Game/PUA: How To Run a Relationship with a Woman or with More Than One Woman

I am actually a pretty nice guy. They say never to apologize to a woman, but I apologize a lot. At some point you can sound too wimpy and pitiful and you have to be careful not to cross that line.
You don’t have to be an asshole. But you need to fight back. Most guys never fight back against a woman. If you fight her hard when she is out of line, she actually falls for you even more, and it actually makes them horny.
Women are like children. Children always love to test parents’ boundaries and women always love to test men’s boundaries to see what they can get away with. I do not mean that women are childish, but they are rather childlike, which is a quality I like. Instead, women are naturally rebellious and mischievous and that is why they like to see what they can get away with like a devious, manipulative, mischievous child.
Women, like kids, actually want you to set some boundaries on them. Women actually like to be confined somewhat to a set of boundaries by a strong, somewhat dominant man and, like a child obeys a parent who sets boundaries on them, a woman will respect a man who sets boundaries on her.  Women also like to be controlled by strong, dominant men like kids like to be controlled by strong, dominant parents.
Women also want a man who is very loving, kind, and wonderful but also somewhat mean or even scary and possibly sociopathic. Dangerous men make women horny as Hell.
When she gets completely out of line, cuss her out like a sailor. Don’t cave in and don’t act like you got your feelings hurt. Laugh right in her face when she tries to insult you.
Laugh in her face when she says she doesn’t want to fuck, and say, “That’s what you think. You all say that. I’ll check back with you in a while and you will change your mind. They always do.” Give her a choice of where to sleep if sex is uncertain. I offer “a bed in a bedroom or the pull out couch.” If she picks the couch, laugh at her and say, “They all do that. I guarantee you will come knocking on my door in the night.” And often they do such that.
They love this and are shocked that a man is offering them a choice. Put it in her hands whether you have sex or not. Women love to be empowered and a lot of the time they decide to seduce you.
Women spend their whole lives fighting off horny men, and they freak out when they meet a man with an abundance mentality who acts like he could care less whether he has sex with them or not.
Also this implies that you have other women waiting in the wings. Always imply that you have other women waiting in the wings. Be mysterious about it.
Act like she is in competition with a lot of other really good women. I had one woman headed down that road, and she said, “There are probably a lot of other good, attractive women after you too. How can I compete with them?” It wasn’t true but I lied and said it was. This will make her feel insecure, but it’s better because now she thinks you are hot property and  she will have to be the best to land you.
Later on, she said, “You should pick me over those other women because I give the best deep throat west of the Mississippi.”
They love to compete with other women, and if they are not the only ones, they will try to be better and even out-fuck and out-kink the other women.
If you have two girlfriends at once, it is very difficult, but if she’s ok with it, occasionally play them off each other. If she acts bad, say, “I should leave you! You are mean to me! The (other woman) is never mean to me like you are!”
She will literally compete to try to beat a better girlfriend and will even say she is going to beat up the other woman, pull a knife on her, etc. If  you have two girlfriends, carefully make them jealous of each other so that they will fight over you. Women love to fight over men, especially men they consider the best men. Women fighting over you is literally Alpha.
Make her jealous of other women by acting like you are hot property so she regards you as a prized possession that she needs to fight off  other women to keep. I had one woman said, “I will cut a bitch with a knife if she tries to take you away from me.” Act like she might need to do just that. Tell her about other women who check you out. That makes you seem like she has to fight over other women to keep you.
Cultivate a bad boy persona and play it up to the hilt. Act like you live just barely outside the law. Play up an outlaw persona. Act like you don’t give a fuck. Brag about any victimless crimes you committed and emphasize how you got away with it. I lived as a criminal as a drug dealer for 14 years, and I never got caught. Women love to hear that and they especially love to hear how I never got caught. For some reason that really turns them on.
Act like you are God’s gift to women. A huge ego is probably one of the best things you can cultivate. I literally think I am King of the World. It’s bullshit, actually I am a pathetic failure, but I don’t care if it’s true or not. Everyone thinks men like that are douchebags, but women love vain, conceited, egotistical men.
But watch the narcissism and don’t go too far off into that, or you lose me. Plus hardcore narcissism like Narcissistic Personality Disorder, while being good Game in a number of ways, in my opinion is simply bad Game in many other ways. To me that behavior is straight up bad Game. You will be the guy everyone loves to hate. That’s automatically bad Game right there.
Do not act desperate! Forget to call her. Blow her off for a week or two. Let her chase you. If you make a date for 1-2 weeks in advance, wait until that time before you contact her. If you contact her in a day or two, you will seem desperate, over-eager and pathetic and she will dump you like a hot potato. I still make this mistake because it’s hard to wait 10 days for a date without contacting her.
Never admit you are falling in love with her. Just go ahead and do it, but keep it secret until she says she is falling for you, and then reveal it. Don’t fall too hard but that is hard to do.
I always keep a bit of a distance even when I am crazy in love. This leads to accusations that I don’t care. I do care, but we men often just don’t show it very much. Don’t act like you don’t care too much though even if that is your style because after a while, she will say you don’t love her and she will dump you on that basis. So show her enough love to seem like you care but not too much to where you a pathetic sop begging for validation every day.
On the other hand, the bit of distance makes her chase you and shows her you are not a desperate, pathetic idiot. No matter how hard you fall for her, never act like a desperate idiot who needs to talk to her all day long. You can say “I love you” especially if you are in the habit of saying that to each other, but don’t say it too much or you sound weak and pathetic. Never ask her if she loves you or not. It’s a dumb question and it makes you seem weak and wimpy. If she says she loves you, then she most likely does, so why ask like a wuss? If she falls out of love with you, she will stop saying “I love you,” guaranteed. Women, especially older women, don’t toss that phrase around.
Never ask her if you are nice or not. That’s pathetic. The main thing to keep in mind is to not act desperate or pathetic no matter what. Don’t reveal any weaknesses at all early on and only discuss strengths. If you have a life history of failure, rewrite it and create a fake history of success for yourself. You are now literally recreating an alternative past for yourself. It’s hard to do but if you are a devious bad boy type, you can probably do it, and plus it will be fun to be literally living a lie, like a spy or undercover agent. Just try to keep your lies straight. Unfortunately this doesn’t work very well and sooner or later people will become suspicious of your shifting stories and start to call you a liar. Laugh when they question your lies  and pretend you forgot or just say you don’t care and maybe you are a liar, ha ha. Try to keep track of which stories you have told to which people, so when you go to embellish you are not telling two different stories to one person. But when you are lying that much, you will get caught sooner or later, so you have to figure out how you will react when she calls you a liar or catches you in a lie. Main thing is to not angry and instead just laugh, make some dumb excuse, admit to being a liar and laugh about it, etc. Try to figure out how you will react in the best way when people catch you in your lies. Try different responses and see how well they work and modify accordingly.
Keep your failures to yourself and never reveal them even to your best girlfriend. After a while, you can slowly release some of the bad things that happened to you. You can even put yourself down and insult yourself a bit, especially if you don’t believe it. You can reveal weaknesses, but do it slowly, don’t cray and don’t act pathetic.
Be careful about revealing your worst Achilles Heels because she will store these in a database in her head and whip them out and start shooting nuclear weapons right at your most ultra-sensitive areas when she gets angry. I call this “trying to get murdered,” and women actually do try to get murdered all the time.
Don’t hit her unless she hits you and then don’t hit back very hard.
Even with a girlfriend, seduce her properly at the right times and appropriate places. Don’t act like you are desperate for sex all the time. Act like you could care less if you have sex with her or not and act like you are leaving it up to her. Make her seduce you.
Have sex with her a lot or all the time, but don’t make a big deal out of it. Treat it like you treat drinking a glass of water. This will rev her up and make her want to do it all the time too. Don’t ask her if she’s horny or not. Never ask her if she wants to have sex. Just start touching her, kissing her or whatever you do. Never ask permission to touch her, kiss her, etc. inside or outside of bed as long as you are doing normal things.
If you want to do specific sex acts, talk about them beforehand and discuss. Say, “If I ever do or say something you don’t like, let me know.” Don’t act too depraved or evil in bed. Don’t hatefuck her, although some like it. Even if you engage in rough sex, tell her it’s just a game and then treat her like she’s a princess you worship outside of bed. Rough stuff is fun in bed, but if you are treating her like shit all the time, you are way off in BD/SM land, and you just lost me.

Alt Left: A Clue to Modern Black Behavior from Evolution

Negroids, the only African race with which most of us are familiar, developed only in the past 6-12,000 years in West Africa in the context of organized agriculture. They developed very strong bodies and high levels of aggression due to selection pressure in villages with a tribal chief-based system. The chief and his men often monopolized most of the women, leaving the rest of them with few women for themselves. In one tribe the other men were left with no women, and they engaged in homosexuality their whole lives.
The intense selection pressure resulted in the biggest and meanest men rising to the top and breeding with the most women. So they selected for sociopathy, narcissism, a womanizing mindset, cruelty and sadism, high levels of aggression, and very strong bodies.
If you look at Negroid men the world over, it’s pretty obvious that they have selected for these characteristics because they display them at higher levels than other races.
Black men are twice as likely to be psychopaths as Whites.
Personality tests have consistently shown higher levels of (healthy) narcissism in both Black man and women.
Both Black men and women have higher sex drives than Whites, and both Black men women have selected for extreme secondary sex characteristics such as large breasts and buttocks in the female and large penises in the male.

The "Indian Personality" and Indian Society in a Nutshell

LH: Interesting post. I’ve recently noticed some things that have painted Indians in a bad light for me. (Of course, at this point I’m not sophisticated enough to differentiate between different groups/castes, so I don’t know to which subset this applies.)
Is pettiness, jealousy and envy, mixed with frankly bad judgment a common set of traits? I’ve seen this in more than one person and was wondering whether I was seeing a pattern based on a too-small sample.
RL: LOL! This is an essential aspect of the Indian character! Not sure about the bad judgement part, but the other three, of course. That is the “Indian personality.”
dumbo: I think that’s true. They act catty like the ugly friend does when you talk to the pretty one – except all the time. All they do is cock-block each other in everything and act petty and jealous – crabs in a bucket. If you try to treat one like a normal person with trust and respect, they think there must be something wrong with you. It’s repeated prisoners’ dilemma with low trust – everyone gets zapped every time.
Hence the shitting on the streets and corruption. And all the tall claims about how Indians figured out everything thousands of years ago. They don’t expect anyone to believe them, much less take them seriously- the purpose of talking is to bullshit, not to communicate a point or have a proper discussion.

Dumbo’s comment is perfect. That’s why I love this site. Only eight sentences and the last seven of them are perfect. Read each sentence carefully and try to picture what’s going on. Also try to piece it together into a coherent whole and you will see how most of these things sort of latch onto and tie into each other in a common syndrome.
I never cared anything about Indian people until I started meeting some on the Web. I talked to them for a while, and after a bit, I became appalled at these amoral scoundrels. And soon I realized that about everyone over there was a scoundrel. Being a scoundrel is normal in India. That’s actually how you are supposed to be. I tried to talk to some of them about this and I ran into a brick wall.
One guy was cooking up endless schemes to get money. None of them were well thought out and some were rather scammy. Also in the US we don’t really like people who every time you talk to them are always talking about some money making scheme they are trying to get you in on. It’s considered sleazy to be like that all the time, at least in my White middle class upbringing crowd.
Indians go on and on about how it’s racism that people don’t like them. We don’t get a damn about how you look. If someone has a crap personality and you dislike them, are you an evil bigot? Of course not. Well, when an entire nation has an appalling personality and you dislike the people who come there because they all seem to have this same crap personality, how is that racism? Were they born being lousy people? Do Indians have a Crappy People gene? Well of course not.
If they’d get rid of their crap personality, we’d like them just fine. As it is, I don’t really want anymore of these lousy people in my country. We already have enough narcissistic sociopaths running about. Hell, our own president is one and his followers love the fact that he is a sick as a death ward malignant narcissist. They think being a malignant narcissist is good. Trumpsters would be right at home in India. Is the Trumpster personality like the Indian personality or is it different. Would Indians be offensive to Trumpsters in their personalities?
The weird thing about Indians is that they act dumbfounded if you are appalled at their awful personalities and worldviews. To them this disgusting way of thinking is completely normal. They can’t understand why everyone isn’t a selfish fuck only out for himself like they are. “You mean there are people who actually try to be good? That’s so weird?” the Indian says, baffled.
Americans regard their own people who have typical Indian personality as pretty much lousy people. People who act that way are targets of a lot of negative comments about how disgusting they are. Sure, a lot of society like capitalist fanboys think this is just groovy and everyone should be a greedy little shit like them. But a lot of us still cringe at the used car salesman mindset and personality. Get out of here!
This racist accusation is getting abused. If you don’t like some ethnic group because their culture is crap, that’s not racism. The early Soviets and Maoists attacked the cultures of a lot of ethnic groups in their countries, calling them backwards and barbaric. Were they racists for saying that? I am tired of this word racist being used by barbarians, backwards, uncivilized people towards those who criticize their primitive behavior. The word racist was not meant to be an umbrella protecting all reactionary peoples and cultures from criticism. Death to the Cultural Left! They’re the ones promoting this insane definition of racism.
India is where the Human Soul goes to die. India is like a place where everything good about the human soul has died or been cruelly murdered and all that’s left is the lousy, mercenary parts of being human. It’s a testament to our remaining humanity that Americans still say two thumbs down on this stuff.

Alt Left: Identity Politics: The Politics for Those Who Will Always Be Six Years Old

You guys wonder why I hate Identity Politics so much? It’s because it’s all exactly like this. Take out women and plug in all sorts of other things:
Blacks (one of the worst practitioners of this bullshit of all):
Does that statement make Blacks look good? Yes ————————————————–> Statement is true.
Does that statement make Blacks look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
I would add that almost all Blacks subscribe to this “moral philosophy.”
Gays
Does that statement make gays look good? Yes ——————————> Statement is true.
Does that statement make gays look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
Transsexuals:
Does that statement make transsexuals look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.
Does that statement make transsexuals look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
Men (MRA’s):
Does that statement make men look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.
Does that statement make men look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
Whites (White nationalists)
Does that statement make Whites look good? Yes —————————————————–> Statement is true.
Does that statement make Whites look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
Jews (They started this whole mess).
Does that statement make women look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.
Does that statement make women look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
All nationalists ever anywhere:
Does that statement make my nation look good? Yes ——————————————————–> Statement is true.
Does that statement make my nation look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
My position is that all IP is simply various forms of egotism blown up to encompass a larger group. It’s still all about me me me me me, but now it is about “Me as part of a larger group of people like me” instead of “me as a unique individual.”
So what all forms of idiot IP boil down to is
Me:
Does that statement make me look good? Yes —————————————————-> Statement is true.
Does that statement make me look anything less than stellar? Yes ———————> Statement is false.
If you hung around humans long enough, you should have figured out that the primary purpose of the ego, in addition to mediating conflicts between the Id and the Superego, is to do exactly the thing outlined above – to preserve ego strength by saying that all criticism of the self is lies and all praise of the self is fact. The ego is a normal part of human psychology, but humans are supposed to get beyond the shallow egotism of childhood in order to take more responsibility for the self, become more secure, tone down the egotism, become more humble, and if possible, admit to some faults and try to change them. People who can’t do that pretty much stay six years old forever. We call them a lot of things, but one thing we call some of them is narcissists.
Look how retarded IP is! Why would anyone in the right mind sign up for any sort of bullshit IP “politics for six year olds?” Why? Because you never grew up? Because you love being paranoid? Because you love being a victim? Because you love being locked in eternal warfare with a dubious enemy Other? Because you love being pissed off and miserable your whole life? And most importantly because you reject logic, reason, and sense in favor or petty irrational emotionalism?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Mother Nature Bats Last, Again

Mother Nature is embedded in your gender in a way it is not embedded in your race.
And no matter how hard you try to run away from Mother Nature, it seems she always catches up to you in the end. At some point you might as well quit running and just accept Natural Law and your role in it.
If you are a man, Natural Law says you act like a man, so just accept it and do it. Quit fighting it. I have met a lot of straight men who were not very masculine, but most had this masculine personality deep inside of them, and when they got around me, I could see a lot of it come out because despite those who say it’s not true, I am a pretty masculine guy in a way. At least these fairly unmasculine friends of mine thought of me as “macho.”
When they got around me, they imitated me and got into this masculine role. I could see the light in them go off as they got in touch with their deeply recessed masculinity. I think most straight men want to feel this way, and they feel a lot better when they start acting more masculine.
I have known some very wimpy men who were very miserable as wimpy unmasculine man. I later saw them become more masculine, and they sure seemed a lot happier. Masculinity in men and femininity in women seem to both hit that “sweet spot” in a way that few other things do. There is a real sense of contentment and being in one’s true place when one accesses their true gender roles.
Notice how gay (feminine) men and lesbian (masculine) women are not very happy? I thought about this for a long time, and I believe it is because they are violating Natural Law. Things that violate Nature are allowed to exist but often do not function very well because they are outside of their natural role.
Kids are raised best with a mother and father, and it’s best if they stay together. Children of divorce, single mothers, and now gay and lesbian couples are much less healthy than those raised in traditional families. The only reason I can think for this is because they are violating Nature in some way. If you violate Nature, you usually survive, but Nature enforces its law by making you less happy and/or less functional.

What Is Like To Talk with Someone with an IQ of ~90?

Answered on Quora:
Tell you what. Go to a town where many Hispanic or Latino Americans live. Walk around a bit and talk to some people. Your average US Hispanic has an IQ of 90. So your average person in that town will have about a 90 IQ, and after you talk to a few of them, you should get a feel for how someone at that IQ score thinks.
You can also go find a bunch of White high school dropouts. They also have 89 IQ’s, right around the same. That would be a lot harder to do though.
I don’t want to use Hispanics as an example, but since they have an average IQ of 90, once you have talked to hundreds of them, you get a feel for what people at that IQ level are like.
I hate to say, but the difference between 100 IQ people and 90 IQ is quite noticeable, even dramatic.
My experience is with people who seem to have 90 IQ’s, both Whites and Hispanics. Their ignorance was shocking. They had never heard of labor unions, the Latin language, or artificial respiration.
One told me that Mixteco, an family of Indian languages in Mexico with ~40 different languages in it is a dialect of Spanish! Of course it isn’t. It’s an Amerindian language, as far from Spanish as Chinese. When someone is that preposterously and idiotically wrong, I don’t even argue with them. I just nod my head.
One told me Salinas is right next to San Diego, and he laughed at me when I insisted it wasn’t. On the contrary, they are 400 miles apart. This guy grew up in Salinas, and he had no idea where it was on a map within hundreds of miles!
Starting to get the idea?
They simply have no use for what a lot of us would call book knowledge. They exist at a much simpler level, and I imagine they are probably happier than we brooding brainiacs are.
However, they are certainly intelligent enough to do their jobs as restaurant clerks or servers, supermarket cashiers, secretaries and whatnot. They do very well at those jobs. They’re in their element.
Also their ignorance is not dangerous the way the ignorance of others is. As you move up on the IQ scale towards 100 or 110, you start finding people who are horribly ignorant, can’t think properly, but are just smart enough to get the complete wrong answer and end up reading you the wrong way, interpreting innocent remarks as bizarre, insane, incomprehensible, or dangerous.
In other words, they are too stupid to get the right answer (which is fine) but they are just smart enough to completely misread you and get the absolute wrong answer.
Some are too suspicious due to ignorance, but they are pretty easily ignored. Simply don’t ever speak to them or deal with them at all.
On the other hand, the 90 IQ person just listens to you and either understands you or doesn’t. If you are incomprehensible, they just give you a blank look or ask what you are talking about. They aren’t smart enough to read you the wrong way and get the wrong answer, because they are not coming up with any answer!
90 IQ people are pleasant enough. Most are rather simple people who do not have strong emotions. They breeze through life don’t want to cause a lot of worries, fights or problems. They take life as it is without challenging it, seeing through it, or feeling angry or frustrated with it.
They live for simple good times, conversation about basic life issues and especially people, have some understanding of psychology, and like to gossip. Some of the older ones have some understanding of business, law, taxation, duties as a citizen, how to negotiate around government and insurance bureaucracies, and even medicine, believe it or not.
They don’t expect much out of life, but they don’t cause many problems either because a lot of problems are caused by people thinking too hard and getting the wrong answer.
90 IQ people don’t ever think too hard, so they end up being rather pleasant, happy and enjoyable people.
They like jokes, sex, and food. They love to joke and laugh. There are some who work at stores around here who I joke with, tease, and laugh with all the time. We make fun of each other in the simple, friendly, and non-offensive way of close friends.
I don’t want to have a brain like that, but in a way, I envy them. It must be so much easier to breeze through life. Maybe the less you think, the happier you are.
So there is your 90 IQ person, a mixture of good and bad. The ignorance is not good from my POV. It won’t fly with me, but these people are almost four SD’s below me. I won’t have close friendships with them, but casual acquaintanceship is pleasant enough if you keep the discussion to the basic commonalities of human existence that we all share.
On the other hand, their ignorance could be seen as outset by their many positive qualities in their simple, easy-going, laughing, joking, non-serious, fun-oriented attitude towards life.

Can Your IQ Increase During Adolescence?

Answered on Quora.
Yes, oddly enough, IQ does move around somewhat, including gains or losses of up to 10–15 points, during adolescence. It is not quite known why IQ can move around a bit in adolescence, but in that stage of life, you can move around in a lot of ways. Your personality is not fully formed yet, so we cannot diagnose personality disorders in adolescence.
In addition, you can intervene with some dangerous adolescents, and if you work hard enough, you can make some good progress with them. I recall a young man who seemed to be headed for a career as a rapist, but they grabbed him as a teenager and threw him into intensive therapy. He’s now 40–50, and he hasn’t raped anyone yet. Some adolescents may be on track to seriously assault, attempt to kill or kill other people. I believe that if grab them early enough as teenagers and work hard on them, we can at least get to where they don’t kill anyone during their lifetimes. I have had some good success with people like this myself.
In adulthood, your IQ gets a lot more stuck and it’s hard to raise it. Long ago when I was in high school, a friend told me that a psychologist told him that you could raise your IQ ~15 points even in adulthood if you really put a Herculean effort into it, but it’s so hard to do, that most don’t do it.
He also said that you hit a ceiling at 15 IQ points gain, and you can’t gain any more than that. I think you might be able to lose ~15 IQ points if you sit on your butt, never think or open a book, or stay stoned or drunk a lot. But you will probably hit a floor where you can’t drop it anymore no matter how much of a slacker you are.
Large IQ declines are sometimes seen in illnesses, particularly illnesses of the brain. There is a woman on Quora who documented I believe a 57 point drop in IQ due to her Multiple Sclerosis. She was at Genius IQ before and she fell down to Low Normal. Other MS sufferers also complain of IQ drops. MS is a disease of the brain, so it makes sense.

Is It Rude If You Don't Keep Your Eye Contact when People Talk to You?

Answered on Quora.
You are not supposed to yell at someone over things like that, but then I am an introvert and I hardly yell at anyone over anything, even when I probably ought to.
On the other hand, an extrovert may well yell at you for something like that because, well, that’s just the way they ride. This is one of things that makes it hard for us introverts to get along with extroverts.
They’re always raising their voices, getting angry, sort of yelling, and blowing up a little bit. Then later on they act like nothing happened. I guess they do this as a matter of course with everyone they know. To us that seems mean and it also seems like there is something wrong with them, like they can’t control themselves very well.
Now we introverts, wow. I mean someone yells at us for no good reason? To us that means the whole relationship is over. We can go years without even raising our voices at a good friend or lover. We think if you ever raise your voice at someone, you better have a damn good reason.
Avoiding eye contact is a serious social violation, but some very shy people just do it that way. It tends to shut down most conversations on its own though. If I am talking to someone and they are avoiding eye contact with me, that conversation is going to be over pretty soon. I must say that if you go about avoiding eye contact with others regularly when you talk to them, you are committing social suicide.
To me, it’s rude to order someone to look me in the eyes. I would never say that. But then I am very reticent about confronting or engaging people in all sorts of adversarial ways. I am just not an aggressive person. Anyway, I have been told a lot that I don’t look people in the eye when I talk to them. Not so much anymore, more when I was young. I always thought I was looking them in the eye, but I guess I wasn’t, or maybe not enough!
I can be very soft-spoken myself, and people do ask me to repeat things fairly often. I would probably talk louder in that class. If someone was speaking so softly that I could not hear them, I would tell them to please speak up. But I would say it very nicely.
Often if you are in a quiet place, the other person will just start speaking softly too, and then you have two soft-spoken people conversing in a quiet environment. To us introverts, that’s a gloriously intimate event, one of life’s most special pleasures. There’s something very special about two friends speaking in very soft tones to each other in a quiet environment. It’s just you and then, alone together against the world. It’s beautiful, really, or at least to an introvert.
And if you are with a woman, and she starts speaking quietly along with you in a quiet place, that often means she’s up for something intimate and sexually oriented, so that’s another plus. By lowering her voice like that, she is lowering her guard and opening up her door or gate for you, so to speak. She’s also descending to a very intimate place with you. It would be unusual for her to do that with only platonic overtones.
Things are getting sexy, man! Bust a move, brothers! Go for it!

How Those Hip, Groovy, Cool IT Capitalists Are Actually Some of the Worst Capitalists Ever

There was this idea that the Internet capitalists were somehow going to be different from the rest of the capitalists. The Internet guys were cool, hip, groovy and right on.
The truth is that the IT capitalists have actually turned out to be some of the worst capitalists of them all!
The brick and mortar model is far better for consumers than horrific ecommerce, where consumer abuse is the name of the game, and customer service is a nonexistent concept.
Ever noticed that if you ever have a problem with a product, you can always take it back to the brick and mortar store and get the matter cleared up to your satisfaction? That’s customer service at the brick and mortar level. It’s almost always superb because in brick and mortar, the customer is always right.
Because ecommerce has severed the face to face ties that humanize and create the great customer service model at the brick mortar level, the motto in ecommerce is the customer is always a sucker to be milked, ripped off, and hung out to dry. Ever tried to get your money back on software? I have. Suppose your software simply does not work. It’s happened to me. Too bad there are no refunds! I mean maybe there are refunds, but good luck getting one because all software companies have destroyed the notion of customer service. There simply is no customer service desk at most IT corporations. There’s no such thing.

A Rogue’s Gallery of IT CEO’s

Look at the examples.
Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon, and a truly horrible human being. Amazon’s corporate culture is one of the worst in the US and for the life of me, I do not know why anyone would work at this modern day IT salt mine there unless they were a masochist. Bezos orders all higher level employees to be at each other throats all the time, and everyone is trying to backstab and sabotage everyone else so they can steal that person’s job.
Quite a few people said that working for Amazon ruined their mental and physical health. The warehouse workers are horrifically abused, worked like whipped pack animals and forced to work in sweltering heat until they collapse. They are poorly paid and are frankly some of the worst-treated workers in America today. Psychopath Bezos delights in this dog eat dog law of the jungle atmosphere, as he feels that this is what has driven his company’s success. That’s dubious to me. At any rate, what of the human tool?
Bill Gates’ behavior when running his corporation was about as sociopathic as any career criminal.
(((Steve Ballmer))), his second in command, is an obvious psychopath and a terrifying man.
(((Ralph Ellison))), CEO of Oracle is an extreme narcissist and all-around lousy person. He’s basically a Libertarian like so many capitalists.
(((Mark Zuckerberg))) of Facebook out and out ripped off the idea for Facebook from a fellow college student he developed it with while never giving his partner a nickel.
If you study enough of these guys, you will notice how many of them stole their way to the top.
Microsoft stole just about every piece of software they ever developed. They violated endless patents. They cheated and backstabbed every single company that partnered with them. They tore up and violated every legal contract they ever signed. Bill Gates was the Ted Bundy of the IT corporate world.
Scott MacNealy, head of Sun Enterprises, was hero of the new geek Net culture. MacNealy slyly made use of monopoly law to go after Microsoft, and that was a very good thing. On the other hand, MacNealy was a Libertarian like so many capitalists, and it was clear to anyone that MacNealy was only anti-monopoly because a monopoly was ruining his business and would have loved nothing more than for Sun, victim of  monopoly, to become a monopoly itself and victimize its own rivals.
Even Steve Jobs was said to be an awful boss, a tyrant who terrorized all of his employees. He was an A-1 asshole of the first degree.
The founder of the Adultfriender dating site Andrew Conru ran an extremely amoral business, was an extreme psychopath and was hated by everyone who worked for him. His site, like most dating sites, is run on an organized crime model. For one thing, overbilling is standard practice and not an error. The FTC has issued at indictment against the company for systematic billing fraud. The overwhelming majority of dating sites and almost almost 100% of the sexually explicit ones are nothing but criminal enterprises run by organized crime masquerading as legitimate businesses. The vast majority of the CEO’s of dating sites belong in prison for fraud. The whole industry is incredibly enough run on an actual Fraud Model.
Former founder and CEO of Uber (((Travis Kalanick))) is a narcissistic psychopath and a sexist to boot. His corporate bro culture is horrible to their female employees, and the corporate environment is toxic and terrifying. Uber drivers are terribly abused, dishonestly called independent contractors, receive no benefits whatsoever, and are often paid below the minimum wage.
You could always boycott Uber and try Lyft, but Lyft is almost as bad as Uber.
Let’s hear it for the new sharing economy! Hip, hip, hooray!
Peter Thiel, the founder of PayPal, is a monster of a man with truly horrifying political views. He believes society should be ruled by an aristocratic elite, no doubt especially Internet billionaires, has a near-monarchical view of the state and displays a profound hatred for democracy, which he wants to phase out as it gets in the way of aristocratic royalist billionaire rule.
Elon Musk is no good. All you decent humans need to quit idolizing this capitalist POS right now. He’s the latest groovy businessman that everyone loves and idolizes.
He is very smart, this is true. He has some good ideas, this is true.
But have you seen how he runs his factories? Workers at his factories have long complained of severe abuse by management. The rot starts at the top with Musk and extends all the way down. They are poorly paid, seriously abused, and not allowed to from unions. Musk has arrogantly refused to even look at these problems and insists that they do not exist. He seems to have contempt for his own workers like so many capitalists. This guy is not the latest Tech Age groovy billionaire idol of humanity. He’s just another piece of crap capitalist like all the rest of them.
 

Newsflash: Many Surgeons are Controlled Sociopaths

A new trick among surgeons is to take one operation and chopping it up into four smaller operations and double their money. There are actually popular seminars for surgeons showing them exactly how to do this. What a sleazy ripoff!
However, many other physicians frown on this scummy behavior. A physician who does this can lose their hospital privileges and get sued. When I worked as a paralegal, most of my time there was spent working on the defense of a sociopathic lowlife physician who did exactly that, and that was exactly what was happening to him. Local hospitals had revoked his privilege, and a number of his former patients were justifiably suing his crooked ass. And I was getting paid to legally defend this guy. It was morally trying to make a living defending slugs like this, but the money was good, and I sloughed off the guilt. Doubt if I would do it again though. Some jobs actually cause moral injury, in my opinion.
This arrogant dirtbag was suing the hospitals who had revoked his privileges! And we were helping him do that, and getting paid from his unlimited money supply in the process. The arrogance. I see narcissism, and it looks like some sociopathy too.
It’s not well known, but many physicians are controlled psychopaths. The field of surgery is full of them. And you wondered why so many surgeons have the reputation of being the worst arrogant physicians of them all. These professionals have learned to channel their sociopathy into quasi-legal avenues in order to become “legal criminals.” But these folks do a lot of damage. Look at our politicians corporate executives? Just how many are not controlled psychopaths?

The Problem of Overdiagnosis in Mental Health

Zed: Most of psychology is whack bullshit considering the Jewish involvement. As many Jews are in medical field, they coin new terms to swindle money. While I am not calling entire psychology bullshit, it’s being stretched to include even normal behaviors. Lots of people are scared that normal behaviour like anger, happiness, crying would be branded as some kind of disorders. I looked up on it. There are many people I could identify as having passive aggression with its definition. It hardly matters, as they appear normal, and to brand them as some kind of mentally ill is a Jewish ploy. What have Jews called their pet groids who’re almost symbolic with destruction? Nothing!! That’s Jew psychopathy for you.

I guess I will have to disagree with you there.
If your personality seems normal to most everyone else, and if it is not ruining your life, we would say it’s not pathological. Only 14% of Americans have a personality disorder. That’s only one in seven. I work in the field though, and I have been studying psychology most via auto-didact for most of my life, and now I actually work as a psychological counselor. The more I work in this field, the more I think that in general, the field is onto something.
There is a lot of misdiagnosis around. I’ve been diagnosed psychotic a number of times by clinicians. That’s all wrong. I’ve never been psychotic a day in my life except when Trash drove me insane.
I received a diagnosis of Depression just the other day, and I think it’s wrong.
This same guy also insisted that I was either psychotic or used to be solely on the basis that I use marijuana. Last time I used it was 3 1/2 years ago, but no matter. Everyone who smokes pot is delusional according to this guy.
I was also recently diagnosed with “narcissism” but he said I did not meet criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, thank God. I despise narcissists, so I contacted my favorite old therapist who I have not seen in 10+ years. He told me that I was not a narcissist. He said that instead I had something called “high self-esteem.” He said high self-esteem is often confused with narcissism, but it’s not the same thing.
In my own practice, I try very hard to avoid Diagnosis Creep. I think we should diagnose people with the absolute minimal number of disorders. A lot of times, someone will meet partial criteria for a couple of disorders, but we can’t give them full diagnosis. I have met partial criteria for GAD and Panic Disorder before, but I doubt if I meet any of those criteria now. If you want to check partial criteria, you will get a lot more people, but those are not full disorders. Diagnosing someone with a mental disorder is pretty serious business. I think we should do so as sparingly as possible.
For instance, of course passive aggression is everywhere. I have been accused of it myself. But in my entire life, I have only met one person who I felt actually met criteria for Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder. His personality is seriously screwed up by this problem, and it makes him a very annoying person to be around. He’s simply not normal. Not only is he passive aggressive, but his PA is so extreme that in my opinion it demands to be called some sort of mental disorder. I would very much object to the idea that this man’s behavior is normal or healthy at all. God forbid that it might become more common.
I would agree with you though that overdiagnosis is a very serious problem in the biz. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is money-driven. There is a tendency of clinicians to look at people, especially clients, as being much more ill than they really are. Their limits on normal behavior are quite ridiculous in my opinion. When you walk in that room, you’re the Sick One, and they are the Healthy One or the Sane One.
As a peer counselor, I try to get away from all that. The first thing I assure my clients is that I’m nuts too! I usually point out that I’m not nearly as nuts as they are (I don’t put it that way usually), but I was at some point, and if I got this much better, they can too! When they go down the list of their symptoms, I often tell them that I have experienced such symptoms myself, but that was a long time ago, or that I used to feel that way a lot, but I worked my way out of it, as I found that that was not a healthy way to walk through life. My basic attitude is, “I’ve been there too.”
In fact I am so sick and tired of playing the Sick Role while the clinician plays the Sane Role or Healthy Role that I have not been in therapy for a few years now. I’m graduated anyway. They told me I’m well enough that they don’t need to see me anymore anyway. I was on the state’s dime, so my care can be rationed which is fine with me.

Face It: No One Has a Healthy Personality

All of us have healthy and sick aspects of our personalities. It’s more or less normal to be nuts. Life takes its toll. Life wounds all heels and all of the rest of us too. I am not sure if there are any truly healthy people. If you went through 25,000 people, you might find one healthy person. I had a therapist once who told me that he had dealt with 20,000 in his career, and he hadn’t met one healthy person yet. He was of the opinion that there was no such thing. The general idea then would be to try to be least nuts and the most healthy that you can be and banish ideas such crazy, sane, unhealthy and healthy.
Sure we all have disordered personalities, but some people have personalities that are so disordered that we say they have a problem. We do not like to dole out diagnoses like candy, and there has been a strong movement nowadays to avoid pathologizing normal behavior. It’s a huge backlash against the DSMization of mental illness or the medical model as they put it. But I am a fan of the medical model. In my work, I have found that it is pretty much valid.
We call something a disorder if it making you miserable or seriously impairs your ability to function. It also may well be getting in the way with other people as others may  be reacting badly to your disorder.
In the case personality disorders, these folks generally think they are fine and that there is nothing wrong with them. The problem is with everyone else.
So who says they’re nuts? Well the problem is that in the PD’s we are dealing with a personality that is so far along the disordered spectrum that even other people start thinking that there is something  seriously off about this person’s personality. It has to be pretty bad as humans are tolerant folks, and most of us are aware that we’re at least a bit nuts themselves. People with PD’s are abrasive, annoying and exasperating and often cause a lot of impersonal chaos and drama. In other cases, the PD makes it very hard for the person to function socially. The person seems so strange and weird that others simply do not wish to deal with them. We think this is a problem because the PD is seriously getting into the way as far as functioning.
There continue to be arguments about the validity of some disorders.

Psychopathology of Serial Murderers

The primary problem with almost all serial killers is simply ASPD, Antisocial Personality Disorder, derived sociopathy or primary psychopathy. It is present in almost 100% of such cases. Most everything else is rather secondary to this primary character disorder, which is the most prominent symptom.
Very rare is the serial killer without this disorder, although there have been a few. I remember a long-distance trucker who turned himself when he walked into a Northern California police station with a woman’s breast in his top shirt pocket. He had camped out in forests while trucking and had picked up women and killed them. He kept the body of one in the truck for three or four days and drove around with it.
Experts said he was quite unusual in that they said he actually felt bad about what he had done. I wonder how bad he really felt though. You could not get me to drive around in a truck with a dead woman in the back for very long. I would go into severe panic pretty fast, would stop the truck, get out and start walking or probably running away. I would not be able to walk around with a woman’s breast in my shirt for long either. I would completely panic almost right away, take the shirt off, throw it on the ground and start running. But then I am a pretty guilty type person with a strong conscience.
Based on that, while I am sure he may have felt some guilt for his killings, the fact that he was able to drive around in a truck with a dead woman in the  back for 3-4 days shows without completely flipping out shows to me that he didn’t feel that much guilt, certainly not on the level that most of us would. And the fact that he could rather calmly walk into a police station with a cut off breast in his pocket without flying into total panic shows to me that he didn’t feel that bad about it. So guilt, even when it is present, is not as strong as in most of us, otherwise they would not have even done such horrible things in the first place.
Sexual sadism is also often present, and I have heard that Sadistic Personality Disorder is very common. Juvenile delinquency, voyeurism, exhibitionism, burglary, prowling, petty thievery, etc. typically precede the serial killings. When the serial killer starts killing, he usually has a fairly long rap sheet of more minor offenses. The murders are best seen as an escalation of a chronic criminal character type.
The ones who kill children are typically though not always preferential or fixated pedophiles. Certainly the ones who kill only children are preferential pedophiles. There is a type of pedophile called a mysoped, which is a sadistic pedophile. They are not very common. I doubt if 5% of pedophiles are like this, but these people are very dangerous. Probably almost all serial child killers are mysopeds and these crimes often have a sexual basis.
95% of rapists are the type that rarely if ever go serial, but the sadistic rapist, composed of no more than 5% of rapists, is very dangerous. Most if not all rapist serial killers are sadistic rapists.
The rage rapist is dangerous, but he generally does not intend to kill his victim although he assault her. If she fights back or gets difficult, he can fly into a rage and beat her so badly that she dies but again he usually does not intend to kill. I doubt if these types go serial much if at all. Serial killers intend to kill; rage rapists do not.
Malignant narcissism, the disorder, believe it or not, of our wonderful President, is also present sometimes. Ted Bundy was a malignant narcissist. Yes, our wonderful President has the same mental illness as Ted Bundy! Comforting thought.
A few have Schizoid Personality Disorder, and some of the more disturbed ones have Borderline Personality Disorder.
Schizotypal, Paranoid and Narcissistic Personality Disorders are rare if ever seen in serial killers. Schizotypals are probably too disorganized and decompensated and just out and out strange to commit such crimes. The serial killer must blend in, and schizotypals do not do that. A few schizotypals have committed mass murders. James Holmes the Aurora Batman Theater Shooter, was a notable case. But note that he was caught immediately.
Paranoid PD is rarely if ever seen. These people tend to be rather retiring and like to hide away from a hostile world. They also do not like to call attention to themselves from a hostile world. They are suspicious and distrustful by nature and this makes it hard for them to blend in well with ordinary society as serial killers often do.
Narcissists are usually too self-centered to kill. While narcissists are often very mean, the disorder is usually well-controlled in that the rage rarely escalates to homicide. There have been a few cases of NPD’s committing mass murder, usually of their families.
The case of Jeffrey MacDonald, the mass murdering physician of Fatal Vision, seems to be such a case. This is a superb true crime case by the way.
Also narcissists think that if they kill, they will get caught, and if they are in prison or jail they will not be able to live this wonderful life they are supposed to be killing. They are “too cool to kill.” Killing would mess up all their wonderful plans to exploit others and hold them up to contempt by millions of people, which the narcissist would have a hard time taking. The narcissist is “too good for prison.” Prison would be such a crushing blow to their self-image that it would very hard to take.
However, malignant narcissists can be very dangerous because this is a combination of psychopathy, sadism, Paranoid PD and Narcissistic PD. When you weaponize NPD with paranoia, sadism and particularly psychopathy, you create a dangerous illness.
Cluster C Personality Disorders like Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder, Self-Defeating Personality Disorder, Dependent Personality Disorder and Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder are rarely if ever present in these types. These are PD’s where aggression is mostly displayed passively, and serial killers display aggression actively, not passively.
Mood disorders do not seem to be common. Bipolar Disorder is not common, and serial killers are rarely if ever depressed. They displace guilt and loathing outwards instead of pushing it inside of themselves as depressives do. Depressives are passive, and depression acts as sort of a freezing agent in that it tends to immobilize people by its nature. Men in general tend to either experience less depression than women or mask it with other things such as anger and rage, drinking, drugs, gambling, promiscuity or even workaholism. It is simply not acceptable as a man to be depressed, so depressed men simply channel their depression into other things and say they are not depressed, they are just drunks or workaholics, for instance.
Substance and alcohol abuse issues are quite common with serial killers, but the better ones are more sober, as drinkers and dopers tend to be scattered and unreliable and serial killers must be on the ball  24-7.
Only a few are psychotic. 2% of serial killers are psychotic. Psychotic people can barely organize a trip to the bathroom. How are they going to plot out elaborate and professional serial homicides?
They are motivated by many things, but your typical rape-murders of murders of attractive young women almost always have a sexual component. I would call these serial killings lust murders. The Germans coined the term. Even among the lust-murders, there are a number of different types. Some are motivated by purely sexual desires, others get off specifically on killing and the power gained from it, others are hunter types who get pleasure from the hunt and chase as if they were hunting an animal, which they are of course, but when we refer to hunters, we are always talking about hunters of non-human animals.

Analytical Thinkers Adrift in a Concretistic, Illogical World

On the other hand, high IQ is no guarantee of good critical thinking. I know people with genius IQ’s who engage in lousy, erroneous, non-critical thinking all the time. This is because they are emotional. Their emotions override and shut down their critical thinking skills.  Emotion and logic mixes about as well as oil and water. Also many of these people are stuck on their old ideas and they do not wish to challenge or reject the stuff they have been believing their whole life. Challenging long-held assumptions about how the works is probably upsetting to most people and no doubt causes a lot of anxiety. So people just carry on with their same old  erroneous and dumb attitudes because changing them is just too upsetting.
I’m not saying analytical thinking is everything. If anything, it is very alienating because the world operates on concrete thinking. Concrete thinking with its concordant logical fallacies are the norm for most humans. Sure it’s a dumb way to think, but most people think in pretty dumb ways. That’s just how humanity is.
So if you are an analytical thinker, you are always running into people spouting off their erroneous and concretistic bullshit. In addition, concrete thinking is often hateful and it is injurious to other humans.
This is because when you change from concrete to analytical thinking, you realize that people are a lot less contemptible than you thought they were.
Concrete thinking leads to hate and prejudice. One thing concrete thinkers do is to assume the worst about people. Say you observe a behavior, a guy hiking down a trail, or you read an essay someone wrote. If you are thinking concretely, you are much more likely to be suspicious and  believe that the thinker is up to no good.
An example. I used to live in the woods. I often walked down dirt roads with binoculars and a birdwatching book in my pocket. Why? I am a fanatical birdwatcher! There were homes scattered all through these foothill woods, but I never cared much about the people. I was there to look at birds, not people. I did not train my binoculars on a human or a home on even one occasion. I’ve seen plenty of humans and houses. When I am out watching, if you are not a bird, you are “in the way.” You might as well not even be there. The humans and the houses are at best blocking the view of the birds!
A friend later confided in me that a lot of people who lived down those roads really hated me for my birdwatching. Apparently they had no idea that I was birdwatching, probably because they were too stupid to figure out that that is what I was doing. My friend said that many of the residents felt that I was some sort of sexual pervert or criminal who was looking into people’s homes with my binoculars. Why? Just to be a weirdo invading people’s privacy or maybe as a peeper and voyeur looking to get a peek at a naked woman. Funny thing is I never looked inside a home one time. I never trained my binocs on a human even one time.
So you can see that this concretistic, dumb-ass thinking was very injurious to me. It led to me being hated by many of my neighbors for absolutely no reason at all.
If there were analytical thinkers on that road, they would not have thrown so much hate in my direction. Most of them would have probably seen me and come up with different hypotheses about what I was doing. Perhaps some would have entertained the hypotheses that I was a freak or a voyeuristic peeper.
But they would probably entertain other hypotheses too, such as that maybe I was a birdwatcher. For instance, many times I would be looking up in some tree or into some thicket at a bird. There’s no naked humans or humans period up in those trees or those bushes. The analytical thinkers may have tested their hypotheses by carefully observing my behavior. This would be how they tested their various hypotheses. It’s called gathering data. Next they would test the data against the different hypotheses to see which hypothesis explained the data best.  After seeing me mostly looking at trees, forest and thickets where there were no humans and maybe even seeing me reach for my Peterson guide now and again, they would probably conclude that I was a birdwatcher. Then they would shrug their shoulders and walk away.
Because the analytical thinker entertained a variety of hypotheses about what I might be doing, he would be much less likely to conclude that I was some criminal peeper weirdo up to no good.
In addition, concretistic thinking is highly associated with logical fallacies. Logical fallacies are by definition erroneous thinking because they may very well lead to the wrong answer. Logical fallacies are the cause of much misery and even death and injury of other humans. Most of the hate in the world can be traced back to some logical fallacy that some person is engaging in that is driving their hatred of other humans.
Because many higher IQ people prefer analytical thinking to concrete thinking, it is painful to have to be assaulted by tidal waves of concretistic crap and logical fallacy all day long. Pretty soon you start thinking that the world is full of idiots. You get tired of correcting people’s crappy thinking and logical errors and being a scold doesn’t win you many friends anyway. I can barely tolerate a concrete thinker in my presence unless he is in a friendly mood. It is actually physically painful to be around them. We feel it in our bones.
Logical fallacies are by their nature illogical. A synonym for illogical is irrational. if something is irrational and illogical, it doesn’t make sense and it’s usually a lie or a false statement. If you think logically (analytically) it is very trying to stroll through what boils down to an extremely irrational quotidian existence.
You are surrounded all day long by irrational people who can’t think or talk sense. People who can’t think or talk sense are senseless. So analytical thinkers must deal with a daily assault, usually hundreds or thousands of times a day, of utter senselessness. Hence to analytical thinkers, most of the people they meet in their daily existence seem quite senseless. Everywhere they go, senselessness, lies, BS stupid thinking, irrationality, and utter nonsense is punching them in the face. By the end of the day, they’ve been belted in the face by nonsense maybe thousands of times.
You wonder why those 160+ IQ men I discussed in an earlier  post were so disgusted with people that they had become lonely misanthropes who spent most of their time in solitude in small apartments.
There’s your reason.
 
 
 

Intelligence and Income Are Poorly Related, Part 4,860

Terrance: Do you know if the internet has any serious IQ tests? 2 years ago, wondering where I could know mine for sure, you told me that my university has a psychologist who does IQ testing. It turned out it doesn’t, or rather, they don’t want random guys passing the test because it takes 4 hours off their schedule and they’re busy.
But I do agree with those who say, that these tests are a waste of time if nobody, public or private sector, takes them into account. What a worker needs is obedience, not the quickest brains. What a careerist needs is ambition and social skills. What self-employed people need is discipline. If you aren’t any of that, it’s too bad, but I’d rather be one of the three than doing brain virtue signalling the rest of my life with other lonely gifted people.

This is sorry. I thought it was law that grade schools, high schools and universities have to give you a test if you ask for one. On the other hand, if you already got a score, they might not give you another one.
I would say to go to the Psychology Department and ask to be tested. There are quite a few Psychology professors there, and most are either Psychiatrists or Clinical  Psychologists I would imagine. I would think one of them might give you a test just for fun. Plus they sort of feel obligated.
You were absolutely tested in grade or high school. You had to be. It’s usually state law to give all students this test. You have access to your score from whichever school you took the test from. Ask your mother or father. They were definitely told your score.
An IQ test is a test of raw brain speed. This is why it is annoying that so many people insist that IQ tests do not measure intelligence. For Chrissake, what better measure of intelligence is there other than a test of how fast your brain works? Intelligence means the speed of your brain and not much else.
What is stupid about this is that idiots who say that IQ tests don’t mean anything are actually saying that it doesn’t matter how fast your brain works. Faster brains are no more intelligent than slower brains. Very slow brains may be the smartest of all and very fast brains are among the dumbest out there.
What sort of BS sense does that make? The speed of your brain does not matter in terms of job, career, income and so many other things? Most jobs don’t care how fast your brain works? Are you kidding me? That’s a pretty stupid thing to say!
Low IQ people have brains that do not work very fast when they work at all. Average IQ people have brains that work at the average speed for a human being in that country. High IQ people have brains that work fast. As you go up on the scales, you get brains that work faster and faster. Gifted people have brains that work faster than 98% of the population. Geniuses or genius IQ scorers are as common as dirt as there are 3.3 million geniuses. One out of every 100 Americans has a genius IQ. It’s not as impressive as you think. But these people have brains that actually work faster than 99% of the population.  Then you get to Cerebral Aliens who have brains that work faster than 99.9% of the population.
Problem is that when you to right around this point, IQ stops being adaptive and life outcomes in terms of job title, career and income start to decline. With every increased IQ point, these things decline more and more on a direct linear basis. Hence you have the smartest man on Earth, Christopher Langan, dropping out of university, and working at all sorts of working class jobs his whole life such as truck driver, lumberjack and bar bouncer. And you have the 160+ IQ men profiled earlier on this site who are actually so smart that their intelligence is actually a disability as opposed to a gift.
The reason is that as IQ climbs to 145 and above, people start getting weird and out there. With every IQ point rise,  they get stranger and stranger and often more and more introverted, socially awkward, lonely and celibate.
At some point, their IQ is so high that they are nearly nonfunctional and they can function only at a low level in society when they can function at all.
They are getting to the point where they are actually so damn smart that they are pretty much too smart to even function in society!
Sidis is said to be the smartest man who ever lived. He dropped out of university after dazzling professors and students alike at his school. He become very introverted, stayed inside most of the time, had few or no friends. was very lonely, never made a nickel and turned into an early trainspotter, as he become  utterly obsessed with bus schedules, making a vast collection of them and writing up many reports with graphs and figures about the various bus schedules.
The commenter is correct. And many high IQ and very high IQ people lack ambition, discipline, social skills and obedience or any combination of the above.
This is probably the reason you have so many high IQ people who are living at or near the poverty level. I could give you the names of five people right now who have IQ’s of 140-150.
One is an older woman, but she spent her whole life as a housewife. She did work a bit at the end, but she never made much money. I think the best job she had was paralegal and she was actually fired from that job I believe, the only job she was ever fired from. Office politics was the reason.
Three others are in their 50’s with IQ’s ranging from 140-147.
One never made more than $20,000 in their life. They have a variety of degrees – four the last I checked. Like the person below, they have a Masters Degree. This person works very little due to illness and lives off their savings. Prior to becoming ill, they worked or were in school the whole time. They had some decent jobs for a while there, but they really only worked full-time for 10-15 years. The rest of the time, they were in school.
The other worked at working class jobs their whole life and only obtained a university degree very late in life. They now have a BA and an MA. Sadly, very soon after they got that degree, they developed a very bad injury and were disabled. This person is presently collecting Disability, but they worked or were in school most of their life and they are in their 50’s. They never made any real money though.
The other made money at one time, but he is very mentally ill. He has Bipolar Disorder since age 21 or so, and as a result, he is manic most of the time. The drugs do not control his illness well and he is always symptomatic. His mania has been of the psychotic type very early on and if you did not know better, you would think he had schizophrenia. That is because he has delusions that are very schizophrenic-like. For instance, he gets messages from the TV. The weatherman might say, “It is going to rain tomorrow,” and that is actually a secret message telling him to go the store and buy a pack of cigarettes. Which he must do and promptly does.
He has been hospitalized over and over. I recently took a trip with him and it was a nightmare. It’s a good thing the trip ended when it did because if it went on much longer, I would have had to kill the guy. And like many schizophrenics, he never completely abandons his delusions. He still believes that the Objectivists are out to get him and they chase him on the road sometimes. He still believes that he is in fact Jesus Christ. In 1980, the DSM changed and a lot of people who had been called schizophrenic were thrown over to mood disorder, mostly to Bipolar Disorder and Major Depression.
Another was afflicted with Major Depression at a very early age of around 19 or so. They were pulled out of university, but later they went back and got a BA. They soon got on Disability after long being afflicted with Major Depression. They have had the diagnosis ever since and have never worked a real job except for one minor job as a s teenager. They did come out of the illness once when put on a certain drug. The illness lifted and they were able to get a good job at the Welfare Department of a large city. They soon got in trouble at the job and were fired after four months. This of course spun them back into a serious depression that they have been in ever since. Except for four months out of their life, this person has never made any money at all.
All five of these people are very smart, but most of them have hardly made a nickel in their lives. But note that four of them have some sort of injury or illness preventing them from doing much work, and three actually collect Disability. Surely physical and  mental handicaps can seriously get in the way of achievement for very high IQ people. It certainly stands to reason.

Aryan Invasion Again and Why Narcissism Is the Core Indian Personality

Nelly (note fake British female name) an Indian nationalist, writes:

I personally find it so funny that so many people hold onto the Aryan Invasion theory with such tenacity. This theory was made popular by Hitler, which is really funny because he was also the same person who said that the superior people were those with blonde hair and blue eyes, and also went around claiming that Jewish people were evil and should be exterminated.
Today, the majority of people know that those with blonde hair and blue eyes are not superior to any other people nor are Jewish people evil and should be eliminated. That being said, why do so many people still believe the Aryan invasion theory even though it came from a man who did nothing but spread lies in an effort to brainwash people? Why are you guys so selective in what you want to believe as being true? Why does Hitler’s credibility suddenly increase for the entire Aryan theory?
I don’t usually get involved in these debates because I realize that everyone is entitled to his or her opinion and I respect that. But, there is a difference between what is an opinion and what is a fact. And the fact is that the word “Arya” is Sanskrit for “noble.”
Max Mueller, who came up with the idea of two Aryan races, used this discovery as a means of showing the common ancestry between the Indians and Europeans, not as a form of racism (Esleben, 2008, F. Max Müller, Biographies of Words and the Home of the Aryas (1888), Kessinger Publishing reprint, 2004, p.120; Dorothy Matilda Figueira, Aryans, Jews, Brahmins: Theorizing Authority Through Myths of Identity, SUNY Press, 2002, p.45).
There is also a mountain of evidence that debunks the idea of there ever having been an invasion. Archeologists and researchers have never found any indication that an invasion occurred as the skeletons discovered never suggested that an invasion ever occurred  (Gregory L. Possehl, 2002, The Indus Civilization: A Contemporary Perspective, Rowman Altamira, p. 238, ISBN 9780759101722).
The majority of Western scholars don’t refer to it as an “invasion” because they are educated enough to know that it isn’t. Those who still call it an invasion are not viewed as being credible by the rest of Western scholars, but are rather seen as racist. (Witzel, Michael, 2005, “Indocentrism”, in Bryant, Edwin; Patton, Laurie L., The Indo-Aryan Controversy. Evidence and Inference in Indian History (PDF), Routledge).
Again, I’m not expressing any opinions in the last three paragraphs. I’m literally just stating facts. That is, information that has been proven to be true by people who are experts in this topic. So, if you choose to attack me, then I don’t know what to say except go hash it out with the experts who, after years and years of research, came up with these theories instead of me.

My remarks: The Aryan Invasion Theory was not created by Hitler. The Indians called themselves Aryans. They didn’t need Mueller or Hitler to make it up. Iran means “Aryan.”
Almost all Western scholars agree that the theory is true. Only a few crackpots and nuts disagree, and they are very isolated and cannot even publish in peer reviewed journals because their theories are so antiscientific. It is not a fringe theory. It is cutting-edge modern social science.
Further, I believe that there is excellent evidence of an actual Aryan Invasion that resulted in a vicious war that left many dead and entire cities in the Indus Valley razed to the ground.
And you won’t get called racist for calling it the Aryan Invasion Theory either. You might be called that by some idiot Indian, but who cares what Indians think about this or much of anything really?
This response is also interesting.
First of all, in order to show how well read they are, this Indian nationalist peppers her comment with a lot of nice references. I admit that the references are nicely done, and I commend the commenter for her scholarship. However, I must painfully point out to this apparently blind commenter that every single one of those quotes that she quoted actually supports the Aryan Invasion Theory instead of opposing it. So her references do not support her thesis; instead they disprove it!
I see so many Indian nationalists and Hindutvadis come here adopting European-sounding names, both first names and surnames.
We even had an extreme Indian nationalist here posting under “Snow is fun.” Snow is white. It’s white and cold, and there’s not much of it in most of inhabited India. To me, giving himself that name meant that he secretly wanted to be Scandinavian. And in fact, he was an Indian expat posting from Sweden.
Others post under names like “Arya” and then proceed to rip the Aryan invasion theory to shreds. And note how many of the wildest Indian nationalists have long bailed out of Shithole India for the hated White Man’s Land, where they paradoxically live so much better than they do in glorious Bharat Mata.
They hate Whites, but they disguise their identities under White first names and last names.
They hate Whites and consider them inferior to superior Indians, yet they left superior India for inferior White man land where they somehow live much better than in Mother India.
They call themselves Arya yet viciously attack the Aryan Invasion Theory.
They hate Whites but post from Sweden.
They hate Whites but call themselves Arya.
They hate Whites but come from a society that worships White skin like a God.
They hate Whites but give themselves names describing white things like snow that are only found in cold climates were Whites are common.
They hate Whites but call themselves “Snow is fun,” which to me means “I love Whiteness.”
In other words, almost all of these Indian nationalists are absolutely crazy. The cognitive dissonance here would deafen you.
Furthermore, obvious psychological complexes such as inferiority complex, envy, reaction formation, projection, denial, narcissism, false confidence, etc. are painfully evident here. The “Indian complex” seems to be characterized by hatred and envy for their “inferiors” who they secretly ape, emulate and live among. The painful recognition that their “inferiors” are actually superior to their falsely “superior” selves is blatantly on display.
Hatred, envy, false and fragile overconfidence, an inferiority complex and especially the subconscious knowledge that their “inferior” rival is actually better than their “superior” selves and the resulting shame and rage that this engenders is almost a textbook definition of the narcissist.
I suggest that narcissism is the base personality of many Indians, especially the nationalists, ultranationalists and Hindutvadis.

In Praise of Eccentricity

Found on the Net:

Weeks’ aim is to encourage the acceptance and cultivation of eccentricity in society, he said, and where necessary, he also hopes to familiarize mental health workers with eccentricity as a condition distinct from mental illness. This new understanding, he believes, will prevent patients from being wrongfully committed to mental hospitals when they are simply eccentric (an infrequent but not unheard-of scenario, Weeks said).
While eccentrics may exhibit one or two symptoms that are consistent with mental illness, they retain a hold on reality and have insight into their own behavior, he said. The psychologist has identified 20 traits indicating that a person may be eccentric.

A much-needed turnaround. Ever read the psychiatric literature, especially the older stuff from say the 1930’s? I am reading some right now. Check out the case studies. Damn those guys had some rigid ideas about how a healthy person should live their life. I think the mental health field needs to get away from microscopically examining everyone to look for hidden signs of maladaptive or unhealthy behavior, poor adjustment, oddness, or just not doing what you’re supposed to do, whatever the Hell that might be.
We should be looking at people for signs of healthy and adaptive behavior, good adjustment at least in some areas and and overall functionality. If can function pretty well, you can’t be all that nuts. Wouldn’t that be cool? Instead of getting out the DSM whenever anyone shows up, we should have a Mental Health Manual where we go down and check lists of healthy and adaptive behaviors, decent adjustment and especially ability to function decently in society. We could give people mental health diagnoses instead of mental illness diagnoses. That would be so boss!
Eccentricity means different things. If a Normie ever calls you eccentric, watch out. They will say it as they shake their head fatalistically or frown dismissively.
They mean you are nuts, and they think that sucks. And that you suck, sort of.
I am not sure if they mean you are really nuts. Normies aren’t all idiots. Normies are assholes, but they’re not necessarily dumb. They might mean that you are not nuts enough to be seriously crazy, and you might still be able to function pretty well in some areas, but you’re definitely not normal at all. You’re weird. You’re odd. You’re strange. And there’s nothing a Normie hates worse.
If any Normie ever insults you like that, just end the damn friendship right there. I am serious. They’re never going to like you. Not ever. It’s dead, Jim. Sure, you can stay friends with them, but they will be frenemies, and the friendship will suck. I have had scores of sucky friendships. The Hell with it. I’d rather be alone. At least when I’m alone, I’m hanging around with someone who likes me.
There are other people who are ok with eccentricity, and they may even cultivate it themselves. I have had some girlfriends tell me that I’m eccentric, but they were crazy in love with me at the time, so it wasn’t an insult. Usually someone who doesn’t mind your eccentricity is at least a little that way themselves. They are often in the arts somehow – artists, writers, dancers, musicians, actors – if only as fans, hangers on or hobbyists. In the arts, eccentricity is often a cultivated and desired state. When an artist calls you eccentric, that’s probably a compliment!
Anyway, I would like to see more tolerance for eccentricity in society and I hope people would quit calling eccentrics crazy. I know they won’t. but one can always hope. And of course clinicians should learn what’s non-pathological eccentricity and what’s pathological mental disorder. And if you’re eccentric, and you can’t seem to figure out how to not be eccentric no matter how hard you try (my boat), you really need to embrace it and quit beating yourself up. Quit calling yourself weird, nuts, crazy, strange, odd or disturbed. You’re none of those things. Accept your eccentricity as you accept any other things about yourself and embrace and incorporate it into your identity in a positive way.

Another Way of Looking at IQ: Extra-IQ Factors

RL: Incidentally, two of the brightest commenters on my blog had IQ’s of 113 and 117. The 117 IQ guy was fantastic at philosophy and other forms of abstract thinking. The other fellow was into genetics and anthropology, but he thought in much the same way. A few of these types are so bright that you almost think that their score is wrong. I am not sure what is going on except maybe they are working their brains extra hard, or they have filled their brains up with all sorts of goodies.
Oops I did it again: Myers-Briggs (Jungian) type, life experiences, economic status, degree of neuroticism (“Work their wits hard”), the brain faculty we call “sensitivity”, the other we call “fantasy”, all are factors.

This is so correct. Jim Flynn wrote a book the premise of which was something like “factors above and beyond IQ.” He showed how 1st and 2nd Generation Northeast Asians in the US (mostly Japanese and Chinese) were often working at jobs up that usually required IQ’s 20 points above their level. In other words, a 100 IQ Japanese-American would be functioning on the job at the same level as a typical 120 IQ ordinary American. In other words, the NE Asians might have an IQ of 100, but on his on the job performance was the same as someone with a 120 IQ.
Flynn called these “extra-IQ factors.” In other words, on the job, IQ isn’t everything. I forget what the extra-IQ factors were but they seemed to be things like punctuality, responsibility, resilience, psychological stability, regular attendance, studiousness, reliability, seriousness, conscientiousness, hard working nature, and stick-to-it-iveness or what some are now calling “grit” which boils down to “if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again,” or continuing to hammer away at a problem even after repeated failure – not giving up.
So you see there are personality factors that you can add to your IQ score so you perform at a higher level than your IQ would predict.
I was thinking of this in terms of Blacks, that maybe Blacks could cultivate some extra-IQ factors that would allow them to overcome some of their disadvantage due to lower average IQ. If an 85 IQ Black person could function on the job at the same level as we expect a 105 IQ person to perform at, I think the position of Blacks in the US could improve a lot. Unfortunately the wort of things that were helping the NE Asians were sort of “nerd factors, square factors, uptight factors” that Blacks just don’t seem to do well in, mostly because they look down on this sort of excessive seriousness.
Nevertheless, I am open to the idea of harnessing extra-IQ factors in Blacks to help them to perform better in school and work. Harnessing what seems to be their innate social skills and extroversion might be one of these things.
Myers-Briggs or Jungian personality type: Yes, certain personality types might help one perform above their IQ level.
Life experiences: Correct. Certain types of life experiences and lessons learned and skills gained from them could help push you above your IQ level.
Economic status: Yes, a higher economic status might help you to perform above your IQ level.
Degree of neuroticism or working their wits hard: Correct. Someone who pushes their brain into overdrive and characteristically pushes their mind and intellect to its limits in an almost challenge-testing near-athletic competitive manner could surely perform above their IQ level. I think I have seen some examples of this in my life.
Sensitivity as a brain factor: I could see how this would help you perform above your IQ level, but I am wondering just what this factor is.
Fantasy as a brain factor: If this means something like creativeness or open mindedness or the tendency to think outside the box, I could see how this would help you.

Is There Such a Thing as Very High IQ Behavior?

Rowlii writes:

Thanks for your answer. Is there a “High IQ” behaviour?

Sort of, but not really. My mother and and all of my siblings have very high IQ’s (140+), and we are all quite different. However, three of us are quite shy and are probably introverts. The other one is more introverted than he lets on.
It is hard for me to answer this question because I have not known the IQ’s of most of the people I have known in my life. I know the IQ’s of my family members, but I never learned the IQ’s of many of my friends or even the vast majority of my girlfriends. This is not to mention the more casual acquaintances I have run into. So I have only really known maybe ~13 people in my whole life who had very high IQ’s. Obviously I have run into a lot more high IQ people than that, but in the course of life, you usually never learn the IQ’s of most of the people you meet and hang out with.
Of those 13 people, they were sometimes a bit different from each other. I wish I could say that there was something stringing them together, but I cannot.
It also depends on what you mean by high IQ. Very high IQ is usually defined as 140+ (top 1%). High IQ might be defined as 130+ (top 3.5%) or maybe even lower. It depends on where you set the bar.
Some of us are a lot more extroverted than others. I am shocked at how extroverted many very high IQ women are. Very high IQ men tend not to be so extroverted, but some of them are quite capable extroverts. Many seem quite normal, even shockingly normal. One of the sanest men I have ever met had an IQ of 160. He is also the highest IQ person that I have ever known. On the other hand, there also seems to be a tendency towards mental illness, in particular depression and manic depression. Somehow there is a connection between very high IQ and mood disorders.
I do not know any very high IQ people who have Aspergers. This is largely a myth. We are a lot better at socializing than you might think. I don’t know any very high IQ people who are social retards. I know some who are assholes, but social retards, no. Social skills and figuring your way around human interaction is an intellectual skill, and it can be learned. Most of the very high IQ people I have known seem to have learned that skill quite well.
There are a lot of questions along these lines on Quora under the IQ topic, and a lot of very high IQ people are answering those questions. The questions are along the lines of “What is it like to have an IQ of 140/150?”, etc. Then a lot of very high IQ people answer the questions. People who are interested in the topic may want to head over there are read what those people say. There are of very smart, interesting, wise and eloquent people writing over there, and you can learn quite a few things from the handy to the esoteric.
One of the answers that you see over and over is that very high IQ people say they see patterns everywhere. Many say that they are always observing all the time and looking for underlying patterns in everything they see and everywhere they go. They’re always trying to put it all together, see the big picture, or view the world in a holistic way.
To answer a question in a holistic way is to see things in a larger pattern of the whole question, so to speak, taking into account everything. It’s another way of saying seeing the whole picture. We try not see the trees and miss the forest, if you catch my drift. Sure, we look at individual trees and groups of trees and even try to figure out what they mean or relationships between them, but at the end of the day, we still want to put all of those individual trees together into some sort of a forest.
I would say that very high IQ people are a lot smarter than you think they are. You might think that they are out to lunch, but most of them are very much on the ball. I had a girlfriend with an IQ of 140, and she immediately got all of my jokes and funny little comments. It was like instantly, bam! Also I did not have to explain many things to her. She just got most things BOOM like that as fast as you could blink your eyes.
I got to know a woman with a 156 IQ recently, and she was fast as lightning. She understood everything you said and was also very curious. If she didn’t understand anything you were saying, she would ask you to explain it. Then I would explain it to her and even if it was something that she did not know much about, and when I explained it to her, she caught on very fast.
There was none of this, “I don’t know what you are talking about.” One thing that amazed me about her was how I could be talking about a subject that she obviously knew little about, and she would ask me to explain the concept. And she would pick up this previously unknown concept very quickly, faster than almost anyone I have met. When I was talking with her it was just BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM like that.
I like to play games with speech and toss in esoteric comments, analogies, references to movies, books, songs, famous people and events, sayings, famous lines and riddles. A lot of these might be odd little puns of worldplay. If you have ever read James Joyce, I am doing something like that, just playing games with language and also with knowledge. A lot of the time people don’t have the faintest idea what I am doing, so I try not to do this too much, but when I am on the ball, I can do this like crazy.
Most people think I am insane or very weird but some smart people can catch all the little jokes and references. I am not crazy at all. I am talking like that on purpose.
Sometimes I speak on multiple levels. I might say something easily understandable to anyone, but if you listen closely I am also throwing in things on a higher level so the message really has two levels, a simple lower level with the basic meaning and a higher level where I am often playing games.
I will throw in some line out of a book, a reference to an actor or a band or this or that in there. Most people don’t get the weird little word games, but it doesn’t matter because there is a basic message on the lower level in there that can be easily read and comprehended and the word games don’t mean anything anyway as I am just playing games with language and knowledge. It all depends on which levels you want to read the speech on.
Some very high IQ people are very fast. I have been told that I am fast too. Some people say that sometimes I have these funny little micro-movements around my face, mostly around my eyes but sometimes in my mouth too. One  person called them micro-emotions or micro-reactions. They say it doesn’t really look nervous but instead it almost looks there’s a fast computer in back of my face and all those little movements are the thing processing data.
A lot of the time I answer a question almost as soon as it has been asked. Sometimes I even start to answer it or I start nodding my head halfway through the sentence because I already know what the person is going to say in the rest of the sentence. Sometimes I finish people’s sentences for them.
Nothing much gets past me. I hear everything you say, and I am probably watching everything you do. I’m usually not confused. Life is not very confusing. This can work well for social skills because if you get that supercomputer working socially, you can respond to all of the little subtle changes in the conversation as it slowly changes as you are engaging in it.
Conversations are changing all the time, and you are supposed to be reacting to most everything the other person is saying or doing. They make a little movement, and you try to interpret and make some movement back. You respond emotionally to their remarks and even to their little micro-emotional changes. In a good, on the ball conservation there might be maybe 10 or more reactions and counter-reactions in a minute.
I am not sure if this is really a good thing because instead of seeing me as some with-it super smart social genius or saying,”Wow look at that guy, he seems like he has a Cray computer in back of his face – he’s so fast,” instead most people seem to think that I am weird. I am not sure why that is. Sometimes I think they are on a different wavelength than I am. I think they just don’t get it. They don’t get me.
A lot of very high IQ people will tell you that they feel that they are misunderstood. People misjudge them, misunderstand what they are saying, and either don’t understand them or read their comments in a completely different way than how they were intended. They read funny and sometimes false motives into our speech and behaviors that we did not intend to put out. This is because they are not understanding what we are trying to convey with our speech and behaviors. Once again, I think most people are just on some other wavelength than people like me and that’s why they seem to misunderstand us so much.
Very high IQ people will often say that they are good at making decisions and that they tend to make intelligent decisions because they weigh all of the possible answers to the question very carefully. On the other hand, I know some very high IQ people who live their lives idiotically and make the stupidest decisions. But that’s not because they are stupid, that’s more because of personality issues, in particularly massive psychological defenses that get in the way of rational behavior.
Just because you have a very high IQ is not guarantee against being crazy or building crazy, disordered and excessive defense systems that lead to characterological problems. Most of the poor life decisions I see very high IQ people making are not due to doing dumb things but instead there is some mental disorder going on there that is messing up their behavior.  Very high IQ people can definitely have characterological problems where their defensive structures have gotten so bizarre and excessive that they start to cause a lot of crazy and irrational behaviors.
I am not sure about people from 130-139 (high IQ or near genius), but I think they function better than a lot of us very high IQ types. With us very high IQ types, our IQ’s are so high that they are starting to get in the way of our lives, and they might even be making us strange or mentally disordered. The high IQ type is very, very smart, but an IQ in the 130’s is not going to have that correlation with mental illness and weirdness that you start seeing in some people above 140.
I have seen people in the 130’s who were very smart, and they were also superb social actors, very extroverted, etc. I spent a lot of time with two men. One had an IQ of 139, and another had a 135 IQ. It would be quite hard to say that I was smarter than either of them, and they were both whip-fast sharp, especially the 139 IQ guy, who is a relative. He is just BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM. He has also been an alcoholic for decades which has wrecked his life, but he is still whip-fast smart despite the decades of booze.
Once you get into the high IQ range (130-150), I don’t see a lot of differences between me and someone with an IQ of say 129-139. They seem like they are about as smart as I am. Past a certain point, I do not think the scores mean all that much. You end up with really smart people and there’s probably not a lot of observable difference between really smart people even if one is smarter than the other. You’re probably not going to be able to see how the higher IQ person is smarter because the differences all seem to wash out at high IQ levels.
Frankly I do not think that most of you want to be as smart as I am. Yes, there is huge upside, but there is also a massive downside at least for me. The downside is probably avoidable, but you still might get it. Sometimes I think it is better not to be this smart. I am so smart that it almost gets in the way of life, and most of you might not want to live like that.

Why the Internet Sucks

I have been called a lot of things in life, but there are some things that no one ever calls me because they are just ridiculous as insults to anyone who knows anything about me.

However, there are attacks on me that have only been made by morons on the Internet.

In real life, no one has ever done any of these things, not even once:

Implied that I can’t get laid or that I am unattractive to women or that I am some sort of a neckbeard incel nerd who can’t get laid with God’s help. People usually assume the opposite. They meet me and pretty quickly, without even knowing anything about me, start laughing and say things like, “How many girlfriends do you have? Three?” It’s relatively common for women to meet me and before they know much of anything about me, they say things like, “I don’t trust you. You seem like a player or a playboy or a guy who goes out with lots of women. I want a man who is faithful.”

Stated or implied that I am not attractive, homely or ugly in any way, shape or form. Some women have said I am too skinny, though.

Stated or implied that I am not every smart or that I am stupid in any way. Even my worst enemies have conceded that I am smart as Hell. In fact, no one has ever even told me that they are smarter than I am. Obviously lots of people will never comment on your intelligence, but some will. Most everyone who has ever commented on my intelligence has said that not only am I smart, but I am real,real, real smart. One man told me, “You are the smartest person I know, and I know a lot of really smart people, like physicians and attorneys. And you are smarter than all of them.”

Of course I do not go around telling people my IQ score all the time, but at times, the subject has come up. I know how to bring it up in such as a way so that almost no one ever gets offended and in real life, few if any people got offended when I bring it up.

Usually someone will say, “Good God you are smart. Jesus Christ!” And then I will act very shy and embarassed (this is a social skill called “false modesty”), and I say quietly,”Yes, I know I am smart. I’ve seen my IQ score.” They often look intrigued or curious and and say, “What is it?” Then I tell them, but once again I say it in a very shy way as if I am embarassed to tell anyone (the complete opposite of being showoff braggart). The response is almost always positive.

Implied or stated that I can’t write or can’t write well. A lot of people in real life have not read my writing, granted, but those that have always say something along the lines of, “Boy you sure are a good writer.” Some even say, “You are a great writer!” I have had women fall in love with simply because they think I am a great writer. Of course people have objected to the things I write about, but that’s not the same as saying you cannot write.

I did take a Creative Writing class once, and I wrote a chapter of a novel that never got finished. There was me and one other guy and a woman who could really write well. The others, I hate to say it, were just not that good.

They passed out my stuff and they had a week to read it. They came back, and everyone said it was really good, but some thought it was weird or bizarre or unsettling, or they said they didn’t understand what I was talking about. The one guy who was one of the three good writers completely ripped my chapter apart, but it was obvious that he was jealous and felt threatened. Plus he didn’t like my style. I just chalked it up to jealousy.

No one in real life has ever said that I am a social retard or socially inept or have poor social skills, not even one time. A lot of people think I am outrageous and maybe weird or offensive, but no one has ever implied that I am some autist social clod. The only people who have ever said this were on the Internet. However, quite a few people have said that I am weird, odd, strange, bizarre, eccentric, etc., but that’s not the same thing. I am just unconventional. Most of it is deliberate, and it’s just my way or telling society to go to Hell.

How on Earth you can possibly judge someone’s social skills by their prose is beyond me. I work in mental health, and I assure that you I can learn nothing about a client’s social skills by reading his prose. In fact, I cannot tell much of anything at all about a client by reading their prose. I certainly cannot diagnose any mental illness based on the way that they write. How can you possibly determine anything whatsoever about a person psychologically by reading their prose? It’s sheer idiocy.

The only people in life who ever implied I am ugly or unattractive were on the Internet. Not one person has ever said that to me in real life, not even one time; in fact, everyone who has commented has said the complete opposite.

The only people who ever told me I can’t write were on the Net. No one in real life has ever said that to me; in fact, they usually say the opposite.

The only people who ever told me I am not attractive to women, can’t get a woman, am a virgin or an incel or a neckbeard, or that I can’t get laid were on the Net. No one in real life ever implied or said that even once; in fact they generally say the exact opposite.

The only people who ever told me that I am dumb, not very smart or not as smart as I say I am or that I could not be as smart as my IQ score were on the Net. In real life, no one has ever said anything like that, and in fact, they almost always say the complete opposite.

The only people who ever said I can’t get a woman, am lousy with women, am an incel or a neckbeard were on the Net. No one has ever said any such thing in real life; in fact, they generally say the exact opposite.

You might counter that people in real life are being too kind to tell me the truth that I am obviously ugly, a socially retarded autist, dumb or not as smart as I say I am, a lousy writer, a neckbeard incel who couldn’t get laid with God’s help.

But this doesn’t make sense because I have had so many enemies that you would not believe it. Some of my enemies have threatened to kill me, and they have made a number of other threats.

In fact, three or four of my enemies actually tried to murder me and it turned into a kill or be killed scenario like, “Look, someone is going to get killed here and it’s either him or me. I say it’s him that’s going to get killed.” I can’t discuss the outcomes of these homicidal altercations, but I assure you that for at least one of my enemies, it was very bad indeed. At the very least, he got a number of broken bones. I don’t know the actual results of my attack or even whether I killed him or not because I didn’t stick around long enough to find out.

My enemies have told me that they are going to destroy my life in all these different ways. My enemies have called me every insult you could ever think of, but when they insult me personally, it’s never on any of the bases above. Even my worst enemies conceded that I am goodlooking, very smart, good socially, a good writer and good with women.

Since they have called me just about everything else you can call a man, I would assume if there was any truth to that stuff, they would have called me that. Instead, in real life, people have insulted me the same way that any normal human insults anyone.

When sane people insult someone, they look for something that is sort of true about the person and then hammer away at that. They go straight for the person’s Achilles Heels or they bring up an obvious flaw that the person has. That’s why we call it “hitting a raw nerve.”

You don’t attack a beautiful person by calling them ugly. People would think you were nuts. You don’t attack a smart person by calling them stupid. People would think you were an idiot.

For an insult to work in real life, there has to be at least the perception that there is a certain amount of truth there. Of course, I have been called all sorry of names and attacked in all sorts of ways, but generally the attacks were on the sort that “hit a raw nerve” in that, I hate to say it, but there was a certain amount of truth to the charge or at the very least you could see why someone would say that about me.

I have been told that people’s true personalities come out on the Net. That is a terrifying statement because it means that countless people are absolutely worthless garbage who don’t even deserve to live. In fact, I would say they were not even human.

The most evil people I have ever met in my entire life were mostly on the Net, and I’ve met some really bad people in real life.

Alpha and Beta Males and Why Women Blame Men

The guys who use girls for sex are the Alpha males

who are either:

1) Alpha males with the dark triad of mild sociopathy, narcissism and Machiavellianism, so it’s in his nature to be confident, charismatic, dominant, and get what he wants – sex

or

2) Alpha males who are simply attractive men with generally good faces and are generally muscular and over 6′ tall. So in this sense, even if he doesn’t have the Alpha personality, he still ends up using women for sex simply because women throw themselves at him and he doesn’t actively manipulate them into bed. This Alpha male simply has a ton of opportunity for poon and doesn’t have the self restraint to say no (granted it’s tough to say no).

So even if he’s a nice guy, he obviously can’t commit to the 3-10 or so girls a week that throw themselves at him, so girls get hurt. It’s worth noting that in this instance of the attractive Alpha, the man is not manipulating women to have sex with him. The women are voluntarily sleeping with him and pursuing him hungrily simply because he is attractive and tall.

The women are being shamelessly shallow in this instance, and it is nobody’s fault but their own when they get hurt. 90% of women cannot throw themselves at the top 10% of attractive men and expect them to commit to all of them.

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On the other hand, Beta males – guys who are less attractive, less charismatic/dominant or don’t have the dark triad, have a harder time getting females. So they learn to hold onto one woman since they don’t get individual women that often. These guys do treat women well. Women sleep with the Alphas casually, not the Betas. So the claim that Beta males use her for sex is ridiculous. The guys who do want relationships are not users of sex. Nope, nope, and nope. Sorry ladies.

However, women use rationalizations to convince themselves of why the nice guy Beta male is somehow not a good guy. Whereas the Alpha actually wants to use her, and the woman lies to herself pretending, “Oh he’s probably a good guy deep down…” because she really badly wants the Alpha in the most carnal of ways.

The Beta male shows clear signs of loyalty, love, honesty, and she convinces herself he must be a creeper if he’s too affectionate or otherwise that he must “secretly be a player/jerk” even if he’s shown absolutely no reason for her to logically think that.

In fact women use very specific word choices to rationalize men they find attractive/Alpha vs. men they find unattractive/Beta. Even if the two men have exactly the same personality and behave in exactly the same way, if one guy is uglier or more of a Beta in general, women will call them this vs that.

Hot/alpha guys are “confident.”

Ugly/beta guys are “cocky.”

Hot/alpha guys are “intelligent, learned, cultured.”

Ugly/beta guys are “nerds, pompous, dorks.”

Hot/alpha guys are “funny, witty.”

Ugly/beta guys are “overcompensating, annoying, weird.”

Hot/alpha guys are “sexy and charming” when they make a move.

Ugly/beta guys are “creepy and stalkerish” if they make a move in the exact same way.

NOTE: By ugly I mean having an unattractive face or being short. Short oftentimes will do it right there. Very ugly or fat are often instant DQ’s. As a side note, it’s funny how women flip out about men being shallow regarding fat women, but women are also shallow about fat men. They say “I need a fit man who can protect me.” Uh, protect you from what? We live in a civilized society with advanced weapons a fat person can still use.

And women DQ and judge short men too.

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When other girls sleep with hot/Alpha guys and get used, they do not want to blame the Alpha male specifically. To do so would mean she would have to admit to herself that her choice in men was bad and that she should lower her physical or dominance/Alpha standards to have a chance at keeping a man. Women don’t wanna do that. Not. One. Bit.

So what do they do? Instead, they like to lump all men together. And since women are like dogs in the sense that they naturally attack the weakest members of a tribe, women instead choose to lash out and take all their anger and frustration out on the weak, nice, passive men who can’t defend themselves, the Beta males. The Beta males get blamed for everything.

Even though the Betas wouldn’t dream of using a woman for sex and would love nothing more than to cuddle and love one woman, women still harshly judge the Betas. Women also judge the Betas because it makes them feel less guilty for rejecting them. Women don’t like to feel shallow and mean, so  instead they will deflect the blame onto the Beta even though the Beta has done nothing wrong.

They will use what Alphas do as an “excuse” to reject the Betas. Women use Beta males for emotional support, attention, and money. In essence, just like alphas use women for sex, women in turn virtually rape the Beta males by stealing/manipulating their time, attention, money and resources.

Ultimately, the problem is with women because women are responsible for their own life and sexual choices. Women want equality, don’t they? Women want equal wages, don’t they? Well then, they need to accept responsibility for their bodies and stop blaming men for who women choose to have sex with.

What Attracts Women

I will go through these one by one here:

  1. Hypergamy
  2. Women’s dishonesty about what they’re attracted to being biologically hardwired because of them wanting one man to beta provide and another man to fuck her.
  3. Looks = Personality. Your personality and behavior are largely dictated by uncontrollable factors (how people reacted to you during upbringing, hormonal profile during puberty, your background, etc.).
  4. Social life and hence status being extremely affected by the way one looks.
  5. Men being more productive and contributing more to society and to general development throughout history, and how marriage and monogamy in the old days was a way to control and make sure that every man got his needs met and hence contributed to society. Basically one can easily conclude that female to male choice-based mating selection is very bad for society overall.

Let’s start with 1 first.

Hypergamy

Yep, females are hypergamous by nature. The Blue Pillers, feminists, male feminists, etc. are absolutely furious about this notion. They say it’s all a great big lie. Are they really that clueless?

Female hypergamy is real. It is also a big problem if unleashed. In order to keep it at least manageable (because you can never get rid of it altogether), institutions such as marriage with enforced monogamy are devised so you can have a halfway civilized society and restrain female hypergamy significantly.

Women’s dishonesty about what they’re attracted to being biologically hardwired because of them wanting one man to beta provide and another man to fuck her.

Yep. Women lie about what they want. They lie about what turns them on. They lie about a thousand things. Why they lie so much, I have no idea, but I suspect that women don’t even know what they want or what turns them on either.

I do not agree with women wanting one man to be a Beta provider and another to provide stud service. Ideally, I think most women would like to marry Chad, tame him so he’s monogamous, and hopefully have Monogamous Chad Dream Man be a great provider for her so she doesn’t need to settle with a Beta as a provider.

You will notice that women’s romance novels are typically about this totally unrealistic dream man who is this hunky male model stud who is a man’s man, masculine as can be but at the same time sensitive, loving, and kind, who has women after him all the time but settles down with the heroine after she tames him.

My mother notes that the male heroes of romance novels are men that more or less do not even exist in real life. So women’s dream men are so fantastical that they probably don’t even exist. They’re pining for nonexistent entities!

The problem that Alphas are often lousy providers. Many Alphas are not employed. A lot of others work in the criminal economy, often selling drugs, etc. A surprising number work at low paying jobs and continue to live in cheap apartments and drive old cars into middle age. A stunning number of Alphas are in jails and prisons. Many Alphas spend most of their life essentially living off women in exchange for providing what boils down to gigolo service.

Even if a woman could pin Chad into a long term relationship or marriage, Chad makes a lousy boyfriend and an even lousier husband. He tends to be an incorrigible cheater, among other things. He is at least a little bit narcissistic/sociopathic, he is typically vain, conceited, and egotistical and is often rather short on empathy. In other words, Chad is an asshole.

So women don’t need a Beta provider. They need a provider, period. Chad would be the #1 pick of course, but he’s not available, so she settles for Mr. Beta with the good job as a provider. But now she still needs Chad for sex. What’s a lady to do?

Looks = Personality, your personality and behavior are largely dictated by uncontrollable factors (how people reacted to you during upbringing, hormonal profile during puberty, your background etc).

This is very sad, but there is probably a lot to it. I do not think we are doomed by what happened to us in junior and senior high school, but those experiences are so important that it is hard to overlook them. While no one has a set in stone lousy personality, we all have a certain personality type, and it is set by the end of adolescence.

There is a healthy and unhealthy side of each personality type. Even the Sociopath has a healthy mirror image called Aggressive Personality. The Borderline has Sensitive Personality. The Dependent has Loyal Personality. The Narcissist has Confident Personality. And so on.

A man with good looks often has so many great experiences during these formative years that he ends up with a nice personality pretty much locked in place by the time adolescence is over. The man who had a rocky road all through middle and late school years has a huge hurdle to overcome in transcending these traumas and becoming healthy.

Social life and hence status being extremely affected by the way one looks.

This is sad as Hell too, but there is probably a lot to it. People need to consider that when they see people with great/poor social skills and high/low status that quite a bit of how high someone scores on those variables may be due to uncontrollable factors like looks.

Men being much more productive and contributing much more to society and to general development throughout history, and how marriage and monogamy in the old days was a way to control and make sure that every man got his needs met and hence contributed to society. Basically one can easily conclude that female to male choice based mating selection is very bad for society overall.

Women are not going to like this one. But I would agree that men create civilization. There have been periods in history when most of the men left, often to wars, and the society was left with mostly women to run the show. Things fell apart pretty quickly.

Women simply can’t create or run civilizations. They need men to do that for them. Women can help the men run things, but they can’t do it alone. This is quite all right. Women can’t do everything. The sexes tend to need each other.

But since civilizations needed men to create them in the first place and then to run them, marriage and monogamy was a way to control society such that most if not all men got their basic needs met. Once their basic needs were met, these men would be able to do a good job contributing to society. Bottom line is a totally free market in marriage where women’s choices set the tone is probably going to cause all sorts of societal problems, like maybe mass shootings for one.

What Women Look for in a Man

Juliette writes:

Sadly, other guys at the college took what I believe to be the “alpha” approach (the anecdotes I could bring out are copious), and it had nothing to do with how “attractive” the guy was.Women look for more in a guy than just physical attractiveness. I daresay personality and intellectual prowess as well as economic factors come into play, but that’s just what I’ve observed…

Alpha has nothing to do with coming onto women everywhere you see them and pissing a lot of them off. Most of the Alphas I have known surely did not do that. If those guys with their lame lines were really Alpha, they would not have turned her off. If a real Alpha would have approached her, she would probably be flattered. The fact that their lines went over like lead balloons implies that these guys were not Alpha at all.

Alpha, Beta and Omega boil down to this:

Alpha: Attractive to most of the females most of the time. No more than 20% of population. Studies on dating sites have shown that 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the men. It is these 20% that they are chasing. 80% or almost all of the women are chasing the very best men, the 20% who are Alphas. Alpha fucks and…

Beta: Attractive to some of the women some of the time. Your average, regular, everyday guy. Could be your father, brother, cousin or uncle. 65% of the population. On dating sites, 80% of the men (the Betas and Omegas) are left chasing 20% of the women, probably the bottom 20%. …Beta bucks.

Omega: Attractive to almost none of the women almost all of the time. Nobody or almost nobody wants these men. There is something about them that turns off almost all women, but it’s often not clear what it is. The incels, rejects, etc.

Women care about looks just as much as men do if not more. Good-looking men can do so well with women that you would not even believe it. Sure, maybe some women don’t care about looks, but most do.

This is what women want:

1. A good-looking to very goodlooking guy (essential),
2. Game or some attractive type of personality (because just looks won’t cut it).
3. Status, power, money or fame. Any one of these added to the first two would be excellent.

What is Game?

Game is simply that style that you utilize in order to attract women.

If you’re not actively trying to attract women, you’re not running any sort of Game. Men with money are often running Money Game. There’s probably even Power Game, Status Game and Fame Game. It’s not necessarily phony or fake or anything like that.

A group of women are at a table whispering, “Wow! Look at him! Isn’t he sexy? He’s sexy as Hell, isn’t he?” What they are saying is that he has good to great Game. With this man, being sexy is more than just having pretty face. He also has Game, which is the sum total of all parts of himself other than sheer looks that make him sexy or attractive to women. Game isn’t necessarily dishonest at all. If you are very attractive to women despite being a very honest fellow, then you have great Game. Everyone thinks Game is about fakery, lines, and manipulation, but that’s not necessarily true at all.

A man with zero Game simply has no ability to attract women at all. He can’t be sexy no matter how hard he tries for some reason.

Talking about personality, a woman would want a guy with possibly 3 of the above, and then it sure would be great if he had a great personality and even intelligence. But a “great personality” is really probably just part of great Game because Game ideally is simply your basic personality and nothing else.

Some women demand brains. I know a woman with a 156 IQ and she demands a high-IQ man or she would certainly prefer one.

Money would sure help, but it’s not essential. I can’t even pay my bills and I still get beautiful women.

Narcissism As Lay Betting

When you bet on the body, you bet on a losing horse.
– Buddhist saying

Unlike lay betting though, this sort of bet can never win. The aging narcissist can only lose. This is why while narcissism is relatively normal (unfortunately) in many non-pathological people up until age ~40, after age, narcissism is almost always a sign of serious pathology. This is because in addition to the wear and tear on the body factor, by the time they hit 40, most folks, no matter how successful, have already had about a million really bad things happen to them. At about the 500,000th massive failure you start to figure that maybe your shit might smell bad after all. In short, even most attorneys, physicians and such are pretty humbled by the time they hit middle age.
Yet the narcissist carries on just the same. It’s hard to explain away a million crashes, but the narcissist has his bag of tricks. The river in Egypt says they never happened in the first place or explains losses away as victories. One thing humans excel at is something called “blaming other people.” I know folks deep in middle age who have been doing this their whole lives. I assume they will be cursing the enemies and saboteurs on their deathbed. It’s a Hell of a way to live.
After age 40, narcissism becomes more precarious in the individual because it is increasingly obvious what a gigantic lie it is. Therefore we will see the aging narcissist develop more pathology to make sense of a philosophy that is so glaringly false. Hell, the own mirror punches him in the face every day. How can you ignore that?
Also the narcissistic structure will tend to break down more as the person ages. Narcissism is always built on a house of cards. It looks like the best skyscraper in town, but really there’s no scaffolding to hold it up. At the root of much narcissism is profound self-hatred. The deeper the self-contempt, the greater the grandiose projection needed to balance it out and arrive at the steady state we all want.
People who know narcissists often ask me why they plunge into such awful depressions. But it’s simple. There’s nothing to hold it up. So the narcissist is either the greatest person on Earth (the typical compensatory state that we see most of the time) or, if not, he is the lowest worm that ever slithered forth. You see this sort of thing painfully in Eliot Rodger’s memoirs, which you may wish to take a look at. The narcissist is either a hero or a zero. He can’t be in between.
The aging body is one of the main pitfalls of the narcissist. The narcissist is often an attractive person; in fact, good looking people are especially prone to narcissism. Their narcissism is enforced by so many people telling them how beautiful they are. Problem is that the physical game definitely has a sell-by date.
I have some young men who are my good friends. Some of them have told me that they could never see a 40+ year old woman as being beautiful. They wonder what they will do when they get to be that age. Other young men tell me that after age 40, they will take off to the Philippines and screw young women for the rest of their lives. As older women are so hideous you know.
Since I definitely have sex with women my age (lately 48-51), young men ask me how I can do it. Well first you come to accept your own aging body. Then you learn to appreciate older women. I have been consciously doing this for a while now, and I have developed a taste for them. Many older women have great bodies. I was with a 48 year old woman recently who had the body of a 20 year old.

Roissy's Stupid PUA Site

Mr. Subservive:

Robert Stark is a real piece of work. He just got his ass handed to him by Roissy.

As if I care if Roissy, Tool of all Tools, hands anyone’s ass to anyone.
Roissy’s site is truly horrifying, and the man is a monster. He’s the biggest asshole in the known universe. Most of his commenters are orbiting him hoping to bask in the narcissistic glow he gives off. They are also trying to be an even bigger asshole than Roissy, and that’s probably not even possible. I mean not physically possible. I mean there is probably a law of physics that prevents any man from being a bigger dick than Roissy.
That Roissy is in his early 40’s (?) is particularly pathetic. No man should still be this angry and especially this mean that far into life.
By age 40, almost all humans have been kicked in the ass about a million times that they finally figured out that their shit stinks after all. Most normal levels of narcissism tend to fade around age 40.
By that I mean that it is normally for a teenage boy to be narcissistic. Many to most young men in their 20’s, especially the more successful ones, are insufferably arrogant assholes. In serious cases, the dickheadedness extends into the 30’s. Certainly there are a lot of extremely huge headed men from age 30-33 or so. I figure from age 33-40, this sort of thing slows down somewhat.
By age 40, there aren’t a whole lot of showboats anymore. Everyone’s been humbled one too many times. The only remaining narcissists after age 40 are the real hardcores, the true, pure pathological narcissists.
Roissy’s still got an ego bigger than the planet Jupiter, and he’s heading towards age 45. Massive red light. Roissy is severe narcissist. In fact, I suspect that Roissy, after reading him for years now, has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Don’t fret now. The Net is full of NPD’s. You can’t blog unless you are fairly narcissistic already anyway.
That site simply bristles with sheer meanness. The commenters are the same way. Would you actually go to a party full of cumdrunk assholes like that? Would you dare set foot in a bar full of hotheaded young fools like that? I wouldn’t. I don’t cotton much to assholes.
Roissy’s lesson from the very start has been penultimate narcissism.
Be Like Me.
Follow Roissy, Your Leader.
Imitate The Roissy God.
Bow At His Feet.
Read His Roissy-Biblical Tomes.
Breathe Deep In The Overwhelming Essence Of Sheer Roissyness.
Since Roissy is an asshole, his main lesson since he started has been teaching young men to be all the dick you can be. Be an asshole. Be like Roissy. So you have a Roissy column, a belching retch of ugliness, sadism and assholery, and then you have the comments following, where all the commenters try to see if they out-dick even Roissy. Hey! It’s an asshole contest already!
Roissy unfortunately has started to butt his nasty little head into the comments, splattering little drops of cruelty disguised as wisdom here or there. He has to pop up in the comments threads to show you he’s still alive and to frighten you. You read one of his articles, and you are aghast. “Please tell me this guy died after he wrote this!,” you think. “Please don’t tell me I have to share the planet with this Tool!”
Like those zombies in The Night of the Living Dead that can hardly be killed, he pops up like an evil little jack in the box in the comments. Each time we wince at his bile, our heart falls because humanity sinks a little bit lower with every scribble of Roissy’s.
This is a very disheartening website.
I wonder just how many older men hang out on these PUA sites? Seems like it’s mostly young testosterone addicts looking for a score from what I can tell. I would think 95% of older guys would be turned off sheer viciousness of the men on that site. As a man gets older, he’s supposed to purge himself of the angry young man bile. An angry older man is particularly sad case. He’s also a heart attack waiting to happen.
The premise of Roissy’s entire site is completely stupid. Granted, the His Dickness has granted us some bits of genius in the Alpha – Beta – Omega hierarchy, but mostly this was just telling everyone what we already knew anyway but hadn’t formulated properly. But credit where it’s due, and many geniuses (yes, Roissy is a genius) are utterly horrific human beings. Read their Wikipedia entries if you don’t believe me.
But Roissy even gets the Alpha – Beta game all messed up.
Look. This is the way it goes. Probably in any unglued society, the Alphas cannot possibly make up more than 15-20% of the males.
Let us suppose you had a society full of Roissy addicts who had all somehow managed to reach the pinnacle of Alphaness. It would not make sense. Because no society can be all Alpha Male (at least I do not think so). In Arab and Middle Eastern, Russian, Iberian, Latin American and Filipino society, sure, you have a huge % of men playing the “Alpha” game. They look and act like Alphas (especially in Arab and Middle Eastern culture).
But even here, the same 80-20 rule must apply. Suppose a hot woman, instead of being approached by one high-value (Alpha) man a day, is now being approached by five or six high-value Alpha men a day? What’s she going to do? Bang all the studs and whore it up? You kidding? The 80-20 rule, hard and fast, will continue to apply.
In a society where all of the men act like Alpha Males, females will simply pick off the top ~20%, the most Alpha of the Alphas and most Sigma of the Sigmas, relegate the rest of the regular Alphas to Beta, Delta or Gamma and toss the least Alpha of the Alphas (who are nevertheless very much Alpha men) to the Omega bin.
See how this works? In a culture where all the guys act like Omegas (some NE Asian cultures seem like this) the females will simply cream off the top 20%, the highest and most “Alpha” of the Omega Crew, and cock carousel them. The nerdiest of the nerds, the Omegas of Omegas, will get tossed back as by-catch. The vast majority of the Omegas, exhibiting normal levels of Omeganess, will be placed in the Betasphere.
The sheer insanity of Roissy’s site though, and really all of the lunatic PUAsphere (I include Roosh here too), is that the site is based on the insane premise that any man can be an Alpha/Sigma. All he has to do is try.
Nonsense! The pool of high-value men in any society will always be relegated to the top ~20% of men, the Alphas and Sigmas. There are probably no feral societies where this will not be true. It’s almost as good as the Law of Gravity.
Only 20% of us are going to win.
Only 20% of us can win.
Roissy’s site is horrifyingly cruel. They have set up a world where only 20% can win, and fully 80% most lose. These figures will never change no matter how hard anyone plays. How base can you get?
Maybe 20% of men are Alphas/Sigmas, and that number probably cannot increase no matter what. Probably ~15%? of men are tossed to the sexual round file, the sorrowful Omegas. There will probably always be ~15% Omegas no matter how hard anyone tries. And in between, 2/3 of all men, the vast majority of us living our lives of quiet desperation, jonesing for a vicarious thrill fix anywhere we can madly grab one, are doomed, nay, destined, to live the lives of the Beta Type.
60-70% of men in any society will have to fall into the Beta, Delta or Gamma categories. In any society where women roam free and undomesticated, this is how the chips will fall. The Betasphere, the Betas, Deltas and Gammas, are simply average men.
Regular men, everyday men, the guy next door, your Dad, your uncle, your brother, Gramps, your boss, your best friend from high school. Most of the males we straight men have loved most in our cut-short lives are simply ordinary Joes, fully undeserving of Roissy’s acidic spittle.
And what in God’s name is wrong with being an ordinary man among men? Precisely nothing.
Yet no personage is more reviled on Roissy’s moronic site, or Roosh’s, or any of the others, than this lowly Beta, our fathers and our sons, our brothers and our cousins, all of the men that make up our typical quotidian lives we tap out before we die – every one of these great ordinary men are treated with utter contempt on PUA sites, as if they are the lowest of contemptible worms.
This doesn’t make sense. It’s irrational in a game where 80% must lose by statistical law to hate the inevitable losers.
Someone has to win; someone has to lose.
Life goes on.
This, then, is the fatal flaw of the PUAsphere, the lunatic notion that any man can be Alpha or that all men can be Alphas, if only they would just try.
And every man on Earth can be rich, too? When everyone is a millionaire, $1 million and $1.69 would buy you a Slurpee at a 7-11.
Granted there are things to be learned from the most awful of people. And Roissy’s site is awash with what I might call ugly truths. The things about life that are so ugly and cruel and vicious, yet nevertheless so true that we cannot ignore them. On a lode-laden mountain, the ugliest, most dangerous, muddiest, most savage spring floods can bring forth some excellent nuggets worth a pretty penny.
Take what you want or need from these ugly sites, but don’t get caught up in the spite. And don’t forget to wear some face protection on PUA sites. The sheer malign hatred emanating off these sites can literally fly off the screen and pound your face. That stuff stings like acid.
One final note, that this cold-hearted sociopathic character known as Roissy has picked up the cruelest of economic philosophies, Libertarianism, should come as no surprise.
That he added a shocking and virulent form of White Nationalist racism against NAM’s to complement the generous helpings of misogyny he serves up is no shocker either.
Haters gotta hate. In mental health, one notion is that fear spreads. Someone starts out afraid of spiders, and the terror slowly spreads until they are nearly afraid of their shadow, so agoraphobic that and can barely go outside anymore. This is proven well enough to me anyway.
But if fear spreads, then it’s wicked brother Cain, hate, must spread too. People start out hating the guy who beat them at basketball, and eight years down the road, you’re got Eliot Rodger with a semi-auto mowing down blond hotties at the beach.

The Indian Personality: Superiority and Inferiority Complexes Intertwined

A fine new Indian Hindu commenter named Janardhan has appeared on our blog, and he repeats some of the same things that other insightful Hindus such as ILOR, Rahul and Pranav have said. This shows us that not all Indian Hindus are bad people and that some of them are capable of looking inwards and trying to better their society. I consider both Rahul and Pranav at least to be strong Indian patriots who simply want the best for their country. As they see it, getting the best for India is going to require some massive changes, hence their critical patriotism.

Hindus have a strange mix of superiority and inferiority complexes. Deep down they massage their ego about how their civilization was ‘da greatest’ with a total ignorance about other civilizations and their achievements. According to Hindus, Ancient India compared to the rest of the world is equivalent to comparing the city of Vienna during Mozart with highlanders in Papua New Guinea. As if Ancient India was like this huge Vienna while the rest of the world were primitive.
But during the last centuries they were first enslaved by Muslims from Central Asia/Persia (whom they consider savage bloodthirsty barbarians ignoring the intellectual side of Islamic civilization which itself was plagiarized to a good extent from Greek learning) and then the Europeans.
One difference was that in the case of Islamic invaders they could hide under the carpet the invaders’ intellectual side, and they are thus dehumanized as savage bloodthirsty monsters (this label is justified though as the Islamic rulers were quite brutal). But when the Europeans, especially the British, came, they could not ignore their obvious technological superiority with their steam engines and telegraphs.
Thus the conflicting superiority/inferiority complex feelings.
They were as per their myth Numero Uno Civilization in the world, but now they are nearly at the bottom. White people with their strange but seeming superior looks and behavior give us an inferiority complex. Besides, even the Japanese/ Koreans are way ahead of us, and now the Chinese are racing ahead. Mainland Indians just cannot accept the rise of China: “Those Chinkis like the Chinkis of Nepal and North Eastern Indians going ahead of us, not possible,” we say.
Thus the desire to prove ancient India being as technologically advanced as the modern world since the modern technological world is 90% a White creation and we cannot fathom a people other than us could have done so.
I think this is same with the Arabs with their Islam. Islam, the last word of God and having an Arab as its last and greatest prophet, has fallen behind the White nonbelievers. Oh, the horror.
Blacks, well most Indians consider Blacks as some savage monkey people anyways.
I would say we Indians are some of the most racist people in the world, but our racism is very subtle.

As someone who works in mental health, I would like to point out the obvious. A person with both a massive superiority and inferiority complex going at the same time is a common creature. This is typical for Cluster B personality types: especially Narcissistic and Borderline Personality Disorders. But it associated more with narcissism than anything else.
In fact, all proper analyses of narcissism begin with the supposition that what is going on in narcissism is often a huge inferiority complex which is apparently being compensated for by its opposite, a huge superiority complex. My view is that the worse the narcissist’s inferiority complex, the greater their superiority complex must be to compensate for it. Whereas if one feels only a bit inferior, one has only to feel a bit superior to compensate as all human beings are trying to equalize things and get at what I call the “zero state” of perfect equilibrium where everything is ok.
Many analyses of the Indian personality on this site have noted the profound narcissism apparent in most Indian Hindus. In many cases, this also looks like solipsism, but then narcissism and solipsism tend to go together anyway (Look at the Jews, the most solipsistic people on Earth).

Personality Styles in High IQ Versus Low IQ Towns

Jason Y writes:

It’s hard to tell if resentment, backstabbing, and hate is IQ related or not. It would surprise the amount of evil that comes from normal or above average IQ people. Even assuming your moderately pissing people off, is the extreme hate encountered really justified? I think non-genetic factors like culture and politics motivate a lot of this hate.

Resentment, backstabbing and petty hatred are run of the mill emotions found in most if not all humans of any intelligence level. As opposed to being a serious problem, this is mostly just an issue that most of us will have to deal with in one way or the other most of the time, unfortunately. These background emotions are simply part of the unfortunate fabric of ordinary life for most of us.
Resentment is associated with narcissism and competitive, aggressive personality types. Backstabbing and petty hatred are associated with femininity and a female style of thinking. These things are not associated with intelligence so much as personality styles and gender.
Generally speaking, if you live in a community of higher IQ folks, you will find that they tend to be easier to get along with. A higher IQ town will have residents that are more peaceable minded, agreeable, easy-going, nice, polite etc. They might also be rather non-aggressive and wimpy. The higher the IQ, the less people like to fight, verbally, physically or otherwise. On the down side, high IQ is associated with passivity and wimpiness.
Now if you move to a lower IQ town, there will still be a lot of nice people there, but you also find less politeness, more hotheadedness, more fights (especially impulsive fights), more threatening and menacing people, etc. Lower IQ people are not typically wimpy and passive, though some are. They tend to be pretty proactive, stand up for what they believe in, and are often ready to fight in some way or another to defend themselves or their rights.

We Are All Narcissists

fMRI scans show that we’re most comfortable looking at faces similar to our own.
As you can see, we are always in love with ourselves. Even when we are in love with other people, we are really in love with ourselves.
In my opinion, everyone is somewhat narcissistic. It’s adaptive to a certain degree, especially among males. It’s only when it starts getting out of control that it is pathological.
Keep in mind that another word for narcissism is self-esteem. You either have low, moderate or high narcissism, which means you either have low, moderate or high self-esteem. High self-esteem in and of itself is not pathological and instead is typically seen as a sign of good mental health. However, they can seem a bit overbearing or too much, I would agree with that. These are the people who we say are egotistical, have huge egos, or are self-impressed.
Visualize a scale from 0-100. A score of 1 is the least narcissistic, most ashamed, guilty, self-effacing, self-denying, masochistic doormat around.
Anything above 50 and you are starting to get into the narcissistic without being pathological, high narcissism or high self-esteem folks, which is where a lot of males are anyway, and it’s definitely where I am. Here you find a lot of folks, mostly males, who are vain, conceited, self-centered and sometimes arrogant. They are friendly people, but people who get close to them, for instance female lovers, often complain, “You don’t even care about me.” As a matter of fact, this is a very common complaint that women in general make about their male lovers/spouses in general. They make this complaint because males tend to be more narcissistic than females.
A female friend of my mother’s once asked her husband, “Do you still love me? You never tell me that you love me anymore.” Her husband looked around at the room he was sitting in, looked back at her and said, “Well, I’m still here, aren’t I?” A classic male response. “Hey, if I didn’t love you or like you, I wouldn’t even stick around.” But that’s not good enough for women. Women want to be reminded. Males and females are capable of love, even intense love, for each other, but they often express it in different ways. Women fall in love and form relationships for attachment needs – needs that want and require continual reinforcement. Males fall in love and form relationships for other reasons.
When you start getting up around 70 or so, you get into some pretty pathological narcissism, but it’s not yet the nightmare world of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
I had a friend on the Net who was very perverted and loved to talk about sex all the time. He was a bit of a swinger, and he had screwed countless females. He was also somewhat bisexual, as many male perverts are. We would get into long, dirty conversations on the Net, and he would tell me all about his life from a sexual point of view.
One very interesting story he told was that when he was a teenager, his parents hired a Thai maid. She slept in a bedroom next to his and they could sort of hear each other through the walls. He jerked off every night like most teenage boys. At some point, every time he jerked off, he heard strange noises coming from the maid’s room. After a while, he figured out that every time he jerked off, she was also masturbating in tandem with him and getting off herself. A great story!
But he would go on and on with these wild stories, talking a mile a minute like someone hyped up on speed. But the stories were all about him and his doings and goings on. I really didn’t mind because I am narcissistic myself and listening to others gets me out of my head for once. But he was definitely a self-centered person, and he was also pretty vain. These people can be annoying, but they are not a walking catastrophe.
The dividing line seems to be whether or not you care about others. As narcissism goes higher and higher, typically people care less and less about others. It’s as if we only have so much love inside of us. If we use up all of our “love potential” on ourselves, there’s nothing left for anyone else. I have no idea if this theory is correct, but it’s an interesting idea I thought I would toss out there.
Now we get to the NPD’s, the Narcissistic Personality Disorder types. These are simply a disaster. Some of them can be nice to some people if they choose to be, but in general, they are uncaring and not very nice. They brag constantly and can’t be bothered to do anything for you.
There are degrees of NPD. There is Mild, Moderate and Severe NPD. NPD is not incurable, but it is quite hard to fix. But some can get better if they work on it. I have known some NPD’s who made some decent progress. The NPD’s who get better become much less annoying and insufferable, show more insight into their behavior and in general simply become better and wiser human beings.
The reason NPD is so hard to fix is because most simply think there is nothing wrong with themselves and hence don’t think they need fixing. If you have NPD and are aware of it, look around at your relationships with others. Are they satisfying or dissatisfying? If they are dissatisfying, you might want to look at working on the NPD.
I had an NPD friend who made a big deal about how he was going to my father’s funeral, but then he never showed up. It turned out he didn’t even have a very good reason either. He just didn’t care. If it wasn’t about him, it was irrelevant. If you started talking about you, he would listen for a bit and quickly become bored and uninterested.
An NPD I have known for many years will ask, “So what’s been going on with you lately?” You start to tell them, and after about 15-20 seconds, they are already bored and looking around the room. Like most narcissists, this person is absolutely clueless about how and why they offend others or why so many people despise them and want nothing to do them. I finally cut this person out of my life after decades of trying to suck up to them, be nice to them, and get them to like me. They were always disappointing me, and it felt like they hated me. I blamed myself and said it was because I was such a loser: “If I wasn’t such a loser, they might like me better.”
After decades of this, I started acting about as crappy towards them as they did towards me. This caused this horrible person to have hurt feelings that I didn’t like them, which they tried to make me feel guilty about. This person was also 100% clueless about why I was returning his jerkiness in pure form. Mutual friends got on my case about why I was being “mean” to this family member. Apparently this person gets to be a shit to me for the rest of my life, and I’m evil if don’t kiss their ass, smile and refuse to fight back.
NPD’s are a nightmare. If you have an NPD in your life, you really need to think about maybe getting this person out of your life. Some of the NPD’s I have known have only caused me pain and damage in my life. It’s not worth it.
Going further along, you get to the Elliot Rodger type of Severe Narcissistic Personality Disorder. NPD’s are not typically violent, but they are definitely capable of it, especially if they are shamed or rejected – because they can’t handle any rejection. They may then commit acts of aggression, dishonestly, and even violence as revenge. Elliot Rodger is a case in point that shows how NPD at certain times can lead to violence, even extreme violence.
Beyond that we get into the real monsters. These are the malignant narcissists. Ted Bundy comes to mind. Others call these narcissistic sociopaths, among other terms. I don’t understand them very well, and I am not sure how this differs from pure narcissism or pure sociopathy. Obviously, these are some of the worst human beings on Earth, incurable and often highly dangerous. A number of serial killers have been diagnosed with malignant narcissism as opposed to sociopathy.
You might be interested to know that our own President Donald Trump is a classic malignant narcissist. Of course he is an awful person, and he is definitely dangerous. All malignant narcissists are dangerous by default, but they don’t always act out with violence extreme enough to get them in trouble with the law. There are controlled malignant narcissists just as there are controlled psychopaths.

Are Loners Shy or Misanthropic?

Anon writes:

OH, a final thought: it’s the same way with friendship. A lot of people are loners because they feel like the world is full of terrible people as a result of their experiences, and they become generally misanthropic. But that doesn’t mean they don’t get lonely.

Female myths in bold below.
Extrovert myths in italic below.
I think a lot of loners are very nice people, often men, but they are just very shy. When they try to talk to people or make friends, people rejected them about a million times, so I figure a lot of them have just given up trying to talk to people or make friends. They think about going over to talk to that girl, remember what happened the last 4,000 times they tried that, figure she’s just going to reject him like all the others, so they just say forget it, “Why should I try if I know I am going to fail?” A lot of these people say they have tried everything they can think of, and they still just get shot down endlessly. I really don’t blame them for just giving up. I probably would too.
There are some misanthropic loners out there, but I haven’t met many of them. I can’t remember the last time I met a misanthropic loner. Most of the misanthropes I know are extroverts. A lot of loners are just people who really like to be alone. The other very large group is the super shy, nice guy type who has been rejected 1,000 too many times, and now he’s given up.
I think the loner = extrovert thing is largely a myth created by extroverts. That guy’s alone all the time – he obviously hates people!
And it’s also a myth created by women – shy, anxious, nerdy, loner, meek = serial killer!
It’s completely insane since almost all serial killers are wild extroverts like all psychopaths, but this is the insane way women actually think.
I think if people would just give a lot of these “loner” guys a chance, they might be surprised at how friendly, sociable, and even extroverted they can be. And a lot of them are probably pretty good at sex too. Problem is no one wants to take a chance on these guys.
If most or many times you go to talk to someone or approach a woman, there is a positive response, the person will continue to try to be friendly or approach women. He sees a woman, thinks about approaching her and figures, well, this often works out pretty well, so I think I will try here.

Robert Stark Interview with Me on Eliot Rodger

This is a transcript of my interview with Robert Stark about the Eliot Rodger mass shooting case. I decided to make the transcript because the audio quality was so awful that it was very hard to listen to.
I really like the way this interview turned out. We talked about a lot of great things and I think it is very interesting. I believe a lot of you readers might like to read this transcript, and I think you might get something out of it. So feel free to dive in and comment if you wish.

Robert Stark Interview with Me on Eliot Rodger

Robert Stark: We were discussing this Eliot Rodger guy…for me, I live in Santa Barbara, so this was local. However, I believe that this was not just a local event – it was nationwide. When you first heard about this in the news, what was your initial reaction?
Robert Lindsay: A friend of mine came to me the next day – Sunday morning – on the Internet, and he said, “There’s been another shooting.” He wouldn’t give me any details, but then I went and looked it up, and at first I didn’t know much about it, so I didn’t understand what was going on. I just figured it’s another mass shooting, and I didn’t really understand why. Then, over the next few days, the reasons came out because he sent in his manifesto.
RS: For a person to go out and shoot random people, or total strangers…well it would be one thing if someone went out and harmed someone who they knew they were angry at, but to go out and shoot random people, I think someone would have to be pretty mentally tormented.
RL: I really get tired of hearing the attitude that all these people are mentally ill, and we need to treat the mentally ill better. They say, “The problem isn’t guns – the problem is crazy people.” But the thing is – these people are often not mentally ill at all. You don’t have to be mentally ill to grab a gun and try to shoot as many people as you can.
RS: I totally agree with you – I said mentally tormented, not mentally ill. Mental illness is something you are born with. Someone could start off relatively normal, but they could drive themselves insane. I think there is a distinction there.
RL: Well, that is exactly what this guy did! I read his manifesto, and up until age he was 11 or 12, he was rather shy, but other than that he was very normal, very happy, very sociable young boy. He was pretty healthy in his head as a young boy, and he just got more and more unhealthy as life went on.
RS: Yes, what he had was high-functioning Asperger’s Syndrome. But high-functioning Asperger’s Syndrome is not like schizophrenia. A lot of those people could function and be productive in society in the right environment. You read his manifesto. At what point in his life did he go from having a relatively normal childhood to where he ended up at?
RL: I think it all started at age 12. And it got really bad at age 13 and on into 14 – that’s when it hit him really bad. He got far gone from age 11 to age 16. He turned into a completely different person.
RS: Would you say it was because of the bullying in middle school?
RL: Yes! That’s what did it. And he couldn’t be popular. He was popular up until age 11 or so…that was the first year of middle school. In that year, it was ok…and the girls were nice to him. In elementary school, there were certain requirements to be popular, and they were not hard for him to live up to, but then it started changing.
Now it wasn’t like this when I was in 7th grade, but in 7th and 8th grade for Eliot, it was all about the guys who are liked by girls – the guys who are popular with the girls. And the girls were only hanging out with some of the guys, certain of the guys. The girls were all flocking to a few of the guys – the Alphas or whatever. When he first started junior high, he was pretty popular, but after a while, all the popular kids started shunning him and making fun of him, and all the girls started ridiculing him. People were tormenting him, every single day, all day long.
He would have to hide in a corner of the hallway until the hallways cleared, and that was the only way he could even get to class because people would run up to him and throw him into the lockers, or they would run up to him and steal his books out of his arms, and he would have to go chase them. They’d call him “faggot” and “weirdo.”
RS: Do you think it is worse today in that regard than when you were in high school?
RL: Bullying wasn’t that bad when I was in high school. But middle school was crazy! I wasn’t one of the ones who got bullied all the time. I got bullied to some extent, but…I was one of the bullies too. It was bully or be bullied. I wasn’t one of the real popular kids, but I wasn’t one of the rejects either. I had a lot of friends! But I wasn’t one of the cool kids, that’s for sure.
But I wasn’t so dorky that all the cool kids were beating up on me. The only ones who were beating up on me were these totally scummed out sociopath types. This one guy who hated me…we actually had a fight, a fistfight in the 8th grade. But then I had a whole bunch of friends who were my guys, and they weren’t losers, but they weren’t the popular kids either. They were cool people. I hung out with them, and they were my buddies. I had this great big wide circle of friends. And then we tormented the geeked out guys. I would get together with one of my friends, and we would torment one of those nerdy guys.
RS: If you remember the Columbine shooting – was that the main reason that shooting happened?
RL: I believe the shooters were bullied. There was not a whole lot of bullying going on at my high school. There were a few guys who were totally geeked out – I mean insanely geeked out. They were the biggest geeks in the whole school. They were so geeked out that if you saw them walking across the quad even from 100 yards away, if you’d never seen them before, you would say, “Whoa! What a geek!” You know? These guys were like circus freaks.
RS: What’s the deal with Asperger’s anyway? People keep using the term to mean anyone who is introverted.
RL: Yes, that’s really wrong. If you have any problems connecting to other people, if you have any social problems such as social phobia, if you have problems talking to people, problems relating to people…they automatically say you have Asperger’s! And that is completely wrong, 100% wrong. And if people say you’re weird, everyone says, “Oh, you must be an Aspie!” Well, no! There are lots and lots of really weird people ranging from a little bit weird to really, really weird, and they do not have Asperger’s, not even 1%!
RS: So what are the actual symptoms of Asperger’s?
RL: I don’t know! I mean…they’re weird, yes. But they are weird in certain particular ways, and they are introverted in particular ways. I think maybe I met one Aspie in my whole life, but I wasn’t able to confirm that he was an Aspie. Well, he was weird; he was weird as Hell. I mean really, really weird! He…acted like a robot, and he seemed mean and angry and cold. If you tried to talk to him, he wouldn’t even answer. So…he just seemed like a jerk – the biggest jerk you ever met! An antisocial person – he was just hostile! But apparently that was just his extreme introversion.
If you got him to talk at all, he would talk like a robot. And that’s really weird because you don’t often meet people who act like that. I mean you meet people who are shut down. You know how men sort of shut down their feelings? You know those guys who get into the macho thing, and they get this sort of monotone? Well, that’s one thing, but this guy sounded like a machine! He sounded like a robot.
And one time one of the fluorescent lights in the library went on the blink, and it started blinking on and off. You know how those lights go? They start flashing on and off, going Buh Buh Buh Buh Buh? It’s a little bit weird when those lights do that, sure, but this guy totally tripped on it! He was staring at with a blank stare on his face like he was on acid. You don’t normally see people tripping on a flashing light like they were on acid. He was…entranced by it. And that’s an autistic symptom.
Now, whether he was happy or not, I don’t know…but he functioned well enough…He was a computer genius, and they hired him to work on the computers in the library. Later he was going to college and had his own apartment. But he was a really schizoid type guy – he didn’t relate to other people at all – a real loner. I think he was an Aspie! I haven’t met any others, but that one I met was weird as Hell.
RS: With Eliot Rodger, people are saying he is a psychopath, but I don’t think that’s necessarily true.
RL: No! Absolutely not. I don’t believe it because – let me tell you something. Up until age 11 or 12, and maybe – maybe – even afterwards, he was a relatively normal kid. There are some signs of pathology, but most kids are pathological. You notice over and over, reading his autobiography, how much emphasis he places on whether or not someone was kind and goodhearted and loving and nice. Over and over, he compliments people – for instance, he would say, “My teacher was very, very kind. She was a nice person.” Psychopaths don’t say that!
RS: I think with Eliot, if he were brought up in the right environment, he had the potential to be a basically decent and productive member of society.
RL: Well, there are guys who are about as Aspie as he was…and they do all right.
RS: You know, some people with mental illnesses…like schizophrenia…can be extremely violent…but in general, people who are on the autistic spectrum are usually pretty peaceful.
RL: Ummm, yes, but if you talk to people who know them or live with them…some of these guys have gotten married and have kids…they have these things called meltdowns on a fairly regular basis, and it’s like a temper tantrum for adults. It’s just…part of being an Aspie.
RS: I think the problem is that because they are unable to express themselves, that rage is bottled up like that.
RL: Their rage supposedly comes from frustration because they are pretty much frustrated all the time. They can’t read other people, and other people can’t relate to them, and there is this total miscommunication going on all the time. They are constantly having their needs thwarted. And people who have their needs thwarted all the time get pretty angry…as we can see in the case of Eliot Rodger!
RS: Regarding rage, Eliot had a number of incidents. In one of them, he went to a party near the university…
RL: Yes, initially he tried to talk to some people, but they weren’t really talking to him. Before this, he would go to parties sometimes, and he would always get all isolated…standing up against the doorway or the wall, and everybody else would be talking and socializing and smoking dope and drinking, and Eliot would be all isolated and alone and no one talking to him, and after a while, he would start to feel weird and leave.
But this time, he went up to some people and started talking to them, and I guess it didn’t go very well, and then later he saw some Asian guy talking to a hot blond, and it really pissed him off. He decided to be really macho – he thought being macho would make him cool. He tried to be an Alpha. He walked right up to both of them, and he burned the guy, insulted him and pushed him aside, and then he got in next to the girl. And then both of them – the Asian guy and the blond girl – said, “Whoa! I think someone has had too much to drink!” And they got away from him.
Later on, he ended up on the lawn, and everyone else was having fun, and he was all alone on the lawn feeling like an idiot. The party went on, and Eliot ended up upstairs on the balcony, and I’m not sure if people were making fun of him or not – I don’t really know – I think they were just ignoring him.
But he started getting angrier and angrier, and…I guess it was a 10 foot balcony? I don’t know, if you fell from it, if you would get real hurt? I don’t know what was on the ground below, if it was grass or maybe a lawn. Apparently you could push people off this ledge pretty easily. He tried to push some of the girls off the deck! And a bunch of the guys got really mad, and they started pushing him too, and there was a pushing and shoving match…and they…pushed him off the deck. And I think he broke his ankle?
RS: He said he got really hurt, and no one would help him.
RL: Well, what do you expect? Everyone at the party hated him! He started walking away, and the people next door were having a party themselves apparently in tandem with the people who were having the party where he was at. Apparently they knew what had happened, and they started yelling at him, calling him “faggot” and “idiot.” I am not sure what happened, but a big fight ensued between Rodger and these guys, and…he got his ass beat by these guys. He got beat up. He got a broken leg. At some point as he was walking home, a girl helped him, but then he hobbled the rest of the way home. He was laid up with a broken leg for some time.
RS: Another thing that happened was he saw this couple on the beach, and he got some orange juice and sprayed super soakers on them.
RL: No, it was at a park, and it wasn’t a couple, it was a whole group of young men and women who were having a blast on a Sunday afternoon. He was watching them, and he started getting more and more angry, so he went and got a soaker and some orange juice, and he came back, and he started spraying it all over them. The group got mad, and they chased Eliot. He ran all the way back to his car and jumped in his car and took off.
RS: The other thing about him was that he was mixed race himself, and he particularly disliked mixed couples.
RL: Actually…he doesn’t talk much about that. I don’t think he had a big complex about that.
RS: I think that in the PC media, being a racist is the worst thing, and his racism got a lot of attention in the media…
RL: Well, first of all, the media keeps saying that he had a complex about being Asian. Not really true. In his early years, he had a bit of a complex about being Asian because he wanted to fit in as all his friends were White, and those were the people he was trying to fit in with.
RS: Did he feel that he was looked down upon by Whites?
RL: I don’t think so. They probably treated him better. White people treat minorities better if they are part-White. You see, nobody will ever admit to it, and I get called racist all the time for saying things like this, but let me tell you something! A Black person who is half-White will be treated a lot better by White people than a Black person who is all Black. A HAPA, a half-Asian, half-White, will be treated better by Whites than a full-blooded Asian.
The more White you have in you, the better White people treat you. That’s just the way it goes! It’s a simple fact! White nationalists probably would not agree with this, but the truth is that on some sort of a basic level, White people will respect someone who has a lot of White in them. They love the person for that…
RS: I think because he was Whiter than some people…he saw an Indian guy and then a Mexican guy and then a Black guy and then a full Asian guy, all with blond White women, and he hated seeing that. His attitude was, “Why is it that these inferior races could get a blond White woman and I couldn’t?”
RL: Well, you see, the thing is, everyone is saying that he had this big complex about being Asian, but…there are only a couple of references to that in the manifesto – when he was younger – but I think that at some point, maybe around age 12 or 13, he completely buried this aspect of himself. He just stuffed it – down into his subconscious. He repressed it. And from then on, he simply saw himself as fully White, as a White man, period.
RS: So was the issue that he felt that the White girls didn’t view him as a White man?
RL: Noo…noo…he just…saw himself as a White man! His attitude was, “Hey, I’m White!” And he does look White. In his videos, he looks like a White guy. A lot of times, you cross a White and an Asian, and you end up with a…White! You cross a White with an Indian from India, a often, you end up with a White person. White genes are pretty strong. They’re not as recessive as everybody thinks. Either that, or there are some genes that are even more recessive than White genes.
RS: So you don’t think the racial aspect of it is an issue.
RL: No! He doesn’t even look Asian. And he identified as White. And he looks White.
RS: Ok, so why did he get so mad when he saw some interracial couples?
RL: Well. He saw himself as some sort of budding White nationalist! He saw himself as, “Hey, I’m White, and I am a superior man,” and he thought Asians were inferior. He thought Asian guys were geeks and dweebs and idiots and fools. And he thought Black guys were complete animals – lowlifes.
RS: Yes, he made a big deal about how he was descended from British aristocracy…
RL: He was.
RS: He saw himself as better than other people.
RL: Yes, a really big part of him is that narcissism – that he needs to feel better than other people. That’s his main pathology. And probably that more than anything else caused his rampage. If you want to blame anything, blame his narcissism.
RS: He fluctuated between having very high self-esteem and having very low self-esteem.
RL: What do you expect? Do you understand how narcissism works? I don’t know if most people understand how narcissism works. In narcissism, we see these peaks and crashes. It’s either they think they are the greatest person in the whole world, but if they are ever reminded that they are not the greatest person in the whole world, then they might crash and think they are the lowest worm that ever crawled the face of the Earth. It’s either one or the other with these people. They can’t be regular. He either has to be king of the world, or he has to be lowest slug you’ve ever seen.
Some people think that deep down inside, narcissists have very low self-esteem, and in order to compensate for that, they have to create this huge ego. See, basically, what people are trying to do is – they’re trying to be normal. They are trying to get to that zero-state. They are trying to get to that…norm. They are trying to be ok. So when the narcissist is thinking, “I am the lowest worm that ever crawled the face of the Earth,” he’s -100 on an egotism scale. And you see…the farther down you are on that scale, the further up you have to go to be normal.
So if you’re -100 on egotism, you have to go to +100 to feel normal. If you think you are the lowest slug on the face of the Earth, you have to think you are King of the Universe in order to even feel normal. You see? Someone who just feels a little bit inferior would only have to feel a little bit superior to feel normal. I think people are trying to achieve the norm. And the more down you feel, the more up you have to be to get to that norm. And that’s why you see this bizarre fluctuating self-esteem in the narcissist where he’s like I am the greatest man that ever lived or else I am absolutely worthless.
RS: There’s a theory that he saw himself as the absolute gentleman, and when he saw girls with guys he viewed as lower than him, he thought those guys as obnoxious brutes.
RL: Well, yeah! That’s the whole nice guy thing. The feminists and the anti-PUA/Game people on the Net are going crazy over this nice guy thing. They refer it as nice guys (TM). And they are all saying that in truth, nice guys aren’t really very nice! Well…macho alphas who get all the women – they aren’t very nice either, are they?
But the whole line is wrong. Nice guys are nice! That’s what they are all about. And the attitude of the Manosphere is all about “nice guys finish last,” and the biggest assholes – the Alphas – get all the women, and the nice guys get the leftovers. We have heard all these things many times before. Obviously, there is some truth to it. Now, I’ve been a nice guy my whole life, and I’ve done pretty well with women, but on the other hand, I’m not a real nice guy. I’ve been told that I look like a sexual threat, and that I give off the appearance of someone who was experienced…with women.
RS: Don’t forget those serial killer glasses. You got rid of those. You got new glasses.
RL: Well…it’s not so much that women don’t like a nice guy, but more that they like a guy who has a sense of danger.
RS: Well…but Eliot turned out to be pretty dangerous…
RL: He didn’t look dangerous. He looked harmless. He keeps calling himself a mouse over and over in that manifesto of his. He says, “They treated me like I was a mouse…I felt like an insignificant little mouse.” So this is really a classic case of some guy who feels completely inferior – who feels like a mouse – and in order to compensate for that, he has to feel like a king…like God! He felt so low that even being King of the World wasn’t enough for him…he had to become God! He became God. I am God, destroyer of worlds!
RS: His fantasy was becoming a dictator and putting all women in concentration camps…and starving them to death while he watched them die…
RL: And in the end, he did become a God, did he not? Right? Wasn’t he  that night, when he was shooting people…wasn’t he God? Who can take your life away, Robert?
RS: Yes, I see what you mean. I see what you are getting at.
RL: Only God can give life, and only God can take life. And you know, I have talked to people who told me that they liked to fantasize about killing people…they told me that they were never going to do it, but it was sort of fun to think about it…and when they thought like this, they felt huge, 1000 feet tall, like God.
RS: You don’t have to answer this, but have you ever fantasized about killing people?
RL: Yes, of course, sure. Yes, I have. You know, I have fantasized about killing my enemies, and even, I even have fantasized about doing what Eliot did! I think a lot of us have, really.
RS: A lot of people fantasize about killing their enemies, but some people also fantasize about obliterating large numbers of human beings, of strangers.
RL: Sure, sure, of course. You know, you are driving down the street, and you look over, and there’s a sidewalk filled people, and you fantasize you have an AK-47 and some hand grenades…and you start firing the gun, and then you start throwing the hand grenades! You know, I have told people that I have thought about stuff like that, and at least with guys, they usually start laughing and say, “Yeah, so have I.” And these are guys who work in offices, wear ties, sit at a desk…
RS: But now, if you talk about that, you will be put on some watchlist.
RL: Well, look! Everybody thinks about things like that every now and then…but they aren’t serious. But if you are actually thinking about it like it is something you really, really want to do…that’s…completely different. I mean I thought about that stuff, but I knew that I wasn’t going to do it. You know?
RS: Have you ever felt like Eliot Rodger at some point in your life?
RL: Ummm. Yes. Yes. I have, yes.
RS: At his age, or…?
RL: It was more when I was older than he was. You know what? I can understand the guy’s feelings! If people don’t treat you nice, if everybody is sort of treating you like crap, you just…you sort of…you want to kill them! You want to kill the people who don’t treat you right. What people want is, as Carl Rogers said, unconditional positive regard.
They don’t want people communicating that there is something wrong with them, that they are weird, that you are screwed up…that’s all…it’s basically rejection. You know really – people should be careful about rejecting other people! Because when you reject someone, the basic primitive instinct of the person who you rejected is…”I’m going to kill you!” You know? Just for doing that to me, just for rejecting me. You insulted me!
RS: And there is a distinction between sexual rejection and social rejection. I think someone who is being sexually rejected but has a healthy enough social life is probably going to be ok. I think the problem is a combination of sexual and social rejection.
RL: Hey! Social life is very important! If you are at the point in your life where nobody’s even being friendly to you…nobody’s talking to you… you’re not talking to anyone…you don’t have any friends…you don’t talk to any people on the phone…nobody comes over…you don’t go visit anybody…I mean, that’s a pretty bad place to be! It’s lonely. It’s really, really lonely! You feel like you are all alone in the whole world. You’ve never felt so lonely in your life!
I’ve felt that way a few times when I moved to a new city…You see all these new people everywhere you go – total strangers – and you don’t know what to say to them! What are you going to say? Really, what you ought to be able to do is say, “Hi, I just moved to this town, and I don’t know a soul in this whole place. You want to be friends?” But you can’t do that! See? But you know? You really ought to be able to do something like that. I mean, what are you going to do?
You move to a whole new city all alone, and you don’t know one single person! But if you walk up to someone and say, “Hey, I just moved to this town all alone, and I do not know one single person in this whole town. You want to be friends?” Well, you’re considered to be weird! You’re weird! The problem is you are making yourself vulnerable, and that’s not really accepted.
People act like you move to a whole new town all alone, and within 24 hours, you are supposed to have a whole bunch of new friends. But if you say, “Hey,I just moved here. I don’t know a soul”…you’re pitiful! You know what? We’re not very nice! There are a lot of lonely people in our country, and we’re not very nice to them! People say, “Huh? What’s wrong with you? How come you can’t make friends? Why don’t you just go make some friends?”
That ain’t right. A lot of people have a hard time making friends, and they’re really lonely, and it shouldn’t be a shameful thing to say that you’re lonely or you don’t have any friends or, “Hey, you want to make friends?” It shouldn’t be a source of shame. And we have made it into a source of shame!
RS: These mass shootings – it seems to be largely an American phenomena. There have been a few in other countries, but by and large, it seems to be largely an American thing.
RL: Well. We’re the ones who let everyone have a gun, right?
RS: Well, other countries let you have a gun. I think it is something about American society that is different…
RL: Well. How many other countries let you have a semi-automatic weapon?
RS: In Switzerland, everyone has a gun.
RL: Do they let you have automatic weapons?
RS: I don’t know about that.
RL: Well, ok. You know, these automatic weapons come in awful handy for these mass shootings.
RS: In China, there have been some people going berserk with knives. The was a story about a 40 year old man going into an elementary school in China and chopping up a bunch of kids.
RL: Yes. There was another guy who went berserk with a bulldozer on a street, on a sidewalk. Well, you know, people will use whatever is handy for a weapon. But those semi-automatic weapons, they sure do make it easier!
RS: So what are your thoughts about the PUAHate site that Eliot was hanging out on?
RL: Oh! Yes. I went there! I went there before it got famous due to this Eliot Rodger thing. I went there a number of months ago. Well, on that site…these guys are really angry! And their whole thing is like, “We’re not getting any women! We’re all like, incels.” I don’t know if all of them have been virgins their whole lives or if they are just temporarily incel, which is no source of shame!
I mean I am temporarily incel right now. I’ve been temporarily incel many times in my life. I am at the moment. Maybe I have been temporarily incel now for…three months? It’s not the end of the world, you know? I mean everybody goes through this…but, at what point does incel become not normal and become Incel with a capital I? Anyway, about the PUAHate site, there are these guys on there, and they’re not getting any women, and a lot of them have spent a lot of money on these PUA con artists. They went to these boot camp things, or they bought all these tapes and videos.
RS: Some of those guys have spent thousands and thousands of dollars. I remember a while back, there was a similar shooting. There was a guy named George Sodini who shot up a gym for basically the same reason that Eliot Rodger did. He spent thousands of dollars on these pickup artist seminars.
RL: Yes, they can cost up to $3,000 to $5,000…to $10,000.
RS: And a lot of those guys are basically con artists.
RL: Of course they are con artists! Most of these PUA guys charging you for stuff are…classic con artists. They’re sociopaths. Narcissists, sociopaths, whatever…I mean that sort of thing was guaranteed…as soon as that PUA stuff came out, you knew a bunch of con artists were going to flock to that industry. That industry has a great big welcome mat, a giant flashing neon sign that says, “Con artists, come here! Con artists, right this way!” You know? It was perfectly designed for those types. And a lot of the biggest PUA guys…are con artists themselves…especially the ones who are charging you. They’re great big huge liars. They’re not ok people.
RS: What do you think of the media accusations where they say that the misogyny of the Manosphere is responsible for contributing to Eliot’s spree?
RL: Well, first of all…the United States is not a particularly misogynistic country on a worldwide basis, is it?
RS: Not at all. It is probably the least misogynistic country if you compare it to the rest of the world.
RL: Probably one of the least. Misogyny is much worse in Latin America, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Arab World, Iran, Pakistan, India, Nepal, and Bangladesh. What about Southeast Asia? I don’t know. In Japan, in China. Misogyny is the way of the world. In most of the world, women are second-class citizens. That’s just…normal.
RS: Would you say that those Manosphere sites like Roissy are misogynistic?
RL: Yes! Yes, Roissy’s site. Roissy is a misogynist, and his commenters are worse than he is, and they’re just feeding off each other. That whole scene is just…insanely misogynistic, really. But it’s not like Roissy doesn’t say things that are true…
RS: So what does Roissy say that is true?
RL: Well…a lot of what those guys are saying is true, and a lot of what misogynists say is true, unfortunately. A lot of what women who hate men say about men is true. But…both of them…they’re only seeing half the picture. I mean, there’s a huge downside to women. 50% of women is like a downside, and the other 50% is like an upside.
RS: You’ve been a misogynist at some point in your life.
RL: Yes, I got into that for a while. But it was odd, coming from a guy who had always loved females from an early age. I always just loved females. I never thought about it, never thought about the philosophy of it, whether it made sense philosophically or scientifically or whether females deserve to be hated or deserve to be loved…I just simply decided that I loved them, and that was that.
RS: When did you get into the misogyny thing?
RL: Well, it happened when I got older. I had worked myself into a bad state to where a lot of women were rejecting me, rejecting me for being weird. They were always like, “Whoa! You’re weird, dude.” Like that. And…I started hating them for that. Sort of like Eliot Rodger!
RS: This is a little bit off-topic, but you mentioned that you were racist for a while.
RL: Yes, I got into that for a while. I got into anti-Semitism. I don’t even know how it happened because I was always a Jew-lover, a Judeophile, my whole life. I loved Jews like i loved females, I never thought about it, I never analyzed it. Did Jews deserve to be loved? Did they deserve to be hated?
I came from a family of strong Judeophiles, and I was always like, “Woohoo! I love Jews!” You know? But then, in 2001, when the Israelis were shooting up Bethlehem, and they were shooting up the church where Jesus was born…You know, I’m a Christian! And those PLO guys were staying in the church, hiding there. And those Jews, even in the church where Jesus was born, they were killing people! They were murdering them!
RS: I think with the anti-Semitism thing and the misogyny thing, I know a lot of guys, when they first discover these things…or people in general, when they first discover stuff, they go through a phase where they are really angry or maybe racist or misogynistic, but after a while, they calm down, and they come to accept the group for what they are. Do you think that is true?
RL: I suppose, but I went the opposite way. I was raised to be non-racist! We were all raised to be non-racist. One time at the dinner table, I remember, one of us brothers said the word “nigger.”
RS: Was it you?
RL: I don’t know! I don’t remember who said it. It wasn’t the sort of word I used much back then. But, oh man! My father! My father just freaked out! I mean, all these Blacks and anti-racists who say “All Whites are racist,” how do they explain my father? He shut down the whole dinner right there. He made it clear that we were never, ever to use that word at the dinner table again. Why did my father shut down that whole dinner table conversation because someone said nigger? My Dad – he’s a racist?
RS: You said you called a guy that term once. You called him a nigger.
RL: Yes, I did. I did it. I was mad at him. We were having a fight. This Black guy and I were having this big huge fight, and I called him a nigger. I don’t know. I don’t feel bad about it. I’ll call anyone anything that they deserve to be called if I am mad enough…
RS: Sure, when you are in a fight with someone, you want to find the worst thing that you can possibly call that person.
RL: Of course. You’re going to look for their ethnicity, their race, their gender – if it’s a woman, you’re going to call her a cunt. If they’re gay, you’re going to call him a faggot. If they’re a different race, you’re going to call them nigger or beaner or spic or whatever. Or even a different ethnicity! If he’s an Arab, you call him a towelhead, if he’s French, you call him a frog. You just have to dig into your bag of tricks and find some appropriate insult andthrow it at them.
If you’re mad enough…if you and this other person are ready to punch each other, it’s perfectly acceptable to whip out the insults. If you do that, I don’t think it indicates how you feel deep down inside at all! That’s the anti-racist line, and it’s completely wrong!
RS: Exactly!
RL: It doesn’t mean you’re bigoted, or racist or sexist or homophobic. It just means you’re mad!
RS: So going back to the previous topic, these spree shootings seem to be becoming more and more common. Why do you think they are becoming more common?
RL: You mean the mass killings?
RS: Mass killings, yes. Like this Eliot Rodger case.
RL: Well…probably…they’re getting a lot of play in the media! And psycho-type people are looking at that and deciding to do it. It’s a case of “the more there are, the more there are,” you know what I mean? It’s like a suicide epidemic. A few people do it, then more people start doing it, and then, the more there are, the more there are! The more people are doing it, the more people think this is a cool thing to do. The behavior feeds off itself. It’s a vicious circle. It creates more of itself just by being there. The more of it there is, the more of it it spurs on, you know?
RS: Do you think this incel thing is more common than it was in the past?
RL: I don’t know! I grew up with a lot of guys who weren’t getting laid, so…it was pretty common. It was just normal. A lot of guys weren’t getting laid. It was almost…to be expected. It was like, “Of course you’re not having any sex. Well, you’re not married, right?” It might be weird that he’s not married, but the fact that he’s not married, and he’s not having any sex was not getting any sex was not considered weird at all. It was acknowledged that a few guys who weren’t married could get some sex but unmarried guys…back then – it was expected that you weren’t having sex. It was even harder then.
RS: I remember you wrote an article after the George Sodini case predicting that more guys would go nuts like that guy did.
RL: Yes. And it happened, right? And…there’s going to be more, even after this Eliot Rodger guy. We have not seen the end of this!
RS: So do you consider sex to be a necessary component of living a happy and effective life?
RL: Well, yes. But in a certain way, it isn’t like your needs for survival. It’s not like shitting and pissing and eating and drinking. If you quit sleeping, you’re going to die! If you quit shitting and pissing, you’re going to die. Without water, you can live for maybe three days. If you quit eating food, at some point, you’re just going to die. If you quit having sex, you’re not going to die!
RS: You wrote that these modern feminists are saying that these incel guys may just have to go years, decades or possibly their whole lives without sex.
RL: Yes, well, that’s exactly what they are saying, isn’t it? Isn’t that precisely what they are saying on these feminist sites? What are they saying? The feminists are saying, “Look! You guys have no right to sex! You’re entitled. You think you have a right to have sex.” The thing is, to these feminists, it is perfectly acceptable for a guy to go years, decades or even a lifetime without having sex with a woman because he had no right to sex! And he had no right to feel entitled that way.
And women have the right to turn down men…all the time! For a year, or a decade, or a lifetime. That’s their right. That’s women’s right. And some of you guys – you’re just going to lose out, and that’s just the way it goes. Because we’re the sexual gatekeepers.
And…you know…? That’s not an attitude…that’s going to fly very well! Tell you what. You go say that to a bunch of incel guys. Tell them, “Hey look. Women say you have no right to sex, and you’re going to get it whenever they decide to give it to you, and…you just might never get it! Because…maybe they just don’t feel like giving it to you!”
You know? You think that’s going to go over with those guys? You think these incel guys are just going to say, “Oh. Ok. Well, whether we get sex or not depends on whether the women want to give it to us. Ok. And maybe I’ll go my whole life and never have sex because…chicks just don’t feel like giving it to me, and that’s just a-ok!” You think these incels are going to react that way?
RS: What should the attitude of society be towards this issue?
RL: Well, it wasn’t always this way.
RS: To wrap up the show, do you have any final words about Eliot Rodger.
RL: Yes, I would like to make a complaint. Notice how the feminists and their male buddies are all running around screaming, “Misogyny! Misogyny! We have to stop this horrible misogyny!” Yes, there is misogyny in our culture. Well…why was Eliot Rodger a misogynist? Because…as a boy, he was not a misogynist. He turned into one! Why did he turn into a misogynist?
RS: And what would you say the reason he turned into a misogynist was?
RL: Well. Women turned him into a misogynist! They hated him, they insulted him, they humiliated him, they ignored him, and…that’s what did it. I mean you can say that he shouldn’t have reacted that way, but…people who experience mass rejection, they tend to get…pretty mad.
RS: Before wrapping up, I would like to discuss one more thing. One of the interesting things about Eliot Rodger is…I mentioned a guy like Roissy…See, the difference between those two is that Eliot Rodger hated promiscuous men as much as he hated promiscuous women. But these guys like Roissy – they actually celebrate promiscuous men, but they hate promiscuous women. Well, they don’t hate the women – they just have a low opinion of them. That is a key difference between those two. Eliot Rodger was…he was really a misanthrope, not just a misogynist.
RL: Well, yes, he got to the point where he hated men just as much as he hated women. And the first three people he killed were…fellow incels, probably. Those three Chinese guys who he said were total nerds, well – they weren’t getting any pussy either from what I understand.
RS: Yes, they probably had more in common with him than he would have admitted.
RL: Right, right. He hated those guys because they were nerds! That guy just hated everybody, man. And he was going to kill his own Mom and his own brother. His Mom was very good to him, and his brother was very good to him too. The only person he didn’t want to kill was his father. He hated the whole world. He hated you. He hated me. He was going to try to kill you. He was going to try to kill me. The Hell with him!