As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene.
You All Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, “That’s a stuffed animal.” If any of you all think that’s not a stuffed animal and it’s really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. How could that not be a stuffed animal? Any theories?
And that’s not even the start of the weirdness. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. But get this. That stuffed animal is sitting right next to the body of poor Abby. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (5’4?) is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. In other words, that stuffed animal toy is over five feet tall! Ok, that’s so crazy that it’s almost impossible to believe it’s true. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces.
A Second Search Party Member Comes Forward
As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman.
The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony.
In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. We now have two separate SPM’s both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. At this point, this rumor seems like it’s proven at least to my satisfaction.
SPM2 also reported that “there were stuffed animals at the crime scene.” There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. Only that there were stuffed animals. Note that she pluralized the noun.
Stuffed animals not a stuffed animal.
In other words, it’s now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. How many more than one? We have no idea.
Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. These two SPM’s arrived at these conclusions independently. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. So we have three people who arrived at the conclusion independently that there was at least one stuffed animal left at the time. So that seems proven too. The two SPM’s both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene.
As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. That seems proven at this point.
Search Party Members Told by LE Not to Talk about What They Had Seen
The inevitable questions arise. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now.
But now we have a response to that rejoinder. The two SPM’s discussed above have both told us that LE told them not to tell anyone what they had seen at the crime scene. I’m not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPM’s.
I will write more later on. This is just the first draft of a post.
Long, 53 pages. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors – two little girls aged 8 and 10 and two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14. If you can’t handle such material, don’t read.
The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Clearing up Some Recent Attacks on These Theories.
In the past, I estimated that 95% of what I said here in the past has been shown to be false over time, particularly when followed over years. I’m not sure if it’s that high. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. Perhaps 80-80% is a better figure following rumors from 2017-present.
Thing is over time your information tends to get better. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Also you develop better sources. We now have search party members who saw the actual crime scene, official case document(s) in our very own hands, the testimony of Leigh Kerr, a man who claims to have seen official case documents, the most accurate crime scene photos we have ever seen, and the best LE sources we have ever had. In the first four years of this case, LE only affirmed two rumors from us, one each from each LE source. And then they went away. And those sources were a couple of years ago. But now we have excellent LE sources, the best we’ve ever had.
Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. 80-90% is far too high of an error rate at this time. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly even lower.
Qualification of Claims
You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie). These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims.
The category below that is usually called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. The only things we regard as true are listed under Proven.
Unverified but Likely. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category.
Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. Most of Leigh Kerr’s and the search party member’s testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative.
Unverified. Some claims are simply listed as unverified. These are simply unverified rumors.
Unverified and Probably Not True. This claims are quite dubious and we don’t suggest anyone put any weight into them.
The Utter Uselessness of Almost all Delphi Murders Podcasters and Reddit Groups
None of these illustrious Delphi Murders Youtubers has touched it, probably because they are all narcissists who hate each other and hate anyone stealing their thunder. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? That’s because he was competition. See? These guys are mostly narcissists and they don’t believe in cooperation. It’s all about zero-sum game. One person wins and everyone else loses. Their Youtube recordings are pretty useless, though I like some of these guys.
John Kelly is a class act. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. The rest are not bad people but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Every podcast is all about them! Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting – an egomaniac – on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows.
I tune in to their broadcasts and it’s all just these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. The things discussed on the podcasts are unimportant and go on and on forever.
The podcasts are all silly speculation or talk about POI’s who are all basically ruled out as BG by now. There is also endless silly speculation in the comments about BG – “I think BG was a teenager…What if BG escaped on a hand glider?…What if BG is dead?…What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?…What if BG is really a transman and he’s not even a man at all and in fact he’s a woman?…What if BG is Mafia hitman?…Bla bla bla bla.”
I’m sure it’s very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or that or maybe something or something or possibly why or what, but at the end of the day, it’s mostly just writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. Idle speculation at its finest. Apparently there is a human need to wonder and guess and posit and whatnot. Otherwise why do we have religions? Why do kids play make-believe?
I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I’m a guy who like a little more meat on my bone.
This case is over. LE has a suspect. If you think they’ve got the wrong guy, keep tossing your POI’s into the mix. If you think someone helped BG, keep throwing out those POI’s you think helped him. But otherwise, let’s just follow the cops, ok? I’m going to follow the guy who is their principal suspect.
Likewise about this crime. We already have the basics of this crime nailed down, some by the police talking directly to us, some by official case documents sitting right in our hands, some by independent conclusions arrived at simultaneously by more than one sleuther, and a whole lot of unconfirmed rumor not yet proven that may well be correct. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and we’ve even filled in a lot of the blanks.
Questions Regarding My Credibility and Professionalism
Answers to questions about my credibility. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I don’t have to keep going over this stuff in every update. It also deals with employment and other matters in which I have held important positions of some stature requiring degrees and responsibility. In addition, I have a background in some pretty important unpaid work.
You Will All Be Proven Wrong – You Just Wait and See
I noted around the Net today on all of the big and worthless Reddits about this murder, this article, which is the most important article ever written about the Delphi Murders to date, is being trashed as completely worthless and nothing but a pack of lies.
The truth is that every single one of you are going to be shown to be wrong if and when the facts of this case ever come to light. Many things I am saying in these articles will be shown to be correct. I will be right and you will be wrong, sitting there with egg on your face. None of you will admit that I was right and you were wrong because you’re not decent enough to do that. You will continue to say I am completely discredited and that nothing I say has ever been correct. You will wage wars of personal destruction around the Net to try to stop people from linking to me, going to my website, or discussing my theories, which you will all try to shut down by saying I’m completely discredited.
Keep in mind my enemies have been doing this for 15 years now, and they’ve been wrong and I’ve been right so many times I can’t count them. They’ve never admitted I was right and they were wrong. and every time that was shown to them, they just went right back to saying I was discredited and nothing I had ever said was true. And this will happen once again in this Delphi Murders case just as it happened in the other cases above, assuming the truth ever comes to light.
People Should Listen to Me But They Never Do
Over and over in my life, I end up looking people straight in the eye, wagging my finger at them, and saying, “You should listen to me!” None of them ever do, even though I end up being right most of the time, and they end up being wrong, but they never admit that even when it is shown to them. People should listen to me because I am often correct. No one can figure this out or will admit that it is true.
Finally, after Four Years, Acquisition of Good LE Sources
It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. He’s bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. He is happy to do so. He has connections with current LE officers in Indiana. We are not sure if we should say where, but they are not in the town of Delphi or in Carroll County. Yes, insane discredited liars like us have former detectives as part of our team.
We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. We do not believe his Indiana LE connection(s) are working on this case that we are aware of. Instead they are LE street officers. But they have learned a number of things via the LE grapevine.
We would like to point out that now that we finally have some very good sources (you can’t do better than LE) and have acquired case documents we have been looking for four years, many more of the things we say in our articles are going to be shown to be true because our sources have gotten so much better, and hence the speculations and rumors will rest on a more solid and factual basis. As time goes by, we get more and more correct on here as we start filling in the blanks of the jigsaw puzzle.
We have worked closely with LE in the past. A few years ago, a Indiana State Police detective contacted us and asked for everything we had on a suspect they were looking into. We went down the rabbit hole about this man for 2-3 years, but we finally decided that while he’s an awful person, he didn’t kill those girls.
In the past, a local sheriff’s deputy in a county near Delphi was one of our most active members, particularly with graphics. He was hiding incognito.
Mr. X Is Innocent Until Proven Guilty
I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Do not harass or bother this man or his family in any way, shape, or form! No one knows if he did this crime or not. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t.
Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Twice they were wrong. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through.
Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasn’t even risen to that level yet. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know?
LE doesn’t have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X at this time. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, it’s awfully thin. In fact, the rumor – and a longstanding one at that – is that LE simply does not have enough evidence against Mr. X to take the case to court. DA’s require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they won’t take it to trial. At this point, they don’t even have enough for an arrest.
Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. The judge would say you don’t even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. That’s very embarrassing.
Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. There are cases like this all over the country.
A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970’s. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. He has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trials there now.
There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. They don’t have enough on him to take him to trial. A book has been published accusing him of this crime. He is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims’ graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims’ families to offer “solace for their losses.” See the sort of games these guys play? A police chief in a town over there accused the man of committing these crimes, and the man sued the city and won $50,000. This is why you don’t hear LE coming out and openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they are sure they did it and they have enough evidence to take them to trial.
And those are just the suspected serials running around free. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides where LE feels that they know who did it but don’t have enough evidence to take them to trial.
If Mr. X Were on Trial for These Murders Today and I Were in the Jury, I Would Vote to Acquit Him
Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. But my opinion isn’t worth anything. And if Mr. X was being tried today, and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Because it doesn’t matter whether I think he’s guilty or not. The state has to prove it. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. And with the evidence they currently have, they haven’t proven it. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. That’s the price you pay to live in a free society.
Time to Give up on All These POI’s
This is just getting ridiculous. No one has to believe me when I tell them that LE has a suspect who they think committed the Delphi Murders. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn’t. Maybe LE is wrong. They’ve been wrong many times before in cases like this, particularly in sex murders of little children. They often have their eye on one suspect for a long time until it turns out he’s no good. Anyway, I think there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest.
Ron Logan: Enough already. Give it a rest, dammit! How many times has he been cleared? 242? Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! However, we believe that an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Ron’s land and killed them there.
Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? Stop. He’s innocent. Leave this poor man alone, for God’s sake. Hasn’t’ he suffered enough? No, he didn’t kill his own granddaughter, dammit. Come on, people.
Becky Patty: Obviously they’re not accusing her of the homicides! The accusation is that she “knows something” or “knows way too much” and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. I doubt it. No one’s been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. It’s as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. Well, of course she did. It’s no surprise. She still hasn’t been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness.
Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. It’s an understandable reaction, but they’re still not pleasant to be around. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards, pretty much at the world. I won’t reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. I will say that Libby’s birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Both of these people were probably ragers before so it’s not like they did a U-turn. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. Let’s hope they find some peace.
Becky Patty is internalizing her pain and putting it inwards, which is at least more prosocial. Someone like Mike Patty may be dealing with this pain by disassociating as we men do. People think we are stoic but really we are dissociating. The feelings are there. You push them, shove them out at others or disassociate them into the ether or better yet your subconcsious. Everyone’s got their style. Whatever gets you through the night. The last person on Earth to “protect the killer” is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul.
Derrick German: Libby’s father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. I don’t know this man very well, but he wasn’t in on this crime.
Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Kelsi’s DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and can’t keep her stories straight. I have no idea why she’s doing this, but it’s not because she killer her own sister for God’s sake. Kelsi German has been cleared.
FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldn’t use his real name, but he’s on everybody’s suspect list. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. Now he says he never saw BG at all. I guess he can’t make up his mind. He’s also thoroughly lawyered up, and he’s not saying a word. I get it. He’s a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Hey, it’s a capitalist country, right? The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logan’s land. Sure he’s a greedy businessman, but I doubt if he’s that greedy.
I’ve seen quite a few photos of this guy, no doubt part of the (lousy) good old boy network so much in evidence in this blighted town. Just looking at him, I can’t see him being in on this, but I had the same feeling when I saw a photo of mild-mannered, middle-aged, frumpy, beer-bellied Mr. X, family man and loving father extraordinaire. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Not because there’s any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. I’d be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened.
Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. He raped women, not young teenage girls. He was the right age, but he doesn’t look like BG. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume he’s cleared. And one last thing: He’s dead, Jim. Move along.
CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Local professor at Purdue, known for the geocaching theory. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. I was never aware that anyone had anything against this harmless-looking fellow. Lawyered up, not talking. He’s afraid he’s going to be framed with these murders, a not unreasonable fear.
CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Well, he’s the right age anyway. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge and he and his wife’s alibi of being out of town and state traveling got a bit mangled. We all stumble over our words sometimes. He’s a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. Possibly works with kids. I’ve looked this man over and I can’t think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. His wife has taken to social media lately, pleading with people to stop harassing them and insisting he had nothing to do with this crime. Good advice. How bout taking it to heed, everyone?
Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. He killed a woman. I’m not sure why but I doubt it was for a good reason. So he’s a murderer. A murderer of young women at that. But not of young teenage girls. He’s in prison where he belongs. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, “He kills chicks! So that means he killed these girls because they’re chicks too!” Doesn’t sound like a logical progression of thought to me. Empiricism is a thing, folks. Besides, he’s the wrong age, 27-28. BG is a 50 year old man. Repeat after me: BG is a 50 year old man. Repeat as often as necessary until you get it through your head. Give it a rest, everyone.
Clearing Up Some Recent Attacks on Our Theories
It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Actually we are only claiming some of these things are true. The rest we openly admit are unverified rumors. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified.
Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. “Robert Lindsay” isn’t just one guy. “Robert Lindsay” is the leader of a sleuthing group that formerly had 200 paid members, including active duty LE personnel from nearby counties. The group has shrunk quite a bit. We now have ~20 people on our team. They all go off and do their own work. They have their own sources. On and on. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. We had therapists, physicians, and cops in our group.
So when you are saying, “No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents,” do you think it’s possible that a team of 200 or 20 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? Something to think about.
Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. Got it? Instead of bashing us, why don’t you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? Are they deliberately lying to us? If so, why? Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? Why would we do that? We don’t do that on here and never have. For one, it’s a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist, among other things.
This Case Is Over – There’s No Need to Speculate about Many Relevant Facts about BG or about What Happened During This Crime
For the moment at least, LE definitely has a prime suspect who they think committed this crime and they now suspect he committed other murders. There is only one correct POI and his name is Mr. X. Why not follow what LE has determined? All of your other POI’s and endless silly speculation are junk. Really none of it is true. There’s no need to speculate anymore. We know that LE has a suspect, so there’s only one person people should be suspecting.
We also now know a number of proven facts about what happened in this crime, including the behavior of Mr. X in relation to the crime and why LE suspects him. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. The motive was sexual. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide.
We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life.
These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG:
Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime:
Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown.
Members Only jacket, blue.
Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s – Dad jeans.
Indiana Packers boots.
Camouflage hunting cap on head.
Go Pro camera on waist.
Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives in it.
White scarf around his face, covering the lower half of his face.
Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.
Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.:
Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Delphi, Indiana and several other small towns in Indiana from at least 1984-2021. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum.
Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse aligned with Tyson Foods there. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Homeless for a period in the 2000’s, where he resided at a homeless shelter.
Education history: Primary and junior high unknown.
Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85.
Age at time of crime: 49-50 (uncertain).
Present age: 53-54 (uncertain).
Hair color: Dark brown.
Facial hair: Goatee or trimmed beard.
Height: Approximately 5’8.
Weight: Approximately 180.
Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14.
Sexual object orientation: Heterosexual.
Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 2011. Recently moved to Monticello, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. Lists a manufacturing business or factory as place of residence.
Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. Worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. Afterwards possible owner-operator of trucking business.
Occupation: Possible owner-operator of long-haul trucking business in recent past. Present occupation unknown, but recently raised goats on his property.
Distance of residence from crime scene: Less than 2 miles.
Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. He was friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. Frequently hunted deer on Ron’s land. He was clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand.
Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together.
Children: Two daughters, one aged ~s22, another aged ~30. Ages approximate.
Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, very close, she is very fond of him.
Relationship with older daughter: Unknown.
Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. What that has to do with anything is not known. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly.
Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter.
Specific Information about the Crime Confirmed to Us by the Police
That said, the following very controversial information about the Delphi Murders was given to us directly by the police.
Numbers 1-4 were told to us by an Indiana detective, but we don’t want to say where he’s located. He didn’t work on the case, but he has a particular interest in crimes against minors, especially violent crimes against minors.
Number 5 was told to us by an Indiana detective who worked in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them.
Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to us by a sheriff in a nearby county.
Both girls were posed. Keep in mind that they did not say how they were posed, if they were posed in a sexual manner, etc.
Dolls were scattered about the crime scene. There were quite a few of them. Our police source told us, “There were so many dolls scattered around that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill store and bought a bunch of dolls.” This also answers questions about why the cops have been using phrases like “odd,” “peculiar,” “strange,” not your average crime scene,” “many signatures,” etc. It fits right in with all of that.
A bottle of toilet cleaner was found at the crime scene. Presumably it was used to throw bleach over everything, which solves the riddle of why no usable DNA was collected in this case.
The girls were “violated with inanimate objects.”
Sticks, twigs, and branches were jammed into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. Presumably this is what the “violated with inanimate objects” statement above refers to this. Sources:A narcotics detective in Indiana and a close associate of a detective working on the case.
One girl was pregnant, just barely pregnant. This is one very old rumor that started up within a few weeks of the murder. The first person who told me that was a middle aged woman who lived in the area. Just saying that for everyone who accuses me of making this up. This rumor just would not die. It kept popping up over and over, so I had to keep reporting it. We were never sure if it was true or not, so it was always just another unverified rumor.
I didn’t want to bring this rumor up because I’ve caught so much crap for it but I felt I had to because an Indiana LE officer affirmed to us that this rumor was true. If police had not verified this rumor for us, I wouldn’t be bothering with it because it’s brought me nothing but trouble. But when we get information straight from the police, we feel we must report it. This is not a rumor I relish reporting. Trust me.
His exact quote was, “One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy.” He did not state which girl it was, and we are not sure ourselves. We have an idea which girl it might be, but until we can get a good source on that, we are not going to upset people even more by naming the girl. We think that if this rumor is true, one of the girls was 6-8 weeks pregnant, when pregnancy is hard to diagnose but can be confirmed on autopsy. Specifically, there will be a thickening of the walls of the uterus that can be determined at this time.
All guardians of the girls seem to think this would be impossible based on these girls having almost no experience with males. Well, they need to disabuse themselves of that notion. Our information is that at least one girl was sexually active, and one of the girls was 13-14 going on 20, if you get the picture. Let’s just say she was growing up awful fast. We will not say which girl or girls is being discussed above.
People are furious with us over this rumor because they say we are sullying these girls’ reputations, thereby disqualifying them for posthumous sainthood. We do not feel that inexperienced 13-14 year old girls have some sort of purity that can be dirtied, nor do we feel that a girl this age sullies her reputation by engaging in PIV sex. People who think like this are prudes and Puritans. We do not feel that it is immoral for 13-14 year old girls to have PIV sex or to get pregnant. It’s stupid for them to get pregnant, but it’s not immoral. ~15% of girls that age, and probably more, are already having PIV sex. Source:A sheriff’s officer in a nearby county.
Specific Information about the Crime Confirmed to Us Via Official Case Document(s) in Our Possession
For more information on these document(s), see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. Although we only have photocopy(s) of these document(s), we believe they are genuine. The document(s) list a number of items that LE is looking for in this case.
A pair of binoculars. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerr’s testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime.
Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to one of the girls’ phones after the crime occurred are true. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victim’s phone is proven. This proves more of Leigh Kerr’s testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girl’s phones after the crime.
43 seconds of audio. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. But how could they possibly know this? Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls’ phones after the crime.
A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed.
Knives. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives.
Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. The document(s) state that the wound to Libby was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killer’s clothes in blood.
Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM.The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. As you can see, the numbers are the same. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental.
Some Aspects of the Crime Scene Not Verified by LE But Instead Verified by Two People Working Independently and Coming to the Same Conclusion, One Sleuth and One Witness
Those aspects of the crime are the following:
Both girls were posed unclothed below the waist with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing.
There is a knife sticking out of either Libby’s shoulder or the log next to her.
There is some sort of a large object, apparently some sort of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. That is the statement from the woman on the search time. While I see a giant plush bear, that’s insane, so I will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement in the first sentence.
We feel that these rumors are validated because we saw these things in the crime scene photos, and at the same time, a woman who was a member of the search team also reported these same things. Neither of us knew about each other’s research. Instead we arrived at our conclusions independently. What are the odds that we both made up these very specific lies on our own? Almost zero. That’s good enough for us to be probative.
Interpretations of Some Aspects of the Crime Scene Photos Now Proven (Crime Scene Now Proven to Be Actually That)
The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. Nevertheless, two things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have now been completely proven (see the section above), so the fact that these are crime scene photos and part of our interpretation of them is at least partially proven correct.
Rumors That Are Now Confirmed Via Indiana LE
LE Believes Mr. X is BG
Via our detective source in Indiana, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. All other POI’s are pretty much dropped or cleared. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever.
It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I don’t have to go to the police. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory
Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. They’re not looking at anyone else. They think he did it. End of story.
LE Believes that Bridge Guy (Mr. X) Is a Serial Killer and Was Also Responsible for the Evansdale Murders
Via our detective source, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. We believe he is currently the main LE suspect in the Evansdale Murders. Much more on that below.
LE Believes There Are Similarities Between the Evansdale and Delphi Double Homicides
Via our detective source in Indiana, we have learned that in both crimes:
There was posing. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE continues to believe that they were posed.
Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around.
The bodies were dumped near water.
A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene.
LE Says the Delphi Crime Scene Had Many Dolls Scattered Around
Via our detective source in Indiana, are now able to verify that dolls were scattered around on the ground at the crime scene of the Delphi Murders. And not just one, two, or three dolls. More than that. Like a number of them. Our detective source said, “It was like he went to Goodwill and bought a bunch of dolls there.” The dolls were of all types and are dressed in all sorts of different ways. We assume they were barbie doll size and type. However, they did not mention dolls hanging from trees, so this part of the rumor is not confirmed, with some suggestive evidence it is true.
LE Says Both Girls Were Posed in Delphi
Via this detective in Indiana, we also learned that both girls in the Delphi Murders were posed. However, they said nothing more than that, and they did not say that they were posed sexually, just that they were posed.
LE Says BG Used a Bleaching Agent, Specifically Toilet Cleaner, and Threw It Over Everything at the Crime Scene
In addition, this detective in Indiana told us that a bleaching agent was used at the scene. The detective felt it is not bleach per se but toilet bowl cleaner. They said he sprayed it all over everything important at the scene. You can see what appears to be a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in BG’s left pocket in a blowup image. We believe that is a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner, and some of us have believed this for a long time, particularly a physician who is a member of our team. Yes, insane discredited liars like us have physicians as part of our team.
LE Says Both Delphi Victims Were Sexually Assaulted or “Violated with Inanimate Objects”
In addition, this detective in Indiana told us that both girls in Delphi were “violated with inanimate objects.” Those were their exact words. We now have seven sources telling us that sticks, twigs, etc. shoved into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. While our detective source did not specifically talk about twigs, etc., they did say that there were sexually abused by some objects or other. So it’s fact that the girls were violated with inanimate objects, and it’s probably also true that these objects were specifically sticks, twigs, and branches is apparently true, with two affirmations from LE detectives or people very close to LE detectives.
Unconfirmed Rumors Not Validated by the Police
However, other objections say we are claiming a lot of other things about this crime scene. Actually, these below are mostly unverified rumors with some probability of being true.The police did not verify any of the rumors below for us:
Not verified by police and hence mostly unconfirmed rumors:
Dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. Source:A female member of the search team.
A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Source:A female member of the search team.
A large stuffed bear or animal at the crime scene. Source:A female member of the search team. Also, many people say that they can see one clearly on blowups of crime scene photos.
Any cause of death or injury to either girl. Sources: Variety of unverified sources. Sources for cause of death of one victim: A conversation with one girl’s guardian and a photograph of this victim’s funeral, which we have chosen not to release, backing up the guardian’s statement.
Girls posed in a sexual manner at the crime scene, specifically with open legs. Sources:A female member of the search team and we were able to clearly see it on crime scene photos. This rumor is considered verified.
Phallic objects placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of both girls at the crime scene, specifically a log and a doll, to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. Source:A female member of the search team.
A knife plunged into either Libby’s neck or the log next to her. Libby’s hand wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she is stabbing herself. Sources for first part of rumor:A female member of the search team. Also, we were able to clearly see it on crime scene photos. This part of the rumor is considered verified. Source for second part of rumor:A female member of the search team.
Rumors About the Crime Scene Not Verified by Indiana LE and Hence Still Mostly Unconfirmed, with Varying Confidence Levels
Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as:
The presence of a giant stuffed bear. Source: A female member of the search party.
Presence of a crucifix. Source: A female member of the search party.
Presence of a white sheet with a smiley face on it that may or may not be hanging from a tree. Source: A female member of the search party.
Dolls hanging from trees. Source: A female member of the search party.
Girls being posed in a sort of sexual tableau. Source: Leigh Kerr.
Specifically, girls legs being spread as a sexual posing. Source: A female member of the search party.
A knife plunged into Libby’s shoulder or the log next to her with her hand wrapped around the knife so it looks like she is stabbing herself. Source: A female member of the search party.
Phallic objects, in this case a log and a doll, being placed between the girls open legs perpendicular to their genitals to create the impression of being penetrated by these objects. Source: A female member of the search party.
A series of events where Abby screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Source: Leigh Kerr.
Stabbing of Abby in the neck artery at some point after the above events. Source: Leigh Kerr.
But to be fair, they never said that any of these things were not were not at the crime scene or that those events did not happen. Instead they simply didn’t mention them because we never asked about them. So LE didn’t say that these rumors were true, but they did not say that they were not true either. These rumors are simply inconclusive at the moment, with some suggestion that 1-8 may be true due to testimony from a female member of the search team.
More Weirdness Abounds: 2/13, 2:13, and 2-13
This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. In the document(s) we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13.
2/13, 2:13, 2-13. What is this guy, another Zodiac? Is he into numerology? Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses.
It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. And two girls were abducted there also. 2-13 again.
The DNA and Fingerprint Questions
As we noted, LE already has a principal suspect in the crime. And his DNA is found in the forest all around the crime scene. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening.
Conceivably, he could have missed the girls while searching the night before, in which case his DNA would be in the area.
His DNA in the forest could also be a result of his being part of the search team that found the girls.
Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable.
We keep hearing over and over, “DNA, DNA, DNA.” We think this is a whole lot about nothing. As noted above, BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene. Well, there goes your DNA. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. Kelsi has been cleared.
There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. That’s not very many. Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers.
These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court.
In other words, the whole DNA question seems to be a gigantic red herring if the rumors are true. LE are being coy about whether they have DNA or not, but that’s probably just another ruse. They don’t want to show their hand to the killer and let him know if they have DNA or not. I think people need to stop talking about DNA in this case. It’s a dead end.
About those fingerprints.
LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. They don’t say where they collected it from, but that’s an important question. Also, smudged prints are of very dubious value. They’re generally unusable. I wish people would stop talking about fingerprints.
The Lady Walking Her Dogs at the Bridge at 12:30 PM on the Day of the Murders
This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, met BG somewhere, possibly on the south side of the bridge, and even had a brief conversation with BG. However, this information does not seem to be coming from LE.
Instead it is coming from Delphi podcaster Anthony Greeno, a dubious man and apparent con artist with a rap sheet so long it fades into the horizon when you try to read it. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong. It means to consider information coming from him with a lot of caution.
This woman was apparently a discovery of Greeno’s. Ok, wait. Greeno finds this woman but LE never did? She approached Greeno but she didn’t approach LE? My smellometer is registering stinky.
Furthermore the woman has since gone into hiding, possibly because of people bothering her, or maybe because she is afraid BG is going to kill her. Anyway, she’s not talking. Before she departed us though, she did inform us that she could not identify what the man she met looked like. Except she was sure he was BG. Now wait a minute. I’m kind of thinking this eyewitness account ain’t making it to the witness stand, ya know?
Obviously this is very much an unconfirmed rumor though everyone is treating it as if it’s the word of God. I beg to differ. If anyone has any more information on this odd rumor, please let me know in the comments or in my email. Obviously if we can place BG at the bridge at 12:30 PM, that changes everything.
Quit Referencing LE’s Statements at the 2019 Press Conference (The “Fakeference”) As Factual
Although we do not have any evidence that this is true, we believe that the 2019 Press Conference was a gigantic ruse. We believe they already had a main suspect at the time and they thought he was going to be at the meeting. So the meeting was designed to trick him. The entire meeting was meant for the consumption of one person, Mr. X.
Notice that LE told the public to stop focusing on the old BG and to focus on the New BG instead. The new BG was said to be the man who carried out the murders – he was BG. They also said that BG was 18-40 years old. Anyone with any sense can see, intuitively, that BG cannot possibly be the young man in the sketch, nor can he be 18-40 years old.
BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. You can tell by many things – gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. LE actually believes BG is 49-50 years old. If LE actually believes that BG is 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man. Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Easy, they were lying!
LE also brought up the unknown vehicle (possibly a white truck?) seen at the CPS building. The message here to Mr. X is clear – LE has gone off on a completely different tangent and is not looking at you at all anymore. Instead these idiot cops think some kid in a white truck did it. What a bunch of idiots!
Not the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. Some kid.
Not the orange truck of the main suspect. Of course not! Instead, a probably nonexistent white truck at the CPS building.
You’ve thrown the cops off your tail, Mr. X! Good job!
And at the end, Carter says, “He may even be in this room right now,” and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. The cops are wrong again. They think some fool on the other side of the room did it! Idiots!
The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. The sketch of the younger man appears to have been the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat.
And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he uses to snare victims.
And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is “both sketches at once,” obviously.
Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. This was done to get Mr. X to think, “LOL they don’t think I did it. They think this stupid catfish boy did it ha ha. Let them go on a wild goosechase after someone who doesn’t exist!” Once again, this was done to get Mr. X to think that they had lost his tail and were running off in the wrong direction against a completely different suspect.
Granted, we don’t have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerr’s statements. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other sources such as LE statements to us, official case documents, two sources arriving at the same conclusion independently (a near impossibility if they were both making up the same lie. Nevertheless, we do feel that Leaker’s notion that this was all a big ruse rang true for us and sent us off on on our investigation, with the help of the notorious Godsey I might add.
We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Can we prove it? Nope. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occam’s). Put the competing theory to the logic test. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? Get real. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. Hence, following Occam’s, our theory is the best explanation of the facts.
Mr. X’s Employment at a Packing Plant in Indiana and Possible Connection to the Evansdale Murders Verified by Article in the Indiana Star
Via the Indiana Star (in an undated article that we cannot find at the moment but nevertheless believe exists), Mr. X ‘s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked “familiar,” and the walk was dead on. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on the packing plant there.
Many people from the Delphi area went over to Evansdale to work on this project. They appear to have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and were shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa.
If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at Tyson Foods in Logansport, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant in Waterloo, near Evansdale.
We don’t know what his job was there, but if it was slitting the throats of screaming, squealing pigs on ropes swinging towards him with a knife so huge that it looks like a sword as is done at some slaughterhouses, we would say a job like that would be right up BG’s alley. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives, his preferred weapon. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. And humans are animals too.
The Mystery of BG’s Indiana Packers Boots
There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE, who faked a bomb threat in order to raid the place. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, “Oh, this is nothing. Don’t pay any attention to that.”
It turns out that BG’s shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldn’t have gotten wet at all.
However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. There is evidence that he worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport during that period.
Which begs the question of if Mr. X is BG, how on Earth did BG come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he may well be wearing during his crime?
Weird Behavior of Mr. X Surrounding His Truck at the Crime Scene
We now have a better time frame for Mr. X’s truck being parked at the cemetery. Note that it was parked in head first. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. We don’t know why he asked permission to search Ron Logan’s land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team.
Not only that, but Mr. X’s alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends.
He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. We doubt if she did contact his wife. They weren’t that close.
After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but what’s the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? We would say it is low.
He parked 1,000 feet away from Ron’s door, almost a quarter mile away. Why didn’t he pull up to his front door? We don’t know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally don’t park a quarter mile away and hike in. We park right at the front door.
We also don’t know what he was doing searching down there that night. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. However, this early searching meant that he could use his “lost my keys” excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were foundbecause he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evening’s search.
It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. That’s a full 18 hours. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? It doesn’t seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time.
We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects.
Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. If he didn’t have his keys, he could not move his truck. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Did he eat? Where did he get the food and what was the food? Did he sleep? If so, where and when? Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? That would have been quite a problem. It doesn’t seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason.
But it’s even worse than that.
Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys?
We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. He stayed to guard his truck. We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there.
Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. I’m sure that was a LOL feeling for him. “These idiot cops. They’re swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards can’t figure this out.” We think he likes to fool and troll LE. “I’m fooling the cops, ha ha!” is the thinking.
Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? He had his keys with him, so why didn’t he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldn’t because he had lost his keys? LE asked him to move the vehicle. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him.
Three problems with that story:
He never lost his keys.
He never called the wife to ask her to bring a spare set.
There was no spare set in the first place.
At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. X’s wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X intothe sealed off areabecause she’s bringing Mr. X his keys. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up.
LE must have been getting exasperated with Mr. X by this time. Someone, probably LE, called to have Mr. X’s truck towed. Mr. X just stood there and let them tow his truck away. He probably went back to retrieve it later on with his “spare set” (actually the real set he never lost) and drove it back home. Unfortunately, Mr. X’s truck was never searched. We believe there may have been incriminating evidence in there.
After all of this, a fake cover story was put out that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Actually, that is correct because they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! But our critics think this means the story about him losing his keys is fake. Mr. X’s younger daughter insists that he never lost his keys. His wife now echoes in. As far as she is concerned, he never lost his keys. Becky Patty is also saying he never lost his keys.
However, Becky is saying two different things – first that he lost his keys and later that he didn’t lose his keys. We have a screenshot of Becky Patty texting Mrs. X to ask why she said he never lost his keys when he did. So another story is going out that he did lose his keys.
See what is going on here? Multiple stories are floating around, probably not purposely. Some are contradictory. But the effect is to cause confusion. The more confused people are, the more someone can get away with a crime.
As far as validation of the rumors of Mr. X being parked at the cemetery at 6:30 PM, asking Ron Logan for permission to search his land, searching his land that evening with two other men, and leaving his truck sitting there for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found and another eight hours afterwards, we can’t. This is simply what we have been told, and we are sticking by it.
We have also been told that LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. LE doesn’t like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. We have been told that this is what made LE suspicious of Mr. X in the first place.
We are even being challenged on our reporting that Mr. X’s truck was boxed in by police at the time of the discovery of the bodies. But we have a photograph of his truck surrounded by police cars.
The story about his truck getting towed is also being challenged. We were told that his truck had been towed.
The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. But the scanner doesn’t say she came to bring the keys. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. We believe she never showed up, he never called the wife, never lost his keys in the first place, and there was no spare set. We believe this because this is what we were told.
Mr. X’s Traumatic Reaction upon Discovering the Bodies Appears Staged and Fake
Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Like a coward, we would add. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. We believe that those reactions were overblown. No one else reacted that way. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is.
So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victim’s grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also “staged.” In other words, they were faked. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else.
We Don’t Have a Copy of the Gag Order Supposedly Issued about the Towing of a Truck from the CPS Building on Either February 13 and 14
People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 13-14. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. We have no idea why the order was issued.
Nature of Case Document(s) in My Possession
We do indeed have document(s) from the case. A man was a suspect in this crime, and the document(s) are from LE’s investigation of him. The docs are his property. He ran them off for us and sent them to us in the mail. So it is true that we only have photocopies of these docs, not the real thing. But we believe our source, a man who lives in Delphi not far from the crime scene, sent us copies of the actual documents. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG.
There are signature(s) on the document(s). The sigs are from either LE, the judicial system, or both. We are not going to tell you what sort of document(s) we have. If you’re smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping.
The man who owns the documents is not happy with us going public with these docs. He doesn’t care that much about it in theory, but he doesn’t want to get uncovered revealing official case document(s) to the media. That’s why we’ve had to muddy up the nature of the document(s) themselves, how we obtained them, and how we received them. It’s an attempt to protect our source from being revealed. We confess that we do make up stuff about sensitive sources and documents. It’s all about protecting our sources. But we’ve never made up one single fact about this case in four years, despite what most of the Internet believes.
Nature of Mr. X’s “Sex Offense” from the 1980’s
Earlier we said that Mr. X had a conviction for a sex offense in the 1980’s when he was 16-26. On the other hand, other sleuths have come back and told us that Mr. X’s record is clean. That’s misleading. He has a conviction for statutory rape from 1982 in Illinois. He was 18 and the girl was 14.
The reason this offense is not seen on his record is because we believe he had it expunged. Expunged just means taken out of public records. LE still has access to the conviction. As far as how we obtained this information, we were told by a detective that Mr. X had this conviction. He told us it was in 1982. This is why we believe it occurred.
The idea that he was a “sex offender” in the 1980’s is a nothingburger. It’s just run of the mill statutory rape (which isn’t even rape) or as we prefer to call it, “illegal intercourse,” with a barely legal man and a teenage girl jailbait, which probably ought to be covered by Romeo and Juliet laws anyway.
Related to the Delphi Murders, as you well know, I am widely hated. People say have never been right even one time, lie about and make up everything I say and in general am not a credible source. I will use this piece as a general reference to my credibility instead of addressing it endlessly in every post.
However, they have been saying exactly this about many different things I ever written over the last 15 years, Consistently, I was shown to be right and they were wrong. Not one hater ever apologized and all continued to describe me as discredited and said that nothing I had ever said had been shown to be correct.
Particularly that I have no credibility and have never been right about anything. On the contrary I have been right about many things. I’m even correct about many of my political, philosophical, and other intellectual views because I think over all of these positions intensively before I make a decision about which position or philosophy to take.
As far as the matter at hand, many of my Delphi rumors have been proven correct, mostly correct, or somewhat correct over the years. When Leigh Kerr came out with his leaks from case documents, many of my haters on Reddit kept remarking at how similar Leaker’s shocking leaks were to and how closely they resembled many of the things I had been saying for years. Well, of course. It’s always like that. The thing is these same people who said so much of what I said was proven right are now saying I have no credibility and I’ve never been right about anything. See how people are?
I recently had a long relationship – mostly just a friendship – with a young woman aged 27-28. She was 30 years my junior. One thing she kept saying over and over is how wise I was and how I had so much wisdom. Of course. I have had other young people on the Net who called me “sensei.”
I am currently the chosen mentor of a few young men in their 20’s, though I don’t mentor them enough. They chose me as their mentor. And I have heard that there are young women whom I am a mentor to, all in their 20’s. They say I’m their hero, idol, or mentor. A man in India recently wrote me and said his father, a very learned man, read my stuff and said that it was most wise and correct view of life he’d ever read in 60 years.
I attracted a huge legion of haters that grew and grew as I got more and more famous, well, Net-famous anyway. Related to this website and the articles I wrote, I have had three offers to be on TV and one offer to be in a documentary movie in Canada. One of the shows that wanted me on was Inside Edition. Yes, Inside Edition invited me on their show. All of you haters out there – how many of you have been offered to appear on the famous TV show Inside Edition? Not one of you.
I’ve been interviewed once on real radio and several times on Net radio, often for a full hour. These have ceased because the politics of the site and mine have drifted apart.
I can’t believe how many well-known people are familiar with this website. I recently had an offer to interview a TV-famous talking head pundit who has been on TV, the radio, and podcasts many times. He has written a few books proving that Republicans have been stealing our elections with voting machines for decades. He asked the name of my site and I told him and he said, “Oh yes! Great website! I’ve read it.” What? What? This famous guy who writes books and goes on TV reads my website? But he wasn’t the first.
I don’t know it requires to be a “professional freelance journalist,” but I would say that anyone with a BA in Journalism who has a blog qualifies. See here on Rational Wiki, where the excellent authors of this website refer to me as a freelance journalist.
Possibly the earliest reference to an “alternative left” comes from the blog of freelance journalist Robert A. Lindsay in August 2015. Lindsay, describing some on the far-left moving away from identity and social justice politics and moving towards focusing more on Economic Populism, proposed the alt-left as a “mirror” of the alt-right and described it as left-wing on economics and right-wing on social issues.
In general the “Alt-Left” could be considered more radical than the “Realist Left”, being to their right on social issues and to their left on most everything else.
It has also been said that I am not a “legitimate” journalist. Look. I graduated from J-School. If you’re doing journalism, you’re a journalist. Julius Stryker was a journalist, an ugly one yet still legitimate. He was hanged for his journalism. Der Strumer was a magazine, a legitimate magazine.
There are no legitimate and illegitimate journalists, newspapers, or magazines. There are only journalists, newspapers and magazines. If they exist they are legitimate.
Really all bloggers who are writing about topical events are journalists. Are they professionals? I have no idea, but some of the better ones may as well be. It really doesn’t matter whether a journalist is paid or not. Does it matter whether an artist’s work sells or not? Does it matter whether a musicians is in an actual money-making band. Does it matter if a writer’s work is published or unpublished? Not really. Plenty of great artists who never sell their stuff or make a nickel off of it.
Also I have published numerous pieces for money in magazines and small local papers. I have even published short fiction in literary magazines. In addition, I recently published a chapter in an academic book on Linguistics published out of a university in Turkey. It took me five years to write it. I had to make it through two peer reviews with the top names in the field and it passed. So, yes, I am a published author.
I also write for peer reviewed academic journals. In addition, I have refereed for a journal. That means serving on the peer review board. The field I published in is Linguistics.
Yes, I was an assistant editor of a large magazine for a while, but that was 40 years ago.
My enemies trash my writing skills but the general opinion is that I am very good. They’ve been saying this since I was seven years old, believe it or not. I started a novel at age nine. In particular, I do not see many grammatical or spelling errors in my work. This is another accusation. My writing has better punctuation and spelling that most people I write to on the Net.
Since my enemies insist that I am seriously mentally ill, I may as well come clean. I’ve been diagnosed probably ~30 times over the years by clinical psychologists and psychiatrists. It is true that I do have a mental disorder, and I do take psychiatric medication for it. Not that there’s any shame in that, despite what my enemies think. I have been diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, which is an anxiety disorder. Most people with OCD are not crazy and do not appear crazy. Maybe a bit distracted. Maybe a little nervous like most anxiety disorder types. Most people I meet don’t treat me like I’m nuts. I don’t say weird things or engage in strange behavior. I’m the most normal guy around.
Furthermore, I’m pretty shy, so I don’t even talk much, and when I do, I have a very soft voice. If you meet me, I look like this brainy nerd soft spoken intellectual college professor guy with preppy clothes. Some people from the Net – my fans – came out to meet me and they were shocked at how introverted I was. I pretty seem like this nicest guy you’ll ever meet. This is of course the complete opposite of how my enemies describe me. If you told people who know me all the crazy stuff my enemies say about me, they would probably fall over laughing because I’m not anything like that.
I do not have any personality disorder on Axis 2. My personality is healthy. I don’t have any issues with sociopathy. I’m not narcissistic at all, but I do have high self-esteem, which is not the same thing.
I generally do not have any serious mood disorder, but I do feel a bit down a lot. I doubt it meets criteria for anything. I don’t suffer from mania.
I don’t have any psychotic disorder and I never have. I’ve never been psychotic for a day in my life.
Perhaps my writing rambles a bit. Who knows? A lot of us writers ramble on. It’s not pathological and it’s not even a sign of bad writing. Read James Joyce, Virginia Woolf, Thomas Wolfe, or William Burroughs some time. Some of the greatest authors of all “rambled.” We ramble because we write too much. That’s why they have these people called editors. Because most of us serious writers ramble and go on and on and write forever, as in way too much. Editors exist to cut the typical good writers prose down to size.
I’ve already stated many times that I never made up a lie one time on here. I am a professional, and this is a violation of professional ethics.
Many critics think it’s ridiculous that I get access to good sources, official documents, including confidential sources with important people who give information that is secret or supposed to be under wraps. I was trained to do this. I know how to interview and how to acquire, cultivate and keep sources around. I know how to get secret and official documents that are supposed to be confidential.
I talk to people all the time who tell me they will get in trouble if it gets out that they talked to me. I honor strict confidentiality and will do anything to protect my sources. So, yeah, I do know how to get “inside sources,” “special sources,” etc. I’m trained to do that. I’m sort of an investigative reporter because I specialize stories where a lot of the information is supposed to be secret. I’ve also broken some pretty huge stories that even caught the attention of documentary film makers.
In addition, I founded a brand new political movement, so I am a political activist. At one time this movement had 18,000 members on Facebook groups. It’s a movement with its own carefully thought out political philosophy with position statements, manifestos, etc. A political scientist, a professor at a university in Poland, found out about my movement and wrote a couple of articles about it for political science journals. So it was important enough to get written up in the journals.
Long, runs to 60 pages. I am very sorry, but I am a graphomaniac. I may divide it into two posts next week. You may wish to print it out for easier perusal.
April 8-9 Update: This post has received a massive update with new information on Mr. X’s past and the stunning revelation that LE suspects BG of the Evansdale Murders too!
Warning:What follows is horrifying information about the sexually-motivated double murders of two young teenage girls. There’s no way to pretty this stuff up, and if I did, I’d just be lying anyway.
Here we go with another update. Once again, I would like to thank R.v.S. and C.A., two of my very best friends who I have known for what seems like my whole life, or maybe it was just since college. I know these guys so well that sometimes I wonder if we are all the same person!
People are making statements that the statements in this article are due to me having “inside information.” This is accompanied by a lot of snarkery and hostility.
The information below comes from three sources.
The first source is from a female member of the search party who saw the crime scene and discussed it with me.
The second source is photocopy(s) of official document(s) from the investigation that I managed to obtain.
The third source is a retired LE officer who who dug into the case of Mr. X for us. He still has a lot of current LE contacts, and this is where his information comes from. So this source is really current LE.
You chose to lend credence to Robert Lindsay, who has literally confessed to being a pedophile.
What in God’s’ name is he talking about?! Of course I’ve never “confessed to being a pedophile.” Why would I confess to being something that I’m not? A pedophile is a man who is maximally attracted to girls under 13 and has little to no interest in mature females. Anyone who knows me knows that’s not the case with me. I love grown women. I can’t get enough of them. Little girl children? Ew.
Teenage girls are another matter, but that’s not pedophilia. I haven’t had anything to do with a teenage girl under 18 since I was 21, 42 years ago. I did have sex with underage teenage girls 14-17 for four years during the ages of 18-21. More than I can count. I stopped at age 21 because I didn’t want to go to jail. You want to hold that against me? Be my guest. You want to call me “pedophile” based on that? Knock yourselves out.
I don’t approve of adult men having sex with teenage girls under the age of consent (AOC) because it’s illegal. In most US states, the AOC is 16 or 17. It’s 18 in a few states. My position is that in this environment, I advise all adult men of any age to not mess with girls under the AOC. It’s not worth it, guys. If these female minors are over the AOC, help yourself. Grab all you want. Problem is that while 16 year old looks fantastic, when she opens up her mouth, she sounds like a 10 year old. That might put me off right there.As I get older, I appreciate the wonders of older women more and more. In a lot of ways, they are better than young women.
Apparently he is referencing this:
I was reported to the police probably 60 times for being the murderer or for being a “pedophile” (I wasn’t aware that was against the law).
According to Matt Sullivan, people in his wanted to hang me on the spot for this comment. I said that being a pedophile isn’t against the law. That’s a fact. Apparently that comment means “I confessed to being a pedophile.” One reason I quit doing these Delphi articles is because I got tired of dealing with idiots like this all the time.
Yes, I’m a Real Freelance Journalist
Among the many insane arguments against me, one is that I “pretend to be a journalist.” I’m actually trained as a journalist. I have a BA in Journalism from a state university in California. I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. Furthermore, I am a now a published author, having written a chapter in an academic Linguistics book on Turkic Linguistics published out of Turkey.
I don’t know what it takes to be a “real” journalist . But I would think a BA in Journalism would suffice.
If you are wondering how I come up with all these “inside sources,” keep in mind that I was trained how to obtain confidential documents, protect and cultivate sources, and do interviews, and I am very good at all of those things. There’s an art to this. We were also taught to source and label our sources things properly, and we had to take a semester in the libel law which was modeled on a law school course.
No, My Blog Was Not Shut Down by WordPress Due to My Delphi Reporting
A man named Eric Alter claimed to have gotten an injunction against my blog with WordPress. Supposedly this led to it being shut down. Mr. Alter filed no injunction against this blog with WordPress. WordPress took no action against my website in response to Mr. Alter’s complaints, assuming he made any to them.
Next, there are stories that this site got shut down by WordPress because I was making up lies about this case. That’s not so. WordPress never uttered one peep to me about my Delphi coverage. The site was shut down by WordPress, but it was because I violated their Terms of Service in a post I made about feminists. I didn’t even know what WordPress‘ TOS were, as I had never read them.
Dead Rumors and Screams in the Night
More BS. There is a report on Reddit that I am still pushing a theory that the girls were garroted. It is said that I “made up” this story. True, that was a rumor floating around for a while, but we junked that years ago. The theory that the girls were garroted is a dead rumor, dead for over four years now.
There is a report on Reddit that I reported a scream was heard in the night. They say I “made up” this story. For the hundredth time, I’m a professional journalist, and I don’t make up facts about this crime case. That’s a career-ender and I take my journalistic ethics very seriously. I do not recall ever reporting such a thing.
However, I have now seen references to reports of screams heard by the bridge at 2 AM. It is also said that Libby’s phone, previously dead, started pinging again right around this time. That means someone had Libby’s phone and turned it on or recharged it after the charge went out. If the latter is true, it is quite remarkable, but both the screams and the phone pinging at 2 AM are unverified rumors at this point.
On the other hand, Leigh Kerr did report that there is a scream on Libby’s audio recording followed by a thud. The theory is that this is Abby screaming right before BG hits on her on the head with a blunt object, no doubt the butt of that gun he has on him. Poor girl! So it turns out that if Leaker is correct, and I regard him as credible, there was indeed a scream soon after the girls were abducted, probably at the crime scene.
I can think of how this scene might have unfolded:
He got them to the kill zone, and he had them both on the ground with their hands behind their backs handcuffed. We know this because of the dirt under Libby’s fingernails. He was controlling them with the gun in his right pocket. He said you scream or yell one time, and I shoot both of you. They’re scared so they keep quiet. Poor Libby was thrashing around, this is what caused the dirt and bruising under her nails. Suddenly he was on top of her and slit her throat so deeply he almost cut it off. Poor thing lived for maybe five seconds and then died.
Abby was on the ground too, handcuffed. Poor Abby saw this horror in front of her face. Face it, this is as bad as it gets – watching your bestie murdered while you watch. It doesn’t get any worse than that. Abby screamed. BG was on top of her very quickly and hit her over the head with the butt end of the gun. She went out cold. The blow did not kill her though. He figured out that she wasn’t dead. So he took a knife and stabbed her in the artery in her neck, killing her.
He put them both out of commission in seconds, and he killed both of them within a minute or two. He had to dispatch them quickly so they wouldn’t scream. He couldn’t keep them alive and tortured them, though he may have wanted to. The sexual thrill here was the homicide itself. He’s a lust murderer. Sadistic killers get a sexual arousal just from hurting people. It doesn’t have to be anything sexual. Later on he did sexual things with both bodies involving sticks and twigs.
We Don’t Fake Photos Here
There is a photo on Reddit of a Photoshopped up photo of BG. People on there are saying it came from my website. I don’t recall seeing it on my site but I put a lot of stuff up there. This is followed by an accusation that I “made up” this photo or deliberately altered it with a graphics program. Problem? I’m a terrible artist. I do not know how to use any graphics program. I’ve used a few of them, but I can barely do anything, maybe crop or rotate a photo and that’s it. Please stop saying that I manipulate photos about this case with graphics software. I don’t do any of the graphics work on my page. I have graphic artists who do that for me.
There is another accusation on Reddit that I manipulated a photo of BG to add in some cigarette smoke. We did run that photo. I just spoke to our graphics expert, and she told me she didn’t manipulate anything. She just applied some lighting filters.
I believe that does look like cigarette smoke over his left shoulder. We also thought we saw a smoldering cigarette in his mouth in another of her enhancements. BG was either smoking and leaving a smoke cloud or those are just some artifacts of the graphics software creating illusions. There’s no confirmation that BG was smoking a cigarette when he abducted those girls. There’s just an odd photo that could be anything.
Below is a capture from the same area as the photos below came from. The helicopter video where there is a circle of flashes going off. That’s clearly the CSI people photographing the scene. It can’t be anything else. The grabs below are from a Youtuber who is actually a theoretical physicist.
Note that the girl’s arms are raised on in a surrender position exactly as they are in the more cleaned up photos below. Also note that the girl’s legs have been spread by the killer, same as they are in the photos below.
One of my graphic artist is a woman. I know, I’m such a misogynist, huh? Actually many of my best sleuths down through the years have been women. Women excel at intuition and I think intuition is important for detectives. Women are lousy at logic as any man who’s had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end.
There is a charge from Reddit that we faked this image. We don’t fake images.
In the above photo, Libby’s right and left legs are marked. Also one of my graphics people labeled what he thinks is a large branch between this poor girl’s legs. This would follow from the report of the search party member below where she says that Libby had a log jammed up perpendicular to her crotch to make it seem as it was penetrating her sexually.
By the way, the man who did the labeling was a sheriff in a nearby county who joined our group incognito. So you can see we had active duty LE in our group working with us. This image is very poor, but it’s a match for the images below from the theoretical physicist.
Validation of My Reporting over the Years
One of the things people on Reddit are saying is that they were shocked at how closely Leaker’s revelations resembled things that I’ve been saying for years. Well, of course. We’re wrong a lot, sure. But here’s the thing. We’re also right a lot. I’m sure that if more information about this case comes out, more of the things we’ve been saying here for years are going to be shown to be true.
Clearing up Some Rumors
The Horrible Sticks and Twigs Rumor
I’ve been run through the grinder for years over this rumor, and I was trying to avoid it in this post, but I have no choice but talk about it. One rumor is either that one or more of the girls was impaled with a branch. That rumor started when a young man from Delphi published crime scene photos in the week after the murders. This is what he described, among other things. He also thought the murders had occult or Satanic overtones. That’s probably not true, but if you read about how the killer staged the crime scene, you might think that was the case.
This rumor was repeated later when a good source told me that poor Libby was impaled with a branch right below her solar plexus. Keep in mind that I have not been able to verify this rumor. But keeping in mind the insanity of the crime scene below, almost anything is possible with this depraved killer.
A better sourced rumor – but just as horrible – is that BG shoved twigs, sticks, and small branches into both girls’ vaginas and anuses. Terrible, huh? I presume he did this after they were dead, so at least they didn’t have to suffer this indignity. At this point, he’s also a necrophile, but a lot of these guys have necrophilic tendencies.
Thing is we were able to source this to two LE sources. The first was a local detective who was working on the case. He told someone close to him and they reported it on the Net. The second is another detective in a different area of LE. He verified the rumor, saying he had seen crime scene photos. And just recently, I got a report that several “insiders” had verified that this rumor is true. Also, Leaker said that the girls were not sexually assaulted with the killer’s body, implying that they may have been with inanimate objects. So now we have variations of this rumor verified at least eight times. That’s not conclusive, but it’s looking better all the time.
It’s been said that I made up this rumor as some sick fantasy of mine. First, I don’t happen to fantasize about this stuff. I don’t care what anyone thinks about, but homicidal sexual sadism isn’t my bag, sorry. Second, as I repeated above, I am bound by journalistic ethics not to make up lies out of whole cloth. That’s a death sentence in this business, and I take my ethics seriously, unlike increasing numbers of my degenerate colleagues.
Resetting Libby’s Phone
At first it was thought that Libby did this herself, possibly after being told to do so by the killer who was catfishing her on Snapchat. It has now been revealed that Mike Patty, her grandfather, did this for unknown reasons.
Yes, Abby Had a Cellphone on Her at the Time of the Crime
I reported the other day that BG videotaped his crime. I know from case document(s) I obtained that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, film, etc. that BG used in this crime. The only way LE could know that BG videotaped his crime is if the rumor about BG sending video of the crime to Abby’s phone after her death is true.
People on Reddit are attacking this report, saying that according to Abby’s mother, Abby didn’t have a phone. Problem is Abby’s mother didn’t know all sorts of things. She didn’t know that Abby had a boyfriend, and she sure did. We even know his name. Also several LE officials have made public statements that both girls had phones on them, most recently the fire chief on the HTN show.
Mr. X Did Not Touch the Bodies When He Discovered Them
There is an old rumor going around that Mr. X touched one or more of the bodies in the neck, looking for a pulse. Sadly, I may have reported that earlier. I now feel that’s a dead rumor. Neither Mr. X nor anyone else touched the bodies.
Rejoinders Aside, Now on to the Real Meat of the Post
LE May Have a Prime Suspect in the Delphi Murders, and His Name is Mr. X
If you followed Leigh Kerr’s leak on Reddit, Leaker said that LE has a prime suspect in this case. We will refer to him from now on as Mr. X. I don’t want to use his name or his initials. When discussing this man in the comments, always refer to him as Mr. X. Please refer to his wife as Mrs. X. Don’t use either his name or his initials. We have to be fair here. Leave this man alone if you know who he is. We aren’t vigilantes here in America. We’re better than that. Besides, who knows if he did it or not? You think he did it? Fine, prove it. See, you can’t. Welcome to America. This is the price you pay to live in a free country.
Leaker said that LE thinks Mr. X did it, but they don’t have enough evidence on him to take it to court.
In case you are wondering, there are cases like this all over the country. I can even think of some serials who are running around free where LE believes that they committed several homicides. One is named the Lewiston Killer. There is a child serial killer who has killed several little girls over the past 10-20 years. LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they don’t have enough on him to make a case. So he walks free. And these aren’t the only two.
A former girlfriend got shot in the head by her husband. He said she committed suicide but that was not possible, and further his behavior after he shot her was very weird. LE detained him for a while. Once he visited her at the hospital with LE, and he was chained to a room heater in the hospital room. I believe they detained him for a couple of weeks and released him. They didn’t have enough evidence against him to bring a case to trial.
The OJ Simpson case is also instructive.
Bottom line is murderers get away with it all the time in this country, and in a number of cases, LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they simply don’t have enough evidence to take it to court. DA’s won’t dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Otherwise the case never goes to trial. We have trial by jury in this country, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We can’t go around killing people because someone thinks they might have maybe killed someone.
Why Are People Going out of Their Way to Protect Mr. X?
There is a man named Jordan McCoy on Facebook pretending to be Leigh Kerr. In fact, McCoy doesn’t even exist. He’s just a sock for a guy named Scott Alexander, and Alexander isn’t Leaker either. Scott’s only purpose is to be to pretend he was Leaker in order to draw suspicion away from the prime suspect, Mr. X, for unknown reasons.
There are some locals who are going out of their way to protect Mr. X. They are insisting that he could not possibly have done it. Some of their behavior is downright weird. Perhaps they are doing this out of loyalty to their friend. That said, these protectors probably ought to be named because their behavior is pretty off.
Anthony Greenospends most of his time trying to deflect attention away from Mr. X. Greeno happens to be a hunting partner of Mr. X. I do not know why Greeno so vociferously defends Mr. X. Perhaps it is due to their friendship.
There is another very odd character named Caleb Bowlin, a Delphi resident. A lot of people are suspicious of him. He was 21 at the time of the crime, and he’s a dead perfect match for the second sketch. I don’t know what that means. He’s gone completely overboard defending Mr. X and saying he could not possibly have done it. At one time a couple of people were trying to go look at the crime scene, and he was literally blocking them with his body to keep them away. I don’t know why he is doing this. There is no evidence that this man is involved in this crime.
Bowlin presented himself to Leazenby’s office and told the sheriff that there were rumors going around that he was BG. Bowlin offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test. Leazenby said, “Caleb, if we ever need you for any of that, we’ll contact you.” Based on this, LE does not suspect Bowlin of being part of this crime.
Who Is Leigh Kerr?
The pastor of a small Pentecostal church from Lafayette, Joe Wampler, is Leigh Kerr. Leaker is the man who held a session on Reddit where he told people he had accessed case documents and he was going to leak details about the case. He was angry that the case had gone on this long with no resolution. He proceeded to tell quite a tale about what he had learned from these documents. His revelations are here. Leaker stirred up a huge storm and a large consensus is that he’s a liar and a fraud. I think that is incorrect. I regard him as credible for various reasons.
He posted accidentally under his real name and profile as if he were still answering questions as Leigh Kerr. His wife has indeed been traced back to a local courthouse worker. Rumor is she saw a lot of these documents and ran them off. I just spoke to a woman who knows this couple very well, and she insisted to me that this man is straight up man of God type. His word is good and his morals are strong. He’s the last person to make up stupid lies. He’s pure integrity, a class act.
Theory That BG Videotaped His Crime with a GoPro Camera and Sent the Photos to One of the Girls’ Phones after the Crime
Leaker also said that BG sent photos or videos to one of the girls’ phones after the crime. This has also been (somewhat) vindicated. These same document(s) in my possession say that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, and film in relation to this case. Obviously, LE thinks BG filmed his crime. Profiler John Kelly, who believes that Leaker should be at least given the benefit of the doubt until proven false, thanked Harvey Carroll, another good (albeit narcissistic) Delphi Murders podcaster, for his work on the BG photo in which Carroll found that BG is apparently wearing a Go-Pro camera. Kelly agreed that the photo does show BG wearing such a camera. I agree with Kelly and Carroll.
Attacking Leigh Kerr (Leaker)
Trashing Leigh Kerr, Part 1. On Reddit, people are saying that Leigh Kerr has been proven to be a fake and a liar. Leigh Kerr has not proven to be completely correct (though some of his testimony checks out), but hasn’t yet been debunked either.
No one knows anything about Leigh Kerr’s stories, but one of them, new information that BG had binoculars that he used in his ploy the capture the girls, has been validated. I have official document(s) which state that LE is looking for binoculars in relation to this case.
Trashing Leaker, Part 2. From Reddit, Leaker is accused of lying because in the part of the audio not released, BG can be heard telling the girls he’s railroad police, he spotted the girls trespassing with binoculars, the girls were were now under arrest for trespassing, and he’s now handcuffing them. Reddit said this could not be true because if it was, LE would have released it to the public.
First of all, this guy never read Leaker’s account in the first place. Because if he had, he would note that Leaker said that this account was only deciphered after long painstaking work with audio experts who managed to clean up the completed garbled audio on Libby’s phone. Even cleaned up, you can barely hear a thing. However, these experts transcribed what they thought was being said in this encounter. It is from this deciphering that LE concluded that the conversation above took place. Leaker said LE did not release it because one, even cleaned up, it’s a complete mess and undecipherable without a lot of expensive equipment, and two, they didn’t think it would be of any additional help to release it to the public.
No Such Crime as “Interfering with an Investigation”
No such crime as Interfering with an Investigation. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called “interfering with an investigation.” There have been calls for years to have me arrested on this fake crime too. We’ve succeeded in making half of life illegal so far in the land of the free (sic), but this isn’t really a crime. I think it is only a crime on the federal level, and it’s never used the way these people think think it is.
It’s a BS law, often used by the FBI and other feds when they want to take someone down but they can’t get anything on you. I don’t like the FBI. If the FBI wants to take you down, you go down. They will search through your life with a fine toothcomb, and if you do that with most people, you will find some idiot law someone broke somewhere somehow. So this is one of those fake crimes (like “Lying to the FBI” – another fake crime) that they use for political purposes. The only time I’ve ever seen it used was to charge someone in the recent Russiagate (a fake scandal about a fake event – something that never happened in the first place) prosecutions.
They charged someone with “interfering with an investigation” for destroying documents relevant to the case in order to avoid prosecution. In other words, destruction of evidence. As far as whether I am “interfering with an investigation,” let’s see what LE told me about my reporting on this case:
ISP: “We don’t care what you write. Go ahead and write whatever you want. And if you ever write anything sensitive that we want taken down, we will contact you, ok?” Phone conversation between me and and ISP detective, Spring 2017.
FBI: “We don’t care about Lindsay.” Conversation between FBI agent and a suspect when detaining him to get a DNA sample at an FBI office in Michigan, 2018.
Supporting Leigh Kerr
Backing up Leaker, Part 3. On Reddit, at least one poster defended Leaker, saying that they had been talking to people close to the Delphi investigation, and they backed up much of what Leaker said.
Specifically, his sources concurred that there was at least some luring of the girls to the site. Leaker said that Libby was catfished on Snapchat with the second sketch of the young man.
His sources agreed that Mr. X was someone that LE looked at very hard at least at one point if possibly not at the moment.
They also agreed with agreed that the girls were posed in a sexual tableau.
Abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect (Bad Idea)
Sleuths abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect. Mr. X’s daughter has made an appearance in Facebook groups, saying that he’s the greatest guy in the world, and he couldn’t possibly have done this. However, family members of a number of convicted killers, even serial killers, have said similar things. She also said her father never lost his keys. Becky Patty, who is a friend of Mr. X’s wife, said that Mrs. X told her that Mr. X did not lose his keys.
These comments from wife, daughter, and friends defending Mr. X and questioning the official narrative have caused a large group of sleuths abandon Mr. X as a suspect. As if a suspect’s wife and daughter would not be expected to vouch for him. And as it turns out, the fact that he didn’t lose his keys after all does not clear Mr. X from suspicion. In fact, it makes him even more suspicious.
More on Mr. X, the Possible Prime Suspect in the Case
First of all, as noted above, Leaker seems vindicated in part about Mr. X being the prime suspect in the case. A Reddit poster said he asked around to a number of Delphi “insider” types, and they told him that indeed LE had looked at Mr. X very hard as a suspect, if possibly not at the moment.
Beyond that, we have a retired LE officer working with us and we sent him to work with his LE colleagues on Mr. X. This man came back and told us that not only is Mr. X the prime suspect in these murders, but they also suspect him in other murders.
In my previous post, I talked about how Mr. X said he lost his keys during the search for the girls. That story has gotten completely garbled with Becky Patty, Mr. X’s daughter, and Mrs. X, Mr. X’s wife, all saying that Mr. X never lost his keys. The thing is that new information I got says that they are all correct! Mr. X indeed never lost his keys. But it’s worse than that.
First of all, Mr. X asked Ron Logan permission to search his land at 6:30 PM on February 13, three hours after the girls were murdered. Ron thought it was an odd request but he granted it because Mr. X was a neighbor who lived only 2 miles away. But there is a problem with Mr. X asking this permission. The Fire Department only announced the formation of a search party at 7 PM. Before that, nobody much even knew the girls were missing, although LE had been notified at 5:30 PM. The only people out searching were family and friends of the girls. No one else knew that the girls were even missing.
Which begs the question, How did Mr. X know that the girls were missing in the first place before anyone else did? Was he in the area when they went missing? That looks bad because his alibi said he was in another town altogether. If he was in another town at the time of the murders, when did he come home? And why, when he came back into town, did he decide to go to the bridge to look for the girls when he had no idea they were missing?
The only way this makes sense is if Mr. X was not in another town but was in the bridge area. But there goes his alibi. Now he’s in even more trouble. Furthermore, why on Earth did he specifically ask to search Ron Logan’s property, which is exactly where the girls were killed? Why did he park his truck hidden at the cemetery directly above the crime scene? Why didn’t he park at Ron’s front door if he wanted to knock and ask permission to search his land?
By 6:30 it was dark and it would have been hard to see the girls who were in a hidden ravine that was very hard to see. Also, two other men searched Ron’s land that night. They didn’t find the girls either, adding credulity to the notion that they were hard to see where they were in the dark.
Nevertheless, Mr. X’s alibi that he was out of town, came back into town and went to the bridge for no reason, and then decided to search for the girls without knowing they were missing obviously makes no sense.
Some Mr. X Background
Mr. X owned some property there where he raised goats and hunted deer, but I’m not sure what else he did. Mr. X has two children, a younger daughter who is a very out lesbian and an older daughter, about 30 and unmarried. He has been married to Mrs. X for some time, possibly 10+ years. She is 10 years younger than he is, an attractive woman.
Mr. X is a big fan of Harley Davidson motorcycles and an extremely avid deer hunter. We have not been able to find information about his employment at any time. His wife most recently worked at a bank, but she was caught stealing money from the bank two years ago and was fired.
He was born in 1965 in Illinois and is 55 years old and looks his age. He grew up in Illinois but moved to Indiana around 2000 at age 35. We know little about his life before 2000.
From 2000-2010, he moved around Indiana, moving about once a year to a new town. He settled in Delphi in 2011 and lived there for 10 years, mostly with his wife. In 2011-2012, he was separated from his wife and lived with a male roommate. He and his wife just moved early this year. I believe they now reside in Monticello. The latest I have heard is that they moved back to Illinois, but that may just be a rumor. He obviously thinks the heat is on him.
I have obtained a videotape of him playing with his granddaughters. His voice sounds a lot like BG’s, and he refers to his two young granddaughters as “guys.” In the videotape, his walk looks a lot like BG’s walk.
I have a photograph of him with his daughters from 2009 when they were girls. The older daughter looks remarkably like Libby German, and the younger daughter looks remarkably like Abby Williams in that photo. I’m not sure if that means anything. They are posing with their father next to the carcass of a deer he has shot.
He seems to have many friends in the Delphi area with the whole town on his friends page. I have a photo of him and Sheriff Tobe Lozenby posing with a hunting rifle, clearly a gag photo. Apparently he was close to Sheriff Lozenby at one point. Mr. and Mrs. X are close to the Pattys. Libby had met Mr. X a couple of times, but Becky Patty did not think Libby would recognize him. Becky is currently defending him, probably because he is a friend of the family.
Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. Perhaps he had seen her regularly and begun to have sexual and homicidal fantasies of her.
Around the time of the crime, Mr. X was about the same height and weight as BG. Since the murders, he has gained ~50 pounds. After the crime, he talked so much about the murders to anyone who would listen that people started to get suspicious of him. It is not known if any locals turned him in to the tipline. Mr. X owns a hunting cap that is a replica of the one worn by BG, but perhaps that is a common hat in the area. I have seen photos of him with jeans and a jacket almost exactly like BG’s jeans and jacket, but perhaps those are common garments among men in that area. He very closely resembles BG when his face is put side by side by BG’s. None of these things are incriminating enough to take a case to court.
Mr. X’s Wife Says Mr. X Fooled Her for Many Years until She Discovered He was a “Monster” and an “Evil Force”
The wife is a curious case. There is a rumor that she posted to Facebook that she thought she knew Mr. X, but she had discovered that he was a “monster.” I have not been able to find that post.
However, backing that up somewhat, I have screenshots of a woman, Ms. Y, who knew Mr. and Mrs. X for a long time. Ms. Y said she had suspected Mr. X from the very first day after the news about the lost keys and his truck being parked right above the crime scene came out.
Ms. Y described the couple as “very, very strange.” This tells me absolutely nothing about any human being. Instead I want to know precisely what it is about this couple that Ms. Y finds so strange. Anyway, it does add suspicion to Mr. X.
Ms. Y said that their marriage was a bit rocky, with a few wild fights and temporary breakups. Ms. Y said Mrs. X had made a series of very strange posts to Facebook about how she thought she had known someone all her life but it turned out she didn’t know them and that this person turned out be some sort of an evil force.
I believe that is a reference to Mr. X, as the”evil force” lines up with the earlier report that she said Mr. X was a “monster.” That Mrs. X had “known him her whole life” simply means that she was married to him for some time, probably over a decade. Marriages often seem to “last a lifetime,” even when they don’t.
So we can see that Mrs. X referred to Mr. X as an enigmatic person who fooled her into thinking he was ok for many years, but she had recently discovered that he was “a monster” and “a force of evil.”
If Mr. X is a psychopath (a possibility), then this report lines up perfectly. Bottom line is he would be fooling everyone. Everyone in town would think he was a standup guy, including the grandparents of girl he may have murdered himself. He was married for up to a decade to a wife before she was able to tear down his “mask of sanity.” See Harvey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity, 1947, the ultimate document ever written on psychopathy. They fool everyone for a long time, but after they have known them for some time, some people can uncover their true personas, which are nothing like their public images. “A force of evil” and “monster” are two terms people often use when they are able to take the mask off of a psychopath.
Mr. X’s Behavior on February 13-14, 2017
Mr. X has an alibi for the murders, that he was elsewhere in another town, when the murders occurred. Someone, possibly a friend, Mr. Z, was certain that they saw him elsewhere when the murders were committed. We don’t know who Mr. Z was. I say was because shockingly, Mr. Z is now dead. So Mr. X’s alibi is dead. That means that the alibi cannot be flipped anymore.
Curiously, Mr. X’s phone pinged the Child Protective Services building for several hours around the time of the murders. LE feels that the killer parked his car at the CPS building. No vehicle has yet been reported parked near the building. It would seem that Mr. X’s phone pinging the CPS building means he or his phone was there at the time, but Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere, and his phone was at his home pinging there looking for a signal. There are only two cell towers in town so that’s actually a possibility, albeit a remote one.
However, there is a report that an abandoned vehicle, possibly a white truck, was towed from the CPS building. There is currently a gag order imposed by the courts about the circumstances around this truck being towed.
Mr. X’s orange truck was parked hidden in the cemetery directly above where the girls were found. It stayed in this spot for at least the next 18 hours, from 6:30 PM until 12:30 PM the next day when the girls’ bodies were discovered. I say at least because no one knows exactly when Mr. X’s truck was first parked in the cemetery. Yes, it shows up there at 6:30 PM, but perhaps it had been parked there earlier without being seen.
Mr. X is also one of three people who discovered the bodies. Hence, Mr. X’s DNA is all around the crime scene as a discoverer of the crime. None of this DNA is usable in court. After he found the girls, Mr. X said called his wife and ran from the scene. Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. To me those two reactions seem pretty excessive, but that doesn’t prove anything. At 12:30 PM, the cemetery was filling up with police cars. Mr. X’s truck was in the way and was blocking in police cars.
Asked why he was parked there and if he would please move his truck, Mr. X stated that he had lost his car keys and he was going to call his wife to get her to bring a new set.
Three problems with that story.
Mr. X never lost his keys. They were in his pocket the whole time. He never called his wife to bring a spare set. Even worse, there was no spare set. Mr. X was later caught by LE in this lie about losing his car keys, and this is one of the things that provoked their interest in him. A tow truck came and Mr. X allowed his truck to be towed. He had to do this because he had to keep pretending that he had lost his keys, and obviously his wife had never shown up to bring a new one. No one knows what was in Mr. X’s truck at the time it was towed, and there’s no evidence that it was searched that day by LE.
I noted above that Mr. X’s truck was parked right above where the bodies were found for 18 hours starting at 6:30 PM February 13 until 12:30 PM February 14. For some time after 6:30 PM, Mr. X was presumably searching Ron Logan’s land.
Where was Mr. X between 6:30 PM Monday and 12:30 PM Tuesday? Did he stay out there next to his truck all night? Did he ever go home to his wife that night? We don’t knows the answers to those questions. His whereabouts during those 18 hours are a mystery. However, it is quite odd that his truck stayed right above the kill zone for 18 hours straight. What was point of leaving it there? He had his car keys. Why didn’t he drive it home after he finished searching Ron’s land Monday evening? None of this makes sense.
LE’s Investigation of Mr. X So Far
There’s no evidence that LE has ever served a search warrant on Mr. X, though they may have. They have his DNA. He took a lie detector test but the results were inconclusive. Mr. X has so far been cooperative with LE.
Mr. X Was Present at the 2019 Delphi Murders Town Hall Meeting
Mr. X was present at the 2019 press conference, sitting in the exact center of the room. He was wearing a hunting hat identical to BG’s hunting cap. LE was angry that BG was in the room. This is why Detective Carter was so livid. It’s also why Carter said, “The killer may be in this room right now.” However, he then looked away from Mr. X far to the right.
About That Fake Press Conference or Fakeference
Leaker said that the entire press conference was a gigantic ruse meant to trip up Mr. X, who, as noted, was in the room. The second sketch, which LE said was actually the real killer, was the catfish used to lure Libby off Snapchat.
The first sketch looks like Mr. X. They did this to make Mr. X think they had abandoned him and were looking at a false suspect.
The statement that they were looking for a young man aged 18-40 was also a lie, intended to make Mr. X think that they had lost his tail and were going off on a false tangent. Likewise with the report of the white truck at the CPS building. They highlighted this to make Mr. X think they were after the wrong vehicle and had abandoned the theory that his orange truck was involved. I have no idea what the cryptic references to The Shack movie were all about. You tell me.
These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. I have nothing but intense admiration for all of the detectives working on this case. I tire of all the silly repetitious condemnations of LE that they had blown it on this case. I see no evidence that this is true. Instead these guys are master craftsmen straight out of a Sherlock Holmes or John Buchan novel. They continue to amaze me.
Tobe Lozenby and Kelsi German Cleared in Delphi Murders
Via Leaker, several people came back with inconclusive lie detector results, including Sheriff Tobe Lozenby, who was actually a suspect for a while. Tobe has been cleared. The only DNA found at the crime scene on the girls’ bodies was Libby’s sister Kelsi’s. But Kelsi had lent Libby her sweater that day. Kelsi was looked at very closely by the FBI, but she was eventually cleared. Kelsi’s is the only DNA on the girls and presumably on the other objects at the scene. The killer appears to have thrown bleach over both girls and over all of the objects at the scene. There is an old rumor that he threw bleach over the girls’ genital regions that fits in with the new info about a bleach bottle left at the scene.
Brand New Information on Mr. X, the Prime Suspect!
This information comes from a retired LE officer in Illinois. We know him and we set him to work on Mr. X to see what he could dig up for us. He still has many LE contacts and he got in touch with them. After talking to his LE colleagues for a while, he got back to us.
He told us that Mr. X had a roommate in 2011-2012. This roommate looked at the BG video. He said that BG’s voice matched Mr. X’s perfectly. He said that BG’s clothes looked familiar, that is, looked like clothes that Mr. X liked to wear. And he said that the way BG walked was a dead on perfect match for BG’s walk. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. More on that later. The roommate reported his concerns to the Delphi hotline. This lines up with the Indiana Star article that also discussed Mr. X as a prime Delphi suspect and explored the possibility of a link between Delphi and Evansdale. So we have two sources for the roommate story.
We did a lot of sleuthing on Mr. X and learned that he was homeless for a time in the 2000’s when he was living in a shelter. There were some photos of him from that time but we can’t find them now. We can’t find much on him from before 2000 but he was in Illinois.
We also learned, which ought to be no surprise, that Mr. X had a rap sheet for a sex crime committed during the 1980’s when he was between 16 and 26 years old. Problem is we don’t know the nature of the sex crime. If Mr. X is BG, it makes perfect sense that he has a rap sheet for a sex crime. It also makes perfect sense that Delphi was not his first rodeo. What man with a clear rap sheet and no sex crimes in his background wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit a pair of sexual homicides?
Basically never happens. All these guys have a background. It’s true that some of these men commit a crime like this as young adults and then go on to live normal lives and never commit another homicide. A few cases recently have been solved by DNA of sex murders of young women committed by young men who then went on to live perfectly normal lives, marrying and raising kids, until they were caught by DNA in their 60’s and 70’s. For everyone saying Mr. X could not possibly have done it, the people who knew these men when they were arrested recently said the same thing.
The Evansdale Murders – Some Background
The Evansdale Murders are the double murders of two very young girls in Evansdale, Iowa, in 2012. They were younger than the teenage victims in this case, both below age 11. These were literally little girls. I don’t have time to go into the Evansdale Murders now. I recommend you look it up on the Net if you want some background.
A fellow sleuth read an article in a local newspaper a few years ago, but she can no longer find the article among her extensive files. I realize this is not a good source, but I do trust and believe her. She thought the paper was the Indiana Star. The article looked into the possibility that the Delphi Killer was responsible for the Evansdale Murders too. The article focused on Mr. X but did not name him, instead referring to him losing his keys during the search. The article implied that he was a prime suspect. The story noted that the suspect vehicle in the Delphi Murders was a white van. It was parked at the trailhead.
The girls were riding bicycles when they were accosted by the killer near the trailhead. Their bikes were strewn across the bike path. He had somehow removed them from their bikes and gotten them into his van. The van is the suspect vehicle because it was seen at the trailhead just before the girls vanished.
Five months later, the girls’ bodies were found in a wooded area near water six miles away at a wildlife refuge. The bodies were in very bad shape, and the cause of death could not be ascertained.
One of the girls’ parents was heavily involved in meth, manufacturing it and selling large quantities. He was arrested and sent to jail after the girls were killed. A drug connection appears to be ruled out.
The FBI for some odd reason felt that the girls had been left alive for a week after they were abducted. If this is so, they were probably being raped and possibly beaten or tortured during this time. What a chilling thought.
According to the article, Mr. X was driving a white van right around the time of the Evansdale Murders. Furthermore, a white van had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the murders. It was not seen again after the girls were abducted.
Mr. M., A Previous Prime Suspect in the Evansdale Murders
I previously had another prime suspect for the Evansdale Murders who I will not name other than calling him Mr. M. His ex-wife, Mrs. S., is convinced that he killed those girls. She has since remarried and moved to Arkansas. I’ve spoken with her at length, and I like her a lot. I’ve also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. Mr. M is a pure pedophile. His Facebook page is full of photos of little girls. They’re crawling all over the page. According to Mrs. S., Mr. M dressed his two sons up in girls’ clothes and molested them for five years. He was never arrested for this abuse.
Another woman from Iowa who worked with Mrs. S., Ms. C., told me she and Mrs. S thought this man was a member of a network of pedophiles or possibly or sadistic pedophiles. Sadistic pedophiles are 5% of all pedophiles. They are called misophiles. Most sexual murders of children are committed by misophiles. As with sadistic rapists, 5% of all rapists, misophiles are quite dangerous. Most rapists who murder are sadistic rapists. Anger rapists sometimes kill in a rage if the victim fights back, but generally they just threaten or possibly hurt the rape victim without killing her.
Ms. C told me that in these misophile networks, the ultimate high is considered to be to be get two little girls at once and rape, torture, and murder them. That is just horrible.
This would be akin to the “double cherry” murders that some US soldiers committed in the Vietnam War. The soldiers would abduct a virgin teenage girl from presumably a hostile village, rape her, and then murder her. That’s terrible. It really hits me hard.
Mr. M has been investigated by the FBI six different times for the Evansdale Murders. Each time they describe him as a suspect. They clear him each time after a while, and then they simply say that he is not a suspect. I was sure that Mr. M. killed those girls, as his behavior around that time was very suspicious, but now I am not so sure. The FBI is said to be very angry at me for my articles on Mr. M, who I simply referred to as Mr. X, because they think it will harm his ability to get a fair trial. I doubt if he did it, but maybe I will take those articles down if they’re making the FBI mad.
LE Now Feels that BG Also Committed the Evansdale Murders
The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. The state in which the bodies were left and the choice of dump sites were the same in both killings, and strange objects were found with the Evansdale girls similar to the weird objects found with the Delphi victims.
In addition to Mr. M above, another man was a suspect in the Evansdale Murders. He had abducted two girls, one 12 and the other 15 years old and taken them to a barn where he had tied to them up. While he was raping and killing the 15 year old girl, the 12 year old girl escaped. The poor 15 year old girl did not, and her body was found dumped nearby shortly afterwards. Unfortunately he killed himself before he could be taken to trial.
For a long time, LE thought his man did the Evansdale murders. After all, two female minors were abducted at once in both crimes and were either killed or there was an attempt made to kill both of them. However, LE said that this man’s MO was completely different from the MO used in the Evansdale murders, so he probably didn’t do it.
Lists have been made of all of the similarities between the Evansdale Murders and the Delphi Murders. The coincidences are shocking. The dates of the Evansdale and Delphi Murders are exactly reversed. Also both sets of girls were killed on the 13th, traditionally an unlucky number and day.
If LE suspects Mr. X of both crimes, this means that he was living in Delphi at the time of the Delphi murders, moving away only recently. He lived in Delphi most of the last decade. Around 2011-2102 was when he first moved to Delphi. Prior to that he had been bouncing around small towns in Indiana. At this time, he had a male roommate who suspects Mr. X in not only the Delphi murders but also the Evansdale Murders. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, he was living in or around Delphi at the time. It would have been a long-distance murder. So Mr. X would have lived in Delphi when he committed both the Evansdale and Delphi Murders.
BG May Well Be a Serial Killer
It is important to note that if BG also committed the Evansdale Murders, he is a serial killer. I have felt from the start that BG might be a serial. The crime was too brazen and skillfully carried out to be a first shot. And who wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit horrible sex murders? Pretty much nobody. He would have been 46 when he did the Evansdale Murders, but he may have committed a sex crime between the ages of 16-26, so there’s your prior earlier in life. Almost all of these guys have red flags like this early ion life.
Mr. X May Have an Aberrant Age Sexual Orientation
I hate to bring up this subject since it sets off so many lies about me, but I’m forced to because Mr. X may have an aberrant age sexual orientation and this has forensic consequences. First a brief tutorial on age orientations in men.
Sexual orientation is not just towards sex as in homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Males have three main age orientations:
Teleiophile: Maximally attracted to mature females 16+. All normal males fall into this category. The react to 13-15 year old girls too, but at a lower level. And 90-100% of them react to even girls from 7-12, albeit at a substantially lower level. The presence of attractions is not what is important here. The importance lies in the degree of the attractions relative to other ages. Depending on the definition, 23% of teleiophilic men also show strong attraction to girls under 16. However, as they have strong attractions to mature females also, we tend not to worry about these men. There are too many of them anyway.
Some teleiophilic killers go as low as 12 as Bundy did, but that is because 12 year old girls are barely starting to look like women, especially with the abnormally long legs. These killers almost never commit sex murders of little girls. Or if they do, they do it when they are boys. For instance, Bundy killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14. But that’s a fairly normal attraction for a 14 year old boy to have.
Hebephile: Although age ranges vary, I prefer the age range of 12-15 for hebephiles. Some move the lower end down a bit. These men are maximally attracted to pubescent girls and have little to no attraction to mature females. Perhaps ~3% of men are primary hebephiles. Hebephilia is not considered to be a mental disorder as attraction to pubescent females is quite normal among teleiophilic men. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims.
However, ~23% of men react maximally to girls age 12-15 at a level equal to or higher than their reaction to mature females. So high attraction to girls in this range is quite normal. The thing is that these men are also strongly attracted to adult women. The hebephilic attraction is an antisocial attraction. The attraction to adult women is a prosocial attraction. Probably most of these men repress or suppress their hebephilic urges which will land them in prison if they act on them and instead focus on their prosocial urges towards adult women, which are completely legal.
Hebephilia is a problem when men have little to no attraction to mature females so the only way to satisfy their sexual urges is to have sex with a 12-15 year old girl. That’s illegal in most places, either child molestation in the case of 12 year olds or statutory rape for 13-15 year olds. In quite a few countries, 15 year old girls are legal, so hebephiles may stay out of trouble there. These men are automatically dangerous because the only way to fulfill their sexual drive is to commit a crime.
Pedophilia: Probably the most grotesquely abused word of the 21st Century. Nowadays an 18 year old boy has sex with a 17 year old girl, gets arrested, goes to jail, gets called a pedophile and a child molester, and sees his name go on a sex offender registry for life. This is a result of a huge Sex Panic around the sexuality of teenage girls because we cannot acknowledge that they are fully sexual creatures without falling into a Puritanical moral panic.
As a result of this mass hysteria around the subject, the perfectly legitimate category of statutory rape (I prefer the term illegal intercourse) has been absurdly conflated with the child molestation of little girls under 13, which admittedly is a problem. Stat rape is psychologically normal behavior for adult men. It is a moral and legal problem, not a psychological one. Many adults feel that men who have sex with teenage girls are bad, evil, depraved, immoral, etc.
Because of society’s morals, much of this behavior is illegal. Societies have a right to have any morals they wish to. Stat rape is probably not harmful to teenage girls. But it is dangerous behavior for men to engage in, as you might get caught and go to jail or prison in the midst of an insane moral panic about this subject. Older men who break these laws are idiots and do not get my sympathy.
Anyway, pure pedophilia is an age orientation whereby men are maximally attracted to girls under 13 and have little to no attraction to mature females. Many start losing interest in girls as soon as they hit 13. It is associated by child molestation, but not all pedophiles molest, and many can go 20-30 years without offending. Also, 75% of child molesters are not pedophiles. They are teliophilic men who are just criminals who prey on easy targets. This behavior is associated with other forms of abuse such as psychological, physical, and verbal abuse. It’s just another form of abuse from an abusive man.
On the other hand, strong pedophilic attraction is quite normal in men. It is only abnormal where it is combined with little or no attraction to adult women. 21% of men react to girls under 13 as strongly or stronger than they do to adult women. But only 3% of men are pure pedophiles, so 18% of men have strong attractions to both mature women and little girls. As with the hebephilic attraction above, men who have high attraction to both women and little girls presumably suppress or repress their antisocial pedophilic attraction and focus on their prosocial attraction to adult women. It sounds like a good way to stay out of prison.
Pure pedophiles are automatically dangerous because the only way they can fulfill their sexual urges is by committing the serious crime of child molestation. Pedophilia, a way of thinking or a sexual orientation, is of course completely legal as are all ways of thinking. However, the behavior that can result from this thinking, child molestation, is very much illegal, and rightly so.
Based on the pure forensics, the Evansdale Killer is a pedophilic sex murderer or a misophile. The Delphi Killer is either a hebephilic sex murderer or he has a normal age orientation and is a teliophilic sex killer. The problem is what do we do when a man kills two girls, 8 and 10 and then kills two more girls, 13 and 14. In the first crime, the killer is almost always pedophilic and in the second crime, the man rarely if ever pedophilic.
A solution to this problem lies in the notion of pedohebephilia.
Pedohebephilia: Apparently there is a significant group of men who react maximally to girls under 16 all the way down to little girls, encompassing both pedophilic and hebephilic attractions. They have little to no attraction to mature females or adult women. The available literature suggests that this group is larger than we thought.
Does Mr. X Have an Aberrant Age Attraction?
The answer appears to be yes. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, we have to think again about his sexual age orientation. Many killers with a normal age orientation will kill teenage girls since they look like women. So they kill teenage girls and grown women because they both look like women. Killers of teenage girls do not typically have an abnormal age orientation as it’s perfectly normal for healthy males to be highly aroused by underage teenage girls. The studies are clear on this.
However, killers who commit sexual murders of little girls under 13 are a different breed. This is beyond the pale for even most serial killers. The one murder that Ted Bundy would never confess to was an 8 year old girl he is thought to have killed when he was only 14 years old. Even for Ted Bundy this was considered shameful. Men who kill teenage girls and women almost never commit sexual murders of little girls. Sex murderers of little girls almost always have a strong pedophilic age orientation, although occasionally they attack adults too, as in the killer of Madeline McMurray who murdered a 3 year old girl, probably killed an 8 year old girl in Germany, and raped and brutally beat a 70 year old woman.
Nevertheless, Madeline’s killer is strongly pedophilic, as a large quantity of child porn was found among his possessions. In addition, a number of little girls’ swimsuits were found in his van. Any man possessing such items will always have a strong pedophilic orientation.
I had previously thought that BG had a normal age orientation for the above reasons. However, 13-14 year old girls also fall into the range of hebephiles who are maximally aroused by 12-15 year old girls and feel little to no attraction to mature females.
I spent a bit of time on their forums studying them. They’re disturbing. They don’t post child porn on there, so their forums are clean. In case yiou think it’s weird to go to such forums, half the people in the forum were hebephiles and another half were hebephile haters threatening to kill the hebephiles and have them arrested. So it’s very common for non-hebephiles to be on these forums.
The hebephiles would scream, “No grandmas!” every time someone posted a 16 year old girl. If a man doesn’t think 16 year old girls are disgusting old ladies, he can’t possibly be a hebephile. This is what they are like.
The victims in the Evansdale and Delphi Murders were girls ranging in age from 8-14. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. You can see above that there is an age sexual orientation called pedohebephilia. When they were trying to sneak Hebephilia into the DSM-5, regular reference was made to this group.
Pedohebephiles combine both categories. They are maximally attracted to girls under 16 down to little girls and feel little to no attraction to mature females. If Mr. X did the Evansdale Murders, then he may be a pedohebephile in terms of age attraction.
This is more important than you think because age attractions of sex killers are an important part of forensics and especially profiling. Presumably we should look in the background of Mr. X to see evidence of a strong attraction to girls under 16, possibly combined with a low attraction to adult females.
In that case, he may collect child pornography or go to child porn sites. He may have child and teen erotica in his home. He may have shown evidence in his life of an abnormal interest in little girls or young teenage girls. People close to him may have noticed this over time. In fact, Mr. X was the leader of a young people’s Christian group. The ages of the minors in that group are not known. Investigators should be looking for a man with a strong focus on little girls and young teenage girls as preferred sexual objects. This should be an important part of the investigation.
More on the Official Case Document(s) I Obtained
I am keeping the number, nature, and provenance of the document(s) deliberately vague as I am trying to protect the source who mailed them to me as photocopies. As I discussed in my last update, I recently came upon photocopies one or more official document(s) relating to the case. The document(s) are from either LE or the judicial system or both at the same time. They are signed by two different entities. The document(s) are the property of a man in the community who was investigated as a suspect in this case and relate to LE’s investigation of him. He was cleared of involvement in the case.
Proof That BG Fired a Gun During the Crime
One of the revelations in those document(s) was that BG fired a gun during this crime. This has been subsequently appended by two new rumors that there was a bullet cartridge found at the site and that LE is looking for an odd gun, a collector’s edition .40 or 10mm, that was used in the crime.
It’s pretty clear that at least one cartridge was probably found at the scene because in the document(s), it says that LE is looking for a gun in connection with this crime in order to do ballistics tests on it. In order to do ballistics tests, you need a spent cartridge fired from the gun in question. That can only mean that BG fired a gun at some point in this crime.
The rumor that the gun was a collector’s edition .40 is definitely unconfirmed. I don’t even know the provenance of this rumor. See in the comments below though where a commenter casts doubt on the notion of any .40 gun being a collector’s edition.
Crime Scene Photos from the Helicopter Now Proven Legitimate
In my last post, I ran a number of photos taken from the helicopter footage on February 14, 2017 when the girls’ bodies were discovered. We focused on the area where you can see all the camera flashes going off in a circle. That has to be the crime scene with CSI people photographing the scene. There are a couple of reddish objects that can be very vaguely seen in the center of those camera flashes.
The photos were blown up and manipulated with software in a Youtube video by a theoretical physicist who seems credible. Many people say there is nothing there but pixellation and artifacts. However, I now have reason to believe that my analysis of these photos is correct. In order to discuss this, unfortunately I am going to have to print those photos again.
First pic above. Both Abby and Libby.
Second pic above. Libby alone.
Third pic above. Both girls, good quality image. Note the knife on or near Libby’s shoulder in green.
Libby’s legs highlighted above.
One of the things I pointed out in these images is that the killer spread both of the girls’ legs wide open after disrobing them below the waist. This is obviously a sexual position that females adopt when on their backs in order to be penetrated by males via PIV sex. It’s also quite violating considering the ages of these girls and what was done to them.
However, see below how I was able to validate that those are indeed crime scene photos above and that the girls legs were both spread and a knife was either plunged into poor Libby’s shoulder or the log next to her.
A Woman Member of the Search Team Who Came upon the Scene Afterwards Speaks
I recent talked to a woman who was part of the search team. She came upon the site after the girls had been found. What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century.
First of all, we need to look at the credibility of this woman as a source. She was sent to me by a sleuther who I consider to be among the finest and most professional of all. This person told me that he found this woman to be very credible. She wasn’t the sort of person to make things up – more like the opposite.
There are references below to an elaborate crime scene with posing of the girls and all sorts of crazy and unlikely objects scattered about. First of all, I’ve been hearing these rumors forever, and I’ve been laughing as hard as anyone. I thought they were ridiculous. But now here I have a credible witness, a female member of the search team, who told me about this weird crime scene, and it turns out a lot of the crazy stuff I’ve been laughing at all this time may well be true.
A question has been brought up about how would BG transport these various objects to the crime scene, as they could easily been seen on his person in the photo on the bridge. I concur. The searcher is clear that one object was so large that he could have been carrying it when he was photographed on the bridge. I don’t believe he brought any of this stuff (other than the bleach bottle that can be seen in his left pant leg) to the crime scene when he abducted those girls.
Instead I believe he either prepared the crime scene in advance with all this weird stuff scattered about or he came back after the murders and created his little Fantasyland murder scene.
Girls Staged in a Sexual Tableau at the Crime Scene
She told me that both girls’ legs were spread. However, she had not yet seen these crime scene photos. Also, I had not talked to her before I ran those photos and determined that the girls’ legs were spread (see photos above). What is the likelihood that she made up a lie about the girls’ legs being spread at the same time as I found some crime scene photos that I interpreted as the girls’ legs being spread? About 0%. So I consider it proven now that BG disrobed both girls below the waist and then spread their legs wide in a sexual tableau imitating PIV sex.
Staging of a Knife Attack on a Girl Made to Appear Self-Inflicted
She said that Libby’s head was leaning against a log.A knife had been plunged either into her shoulder or on the log next to her shoulder.Libby’s hand was positioned to make her appear to be holding the knife that stabbed her in the shoulder. So Libby was posed inflicting a self-inflicted wound upon herself.
As you can see in the photo above, the object highlighted in green is obviously a knife. Once again, what are the odds that she made up a lie about a knife positioned just this way at the same time as I saw these photos and interpreted them as being of a knife positioned just this way? About zero. At this point, I consider it proven that BG plunged a knife into or near Libby’s shoulder.
Spreading their legs in that sexually receptive pose was bad enough, but BG did worse than that. According to this woman, BG had stripped both girls below the waist and had positioned phallic shaped objects between their legs perpendicular to their crotches. He placed a doll between poor Abby’s legs to make it appear she was being penetrated by a doll. Worse, he positioned a log in between poor Libby’s legs, making it appear that she was being penetrated with a log!
This would not be the first time women have been posed like this. I had the misfortune of seeing crime scene photos from the Hillside Strangler case. A dead woman is positioned in a bathtub, and a broom handle of an intact broom is shoved into her vagina.
But wait. Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse, they do just that. Kind of like, you know, life itself?
Dolls Hanging from Trees at the Crime Scene!
Apparently the doll rumor is true!
The woman told me that dolls were scattered about at the scene in addition to the one shoved between Abby’s legs. Other dolls were, incredibly enough, hanging from the trees at the kill zone!
Giant Plush Stuffed Bear Toy at the Crime Scene? Who Knows? Maybe?
You’re heard the rumor of the gigantic stuffed animal left at the scene? That rumor was so pathetic that I discounted it immediately as ridiculous. Well, guess what? The woman told me that a large toy-like object was left at the scene. She didn’t tell me what it was, but she did say it was so large that BG could not possibly have smuggled it to the scene when he abducted the girls because it would have been seen in the video.
Smiley Face Killers Signature at the Crime Scene
There was also a large white sheet left at the scene with a smiley face scrawled on it. According to the theoretical physicist, he seemed to be saying that this smiley face sheet had been hung from trees. This crime scene is getting seriously nuts.
Remember the bizarre Smiley Face Murders, the possible drownings of severely intoxicated young adult college age men in the Eastern US over a period of 10-20 years? No one knows if these are actual murders or just accidental drownings, but there are a couple of retired crack detectives who are certain that these are homicides, albeit very cleverly disguised ones. I believe that these are homicides.
They are called the Smiley Face Murders because in many cases, smiley faces were seen drawn on bridges where the drowned bodies were found. It is thought that these drunken young men may have been tossed off of bridges. The other theory of course is that these are simply college aged men who drunk to severe intoxication before deciding to go for a fatal midnight swims. This has been the default interpretation of these murders. Assuming these really are murders, this person(s) may have invented the perfect crime: homicides designed as accidents.
This brings up another theory. One of my sleuther friends suggested that the killer is a serial killer fan. Possibly he is mixing up signatures of different killers in order to throw people off. That may or may not be the case.
Objects staged to appear to be shoved inside female victims’ vaginas would be an imitation of the Hillside Stranglers’ signatures. I’ve heard other killers used this signature, including a child killer in Indiana who was executed just last year who had rammed an object inside the vagina of a little girl he killed.
The smiley face cloth appears to be a reference to the Smiley Face Murders, a mystery involving many mysterious deaths that may be either accidents or homicides staged as accidents.
I don’t know of any serials who have used dolls in staging their crimes, but I suppose they may exist.
On the other hand, and I think this is a better theory, I think that at least some of these things are signatures particular to this killer. I say this because similar posing and objects were reported with the Evansdale Murders, who LE now suspects BG of committing.
Photo of Possible Bleach Bottle in BG’s Left Pant Leg
Another crazy rumor, that of a bleach bottle left at the scene, was also validated by the woman. In the photos below, you can see what may be the bleach bottle in his left jeans pocket.
It looks like he tossed bleach all over everything – the girls, the dolls, the plush object, the sheet, the crucifix, the log, you name it. Thereby killing all of the DNA.
DNA, SHMEE-ENAY, Give It a Rest Already
I get tired of all this endless talk of DNA. Assuming that Mr. X is the prime suspect, they already have his DNA.It’s all over the crime scene in the surrounding forest but it’s not on the girls or on any of the objects, probably because the threw bleach all over them.
I do have an unverified report that they have nine markers of a DNA profile via skin cells from an unknown male recovered from one of the girls. Problem is that’s not many markers. It’s known as a partial DNA sample. I don’t have the exact figures, but a match with Mr. X on those nine markers might mean that there’s a 1 in 10 chance it’s him. In other words, 10% of men have those markers. They can’t use that in court, but these partial matches are useful to LE because they give LE additional confidence that they have the right suspect.
Reportedly, LE has one smudged fingerprint from the crime scene. No one knows who it might be from. It doesn’t sound like it’s very usable.
The Crime Scene Had to Have Been Set up Before or Afterwards
Obviously, BG picked out this spot in advance and somehow planted the logs, dolls, sheet, plush object, etc. at the scene ahead of time without getting caught. He set up this crime scene before the murders. How did he do it? When? Why was he not seen?
Alternately, BG killed the girls and then went back to the scene between the sometime in the night of February 13 and early morning of February 14 and created this crazy Disneyland crime scene. The same questions posed above apply here too. I’m actually leaning towards the latter, as insane as that sounds. But really, if these crime scene rumors are true, just about anything, including the most insane notions, may be correct about this craziest of crimes.
Keep in mind that none of the wild stories above from the woman searcher are confirmed yet as they comes from a single, albeit seemingly unimpeachable, source. But we need more than that to confirm rumors in this case.* Nevertheless, the continuous nature of these bizarre rumors, now backed up by an excellent eyewitness, does add some credibility to these insane rumors.
If this crime scene is anything like what this woman describes it as, then this is shaping up to be one of the weirdest, most insane double homicides of the 21st Century.
*Notice that I am getting stricter about my criteria for confirmation of rumors in this case. We played fast and loose with words and phrases like confirmed, true, solid proof, etc. in this past. Once bitten, twice shy when it comes to that.
This post has now been updated. See here for the April 4 update. It’s even crazier than this update!
This post is very long. It runs to 29 pages. I’m sorry but I’m afflicted with both graphomania and logorrhea (same thing). We writers love to write and once we get started, we just can’t quit, like any other addiction to dope, gambling, sex, porn, or whatever. Except you never get the peak high, and there’s no post-high crash. The high continues the whole time, and there’s relief when you’re done as in an accomplished chore instead of a crash. Sort of, “I’m sure glad that’s over.” We love it yet it’s a chore. Kind of like, you know, life.
You just can’t stop. Supposedly writing too much is a sign of a lousy writer, but then we must convict Balzac and Dickens, not to mention encyclopedists like Pynchon and the king of the graphomaniacs, Proust. I’d rather not do that.
It’s not so much the sign of a lousy writer as the sign of a writer, as in a born writer, a real writer. Just as there are men and real men, so there are writers and real writers.
Obviously it’s a flaw. It’s violates White’s Manual of Style (Keep it simple, stupid) and a lot of other things, including the reader’s precious time. But all great things come with flaws just as there is a bit of good in even most horrors.
Anyway, what do you think editors are for? To mop up our Niagra of words, that’s what.
A bit here on my ever-growing army of haters. I’ve met some new folks lately, and they all say, “You know, I heard all these horrible things about you, but I wasn’t sure if they were true. Now that I contacted you, I know it’s all garbage. You’re like the nicest guy in the world.” Well, yeah. The obvious conclusion of someone who really knows me. Which is like…just about no one.
Anyway, haters, oh haters! If you hate me so much, why do you read? I don’t get it. I don’t read people I hate. I might use their prose for toilet paper or lining bird cages, but I certainly won’t read it. I have better things to do, like enjoying life instead of hating it like you do. If you hate me that much, just go away. Don’t read. Unless you’re someone to whom hate is as valuable as oxygen. In that case, do come and get your fix.
One more thing. Nothing the haters ever said about me is true except that I’m broke, don’t have a regular job, and at one point my car broke down and I didn’t have the money to fix it. None of the sexual proclivities or obsessions they say I have are true. I don’t mind people who think that way, but it’s not for me, sorry. Once again, anyone who really knows me figures this out. Which, once again, is like, just about nobody.
How bout one more one more thing, just to try your patience? There’s a lot of graphic commentary below, including gruesome descriptions of the brutal murders of two young teenage girls. True crime is a nasty beast by its nature. There’s no way to pretty up this pig. If your true crime commentary isn’t brutal, you’re avoiding the facts. If you have a sensitive stomach about such things, just don’t read. Go read about flowers or something instead.
Oh, one more two more things. There are are blown up and edited to Hell images below taken from a helicopter hovering over the crime scene. In the images, some can make out the outlines of the two young victims. Not much is visible. They may as well be stick figures. Nevertheless, a lot of tender folks freak out on such things. So don’t look at them. Have a cup of coffee and think of sunshine and smiles instead.
Oh and one more three things. I would like to officially thank “Cory Ahlm” and “Ryan Vanslooten,” whoever the Hell they are, assuming they even exist in the first place, two of my very best friends going so far back I can’t even remember when we first met. They’ve been with me from the start and the start of this case, and I couldn’t have done anything without them. I could barely have existed without them! Speaking of which, I wish I was in California! The weather here is fit for Polar Bears and few else. By the way, I’ve heard of doppelgangers, but who ever thought there could be a double doppelganger? Only in the movies!
This will be a follow-on to my earlier post here. Anything published in the early post that has not changed will not be republished here. Only new items and old items that have changed will be listed here.
First of all, about the purpose of this website. The purpose of this site has simply been a clearinghouse for rumors about the Delphi Murders on Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017. That’s all we ever wrote. It’s true we were fast and loose with some of those rumors, reporting them as truth, and that is unfortunate. But that’s how it goes in this business.
So every time you hear people bashing the Hell out of this site for something we printed, keep in mind that that was just some rumor we heard and printed. That’s all it ever was. Of course, we have been trying to winnow the rumors down into those we have more confidence and less confidence in from the very start, but that’s easier said than done.
I would estimate that 95% of the rumors I have printed about this case have proven to be false. In fact, 95% of anything you have heard about this case anywhere over time is probably false.
I suppose I should go over some of these old dead rumors because idiots keep accusing us of pushing these theories. Now, when I say a rumor is considered dead, not credible, false, not true, etc., please leave me alone and quit accusing me of pushing an old story I’ve long since discredited. I will start with dead rumors or highly dubious rumors. After I do that, I will discuss rumors that have more credibility.
Dead or Highly Dubious Rumors
The barn theory: Has to do with the Mears barn across the street from Ron Logan’s house. We have a photo of cadaver dogs searching the barn. Also there was a small shrine with flowers inside the structure. And the owners acted very strange when we asked if the barn had been used in the crime. The barn theory is continuing to be pushed by a woman who says the girls were removed from the area, taken to the barn, killed there, and then returned to the dump site. Despite all of this, we regard the barn story as dead.
The initial K was carved in trees at the crime scene. We got this secondhand from a LE source. Turns out it was a bad rumor. As you can see, LE sources are not so reliable.
The White Dodge Dart: We formerly thought this had something to do with the crime. Turns out it was a great big dead end, one of many in this case. A white Dodge Dart is not involved in the case.
The crime had Satanic overtones. Indeed, we theorized this in the early days after the crime. In part it was due to bizarre reports from people who saw crime scene photos that the crime appeared to have occult or Satanic overtones. We now feel that this is false. There is no evidence of occult or Satanic overtones to this crime.
A previous report said that Abby was raped via PIV sex and fluids were left at the scene. This rumor is now judged false. The rumor also stated that the motive of the crime was the rape of Abby Williams. This is also false.
A previous report stated that the girls were bound with ropes around their backs. We judge that false. Instead, we believe that they were handcuffed.
A previous report said that the crime scene “begins in the Robertson’s backyard and continues for 1,000 feet.” We regard this as unconfirmed to say the least. Probably best disregarded for now.
A previous report said that at least two searchers touched the bodies and one tried to revive the girls with mouth to mouth resuscitation. We now regard this rumor as probably false and unconfirmed to say the least. There’s no evidence for it at the moment.
A previous report said that the cause of death of Abby Williams was a knife wound to the heart. We now judge this as rumor as false. Instead, we feel, via Leaker, that Abby was struck over the head with a blunt object (we believe it was the killer’s gun). She was also stabbed in the main artery of her neck. It is not known which assault was fatal.
A previous report said that some sort of bleach or toilet bowl cleaner was thrown on the girls’ bodies, in particular their genitalia, in order to destroy DNA evidence of the crime. This is rumor is unconfirmed.
Our POI: We had a sleuthing group with 200 members. I had a POI and I built quite a large case against him. In fact, LE contacted us and asked us to send them everything we had on this man. In addition, the Indiana State Police were verified as harassing this man at one point by repeatedly calling him on the phone. I know the name of the detective who was doing that, too. In addition, this man was a suspect according to the FBI, who tricked him into coming up to Michigan, only to detain and get a DNA sample from him.
As you can see this man was a considered a suspect by both the FBI and the ISP, so please stop accusing us of harassing him. We never published his name one time over the years, and I will not do it now. I won’t even publish his initials. We had a private pay-only group where we discussed him, but that was it. That’s like talking about someone within the confines of a private home. This man also made a series of videos where he seemed to be confessing to being the Bridge Guy (the UNSUB in the murders). In addition, he seemed to be taunting LE and viewers in these videos. Excuse me for suspecting that a guy who making videos almost literally confessing to being BG might actually be the killer!
This man is not a very nice person, but I no longer feel that he had anything to do with this crime. His quasi-confessions go down on the list of false confessions in this case. Counting hazy cases like this, I count four false confessions so far.
I would apologize to him for falsely accusing him behind closed doors, but he threatened to murder me many times, so I’ll pass on that. In cases like these, possible suspects who seem like good possibilities for being the culprit are often run through the ringer, only to be dismissed. They’re often pretty suspicious people. I’d appreciate it if people would leave this fellow alone. He’s not very pleasant anyway.
Rumors That Have More Credibility
The girls’ bodies were violated with sticks and branches. We have caught Hell and high water for this one, however, this rumor has some staying power.
It showed up quickly within a week of the murders when a local young man published photos of the crime scene that he had somehow obtained. He described the murders as “occult-like” and wondered if there was an occult or Satanic connection. He described a branch plunged into the body of one of the girls.
Next, we received confirmation of this via an associate of a detective working on the case. He had told his SO details about the case, and we got the data from there. This person said the detective had told them that the girls’ bodies were violated with sticks and branches, in particular, that sticks had been inserted into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. That sounds pretty awful but this is one terrible crime.
Finally, a woman came to me and apologized. She said she had been mad at me for spreading this rumor but she had recently been able to confirm its truth via a detective in another area of LE who had seen crime scene photos. This man added that Abby had a branch plunged into her body just below her solar plexus in her chest. So far we have three verfications of this rumor, two from people who saw crime scene photos and two from LE with some overlap. Nevertheless, we still regard this rumor as unconfirmed though definitely possible with the two LE confirmations.
And the more you learn about this crime, believe me, the more you would not be surprised at the cruelty and bizarreness of abusing these girls’ bodies in this way because that seemed to be a major focus on the crime – violating, dishonoring, shaming, and debasing these girls with cruelty and contempt and then posing them in a degrading and humiliating manner. In addition, the killer’s behavior a few hours after the crime was another taunt and a cruel dancing on these girls’ graves after their deaths. This is one Hell of a dark crime.
One girl was pregnant: This has been a rumor from the very first weeks after the crime. The same woman above also apologized for being mad at me over this rumor. However, she told me that she was able to confirm this rumor via a sheriff’s deputy in nearby county. Nevertheless, I suppose it remains formally unverified, and keep in mind some of our LE sources have told us false things. The rumor is that one girl was in the very early stages of pregnancy. We are not going to say which girl it was. Based on the recent verification we got from LE, we regard as it quite possibly true, but it would be nice to get some more confirmation.
A longstanding rumor is that Libby German was killed by a deep knife cut to her neck. This was recently confirmed by a new source named Leaker, who I regard as credible. Apparently his wife accessed documents relating to the case at her job at the courthouse. I have also verified this sad fact via the girl’s own mother who saw the wound. This rumor is 100% confirmed.
A previous report said that Libby was attacked with a gut knife in her abdomen, resulting in a partial disembowelment of this poor girl. If this wound took place, it was after she was dead. A gut knife is one of the knives that would be present in that deer kit (a deer hunter’s kit containing five knives) that BG has around his waist. Partial verification of this is in the form of reports of detectives going around to local hardware stores in the weeks after the murders asking if anyone had bought a gut knife recently.
Presumably one of the wounds to the girl(s) was via this sort of a knife. On the other hand there is a new rumor that a gut knife was left at the scene. This man also lists a number of items the killer left at the scene that stretches credulity. Leaving a gut knife at the scene is unverified and seems quite dubious. A knife with no DNA? That the girl was attacked in this terrible manner is also completely unconfirmed. However, detectives definitely feel that a gut knife was used in this crime.
New Information from Leigh Kerr (Leaker)
Quite a bit of new information came out a few weeks ago via an appearance by a man named Leaker, identified above. He is a pastor who lives in Lafayette. His access to investigation documents is described above. Leaker was extremely controversial, yet for a variety of reasons, I regard him as credible. He gave us a lot of new information, much of which may be correct. Keep in mind that both local LE and FBI have commented on Leaker’s remarks, saying that nothing he said was true. But that is to be expected.
Leaker says that there is a prime suspect in the case. Based on the facts laid out, he can only mean a Delphi resident, recently moved to Monticello, who I will call Mr. X. I could use his initials but that doesn’t seem right. This man is either the prime suspect or Leaker is trying to frame him, one or the other. I think he’s the prime suspect.
According to Leaker, Mr. X was involved in the search party. At some point during the searching, he claimed to have lost his keys. His truck was parked overnight, hidden in the cemetery right above where the girls were found. It was still there the next day when the cemetery was full of police vehicles. This is because Mr. X lost his keys at some point. I believe he claims to have lost his keys while searching. Although Mr. X claims that he called his wife to come bring an extra set of car keys, his truck stayed there overnight and into the next day, which seems odd. On the afternoon after the bodies were found, Mr. X’s truck was towed.
At 6 PM, Mr. X asked permission to search Ron Logan’s land. Permission was granted. This request can be linked to the truck hidden at the cemetery as this is where he obviously was parked when he made this request, however, we do not know when the truck arrived there. Mr. X then searched Logan’s land. Although it was dusk, it would seem to be hard to miss the girls right below where his truck was parked.
Mr. X was back searching in the area on Logan’s land at 12:30 PM February 14. He and 1-3 other persons spotted the girls bodies. There is a rumor that Mr. X looked through his binoculars, spotted a deer, and then looked down and saw the girls. This seems credible to me although some say that LE just made this up as a ruse. The searchers did not come very close to the bodies. Who all found the bodies is still quite up in the air. After he found the bodies, there is a rumor that Mr. X was so traumatized that he ran from the scene. He then needed psychotherapy for some time after discovering the bodies. Both of those behaviors seem pretty over the top, even for such a gruesome crime.
Mr. X is the prime suspect for a variety of reasons. For one, there was a small change in his story.
Leaker said, in shocking news, that Mr. X’s phone was pinging at the abandoned Child Protective Services (CPS) building for several hours around the time of the murders. It is the opinion of LE that the killer parked at the CPS building while he committed his crimes. There vehicle may have been a truck. A persistent yet unconfirmed rumor is that it was a white truck. However, Mr. X’s truck is orange. LE would like very much to speak for anyone who spotted that truck at the CPS building during that time to contact LE. If the truck can be linked to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible.
Mr. X does not have a good excuse for his phone pinging at the CPS building for hours. However, cellphone data is generally not admissible in court, and anyway, Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere and his phone just happened to be pinging at the CPS building looking for a signal, so this evidence cannot be used in court. However, it is suspicious to say the very least. If Mr. X’s truck was not there the whole time, it is possible that he left his phone at the building for several hours while he committed the crime. That way his phone could not be tracked to the crime scene.
Leaker says that Mr. X had an alibi, a friend of his. This friend says he saw Mr. X elsewhere in town around the time of the murders. LE was unable to break Mr. X’s alibi via his friend. It is considered to be a solid alibi in terms of taking the case to court. Unfortunately, this friend is has since died. This complicates the case immeasurably.
According to Leaker, the only DNA on the girls’ bodies is from Kelsi, Libby’s sister. Kelsi has been cleared. Mr. X’s DNA is in the area, but he was part of the search team that discovered the bodies, so it’s not usable. Assuming he did it, see how he contaminated the scene by finding the bodies?
Leaker also said that there were religious aspects to the murders. Although the exact nature of these aspects is unknown, a rumor that a crucifix was left at the site seems credible.
Leaker also said that the girls’ bodies were posed in a sexual tableau. This seems to be correct. More on that below.
A previous report said that the killer took photos or video of the crime and sent it to Abby’s phone after the murders. This is correct, and I have additional evidence that will prove this.
A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. According to Leaker, this is correct. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the “catfish” of a young man aged 19. Libby had gotten smitten with this young man and wanted to meet him. The catfish appears to have been the killer himself. Leaker says the second sketch is a sketch of the catfish photo that the killer used to lure Libby on Snapchat where she was catfished. One of Libby’s friends had seen a photo of the catfish, and her description of it is what the second sketch is based on.
At the start of this case, LE said “be careful of what your kids are doing on social media.” The usual idiots who have swarmed this case from Day One have insisted all this time that that means nothing. However, we have been reporting for some time on here that the girls may have been catfished via social media. In fact, we were ripped up pretty severely for promoting that theory. As with so many aspects of this case, a number of the “wild, outrageous, and offensive stories” we were reporting on here from the start are turning out to be true. It’s no surprise to me. I’m a professional journalist. I have a BA in Journalism. I worked as an assistant editor of a magazine. This is one of my professions.
According to Leaker, LE feels that Libby may have posted on Snapchat that she was going to the bridge that day. We reported in a previous post that the trip was not a last minute decision, and instead, adults were discussing it in local bars on Friday night. We have been saying all along that the killer must have known the girls were going to be there that day, and he came quite amply prepared to commit this specific crime. The crime may have been plotted for four months prior to carrying it out. You can see how BG was loaded up with all that murder equipment. He’d obviously planned this out in advance.
Of course, we have been bashed for this too, and an absolutely insane theory that fails all logic tests that the killer came to the bridge that day looking to kill any victim that he might happen to spot there has been suggested in its stead. This theory fails so badly on logic alone that it’s amazing how much traction it got.
Too many people on this case seem to be afflicted with a disorder called Pathological Doubting Disorder. They have pathologically doubted everything and anything that anyone ever said about this crime. They beat their fists on the table endlessly that only verified information, not rumors, must be discussed. The problem here is that LE hasn’t told us a damned thing. If we were restricted to merely discussing what has been verified by LE, there’d be nothing to talk about. We’d all be sitting around talking about the weather instead.
Leaker also said that if the catfish can be connected to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible.
However, this will be hard to do. All attempts to find the killer’s IP addresses or texts or photos of the catfish on Snapchat have come up empty for whatever reason.
According to Leaker, Mr. X has completely cooperated with the investigation. At the time of the crime, Mr. X lived two miles from the crime scene.
Leaker also said that the crime was committed in a ravine that is hard to see from most angles. It may also be sheltered sound-wise too.
Leaker said there is more audio on Libby’s phone, but it is so garbled and hard to hear that LE did not feel it would be useful to the general public. However, Leaker said that LE cleaned the audio up and transcribed it as best as they could. BG accosted the girls and appears to have pulled his gun on them.
In brand new information, apparently one of the trail cams at the south end of the bridge where the abduction took place had been disabled. LE feels it was disabled prior to the crime. So BG came to the south end of the bridge before the crime occurred and disabled the camera. Once again, we see forward planning for this crime.
According to Leaker, after BG accosted the girls, he said he was a police officer and they were trespassing on private property (they were not). He said he had spotted them with his binoculars and had come to arrest them. I can now confirm that BG did have binoculars. BG then handcuffed the girls and said, “Down the hill.” The girls pleaded with him to let them go, that they are sorry and they won’t do it again, etc. but he told them they are under arrest.
Jesus Christ, this case is sad! Just thinking about that scenario with those girls pleading to be let go breaks my heart!
At the bottom of the hill, Libby’s shoe was found by searchers. To me this implies that she tried to run. How else does she lose her shoe?
What follows, according to the families of the girls who LE played the tape for, is six minutes of garbled conversation in which the girls and BG are talking as they walk through the woods, the sound of the forest floor crunching beneath their feet. At the six minute mark, BG and the girls can be heard starting to cross the creek, so the girls were definitely walked across the creek. This has been an odd source of contention. At that point, LE shut off the tape.
Leaker says that the audio continues after the girls crossed the creek and were marched to the kill zone, which appears to have been selected and prepared beforehand due to its visual and auditory seclusion. Next you hear a loud scream followed by a loud thump. This is apparently poor Abby screaming. The thump sound is thought to be BG hitting her over the head with a blunt object. We believe he hit her with the butt end of the handgun you can see in his right hand pocket of his jacket on the BG video. Abby may well have been knocked out cold by this blow.
Leaker concurred that Libby died via a deep knife wound to the throat. He also said that the murder weapon was a hunting knife.
I Was Able to Obtain Official Document(s) Relating to the Case!
And now I can release brand new information! I was able to obtain anywhere from 1-10 documents from the investigation. I am making the claim vague in this way because I have to protect the person I got this data from. They very much do not want it getting out that they were given these document(s). So I have to cover my tracks pretty well here because I don’t want to reveal my sources.
I’m an educated and trained journalist. One of the things we learned in J-school is that you have to protect your sources and value their confidentiality at all costs. We are supposed to go to jail instead of revealing our sources, and some of us have.
Therefore it is disconcerting to see constant accusations of me making up rumors or theories about this crime out of whole cloth. I can’t do that. That’s a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I’m an ethical journalist. I’m not talking about beating around the bushes of masking facts and truths as I did above with the documents statement. Journalists have lost their careers over doing that, and good luck getting hired again afterwards. It’s as bad as scientific misconduct is for a scientist.
Obviously I’ve been dying to get a hold of official documents about this case for four years now. We did briefly have contacts with a few LE sources, but they didn’t tell us a lot. We had maybe one LE source every two years on this case. So we don’t have any “special sources” about this case as my critics claim. What special sources? What are they talking about?
I assure you that it’s completely legal for the possessor of these document(s) to possess them. That’s all I’m going to say about that.
The document(s) came to me from the owner who lawfully possessed them..
The document(s) came from either LE or from the judicial system or possibly both at the same time. They are signed by official(s).
I was able to learn a number of things about this case from these document(s), some that have been released before, but others that have never been released or even rumored anywhere. I am absolutely certain of the truth of everything I write below based on my belief that these document(s) are authentic.
BG discharged a gun in the course of this crime. Perhaps the most amazing information of all is that this was a gun crime! The gun used was no doubt the one that can be seen in the right jacked pocket of BG. It’s a handgun. After the “guys” in the video, he apparently pulled his gun out and pointed it at the girls. He controlled them with the gun. We have assumed that from the very start of this case. But we never had any idea that a gun was fired during this crime!
We don’t know how the gun was used. We only know that it was discharged. Where, how, and why we don’t know. However, spent cartridges were found by LE, who says they were fired by BG. Did he fire them into the girls’ dead bodies? No idea. How does LE they know that the spent cartridges they found were fired by BG? No idea. But they do have spent cartridges from this crime and they are trying to find the gun used to fire them in order to do ballistics tests on it.
Leaker said that BG had binoculars. He told the girls when he accosted them that he had spotted them trespassing through his binoculars and he decided to come and arrest them. I can now verify Leaker’s statement because the document mentions binoculars. LE is looking for binoculars that were used in the crime.
There is more shocking information that was touched on earlier. I mentioned above that there was a rumor that BG had taken photos and video and had sent them to Abby’s phone after the crime. This rumor was affirmed by Leaker. However, I can now prove this is true because LE is looking for photos, videos, film, cameras, and/or videocameras. Any of those. Video were recorded by BG as he committed this crime. So he videotaped his crime as he committed it. Some people say they can see a Go Pro on BG’s person. We are uncertain about this.
Now how could LE possibly know that BG took video of his crime as he committed it? They can’t. But if he sent some of this video to Abby’s phone after the crime took place, then they know he shot video of the crime. Therefore the rumor that BG sent photos of the crime to Abby’s phone seems to be true.
In addition, the document says that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of the crime. No doubt this goes with the video that was shot, the video being of unknown length. We know this because in the documents, LE says they are looking for 43 seconds of audio.
LE is also looking for knives, presumably hunting knives as Leaker averred. The murder weapon in the case was a knife. This was not a gun crime in that a gun was not the murder weapon. That’s not to say the gun was not discharged into the victim(s) after they were deceased. Perhaps it was. We have no idea. But if that was the case, then this is still not a gun crime as the gun was not a homicide weapon. Then all BG is guilty of regarding shooting the gun would be mutilating a corpse.
LE is also looking for blood-soaked clothing. LE feels that this crime was so brutal (in particular the killing of Libby) that BG must have been covered in blood after he murdered that poor girl. The blood spray from such an attack would be serious. So LE is looking for the clothing he wore that day with bloodstains “seen and unseen.” I don’t understand the part about unseen bloodstains, but apparently when you get blood on your clothes, not all of it is visible and some can only be seen with special tools. Ever watched crime shows where they put a chemical on the crime scene that shows bloodstains as bright purple? I suppose they use that to uncover those unseen bloodstains.
Perhaps the most incredible fact in the document is LE stating that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Why is this important? On what day did this crime occur? On February 13, or 2-13. 2:13 and 2/13. Matches up, get it? Let’s play with this a bit more. He abducted and murdered 2 girls, one of whom was 13 years old. 2-13 again. 2:13, 2/13, and 2-13.
A physician friend of mine who might as well be Dr. Spock, such is his dedication to pure logic, has cast doubt on this connection. He immediately stated, “Coincidence!” (natch) when I told him about the two 2-13’s lining up perfectly.
However, LE thinks these two 2-13’s lining up perfectly was a significant enough event to be mentioned in their documents about the case. So LE thinks that fact that BG abducted those girls at precisely 2:13 in the afternoon is no coincidence.
This is all I have from these document(s). Make of it what you will. Keep in mind that these document(s) went through different people before the came to me.
Owner -> Professional -> Fellow sleuther -> Me.
There are two people between the owner and me. What do I have? I have a photocopy of the document. Could it be faked or forged? Maybe, but the professional would not do something like that. He’s as bound by his professional ethics as I am with mine.
Crime Scene Photos
I was also able to obtain some good crime scene photos for the first time. These have been out for six months now, having first appeared on Youtube in a video. They are from the same media helicopter footage as the crime scene photos we previously released here. They were presumably taken from the part of the footage where you can see many flashes going off in a circle around a location in the woods. Obviously CSI guys photographing the crime scene. These photos have been blown up and enhanced to Hell and back by everyone and their uncle. However, the photos I will discuss today are from this video.
The author is a theoretical physicist. Not that that means much, as kooks roam all fields, and kookery doesn’t discriminate, but I do think that adds weight to his analysis. Talk about logicians. We are talking about field like math where everything you say has to be backed up by formal proof. A fasifiability is a thing, and “not even wrong” is on the tip of everyone’s tongue.
The author claims a number of startling things in this video.
Outlines of the bodies of the two victims. I’ll vouch for that one.
A crucifix. Don’t see it.
A gigantic stuffed animal. No way. I can’t believe how many people believe this. Let’s not even get into the crazy discussion of this stupid stuffed animal and the dolls. That said, many things are possible in true crime, and this is one of them. I’m just not seeing it though. Extraordinary claims and extraordinary evidence and all that. God I hate that phrase but there’s a time and place for all things.
Dolls scattered around the scene. Nigga please.
An abandoned bleach bottle. Gong!
Abandoned clothing, in particular a girl’s top. Nah.
Weird messages scrawled all over the scene. I concur that one may be possible, but the rest I can’t see at all.
CSI guys wandering the scene. Nothing but blurs.
Keep in mind that for the above to be true, BG must have constructed this entire Disney World Crime Scene in a mere 45 minutes! Either he has superhuman powers or it didn’t happen. Occam’s forces me to choose the latter. How did he get all these animals and dolls down the crime scene? Come on. This crime’s weird enough as it is without taking things to outright science fiction.
Keep in mind that a lot of people claim they can’t see a damned thing in these photos, including the victims’ bodies, or that they were looking at pixels and graphics software playing games with us. Pareidolia. I hate that word, favorite of scientistic skeptards. But time and place, etc. Even the most abused notions have a proper application.
Leaker said that the girls were “posed in a sexual tableau.” That’s interesting except no one knows what it means.
John Kelly, retired FBI profiler who does excellent work and now makes his living being a media figure, felt in this recent video that the sexual tableau referred to the girls being posed in some sort of a lesbian sex act. He also suggested that BG had a deep obsession with lesbian pornography and that people around him would be aware of this. Assuming the photos below are valid interpretations, the girls are not posed in any obvious lesbian sex act. Perhaps they are posed in a milder, less than obvious one. As you can see, Abby’s hand is close to a “certain part” of Libby’s body. Whether that counts or not I have no idea.
However, assuming the images below are correct, both girls’ legs were spread very wide after they were killed. Libby was nude and Abby was nude from the waist down. That counts as sexual tableau. He did this to humiliate the girls after their deaths. One last Parthian Thrust before he walked away into the woods history. This is the posing part.
I agree with Kelly who says that killers who pose victims (“posers”) are some of the worst ones of all. They’re dark as Hell and they’re at the far end of the psychopathic spectrum. He also said that if he’s a poser, he should have killed again by now because these guys can’t control themselves, a reflection of their extreme pathology. He said that the only reason he hasn’t killed by now is because he’s afraid. Afraid that they’re onto him. Afraid of getting caught. Afraid of that one last knock on the door before the jail bars clang shut.
I have more to say about this crime as usual, but I’ve gone on long enough. More later.
I would like to apologize for the fact that these photos are very small. See if you can enlarge them. I don’t know how to fix this right now.
Rambo: From the very beginning of the Delphi case, a lot of people had sneaking suspicions that there was a better than average chance that the person or persons involved in this knew beforehand that the day of the crimes would be a school off-day for the girls. A lot of people’s first thought was someone connected with the girls’ school.
Yes, of course. It’s worse than that. He actually stalked Libby for four months beforehand. And the idea that this was a last minute decision has been proven wrong. The girls were discussing it as early as Friday because people who knew the girls were talking about their upcoming trip in local bars that night. And it looks like Libby posted on her Instagram at some point that she was going to the bridge.
I suppose he must have known Abby was going to be there too, so he may have targeted her in a sense too. Instagram is the site that he was catfishing Libby on with that young man’s photo.
This whole idea that he went to that crowded bridge that afternoon with his full-blown murder kit just to haphazardly see if he could find female or two to kill is insane. Others say he was just there to kill anyone, even a man. That’s even more insane. Further, I’m wondering if he’s into killing women. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. He’s not a pedophile, but he could be a hebephile, a very common sexual orientation. After all, 26% of all men could be classified as hebephiles or pedophiles!
13 and 14 is a bit young to be targeting females, but a number of serials have killed young teenage girls and women too because after all, teenage girls look like women! Face facts. Ted Bundy killed a 12 year old girl, but 12 year old girls are on the cusp of puberty and while they don’t look like women, they look enough like women that a lot of men are starting to find them “interesting.”
I believe Bundy also killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14, but he would never admit to that. He even implied in interviews that he had done some things that he would never admit to. Even for Ted Bundy, killing a little 8 year old girl was too low. Maybe not too low but just shameful. Bundy was a narcissist, a malignant narcissist. Perhaps he thought it was shameful to his reputation as the Greatest Serial Killer of All Time if he would admit to killing a little girl. It was a bridge too far.
This is fascinating because it implies that even the worst people of all think there are some things that are just beyond the pale.
Hitler was appalled by the mistreatment of animals. I guess he thought Jews and Slavs were below animals. And one of the worst Nazis of all, Goebbels, has a bit of a moral compass. In the early days of the Holocaust, they were just lining Jews up and shooting them with firing squads. Goebbels witnessed one of these shootings and he completely freaked out. He broke down in front of everyone, started crying, just carried on. And he decreed that there was to be no more of this or they needed to get away from that as quickly as possible.
The next step was not the gas chambers as everyone thinks. Instead it was “gas vans.” Jews were killed in these vans for a while before the Final Solution was agreed upon at the Wansee Conference in 1942 and they moved to the chambers in the name of efficiency but also because they wanted to kill people in as sterile of clean way as possible, in an almost antiseptic was hidden way the same way your cat is kindly quickly, efficiently and cruelly when it is taken to the vet for the last time.
Murder is murder but when you do it as cleanly as possible, it’s easier to rationalize it. If you murder in a cold and cruel way, it seems horrible as disgust sets in and it seems like you really did kill them. If you do it clean, in your mind you can make it seem that you didn’t really “kill” them in the same way as if you chopped them to pieces. Of course it makes no sense, but we are emotional creatures so we are not purely logical and our conscious and especially subconscious mind is “irrational” that can only be understood if we are using “emotional logic” instead of “pure logic” or the logic of Spock on Star Trek.
So they went to the gas chambers. But at first they were not burning the bodies. They were burying them in mass graves, especially at a few little known camps that were truly extermination camps such as Sobibor and Theresienstat. All of these were in Poland. It is odd that Auschwitz is more famous than these extermination camps while Auschwitz was less exterminationist than these others. 15% of the inmates at Auschwitz survived.
After all, it was first and foremost a labor camp. It sounds awful that 85% of them were killed of course, but at some of those Polish extermination camps it was even worse. There was one that killed 900,000 people. There were perhaps 30 survivors who ran for it into the local woods at the very end as the Allies were closing in. Even most of these escapees were killed. Only .0003 percent survived. 15% is a Hell of a lot more than .0003%.
Anyway, Goebbels was at one of those extermination camps and he saw the mass graves where they had buried maybe 10,000’s on inmates. It had been raining and the bloating from the decaying corpses was so extreme owing to the rain and sheer number of the dead that the ground beneath them was literally rising up and falling as they were standing on it. The Earth was alive but in a terrible way.
Once again, Goebbels completely flipped out, got hysterical, started yelling and crying and said no more mass graves. This is how the ovens were added to the gas chambers. To eliminate dead bodies in a more efficient and especially less disgusting way. Once again if you put them in ovens, you can almost rationalize it away. All that’s left are ashes and it’s hard to see those are former humans. Your mind can always tell you, “Oh those are just ashes, that’s all. Not formerly human corpses.” Again this is not logical, but according to emotional logic, it makes complete sense.
It’s interesting that three of the most evil men of the 20th Century actually had a moral compass. A very tiny and meager one for sure, but some things were beyond the pale even for them. One wonders if there has ever been a human with no moral compass at all if one such a human is even possible. Even wild animals have moral compasses. A female mountain lion won’t kill her cubs. A male mountain lion won’t kill his mate.
It’s also interesting that if the kill people and get rid of bodies in as cold, efficient, sterile and maybe democratic way as possible, the mind can rationalize that you’re not “really” killing people and disappearing bodies.
It has now come out that there are religious aspects to the Delphi Murders case out of Delphi, Indiana from 2017. The scene of killings was staged in some sort of a religious or occult manner. I have no details on this, but I do believe that a cross or a crucifix was left at the scene where these girls were murdered. There may be other religious aspects to the case.
Some of these type of killers – sexually motivated killers of women, often young women or serial killers in general – are “religious avengers” out to kill “sluts” and “whores” to clean up the world for God, but these girls murdered in Delphi were obviously neither, so I doubt that’s a factor here. I suppose they’re fairly pristine in that sense.
In addition, these killers guys tend to target actual prostitutes as part of their “whore cleanup project.” Obviously neither of these girls were employed as prostitutes.
These killers think they are ridding the world of bad women, and there’s obviously a lot of misogyny too. Although this type of killer is not very common, there have been a few. There’s even a “type” like that. I think it’s called Messianic Serial Killer. He’s on a mission from God, so to speak.
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154 million votes actual results
Biden 80 million votes 51.1% Trump 74 million votes 47.2% Separation: 6 million votes Biden +3.9% Pre-election polls: Biden +8.2% Match between pre-election and exit polls and actual results: Trump +4.1% (large red shift) Theft: 6.5 million votes Trump +4.1%
This is a blatant example of massive election fraud by the Republicans via hacking of voting machines (mostly ESS machines) in almost every state because almost every state uses voting machines that in general cannot even be monitored or checked for election theft because the vote printout it gives you about your choices might be false. In other words, the machine would tell you you voted exactly as you did, but then it would mis-record your votes.
In states like Pennsylvania, it is even harder to prove election fraud. It necessitates actually looking at the hardware and software in a forensic sense. Recently, Virginia went to all hand-counted paper ballots for state elections. The next year there was a Democratic sweep of the state and polls and exit polls were right on the money.
It is important to note that aggregate polls and exit polls were right on the money in the US for decades until the onset of computerized voting in 2002. Computerized voting was put in in that year via HAVA – Help America Vote Act – written by Karl Rove and Jack Abramoff. This was actually the start of a plot to steal our elections.
A few voting machine companies were set up, all run by radical rightwing Republicans, often Christian Dominionists. The money behind all of the firms came from the Bush and Romney families. These families still own most of these voting machine companies to this day. Dominion was sold to another company and the new owners appear to be Democrats.
It’s not true that Democrats are in on the election theft too because only Republicans control the voting machines. But the hacking even involves Democratic elections. The Clinton-Sanders primaries were hacked by Republicans to give the victory to Clinton. In many cases, the hacks simply pick the most conservative candidate, even on the Democratic side.
Furthermore there appears to have been massive hacking of state elections all across the US, the result being Republican Legislatures, Senates, and Governors in many states that consistently vote Democratic. These state governments then put in gerrymandering rules that make it almost impossible for the Democrats to win. For instance, in Wisconsin, Democrats would have to win 65% of the vote to take over the Legislature and Congress due to gerrymandering.
Obviously all gerrymandering must be made illegal as it’s anti-Democratic. But Democrats engage in gerrymandering when they’re in power too. What happened was that in the last two decades, when the electorate was 10-20 points more Democratic than Republican, the Democrats suffered inexplicable losses all across the country. This makes no sense. A +15 point Democrat electorate should be winning elections for Democrats on a regular basis.
After 2002, for the first time, aggregate polls and exit polls started going off badly. The Idiocracy in our media and political classes twisted themselves into all sorts of doughnut shapes to try to explain this. The theories are many, varied, and all equally preposterous. Somehow we always seem to “miss” countless Republicans who never answer either pre-election or exit polls!
Even Nate Silver at 538.com has bought into the “terrible polling and exit polling failures” nonsense. The Democratic Party, especially the DNC and Markos at Daily Kos, has utterly refused to consider that our elections might be being hacked. That’s too much to bear for them. Their excuse is, “If we admitted our elections are being stolen on a massive scale, Americans would lose faith in our elections and in our democracy.”
There’s also the insane attitude of our media and political elites that conspiracy theory is always false. Hence the truth about our stolen elections is relegated to conspiracy theory and tinfoil hat territory. There is so much lying, misdirection, bias, provocations, tricks, false flags, fake attacks, and overt conspiracy theory in Western relations that I feel instead that conspiracy theory may be the only proper mode in which to analyze modern geopolitical reality in the West.
Put another way, here in the West, we are getting to the point where conspiracy theory is simply the normal, day to day operation of the state. This also extends to political parties and mass movements themselves.
In our modern era here in the West, it might be better to say that Life Itself Is Now a Conspiracy Theory. False flags have certainly become so common that they are nearly normal now.
Parables for Paranoids: As long as they can keep you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about the answers.
– Thomas Pynchon, Gravity’s Rainbow (1973)
Well, we don’t have a democracy here. That should be clear to anyone, especially after two decades of election theft and election fraud along with gerrymandering and massive voter suppression at the polls. Any country that has gerrymandering, election fraud, and voter suppression as the hallmarks of its electoral process cannot possibly be a democracy. America has not been a democracy in a long time, probably for most of its history. The America as a shining beacon of democracy” lie is nevertheless believed by most Americans and millions of dupes and rubes around the world.
Notice that the aggregate pre-election polls were 8.2% and the exit polls were 7.9%. That is an almost perfect match. The exit polls were correct as usual. And the pre-election polls were also good if we look at the perfect lineup between pre-election and exit polls. But Biden won by only 3.9%, a theft of 4.1 percentage points or an astonishing 6.5 million votes.
The Republicans have been using voting machines to steal elections since 2002. Apparently they have access to the software in the ESS machines somehow. And it looks like ESS is in on it. Diebold was in on it in the past. All the voting machine companies are run by radical rightwing Republicans.The plot started with Karl Rove and Jack Abraham’s HAVA or Help America Vote Act in 2002.
Our elections haven’t been right ever since. This is an operation being run by Karl Rove. Rove is on record as telling a woman that when it is within 3%, we can steal the election, but when it is more than that, we can’t because it looks too bad. But in this last election they tried to steal elections where they were 8-10 points down, so I guess they’re even chucked that courtesy.
The voting machine companies are in on it too, in particular ESS. They are owned by members of the Bush and Romney families, so it looks like the Bushes and Romneys are in on the election theft. McDonnell at least knows about. Trump stole the election in 2016 with machines. Same with Bush in the 2004 election. I do not think the Republicans have access to the Dominion machines anymore now that they have been sold. That’s why Georgia elections are pretty fair.
Look up a book called Red Shift. It documents the whole plot.
No one believes it. People I know have been screaming at the major media and the Democratic Party for years about this, but no one will touch it with a 10 foot pole. It’s “conspiracy theory.” Also these clowns say we can’t admit to that because “It will cause Americans to lose faith in our democracy.”
A lot of those Republican state governments were stolen in the same way. Now they are so gerrymandered that the Democrats can’t possibly win. To get back control of the Wisconsin Legislature, Democrats have to win 65% of the vote in the state – that’s how gerrymandered it is. A simple 51% won’t cut it anymore.
The “massive poll and exit poll failures” only started in 2002 with the placement of voting machines in our elections. Before that they were on the money. Aggregate polls and exit polls are never off in any fair election. When the results don’t match the aggregate polls and exit polls, it’s always due to fraud.
The Democrats are insane. They are willing to let the Republicans completely destroy the country and even our democracy so “Americans won’t lose faith in our democracy.” Idiots!
It might seem otherwise but it’s actually true. I hang out on places like Daily Kos. All of the people I follow on Twitter are progressive or liberal Democrats. To me, the Republican Party is the enemy, especially this blatantly fascist latest version. Thing is though, don’t be fooled. They’ve always been like this.
I’ve been on the Left my whole life. People keep telling me I’m a conservative, so I’ve been researching conservatism all over the world. I more or less hate it everywhere. It always the same garbage, against everything I stand for. I know I take a lot of anti-SJW points on here and I don’t write many liberal articles, but that’s because my audience has been mostly conservatives and Republicans forever.
Most liberals hate me and don’t even ask about the people further left, who seem to want me dead. Liberals come here for a bit and then freak out and run away, screaming, “Racist! Sexist! Misogynist! Homophobic! Transphobic! Bigoted! Conservative!” It’s sad because I’m probably left on the vast majority of issues and I’m only conservative on some social issues, and even then, I’m not as conservative as a Republican social conservative. But liberals and Democrats are party-liners nowadays, as bad as Communists.
So I’ve never had much of a liberal audience, and hence there’s no audience for me to write for. But I’m definitely a man of the Left. And the Republican Party is absolutely fascist in its present orientation, Trump’s presidency has been a horrorshow that doesn’t even seem real because it’s so beyond anything I’ve experienced. And right now, of course Trump is trying to steal an election. Really the Republican Party is trying to overthrow a liberal winner of an election with a coup.
That’s what the Latin American Right does. I said the other day that our breed is starting to resemble them. The Latin American Right believes in minority rule forever and they also believe that the Left has no right to rule their countries, no matter how many elections they win. They’re simply not allowed to win.
If they lose an election, they typically scream fraud when there never is any, or they foment a military (Honduras), legislative (Paraguay), judicial (Brazil), or economic (Venezuela) coup of some sort or another. The Latin American Right is absolutely fascist in character and behavior.
There is absolutely zero evidence for any of the crazy voter fraud (actually election fraud) allegations levelled by the Republicans. I’ve studied them all in depth. For one thing, there’d be a vast blue shift in the difference between the outcome and the exit and pre-election polls. Instead there were a mere two blue shifts.
And there were 39 red shifts, many of large percentages. There is no way on Earth you could possible have 39 red shifts, often of a significant number of points, in any election. Poll failure, especially massive failure of all the polls – mass poll failure, does not occur. The polls are not rigged for the Democrats. In particular, exit polls pretty much never go off. They can’t. Any time you have mass shifts in outcomes versus exit polls, the only explanation is fraud.
In a number of states, the Republicans stole up to 10 points. They’ve never been this brazen before. I’d tell you if the Democrats cheated and they didn’t. The Republicans are projecting. They’re the ones who engage in election fraud via the voting machines that they own and run.
The latest appalling news is that the legislatures of 17 Republican state governments (many stolen with voting machine election fraud, particularly in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, and Wisconsin. They had a lot of help from gerrymandered districts that make it almost impossible for a Democrat to carry them.
Outrageously, the Supreme Court approved these blatantly anti-democratic gerrymanders. The Republicans have been engaging in mass voter suppression for 20 years now. When you have mass voter suppression, you do not have democracy. When you have gerrymandered districts that the opposition can never win, you do not have democracy. When you have continuous election theft via electoral fraud with voting machines for two decades, you do not have a democracy.
I don’t know why Democratic morons keep screaming about saving our democracy. Supposedly we just rescued our democracy this time around. Like Hell we did. We simply made a dent in the rightwing authoritarian government we have had for at least 20 years in this country. America has no democracy. We are an authoritarian state – a dictatorship in a sense. Americans need to quit insisting we have a democracy here. That went away a long time ago.
The trick now is to get it back, which is the project I support. I support bringing democracy back to the US and rescuing it from this rightwing corporate dictatorship. And for that we need to do some extreme things like pack the Supreme Court, expand the lower courts and pack them too, add DC and Puerto Rico (if they wish) as new states, etc. I don’t want to fill the judges’ seats with unfair partisan Democrats. Then we will be replacing their Republican dictatorship with a Democratic dictatorship. I will settle for fair-minded justices who are committed to bring back our democracy and sustaining it going forward.
I remember watching the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968. That was pretty impressive. Saw the whole thing on TV at age 10. I was already quite interested in politics and foreign affairs at that age. Mayor Daly, a Democrat, hauled his cop goons out and they set about busting heads. Not long after that was the Days of Rage, and that’s when the peaceful antiwar movement petered out. Now the antiwar movement had a violent wing.
Out of this wing grew the Weathermen. The Weathermen and others set off 50,000 bombs in US in the early 1970’s. The almost always phoned them in ahead of time so people could be evacuated and they usually went off in the middle of the night.
They did kill one man, a graduate student at the University of Wisconsin, staying late in the lab when a Weathermen bomb went off at 3 AM. Everyone screams about that, but the Weathermen were trying to stop the war. That’s what all the bombs were about. They killed one guy. How many did Nixon kill? Who killed more? The Weathermen were trying to end the war and save lives. Was Nixon? Hardly.
I still support the bombing campaign of the Weathermen to this day. In fact, in the 1980’s, I was on the mailing list of their aboveground organization, the John Brown Book Club out of the Bay Area. I got their bimonthly, Breakthrough. They were already pretty insane by them. Hell they were insane back in the day.
Remember that lunatic Bernadine Dohrn’s crazy rants praising the Manson murders? These idiots were already on the “White people are evil” thing. Dohrn would give speeches telling young White women to kill their White babies after they were born so as not to create more evil White people.
Ten years later, in 1981, they hooked up with some crazies called the Black Liberation Army. I believe the BLA was a radical split from the Black Panthers. In the early 1970’s, debate swirled around the Panthers. The war was still on. The Panthers had not achieved their goals. But they were still ostensibly committed to more or less peaceful change. At least they were not committed to open armed struggle.
The bomb-throwers called the peaceful change types sellouts. They felt, as usual, that peaceful change would get them nowhere and the only way to achieve their revolutionary goals was armed struggle. Most of this group split off from the Panthers and the Panthers said good riddance. Attempts to link the Black Panthers to the BLA radical armed revolutionaries are false and sleazy. Don’t fall for it. The Panthers were ok.
Joanne Chesimard (Assata Shakur) was one of their most famous guerrillas. They were completely insane of course, like all the armed groups back then, but I have to admit she was one badass bitch. She’s in Cuba now.
She’s wanted for the shooting death of a police officer who was killed in a shootout with BLA members they pulled over in a car. She’s innocent. She got shot and was badly hurt. Hell, she was in the back seat and didn’t even have a gun. The driver, a man, fired most of the shots including the bullet that killed the cop. He himself was killed.
Incredibly, Chesimard escaped after that shootout (!). She was later imprisoned in a federal prison but the her comrades in the BLA actually broke her out of a federal prison in Florida by disguising themselves as workers delivering linen to the prison. They broke her out in a wild scene and even managed to escape. Chesimard then vanished off the face of the Earth for 2 years.
Actually she was underground, but you have to realize that the Weathermen, etc. were being helped by a huge network of maybe 1 million people, the vast majority of whom have never been caught and have never even been suspected of a crime. 2 years later, Chesimard mysteriously popped up in Cuba!
In 1981, the remains of the Weathermen had taken up the radical Black cause of the BLA, who were Black separatists who wanted to set up a Black state. The remaining Weathermen apparently felt that Blacks were the leading edge of the revolution.
See the parallels nowadays with BLM? The similarities don’t end there. The leadership of BLM itself and its associated organizations includes the remains of the old Weathermen, now reorganized as the Prairie Fire Organizing Committee, still Communists but now apparently pursuing the peaceful road to power.
Another group called the Freedom Road Socialist Organization is also behind a lot of the BLM protests, especially the violent aspects. These are also Communists. I hate to give credit to wild rightwing accusations, but I assure you that the leadership of BLM and its associated organizations are literally Marxists and Communists.
The Weathermen and the BLA robbed a Brinks truck in September 1981 and a wild shootout ensued. Some guards were killed along with a some BLA men. It looks like the BLA were the ones who shot the guards. They were pulled over on the freeway and BLA fighters burst out of the back of the van, guns blazing. More people died. The survivors got away again but were quickly caught. So there ended the saga of the Weathermen.
The FBI conducted raids of activists associated with the Weathermen and the BLA soon afterwards but they came up empty-handed. Everyone had been tipped off and fled ahead of the feds. In one case, the suspects had left so quickly that the coffee kettle was literally still heating on the stove when the FBI burst in. I’m wondering if the Weathermen and BLA had people inside federal law enforcement who tipped them off.
The Weathermen who were arrested in the Brinks robbery, including a few women, are still in prison. One, (((Kathy Boudin))) died in prison of cancer recently. Incredibly, her son, who is probably quite radical himself, recently won the election for District Attorney for the city of San Francisco!
Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers went underground and stayed there for ~20 years (I told you they had a good support network), but were captured after decades on the lam. They were given very short sentences and pretty much let off the hook. I heard Ayers on the radio recently and he was completely unrepentant, defending every bomb the Weathermen ever set off.
They are both now professors in the Education Department of the University of Chicago. They are in deep with the Democratic Party in the area the Democratic city government in Chicago and are pretty much political fixtures in Chicago. Yes, Barack Obama appeared at a couple of roundtables where they were present. Much was made of this by the Retard Right, but there’s less there than their seems. Everyone who is anyone in Democratic politics in Chicago knows Ayers and Dohrn.
They’re cleaned up now anyway and for all intents and purposes, they’re respectable citizens. What’s wrong with this stupid country anyway? In Latin America, former armed Leftist guerrillas lay down arms and then get elected to top posts in the government. The Presidents of Uruguay and Brazil in recent years were both former armed guerrillas from long ago. Why are we so hung up and weird? Let me know when we join the rest of the continent of the Americas, as is our inevitable destiny .
First of all, all three of these men were absolutely antifa, but antifa is not a group. Instead it’s an idea. It’s like saying they were all Communists or anarchists. Are you going to make an organization called “Communism” or “anarchism” illegal? See how dumb it is to try to make antifa illegal? Antifa’s not an organization, and you can’t ban an idea. At least not yet. Don’t worry though, the SJW’s are working on it!
First, 37 (not 38 as everyone says) year old Joseph M. Rosenbaum, later Joseph Don Rosenbaum, after a name change. His race is often given as White, but prison records actually list it as Wigger.
I learned quite a bit about this fellow in doing in depth research into this charming fellow yesterday afternoon.
Born in Texas. At some point moves to Pima County, Arizona, where his father appears to be an attorney.
At age 16, he appears to have married in Arizona. He seems to have divorced afterwards, but there’s no record of it.
Around age 18, he enrolls at Pima County Community College, but his time there is short.
At age 18 in 1992, he is sentenced to 12 years in prison on what looks like two counts for Sexual Contact with a Minor, 10 years for one count and 2 years for the other count. I have revised my view of this crime, and I now think he raped a 15-17 year old girl with either force or drugs.
He ends up suing the state for prison conditions a couple of times, once because his toilet overflows. The toilets are terrible in those places, I must say. I think they are designed to overflow.
He gets out in 2014, now aged 30. But he hasn’t learned much as the first thing he does after he gets out is get arrested for absconding on parole. He’s sentenced in 2016 and apparently serves one year for this offense. He seems to act better this time in prison. I did find some documents on this case, but nothing much of interest.
I think for all of these cases, someone would need to go to Pima County Superior Court and do a record search.
He moves to Wisconsin at some point, and he ends up being the father of a two year old child. The girlfriend and child live in Waco, Texas, Rosenbaum’s hometown. When he moves to Wisconsin, he has to register on the Sex Offender Registry, but he’s listed as non-compliant.
He has a conviction for Carrying a Firearm while Intoxicated. He also has a record for the minor crimes of Disobeying an Officer and Disturbing the Peace (Excessive Noise). He was affiliated with an antifa grouping called People’s Revolution. A member of this group has been accused of shooting at a police officer in Wawatosa, Wisconsin. He’s generally considered to be White. We tried to find information to see whether his race was White or Wigger, but we were unable to find any. Please comment with any updates on Grosskreutz’ race.
I find this quite shocking that so many of these White rioters have criminal records. It’s almost like antifa are a bunch of criminals!
Rittenhouse, 17 years old, of Antioch, Illinois is a member of a group called The Libertarians. There are reports that he is also associated with the Three Percenters, but these are not verified. There are also reports that his social media sites (now wiped) are full of White Supremacist and misogynist content, however, none of those posts was produced. There’s no evidence at all that he is a White Supremacist or a misogynist. Kyle is a cop-fan and served as a police explorer. He is a member of many Blue Lives Matter groups. He’s also apparently quite good with an automatic weapon. He’s obviously had some sort of training.
Kyle answers a call on Facebook for people to go to Kenosha on the third day of the stupid riots over nothing there in order to defend the innocent businesses that are getting destroyed, looted, and torched. Kyle and a group of 300 other men answer the call to go protect the businesses. Kyle is armed with an AR-15 automatic weapon, which shouldn’t even be legal in the first place and is in fact not legal for him to possess due to his age. He also brings along a first aid kit to help any injured protestors.
There is a photo of him erasing graffiti on a public building the previous day. The cities in his area have been hit by Black Lives Matter protests/riots for some time now. A woman who lives across the street from Kyle said everyone there is sick of these riots, which she attributed to outsiders coming into their city. She also stated that there were cases of Whites being pulled out of their cars and beaten for the crime of Being White, soon to be a misdemeanor in the US. It’s not illegal to be White yet, but don’t worry, the SJW’s are working on it.
Kyle drives himself to the riots. A rumor that his Mom drives him is not true. He joins the rest of the militia. At one point, a police vehicle stops and asks the group if they want anything, such as water. Kyle says he wants water, and a bottle is thrown to him. There is also a report that police congratulated the militia for what they were doing. Personally, I think it’s great that these brave men answered the call of their land and their people to go to Kenosha to protect perfectly innocent businesses from getting destroyed. Kyle is also interviewed by a citizen journalist that evening.
At some point later on that night, a disturbance ensues. From what we can tell, an antifa mob is chasing Kyle and threatening him. Kyle is terrified and is running away from them. (((Joseph Rosenbaum))) throws an object at him that appears to be a Molotov cocktail but is not. He then pursues Kyle through the gas station where Kyle has taken refuge from the violent mob pursuing him. A shot is fired by a man who is also pursuing Kyle behind (((Rosenbaum))). Kyle turns around at the sound of the shot.
Soon (((Rosenbaum))) closes in on him and is on top of him or almost on top of him. He tried to take Kyle’s gun away. Kyle wrestles the gun away and fires four shots at (((Rosenbaum))), hitting him in various places on his body, most importantly one shot to the head. I feel that this is straight up self-defense of a man assaulting him and trying to take his gun away from him. If you try to take a gun away from a lawfully armed person, they can shoot you to keep you from taking your gun away, as you may well use it on them after you take it. This is no murder. It’s Justifiable Homicide.
A crowd forms around (((Rosenbaum))), trying to help him. (((Rosenbaum))) will later die of his wounds. Kyle hovers on the edge of the crowd for a bit. He pulls out his phone and calls a friend, reporting that he just shot a man. He is soon running away from the people around the dying man. He starts running faster. Antifa start yelling that Kyle has just shot a man.
Kyle runs into the street, pursued by an angry mob of antifa yelling to get him. A shot is heard. Kyle turns around in responses. He then turns around again and keeps running down the middle of the street. He trips and falls. The mob sets on him. The first antifa runs up to him and kicks him in the head! Kyle turns and fires at him, but misses.
Soon a second antifa, (((Anthony Huber))) – hey wait, what’s with all these parentheses? You’d almost be inclined to think that antifa are a bunch of Jews!
(((Huber))) sets on Kyle and smashes him in the head with a skateboard. Also tries to grab Kyle’s gun. Kyle turns around and shoots at (((Huber))), hitting in the chest. Huber staggers backwards. He later dies also. This shot was also absolutely in self-defense.
Next Kyle is approached by antifa Gaige Grosskreutz.
I know what you are thinking, but he’s actually a German. Wisconsin is full of Germans, you know. And there are not many Jews. Probably all the Jews in Wisconsin showed up for those riots.
Grosskreutz is armed with a Glock pistol and charges rapidly at Kyle, closing in on him. Kyle shoots him once, incredibly blowing part of the man’s arm away. Hey, assault weapons are weapons of war, you know? Gaige later said that the only thing he regretted was that he didn’t kill Kyle.
This was absolutely a self-defense shot.
The rest of the crowd runs away and some put up their hands. Kyle then starts walking. Some shots are fired off, apparently warning shots fired by Kyle. After a while, Kyle is walking. He approaches a fire truck and two police vehicles. He attempts to flag them down to let them know he just shot three men, but the police can’t be bothered. They soon descend on the scene, rope it off, and try to figure out what happened.
A warrant is later issued for Kyle’s arrest and he is found in Lake County, Illinois. He is charged with a couple of counts of First Degree Murder for the first two (((kills))) and a count of attempted murder for the shot that hit Grosskreutz.
As far as I am concerned, this kid is innocent. All shots were absolutely fired in self-defense. You know, it’s not a good idea to attack an armed man. He has the right to use that gun to defend himself, you know?
I obviously don’t care if he’s a misogynist, and I doubt if he is anyway. He’s a bit young for woman-hating. I used to argue against the notion that gay men hated women. I used to tell women I dated that in order to truly hate women, a man would have to be a heterosexual! This always brought down the house believe it or not, and for some reason I often had sex with them soon after I said that. Almost like apologizing for straight men’s misogyny turns women on.
I also don’t care about the White Supremacy, which hasn’t been proven anyway. If he is, that is lamentable, but it doesn’t detract from his heroic deeds. And yes, to me, Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero. He blew away two SJW’s and badly wounded a third, something I’ve been itching to do forever now (but never will of course, as I am generally homicidal only in fantasy).
I don’t care about his politics either. Of course he’s hard rightwing. Everyone against antifa/BLM (AB for short) and SJWism in general is rightwing, often hard rightwing. And everyone on the left and center is either supporting AB and SJWism or, in the case of some Centrists, have gone neutral. Everyone that is except for me and hopefully some other folks on the Alternative Left. We’re probably the only people on the left cheering Kyle on, but then, we’ve always been weird.
To me, Kyle is a man with a message. He looked around and saw that his nation were under threat from violent, destructive SJW’s, anarchists, Western Commies, radicalized ghetto Blacks, and other assorted dipshits. Our buildings are in rubble, looted, and aflame for no damned good reason at all. His nation was under attack by violent mobs of brainwashed shitheads.
For BLM. For a lie. Because BLM has always been nothing but a gigantic lie.
Amidst all of this, Kyle Rittenhouse sent a message:
The latest police shooting of a Black man, Jacob Blake, age 29, occurred yesterday at 5 PM in Kenosha, Wisconsin. He is still alive, but he was shot seven times in the back. Of course, Blake was basically ghetto, a thug and career criminal.
The vast majority of these young Blacks getting shot, often fatally, by police are not good people at all to say the least. What sort of people have regular run-in’s with the police. Not fine upstanding citizens. They’re ghetto thugs and thugettes. They’re shitty people. Now, I’m not saying shitty people should be shot. You may well be a few million young Black men who are pretty damn lousy people. But I don’t support killing any of them. Even the ones in prison for terrible crimes. I just don’t believe in executing people no matter how awful they are, sorry.
But don’t fool yourself that most any of these people are any good. Most are real lousy people, to say the least.
Blake, who looks horribly ghetto, has a criminal record. Two years ago, he pulled a gun on people in a bar. When police arrived, he refused to cooperate with officers and had to be taken down by a police dog. Seems like he had a death wish, conscious or unconscious. This almost looks like a suicide by cop.
Police officers are sent to an address with a report of a domestic disturbance. There is a fight going on there between several ghetto Black women. Blake indeed does break up the fight.
WARNING: this video is extremely graphic.
Police in Kenosha, Wisconsin appear to shoot a man seven times in the back at point blank range after he ignores commands. We’re no other non-lethal methods considered, @KenoshaPolice? pic.twitter.com/dO4VimGCky
As the video opens, there is enough of a commotion for someone to start filming. Police already have their guns out as the video opens, which never happens unless something very serious is going on.
A struggle is going on on the other side of the car, probably because he’s resisting arrest like almost all these guys are, which is pretty much why they get shot in the first place. He’s down on the ground. One cop punches him in the ribs and another cop tazes him to get him under control. But a Tazer only knocks you out for five seconds. Blake gets up and all three cops jump backwards and pull out their weapons. He’s apparently armed himself with something, apparently a knife.
The video on this page shows that Blake was involved in a huge fight with police before he gets free of them, whips out a knife, and starts to walk away.
He gets up after being tazed and walks along the opposite side of the car.
An object appears in Blake’s left hand. Turns out it’s a knife, apparently a karambit knife with a curved blade. This is an Indonesian silat knife.
He turns in front of the car, the police looking very alarmed and still yelling for him to drop the object. It sounds like they are yelling, “Drop the gun!” but they could be yelling, “Drop the knife!”You can still see the knife in his hand.
He turns and starts moving down the near side of the car heading for the driver’s seat. The police are right behind him, yelling. He opens the car door and starts to get in. Police are pulling on his shirt to try to pull him out of the car. He seems to bend down into the car and appears to be reaching for something behind the driver’s seat under the seat. Suddenly the police start shooting. Seven shots are fired. Correct, into his back.
However, there is now a rumor that when Blake was fighting with police, he said he was going to get a gun out of his car. Then he walks over to the car, opens the door, and appears to reach down behind and under the front seat. Guess what? This is exactly where he keeps his gun. In that very car too. We know this because in a previous arrest, his car was searched and his gun was found in this precise place. That’s an excellent reason to shoot him right there, gun or no gun, it doesn’t matter.
This combined with the previous incident shows strong tendencies towards suicide by cop. Whether these young Black men are actually suicidal or are just so angry that they don’t care, I’m not sure. At a certain point, you’re so furious that you don’t care if you live or die. It’s not suicidality. It’s like being in a war. Instead of being suicidal, I think a lot of these young Black men are blinded by rage and consciously or not wish to go down fighting. Like a lot of soldiers in wartime.
A very ghetto Black woman shows up and starts screaming hysterically. The video ends. Blake’s three children are sitting in the car and witness their father getting shot. Not a very good experience for them.
From the looks of it, Blake was resisting arrest, like almost all of these idiots.
Quite honestly, if Blake has that knife in his hand, and he won’t drop it, police have a right to shoot him right there, sorry. I don’t see why police have to wait until the suspect actually tries to stab them with the knife before they start shooting. He could have easily stabbed that cop pulling on his shirt. And that cop could have died. Got a knife in your hand and won’t drop it, get shot. Furthermore, by his own admission, he appears to be reaching for a gun in his car.
Large protests follow. The crowds are mostly mixed people with BLM signs. Interestingly, the crowds are half-White and half-Black.
Riots follow in the night. The rioters seem to be more Black than the very mixed protestors, but there are some White rioters too. It’s hard to tell because it’s so dark. There is a video of people smashing up a storefront with bricks and all of these rioters were Black. People with guns are leading the mobs. A man with a gun shoots up a police car. Trash trucks are set on fire. An entire city block is in flames. A parking lot full of cars goes up in flames. A police officer is hit in the head with a brick, a potentially deadly weapon, and goes down.
In other words, much of the usual mayhem ensues. The governor of Wisconsin issues a provocative statement attacking police and sympathizing with the rioters. Very irresponsible.
It is now daylight. The riots went on through the night. It is now calm and there are calls to come clean up the damage.
Alpha Unit: I am responding to this narrative that all this destruction and violence is a “Black” thing. That’s not the whole story.
I would agree with you that the riots are not all a Black thing. Head on over to American Renaissance and see how these are being portrayed as Black riots. Well, there are Black riots in this country, but these don’t really qualify. In some cities, in these riots it is mostly Blacks rioting. Those are cities in the South like Atlanta, Louisville, Birmingham, and some other places that elude me at the moment. I believe there were Whites in the crowd in Atlanta though.
In general, the rioters were a mix of young Black, Hispanic, and White men, mostly antisocial and living on the edge of society, most without decent or any jobs or much to lose. I saw many young men rioting right alongside the Blacks. The Whites looked like skate punk and Antifa types. A lot of Whites were holding up BLM signs and chanting BLM slogans.
In LA, most of the rioters tended to be Hispanics.
In Las Vegas, the crowd was very mixed, mostly Hispanics with some Whites, even including White women, with a few Blacks in the mix too. The white rioters seemed to have more of the fancier materials you need to start a riot.
In Minneapolis, many of those smashing and setting things on fire were young White men, often skate punk types. In some cases, they worked right alongside inner city type Blacks. However, I did see an interview with a Minneapolis Black gang member who said that all of the gangs in the city (mostly Black) were working together in these riots to cause mayhem even though a lot of them were enemies normally. So there is also a criminal gang element, but that shouldn’t be surprising.
The riots seem quite multiracial in New York, but it was hard to get a breakdown. There were a lot of Blacks but also some Whites.
There were many Whites in the Washington DC riots but also a lot of Blacks of course.
Rioters in Seattle and Portland tended to be young antifa type Whites.
Chicago seemed to have a lot of Blacks, but there were also Whites mixed in.
The truth is that these for the most part are multiracial riots. Yes, many rioters are Black, but there are quite a few young White and Hispanic men in the mix.
I will say one thing. It seems like most of the looting is being done by Blacks. I did see a few Whites looting in Minneapolis and New York. Hispanics are known to loot but I’m not aware of how many of them did. In the Rodney King riots, the looters were heavily Black and Hispanics. However, when they moved up to Hollywood, a lot of more or less regular young White men got in on, targeting high end items.
I was happy to see the stores of the rich looted and smashed up though. That’s who they should be targeting.
Looting does tend to be a Black thing. Hispanics don’t seem to loot as much, and it seems like a lot of Whites, even White rioters, are averse to looting. A White rioter will smash stuff up, set a building on fire but then refuse to loot other buildings. Not sure why that is, but I think Antifa doesn’t like looting. Plus a lot of Whites are afraid to steal or perhaps they even consider it morally wrong.
Alpha Unit: And leftwing people are not delusional for thinking there are rightwing people out there seeking to capitalize on these protests.
Correct, but I am seeing little evidence of this.
Three Bugaloo Boys went to a demonstration and tried to turn it violent, but the crowd did not buy it. Further, the Bugaloos are a mixed bag. Yes most are rightwingers, often racist ones. However, there are other Bugaloos who are on the left and a number of them are antiracists. So the Bugaloos are just a group of “tear it down” folks who are insurrectionists against the government for a variety of reasons – right, left, racist and antiracist. The only thing that unites them is the desire to smash it up and take down the state.
I am watching leftwing subs on Reddit, and all they ever say about these riots is that it’s White Nationalist racists and undercover police instigators who are setting off the riots or even doing most of the damage. I went to the page of one liberal, and he said all the destruction was being done by White nationalists and undercover police instigators. He also said Russia was behind the riots.
Black people don’t want to think it’s their people rioting. That’s a typical human Dindu reaction. They are correct, the Black rioters are having a significant amount of White and Hispanic help. That’s the better response. Pawning it off on cops and rightwing racists ain’t gonna cut it.
Leftwingers and antiracists object to the notion that these are leftwing antiracist riots. Once again this is the typical human Dindu reaction. Dindu reactions tend to be more of a human response than a Black cope. People don’t like to take responsibility when their group does bad things, so they blame it all on outsiders or better yet, their enemies.
Rightwingers are notorious for this but as we can see, leftwingers and antiracists are not immune to it either. The defenses are Denial and Projection. “Blaming other people” isn’t just something pathological people do. Most people go through life blaming other people in some way or other. I don’t object to blaming other people, but I think the less you do it, the better.
But that’s exactly what they are – these are indeed leftwing antiracist riots. And antifa-type and BLM (neither of which are organizations) elements do appear significant. The young Whites may be apolitical, or if they vote at all, they vote Bernie. The Blacks and Hispanics just vote straight Democratic if they even vote at all. I think a lot of these rioters are apolitical in the sense that they are outside of organized politics and might not even vote.
I admit I am a bit of an antisemite. Not too much of one! Nazis are evil! But just a bit. You know those recipes that call for a “pinch” of this or that? I mean not 1/4 or even 1/8 of teaspoon. Less than even that! Well, that’s how antisemitic I am. Just a pinch.
Actually I think all Gentiles should be. Judeophilia is stupid as blind love for any race is stupid. No race should be worshiped blindly. We are all humans, and all human races are a bit evil or have that potential simply on account of being made up of humans, as humans are at least a bit evil, and that’s on a good day!
And as a “pinch antisemite” type, I have chosen to worship Saint Henry Ford as one of my antisemite secular Gods. Feel free to hate on me for that. I’m used to it.
Saint Ford was not perfect. No saint is, not even Saint Jesus. St. Ford’s scriptures, the long-running, Hadith-like commentaries in the great Dearborn Independent, are actually excellent and hardly antisemitic at all. They’re just one endless cynical and exasperated lament at the typically terrible Jewish behavior of the times. Check them out if you can dig them up. Fascinating stuff.
His greatest scriptural document, The International Jew, was excellent and was not even particularly antisemitic at all. In fact as antisemitic documents go, it’s one of the mildest and least offensive ones ever written. Antisemitic speech tends to be nasty as Hell, often murderous and not uncommonly genocidal. TIJ is neither. Further, it was written with a kind heart in the spirit of racial peace. It was actually an early antiracist tract!
He was mostly just exasperated with Jews for being such separatist, selfish, and Other-hating jerks. TIJ was a call for Jews to knock off the Gentile-hatred and especially the Jewish Ethnic Wars against the Gentiles, which were quite hot at that time.
At one point in the book his exasperation is clear. He points out that he never supported one pogrom and thought that pogroms were sickening and horrible. He called for the Jews to stop fighting us and smoke the peace pipe. He said Jews were too busy being Jews to be real Americans, and that was sad and frustrating.
Quit being Jews and start being Americans instead was the message. In other words, TIJ and even The Dearborn Independent are just a couple more works in favor of the assimilation of the Jews, which is generally a good and even progressive thing anyway. Unassimilated Jews don’t act real great. Face it.
Come, Jews! Come join us Gentiles in building a better America!
– Henry Ford, The International Jew
What a beautiful, albeit exasperated, remark! Of course the Jews didn’t listen, and I’m still not sure if they have joined the rest of us here in the US or not. I wish to believe they have, but I do wonder.
But even this scripture, TIJ, is flawed. Ford believed in the Czarist forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hate book that led to the murders of a lot of Jews. That book is just stupid.
And no, Jews don’t “act like that anyway even if it’s a forgery.” Bad argument. It’s just a stupid and wrong bit of hate speech and hate lie that killed a lot of people. Nasty stuff. Well, St. Ford ignorantly believed the Protocols. Dumb, almost criminal stupidity. His later meetings with Hitler were downright stupid too and even ignorantly wicked. He accepted the genocidal maniac Hitler’s praises, and that was more criminal idiocy.
He paid for it when the Jews tried to murder him by running his car off the road in the mid- 1930’s. Most people don’t know this and the Jews will scream, deny it and call you an antisemite for bringing it up, but oh yeah, it definitely happened all right. He almost died. He eased up on the Jews after, which I guess was smart.
My former Jewish girlfriend and I really split on the subject on St. Ford. Usually she agreed with everything I said about Jews and then one-upped me to go beyond that. Jews are profoundly antisemitic themselves as the sin is currently defined.
I defended St. Ford and boy was she mad. She really hated him. She grew up in Detroit and St. Ford was Antisemite Enemy #1 to Detroit Jews.
We had a fun relationship. During the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1996, I openly supported Hezbollah and cheered them on right to her face. She would just laugh, tell me to shut up, and defend Israel. I’d say, “Go Hezbollah go!”, she’d laugh and retort and the match was on. Good times!
Once I asked her why she was defending Israel, and she thought a bit and said, “I ‘m defending my people.” Great answer. Nothing wrong with defending or supporting your people. Racial self-haters are rather disgusting to me. I even with Blacks to take pride in themselves.
Sure, Blacks are fucked up. Duh. But are you, a good Black person, fucked up too? Well, of course not. Then take pride in being a Great Black Man or Woman, whichever it is. Pride is always admirable and groveling is always disgusting, no matter the race or ethnicity.
Assassination of a Computer Programmer Working on Federal Voting Machines in the 2004 Election (2004)
Bush stole both elections that he won, the first by fraud and other shenanigans in Florida in 2000, the second by hacking the voting machines in 2004. John Kerry’s wife, heir to the Heinz fortune, accused the Republicans of stealing the election and causing her husband to lose.
One of the main places they did this was in Ohio where the reactionary Black Secretary of State Ken Blackstone diverted ballots to a basement of a bank in Knoxville, Tennessee, where they are altered and then sent back to Ohio, allowing Bush to win Ohio. So Ken Blackstone stole Ohio that year for Bush by election fraud.
Furthermore, I am convinced that Bush and Karl Rove were in on the hacking and knew about it. Rove was involved in another hacking plot in 2008 where he once again tried to steal Ohio by hacking the voting machines. But the operation was not successful and Obama ended up winning the state.
Anyway, a computer programmer in Florida made allegations that the elections were hacked so Bush could win. Everybody blew him off as a kook, but he was right. I guess he got on Bush’s nerves though because Bush’s thugs murdered him by breaking into his hotel bathroom and killing him in his bathtub. They then made it look like a suicide.
This happens a lot in government sponsored assassinations. The government has someone murdered and then they fake the scene to make it look like he committed suicide. It’s called getting suicided.
To add insult to injury, before he was murdered, Bush’s thugs killed his dog at the motel he was staying at. I guess that was a message to shut up or else, but he kept talking, and they followed through on the obvious threatened murder plot. I can’t recall his name now, but he was fairly famous at the time. If anyone knows his name, please give it to me.
The Assassination of Democratic Congressman Paul Wellstone (2002)
Or you get Wellstoned, the treatment given to progressive Minnesota Congressman Paul Wellstone,who was murdered by during the Bush Administration by Dick Cheney’s Deep State thugs who tampered with his airplane, causing it to crash. Former California senator Barbara Boxer admitted to people privately that she thinks Cheney had Wellstone killed.
This crap goes on more often than you think. We don’t have any kind of democracy here as long as the Deep State and the Oligarchs run things.
Saw this old Alpha post she wrote seven years ago. Seven years! Jesus. We’re practically a married couple by now! No wait! She’s already married and she’s against bigamy. Plus her husband is a big, badass former Marine named “Big Dog,” if you can believe that.
He’s White. A White guy with some sort of Black chick fetish. And Alpha’s got a “White guy her age fetish.” Whoops, don’t say that!
Panmixia baby! I’m sure Jason approves.
If this site is anything, it’s pro-Black-White integration. And it’s run by a White guy and a Black woman, just to show what integrationists we are. Yay! We are hardcore integrationists here and I personally think Blacks should spend more time with Whites and vice versa provided the Black person is not from that half of the Blacks that are those people, you know.
Alpha’s probably one of the most un-ghetto Blacks I’ve ever encountered. She’s the polar opposite of a ghetto Black. She acts Whiter than I do! She called me up once and she sounded like a librarian. If she’s anything, she’s unfailingly, Southern Belle, graciously proper polite. Which I guess makes sense because she grew up in Mississippi! And I just thought of that!
From what Alpha has told me about him, I really like her husband. He’s seriously chill, and he actually understands women. He’s an ultra-laid back, don’t give a damn, reserved (actually just properly chilled I think), brief, pithy words of wisdom type guy from Polar Bear’s state.
And he totally doesn’t give a damn what anyone thinks about his Black wife. I like that. This guy knows how to not be bothered. I like that. I’ve also heard that he knows how to be bothered if it must come to that, and I would not want to tangle with the guy.
Anyway, to show my gratitude for all the free work Alpha does on this site,* I will repost this post from probably way back when when we first met, which is another story altogether!
*She does all the categories!
St. Peter, don’t you call me, ’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store.
Nobody’s sure who wrote “Sixteen Tons.” People usually attribute the song to Merle Travis, who recorded it in 1946. A singer-songwriter named George S. Davis claimed he wrote it during the Depression. I don’t know if there’s any way to settle that question. But the couplet above sums up what it felt like sometimes to be a coal miner in nineteenth-century and early twentieth-century America.
Before labor reforms were enacted and enforced, the life of a coal miner, like that of sharecroppers and other laborers, was often just one step above slavery.
Coal mining was vital for the widespread industrialization that got underway in the nineteenth century. Before then, there were two types of coal mines: drift mines and bell pits. They were small-scale operations that yielded coal for homes and local industry. But the growing demand for coal due to industrialization made coal mines deeper and mining more dangerous. And there was a lot of money in consideration.
Mining operations were in remote, rugged areas, naturally, so mine owners had to provide housing for their workers. In fact they provided just about everything for their workers, typically. This was because paying the miners posed a problem.
You have to remember that this was before there was a national currency in the United States. Neither was there a sufficient supply of coins. Mining operations were far from banks and stores. Mining companies saw great advantage in the closed economy that resulted from creating the company store and paying in scrip.
Whatever a miner needed he could buy – and often had to buy – at the company store. The tools of his trade he bought there, along with whatever other goods he and his family needed. If the company store didn’t have it in stock, he had to do without it. The company store could charge whatever the mine owner wanted. If wages were increased, the company store could increase prices to make up for it.
Some companies paid exclusively in scrip. Others used scrip as a form of credit that miners could use between paydays. In this case, the scrip amount would be charged against the miner’s payroll account and deducted from his next pay. Some companies let their workers trade scrip for cash, but not always at full value. Some paid as little as 50 cents on the dollar; others paid as much as 85 cents per dollar.
Not only were the supplies for the miner and his family deducted from his pay, but so were his rent for company housing, utilities, fuel coal, and doctor’s fees.
Mining companies were creative in withholding as much money as they could from workers. One practice they engaged in was cribbing. A coal miner was paid per ton of coal that he brought up. Each car brought from the mines was supposed to hold a specific amount of coal – 2,000 pounds, for instance.
But companies would alter cars to hold more coal than the specified amount, so a miner could be paid for 2,000 pounds when he might have actually brought up 2,500. Workers were also docked pay for slate and rock mixed in with coal. How much to dock was left at the discretion of the checkweighman – a company man, of course.
On payday, a miner was given a pay envelope with all the check-off deductions listed and any balance due him inside. Often the envelope contained a few pennies, or nothing at all.
The United Mine Workers, a merger of two older labor groups, was founded in 1890.
This organization – whose first convention barred discrimination based on race, religion, or national origin – set about to make mining safer, to gain miners’ independence from the company store, and to secure collective bargaining rights. Among its specific goals:
a salary commensurate with dangerous work conditions
an 8-hour workday
payment in legal tender, not company scrip
properly working scales: improper or outright dishonest weighing was a big concern for miners
enforcement of safety laws and better ventilation and drainage in mines
an end to child labor: “breaker boys” as young as 8 would remove impurities from coal by hand – hazardous work that led to accidental amputations and sometimes death
an unbiased police force: mine operators owned all the houses in a company town and controlled the police force, which would evict miners or arrest them without proper cause
the right to strike
The UMW was able to secure an 8-hour workday for coal miners in 1898. During its first ten years the UMW successfully organized coal miners in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. It finally achieved some recognition in West Virginia in 1902. It spent the next several decades organizing strikes – some of which ended up being deadly – and getting involved, controversially, in politics to further its goals.
Labor contracts and legislation eventually outlawed the use of company scrip. World War II marked a turning point for scrip, and by the end of the 1950’s almost all coal mining operations were paying their workers in legal tender.
What a long haul.
English has had a genocidal affect on the other languages spoken here, but many non-English languages still survive and some are quite thriving.
Pennsylvania Dutch is still quite alive with 300,000 native speakers. I think is is just a dialect of Rhenish German. It’s actually two separate languages and they can’t understand each other.
There are many other languages in the US that have been taken out by English. Most of the Indian languages spoken here have been driven extinct or moribund by English. A few like Cherokee, Sioux, Navajo, Mohawk, Pueblo, some Alaskan languages, a couple of Indian languages of the US South, are still doing well.
Most of the others are in bad to very bad shape, often moribund with only 10 or fewer speakers, often elderly. Many others are extinct. However, quite a few of these languages have had a small number of middle aged to elderly speakers for the last 25 years, so the situation is somewhat stable at least at the moment.
Almost all Indian languages are not being learned by children. But there are still children being raised speaking Cherokee, Navajo, Pueblo, Mohawk, and some Alaskan and Southern US Indian languages. Navajo is so difficult that when Navajo children show up at school, they still have problems with Navajo. They often don’t get the language in full until they are twelve.
However, there are revitalization efforts going on with many to most Indian languages, with varying amounts of success. Some are developing quite competent native speakers, often young people who learn the language starting at 18-20. I know that Wikchamni Yokuts has a new native speaker, a 23 year old man who learned from an old who is a native speaker. In California, there is a master apprentice program going on along these lines.
There are a number of preschool programs where elders try to teach the languages to young children. I am not sure how well they are working. There are problems with funding, orthographies and mostly apathy that are getting in the way of a lot of these programs.
There are many semi-speakers. For instance in the tribe I worked with, many of the Indians knew at least a few words, and some of the leadership knew quite a few words. But they could hardly make a sentence.
Eskimo-Aleut languages are still widely spoken in Alaska. I know that Inuktitut is still spoken, and there are children being raised in the language. Aleut is in poor shape.
Hawaiian was almost driven extinct but it was revived with a revitalization program. I understand that the language still has problems. I believe that there are Hawaiian medium schools that you can send your child to. There may be only ~10,000 fluent speakers but there are many more second language speakers with varying fluency.
There are actually some European based languages and creoles spoken in the US. A noncontroversial one is Gullah, spoken on the islands of South Carolina. There may be less than 5,000 speakers, but the situation has been stable for 30-35 years. Speakers are all Black. It is an English creole and it is not intelligible with English at all.
There is at least one form of French creole spoken in Louisiana. There is also an archaic form of French Proper called Continental French that resembles French from 1800. It has 2,000 speakers. Louisiana French Creole still has ~50,000 speakers. People worry about it but it has been stable for a long time. Many of the speakers are Black.
Texas German is really just a dialect of German spoken in Texas. There are only a few elderly speakers left.
There are a few Croatian languages spoken in the US that have diverged dramatically from the languages back home that they are now different languages. The status of these languages vary. Some are in good shape and others are almost dead. One of these is called Strawberry Hill Gorski Kotar Kaikavian spoken in Missouri. It is absolutely a full separate language and is no longer intelligible with the Gorski Kotar Kaikavian spoken back home.
There are other European languages spoken in the US, but they are not separate from those back home. Most are going out.
There are many Mandarin and especially Cantonese speakers in the US.
There are many Korean speakers in the US, especially in California.
There are a fair number of Japanese speakers in the US, mostly in California.
There are many speakers of Khmer, Lao, Hmong, and Vietnamese in the US. Most are in California but there are Hmong speakers in Minnesota also.
There are quite a few speakers of Arabic languages in the US. Yemeni, Syrian, and Palestinian Arabic are widely spoken. There are many in New York City, Michigan and California.
There are also some Assyrian speakers in the US and there are still children being raised in Assyrian. Most are in California.
There are quite a few Punjabi and Gujarati speakers in the US now. We have many Punjabi speakers in my city.
There are quite a few Urdu speakers here. Most of all of these speakers are in California.
Obviously there are many Spanish speakers in the US. English is definitely not taking out Spanish. They are mostly in the Southwest, Florida, and New York City, but they are spreading out all across the country now.
There are a few Portuguese speakers in the US. All also speak English. They are mostly in California but some are back east around Massachusetts.
The Sicilian Italian spoken in the US by Italian immigrants is still spoken fairly widely to this day. It has diverged so much from the Sicilian back home that when they go back to Sicily, they are not understood. This is mostly spoken in large cities back east.
There are quite a few Armenian speakers in the US and children are still being raised in Armenian. Most are in California.
There are some Persian speakers in the US, but not a lot. Most of these are in California too.
All of these languages are the same languages as spoken back home.
Right. The Dayton mass shooter was not the first “antifa mass shooter,” as the drooling, unhinged nutcase Andy Ngo insists. I don’t think this idiot deserved to get beat up by antifa, but he’s definitely a full-blown nutball.
Yes, Connor Betts was associated with the far left in the US and with the antifa portion of it with all of the behaviors that go along with that. He hated cops and fascists. His random shooting of nine innocent people outside of a bar in Dayton, Ohio had zero political overtones. “Antifa” does not advocate taking guns and killing innocent workers and other citizens. It advocates nothing of the kind.
Obviously mass shooters will often have a political ideology, especially in our ideologically blighted times. After all, they are adult Americans and nowadays most adult Americans have some sort of politics. In a nonpolitical shooting, a shooter may have any politics whatsoever from Far Left to Far Right and everything in between, and none of it matters one whit. That is because the shooting had nothing to do with politics, so the shooter’s politics is absolutely irrelevant.
By the way, the sex life of the shooter is also irrelevant. The Gilroy and El Paso shooters didn’t seem to do well with women, but neither was complaining about it, and there’s no evidence that misogyny or incel ideology had anything to do with the shooting. Believe it or not, any man can go on a mass shooting, from virgin to playboy. As long as the shooting has nothing to do with his sex life, obviously his sex life is utterly irrelevant.
The Dayton shooter did quite well with women, but he also had some serious anger towards them. Yet the shooting, which fired into a mixed crowd and killed more men than women in addition to killing his beloved best sister, was clearly not motivated by misogyny.
Instead, Connor Betts appears to have been suffering from sort of psychotic disorder, possibly Schizoaffective Disorder or Bipolar 1 Disorder. We know that he had been hearing external voices from an early age.
Politics in this country is getting seriously retarded with each passing day, and I blame both the Right and the Left for that because nowadays the Right and Left are equally deranged ideologically.
They don’t have much in common with each other except for a lack of connection with the real world and a tendency to lie, make stuff up, hallucinate, and engage in wild hyperbole and conspiracy mongering. Neither the Right nor the Left is as bad as the demonizers on the other side make them out to be.
Connecticut, West Virginia, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Idaho, Nebraska, and Alaska have at least one thing in common: each has a Panhandle (WV has two). The Nebraska Panhandle is the westernmost part of Nebraska, where the prairie turns into rocky mesas, buttes, and pillars, such as Chimney Rock. It’s where the Midwest becomes the West.
Cattle outnumber people by about three to one in Nebraska. While Eastern Nebraska has excellent cropland for corn, the rest of the state is abundant with grassland for cattle grazing. In the semi-arid Panhandle, cattle ranching dominates. That means Rocky Mountain Oysters are a celebrated delicacy.
This past April the Sidney Shooting Park held its 8th Annual Rocky Mountain Oyster Fry and Fundraiser at the Cheyenne County Fairgrounds west of Sidney, Nebraska. At the Silver Dollar Bar and Grill, also in Sidney, you can stop in for cold beer, onion rings, and Rocky Mountain Oysters – described by one satisfied customer as hot, fresh, and tender.
They might have been hot, fresh, and tender, but you and I know that there aren’t any oyster reefs in Nebraska. These Oysters are bull testicles – or, more accurately, calf testicles. In spring or early summer, ranchers dehorn and castrate bull calves that they won’t be using as breeding stock. They call these non-breeding stock steers. The males that keep their testicles and are later used as breeding stock they call bulls. The main purpose of castration is to calm their tempers, says Dr. Jake Geis, cattle rancher and veterinarian.
Simply put, bulls like to fight. They fight to establish dominance and even after they settle the hierarchy, they fight to re-assert dominance. Dr. Geis says that he’s worked on bulls that have been banged up fighting each other; sometimes the animal is so badly injured that a rancher has no choice but to put it down. Breeding bulls are essential so the problem can’t be entirely avoided, but castrating the non-breeding animals reduces the number of bulls from half the calf crop to three or four.
Also, bulls are more aggressive toward people than steers. Castrating bulls makes them mellower and safer to work with. A herdsman could be seriously injured or killed by a bull while loading or unloading them via trailers.
Another problem, says Dr. Geis, is that when bull calves reach puberty, they want to start breeding. Young females, or heifers, on the other hand, aren’t ready to breed. They can get pregnant but they can’t yet safely deliver and raise a calf. Castration eliminates this problem.
Arguably the most important reason for castrating bull calves is that Americans prefer the taste of steer meat to that of bull meat. The hormone profile of steers with their reduced testosterone changes the flavor of the meat. Dr. Geis says that not all cultures share this preference. He mentions that in Italian culture bull meat is preferred. This means they raise the bulls to harvest weight but have to manage all the problems with aggressiveness and fighting.
With a pair of organs coming off each calf, ranchers could easily end up with scores of them in a day’s work. The dogs get their share before the ranchers, herdsmen, and their families cook the rest just as they would any other part of the animal. The same as cattlemen have done for centuries all over the world.
When they’re not castrating bulls, beef cattle herdsmen are doing various other things with cattle such as feeding, giving vaccinations, tagging or branding, trimming hooves, assisting with births, performing artificial insemination, loading animals onto trailers, driving feed trucks, maintaining pastures, mending fences, and just about anything else that needs to be done on the ranch or feedlot.
Zamfir: You say Trump “stole the election with computers”. Really? What are you talking about here? I’ve looked into these bizarre claims and never found any proper evidence of anything.
They’re not bizarre. Republicans been doing it since 2000 because the public doesn’t really support them anymore, so like all capitalist, ruling class, and oligarchic political parties, they have to lie, cheat, and steal to stay in power. See the Latin American Right for example. The Republicans been stealing them with computers, especially since 2004. Bush out and out stole the 2004 election.
We can tell they were stolen by how the exit polls went radically off compared to the actual vote. Exit polls are the gold standard of politics for over 50 years now. They always reliably track with results. Out of 50 states, polls will be off in maybe two states, no more. They’ve been going off, often by a lot and almost always in a Republican direction, since 2000. This is when the Republicans started stealing them with the computers. That’s why the Republicans put the computers in in the first place – to steal elections.
In Michigan, all polls for weeks before the election – hundreds of them – were all off, including the exit polls. That can’t possibly happen. So Michigan was stolen. They refused to count 70,000 votes in Detroit for no reason except that they are nigger votes I guess. And many fraudulent votes for Republicans were found even before the recount. A recount was never done because all Michigan politicians opposed it. Why did they oppose a recount?
Wisconsin was also stolen. Exit polls were off but always in Republican districts. There was no real recount in Wisconsin. There was only a fake recount, and some precincts were incredibly shady to where it appeared to witnesses that they were seeing actual fraud taking place.
Also 30,000 fraudulent votes for Republicans were found before the recount even started. The vote in Milwaukee was not possible, and I think they never even recounted it. Write-in’s supported Clinton and those lean rightwing. All exit polls showed Clinton winning. Exit polls were perfect in all precincts that had hand counted ballots but went off in all precincts that had computer counted ballots.
50,000 fraudulent votes were found in Pennsylvania before the recount even started. Write in votes supported Clinton and those tend to lean conservative. There was no recount in Pennsylvania because the DNC governor fought it in court! All exit polls showed Clinton winning.
The vote in Florida was not possible. 70% of votes were write-in’s and they supported Clinton by a decent margin. For Trump to win, a huge number of voters on election day would have had to support Trump. That number was so large as to be statistically impossible. Republican turnout was not elevated on election day anyway. As many Democrats came out as Republicans.
Trump started saying the election was going to be stolen because he was going to steal it himself. He always accuses his opponents of doing what he does or is going to do. This is called projection but it is particularly prominent in this man. It is considered to be a primitive and immature defense that kids use a lot. Yes, adults use it a lot, but people who project all the time are notably unhealthy. It is particularly prominent in personality disorders.
Also Trump, Conaway, and Guiliani became unusually calm about Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania a few days before the election. All polls were pro-Clinton. Manafort said he had just talked to the Russians, and they said not to worry about Michigan. I assume the Russians may have been in on the vote-hacking. Vote-hacking in this last election was never investigated by the FBI or by anyone.
I will add that sleazy Democrats do this too. Hillary had to have stolen a number of primaries. There is no way for the exit polls to go off like that, and the DNC laid down the law that Sanders could not win. Democrats don’t seem to want to fix these machines either I guess because they use them to steal elections themselves.
Republicans are fanatically opposed to all recounts of elections and to fixing the damned voting machines. They must know that the way they are set up now, they are hackable.
Really we need to get rid of them altogether and go back to hand counted ballots. States that hand count ballots never see their exit polls go off.
Updated June 15, 2018. Note: I have been accused of “plagiarizing” or “stealing” all of this information by members of the most execrable subreddit on Reddit since r/deadchildren. The absurdity of repeating rumors or speculations of others as “plagiarizing” (!) or “stealing,” is bizarre. Plagiarization is the word for word copying of something from somewhere else. Of course I don’t do that. “Stealing” is laughable. Did these people copyright or patent these speculations? Perhaps they should sue me for violating their copyrights or patents. Authors, especially investigative reporters, receive their information from many places. That said, I have never read or listened to any of the sources I supposedly stole from here. In fact, I had never even heard of them.
freska eksa writes: Uh….. there was a member of this very forum who posted this “conversation with a friend in LE” or something of that nature. That post would have happened well before the Lindsey blog post. He stole that from this subreddit.
Perhaps this is from the same source, but I have not even read that horrible Reddit in three months, and I never read anything like that there. Our source here was a woman, a forum member who reported this to us. I am not sure where they got the information. ProtectiveIonCannon wrote everything below:
ProtectiveIonCannon writes: He absolutely still visits this sub. Funny enough that was also a thread where Anna Williams (or someone claiming to be) commented in
Basically just ripped this post and took some points of what we speculate could be the issue like contaminated DNA, chain of custody, etc.
I never read that post which is from 16 days ago, and I still have not read it. As I said, I quit reading that Reddit three months ago. I have no idea what is in there. Our source was from a private IM conversation with one of our best sources on Facebook, a person who lives in Delphi. How can I have ripped that post if I never read it? Now granted, we may be repeating the same rumors from different sources. My article does not mention contaminated DNA. I have never read anything on their diabolical little Reddit where they speculated about chain of custody. As I said, our source who suggested a chain of custody issue was a man, a forum member who reported this to us in our forum.
ProtectiveIonCannon writes: It’s also pretty funny how GH decided to do a video on a cold case from 2012 and comparing similarities of it to Delphi within a week of this post.
I am very familiar with this case, and I have written about it many times on this site. In fact, I tipped LE about a suspect in this case, and an ISP detective asked me to write up a report for them. I wrote up a 15 page report on my suspect and gave it to Indiana State Police. I have never seen Gray Hughes’ video from a week ago. I had no idea it existed. I mostly refuse to watch to watch his videos because he’s an awful human being like the maggots on that Reddit sub, and I despise him.
ProtectiveIonCannon writes: …if he mentions the super unknown similarities like them being within a few miles of a meat processing plant in his follow up video I’m calling shenanigans.
Thing is, I have already written about the Evansdale case and the Delphi case and the similarities. In fact, that was the subject of the paper I prepared for ISP in Spring 201 7. One of the similarities I wrote about was the closeness of hog plants to each crime. I wrote that piece about a year ago on this site.
ProtectiveIonCannon writes: I think when this is solved we’ll find some rumors to be true. I think Gray Hughes, Greeno & Stroup, and RL all have secret motives for everything they report in this case.
Hilarious. I guess my secret motive must be to ruin my life because that’s all that happened to me since I started writing about this. There is no secret motive. I started writing about the crime early on, got obsessed with it like I do about some things, and soon my articles became the top links on Google search about the case, so I decided to capitalize on that publicity of course. The site is not monetized, so traffic here is irrelevant. Yes, writing about this case brought in money from donations and forum memberships, and that has also been a motive. I don’t write for free. This is how I make part of my income. That said, this case does not bring in much money any more. Last year it brought in a lot more. I had a group IM on Facebook with just me and 10-15 women, set up by a female friend of mine. I got my information from there, particularly from one woman who lives in Delphi and is a superb source. More information came from a private IM on Facebook with another woman who was in that group. It was there that I was told the Delmar Apartments story, and the three person murder team and drug motive theories. This woman also resides in Delphi and has their ear to the ground in a superb way. In addition, two of the rumors below came from members of my forum, one from a woman and another from a man.
First Delphi Murders post in a long time (almost six months), but it’s a good one. I hardly post these anymore because half the world beats the Hell out of me every time I write one of these posts. After a while, you don’t want to write anymore.
Also, our sources are getting better. Now we are getting information from LE, people very close to the families, the friends and associates of a major suspect, in addition to people who have an ear very close to the best rumors floating around the depths of the Delphi Underworld. We are getting a lot better about sorting out the crap rumors from the good rumors. Do you have any idea how many rumors we don’t print? You have no idea. We kill so much stuff because we don’t think it’s high enough quality or sourced well enough. We toss far more material than we run here.
The Latest from Law Enforcement Sources
Although our group does have LE sources from time to time, mostly we don’t get much if any information out of them. We received a number of tips sourced somehow or other from LE early in the investigation, however, I must warn you that even some of those LE-sourced tips went bad on us. I even had one in a screenshot of a man talking to a LE friend of his discussing the crime scene. Sound pretty good, right? Forget it. Bad tip. You really have to take everything at face value in this case. We have had so many rumors go bad on us
If you would like though, here is our latest information from an LE source. We asked him about the case, and he said he had many friends who were working on it but, he couldn’t tell us much obviously. However, he did say a couple of things. Q: Do you think the case will ever be solved? A: They think they already know who killed those girls, but the investigation got screwed up so badly in the early days after the murders that there is a worry that they may never be able to get a conviction in the case.
Ok, so there was some sort of mangling / trashing / mishandling of evidence. I am thinking a chain of custody issue. Q: Can you tell me how the girls were killed? A: You really don’t want to know.
Although I would hate to be vindicated for something like that, I am afraid that some of the more gruesome rumors we repeated on here and were so roundly pummeled over may well be. I shudder to think. Source: A member of our forum.
About My Favorite Suspect
I would like to make one official statement about this man, who I still will not name. I am 100% convinced that this man played some sort of a role in these murders. However, I am not sure if he was at the bridge that day much less if he killed those girls. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t. At one time I definitely thought he was at the bridge that day, but now I am not so sure anymore. And on top of that he may be 100% innocent.
What I mean when I said he played a role in the killings is that he was either one or more of the following:
Present at the bridge that day and killed those girls.
Present at the bridge that day and somehow assisted in the murder of those girls.
Participated in the planning of the crime beforehand.
Had knowledge of the planning and planned execution of the crime beforehand but was not involved himself. However, he did not go to LE with this information. I will point out that this is 100% legal. Even if you hear a crime is about to be committed, you don’t have to contact the police or warn the public.
Completely innocent of involvement in these murders, but heard about them in detail only a few days after the crime. This is also 100% legal. If you hear the details of a crime after it was committed, you are not obligated to contact LE or the public with this information.
The Mystery of the Delmar Apartment Complex
The reason I state 1-5 points above is that we have just received information that my suspect was present in an apartment complex in Delphi called the Delmar Apartments only three days after the crime. He was in an apartment with two other men, both also members of the Delphi Underworld. The phrase Delphi Underworld was used by my source in talking about these men, so I am repeating her use of the phrase. They were drinking and talking loudly about this crime, how it was done, what went wrong, what could have been done differently, etc. They seemed to have intimate details of the crime that had not been released at the time and still have not been released. The only way they could have know this is if they were in on the planning or commission of the murders or if someone told them the details of the crime soon after it was committed.
A woman next door heard them and called the police. Officers came to the complex. We don’t know what happened, but I assume there is a police report on this, and someone might want to go find it. In addition, this woman has some sort of a transcription of what those men were talking about next door to her that night. How she got any sort of transcription of that conversation, I have no idea. However, she’s gone silent, and she won’t give up the transcription either. She’s terrified like everyone else.
These apartments were raided shortly afterwards by LE. A man who was thought to be The Bridge Man himself was seen two times in the laundry room of the complex. Both times residents called police, but by the time they arrived, he was gone.
Look back in the papers to see that LE did indeed raid those apartments around in July, and a number of arrests were made. Little is known about the raid, but at the time people thought it was connected to the murders. The complex was raided again in December 2017 and another several men were taken away. That apartment complex is a known hot spot for the local drug culture and all sorts of misdeeds. Source: A Delphi resident who is closely attuned to local rumors and very knowledgeable about the community, especially its underground element.
The Worst Rumor of Them All, That Not Only Won’t Die But Keeps Getting Stronger, or Does It?
Truthfully, I have always hated that damned rumor about one of the girls, most recently Libby, being pregnant. I really don’t care if one of those girls was pregnant or not. I’m not a Victorian, prude, or Puritan like my critics.
But we got so beaten up over that rumor that I was more than happy to bury it recently based on some evidence we received on the condition of the bodies post-mortem. Yes, we have contacts who saw the bodies post-mortem after they were removed from the scene.
So it is with great despair that I must tell that this horrible rumor is rearing its awful head again. I would love to have not even printed this, but the problem is that the source of this rumor keeps creeping closer and closer to the families. At this point, we are about one ear away from one of the families.
One of the members of these girls’ families, and I will not say who (though you know them well), is apparently stating that Libby German was indeed in the very early phase of pregnancy. What what we have heard is that Anna Williams knew about this because Abby told her. The Germans, in particular Becky German, had no idea of Libby’s condition. However, Becky German discovered that Libby was pregnant in going through her things after her death. People say that Becky is denying Libby’s pregnancy because she is in denial about it.
You might wonder why nothing official has never come out, but these things often do not come out until later, perhaps at trial.
On the other hand, another source, a member of our forum, states that she is closer to the families than one ear away (that is, he is in direct contact with the families, specifically the Germans), and he says he can confirm that neither girl was pregnant.
Another source on our forum said he spoke to Carrie, Libby’s mother. Carrie states that Libby was absolutely not pregnant.
We are hearing three different well-sourced rumors stating the opposite things here. However, two of the negative rumors are sourced directly to family members, and the one positive rumor is still an ear away from a family member. None of this makes much sense, but most things about this case don’t make much sense. The longer you study this case, the less sense things seem to make. I will continue my efforts to clear up this matter further if that is even possible. In the meantime, this rumor will now be downgraded to Unconfirmed, Possibly Untrue status. Whew! I am so happy for that!
More Awful Rumors about the Murders Themselves, Better Sourced Now
Speaking of sensationalism! You want some new dirt? Here goes:
The girls were gagged, apparently with duct tape, at some point. That may be why no one heard them. Source:A relative of a family member.
At least Libby had some sort of solution poured over her body to kill DNA. Bleach? I don’t know what it is. It may have been poured on Abby too. Source:Someone close to a very well known family member.
Some sort of object was jammed into poor Libby’s vagina somehow or other, either before or after death. I don’t know what this is, but this could be bringing us back around to the horrible stakes and sticks in girls’ bodies rumors that I got so pummeled for. I don’t know if it was a stake or a stick. All I know is it was some object. The source referenced the DNA-killing solution and “whatever object that was that he stuck up her.” Source:Someone close to a very well known family member.
A New Theory of the Murders: Three Killers – An Older Man, a Younger Man, and a Young Woman
There is a new theory going around Delphi that says there were three killers who killed the girls:
A man in his 50’s, the Bridge Man. A major local criminal. He controlled meth manufacture at the bridge, and he controlled a lot of the meth being sold around Delphi. At the time of the murders, this man had small children, a niece and nephew, living with him. They were taken away from him at one point and sent to grandparents. This man was the children’s uncle. Both of the children told their grandparents that their uncle killed those girls. When the girl saw the photo of the Bridge Man, she said, “Look! That man is wearing Uncle X’s jacket!” Although this man is a major meth dealer in the area, he never seems to go to jail. He seems to have a cooperative relationship with LE and may well be a confidential informant. He has given up many of his associates to LE, and it is thought that he stays out of jail, and they let him deal as long as he keeps giving people up.
A woman in her 20’s, this man’s daughter. Appears to be heavily into the local drug/meth scene from the looks of her. She has a diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder.
A man in his 30’s, a very well-known local. This man confessed to the murders to a male friend a few days after the crime. He also had a huge scratch across his neck the day after the crime. His confession was reported to LE. Last I heard they wanted his DNA, but he was refusing to give it. This man was the boyfriend of the woman above. This man’s aunt openly states that he killed those girls. I know this man well and I would diagnose him as a psychopath. He also has prominent narcissistic tendencies.
As the story goes, Bridge Man did indeed round up the girls and walk them across the creek. On the other side were the younger couple. The young man killed both of the girls. The young woman then inflicted some gratuitous overkill-type injuries on Libby.
These rumors are coming directly from the Delphi Underground. The sources are friends and associates of the older man above. They openly state that he killed those girls and have provided the story above about how it happened. Now we have had all sorts of rumors floating around about this crime for over a year now, but this is the first time that we have people actually coming forward and openly pointing the finger at people and accusing them of committing this crime. Keep in mind that this man’s very own friends and associates are accusing him of committing this crime! That’s pretty powerful evidence. Source: A Delphi resident who is closely attuned to local rumors and very knowledgeable about the community, especially its underground element.
An Old Motive Rises from the Past: The Drug Motive, Specifically Methamphetamine
Although these rumors are going about town, everyone is absolutely terrified because some of the people involved seem to be underworld types who may be able to have people killed. Also the crime motive seems to be drugs, and a local man was supposedly killed recently for owing money to a meth dealer. The man is named Daniel Lipps. He was found dead in Schafer Lake in Monticello, Indiana a couple of weeks after police appeared at a house he was in due to a report that he and another man had OD’d. He ran away from police at that time, and went missing for two weeks.
His father made a post on social media telling whoever was holding Daniel that he would pay the drug debt if they would give him evidence that Daniel was still alive. However, Daniel’s death was ruled an accidental drowning. I spoke to a sheriff of the county in which Daniel’s body was found, and he stated that the case was still considered an accidental death and was not being reopened as a homicide.
Nevertheless, the locals still think Lipps was killed, and think if they speak up against this group, they will be killed, so no one wants to talk, especially on record. They also do not want to talk to police. The reason given is that many people in Delphi think that the local police are corrupt and there is a fear that the local LE are somehow involved in the local drug trade, possibly by protecting some of the big dealers.
The motive? It’s one of the most hated rumors of all, especially by me. I have been attacking this motive as incorrect forever now. And now here it is, coming back to haunt us again like those other awful rumors. The motive is drugs, specifically methamphetamine. So we are back to the meth rumors again that were so common early on.
Some Very Strange Goings-on in Delphi Just Before the Murders
Shortly before the murders, some strange things happened.
Some tainted meth was being circulated. A number of people had gotten sick or crazed by this bad batch of drugs. Some people are blaming Derrick German, father of Libby, for selling this bad batch. A local man says Derrick’s bad batch caused the man’s girlfriend to miscarry, and he blames Derrick for the death of the baby. This man later falsely confessed to the murders in the midst of a meth psychosis. This false confession was breathlessly covered by Michael Greeno.
Derrick German owed the older man above (possible Bridge Man) a lot of money for meth, and he was unable to pay.
A large amount of drugs, possibly meth, suddenly went missing.
The motivation for the crime then, according to this theory, is retribution or paybacks to Derrick German for any of various things: a bad drug batch harming people who took it, the large amount of drugs gone missing, or owing money for drugs he could not pay back. Source: A Delphi resident who is closely attuned to local rumors and very knowledgeable about the community, especially its underground element.
A Family Member Knows Who the Killer Is?
Oh and one more thing. This just in.
A new rumor that a family member has known who the killer is for about a month now. As far as what they have done with this information, I have no idea. Source: Members of our forum.
However, another source in direct with Becky Patty insists that this rumor is not correct. Source: A friend on Facebook who knows a lot about this crime and is in touch with the families. This rumor will remain Unconfirmed for now.
Until next time!
NOTE TO COMMENTERS 1: I am getting really sick and tired of saying this over and over, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. Furthermore, I am not using rumors as reliable sources as has been alleged. I never said they were reliable sources. How reliable is a rumor? That’s for you to determine, but in general a rumor is not considered to be a reliable source, and they are not treated as such below. The only thing that is represented as fact are statements sourced from LE or the media. If you have issues with rumors, theories, opinions. etc., just quit reading right now and get off my site and don’t come back. You will not be missed!
NOTE TO COMMENTERS 2: I thought I made this one thing perfectly clear as Richard Nixon used to say: I have no sources whatsoever among the families of the girls. I have no sources whatsoever in LE, local or otherwise. There ya go. What I do have is sources close to the families. These people generally live in Delphi and the surrounding region. So that makes my rumors even more hearsay. I’m not even talking to the families. I am talking to people who talk to the families! Of course I have no LE sources. I thought I made that clear. Never have. Yes, I have talked to some of them, but of course they didn’t tell me a thing. A couple of times they told me that a certain person was a POI or that a certain person had been cleared with an airtight alibi. I suppose they don’t mind giving out that information. But other than that, they don’t tell me jack. It’s hard enough to even get them to call you back. I think if I asked them if my name was Robert Lindsay, they would say, “I am sorry, but I cannot comment on matters relating to an ongoing investigation.” That’s how bad it is. So what do I have? Once again, I have sources who are close to LE. They get their information from LE, then they talk to me. So once again this is even more hearsay, as I am not even talking to LE but to the people who are talking to LE. I really wish people would quit claiming I have LE or family sources. I just don’t. If you think I have these sources, just quit reading my stuff right now and go away. You will not be missed! NOTE TO COMMENTERS 3: The lies never end. The latest is “Lindsay takes other people’s theories and claims they are his own.” Of course I don’t. This website is nothing but a compendium of rumors from all over the Net regarding this crime. I go through the rumors and try to rank them on a scale of weak to strong. I compare them against other rumors to see which one is better. All sorts of theories have been flying around since day one. I report those too. The theories are really just more rumors. I’d say the vast majority of the rumor theories reported here were thought up by other people. I find most of my theories on other sites about this crime. That’s how it works, you know. You get theories about the crime from others. Yes, you use your own theories, and you use other people’s theories. I really do not have time to down through the list of theories and say where I got them from. I have come up with a few of my own, but even with those, I guess someone else thought of them first. Also a lot of the theories here are also the result of constant brainstorming I do with my fellow sleuths. Notice: All of the really hot discussion and sleuthing on the site has headed over to the private password-protected forum, where our team of ~200 websleuths has been working on this case and has assembled a huge case against our suspect, including videos and many photographs. Instructions on how to get on the private forum.
This is a profile of a man who we feel is the best suspect in the double murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana on February 13, 2017. In also contains some new evidence on the crime and a new rundown of the crime itself.
But first of all, we have some new important information on a Vehicle of Interest in the crime.
Vehicle of Interest
We believe we have identified a Vehicle of Interest (VOI) in the Delphi Murders case. It is a late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates. This vehicle was spotted by a witness at the north end of the bridge at 3 PM on the day of the murders around the time the girls were killed. To our knowledge this is the only vehicle at the scene that was not cleared, so we believe it may be the Bridge Man’s car. We believe the car was a rental car, and the paper plates were stolen.
This same vehicle was also spotted seven miles south of Delphi in the early AM on the morning of the murders at a woman’s home. We believe that our suspect is in this photograph with the VOI. He was visiting a woman’s son, BH, at the home. The woman thought the suspect looked suspicious, so she photographed him and wrote down his license number. We have that license number, and we have several photographs of this vehicle with the suspect standing next to the trunk.
Later the woman’s son, BH, was swabbed for DNA by LE. Reports indicate that the woman who took the photo, shown photos of our main suspect and the man on the bridge, said our suspect was both the man by the car and the man on the bridge. However, her statements have been very inconsistent, and she is not the best witness out there.
One story is that this man was there to pick people up to go off in the woods near the bridge to make methamphetamine. However, I question that, and it has not been proven that our suspect is involved in manufacture of methamphetamine. Further, we are not even sure if our suspect is meth-involved at all.
However, it does appear that at some time later, the woman’s daughter M, her boyfriend KC and another man named TJF did leave (probably in a separate vehicle) to go make methamphetamine in the woods near the bridge. It does seem that there were two small teams making meth in the woods around the bridge sometime during the day or night of February 13. This is part of the “Meth Theory” according to which some of these people murdered the two girls. I am quite dubious of the Meth Theory of the Delphi Murders.
We believe that the car photographed may have been the same car used in the crime. We investigated the license plate and traced it back to the nearby city of Kokomo. We believe that the license plate was either stolen in Kokomo or provided by someone in that town. The license number is #G908510. At the time of the crime, the license plate was still valid, but it expired in April. We believe these plates have probably been discarded. This information has been shared with LE, but we have no idea if LE agrees with us that this may be the VOI in the crime. This is simply the car that the Beyond Highbrow team of ~200 websleuths believes may be the VOI.
We have reason to believe that LE may be interested in this photograph although they have not made any statements about these photos. Nevertheless, we feel that if you recognize the man in the photo or if you saw this vehicle or license number around the time of the crime, we think you should notify LE. We also would also like to talk to you. Contact information for this site is on the Contact page.
If you are innocent and you are the man in the photo, or if that is your vehicle, or that was your license plate number, we feel you should go to LE and inform them of that so you are no longer under suspicion. Nevertheless, we have serious doubts that an innocent man, vehicle or license # is in this photo.
It is correct that LE has not released any information about this photo, but perhaps they may in the future. Although these photos have been released on some Facebook fora, they have sparked little interest. We have been holding these photos for a long time and were afraid to release them for fear of interfering with the investigation. However, with the release of the composite and after thinking long and hard, we are having a hard time understanding how releasing this information harms the case. Instead, it may well prompt more tips. Also, MSM news sites may pick up on this story, which may prompt even more tips.
At least some of us sleuths here sometimes work with LE on this case. We cooperate fully with LE on all of these posts. After publication, LE was asked if they wanted us to take down any photos or information on this page due to possible harm to the investigation. We were not told to withhold any of the information or photos here, so we are going to continue publishing this material until we are told to stop. These photos were specifically turned over to LE on Friday morning, July 21.
The Actual Murders
Items Owned by the Girls
We doubt if Libby’s phone was recovered by LE. We believe all of the information on the phone was taken from the Cloud before the phone died. We believe her phone was taken by the killer. We continue to believe that he may have disposed of it in a gravel pit lake on the Mears property next door to Ron Logan’s property. We do not believe that LE has yet searched or drained this lake. They would probably need a warrant to do that, and I doubt if the Mears wish to give LE permission to search or drain that lake.
The Audiotape of the Crime
One of the victim’s family was allowed to hear only the first six minutes of the audio. It is from the following listening session that we have learned the following:
Only six minutes of the 40 minute video are known. After the killer say, “Down the hill,” there are only the sounds of people walking through the forest for several minutes. There are muffled voices of more than one person talking at this time, although it is hard to make out what anyone is saying. Towards the end of the six minutes, the Bridge Man and the girls can be heard crossing the creek, which was knee-high where they crossed, albeit icy cold.
At some around this period, you hear both girls screaming on the audio, probably before the attack took place. Why no one heard these screams is not known. We believe the actual attack started after the three had crossed the creek. It is unknown what prompted the attack. We believe that the first attack consisted of a knife attack to the back of the neck of one of the girls, and the victim went right down after this attack. It is not known what is on the rest of the audio, but it appears to consist of the sounds of the two murders taking place. Both murders were apparently caught on audio in full.
The following consists of a number of rumors about how the girls were killed. Most of these rumors have not yet been validated and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. However, the rumors in italics are apparently true to the best of our knowledge:
Probably or Fully True Rumors
Both girls were disrobed either partially or fully. One was naked, but the other had a top on. Both girls were bottomless, and the panties of both girls were found at some distance from the crime scene. Some of the girls’ clothing was found in the creek. One girl was propped up against a tree in a sitting position. One girl had the top half of her body covered with leaves. There was blood and dirt under Liberty’s nails and dirt under Abbie’s nails. Abbie’s nails were badly torn up. One girl had an F carved or burned into her chest. Police believe that Libby had 4-5 chances to escape, but did not flee because she was so dedicated to her friend that she vowed to not leave her friend in this horrible state with this monster. In real life, they were inseparable. One or possibly both girls had their throats slit. One girl’s throat was so badly cut that she was nearly decapitated.
More Uncertain But Plausible Rumors
At some point, at least one of the girls was stricken with the blunt end of a gun.
At least one of the girls had the back of her head badly bashed in with a heavy object, possibly a rock.
A stake was driven vertically into the abdomen of one of the girls by the killer who was standing over her body. This is another persistent rumor that we have made great efforts to refute but still have not been able to.
One girl had a knife wound to the heart and another to the jugular vein in her throat.
Both girls were beaten nearly beyond recognition.
This stake to the stomach is one of the reasons for the consistent rumors that one of the girls was pregnant. It is not known if either girl was in the early stages of pregnancy, however this is a persistent rumor that we have not been able to refute despite our best efforts to do so. The rumor initially stated that one girl was pregnant, but now it says that the other girl was pregnant. Another rumor is that part of the attack was set off by the killer becoming enraged when he found out one girl was pregnant. How he found this out is not known, but perhaps she told him in an effort to spare her life.
The killer used some sort of strong chemical to try to destroy any of his DNA left at the scene.
The girls were “posed” in the crime scene.
There are inconsistent rumors of whether the girls were sexually assaulted. One rumor says they were, and in fact, it goes into some detail about what happened during and after the assault. We will not go into the details of this rumor at the moment for obvious reasons. But the latest rumor, apparently from an excellent source, is that the girls were not sexually assaulted.
The Bridge Man and Our Suspect: Too Many Coincidences
We believe that the Bridge Man is wearing boots from the Indiana Packers plant in town. The suspect formerly worked at Indiana Packers for a significant period of time from the mid-90’s to mid 2000’s and may have retained work boots from that job. We believe that the Bridge Man is a fisherman. The suspect is an avid fisherman almost to the point of obsession and fanaticism. The Bridge Man is definitely left-handed. The suspect is also left-handed. Actually he is ambidextrous, but he prefers his left hand. The Bridge Man is bowlegged. The suspect is also bowlegged, probably from extensive horse riding as a youth. We have a photograph of the suspect next to a horse. The suspect grew up right around the area of the crime in the vicinity of a lot of horses. The Bridge Man is duck-footed; that is, his feet go outward when he walks. The suspect is also duck-footed. The Bridge Man has an injury to his left knee which is obvious in the moving gif’s of him walking on the bridge. The suspect also has a serious injury to his left knee, has several deep stitches on it, and sometimes wears a brace. We have a photograph of the suspect’s scarred left knee and a photograph of the suspect wearing what appears to be a knee brace on his left knee. The Bridge Man is 50-60 years old. The suspect is 52 years old. The Bridge Man is 5’8 – 5’10 and weighs 180-220 pounds. The suspect is 5’8, and when last weighed was 170 pounds, but that was a few years ago, and he seems to have gained weight after his recent release from prison. The Bridge Man appears to be in good shape for his age based on the way he easily navigates the rickety, frightening bridge. Being an avid outdoorsman, the suspect has been in great shape his whole life, but he has developed a paunch as a recent middle-aged development. The Bridge Man smokes and is smoking during the crime. He may also smoke cigarillos, as a cigarillo wrapper was found at the scene. The suspect also smokes, and he does smoke cigarillos. We have a video of the suspect smoking a cigarillo.
We believe that a white compact vehicle may have been used by the Bridge Man to commit this crime. The suspect was photographed the night before the crime in Indianapolis, and the photographs were posted to a social media page the night of the crime. We have two of these photographs. In one of these photographs, the suspect is standing next to a white compact car. We believe that this photograph was used by the suspect to foreshadow the crime he intended to commit the next day by leaving a tantalizing clue, which is something that he loves to do.
In the number and strangeness of the tantalizing clues this suspect leaves about his crimes, the suspect resembles the Zodiac Killer, the BTK Killer and others. The suspect also likes to ridicule and mock LE. If this case ever goes to trial, it may go down in history on the same level as those other crimes where the criminal left clues behind to tease and taunt LE.
We have quite a few more coincidences between the suspect and the Bridge Man, but we do not want to release that material now due to fears of harming the investigation. All of our material was officially turned over to LE on Friday, July 21.
More About the Man on the Bridge
Although the Bridge Man is said to be wearing a fanny pack in the bridge photo, he is actually wearing what is called a deer kit. This typically contains scissors, knives, etc. for cutting up the game that the hunter has killed, and the Bridge Man’s pack may have contained similar items. He may have used some of these items to cut up the girls.
We know the Bridge Man is left-handed because he has a left-handed gun holster strapped to his right side with a semiautomatic pistol in it. We believe we know more about this holster but are not releasing it for now.
We know the Bridge Man has a gun on him as it can clearly be seen in outline under his jacket. We believe we know more about this gun but are not releasing it now.
We believe that the Bridge Man’s gun is either unregistered or stolen. If stolen, we believe he may have stolen it from Ron Logan somehow. If this is true, we do not understand this aspect of the case.
We know much more about the Bridge Man but are not releasing it due to fears of harming the investigation. All of this information was officially turned over to LE on Friday, July 21.
Suspect’s Background and Life Story
The suspect resides within a 20 mile radius of Delphi.
The suspect is a former resident who grew up in Delphi right around the area of the crime and still knows all of the landowners around there, including Ron Logan, Marvin Sandifur, the Mearses, and Ivan Brumbaugh. The suspect is either Amish (shunned), German Baptist or is strongly associated with one of those communities. He knows the area around the crime scene, including Logan’s land, Deer Creek itself, and the bridge like the back of his hand.
The suspect has a low education level but probably graduated from high school.
The suspect had a very messy divorce with his ex-wife, including violent child custody issues. The suspect did a short stint in prison for badly assaulting his ex-wife.
The suspect has a long record of mostly minor crimes with some jail stints and one short prison stint. All crimes were committed in Indiana. Crimes were mostly repeated drunk driving but also assault and harassment charges. All of his ex-wives have no-contact orders against him, which implies domestic violence on his part in each case.
In terms of crimes for which he has not been caught, he has been accused of petty theft. We also have suspicions that he has been involved in arson, perhaps multiple arsons and that one or more of these arsons has resulted in homicide. We believe he may be a serial killer, and we suspect he may have been involved in another at the very least one other multiple murder in the local area. We are currently investigating his background to look for other possible crimes he may be tied to, especially arsons and homicides.
The suspect is no longer employed and is on disability, but in the past he worked at different jobs, including handyman and electrician.
Suspect – Social Aspects
The suspect has strong, warm feelings towards his two grown children and seems to have a great relationship with them.
The suspect has a new girlfriend about his age who may be a native of the region. She is a kind, sweet, gentle lady who absolutely adores the suspect and nearly worships him as a god. They appear to have a stable, warm, loving relationship. She is apparently completely clueless about his dark side.
Relations with the ex-wife are not known, although both the suspect and the ex-wife showed up for his son’s recent high school graduation. Some say that the suspect has strong hatred for his ex-wife, but this is uncertain.
The suspect has a circle of warm friends with whom he has good relations. These are very masculine, tough, hard, outdoorsy men of about the same age who think he is completely on the up and up. He’s fooling them all.
The suspect can seem quite warm and friendly, “like your best friend.” He is easy to befriend, when befriended seems charming and disarming, and seems increasingly harmless the more you get to know him.
Suspect – Psychological Profile
The subject has Axis 2 Cluster B pathology. The suspect is a psychopath and has narcissism/Narcissistic Personality Disorder/Malignant Narcissism. He has no Axis 1 Disorders. He is not psychotic. In fact, he is very sane, almost too sane, and that is part of how he gets away with his crimes. There are no signs of mood disorder. The suspect appears calm with little or no anxiety issues.
The suspect is strongly heterosexual. Although rage and hatred towards females seems apparent with the crime the suspect committed, these feelings are otherwise not obvious in his life. The suspect sometimes displays hostility to women. A lot of men do this when provoked, but he does it with little provocation, and his reactions are quite extreme, often including vague rape and death threats.
The suspect is very masculine in the manner of many middle-aged men in the area. He is a hard, tough man who uses foul language and has a rough and sometimes menacing way of speaking.
The suspect seems normal, but the following concepts also describe him well: sneaky, devious, unreadable, slick, bad boy, naughty, playful, outlaw, gleam in his eye, and rebellious. He appears to be hiding something or keeping a secret. There is a general feeling of what you see is not what you get.
The suspect is the ultimate chameleon. He is an enigma, puzzling and hard to figure out, an actor who sees life as a series of roles. He does not appear suspicious to most observers. Instead he hides in plain sight and blends right in with society. He is very capable of fooling people, an Academy award-winning actor who sees life is an endless series of roles to be played based on whatever the needs of the given situation may be.
The suspect is capable of fooling people so easily because he is a sneaky, devious, underhanded, conspiring and plotting man. Most of his actions are well plotted and planned, even calculated to the point of being choreographed. The suspect displays little spontaneity other than regular rages.
His IQ is surely within the 84-116 normal range (2/3 of the population) and probably within the 90-110 range (half the population), though he may be towards the lower end. However, the suspect is much more intelligent than he appears and possesses a sheer animal, devious, and cunning intelligence. In terms of this sort of intelligence, he has a genius IQ. He is a very hard man to fool, and he is an expert at reading others.
The suspect has a violent hair-trigger temper which can be set off at any time with little provocation. Although he has committed acts of serious violence in the past, this temper nevertheless generally takes a verbal rather than physical form and consists of menace, threats, stalking, harassment, terrorizing and intimidation.
The suspect takes little or no responsibility for his actions and blames others for everything. He attacks others and then claims to be acting in self-defense.
The suspect is a pathological liar. Truth is mixed in with lies and fabrications to the point where he believes his own lies and even gets caught in them. Reactions when caught in his pathological lying are temper tantrums, rage, ranting, and veiled threats via angry and menacing language.
In his court cases, the suspect engaged in shameless, pathological, defensive lying and blaming of others.
The suspect has the following life themes: You can’t win, They’ve got it in for me, Life is a game, I’m fooling them.
Suspect – Verbal Style
The suspect has a versatile verbal style and can seem sentimental, poetic, moving and even philosophical. He is capable of fooling people into thinking he is a person who cares deeply about life’s small and kind wonders.
Verbal defenses are denial, rage, rants, and especially redirection. Other defenses include an excellent ability at distracting people and directing attention away from what is important. For this, he utilizes red herrings, irrelevancies, redirection, minor details, fussing, wrong turns, wrong directions, wrong way streets, and misdirection.
The suspect is also a storyteller and likes to tell long, rambling, colorful, Mark Twain-style stories that tell it like it is about what seem to be ordinary people and communities but in fact are anything but. He can be entertaining in this role. He turns off some who find him a quasi-literate blowhard, but others find him endearing, as his stories could be seen as charming.
The motivation for this crime is hard to figure out, but we suspect it may be similar to many serial killers. Although there is no evidence yet that the Bridge Man has killed other people beyond this crime, he certainly may have. Hence we believe the suspect is a “serial killer type” instead of a serial killer. In that case, the motivation for the crime is that of a sexually sadistic psychopathic serial type killer.
Suspect – Appearance, Lifestyle, Habits, Beliefs and Opinions
The suspect has one large tattoo on his upper right front shoulder. We do not know what this is a tattoo of.
The suspect has some sort of gang ties with the Aryan Brotherhood (AB), possibly as a result of his incarceration. We have photographs of the suspect throwing Aryan Brotherhood gang signs. Nevertheless, we have little evidence that he is a White Supremacist, and on his social mediapages, he comes across as an anti-racist, even a coastal liberal variety. He may have only joined the AB for protection in prison.
The suspect appears to be a carefree practical joker who lives a playful, laid back, easy-going lifestyle where most things are jokes, and little is to be taken seriously. He is the life of the party.
The suspect is a regular drug user. He mostly uses marijuana, which he enjoys a lot.
The suspect was formerly a very heavy drinker, and many problems, especially legal ones, resulted from this. We believe he may now be sober.
Beliefs and Opinions
The suspect’s philosophical outlook can be summed up as a cynical one that humans are lowly animals who are corrupt at their core and are driven by low, base interests. He accuses LE and small town government people in the local area of being incorrigibly corrupt. His reaction to the picture he paints of Tobacco Road sleaze in the underbelly of Mayberry RFD small town White America is offended, cynical, fatalistic and somewhat disgusted – the good citizen outraged by omnipresent sleazy corruption.
The suspect has a very low opinion of LE in Delphi and the surrounding area, as he claims that they ran him out of town as a habitual drunk driving offender. He has a grudge against local LE.
The suspect’s political beliefs are quite liberal. He comes across as an aging hippie type, unusual for Indiana.
Suspect – Role in the Investigation
The suspect has inserted himself deeply in the investigation to an almost unprecedented degree. He is now one of the most well-known people who are “trying to find the killer.” In part this is being done to try to divert attention away from himself, but another factor seems to be narcissism, possibly even Malignant Narcissism, which means he can’t help himself. He loves the limelight and the sound of his own voice, is something of a publicity hound, likes the idea that he is hiding right under the noses of everyone and getting away with it, and thinks this is all some sort of a joke.
The suspect’s attitude towards the investigation is hard to figure. We believe he is nervous and fearful of being caught but also sees the whole thing as a hilarious game of cat and mouse. He’s fooling LE and all of society, getting away with murder, and hiding right under their noses. He also seems to be playing a game of, “Neener neener. I’m the killer, and you’ll never catch me ha ha!” In this sense he resembles the Zodiac Killer and the BTK Killer.
The suspect sought out LE (FBI) early in the investigation in order to leave a tip. We have a video of him calling in this phone tip.
We believe he did this as part of a plan to frame an innocent man. We believe he was originally going to commit this crime and then lay low, but that changed after he was photographed and recorded on audio. Over the next month we believe he then formulated an elaborate case to try to frame an innocent man, a former workmate who he had had a falling out with. This consisted of a very long and elaborate theory which did not make much sense on examination. Further, the man he attempted to frame did not seem like the type to do such a crime. The suspect also included a number of videos as part of this plan. He then went out on the Internet and tried to promulgate this theory on a number of websites and on Facebook and Youtube. He was fairly successful at this until some people started catching on to his scheme.
A commenter on the protected post comments on her view of the state of cultural collapse of the White working class in Northeast Indiana around the area of the Delphi Murders:
Cathie: I am loss for words when I look at the posts of all these young women, babies at a young age, meth, with wannabe “Ganstas.” It truly saddens me. What the heck is going on in the world? Lack of education, opportunities? As I said before, I bet the Midwest was really hard hit by the last recession.
Mer criticizes me every time I bring this up, but I feel the same way you do. It feels like the White working class in these Flyover states is in a state of cultural collapse. Maybe I am showing my age, but it was not like this when we were growing up. Girls didn’t pop out babies right after one another right after high school. I grew up on the beach. Long hair, rock music, surfer chicks, promiscuity, pot, LSD and sadly later cocaine somewhat, but it was all well managed.
Young men and teenage boys are always bad boys, but I look back and I think the bad boys nowadays have gotten so much worse. Most of us stayed out of jail. Our heroes were hippies like Tim Leary. Surfers had sort of gangs to some extent, but not really. More like “my beach, my waves” stuff. We did not imitate ghetto Blacks. Joining a white supremacist prison gang was not cool. It was very not cool to go to prison, much less jail, but if anyone did, it was for selling acid or coke, and they came out OK, still peaceful hippies.
Dope/booze, promiscuity, bad boys, bad girls: all of these things are timeless elements of teenage and young adulthood, but there is a difference of degrees. And White people have gone seriously downhill on all this stuff. The sex is worse, the STD’s are worse, the dope is worse, the music is worse, the role models are worse, the male and female behavior is worse, the irresponsibility is worse, the imprisonment rate is much worse, and the gangsterism is horrifically worse.
Sorry, but all this stuff is a matter of degree, and these new young people have really gone off the cliff.