are people voting fascist? I don’t get it. Although Chile and Argentine both have deep fascist blocs in each country, in my opinion mostly because those are majority-White countries. Brazil is also a majority-White country, which may be why they are going fascist too.
In Latin America nowadays, where you lack a White majority, fascism is hard to install because Latin non-Whites hate fascism. They’ve had quite enough of it. However, they do support it in Colombia. On the other hand, Colombia is also a fairly White country. Fascist roots in Colombia go back to Independence. The country simply has developed a culture of popular fascism for whatever reason. Turkey is very similar. The people get no benefit for voting fascist, but they keep doing it anyway.
There are fascist governments in non-White Haiti, Honduras, and Paraguay, but all of those are dictatorships. The Right seized power with fascist coups – armed in Haiti and Honduras and legislative in Paraguay – and they have ruled by dictatorship ever since.
In the Americas, Whiteness is associated with rightwing authoritarianism and fascism. In Europe this is not the case, but Whites are a huge majority over there. It appears that Whites go fascist when they are in the minority, but Argentina and Chile are majority-White, so I don’t get it.
Really any population descended from the Catholic Spaniards divides into the typical Far Right-Far versus Left Collectivist pattern. This pattern is also seen in Greece, Italy, Portugal, Turkey, and Lebanon, all Mediterranean countries. This is also seen now somewhat in France. Spain, France, and Italy are Catholic, Greece is Orthodox, Turkey is Muslim, and Lebanon is mostly Catholic and Muslim. Mediterranean countries are collectivist, so politics tends to be collectivist. Islam, Catholicism, and Orthodox Christianity are collectivist religions.
Left collectivism is Communism and socialism, while Right collectivism is fascism.
The Catholic East European fascism in Poland and Hungary is different and has a Catholic socially conservative and anti-Communist tint. Liberation theology never took hold in Eastern Europe except in Czechia, where there is a long tradition of “Catholic Communism.”
In Ukraine, the Baltics, and Belarus, the fascism is simply Nazism, pure and simple. Ukraine and Belarus are Orthodox, and the Baltics are Catholic (Lithuania) and Protestant (Latvia and Estonia). The Nazism here stems from World War and the independence movements in these countries making alliances with the Nazi occupiers who promised them independence. The Communists in turn were seen as anti-nationalists who thwarted these nations independence dreams. See below for more on that.
In Orthodox Georgia and Russia, fascism nationalist – ethnic nationalist in Georgia or simply nationalist or “Russian Empire nationalist” in Russia.
Protestant Northern Europe is more individualistic. The Right there is just about dead except in the UK and the Baltics. The Right in the UK is a pale copy of US politics. See below for the anti-Communist roots of the Right in the Baltics.
The Right in the northern individualist parts of Europe is mostly anti-Muslim. It’s conservatism is toned down like all politics in Northern Europe is toned down, so it’s not really fascist, instead a type of Woke Anti-Islam. Otherwise they are very left on social issues. One of their leaders in the Netherlands was a gay man. And they support a more socialist economics, but this is the case for both the Right and Left in most of Europe proper other than the Baltics.
The Economic Right is only popular in the UK, where the political economics mirrors the US, and in Czechia, the Baltics, Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia. In all of these places except the UK, it is an anti-Communist reaction where many people are angry about living under Communism in the past, so they have gone to extreme Right economics as an overreaction.
In Estonia and Latvia, support for the economic Right has been disastrous and has almost destroyed both countries. The Economic Right has little power in Russia and Belarus, with only 10-20% support. It is in power in Ukraine but only because Ukraine has outlawed the parties of half the population, the Russian-speakers. In the Baltics and Ukraine, the anger towards Communism is because the Communists stifled independence movements, though it was Communists who set them free. Anti-Communism is also part of Hungarian and Polish fascism. Anti-Communism in both countries often had an odd socialist tinge.
Did you notice that as soon as Victoria Nuland showed up in Beirut, snipers on rooftops appeared and started shooting at Hezbollah and Amal people? There were no “clashes” in Beirut, but the entire Western media is lying to you about that. There were demonstrations by Hezbollah and Amal supporters in Beirut over a judge assigned to investigate something that never even happened in the first place – a stash of fertilizer blew up in the Beirut harbor. But everyone in Lebanon and even Iran has gone along with the lie that this is what happened because it’s better for everyone that way.
What really happened was the Jews dropped a nuclear bomb on Beirut and then set up a vast lie about a how a fertilizer stash blew up. The whole world officially went along with it. Not one nation dared to tell the truth about what happened. This is what the Malay Prime Minister Malathir meant when he said, “The Jews (Israel) control the world by proxy.” See anyone calling them on dropping that bomb? See anyone ever going against the ridiculous story that was put out? Of course not. Well, that’s what happens when you have the world damn world in the palm of your hand and everyone is either owned by you or afraid of you.
The Lebanese Forces are a Christian Phalangist movement whose members formed a proxy army allied with Israel when the Jews occupied Southern Lebanon. Their ideological mentor loved Hitler and had photographs of him in his high school locker. The current leader is a former general named Gaega. They are strongly pro-US and in my opinion they are more responsible than anyone else for bringing fascism to Lebanon.
About half of the Lebanese Christians are out and out Christian fascists. They have extreme hate for Muslims and especially for Iran, Hezbollah, and more than anything else, the Palestinians. These are the people who murdered 3,500 people in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in 1982 while Ariel Sharon, head of the Jewish Army, watched with binoculars from a nearby building to make sure resistance to the killers didn’t get out of hand.
They are funded by Saudi Arabia due to the fact that they both hate the Shia and Iran. The Lebanese Forces put snipers on rooftops and fired on the above Hezbollah and Amal demonstrators, killing 6 and wounding 60 more. After this, Hezbollah and Amal militias arrived on the scene and started shooting back. Somehow this gets called “clashes.” Not one Western media report mentioned the Lebanese Forces fascists.
Not even one. That is because the entire Western media is in bed with fascist elements around the world in Ukraine, Lebanon, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Israel, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Peru, El Salvador, and Haiti. Mostly this is due to economic support for fascist elites and a democratic left. In a few places like Ukraine and Lebanon it is down to US geopolitical war against Iran and Russia which we have dragged our European slaves into.
On the other hand, arguably fascist states in Eastern Europe in Hungary and Poland are savagely attacked for not going along with the Western woke project.
If you notice, the snipers started shooting as soon as (((Victoria Nuland))) showed up. Mysterious snipers have a tendency to start shooting from roofs everywhere this walking malignancy shows up. Based on that, I think the US and maybe Israel had a hand in these snipers. Mostly I blame the Saudis. I’d say it was a US-Saudi plot to start a civil war in Lebanon with possibly input from Israel.
The US, the Saudis, and mysterious fascist snipers shooting at Shia Muslims to overthrow a pro-Hezbollah/Iran and anti-Israel government.
Remember in Ukraine where mysterious snipers appeared when (((Victoria Nuland))) showed up and shot both the pro-Russian Berkut police and anti-Russian pro-Nazi protesters? That was a pure NATO operation, 100% of the way. The snipers were Lithuanians and Georgians and they were trained at a NATO base in Poland. The Georgians have been recorded as admitting that they sniped on both sides. Interviews with them can be found on Youtube.
The Lithuanians were holed up in a high tower and disguised as classical musicians. Some were female. They were photographed leaving Ukraine after the attacks with their guns in their instrument cases. The Ukrainian pro-Russian police were blamed but all of the bullets came from guns that they did not have as per an investigation by a commission of the Ukrainian Nazi government.
NATO, the CIA, the EU, and mysterious fascist snipers shooting both sides to install a fascist government and overthrow a pro-Russian one.
Mysterious NATO Jihadist Snipers Shooting Both Sides in Syria
Recall that in the Syrian Civil War, the war started with Saudi jihadist gunmen smuggled in with weapons stored in mosques who opened fire on both Syrian police, who were unarmed, and demonstrators. Reports indicate that NATO was deeply involved in this Saudi operation, as NATO helped them smuggle the weapons and vehicles across the border.
The Syrian police were blamed, but they had no guns. This was the demo that started the Syrian Civil War. So the Syrian conflict was violent from the very start. Within three weeks of the demos, there were already armed attacks on the Syrian Army. The scene continued for months with mysterious snipers on roofs targeting both police and protesters in cities in Syria.
Once again, NATO, the US, the CIA, and mysterious jihadist snipers shooting both sides to get rid of a Shia pro-Iranian and anti-Israel government.
Mysterious (NATO?) Snipers Shooting Both Sides in Egypt
During the Egyptian Revolution, snipers appeared on roofs attacking both police and protesters. There were rumors of NATO involvement here. Apparently the objective here was to get rid of the Mubarak government, which had become a thorn in the side of the US.
NATO and mysterious snipers shooting both sides.
Mysterious CIA and Fascist Snipers Shooting Police and Protesters in Venezuela
During the coup against Chavez in 2002, rightwing fascist snipers on bridges attacked both protestors and police. Venezuelan police were blamed. NATO and the EU have long supported the armed fascist opposition in Venezuela.
The CIA and fascist snipers shooting cops and protestors to overthrow a Left government.
Mysterious (NATO?) Snipers Shooting Police and Protesters on Both Sides in Thailand
During the Thai civil unrest, mysterious snipers appeared on rooftops and shot both police and protestors. NATO was once again blamed. I’m not sure what the rationale here was, but the West was supporting one of the sides, either the red shirts or the yellow shirts, I have no idea.
It looks like this “mysterious snipers on roofs often shooting both sides, including police and protesters” thing is a CIA/NATO thing linked to US Deep State operations all over the globe. It looks like the Saudis are also involved, as are European fascist states like Georgia, the Baltics, and Poland. The goal is unclear but in most cases it is to start civil wars, increase unrest, and many cases, to overthrow regimes the US does not like.
Wherever Ms. (((Nuland))) goes, snipers on rooftops mysteriously appear, and they just so happen to promote US objectives. The objective in Lebanon was to drag Hezbollah into a civil war. The Western media are already lying like snakes about this, saying that the fighting was the result of “clashes” without laying blame on the US and Israel-supported Christian fascist Lebanese Forces who started it.
Notice all those Malaysian jets that kept going down? After he made that statement, very weird things started happening to Malaysian jets. Remember the jet that went on auto-control, turned around, and ended up in the middle of the Indian Ocean? Remember the Malaysian jet, the M-17, that the Ukrainian oligarchs shot down as a false flag to pin it on Russia and pro-Russian militias? Ever since he talked shit about the Jews, his planes keep crashing and being shot down over and over under very fishy circumstances.
I don’t think it’s the Jews who are doing it. It’s the West, and the West is in bed with the Jews or Israel more properly.
Same thing, reformatting and reposting some old posts. Hope you enjoy.
I don’t talk about it much on here, but I had a Yahoo group with over 1,200 members to fight scammers out of Nigeria and West Africa. We focused on the love scammers. These are people, often males or gangs of males, who use fake pictures of men or women, often stolen from porn or model sites, to engage in fake Internet romances with Westerners, the purpose of which is to get money out of them. In many cases, the scam can go on for years or until all of the money is drained.
Nigeria is Ground Zero for romance scamming, and Ghana is second. Many Ghanaian scammers are Nigerians. It’s also spread to Benin. These are the same scumbags who started off with the famous 419 scams and now are branching out.
They are now into romance scams, fake renter scams, fake buyer scams, fake auction buyer scams, and fake seller scams (especially beetles from the Cameroon).
The fake renter scam works something like the guy is going to rent your place but somehow needs money fronted to him. He never shows up for the room, and you lose the money.
Fake buyer scams involve the use of stolen credit cards to buy stuff in the West and have it shipped to West Africa. Merchants report that out of every 10,000 credit card requests from West Africa, not even one will be legit. The culture of lying, stealing, and general scumminess is so pervasive in West Africa that most credit card companies have banned the whole area from getting any cards. Fake buyer scams also involve overpayment schemes.
They write you a $10,000 check.
But the item is only worth $4,000.
The check is no good. You deposit it and send the $4,000 back to the guy Western Union.
3 weeks later the check goes bad and you lose $4,000.
Similar schemes involving expertly forged money orders, especially US postal money orders, are common. You cash the money order, keep 20% for yourself, and send the rest WU to West Africa.
In 3 weeks it goes bad, and now you owe $5,000 or whatever.
And the banks do want to get paid. Banks will often just cash any shitty check for you without even checking to see if it’s any good. They have actually fought legislation to require them to figure out if the check is any good before they cash it. This would be time-consuming and harm their capitalist bottom line.
Auction buyer scams are similar to overpayment scams. I believe that they also set up fake seller schemes. You send the money and the stuff never shows up.
The beetle scams were interesting. There are actually lots of guys who are so weird that they actually collect beetles. They pin them to boards and whatnot. I guess it’s more honorable than politics or pitching prime loans. Anyway, Cameroon has an incredible amount of beetles, including some of the hugest and rarest beetles on Earth. The West Africans quickly infiltrated the beetle lists on the Net and offered to sell these rare beetles. Lots of folks shelled out $100’s for them, and of course they never showed up.
The West Africans have now fanned out all over the world and operate out of many places, doing their scams. The Nigerians are notorious and hated all over Africa by their fellow Blacks for being a nation of liars, thieves, crooks, and all around scumbuckets. There are now expat Nigerian gangs in Libya, Egypt, Spain, Netherlands, the UK, Switzerland, etc.
Nigerians have swarmed in the Balearic Islands of Spain, where if you go into the cafes, it’s all Nigerians, and probably 90%+ of them are engaging in Internet crime. They are in the Gulf States, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Singapore, and now China. Everywhere they go, the Nigerians are head over heels in crime, usually confidence games and cons.
In Nigeria itself, in many of the cafes, many to all of the people in there are criminals sitting there all day and nite trying to rip off Westerners. One of our informants saw a famous local TV newscaster who had lost his job in the cafe trying to steal from Americans.
There is now a tremendous amount of romance scamming coming out of the Philippines. They scam in the open, use their real faces and real names, and shamelessly rip off every American guy they can find. These are usually young Filipinas promising love or marriage to American males. The law enforcement system in the Philippines is terminally broken, and LE does not even bother to arrest or prosecute the scammers. Philippines is starting to seem like as much of a failed state as an African nation.
There is also a lot of Internet crime coming out of Russia, including romance scamming. The romance scammers are the Russian Mafia operating out of Mari-El Republic. Dating sites are saturated with fake Russian chicks promising to marry you. They hire college students, male and female, to write letters to the Western male suckers and draw them in. Female coeds man the phones 24-7. When you call up your Russian lover girl, Natasha answers the phone and pretends to be whoever she needs to be. End of the scam is she needs airfare to come marry you. You fork it over and she never shows.
The Russians to their credit have busted some of the scammers. There have been several arrest roll-ups, and hundreds of crooks have been arrested, but the scamming goes on. With the return of capitalism, Russia has turned into one of the world’s most horrible epicenters of Organized Crime, Internet Crime, scams, and ripoffs.
There are also many scams, including romance, rental, and auction scams, coming out of Eastern Europe. The return of capitalism has also turned much of this area into crime-flooded pestholes, and Organized Crime practically runs the show in many places. Little is known about these criminals, but the auction scams are mostly run by “Romanians.” Investigation revealed that all or nearly all of these “Romanians” were actually Gypsies, possibly the most criminal ethnic group on the planet.
Transformer: I saw this on Facebook with a discussion about Communism and this is a statement from a Libertarian:
The Marxist delusion of no government always leads to absolute tyranny. The anarcho-communists sweep away tolerably governments and pave the way for the Stalins, Maos, Pol Pots, Castros, Mugabes, Chavezes, etc. It’s not that they justify Stalinism, but that they justify measures that always result in Stalinism, and they still don’t have a clue as to why that keeps happening.
I disagree with his statement that the governments before these revolutions were tolerable.
The CIA supported Pol Pot.
Yes, the US supported Pol Pot the whole time they were in and for many years afterwards as guerrillas.
You are certainly free as a liberal to Leftist to oppose Marxism. A lot of people on the Left, especially liberals, are against Marxist dictatorships. There’s a good argument against them. They’re not exactly democratic.
Chavez was not a dictator at all. Venezuela under Chavez was one of the most democratic countries on Earth. Mugabe wasn’t really a dictator. The opposition always ran in every election, and Mugabe always got the most votes not counting fraud. Same thing in Russia. Putin always gets the most votes whether he steals a few or not. Same thing in Belarus. The opposition runs every time and Lukashenko always gets 75-80% of the actual counted votes. There was no fraud in the last election.
There’s never been any serious electoral fraud in Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Haiti, Iran, Syria, or Peru or most places the US has alleged that massive electoral fraud allowed the Left to win. I can’t recall the last time the Left anywhere on Earth had to steal an election to win. It’s usually the Right who does that.
Anarcoms have never completed a successful revolution. The no government thing is supposed to be way off in the future and it’s never happened anywhere. The “Stalinism” is just the dictatorship of the proletariat. It’s part of Marxist theory. It’s not an aberration or anything. Look at Honduras, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Zimbabwe, Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, Bolivia, Guyana, Peru, Mexico, Italy, Ecuador, Brazil, Chile, Dominican Republic, East Timor, Iran, etc.
There’s no peaceful way to put the Left in power. Anytime a Left government comes in, there’s this nonstop war to overthrow it, usually culminating in a rightwing fascist coup. They always ruin the economy, first and foremost. This is why orthodox Marxists regard the peaceful road to socialism as either a sick joke or a great idea that is not possible in the real world. Lenin called advocates of the peaceful road to socialism “parliamentary cretins.”
What’s odd is that imperialism went along with land reforms in a lot of other places such as Europe and the Middle East. All of the Middle East has done a land reform.
That was one thing the wave of Arab nationalist leaders who came to power in 1950-1970 did right away, including the Baath in Iraq and Syria, Yemen, Nasser in Egypt, the FLN in Algeria, Tunisia, and Qaddafi in Libya.
I believe there was some type of land reform done in Palestine too. If you read Ghassan Kanafani, the Palestinian Leftist, in the 1930’s, he talked about how terribly exploited the Arab fellahin or peasants were in Palestine.
If you went to Yemen in the 1960’s, there was a portrait of Nasser in every house.
I’m not sure if a land reform was ever done in Morocco. It’s been ruled by a fairly rightwing king for a long time.
A land reform was probably done in Lebanon, but I don’t have details. Likewise with Jordan.
Nothing grows in the Gulf anyway, so there’s no need for a reform.
I’m not sure about Sudan or Mauritania, but I doubt much grows in Mauritania except date palms.
In all of these places, land reform was a very easy sell for whatever reason, probably because neoliberal capitalism seems to be antithetical to Islam itself. The feudal lords of the former Ottoman Empire had tried to justify feudalism on the basis that in the Koran it says something like, “Some are rich and some are poor, and this is a natural thing” but that never went over too well.
The idea that in an Islamic country, the rich Muslims were viciously exploit the poor Muslims is nearly haram on its face. You just can’t do that. All Muslims are part of the ummah. All the Muslim men are your brothers and all the Muslim women are your sisters. Also individualism never made it to any part of the Muslim World other than the Hindu variety in Pakistan and Bangladesh, but that’s not really the same radical individualism that we have in the West. It’s just an ancient caste based system.
The first thing the Communists did in Eastern Europe was to do a land reform. You will never hear it here in the West, but until 1960, the Communist regimes in the East were very popular with industrial workers and also with the peasants.
In most of the world, peasants and rural dwellers are leftwingers. This is even the case in Western Europe in France.
The US is odd in that it’s farmers are so reactionary. That goes against the usual trend.
Yes, farmers are said to be conservatives, but that usually just means social conservatism. In most of the world, peasants are literally Alt Left: left on economics and right on social and cultural issues.
A land reform was definitely done in Iran.
Obviously one was done in the USSR, and the large landowners have not yet consolidated themselves in the former USSR, mostly because everybody hates them. Large landowners have taken over some of the state farms in Russia, but for whatever reason, they are not very productive. In fact, many of the state farms are still in existence. I am not sure what sort of arrangement they have now.
50% of the food in the Russia comes from small farms, typically grown on dachas. Dachas were vacation homes that were given to all Soviet workers. They were also given a bit of land, enough to grow some crops on. After 1991, all workers were allowed to keep their dachas and small plots. This was a great idea because most of the produce in Russia is coming right off of these farms.
After World War 2, the US supported land reforms in some places as a way of heading off a Communist threat. This is one great thing about the Communists. So many great steps of social progress were only done out of fear or terror that if these were not done, the Communists would take over. Now that that threat is gone, one wonders what motivation the oligarchs have to give up anything.
In particular, land reforms were done in Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. They went over very easily. And in fact, the subsequent economic growth occurred right on the back of these reforms. There is a good argument that you can never develop a proper economy without first doing a land reform.
First of all, you need to get rid of the problem of rural poverty.
Second of all, you need to feed your own people. Large landowners in these countries typically grow food for export or simply fallow the land and keep it as an income base or a source of wealth.
When crops are grown for export, there is a problem in that the nation does not grow enough food to feed its people. This is a problem in Cuba and Venezuela right now, and it should not be. These are very fertile countries and there is no need to import food, but they have gotten hooked on some sort of “crack” of importing their food for whatever reason, possibly because most of their farmland was being used to grow crops for export.
When a nation can feed itself, this means it can feed its urban workers. This is extremely important and it is part of the reason that Stalin went at such breakneck speed in his collectivization. He had to feed his urban workers so he could industrialize because even back then, he was looking into the future and seeing that he was going to have to fight Hitler.
I’m not quite sure why, but no country seems to be able to properly industrialize and develop as long as the problem of rural poverty exists.
And once you are feeding your own people, you have solved a lot of other problems. Money that would be wasted importing inferior food from the West, especially the US, can now be spent on actual development of a national economy. The elimination of rural poverty gets rid of a constant revolutionary bur in the side of the state.
The US has always opposed land reform in Latin America because large US corporations are usually involved in growing foods for export down there. See Dole Pineapple in Guatemala. We want all of their agricultural land to go for export crops so US corporations can grow those crops or make money importing them. And we do not want them to grow their own food. That way there won’t be so much land for export crops which we need to make money off of.
Also, we want them to spend all of their food money importing lousy processed food from the US. So we make money on food both ways – importing food from crops grown for export to the US and in exporting processed food to the Latin America. This processed food is not very good for you and it is implicated in a lot of health problems in these places.
This is why the US opposes most efforts at land reform in the Americas.
An exception was made in El Salvador. After 200,000 people died, the US and the Salvadoran oligarchs were forced to the negotiating table and a land reform was one of the first things they pushed. I recall a piece written soon afterwards where the reporter went out to the rural areas and interviewed recipients of the land reform. They basically said, “Well, at least we can eat now. It wasn’t like that before.”
In semi-feudal countries, there is debt bondage whereby large landowners rent out their land to sharecroppers or peasants who never seem to get out of debt. This is a very primitive form of development.
The Philippines is notable that there has never been a land reform. And of course they have a vicious Communist insurgency.
Nor has there been one in Colombia, Guatemala, Haiti, Paraguay, Honduras, or Argentina. The first five countries are horribly screwed up. Colombia and Paraguay have active armed leftwing guerrillas, and Guatemala did for many years. Haiti is a disaster. Honduras has a vicious rightwing dictatorship that has murdered over 1,000 people.
Argentina is mostly urbanized, but the landed rural elite still runs the country. Any talk at all of land reform or even taxation of large estates as was done recently under Christine Fernandez, and the ruling class starts making ominous threats of a coup. I assume something similar is going on in Uruguay. Those countries are urbanized though, so large landownership is not such a problem.
I’m not sure if there has ever been a land reform in Brazil, but there is no dearth of large landowners.
The fact that Colombia, Guatemala, and Haiti are so backwards is largely because there has never been a land reform.
The land reform was incomplete in Venezuela.
It is interesting that every country that fails to do a land reform seems to end up with a Communist or Leftist insurgency at some point or another. It’s almost without fail. This goes to show you that most Communist insurgencies in the Third World are over the most basic things dating all the way back to French Revolution: land and bread (food).
As far as land reforms go, they were done in Mexico, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Venezuela, and Peru.
I’m not sure about Uruguay, Ecuador, Bolivia, Panama, Jamaica, Belize, the Guyanas, Chile, and most of the Caribbean.
And I’m not sure if one ever got done in the Dominican Republic after Bosch.
In El Salvador, 200,000 had to die in order for a land reform to take place. Roberto D’Aubission, the godfather of the Salvadoran death squads and the most favored visitor at the US Embassy, once said that “We will have to kill 200,000 people in order to prevent socialism in El Salvador.” What he meant by socialism was land reform.
It is notable that no land reform was ever done in India, nor in Pakistan or even Bangladesh. I had a friend whose parents were large feudal landowners in Pakistan who rented out land to farmers who ended up in debt peonage. In 1986, 14 million people a year were dying of starvation related diseases in the capitalist world. Most of that was in South Asia in Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and India. Most of these deaths were attributed to the problem of the private ownership of land.
There is a problem with the private ownership of land. In the US, we think this is sacrosanct, but on a worldwide basis, it doesn’t work very well. What do you need all that land for? What do you need more than, say, an acre and a house? Nothing, unless you are a farmer.
In China, all land is owned by the state. All homeowners lease the land, often on 100 year leases. I’m not sure how it works in the countryside.
In Mexico, much of the land is owned by the state also, a product of the land reform that occurred after the Revolution. One of the major demands of the Revolution was land reform. Pre-revolution, most peasants usually lived like serfs. The state land in Mexico is called ejidos.
If you ever can’t make it in the city, if you become unemployed or homeless, you can always go out to the countryside and take up residence in an ejido, which are something like communal lands that are formed by the group that makes up the ejido. You join this group, work the land, and get a share of the crop. At least you have enough food to eat. So in Mexico the ejidos are a stopgap measure.
In China too, if you can’t make it in the city, you can always go back to the rural areas, take up residence, and work the land. At least you will have enough to food to eat. It is illegal to be homeless in China. If you are homeless, the police pick you up and put you in shelters, which are something like college dorms. They also encourage you to go back to the countryside if you have relatives back there. In recent years, many people have moved from the countryside to the cities to make more money. Those that don’t make it can always move back to the farm.
There was debate a while back about privatizing state land, but it ran aground on the idea that the state ownership of land was necessary as a stopgap measure in the event of urban poverty. In addition, state ownership of land has prevented the development of a national oligarchy or plutocracy.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has been adamant that the development of a national oligarchy or plutocracy must be prevented at all costs. Once they develop, they are sort of like an infection in that they soon spread and take over society. The CCP has billionaire party members who are members of the People’s Assembly.
Guess what these “Communists” are advocating for? Reduction or elimination of taxes on the rich, massive reductions in social spending, state repression of labor, and the privatization of land along with most of the rest of the economy. I think this goes to show you that billionaires are the same everywhere. Whether in a Communist or capitalist country, a rightwing or leftwing country, billionaires always have precisely the same class interests that barely vary at all. It’s usually something like this:
Reduction or elimination of taxes on the rich, massive reductions in social spending, state repression of labor, and the privatization of land along with most of the rest of the economy.
This goes to show that class interests of various classes are nearly a law in a mathematical sense and not even a theory of social science. This was what Marx was getting at when he spoke of the laws of economics. They are so predictable that we can almost class them with the laws, theorems, and corollaries of mathematics instead of the typical “true for now” theories of most of the sciences.
I have a feeling that a Hell of a lot more things are laws, too, especially in terms of basic human behavior. So many of these things seem almost unchangeable. Of course they would never apply to everyone, but it’s pretty obvious that they are general tendencies.
I didn’t actually read the book, but James Schipper did. Below I will quote from an article from NACLA that critiques the book well.
James Schipper: Perón came back from exile, and then won the election with a landslide. Unless the Argentines are complete political idiots, this demonstrates that he tried to accomplish something for the masses. Ordinary voters may not understand much about economics, but they usually sense who is on their side and who is not.
The US, Canada, Great Britain, and Australia are three Anglosphere countries that keep voting for rightwing economics despite themselves. The masses have been harmed by neoliberalism in all of these countries, but every four years, they march off and vote for it again. I think part of the problem is that ordinary people are voting against mass immigration and other leftwing stupidities in all of these countries. They don’t realize that neoliberalism comes as an add-on to anti-immigrant policies in the Anglosphere. Voters in the Anglosphere are political idiots.
You can see why people keep voting for the Chavistas in Venezuela. Sure, the economy is a mess, but no one blames the government. 70% of the population openly state that they are Chavistas. Things may be bad now but they know that the opposition is not their friend! This is why they keep voting for Ortega in Nicaragua, Lukashenko in Belarus, and Putin in Russia. These guys are on their side, and the voters can figure that out.
James Schipper: Many years ago, I read a book called The Macroeconomics of Populism in Latin America, in which it is explained how leftist populists in LA, despite their unquestioned commitment to improving the economic lot of the poorest segment of the population, often fail because they overreach.
Wikipedia has an article called Macroeconomic Populism, which explains briefly how overambitious economic populism can backfire.
I would agree that acting too fast too soon isn’t a great idea and a slower approach might work better. But we don’t see a lot of cases of economic stupidity like this nowadays in Latin America.
Yes, I think that book is not good. One man worked for the World Bank. Their basic attitude is “Don’t rely on government to try to fix economic problems and help the poor. It fails every time.” In other words, it’s hopeless. Massive inequality a problem? Sure. What to do? Nothing! Because everything you do is going to fail. I dunno.
Here is a critique of the book:
The book is referred to in this book review of another book as “an outdated, far-right, academically dishonest book.”
From the article.
Rudiger Dornbush, and Sebastian Edwards, two University of Chicago-trained economists.
See? They were both trained at the University of Chicago. That’s the home of Milton Friedman, neoliberalism, the Chicago Boyz, the neoliberal whiz kids who caused so much destruction all over the world, especially in Latin America. UoC/Friedmanite economics doesn’t work. Period. It causes massive inequality, significant gains for the top 20% and a serious drop in income for the bottom 80%. This is exactly what happened from 1980-1992 under Reagan-Bush. Sure, if you are in the top 20%, I would say neoliberal economics is the way to go. But if you’re not, it’s economic suicide.
They complain about D and E’s portrayal of Chile:
The most astonishing example of the book’s studied ignorance happens to be one of the most indisputable and well-documented examples of U.S. intervention: Chile.
According to Chapter 7 of Dornbush and Edwards’ book, written by Felipe Larraín (currently Chile’s Finance Minister) and Patricio Meller, the “decline and full collapse of the [Allende coalition government] experiment during the years 1972-73 is a clear consequence of the ‘successful’ overexpansive policies implemented in 1971.”
Never mind that Nixon reacted to the 1970 elections determined to “smash Allende,” telling then-CIA director Richard Helms to “make the economy scream.” Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh details the earliest destabilization campaigns, carried out even before Allende took office:
Approval was granted for a last-minute increase of the propaganda activities designed to convince the Chilean Congress that an Allende election would mean financial chaos. Within two weeks, twenty-three journalists from at least ten countries were brought into Chile by the CIA, and they combined with CIA propaganda “assets” already in place to produce more than 700 articles and broadcasts both in and out of Chile before the congressional election – a staggering total whose ultimate influence cannot be measured.
By late September, a full-fledged bank panic had broken out in Santiago, and vast amounts of funds were being transferred abroad. Sales of durable goods, such as automobiles and household goods, fell precipitously; industrial production also dropped. Black-market activities soared as citizens sought to sell their valuables at discounted prices.
Ok that’s a case of capital flight. Venezuela had the same problem. All I can say is that it upholds Lenin’s idea that the peaceful road to socialism, while a great idea in theory, simply never works in real life because the capitalists simply sabotage the economy.
Larraín and Meller mention Nixon, Kissinger, Richard Helms, I.T.T., and/or Pepsi precisely zero times in their scholarly analysis. Whereas U.S. Ambassador to Chile Edward Korry threatened that “not a nut or bolt will be allowed to reach Chile under Allende,” doing “all within our power to condemn Chile and the Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty.”
Like I said, they failed badly to include the US massive economic war it waged against Chile. The same exact program was used against Venezuela, with the same results. The sanctions on Zimbabwe and Nicaragua also caused hyperinflation.
The only hyperinflation I’ve seen lately was caused by capitalists waging economic war against the state or by US sanctions. Usually both are going on at the same time. In Venezuela, the capitalists won’t stop raising prices. They love the hyperinflation because they’ve used it to play the currency black market to make a bundle. And they deliberately created it by shutting down production and hoarding goods.
At one point, Maduro put the army in charge of enforcing price controls, and the inflation stabilized for a while, but then they were withdrawn and they went back up again. However, after floating the currency along with a drop in the value of real wages and a reduction of most people’s savings, inflation was subdued. I’d hate to see these guys’ analysis of Venezuela. In fact, Krugman is already saying that Venezuela and Argentina are modern cases of this macroeconomic populism.
The authors argue instead that all state efforts to create a decent economy will fail and the only thing that will work is neoliberalism.
The authors explain that “the message emerging from the papers in this book is clear: the use of macroeconomic policy to achieve distributive goals has historically led to failure, sorrow, and frustration.” That’s why they helpfully disabuse Latin America of its “naive confidence in the ability of governments to cure all social and economic ills.”
However, neoliberalism doesn’t work either:
Second, it is worth noting that Cambridge development economist Ha-Joon Chang has analyzed the effects of these supposedly self-defeating macro policies. He finds on the contrary that “developing countries did not do badly at all during the ‘bad old days’ of protectionism and state intervention in the 1960s and 70s. In fact, their economic growth performance during the period was far superior [3.1% in per capita GDP a year for Latin America] to that achieved since the 1980s under greater opening and deregulation [1.1% a year from 1980-2009].
…And even that rate was partly due to the rapid growth of countries in the region that had explicitly rejected neoliberal policies sometime earlier in the 2000s – Argentina, Ecuador, Uruguay and Venezuela.” In fact, when Dornbush and Edwards published their book in 1991 denouncing “overly expansive” macro policies, Latin America and the Caribbean – largely compliant to IMF diktats at that point – had already averaged an entire decade of negative 0.3% growth rate per capita (1980-1990).
If you are going to read books about economics, I recommend Ha-Joon Chang. As you can see, neoliberalism in Latin America failed completely. Even its proponents admitted that it failed, but their attitude was the usual, “We didn’t give it time enough. Give it some more time and it will start working.” Yeah, right.
Larraín and Meller focus their attention exclusively on the macroeconomic policy errors of Allende’s Unidad Popular (UP) government. Its efforts to “increase real wages and to improve Chilean income distribution failed completely,” they contend, dryly adding that it “took eight years, up to 1981 (during the ‘peak of the boom’), for real wages to recover the level they had held in 1970 before the UP government.”
Larraín and Meller omit from this account Pinochet’s post-1973 reign of terror in which tens of thousands were imprisoned and killed and an economic policy during the dictatorship that led to virtually no growth in per capita income by 1986, 13 years after the coup.
See? Neoliberalism didn’t work either. It took until 11 years after Allende for real wages to reach the level they were under Allende. Then there was an economic crash. I believe it took until 1989 for wages to reach the level they were under Allende again. That’s just a complete failure of neoliberalism over 20 years.
Perhaps the paper’s most artful flourish is the cynical use of the impersonal, passive voice. Nixon directed a comprehensive program of economic sabotage literally bearing Secretary of State Kissinger’s signature. The U.S. funded all major anti-government strikes, the CIA penetrated all of Chile’s political parties, and it courted the military to foment a putsch.
From D and E:
Real wages dropped spectacularly, by -11.3% in 1972 and -38.6% in 1973. This last figure includes a 30% cut induced in the fourth quarter of 1973, after the military coup…[B]y the end of 1971 the signals of disequilibrium were clear for a dispassionate observer. Bottlenecks appeared in strength during 1972, and 1973 witnessed the collapse of the whole experiment. Political instability mounted, and a coup ultimately replaced the UP Government with a military junta [emphases mine].
It was all Allende’s fault. All of the economic sabotage and the economic war the US waged to make the economy scream? That did nothing at all! Seems like a very bad analysis.
Guys like D and E are still writing today:
Today, U.S. scholars carry on the dubious tradition of lambasting Latin American populism, whatever its prevailing definition. Due to South America’s general drift to the left in recent years, academics make increasingly strained attempts to “recognize” and discredit it. In an October 2011 paper entitled Decreasing Inequality Under Latin America’s ‘Social Democratic’ and ‘Populist’ Governments: Is the Difference Real?,”Juan Montecino of the Center for Economic and Policy Research highlights the “arbitrary and ill-defined nature” of this endeavor.
Montecino politely dismantles the findings of economists Darryl McLeod and Nora Lustig, who purport to show that “social democratic” regimes did better than “left-populist” ones in reducing inequality in recent years. He shows that their empirical results are reversed when one runs the same regressions using data from the Economic Commission for Latin America. The paper raises questions as to whether their categories capture “anything more than a general antipathy toward one group of governments.”
In other words, they faked the data.
Unsurprisingly, this antipathy is directed toward three of the four countries Ha-Joon Chang highlights for experiencing growth after rejecting neoliberal policies: Argentina, Ecuador, and Venezuela.
Their enemies now are those three countries. Simon Johnson attacks Latin American populism in the case of Argentina:
Johnson has referred to Argentina as “a country that struggles over many decades (and whose leaders frequently rail against the world) and for which episodes of reasonable prosperity and new economic models are punctuated by gut-wrenching crises.”
In the case of Argentina’s last gut-wrenching crisis in 2001, however, the “IMF’s fingerprints” were all over it, wrote macroeconomist Mark Weisbrot, CEPR’s co-director and Argentina expert, in late 2001. “It arranged massive amounts of loans – including $40 billion [in 2000] – to support the [overvalued] Argentine peso,” writes Weisbrot. Then it “made its loans conditional on a ‘zero-deficit’ policy for Argentine government.”
By doing so, the IMF was able to “convince most of the press that Argentina’s ‘profligate’ spending habits [were] the source of its troubles.” Finally, the IMF – an organization Tim Geithner recently considered essential for promoting U.S. foreign policy – implausibly claimed it had always been against the overvalued peso and that the loans were made in order to placate the Argentine government.
The IMF caused the problem with orthodox neoliberalism and then blamed the government for “profligate spending” because they ordered it to read zero-deficit, a goal which itself caused the crisis.
See? They’re making it up.
Second, Johnson seems to portray the country as wracked by serious, ongoing difficulties. But Weisbrot et al. demonstrate that since defaulting and devaluing, Argentina – widely considered ‘populist’ – expanded 94% from 2002–11 (the fastest growth in the hemisphere), reaching its pre-recession level of GDP in three years, tripling real social spending over seven years, reducing poverty and extreme poverty by two-thirds (using independent estimates of inflation), and achieving record levels of employment.
Their paper also demolishes the myth repeated by many economists – including McLeod and Lustig – that Argentina’s success was largely the effect of a serendipitous commodities boom.
See? Populism worked great in Argentina. It also worked great in Venezuela (before the economic war combined with the collapse in oil prices killed the economy), Ecuador, and Bolivia.
The devastating policies of the past in Latin America, as well as the more successful policies of vastly more independent governments over the past decade, are intimately tied up with Washington’s control over the hemisphere and the recent collapse of its influence – especially in South America. Roger Morris, a staffer at the National Security Council until mid-1970, clarified such considerations for Seymour Hersh:
“I don’t think anybody ever fully grasped that Henry [Kissinger] saw Allende as being a far more serious threat than Castro. If Latin America ever became unraveled, it never would happen with a Castro. Allende was a living example of democratic social reform in Latin America…Chile scared him.”
The devastating economics of the past in Latin America were caused by the US waging economic war on countries that practiced populist economics. This same populism has worked much better now because the influence of the US has greatly fallen in the continent.
The U.S. government has long imposed double standards on the permissibility of social reforms. While instrumental to Allende’s overthrow abroad, the Nixon administration could boast progressive domestic achievements, including the creation of the Environmental Protection Agency, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, and the Earned Income Tax Credit, widely considered one of the most important anti-poverty programs in U.S. history.
Similarly, Lyndon Johnson enacted Great Society programs at home but sent thousands of troops to the Dominican Republic in 1965 to quell an uprising demanding the restitution of the deposed social democratic president, Juan Bosch. A liberal wishing to implement land reforms, Bosch was the subject of an FBI espionage and interception operation authorized by J. Edgar Hoover in the months preceding the rebellion, as Bosch sat exiled in Puerto Rico.
See? Liberalism at home. Fascism abroad. That’s the policy prescription of the US under Democrats and liberal Republicans. Also note the FBI overthrew him. The FBI was deeply involved in the lawfare against Brazil that resulted in the false charges being filed against Lula that put him in prison. See? The FBI literally overthrew Lula in Brazil. The FBI are not just pigs; they’re the worst pigs of them all – feds. And it is a deeply political and always reactionary organization. Fuck the FBI.
Perhaps unknowingly, Johnson is simply keeping within the permissible framework of an intellectual culture that has always accommodated and justified Washington’s hypocrisy. To my knowledge, Johnson has yet to apply his support for “standing up to the banks…proposing a more responsible course of action than that preferred by the banking elite,” and “greater transparency in financial transactions” to the IMF, which has conducted most of its deliberations, meetings, and consultations in secret.
Simon Johnson is pro-IMF, like the authors of that book.
On the The New York Times website, he offhandedly dismisses Latin American populism with a reference to an outdated, far-right, academically dishonest book – all in an article that challenges the U.S. elite by praising populism. This is a compelling example of the imperial double standard that keeps “pro-populist” commentators from seeing what is going on in developing countries.
The book you are praising is referred to an “outdated, far-right, academically dishonest book.” I believe that is correct.
But even if the Times’ readers never learn of Latin America’s protracted struggle for self-determination against U.S. power, the region is now a breeding ground for the most constructive values associated with populism. More than a decade of successful revolts has allowed for the elections of independent left governments in most of South America and has brought enormous gains to the poor majority through greater economic sovereignty and democratic social reform. Or as Kissinger might put it, Latin America has unraveled.
See? For the last 20 years, excellent populist economic policies in Latin America have brought enormous gains for the poor majority. According to E and D, it should have been catastrophic.
Almost all Sunni morons, even Pakistanis, believe that Iran wants to control the Middle East. The extreme versions say Iran wants to conquer all of the Sunni Arabs and rule over them. Almost all Sunni Arabs actually believe this crap. This thinking is especially prominent in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Gulf (except possibly Qatar), Lebanon, to some extent in Jordan, and Egypt and Sudan to a somewhat weak extent.
Further west in Africa, the Sunnis do not give two shits about Iran. Nor do the rest of the African Sunnis. Nor do they Turks although they hate and persecute their own Shia. Nor do the Muslims of the Caucasus, Russia, and the Stans. In Afghanistan it is particularly stupid because Afghanistan is largely Iranic culturally and even linguistically, particularly in the West. Some of the bigger warlords such as Ismail Khan over there in the west in Herat were actually openly pro-Iran.
Shias are persecuted pretty brutally in Pakistan. Sunni Salafists regularly attack their rallies with suicide bombers, killing many people. The jihadi group LET, which fights in Kashmir, is viciously anti-Shia.
No one quite knows where this comes from but it seems that anyplace where there are lots of Shia, they Shia are hated by the Sunnis.
They are persecuted by Sunni majorities in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, but not in Yemen or Syria, although there are vicious anti-Shia groups there. Sunni minorities in Lebanon and Iran and particularly in Iraq are very anti-Shia. However, the Iranian Sunnis are not treated right at all, although they have 28,000 mosques in Iran. W
hen you get over to North Africa, there are just not any Shia to hate. What’s a Shia? That’s what the North African says.
Palestinians were typically anti-Shia and especially anti-Iran historically because Arab nationalist idiots hate Iran for no good reason, as I elaborated above. Hamas caused a lot of controversy in Palestine for being so close to Iran since they were Sunnis, but they are not stupid. Recently they supported the Sunni Syrian opposition, which enraged the Syrian government. At the same time, Palestinians in Syria formed pro-government militias and fought on the side of the government, though a few went over to the jihadi opposition.
ISIS took over a large Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus for a time and the Palestinians were smeared as ISIS supporters because of this. But most Palestinians in that camp disliked ISIS. The camp is called Yarmouk, and is one of the worst hellholes in Syria. I think there may be delays in rebuilding because of government suspicion that residents sided with ISIS. So Hamas was aligned with Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, the Houthis, the Iraqi Shia, and Iran, and then like complete tools they let their bigotry get the best of them and supported the Sunni jihadis in Syria. However, Syria and Hamas have patched up their relationship.
This is especially odd considering how poorly the Shia have been treated. Before the rise of Hezbollah, the Sunnis in Lebanon would not let the Shia work at any job more respectable than a trash collector. They were like Dalits in India. Imagine that you were in the Jim Crow South and the Whites were all possessed by paranoid fantasies that the Blacks were going to declare war on the Whites, conquer them and rule over the Whites, treating them as inferiors. Crazy, right? This is how Sunnis feel about Iran. They’re all nutcases. It’s also projection, see?
But the Palestinians have become very pro-Iran these days since only Iran has stepped up to the plate to support the Palestinians and only the Shia are supporting the Palestinians at all. The Sunni Arabs would much rather kill the Shia than fight Israel, though the latter obviously is more important and the former has no importance at all.
The only significant help the Palestinians are getting is from the Shia Houthis in Yemen, the Shia Hezbollah in Lebanon, Syria, a Shia-led regime in a majority Sunni country, Shia Iran, and pro-Iranian militias in Iraq that are now formally part of the Iraqi Army itself.
They have gotten help from Jordanians who massed at the border and tried to break through, but those were probably mostly Palestinian refugees, as they make up 70% of the population but frankly lack representation in the government, which is a monarchy. Mobs tried to rush the Lebanese border too, but those were probably mostly Shia. Quite a few of them may also have been Palestinian refugees because there are a number of large refugee camps in Southern Lebanon.
It is true that large majorities in Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Sudan, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, Kuwait, and Qatar support the Palestinians, and there is also a lot of support for them in Turkey and Pakistan. These supporters are mostly Sunnis. But the average person does not rule in the Arab World and dictatorships are the rule. It is these dictatorships that have been selling out and making peace with Israel lately, the most outrageous of which has been the UAE, which has apparently gone full Zionist. They’re simply traitors.
However, the Saudis and Emiratis have brainwashed their populations, which used to strongly support the Palestinians but who know repeat the programmed lie that “the Palestinians are not our problem.
A while back, mobs stormed the Israeli border with Syria in the Golan and quite a few of them were killed. These were probably mostly Sunni Syrians though there may have been a lot of Palestinian refugees among them, as there are quite a few in Syria.
There was some anti-Shia sentiment when Islamic Jihad was formed because this Sunni group took inspiration from the Iranian revolution.
There was a rumor that the original Sunni leader converted to Shiism and this caused something of a scandal. The Sunnis are all absolutely terrified that Iran is going to conquer and dominate them and in the process force them to convert to Shiism. The truth is almost zero Sunnis ever convert to Shiism.
Shiism is simply not a proselytizing religion, whereas Sunnism is. One of the main complaints of the Houthis was that Saudi Arabia was sponsoring Wahhabi preachers to come into the north of Yemen and convert the Shia to Sunni Wahhabism. This roused up quite a bit of anger amid the Shia and it was a major reason for the Houthi Revolution. Once again you can see that Sunnis are projecting with their terror of the Shia forcibly converting them to Shiism.
Hamas has aligned very closely with Iran, but so have the Salah-al-Din Brigades, the Al-Aqsa Martyr’s Brigades rejectionists who took up arms in various formations, and the PFLP. I have heard that there is a portrait of Soleimani in every home in Gaza.
About a month ago, Israeli jets attacked Syria for the umpteenth time. They’ve probably attacked them a thousand times since the war started. Of course, Syria can’t lift one finger to hit back because of they do, those (((dogs in Israel))), like all (((bullies))), will say that they got attacked for no reason and now they have to defend themselves.
And they’ve threatened to raze Syria to the ground if Syria so much as looks at them wrong when they get attacked. That’s the bully. The bully beats you up all the time, all the while saying you are attacking him. Israel bombs Syria constantly, all the while saying Syria is attacking it.
If you dare to fight back against the bully even one time, he goes completely crazy and tries to destroy you in some way or another.
That is because you, the victim, are not allowed to retaliate against the bully. It is as if you are upsetting the whole fabric of the bullying itself. It’s a slave rebellion and you know how outraged masters get when slaves fight back. So Israel is just a typical 8th grade punk that everyone hates going around beating up on all the weaker, wimpier, or effeminate boys. America is also a bully country. In fact, we are the biggest bully in the whole world. So naturally we form an alliance with the Israeli bully as bullies tend to befriend other bullies.
Sometimes shells from the Syrian Civil War go errant and fly into the Golan Heights. Syria attacks the Syrian Army every time this happens, saying it “holds Syria responsible for any shells that come over its border.” Except the shells are often launched by the rebels. Syria is not allowed to fight back against these attacks because Israel threatens to destroy Syria if it lifts a finger against it.
Israel, of course, in tribute to its kind, humanitarian nature, has been treating ISIS and Al Qaeda rebels in Syria. All they have to do is present themselves at the border saying they’re wounded and it’s a first class ticket to an Israeli hospital. But the US, UK, France, Turkey, Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia have also been supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria. In the case of Al Qaeda, a while back, a former East German journalist who now works for a German newspaper who is somehow not completely cucked got an interview with an Al Qaeda commander in a cave in Aleppo Province.
The commander was emphatic that US, UK, Turkish, Ermirati, Saudi, Israeli, and US intelligence officers were all embedded with Al Qaeda forces in Syria. In fact, when Aleppo was being liberated by the Syrian Army, Syria announced that 10 US intelligence officers were still holed up in the last strongholds of the city. Syria said the US was demanding that they be allowed to evacuate their Al Qaeda-embedded US spies. The Syrian government even published a list of the 10 spies. The execrable Samantha Power, a Democrat (!) was having hissy fits in Aleppo while all of this was going on. Even Biden admitted that we had been supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria for a long time.
Anyway, Israel was bombing Syria as usual, and Syria fired some Anti-air missiles at the Israeli jets, which it missed as usual. One was an F-5 Anti-aircraft missile. These missiles have a short range and if they miss their target, they are programmed to simply fall towards the ground and explode, I believe in the air.
At around this time, there was a huge blast from a missile or a rocket 20 miles north of the Dimona nuclear plant in Dimona, Israel. Israel quickly reported that an F-5 Syrian missile fired at an Israeli jet over the Golan traveled all the down to Dimona and blew up on the ground. First of all, I don’t think they blow up on the ground. Second of all, an F-5 missile does not have a very long range, surely not all the way down to Dimona. Third, even if it did blow up on the ground, it would not make a very big explosion, not as large as the one reported. Fourth, it somehow managed to completely evade the Iron Dome and all Israeli radars. Fifth, as I noted, it would have blown up in the air after it missed the jet.
A colleague of mine, E.J. Magnier, wrote an article saying everything above. He also said that the attack was not done by a anti-air missile but by a ballistic missile, a Fajr-110. It flies very fast so it can evade the Iron Dome, besides I don’t think that Dome is much use against actual ballistic missiles. An interesting report from Veterans Today said that Russia used electronic warfare to jam the Iron Dome’s radars, enabling the ballistic missile to slip by unnoticed. I think there is something to it, but E.J. poo-pooed it in an email to me.
On the other hand, rejects a lot of stuff. He still believes that 2,800 pounds of unexplodable fertilizer somehow blew up in a harbor in Beirut because that is the lie that Hezbollah and Iran told him. Hez and Iran had reason to lie about the Israeli nuclear bomb attack on Beirut because it would be an extremely demoralizing thing to report to the Iranian and Lebanese people as it would imply an omnipotent Israel and there was no way for either Hezbollah or Iran to retaliate against Israel.
Anyway, it appears that that was a Syrian knockoff of an Iranian Fajr-110 ballistic missile. And it appears that Iran either helped launch it or gave it a go-ahead. And Russia may well have assisted with the electronic warfare because Israel was stunned that the missile got through. E.J. said it is because these missiles fly very fast, hence they can avoid the Iron Dome. I doubt if that is true. Anyway, this missile caused a huge explosion 20 miles north of Dimona in an open area. That missile has a targeting that causes it to land within 12 feet of where it is programmed to land. That is, it is a guided missile. So it was targeted to land just there.
This was a message to Israel from Syria and especially Iran to watch it. It was also payback for the endless attacks on Iran and Syria that Israel has engaged in. And it also said that we can shoot a missile that can hit your nuclear reactor, a huge ballistic missile that flies very fast, and we know how to make it invisible to your radars and anti-aircraft batteries.
In other words, paybacks from Iran and Syria.
If you’re not careful, the media will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and cheering the people doing the oppressing.
This is precisely the function of the media in a capitalist society. The Chinese media is not like this because, duh, China is not a capitalist country! Nor is the Iranian media because Iran is not a capitalist country. In fact, Iran is almost something like “Islamic Communism.” I’m not wild about Ayatollah Khomeini, but he did have a strong social justice streak.
The Revolution was populist, pro-independence, and anti-imperialist. Iran is almost based on a Muslim version of Liberation Theology or “the preferential option of the poor.” The social safety net is huge in Iran. Also, much of the economy is run by the state. It’s actually run by religious charities, often with ties to the military and the IRGC. I believe these religious charities do not operate at a profit. Small businesses are not bothered at all, as in all Muslim countries. I was reading Ayatollah Khameini’s tweets for a while on Twitter, and I could have been reading Che Guevara. Basically the same message.
Islam is just not friendly to neoliberal economics or radical individualism. It is a very collectivist religion in a very collectivist society.
Neoliberalism hasn’t caught on much of anywhere in the Muslim world other than Indonesia and the Southern Philippines, and they had to murder 1 million Communists in cold blood to get there in Indonesia and the Moros have always rejected Catholic rule in both a political and economic sense. it is notable that the Maoist NPA are also huge in Mindanao, home of the Moros.
Pakistan, too, has inherited the selfish economics and even feudalism in land tenure straight from Indian Hinduism. They even have caste, which would be considered an aberration in any decent Muslim society.
All of the Arab countries are basically socialist at least in name, and that was never a hard sell there. It’s true that 100 years ago, the Arab lands were mostly feudal in nature, with big landowners and peasants in debt bondage. They rich had co-opted the religious authorities like they always do, and the mullahs preached that Islamic feudalism was right and proper because the Prophet had said, “It is normal that some are rich and some are poor.” But it was always a hard sell, and it had a very weak foundation.
After independence, socialism was instituted in most if not all Arab countries at least in name. In particular, huge land reforms were done in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Yemen, Libya, and Palestine. I assume something like that was done in Algeria too. It was a very easy sell, and everyone went along with it without a hitch. The mullahs quickly changed from support for feudalism to support for socialism.
Hamas rules Gaza and I was shocked at how huge the social safety net is. The many religious charities run the safety net, which is distributed under the rubric of Islam. This is done instead of the state doling it out.
Mohammad himself didn’t have much to say about economics, but he wasn’t a neoliberal capitalist or a feudalist.
In Christian societies, the rich have utter contempt and hatred for the poor, who they regard as little more than human garbage. If you want to see this philosophy in action, look at the classism in Latin America. As all Muslims are part of the umma, and hence, as all are brothers and sisters, it is simply unconscionable that wealthy Muslims would be able to openly hate poor Muslims. You simply cannot treat your fellow Muslims like that. It’s not officially haram but it might as well be.
European Style Fascism in the Middle East
It is instructive that the only place in the Arab world where neoliberal economics and in particular Libertarianism took hold was in Lebanon, and even there, it was only among Catholic Maronites. Most Arab Christians look east to Antioch (and before that, Constantinople) to the Eastern Orthodox church, which is really just the eastern wing of Catholicism.
The Maronites, though, deride Antioch and instead look to Rome. They see themselves as European people instead of Arabs. Many deny that they are Arabs and instead refer to themselves as “Phoenicians.” It is interesting that the only real classical fascism in the Arab World took hold in the Lebanese Maronites, where the Gameyels imported it from Europe in the 1930’s.
The Jews of Israel also developed a very European form of fascism starting with Jabotinsky and his book The Iron Wall in 1921. This man was an open fascist. He is considered to be the spiritual father of the Likud Party. During the 1940’s, the armed Jewish rebels split into leftwingers who were almost Communists and rightwingers who were more or less fascists.
The Kahanists today look a lot like a European fascist party. And in fact, the entire Israeli rightwing around Likud, etc. looks pretty fascist in a European sense. So Israeli Jews are really Jewish fascists or fascist Jews. It has never been an easy ride for liberal and secular US Jews to support the Orthodox religious fanatics and rightwingers if not out and out fascists in the Likud, etc. in Israel. This was always completely unstable, and after that latest war, it’s finally starting to fall apart. But the seeds of destruction were already there.
But note that the Jews of Israel very much look to the West and see themselves as Europeans (which many are for all intents and purposes). They align themselves with the Judeo-Christian European society that many of them came from.
Half of Israeli Jews are Mizrachi Jews from the Arab World, and they have always had a Judeo-Islamic culture. However, when they moved to Israel, this was dismantled by perhaps not entirely. They rejected it due to the association of Arabs and Islam with the enemy, which is correct.
Economics and Catholicism
This radical classism and near-feudalism in Latin America was supported by the Catholic Church, which was always a very rightwing institution because they were always in bed with the rich. There were always Left splits in Catholicism like Dorothy Day and The Catholic Worker. The Catholic clergy in the US has tended to be quite leftwing.
There is a long history of “Catholic Communism” in the Philippines, Czechoslovakia, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, the Basque Country, France, Italy, Haiti, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Cuba, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay, Argentina, and Uruguay. The IRA was a leftwing Catholic armed group. A lot of priests were caught hiding IRA cadre. So was the ETA in the Basque Country of Spain.
Catholic Leftism never caught on in Poland and Lithuania due to hatred of Russia and the USSR. Nevertheless, both are more or less socialist countries.
Even today there is an active “Catholic Communist” movement in Cuba that is very lively. In Honduras and Colombia, Catholic priests actually led guerrilla bands. Liberation Theoloy is something like “Jesus Christ with an AK-47.” The Leftist who recently took power in Paraguay was a former Catholic priest.
The ELN was founded by a priest, Camilo Torres, and many Catholic clergy even supported the Shining Path! Edith Lagos, a 20 year old woman, was the leader of a very early Shining Path column in Peru. She was killed in 1980 and the entire town of Ayacucho, 30,0000 people, came out for her funeral which was held at midnight. The lines of mourners stretched through the whole city. All of the priests in town blessed her body, and she was given a proper Catholic funeral.
I believe that the PT or Workers Party of Brazil has a large Liberation Theology component. The Catholic clergy had an excellent relationship with the FARC in Colombia. Of course, the Catholic clergy played a big role in Venezeula, and Hugo Chavez himself was a practicing Catholic. The FMLN Salvadoran rebels were explicitly Catholic, as were the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. One of the Sandinists’ top leaders, Tomas Borge, was a Catholic priest. Jean-Paul Aristide in Haiti was a Catholic priest. Catholic believers are now allowed to join the Communist Party in Cuba, and near the end of his life, Fidel Castro said he was a “cultural Catholic.”
After Vatican 2 and Liberation Theology began to spread out via the seminal documents written by Gustavo Gutierrez in Brazil, “A Theology of Liberation,” otherwise known as “exercising the preferential option for the poor,” it began to spread in Latin America. It started with local priests and especially Catholic lay workers in impoverished areas and then slowly spread. Even today, Catholic layworkers and especially seminaries are very leftwing, while the Vatican itself is not. A lot of seminaries are hotbeds of homosexuality, and the gay priests and lay workers are quite open about it. It is estimated that 15% of Catholic priests are gay.
It’s always been odd that Jews are the most liberal group in the US, yet they’ve been supporting what is obvious Jewish ethnic nationalist fascism all this time. Israel has been a far rightwing country for a long time now. The disconnect is jarring and it was probably always unsustainable. The liberalism of Jews is odd especially odd given their extreme wealth, which by all rights should make them conservative. However, Jews associate conservatism with fundamentalist Christianity and they don’t like any kind of Christianity, fundie or otherwise.
In addition, US conservatives are very uptight and Jews are notoriously loose about sexual and other matters. In addition, the Jews were very poor when they came here and most were originally working class. The suffered all of the deprivations of an abused working class group in US cities suffered 100 years ago. Hence, a lot of them became active leftwingers. Jews in Russia supported liberalism and even Communism mostly as a reaction against anti-Semitism and the racism of Czarist society. Jews worldwide have been very influential in the Left. This started the day that Napoleon let them out of the ghettos. In contrast all of those centuries in the ghettos, Jews were a very conservative, typically wealthy minority with the usual rightwing politics of any group of rich people.
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Suicide drone or loitering munition attack on an Israeli chemical factory a few miles from Gaza. These things fly fast and are very hard to hit. The Iron Dome can’t hit most of them. The only good system for taking them down is in the hands of the Russians at their base in Syria. These all come from Iran.