NAZISM IN UKRAINE – AN OVERVIEW Part 3 of a Four Part Series
This war in the 1930’s was a class war more than anything. As I said, 7
The Ukrainian Jews which had swarmed to the Reds in the Civil War, also remained serious supporters of the USSR during the Holodomor period. The ONU Ukrainian ultranationalist fascist group was founded in the late 20’s and started waging attacks at that time. All through the 30’s, the NKVD was killing a lot of them.
Even before the Nazis even invaded Ukraine in1941, the ONU under the hero of the Ukrainian nationalists Stepan Bandera started killing Jews in Lviv already in 1940. The Lviv pogrom was horrible. There is footage of it on Youtube. Bandera’s ONU pursued the Nazi “Jewish Bolshevism” theory that “Communism was Jewish.” Judeo-Bolshevism continues to animate Ukrainian ultranationalist Nazi theory to this day, a movement supported by 20-3
Bandera’s group also killed Poles, Gypsies, and Russians. In the end, they killed 200,000 Jews and 90,000 Poles. The SS turned over to the ONU tasks that even the SS shied away from, like killing children. The ONU relished in such tasks. The ONU was so bad that many Ukrainian Jews sought refuge from the Wehrmacht to save them from the ONU! The Wehrmacht was not the SS, and although it committed many crimes, in other times, they saved and protected Jews as it was not a force that was ideological at its core. It was mostly the SS and Einsatzgruppen who were the Jew-killers.
The ONU had massive support in Western Ukraine, and Bandera and all of his associates are the heroes of Ukrainian nationalism. All of the heroes of Ukrainian nationalism were Nazi collaborators. The Ukrainian nationalists from 1917-1923 are best seen as proto-Nazis or pre-Nazis. As the USSR reconquered Ukraine, the US and UK hustled the Ukrainian nationalists out of the country to the US, Canada, and Australia.
Go talk to them. They talk crap about Jews and most of them are Holocaust Deniers. And all of their heroes, 10
Yes, recently the leader of the Azov Battalion said they’re not antisemitic. In fact, he said Israel is the model for the fascist ethnic state they wish to create. Not exactly a compliment for Jews, is it!
“Hey Jews, you guys are great! This Nazi guy said your shitty little hate state is a model for the Nazi country he wants!”
Keep in mind that Azov and the rest don’t just hate Russians and Jews. They hate Poles about as much as they hate Russians. And since 2014, Ukrainian nationalist battalions have been tormenting Hungarians in the Carpathians and Greeks in Mariupol. They hate all non-Ukrainians. They hate the Greeks and Hungarians because they won’t give up their languages and cultures and turn into Ukrainians. Ukrainian ultranationalism isn’t really about biological race. Ukrainian Jews speak Ukrainian and have adopted Ukrainian culture. Perhaps that’s why the nationalists don’t talk about them much.
Except it turns out that this leader of the Azov Battalion recently ordered all Ukrainian Jews to leave Ukraine except the Karaites. Wait. I thought he wasn’t antisemitic. I thought Israel was a model for the Nazi country they want to make. Turns out we have to take all that back.
You need to understand. These are more “kill the Russians” Nazis as opposed to “kill the Jews” Nazis. The kill the Jews part is on the backburner for now that they have these Jewish presidents. By the way, Zelensky has to do what those Nazis say, and if he doesn’t, they say they’re going to kill him!
In the US, “Nazi” means genocidal antisemites, Holocaust, Shoah, 6 million dead Jews. Only 6 million people died in World War 2. Wait. It was 50 million. Nope. Those 44 million non-Jews don’t count! All that counts is that special, precious 6 million!
In Russia, when you say Nazis, they don’t think genocidal antisemites, Holocaust, 6 million dead Jews, etc. The Russians are antisemites themselves, albeit not homicidal or genocidal ones anymore. They think “27 million dead Soviets” and Hitler’s plan to more or less exterminate the Slavs, in particular the Russian people. I think half were to be killed outright, 1/4 of the most Germanic ones turned into Germans, and the other quarter slowly worked and starved to death. So the Germans had an agenda to kill 120 million Soviets, mostly Russians. This was called Generalplan Ost.
Ukraine has always been the flat plain that every invasion of Russia has ever used from Napoleon to the Nazis. It’s the Invader Highway to Russia. So Russia cannot possibly let Ukraine fall into the hands of its enemies, especially Nazis.
To the extent that Azov and the rest are “kill the Russians” Nazis as opposed to “kill the Jews” Nazis, I do feel that they are absolutely Nazis.
Communism appeals to all sorts of people on a basic level. Look at what Communism promises. It’s pretty clear that that’s something that a lot of humans would want, not any particular ethnicity or culture.
Polar Bear: NS Germany surely had a German spirit. Was Communism based on Russian farm culture or anything native? I often think it contrasts with warring Celtic tribes on the British Isles and Ireland. Maybe some of it is Slavic in nature.
I’m not sure. You know it took off in Mozambique, Grenada, Angola, Cuba, Afghanistan, China, Vietnam, Laos, Chile, Congo, Cambodia, Mongolia, and Yemen too, right?
And they almost won in Peru, El Salvador, Indonesia, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Greece, Turkey, and Colombia.
The CP was huge in Iraq – the base of Moqtada Sadr’s movement is actually the old Iraqi CP! Most of Sadr’s followers and soldiers were former members of the Iraqi CP. It had huge memberships in Sadr City. Eurocoms were huge in France and Italy. The CP is in the ANC government in South Africa.
In addition, Communism was very popular in Kazakhstan (Turkics), Tajikistan (Iranics), Uzbekistan (Turkics), Turkmenistan (Turkics), Kyrgyzstan (Turkics), Karelia, Mari-El and Udmurtia (Finno-Urigics), the Caucasus, Azerbaijan (Turkics), Armenia, among Siberian Turkics, Buryats (Mongolics), Tungusics, the Nivkhi (Japanese types), and the Chukchi (Inuit types).
I’m afraid there’s a little more to it than Slavicism. I do not believe it was ever very popular in Poland, the Baltics, Finland or Georgia though. Stalin once said that forcing Communism on the Poles was like putting a saddle on a cow.
Anyway, Marx was German and Engels was British. Rosa Luxembourg was German. Antonio Gramschi was Italian. Carlos Luis Mariategui and Edith Lagos were Peruvian. Manuel Marulanda Gabriel Garcia Marquez were Colombians. Gabriel Mistral was Chilean. Farbundo Marti and Roque Dalton were Salvadorans.
Augustino Sandino was Nicaraguan. Pablo Picasso was a Spaniard. Ho Chi Minh was Vietnamese. Mao Zedong was Chinese. Patrice Lumumba was Congolese. Samora Machel was Mozambican. Those are all very famous Communists who were non-Slavic.
We and our pals overthrew non-Commie Leftist nationalists in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama, Mexico, Colombia, Paraguay, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Guyana, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Portugal, Iraq, Iran, and Libya. We and our pals tried unsuccessfully to overthrow them in a number of other places.
Communism has universal appeal. It is nothing less than the dream of a better world. That is why in a way I was sad when the Eastern bloc collapsed because what collapsed with it was that most beautiful dream.
The Latin American Left believed in the dream of a better world. And in Latin America, that is a dangerous thing.
SHI: I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. So the Poles took care of the Jews for more than four centuries? Then one fine day they decide to hand them all over to the Nazis: no questions asked. No refunds. “Go fuck yourselves, Kikes.”
The Poles were not nice to Jews over the centuries. There were definitely pogroms in Poland during that period. I will discuss one rebellion below, and it definitely wasn’t the only one. When the Holocaust came around, Jews had already been dealing with very long-term antisemitism among Poles dating back sometime, possibly at least 300 years.
In the Chmielnicki Rebellion of the 1600’s, the Jews continue to fulminate because half the Jews (100,000 out of 200,000) got killed. That 1/3 of the total population got killed in the rebellion and especially in the subsequent Swedish invasion and conquest is left out.
Furthermore, the leader of this rebellion, a classic peasant rebellion against feudal lords, exhorted the Jews at the beginning of the revolt to come join them. “Oh Jews, come join us in our war against the lords!” They were actually willing to let the Jews fight on their side. Of course the Jews told them to piss off and sided with the lords like they always did. So of course in the anti-feudal rebellion, the allies of the lords, the Jews, indeed got targeted, and rightly so.
Look how shitty the Jews are about this though. “Evil Polish antisemite Nazis murdered one half of our people for no reason!”
Yeah, not really Jews. More like Jews sided with the evil feudalists in an anti-feudal peasant revolt during which, as typical in these revolts, the feudalists tended to get massacred. And what do you know, not only feudalists got massacred in this revolt but so did the sleazeball Jews who lined up with them. And anyway, in the same period. 1/3 of all Poles got massacred anyway! So Poles got slaughtered about as much as Jews did, and for much less of a good reason.
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Totally self-centered, non-empathetic pricks. Gee, I wonder why people don’t like ’em. That said, I do not regard recent pogroms and massacres in Europe to be a deserved punishment for whatever Jews did.
The Jewish POV is here. It does look like they hit the Jews pretty hard during this rebellion, though. Brutal stuff and hard to read.
N. B. I may not have portrayed the history and nature of this rebellion properly. Nevertheless, I know it is true that he called on Jews to join him, they refused and went over to the other side, and then they got killed. Sounds like they joined the wrong side in a war and paid for it as typically happens in such cases. Why would an evil antisemite Nazi even want Jews on his side on the first place?
White IP parallels the fall of angels, th 1/3 that fell from heaven felt superior to humans and were in a lot of ways. With their advanced technology, precision, etc. some Whites develop a sort of elven elitism. Elves, angels, and Whites can be more ruthless than orcs. Perhaps they are more capable..
Face facts, some races and ethnic groups are superior on at least certain metrics. That’s not even controversial science, yet anyone who states this fact may well have their life and career ruined by SJW psychos.
But look:
Germans and Japanese both score very high on IQ tests – superior to many other groups, and objectively speaking, both developed advanced societies in a variety of ways. Their societies were also superior to many others 70 years ago. The Germans were considered to be one of the more attractive White groups, albeit a subjective notion.
In short these two groups could be seen as superior on a number of metrics. So logically, it was easy for them to feel superior. Those who achieve superior results in society tend to feel superior to others.
The odd part was that Jews were superior on a number of metrics to Germans (let’s face it) and there’s no good evidence that many Slavs, such as Poles, are inferior to Germans (Poles score higher in IQ tests than Germans).
However the superiority of the Germans caused them to see other groups, even other groups that were on the same level or even higher than they were, as inferior. A sense of superiority isn’t necessarily logical. The problem is that that sentiment exists at all.
In Central Africa, the Tutsis were taller, lighter skinned, had fairer features, and were perhaps more intelligent than the Hutus, who looked more like typical Africans. So the Tutsis were superior in a number of ways. Look what happened. 1 million Hutus murdered in only three weeks.
Problem is that when hugely superior groups develop an IP, the results can be out and out genocidal. Their sense of superiority allows them to regard many of the groups around them as inferior, and mass murder can flow from that.
Whites do score superior to many other races on objective testing, particularly intelligence testing. One could argue that they have achieved superior results in technology, science, the arts, innovation, and civilization in general. So when objectively superior Whites develop an IP, it’s typically pretty ugly stuff.
Take-home point: Objectively superior groups developing IP is very dangerous. Their sense of superiority, already validated by facts, gets blown out of proportion. There’s a tendency to regard many other groups as inferior – and face it, on a lot of metrics, they are.
These validated senses of superiority of themselves and inferiority of others leads to disdain and contempt for those below them and to savage IP in which they can be quite cruel, vicious, murderous, and even genocidal.
The more objectively superior the group, the more brutal the IP. Not true all the time, but definitely true a lot of the time. Superior group’s IP is a dangerous thing. It’s no wonder that people get alarmed when certain groups develop IP.
First off: according to whom? Well, according to my wife’s grandfather who lived through it. When he was a kid he watched Russian troops massacre people out in the woods for days on end. He hid in the trees until it was over. He grew up in Poland, and was a staunch anti-communist because of what he saw them do to the Polish people. He spent three years in a communist prison because he refused to join the Communist Party. The reason I bring up Stalin is because he’s the one who populated Ukraine in the East with Russians. Ukraine is not Russia, that’s just another fairytale that Russophiles promote. Russian has been terrorizing Ukraine into submission for quite a long time. I bring up Stalin because he literally reshaped the nation of Ukraine through his policies of ethnic cleansing and the execution of the native intelligentsia, just like the soviets did in Poland. Oh, that and systematic rape and murder. Putin longs for that empire to be restored. You romanticize it because you think that the US is corrupt. It may well be, but I’ll take it any day compared to living under a despot like Putin. And if you actually paid any attention, the vast majority of Ukrainians want an independent country, not a Russian satellite state.
These could be considered Cold War lies of US imperialism, but more properly these are the Cold War lies of those in Eastern Europe and parts of the USSR who hated the USSR. So it is East European anti-Soviet propaganda. Now I see! Rantus is a Polish Russophobe by proxy! I get it now. Never listen to a Polish Russophobe. Or a Baltic, Finnish, Ukrainian, Czech, Romanian or Bulgarian one. They hated Communism, and to them, Russia = Communism. They are not rational, will never be rational, and many of them are fascists, especially the Nazi type of fascists. This is especially true of Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian and Ukrainian nationalists, most of whom are fascists and in particular, Nazi-type fascists. In East Europe, many to most Russia-haters are fascists, often Nazi-type fascists. However Polish nationalists are not Nazis. They had a very bad experience with Nazism, worse than with the Communists. But Polish nationalists definitely hate Jews. Many Hungarian and Romanian nationalists are fascists, typically Nazi-type fascists. With Czech, Slovak and Bulgarian nationalists, I do not think they are so fascist and Nazi-like. Czech nationalists in particular are quite progressive. Check out Milan Kundera. Of course, Russia abandoned Communism long ago and is now just another capitalist country. The Poles have always hated Russia and have long harbored an official policy to destroy Russia by breaking it into small pieces. This policy was officially dreamed up around 1920, and many documents were written in support of this policy. You can still read them to this day. At the moment, Georgia, Poland, the Baltics and Ukraine still support this “Destroy Russia” plan as official government policy. The Poles have been attacking Russia forever. This goes all the way back to the 1600’s and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The Poles have conquered parts of Russia, mostly the Western Ukraine, many times. The conflict goes back to West versus East, Catholicism versus Orthodoxy, Rome versus Antioch. There is more to it than that, but you get the picture. Bottom line is that Poland is a long-term deadly enemy of the Russian people and the Russians have a right to be wary of them. The Poles have never dropped their “Destroy Russia” plan, so I do not see why Russia should be nice to them. In 1920, the Russia-Polish War was fought. Although the West has been lying about this war forever, the truth is that Polish attacked Russia out of the blue for no good reason during this war. There really is no such thing as the Ukraine. It has never really existed as an independent state, except for two years from 1919-1921 and a few years during World War 2 when a Nazi puppet state, similar to the French Vichy, the Croatian Ustasha and the Romanian Iron Cross regimes, ruled for a few years. Western Ukraine was only connected to the Eastern Ukraine by Stalin’s annexation of part of Poland in 1939. Before that, this fake Ukraine country was always part of Poland. Everything from Kiev east was always part of Russia, known as Malorussia and Novorussia. There was a Ukrainian SSR that was part of a the USSR, but it was just a state in the USSR, not a nation-state. It was put together by gluing all sorts of strange regions together for no particular reason. The present borders of Ukraine have no legitimacy whatsoever. However, I will grant that in terms of a real Ukrainian nation exists in the sense that nations exist independent of nation-states. Therefore, everything from Kiev west I would call the true, pure Ukrainian nation, now the Ukrainian nation-state. The rest is just Russia. Crimea was always a part of Russia. So was Novorussia. However, I am willing to grant the Ukrainian nation any territories to the east of Kiev that want to join it since rejoining Malorussia to Russia does not make sense logically. However, central and east Ukraine may not want to be part of this Nazi regime. Already Transcarpathia is in open rebellion. They have declared independence and there are armed roadblocks all over the land. They only let authorized people through. The Transcarpathians want nothing to do with this Nazi regime. There are strong signs that Kharkiv does not want to be part of this Nazi country either, but they decided not to have an independence referendum. It is true that the USSR committed many crimes against Poland under Stalin. I do not condone that. And forcing Communism on the Poles never worked. Stalin said it was like trying to put a saddle on a cow. This very Catholic country never liked Communism, however most Polish nationalists are socialist-type people. I also agree that the USSR committed many crimes against the Ukrainian people, including a genocide of 390,000 people during the anti-kulak campaign. The leading figures and intellectuals of most nations of the USSR were decimated by Stalin in 1938 during his purges. The Ukies were not singled out. There was no Holodomor. It never even happened. There was a famine, but it was not a deliberate or terror famine. Anyway the Western Ukrainian Ukies were not part of the Holodomor as they were living in Poland at the time. After Stalin died, Khrushchev came in. He was a Ukrainian and he did many good things for the Ukrainian people. He annexed Crimea to the Ukraine, riding roughshod over history in doing so. It is time to let bygones be bygones. The USSR is over and done with. The West Ukies were Nazi sympathizers who worked closely with the Nazis, set up a Nazi government, and participated gleefully in the Jew roundups and Jew-killing. And the commenter’s relative may be interested to know that his cherished Ukie nationalists (the direct ancestors of the present Nazi regime) slaughtered 100,000 Poles in West Ukraine while their Nazi state was in power. The man who did this was their national hero, a man named Stephan Bandera. Bandera is the finest hero of Ukrainian nationalism, and there are statues of him all over the new Ukraine. The Ukies have never apologized or renounced Banderist doctrine. In fact, a good name for the new Ukraine would be “Banderistan.” It is beyond me why Russia should tolerate a psychotic, murderously hostile Ukie Nazi government on their border. In fact, they should not and cannot tolerate it at all. They really need to overthrow that Nazi government in Kiev. Let the Nazis go back west of Kiev to Banderastan where they can seig-Heil until they get tired of it and return to their senses. The commenter makes a typical patriotard comment when he asks, “Where would you rather live, the US or Russia?” If you say the US, then you must support the US and hate Russia. If you say Russia, then they will tell you to leave the US and go live in Russia. This is the way the patriotard thinks. Nations fighting for good against evil should be supported whether you want to go live there or not. Your own nation should be opposed when it fights for evil against good (as the US usually does) even if it is a pretty nice place to live. To the patriotard, “nice place to live” means “the foreign policy is perfect” and “my country right or wrong.” Similarly, “lousy place to live” means “evil country with evil intentions that is an enemy of America.” It’s insane, but US patriotardism never makes sense anyway.
See here. I have known this for quite some time now. Many of the Maidan terrorists, particularly the Right Sector Nazis, were trained at a special institute in Poland months before the Maidan riots and the subsequent coup. NATO and the US knew about this and may have been involved in it. This is more evidence that the Maidan riots and the subsequent Nazi coup have been planned for some time. Poland is a logical source for cooperation with the Ukrainians. Poles hate Russians as much as Ukrainians or Georgians do. This goes back to ancient feuds in this part of the world. There have been Catholic-Orthodox wars on the western border of Russia since the early 1600’s. The Russians see the Western border as the place where the Catholic West keeps trying to attack Russia. The West sees the Catholic nations on Russia’s Western flank as jeopardized by an expansive Russian imperialism. There were more wars later on. Much of this region then came under the influence of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Germany. Before and during World War 1, there was great deal of fighting between the West and Russia, particularly in the region of Ukraine and Ruthenia. These regions have been home to “anti-Russians” (Catholics who look to the West) and pro-Russians for a long time now. The pro-Russians often call themselves Russians (see the names “Rusyn” and “Ruthenia” – the name “Rusyn” was adopted by a Russianizing group of these people who speak a language closely related to Ukrainian but who hate Ukrainians. Ukrainians say that Ruthenians do not exist and Rusyn is a Ukrainian dialect, not a language. They say that Ruthenia is a part of the Ukraine. During World War 1, Ukrainians and Ruthenians working with the Austro-Hungarian Empire arrested many “Russianizers” and put them in a camp in Southeastern Europe. This was for all intents and purposes a concentration camp, and conditions were so poor that many of the men sent there died. Western Ukraine, particularly Galicia and Lvov, have traditionally been part of Poland, Lithuania, Poland-Lithuania, or Austria-Hungary. All of these are Western and Westernizing Catholic entities who look to Rome. Russian Orthodox call these people Papists and hate them. The Catholics in this region tend to hate and fear the Russians whom they regard as the 800 pound gorilla in the room. This hatred has been going on forever and shows no signs of abating anytime soon. It is from this rancid soil that Zbigniew Brezhinski, who, as a man, an influence and a theory, is really the brains behind the current “Destroy Russia Now” project in the Ukraine. Brezhinski is the hardest of the hardcore Russian-haters. As you might expect, he is a Pole. He is also one of the highest ranking agents of US imperialism and an important theorist of US imperial policy (read his books). Brezhinski’s father was an official in the fascist government that held power in the interwar period in Poland. In 1918, a virulently anti-Russian ideology was hatched in Poland. This hate and fear driven ideology saw Russia as the main threat to the existence of Poland. The project, a true conspiracy, involved working with minorities in Russia to chop Russia up into as many pieces as possible, thereby delivering the death by a thousand cuts and rendering Russia harmless and impotent. This same ideology has since been taken up by various Georgian regimes and is the main ideology behind the Ukrainian Nazi government. As you can see at the link, the former security adviser to the government of Poland was photographed outside of Slaviansk talking to the current Nazi President of the Ukraine. This man, a virulent Russia-hater, has been trained as an anti-Russia agent by the US government State Department in Israel, Germany, France and the US.
Repost from the old site. First off, let me start out by saying that I am a Leftist. In fact, I am a Communist. However, unlike 9
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What’s completely insane about is that in their ethnocentrism, Hispanics are really hurting themselves. You never see a Help Wanted sign in this town. Why would you, when the unemployment rate is 1
My White friend has roofing skills. He goes down to the local hiring hall and tries to get hired, but he does demand $9/hr. That’s $1 over minimum wage. Yet every time, the employers say that some illegal over there will do it for $4-5/hr (that’s far below minimum wage). Also, my friend says that every job he applies for demands bilingual skills in Spanish. As he is not bilingual, he is SOL. I find this ridiculous. It might be slightly sensible if these Spanish speakers were natives who had lived here since 1850 and hence had some right to their native tongue. Instead, almost all of the ones you will need to use Spanish with are illegal aliens who hopped the border in the past 20 years. The notion that one cannot get a job in the US unless one speaks a foreign language is preposterous. I think it ought to be illegal. Bottom line is I know all sorts of young Americans around here who are out of work. Now, they aren’t always the most wonderful citizens, but if there were Help Wanted signs all over town, I think they could work somewhere. Instead, they are unemployed and spend their days involved with gangs, crime, tagging, rolling drunks, fighting with gang rivals, leeching off their stupid girlfriends, engaging in petty thievery, and especially smoking dope. They just in general act highly uncivilized. I would like to point out here that in a manner that is little discussed, illegal immigration has been partly responsible for gangsta culture, drug abuse, laziness, and just general cultural degeneration among young Americans of all races. Studies have shown that as illegal immigration has increased over the past 20 years or so, the number of young Americans who count themselves as “discouraged workers” who have dropped out of the labor force has grown significantly. The two things must be related. Illegals are taking all the low-skilled labor and these were the sort of jobs young Americans cut their working teeth on in their youth. With no work to do, young Americans become discouraged, drop out and culturally degenerate in various ways. In the comments section, commenter Lafayette brings up a highly pro-immigrant Weltanshauung in the UK involving Polish workers. The content is familiar. Britons are told endlessly the society will collapse if not for the immigrants. There are so many jobs that young Britons just will not do. If the immigrants go, the economy will tank. On and on. I don’t know the dynamic of Polish immigrants in the UK, but I assume that they are working for lower wages than Britons work for. Otherwise the entire UK media would not be cheering them on. I also noticed an article recently that said that Polish workers were better workers than British workers. This is part of the pro-immigrant culture that we went through in the West under Reagan. Starting under Reagan, a new culture developed in America whereby rightwingers repeatedly endlessly what crappy workers Americans were, especially blue collar workers. There was no evidence for this whatsoever, but the talk went on. Americans, mostly young Whites, were also told that blue collar jobs were for losers. The only way to be a winner in America was to run a business or work in an office. Good, honest, US working class culture was degraded with an incessant drumbeat. At the same time, the illegals started to pour in. I think that these two things were connected. There was a concerted rightwing project to tell young Americans that working class jobs were for losers and that US working class workers were crappy workers, combined with the beginnings of a total flood of unskilled labor from south of the border. The unstated assumption: the US working class all needed to be replaced by immigrants, especially illegals from Mesoamerica. At the same time, an all-out war was waged on unions, the organizations of the US working class. The notion was also promoted that Americans are some kind of sissy fussbudgets who will not do any kind low-status labor. Therefore, we needed to import millions of illegals to do this work or else the economy would collapse. We were also regularly harangued with stories about phantom labor shortages. After about 15 years or so of mass unskilled illegal immigration, the US Left did an about-face and decided to represent the interests of immigrant scabs over native workers. The nasty and wicked notion that normal, sane and reasonable opposition to illegal immigration was racism (!) was promoted, and soon wormed its way through the whole culture to where it is now widely accepted. After that, the labor unions themselves, the last holdout of the workers, went over to the immigrant scabs, and US workers were finally left completely high and dry. I would like to point out that the entire MSM was complicit in this, and they are to this day. Realize that if the MSM is consistent about any one thing, it is their sheer and utter contempt for labor. There is not one single major US newsmagazine, TV news station or large daily newspaper that is the slightest bit friendly to labor, much less organized labor. As the UK’s lunatic pro-immigrant culture continued, these same nasty memes wormed their way into the culture. One is the notion that there are certain jobs that Britons simply will not do. It’s not stated, but what’s implied is that Britons will not do this work for any amount of money. I don’t know about Britons, but here in the US, that’s manifestly untrue for anything other than field work. A much more pernicious line soon followed, and this is that the foreigners are actually better workers than the natives. The Right will start this line, but soon the ultra-traitors of the Idiot Left will pick up on it. I had an anarchist say straight to my face that US workers are lazy and incompetent, and that’s why we need illegals to replace them (!). Lafayette also points out that in the UK, the entire Left has given up on the working class. Instead, it is supporting immigrant scabs who are being brought in for the sole purpose of driving down the cost of labor for UK native workers. What followed after that is that the labor unions themselves got on board and supported the immigrant scabs over the interests of native workers. Since government and media never support native workers, and as Lafayette notes, the Left completely gave up on them, what this means is that native workers lost their last friend – their very own unions . The Left here in the US and UK will respond with the pleasant-sounding nostrum that what is needed is to organize all of the immigrants, especially the illegals. The problem is that this feel-good fall-back position is utterly doomed to failure. The notion that organizing these illegals is going to help anything is even more idiotic here in the US than it is in the UK. Unionization in the US has been plummeting since the 1950’s and in particular since 1973. Unions are now so weak that it’s ridiculous. That they are suddenly going to organize all of these immigrant scabs and regain all their power and glory is comical. Even if they did organize the immigrants, as Lafayette notes, what good is it with ten or more workers lining up for every unskilled job? All the unions in the world are pretty useless in the face of a tidal wave and resulting massive glut in unskilled labor. Under capitalism, labor is like pricing – it is based on supply and demand. Massive oversupply of low-skilled labor will result in the bottoming out of the price of labor just as massive oversupply in a type of goods will result in the collapse in the price of that particular widget. So with fields like construction totally glutted with low to unskilled workers, the high-paying construction jobs of yesterday are never coming back, whether you organize the immigrant scabs or not. US unions can’t even organize US workers and get them to join unions. How will they organize a bunch of illegals who can’t even speak English? P.S. I am not a xenophobe. I do support limited (200,000 a year?), tightly controlled legal immigration. The immigrants should be rigorously analyzed, and the vast majority of potential immigrants should be rejected. Immigrants should be required to jump through many hoops in order to prove to us exactly how they will be an asset to our nation instead of adding to our nightmarish underclass. Educational, legal and other histories should be reviewed. Those immigrants from whatever land who successfully run this tough gauntlet are likely to be net benefits as opposed to net detractors to our nation. One of the principal problems with illegal immigrants is that it is unscreened, so instead of getting high-quality immigrants, we get the peasantry and urban poor of the Third World. They are unlikely to be net benefits to our land in either the short or long run. Chain migration (family reunification) should be drastically scaled back or ended altogether.
A commenter suggests that Russians are the smartest Whites.
It’s not the case. Russians are not at all the smartest Whites. Here are some recent scores. There is a North-South cline, but it’s not perfect at all. Italian is a very much a Med state, and it’s IQ is very high. France is mostly a Northern state, and it’s IQ is not so hot. Spain is a Med state with a high IQ. Ireland is a Northern state with a lower IQ than the rest.
Notice I title this piece White Europeans, because as a Pan-Aryanist, I not only believe that most all Caucasoids of Europe are White, but I also believe that there are Whites outside of Europe who are just as White as those of Europe.
Germany 107
Netherlands 107
Poland 106
Sweden 104
Italy 102
Austria 101
Switzerland 101
UK 100
Norway 100
Belgium 99
Denmark 99 (median)
Finland 99
Americans 98 (for comparison purposes)
Czech Republic 98
Hungary 98
Spain 98
Ireland 97
Russia 96
Greece 95
France 94
Bulgaria 94
Romania 94
Turkey 90
Serbia 89
I don’t have much to say about these scores. If France can produce such a great nation with an IQ of 94, then others with similar scores can do well too. Bulgaria, Romania, Russia, Hungary and the Czech Republic should be able to create some fine modern societies. They are surely smart enough to. These others listed below are certainly intelligent enough to do well for themselves. IQ is certainly not holding them back at any rate.
Mongolia 100
Vietnam 99.5
Estonia 99
Latvia 97.5
Ukraine 96
Belarus 96
UK East Indian 96
Uruguay 96
Moldova 95.5
US Mexican-American (2nd generation) 95
Argentina 94.5
Lithuania 94
US Filipino 94
Even Serbia has created an excellent modern society with an IQ of only 89. If you go to Belgrade, you would think you are in any modern US or European city. Even the countryside is not really backwards. Its health, education and development figures are excellent. There’s nothing inferior about the place other than their morals. If we take Serbia as the IQ at which one ought to be able to create a fine, modern, European-type society, things get a lot more interesting, and a lot more countries have the brains to do well.
Armenia 93.5
Georgia 93.5
Kazakhstan 93.5
Malaysia 92
Macedonia 92
Brunei 91.5
Cyprus 91.5
Chile 91.5
Thailand 91
Albania 90
Bermuda 90
Croatia 90
Costa Rica 90
Bosnia and Herzegovina 90
Cambodia 90
Cook Islands 89
Laos 89
Suriname 89
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