Why Do Non-Pedophilic Men Molest Girls?

Polar Bear: Bowie and Jagger rumored to have slept together. Strange to a seasoned rockstar or porn star would take a lot. Kinkiness can snowball. The gay-acting PUA guy I saw seemed more into his PUA bros. How into pussy can a truly gay man be? They’d have to be bi or possibly emotionally gay.

This whole idea of “gay womanizers” is pretty nutty, but there have been a few. A few very handsome gay men screwed a bunch of women as teenagers and young adults until they figured out that they were truly gay. I really don’t understand how that works. If you see some guy who has a reputation as a player or a womanizer and he’s screwing half the chicks in town, generally speaking the last thing on Earth he is is gay. In fact, guys like that are the extreme, ultimate contradiction of homosexuality. They are the Antigay to gays as the Anti-Christ is the absolute contradiction of Christ and God.

Gay men are not into pussy at all. At all. Zero, zip, zilch, nada, nothing. There’s literally nothing there. If they are truly gay, just forget it. They have no sexual interest in women. They never look at women. They never talk about women. They never fantasize about women.

And they certainly never fantasize and masturbate about women. In the lab, they typically score “Maximum homosexual, minimal heterosexual.” I guess there’s a bit of a reaction, but it’s barely enough to reach statistical significance. Straight men typically score Maximum Heterosexual, minimal heterosexual. I think they do react to men but only at a very low level, maybe 1

I just read an article about this by Raymond Blanchard, Seto and Freund, along with comments by Michael Bailey. All are considered some of the top sexologists in the world.

The article asked why non-pedophilic men molested little girls. The hypothesis was that they had a significant though lesser attraction to them such that they used them as a substitute for mature women.

Also for age, straight men

Females 15+:            Maximum arousal
Pubescent girls 12-14:  7
Prepubescent girls 2-11 4
Men both boys and  men: 1

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Sort of like, “What would you rather eat? A steak or a hamburger?” A steak’s probably twice as good, but if there’s a hamburger around and you’re hungry, you’re probably going to eat it anyway, even if it’s not your preference. Normal men are far more attracted to little girls than they are to boys or men, so it’s logical that they might substitute a little girl for a woman. That’s probably what’s going on in a lot of molestation.

Different Types of Child Pornography: Under 13 (Kiddie Porn) and 13-17 (Teen Porn)

Teenage girl CP is completely different from the little kiddie kind.

First of all, most people would not be freaked out seeing teenage girl porn. In many cases, they would probably assume it was legal because it doesn’t look any different from adult porn. Even where they obviously not 18, it doesn’t have that creeptastic shock factor that throws you out of your seat. Also even in those cases, the girls have an adult sex drive (which makes all the difference), and they typically look like they are enjoying themselves.

So who’s harmed by this stuff? The typical argument is that child porn is “the record of a crime.” That’s not controversial, but if so, why aren’t videos showing murder and beheadings illegal too?

Arguments against Child Porn (Pornography of Children under 13 or “Kiddie Porn)

  1. It is the record of abuse. In a lot of cases, that’s not even true, but in other cases, it is.
  2. By being out there and people possessing it, it creates more demand. I agree with that.
  3. The child is harmed every time someone downloads a photo of her CP. This seems dubious. What if she doesn’t even know it’s out there? Even if she does, does she get a notification every time someone downloads her movie? How does that work? If it gets downloaded 1,000 times, how is she anymore harmed than if it’s downloaded one time? She isn’t.
  4. The child did not consent to having their CP spread far and wide all over the Internet. I’m sure that’s true in most cases, so that’s quite a violation, one that can follow the child until adulthood if they know their CP is still floating around out there.
  5. The more pedophiles look at this stuff, the more it arouses them to actually molest. That’s not a good argument and the limited studies we have shows that legal CP makes rates of molestation go down.
  6. A lot of this stuff is not consensual but forced or coerced. That’s a good argument, but would videos of a rape also be illegal. How about videos of a murder? But that kid should be protected from having his abuse put out there for everyone to see. No argument there.
  7. This stuff is just weird, freaky, and gross. I would certainly agree there. If you’ve ever seen this stuff, there’s a yuck factor involved that’s hard to put into words.
  8. The victim was a kid when it happened, kids need to be protected from having crimes committed against them broadcast for all to see, and the depiction of the crime is against the law in the first place. You’re not allowed to take pictures of this crime, while you probably could of most other crimes. This is an argument to show how the photographing of the crime of child molestation is different from the photographing of other serious crimes, such as battery, homicide, etc. Also the others are adults and presumably they could handle their victimization being out there better than a kid could.

What about Teen CP?

Almost all of the above arguments fall apart when you talk about teen CP. Show me one argument that still holds up when we apply it to teens.

  1. It is the depiction of a crime, typically statutory rape. Sure we can photograph other crimes, but this is one crime we cannot photograph because photographing this crime is illegal itself.
  2. It’s yucky, awful, and horrible – it’s upsetting to the senses. The yuck factor argument here falls apart because I imagine a lot of doesn’t even look yucky. Does it look any different from “barely legal” porn out there? Probably not. Even where they look underage, though it does look weird and somewhat disturbing to me, it’s not on the same level as real CP, which almost flings you out of your chair when you see it.
  3. Although most of this activity is probably consensual, some may be forced. Now we get into the argument of whether videos of rapes would be legal. But once again, this is one crime we are not even allowed to photograph, whereas we can photograph just about any other crime, I assume.
  4. If men looked at teen CP, this would arouse them to go out and have illegal sex with teens. That’s dubious, and it’s not the end of the world even if it does happen. In European countries, the age of consent is 14 or 15, and there’s no epidemic of older men hanging out outside high schools to prey on the girls. Nor is there much in the way of 14 and 15 year old girls having sex with older men. 15 year old French girls are capable to telling men to get lost. In other words, just legalizing something doesn’t necessarily increase the rate of it.
  5. The teen did not consent to having their porn all over the Net. Unfortunately, that’s probably not even true in most cases. In most cases, they probably made this stuff themselves as almost all of the teen CP out there is made by girls themselves and their boyfriends. Then they put it up on the Net and apparently don’t care if it goes far and wide, and it can’t go too far and wide anyway.
  6. The teen is harmed every time someone downloads the video. This suffers from the same flaw as the real CP argument, with the added factor that the girl probably doesn’t even feel harmed by the material in the first place as she produced it herself.
  7. By being out there and people looking at it, it creates more demand for the product. I’m not even sure that’s hard to prove because it teen CP doesn’t appear to be a commercial enterprise, probably because it’s so hard to tell it from real porn. Anyway there doesn’t appear to be much of a market for it anyway.
  8. Teen CP is the record of abuse. That’s probably almost never true unless it’s coerced and porn with adult women who were coerced would also be a record of abuse. There’s nothing “abusive” about adults having sex with teens.
  9. It is the record of a crime. Once again, why are homicides of beatings, homicides, presidential assassinations, etc. legal then? Those are records of crimes.

Good Arguments to Keep Teen CP Illegal (with Some Modifications)

I would not be opposed to teens having these photos and videos of each other. Millions of them already do and mostly nothing happens to them. All of the above arguments fall apart in the case of teens keeping porn of each other.

But then it should be restricted. I would say you can have it in your possession, but you can’t distribute it, say put it up on the Internet or sell or give away DVD’s of it. This would seriously limit the spread because how much can anything spread if it’s not on DVD or the Net? Hardly at all. But one thing I dread is going on the Porn Net and getting bombarded by offers to go to sites featuring 16 and 17 year old girls! Because as soon as you make that stuff legal, pornographers, being the sleazeballs that they are, are going to flood the Net within weeks with underage girls naked and soon enough in full hardcore porn.

If you put teen porn up on the Net for everyone to see for commercial purposes, you can and should go to jail. Most of this stuff is distributed in discreet networks that are hard to get to if you don’t know exactly where they are. Teen porn posted in these networks stays where it is. It’s almost all made by teenage girls themselves either alone or with their boyfriends. As long as it’s not spreading wildly to the wide-open web and staying on secretive channels, I don’t see the harm.

But how are you going to differentiate between keeping it on discreet channels and putting it out there for all to see? I have no idea. The main purpose of prosecution ought to be to keep teen porn off the Web in the sense that it is outside of the eyes and ears of your average person. You also need to keep it off of all large commercial, ad-supported, or porn video sites like PornHub. But how do you hold PornHub liable for teen porn it’s users put up there? You can’t. But where the girl is obviously not 18, you could make a case that PornHub should be liable if there is a complaint. You can’t expect them to sort through all the videos, but you can expect them to look at anything that generates complaints.

Society doesn’t want men approaching underage teen girls on the Net and trying to get photos and videos out of them. That the girls willingly hand this stuff out is no matter. This is just something society doesn’t like, along the lines of statutory rape. The penalties ought to be similar to statutory rape instead of CP. It’s hard to argue that having a video of a teenage girl having sex is 5-10X worse than actually having sex with her, but this is what the law will say. I’d want to make the penalties strict enough to deter men from doing this though.

What about adults in legal relationships with teens who have photos and videos of the teen, even in sex acts. It’s even harder to make an argument that this should be illegal or that it’s even CP. It’s legal to have with this girl every day for a year, but if you snap a picture of her naked, you get 10 years? That’s just getting weird. I suppose I would argue that the “personal possession ok, distribution illegal” argument ought to apply here. If it’s legal to have sex with a girl, it ought to be legal to take sex photos and videos of her for your own personal use. The law might require that you prove you were in a relationship with her.

Teens who take videos and photos of themselves is not really CP. There are people getting arrested for making sex photos and videos of themselves when they were underage. One man is on the sex offender list for possessing, when he was 21, a sex video of himself alone he made when he was 17. That’s just nuts. And putting girls in jail for making their own solo porn and keeping it on their drives is crazy.

As with so many sex laws, this issue runs up into all sorts of thorny issues and arguments that make little if any sense. It boils down an emotional revulsion towards this sort of thing and society’s decision to encode its revulsion in law. Many of the justifications for such laws fall apart when you analyze them. And justifications for some laws, for instance CP, change constantly, along with the definitions of it. The best policy is whatever protects the morals and norms of the majority while interfering with the privacy and individual rights of the potential criminal as little as possible.

Alt Left: A List of Better Terms for “Pedophile” and “Pedophilia”

It would be interesting to talk about female pedophiles and how they are different from men.

Apparently, there are no female pedophiles, pedophile meaning someone who has a preferential interest in children under 13; that is, they are more attracted to children under 13 than they are to adults. Any female child molesters are likely to be non-pedophilic molesters or situational molesters. Apparently only men are preferential molesters; i.e., pedophiles.

The use of the word pedophile for anyone other than a preferential child molester or someone with a preferential sexual interest in children under 13 is simply false.

In the overwhelming number of cases where the word pedophile is being used nowadays, the person is either teleiophilic – that is, completely normal in age orientation, being maximally attracted to females 16+ and attracted to adults. That is 8

Pedophile is also false when it means “attracted to girls 13-15.” Even teleiophilic men react to pubescent girls at a very high level of 8

Attraction to very young girls under 13 is not necessarily pedophilic either. Normal men are attracted to little girls at 6

Adult men having sex with 13-17 year old girls is not pedophilic behavior. In fact, the American Psychological Association has said that it is probably a part of normal male sexuality if we speak in historical or anthropological terms. Legally speaking, this behavior is often statutory rape, and men who do this are called statutory rapists. In cases where it is legal, it is properly considered legal and normal behavior in a psychological sense anyway. Granted, many people have moral objections to this at least at certain ages anyway.

Most child molesters are non-pedophilic or situational child molesters. So pedophile isn’t even a correct word to use for most child molesters! The crime itself is called child molestation, not pedophilia. Child rape is a different crime. Child molestation should not be referred to as child rape because child molestation is often psychologically consensual, whereas child rape never is. Further, child rape is a much worse crime than child molestation in most cases.

Sex between teens 13-17 is never pedophilic or even child molestation. It may be statutory rape but mostly it’s just completely normal sexual behavior. You simply cannot molest a teenage girl. Nor can you molest a woman.

Any sex between an adult man and a girl under 13 is properly termed child molestation. In a minority of cases, the adults who do this are pedophiles, but in most cases they are non-pedophilic molesters. The best way to describe non-pedophilic molesters is to call them criminals. They are driven more by antisocial behavior than by deviant sexual interests.

Since nobody seems to be able to use the words pedophilia and pedophile correctly, we should just stop using them. Every time you want to say pedophile, just say child molester. Every time you want to say pedophilia, just say child molestation.

Pedophilia is simply a way of thinking or a sexual orientation like homosexuality or bisexuality, and it is biological in all cases, like a lot of homosexuality. It’s 10

Alt Left: Discussing Adult-Minor Sex, Chronophilias, Child Molestation, Rape, Child Porn and Other Taboo Subjects

What’s the message here? I don’t know the exact science of whatever men really feel, but they should be quiet, and especially they should know if they do something with kids, the consequences could be fatal, and the vigilante etc., might not be punished.

Yeah, I refuse to keep quiet about this stuff. My conscience is clear. I’m a teleiophile and I’m no more interested in little girls than any other man. I’m not even into junior high girls. Looks like way too much of a young girl. Of course I don’t molest little girls and I’ve never done anything like that in my life other than some weird childhood sex play with girls who were around my peer age around puberty. We were 13 and she was 11, if you want the details. My conscience is clear.

I advocate that all men not molest little girls and not collect obvious child porn because you can harm the girl and also I think it’s weird and you can go to prison hard. I don’t care much about CP except that the real thing is evidence of a crime. The main thing is if you have that crap on your drive, you can get arrested and you will go down hard.

I advocate that all men respect the statutory rape laws of the state or country where they reside, if only because I don’t like to see my brothers going to jail on this stuff. And I’m not wild about men having sex with 13 year old girls. A lot of places call it child molesting and let’s face it, that’s an awfully young girl.

Other than that, of course you can think anything you want or do anything legal you want to with any willing minor of any age.

This is what I advocate. Why would I get murdered by a lynch mob for advocating something reasonable and law-abiding like that? I don’t get it. And no one who kills or hurts me over this stuff is going to get off the hook by some judge because he talked about weird stuff like pedophilia, child molestation, rape, child porn, and statutory rape. So what! Anyone can talk about anything. No judge is going to let someone of the hook for “killing some guy who talks about weird stuff.” Forget it.

As you can see below, the things I do in my life are pretty much legal and I don’t do anything outrageously bad or illegal. I don’t download and save CP on my drive. I don’t engage in any sort of sexual behavior with jailbaits. Sometimes I talk to them as they are in those Kik groups below. But in California it’s perfectly legal to talk to teenage girls. I usually don’t want to get too sexual in my conversations with them though.

I don’t know if it’s my looks, but if I talk to one of those girls for 20 minutes (and I’m very careful how I talk to them), I can guarantee that the devious little nympho seductress will figure out a way to shift the conversation over to sex! See? They go after us men! A lot of those jailbaits are horny as Hell and they love men. I prefer to see them more as dangerous than anything else. They’re almost a menace.

I’ll talk to them after that. A few have sent me pics, but the pics were mostly legal as far as I’m concerned. Erotic but legal. I try not to get into actual sexting with them, though I did it a lot (mostly with women but also with a few 14-17 year old jailbaits) in Yahoo groups 20-25 years ago, but all this stuff was way more wide open back then. Nobody was worried about anything. The situation has completely changed now 20-25 years later. Everyone is paranoid, cops are arresting men on all sorts of vague, weird, and stupid sex law bullshit, and this whole area has gotten a whole lot scarier.

I absolutely like to look at 15-17 year old girls because they are highly sexual to me, and they really turn me on. I haven’t touched a jailbait since I was 21, and I don’t anticipate doing so in the remainder of my life.

I don’t collect child pornography and when I see the really bad stuff, I report it right away. I have pics of teenage girls on my drive. Most I knew were 18 or 19. I get photos like this quite a bit. I have a huge folder full of pics young women, mostly 18-23 but up to 27, sent me.

A couple wouldn’t tell me their age. They just sent me nudes with a message, “Me Daddy” and went away. I look at it closely, and if she could possibly be 18 by any stretch of the imagination, I keep it. Once girls get into the 12-14 year old age range, it’s pretty obvious that they are way too young and I don’t touch that stuff and I block anyone who tries to send it to me.

I see that stuff posted in Kik sex groups once in a while, and idiots on Kik try to send me pics with that stuff that they are selling. I delete the pics and I don’t download any of those videos or photos. I’m not putting any of that stuff on my hard drive.

I was in a Kik group the other day and someone posted a video with a very young as in way too young teenage girl sucking her boyfriend’s cock and him cumming in her mouth.

The group was literally run by a teenage girl, a 16 year old girl. It was mostly just her, a few other mostly women and girls, and a bunch of men. Those groups are all called something like Younger Women for Older Men. Another group like that is run by a 13 year old girl!

These are just jailbait teenage girls who like to talk to adult men. They pose pics of themselves now and again to show off or get likes, but the pics are never pornographic. They tend to be cheesecake-like, maybe her in a bathing suit. Any kind of porn is rarely posted in the sites run by those girls because they’re not really into porn. If you post porn or dick pics in there, the girls who run the group throw you out right away. And the conversation is not supposed to stray into overtly sexual territory because the girls don’t really want to talk about that stuff.

But with a name like that, idiots post obvious CP or what we call “way too young” teenage girl (13-14 years old?) videos and photos now and again.  The girl who runs the group will say, “Whoa that looks way too young,” and they usually just throw the guy out right away. I might look at it, but Hell if I am putting that crap on my drive.

Game/PUA: Sure, Men Like ‘Em Young, but How Young?

Warning: Long, 18 pages.

This is a comment from Bumface, a regular commenter from the UK. He’s a bit of a volatile fellow, but I’ve kept him around anyway because he’s also nice sometimes, and he can be interesting. I might as well point out right now that it is more than obvious to me that Bumface is a hebephile, that is, he is preferentially attracted to girls in the pubescent 11-14 age range.

However, the American Psychiatric Association has stated flat out that Hebephilia is not a mental disorder. They also said that it’s not even abnormal! The APA said that hebephiles who act on their feelings and have sex with girls in that range would in most countries be called criminals. So if you just have these thoughts, it’s nothing, but if you act on them, in most places, you would be a criminal.

I’ve done some research and hebephilic attractions are very common in men. In fact, 1

I suspect this is what most such men do, and actually, I would advocate this for anyone in this category. Nevertheless, there are hebephiles who have no attraction to girls over 15! I’ve been on their forums. People post photos of 16 year old girls and the hebephiles start yelling, “Ew gross!…No grandmas!,” etc. It’s actually pretty hilarious. That doesn’t strike me as real normal behavior, but I’ll defer to the APA on this one.

I was just reading the hebephile forum for research interests, and there’s nothing illegal on there anyway. At any rate, going to those forums is no big deal. All open pedophile/hebephile forums are about half pedophile/hebephile haters cursing them and saying they’re going to prison and half pedophiles/and hebephiles. In other words, those forums have as many pedophile and hebephile haters as pedophiles and hebephiles.

For self-disclosure purposes, I’m actually a teleiophile. Teleiophiles are maximally attracted to mature females aged 16+. The vast majority of straight men are teleiophiles.

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Everyone screams about men having sex with 13-15 year old girls and of course about men having sex with children under 13. Just reading around, there sure seem to be a lot of men engaging in this behavior. Perhaps a good explanation for why this sort of thing is so ubiquitous is that so many of us men have strong attractions to younger girls. Why do we do this all the time? Because young girls turn us on so much, that’s why! Seems like the best explanation for me.

I’m a teleiophile, although I’m also very attracted to 15 girls. As we go down from there, I start getting less interested, and it looks more and more like a “little girl” to me, and I’m not into that.

In particular, 13 and 14 year old girls have what I call “little girl faces,” or baby fat in their cheeks. I don’t like that. Among 15-17 year old girls, the more she looks and acts like a grown woman, the more attracted I am to her. The more she looks and acts like a kid, the less I’m attracted to her. I suspect that my desires are typical for teleiophilic men.

Given that 2

If we truly are going to “kill all pedophiles” as everyone recommends, we will have to kill 24 million men. I’m sorry, I’m not willing to condemn 24 million of my fine brothers to death just because a bunch of feminist screechers and moral hysterics demand it. I’m willing to let all these guys slide as long as they only remain thought criminals. If they molest little girls, they need to be incarcerated, as in many cases, the girls get harmed. Even where the girls are not harmed, I don’t wish to live in a society where men can molest little girls.

Since there is no evidence that a majority of girls are harmed over the long term by being molested, I have mostly an ethical, not psychological objection to child molestation. However, many are still harmed anyway, so I do in part have a psychological objection because you might hurt the girl.

About men have sex with 13 year old girls, I mostly don’t like it, not for any particular reason except I think it’s gross and weird and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

About men having sex with 14-17 year old girls, I don’t see the harm if it’s consensual, and I have no problem at all with it if it is legal, but US society doesn’t agree with me and regards this behavior as morally objectionable to the extreme.

Societies have a right to have whatever reasonable morals they wish. They are free to encode these morals into laws as they see fit. We must live in society. If you break these laws, you might be incarcerated. I don’t like to see my brothers behind bars. I’ve always recommended to all my male readers that they don’t break the statutory rape laws wherever they live because you might end up behind bars.

I also strongly recommend all my readers not molest little girls (under 13) because to me it’s simply immoral behavior. You can also hurt the girl and end up “behind gay bars” yourself for a really long time.

Everything factual I stated above has been proven by science and is straight up scientific fact. Yet if you say it, it’s such a hate fact that you will have a lynch mob at your door screaming “Pedophile!” in ten minutes.

As you can see, my views on adult-teen and adult-child sex are more than reasonable. It’s beyond me why these views have made me into such a pariah. I’m not advocating anything bad.

On a final note, I don’t completely agree with much of Bumface’s hebephilia defense below. Nevertheless, I concur with him that hebephilia is not pathological or even abnormal for that matter.

Hello, I’ve been reading some evo-psych and sexology, and I’ve come across some things I think are very wrong. I just want to explain what I think is wrong about these ideas. Most of what I say will probably just be ignored by people in the field, but I’ll say it anyway.

I’ve often seen it claimed in the Evo-Psych literature that the best females for men to go for in ancestral times were those in their late teens at peak reproductive value. Many people just nod their heads in agreement with this claim without knowing that this is not really how it works in the real world. In primitive foraging societies the girls are actually married off quite a bit younger than that. Most girls are married off by the time they’re 16, so focusing on girls after that age would obviously not have been the best strategy.

In order to stand a chance at monopolizing the females’ reproductive lifespans, the best females to go for are those just prior the onset of their fertility, not after it, and this is what we see happening in primitive foraging societies. The girls are usually married off, and the men start having sex with them a few years before they become fertile.

By getting a female slightly before the onset of her fertility, you can guarantee she hasn’t been impregnated by any other males and still has all her reproductive years ahead of her. The price you pay for doing that is that you’re going to have to wait several years before she starts giving you offspring, but it’s not a big problem.

I’ve seen some Evo-Psychs claim that women about 20 would have been the best for long-term relationships in ancestral times. Now, this is completely out of touch with reality. Girls in foraging societies usually start reproducing before they’re 20, so what these Evo-Psychs are saying is that the best females to go for would have been those that are already married off and up the duff by some other man in the tribe. Complete nonsense.

The best females to go for would have been those that weren’t yet married or starting to reproduce. The typical age of a girl’s first pregnancy in foraging societies is about the mid to late  teens, so men would do best by aiming for girls under that age. If focusing on 20 yr olds is such a winning strategy, then how come we don’t see men in foraging societies using it?

Instead, we see girls get married off much younger than that, and it’s certainly not 20 yr olds that sell for the highest price in bride markets. It’s usually girls much younger than that. In a recent study into child marriage in Tanzania, they found that girls about 13 were selling for over double the price of 20 yr olds. If these Evo-Psychs are going to keep on ignoring real-world data like this, then they can’t call themselves proper scientists.

In his paper arguing that hebephilic preferences are maladaptive, Blanchard claimed that taking on pubescent wives would not be a workable strategy since you’d have to wait a few years before they’d start reproducing, but this argument is just more nonsense that ignores real-world data. We know the strategy works fine because we see it working.

It’s common practice in foraging societies for men to marry girls several years before they reach reproductive age. The most common age is about 14, but that’s only the age they’re officially married. The relationship often begins several years before that.

Sure, the men have to wait a few years before they start getting offspring from their wives, but it isn’t much of a problem and is easily outweighed by the advantages of getting a female who is guaranteed to have all her fertile years ahead of her. If it was as big a problem as Blanchard claimed, then it wouldn’t have become common practice to marry girls that young.

12 yo girls in HG societies on average live into their 50s, so claims that your 12 yo wife may die before she starts giving you offspring are more nonsense. Sure, she might die, but the chances are she’ll live all the way to menopause and be able to give you plenty of offspring along the way. Again, real-world data is being ignored. Two other ridiculous claims in his hebephilia paper are first about the fact that pubescent girls in foraging societies are often closely guarded to protect them from sexual harassment and rape, and second about the reproductive statistics from the Pume tribe.

Blanchard mentioned that pubescent girls are often guarded by their male relatives and claimed that this is somehow evidence that being attracted to pubescent girls is abnormal. Wait, what? If they didn’t have to be guarded that would be evidence that the men aren’t interested in them. The fact they have to be closely guarded just goes to show how much the men want them.

When a girl in a primitive foraging society comes into puberty and sprouts some perky eye-catching boobs, she has now entered her most attractive time of life, and all the men notice. She’s now a perky little Lolita, a young maiden, her body is tight and fresh, her boobs are pert, and her face is young and cute.

She is now at the age she where she will suffer the most sexual harassment and is most likely to be sexually assaulted or abducted by raiders who want to keep her for themselves. That’s why she has to be closely guarded at that age. By the time she gets to about 20 and has started reproducing, she’s past her peak, the men lose a lot of interest in her, and she no longer has to be closely guarded.

Her boobs have started getting saggy from breast-feeding, she has stretch-marks on her stomach, pregnancy has made her fatter, and her face has lost its youthful freshness and sparkle.

The risk of sexual assault follows the same pattern in our societies. Girls are most likely to be victims of sex crimes between the onset of puberty and the beginning of adulthood. The males in our species are focusing on the females just prior the beginning of their reproductive lifespan when their long-term reproductive potential is at its highest.

We can see that rape and other sex crimes against females peak in the teenage years.

Another graphic.

A bunch of idiot fool women who don’t understand the reality of human male sexuality and that being attracted to girls from 12-17 is 10

At the end of his paper Blanchard shows some reproductive statistics from the Pume tribe and thinks he has proof that hebephilia would be maladaptive. Basically, the statistics show that girls who start reproducing under 14 are reproductively less successful overall than those who start at 16+.

He thinks this means that men who commit themselves to girls under 14 would also be reproductively less successful than those who commit themselves to girls 16+. This just does not mathematically follow because the girls don’t start reproducing at the age that men commit themselves to them.

A man may marry a 12 yo girl and start having sex with her at that age, but she won’t typically get pregnant until several years later. If a man married an 8 yo girl, she obviously won’t start reproducing at that age, apart from maybe one time in ten million. You can’t presume that a girl would start reproducing at the age a man commits himself to her because that just isn’t what we observe to happen in the real world.

Men in primitive societies marry young girls, but they don’t start reproducing until a few years later. That’s the whole point of the strategy. In order to stand a chance at monopolizing a girl’s reproductive lifespan, you need to claim and commit yourself to her sometime before she reaches reproductive age. What those statistics are really telling us is that it’s a bad idea for girls to start reproducing in their pubescent years. If a girl starts reproducing at 12, she’ll leave behind fewer descendants than if she starts at 17.

It’s a bad idea to start reproducing at 12, and that’s why it rarely happens. Evolution has selected out a lot of the genes that cause girls to start reproducing at 12, though not completely because it does still happen sometimes. Selection happens on a gradient, it’s not just on or off. What makes Blanchard’s theory even more laughable is that the Pume are actually a good example of how adaptive hebephilic preferences can be.

The typical age of a girl’s first pregnancy in the Pume is about 15, so in order to stand a chance at monopolizing a girl’s reproductive lifespan, Pume men need to claim her before she’s 15. Which is exactly what happens. It’s common practice in this tribe for men to marry and knob girls about 12. Whoops.

I think being gay makes it difficult for Blanchard to understand normal male sexuality. One thing he doesn’t seem to understand is that straight men find cuteness sexy.

For example, Belle Delphine.

Belle Delphine

He seems to think that men should only find adult features sexy, but this is just wrong. There’s no law of evolution that says males must prefer the fully developed adult form. The only thing that ultimately matters in evolution is reproductive success.

If the males in a species can achieve greater reproductive success by going after the immature females, then they will evolve to do exactly that. This has happened to a degree in our species. It makes sense for men to go for females who are a bit immature and haven’t quite yet reached reproductive age because they still have all their reproductive years ahead of them.

The female physical features that men find the most attractive are often those that indicate a certain level of immaturity. The facial proportions men find most attractive are those of girls about 13-14. Men find soft, smooth, hairless skin highly attractive. The skin of adult women is usually a bit coarser and a bit hairy. Disproportionately long legs are highly attractive to men.

During puberty when a girl has her growth spurt, her legs grow faster than her torso, making her legs out of proportion with the rest of her body. It’s not until adulthood that the rest of her body catches up. The general petiteness and slimness men find highly attractive is not typical of adult women but is instead the physical proportions we’d expect to see in teenage schoolgirls.

The BMI men find most attractive, for instance, is the typical BMI of girls about 13. The female genitals men find most attractive are those that look a bit immature, with small inner labia and overall petiteness – the kind of genitals we’d expect to see in girls about 12-14. Men find pert boobs the most attractive. In primitive foraging societies the boobs of adult women have gone saggy due to breast-feeding. It’s only the young adolescent girls who haven’t had a baby yet that still have nice pert boobs.

This state of breast pertness men find highly attractive is naturally an immature feature, not adult feature. In modern societies women retain this immature pert state longer into adulthood due to having babies at a later age and wearing bras that push up their boobs making them look perkier.

The male preference for blonde hair may be another example. People’s hair is often blonde when they’re kids and then goes darker when they’re adult. In cartoons and CGI the female characters are made more attractive by making them look immature, while for the males it generally goes the other way. And, of course, the image of the schoolgirl is popular in the porn industry all around the world.

Popular female figures in fairy tales tend to be rather young.

Fairy tale men below.

As you can see, fairly tale men seem to be older than fairy tale women.

So when sexologists like Blanchard and company claim that men prefer fully developed adults, we can see that this is not true. That is what they want to be true, the way they think men should be. They think men should have preferences for fully developed adults 18+, but that is just not what the data shows or what biology predicts.

The most popular age for girls in the porn industry is 18, but that’s because they’re not allowed to go any lower. Obviously, what the market really wants is girls under 18. It’s like in that Chernobyl drama when the Geiger counter measures 3.6 Roentgens because that was the highest it would go to. The evidence is that if there were no legal restrictions, the most popular age for girls in the porn industry would be about 14.

A few years ago, the most popular porn genre was the barely legal stuff in which they’d use petite 18 yo girls with cute faces who looked about 14. They’d often dress up in school uniforms or role play as a young girl. This practice has since stopped because porn like that is now classed as child porn in most countries, but that’s what the market wants.

According to “experts” like Blanchard and Seto, a preference for girls that age is an abnormal evolutionarily maladaptive sexual disorder. They are clowns. They don’t understand the very basics of how the human mating system works. I think it’s only a matter of time before social attitudes change and some studios are granted a special license to produce porn in which the actresses have been made to look under 18 with machine learning.

Some country, probably in Europe, will decide to legalize this pseudo-CP in an effort to cut down on demand for the real stuff. It will have its own category on porn sites, and each video or photo will be electronically licensed to distinguish it from real CP. I predict that when this happens, it will become the most popular category on porn sites, and the most popular age will be about 14.

The most popular AI girlfriend in China is Xiaoice. She’s officially 18 years old, but she’s clearly modeled on a girl about 14. She has a cute face, a petite little body, and wears a school uniform. We can see what the market really wants.

Popular hentai figurine.

In this video she explains how she hopes to mature in the future, meaning that she’s immature at the moment.

Samsung getting in on it too. They’ve just brought out an immature-looking virtual assistant Sam.

Sam, Samsung’s young-looking female assistant.

This preference for immature females can’t be unique to our species. I imagine that in species in which the males try to monopolize the females’ reproductive lifespans, the males have a preference for the slightly immature females just prior the onset of their fertility. One example we see this in is Hamadryas baboons. They live in communities of several hundred out on the savanna.

Within these communities males keep small harems of females with their young. When the males enter maturity and are able to start building their harems, they become interested in the young immature virgin females and want to take possession of them. They often kidnap them from neighbouring communities.

What we see in Hamadryas baboons may be something like the way our Australopithicine ancestors used to live and mate out on the savanna. Over the past few million years of evolution through Homo Erectus and archaic humans, the harem size has gotten smaller and smaller, approaching monogamy.

But…but…don’t the highly scientific willy tests show that most men prefer fully developed adults? I don’t think we should take these primitive dick-meters too seriously. There are a ton of problems with them, the biggest of which is that the way people behave in the lab is not always the same as how they behave in the real world.

According to these dick-meters men find 30 yo women more attractive than teen schoolgirls, in complete contradiction with both real-world data and what biology predicts. Teen schoolgirls have double the number of reproductive years ahead of them than 30 yo women, so biology predicts they would be much more sought after, and this is exactly what we see in the real world.

The schoolgirl image is much more popular than the MILFs in the porn industry, teen girls are targeted for sexual assaults much more often than 30 yo women, young teen girls sell for a much higher price in bride markets, and in fairy tales and mythologies around the world, young teen maidens are the most highly prized, etc.

If these tests say that men find 30 yo women more attractive than teen schoolgirls, then we just can’t take them seriously. I think the sexologists who like to rely on them so much are suffering a bad case of physics envy. They like the idea that they can take some scientific measurements of men’s attractions and put them in a graph or equation like they’re doing Real Science. One day we’ll have the technology to do that, but these primitive dick-meters just aren’t it, and if they’re in conflict with real-world data, then we should go with the real-world data.

Menarche and Mammories

In a lot of primitive societies there are taboos against having sex with girls before menarche. A man may marry a young girl, but he isn’t supposed to consummate the marriage until she has her first period. People often take this to mean that this is the way nature intended things to work, as if menarche represented nature’s age of consent. When a girl has her first period, she has now supposedly become fertile and ready to have sex. A little bit of thinking will show that this just isn’t true.

There are no dramatic changes in a girl’s appearance of behaviour when she starts having periods. If a girl sprouted boobs and became interested in sex all of a sudden when she had her first period, we would have good reason to think girls have evolved to start mating just after menarche, but we see no such thing. One month before and one month after menarche girls look and behave the same. Minus the symbolic significance many cultures put on it, menarche is actually pretty uneventful.

Also, menarche doesn’t really mark the beginning of fertility. Girls don’t usually become able to conceive until 2-3 years after their first period. These rules against having sex with girls before menarche are really just as much social inventions as the age of consent in our societies. We have a rule that says “Don’t have sex with girls before age X,” and these primitive societies may have a rule that says “Don’t have sex with girls before menarche.” But is that how people actually behave?

I grew up in a working-class town just outside London in the UK. The AOC was 16, but it was common for men to have sex with girls younger than that. I knew two girls who lost their virginity at age 11 to men in their 20’s. Girls about age 13 would often have older boyfriends in their late teens or early 20’s. That’s what happened with my mum and dad.

I was always jealous of those Bigger Boys taking our girls, but when I was 20, I had a 13 yo girlfriend for a while, so it all balanced out in the end. When she was 15 she hooked up with her 35 yo uncle-in-law, and they’ve now been together for about 20 years and had 3 kids.

I knew a girl who loved older men, and when she was 12, she confided in me that she was screwing a 50 yo man who lived in the flats. I never saw him but I had no reason to doubt her. She also had a 23 yo boyfriend for a while when she was 12, and that was no secret. He was a friend of the family and used to come around her house to visit a lot.

So this is a little taste of reality. We may have this rule against having sex with girls under 16, but it happens anyway. The attitude we basically had was that if a girl had reached puberty and got the boobers, then she was ready. I think this is the way nature intended things to work, and we see the same kind of thing happening in primitive societies.

When Chagnon lived with the Yanomamo, he saw that when a girl got to about 12 and had some boobs, all the men noticed and she had to be guarded to protect her from sexual harassment and rape. The men weren’t supposed to have sex with girls that young because they usually hadn’t started their periods yet, but in reality they did. Most girls would start having sex with their husbands before menarche. In the Ache tribe researchers found that every single girl lost her virginity before menarche, usually with an adult man.

Out there in the jungle they may have some rule that you should only have sex with a girl when she has had her first period, but in reality probably most girls get screwed before that. Boobs are nature’s signal a girl is physically ready to have sex, not menarche. A girl reaches puberty, sprouts the boobs that signals she’s ready, and all the males notice and want to have have sex with her. This is how nature intended mating to work. It’s kind of obvious when you think about it.

Girls develop boobs a few years before they become fertile and able to conceive, but this is nothing strange. Soon after the onset of puberty, chimp females start getting sexual swellings on their bums that signal they’re ready to have sex, but they don’t become fertile until a few years after that. So we’re just following the same pattern we see in other animals. The females develop sexual characteristics and start having sex a bit before the onset of their fertility.

Repost: They Were Committing Crimes!

Originally written 15 years ago.

Chip Smith of Nine Banded Books said he liked it, and it should be published in a book. He said it reminded him of Peter Sotos‘ work. Interview with Sotos by Chip Smith. Chip Smith is a sick fuck, by the way. Not that that’s a bad thing! Nine Banded Books is his book publishing outlet for sick fuck books.

I kind of liked that, being compared to Peter Sotos. Peter Sotos, in case you are wondering, is a homosexual. He’s also sick fuck, a sick fuck writer of sick fuck fiction. But he is the King of the Sick Fucks, and the King of the Sick Fuck Writers of Sick Fuck Books, and you know at the end of the day, that has to count for something. I was in good company. I’m still proud to this day of being compared to that sick sonofabitch.

From Wikipedia:

In his books, Sotos examines sadistic sexual criminals and sexually violent pornography, particularly involving children. His writings are interpreted by some as commenting on media hypocrisy around these issues. His books are often first person narratives, taking on the point of view of the sexual predator in order to explore sadistic and pedophilic sexual impulses.

In addition to offering many details about the crimes of serial killers and Nazis, the text in the magazine praises them, describing them using such terms as “genius,” “glorious,” “exemplary,” and “illustrious.” The text is juxtaposed with pictures and newspaper clippings relevant to the crimes discussed, showing that the media also abuses the victims. A short manifesto introducing the first issue says the magazine “satiates and encourages true lusts.”

Good Lord, no way am I as sick as this guy!

Some of his sick fuck books:

Lazy (1999) examines the public fascination with sex crimes and their influence on artworks such as the painting Myra by Marcus Harvey.

Selfish, Little (2004) recounts the murder of Lesley Ann Downey by British Moors Murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley in 1964.

Predicate (2005) explores the Dunblane Massacre in Scotland in 1996 and the motives and life of its perpetrator Thomas Watt Hamilton. Other topics covered include Operation Ore, the Wonderland murders, Russian orphanages, Megan’s Law, and non-nude teen websites.

Comfort and Critique (2005) explores the hidden motives of reporters and citizens as shown by their reactions to sexual crimes.

Show Adult (2007) investigates the experience of pornography. The book also analyzes the TV shows Supernanny and To Catch a Predator as publicly acceptable forms of child pornography.

Lordotics (2008) deals with sex offenders and the art of photography.

Pure Filth (2012) details transcripts of the gonzo movies porn star Jamie Gillis produced during the 1990s. Gillis adds an introduction to each transcript. Sotos, who was a friend of Gillis, brings his own perspective to these records. The book was completed a few days before Gillis died in February 2010.

A sample of his prose from Mine, of his sick fuck books. I think I like it already.

I have to pin the words down, cut them out and place them as far as possible from the dunce economy. I’m not an exegete. But I take the words and ideas and stutters and stick them somewhere far more successful.

You’ll understand this, finally, when I demean myself enough to tell you what I do with the words that these mouthy pigs just repeat often enough to tell you that they stand behind them. It’s not what I take, or who I take them away from. But where I put them. Not rewrite them.

Not change or charge the context. I identify them. I don’t, idiot, masturbate with them. I can’t imagine wanting to do anything without having these words fully included. I wouldn’t even consider doing anything without them.

The cunts that make cartoons out of their ideas. Little collages and signatures and slack versions. Strippers and songwriters and female’d max factors. I live all over them. I write through them, use them, come away with little more than a dangling possible…

What I do is inescapable.

The main characters below are some guys I knew, or maybe I never knew, or maybe I made up, or maybe they’re really me!

There’s Thrillseekerman, an all around petty criminal and moral degenerate, Internetman, an Internet semi-criminal whose web history straddles the line between legal and illegal, and Killerdude, a truly dangerous fellow with psychopathic tendencies whose bark is worse than his bite. Of course none of these people could possibly bear any possible resemblance to me, right? Of course not! This is just stuff a bunch of maniacs told me. I’m just a journalist, scribbling things down, good and bad, right and wrong, not caring to distinguish between any of them.

They Were Committing Crimes!

There were committing crimes.

And no one ever caught.

Internetman

They Were Committing Internet Sex Crimes

A few months ago, or 15 years ago, or maybe today, or maybe I read it on the Net, Internetman met 15-year-old girls on the Net, and they sent him nude pics without him even asking and said they wanted to have sex with him right now, but they were too far away. So what did he do with the pics? Delete them, call the cops and turn himself in, or keep them in an evil secret file to show it to his most evil friends? I bet they are gone now. Internetman is paranoid. Not only that, but he’s not stupid.

Were they illegal? Was Internetman a criminal? The only important thing in this whole tale is he never got caught.

*****

Internetman went into a chatroom the other night, or was it 25 years ago, or was it just something some friend said? There was a teenage girl in there masturbating on cam, and everyone in the room was watching the fun. She was 13, but she looked like a full-grown to him. The chat room was full, mostly kids but some adults too, both sexes, including middle-aged women. They were all watching the girl on cam and cheering her on.

Some kid in the room said,

I know her! She’s 13! She goes to my school!

Internetman turned on the cam and it was ok. It was like you take the body of a full-grown woman and then stick a little girl’s face on it, then you make it act like a little girl sometimes. The effect was jarring. Was it illegal? The only important thing here is he got away with it.

*****

It was 10 years ago, or seven weeks ago, or seven months ago, or tomorrow, and 14-year-old girls came to talk to Internetman in the chat rooms and ask for cybersex. What’s a man to do? What did he do?

Whatever the Hell he did, sick fuck shit or not, I bet he didn’t get caught, which after all, is always the most important thing!

It was a while back, or the other day, or some time ago, or 20 years ago, or never, and Internetman did the cybersex thing with them, the 14-yr-olds, the 15-yr-olds, and the 16-yr-olds, and of course the droves of many more legal-aged women as well, and it was all in good fun.

One of them was just a friend, but she begged and begged for him to send her porn, so he broke down and sent porn to a 14-yr-old girl.

Was that illegal? Now he’s paranoid, and he’ll never do it again. Or will he? Maybe he better not. Times change, you know. But then again, all that matters here is he never got caught.

*****

In a chatroom, five days ago, or last year, or 17 years back, or yesterday, or ten years from now, the 17-year-old girl saw he had a cam and asked him to turn it on. Internetman did so. She started whining for him to take his pants off so she could see his stuff, because she had never seen one before.

“But I’ve never seeeeen one before,” she whined into Internetman’s headphones, but he chickened out again.

Anyway, even if he did it, I bet he wouldn’t have gotten caught.

They Were Committing Statutory Rape

Internetman met a girl once on the Net a few weeks ago, or was it 21 years ago, or was it in a dream? She was 17 years and seven months old, and wanted sex right now. She kept demanding and demanding, and she would not knock it off. She was a lesbian, but she wanted to try it with a guy to see what it felt like.

“Why with me?” Internetman asked.

“Because,” she said. “You are handsome.”

Internetman thought and thought and thought, and he almost did it because she wouldn’t quit pestering him, but finally he worried it was an evil plot by one of his enemies trying to get him arrested for statutory rape. Good thing he was paranoid, so he never took her up. He still wonders about it. “Would I have gotten caught?” he wonders. After all, that’s always the only thing that matters, right?

They Were Collecting Child Porn

Internetman went into these really evil chat rooms, just on a wild dare, and people were all trying to do horrible and illegal stuff in there, men and women of all ages, normal folks, and weird, the whole human panoply. Internetman tried not to do anything illegal. Will he go there again? He doubts it.

The Internet is the most evil place Internetman knows, and Internetman knows a lot of evil places, and he’s been to most of them at one time or another. Somehow he always got out alive. Somehow he never gets caught.

You can do just about anything on the Net, and who knows if it’s even legal or what? Where are the cops? What’s a cop? There are bulletin boards right now where people are asking for child porn and bragging about their antisocial acts, and Internetman knows where they are. He’s been to them, lurking, never talking, but he didn’t do anything illegal. There was nothing illegal on the boards. Just a lot of evil talk. A lot.

He just stayed and watched the perverts perving.

“Young!” the perverts said, “Anyone got any young?”

And you know what that means.

There were men and women in there of all ages, good-looking young couples, middle-aged housewife types, the most normal people in the whole world, all trading the most evil pornography of all. Why? What gives? Was it the thrill? Of the forbidden? Of the crime? Of the rush of a crime, a rush like no other? Or of getting away with it?

Internetman went to chat rooms where sex perverts traded porn pics. Internetman, being a pervert, was right at home. Mostly it was fun, but some people sent Internetman really illegal pics without him even asking, and he freaked out and deleted them about as quick as they hit the screen. Was that illegal? Did Internetman commit a crime? Internetman trembled in his seat. Trembled with excitement. With terror. With the rush. The rush of never getting caught.

They Were Raping Women

Internetman went to this chatroom last year, or 22 years ago, or yesterday, or just some lie he told the cops, and met this guy in Kentucky, a psychopath I guess, who wanted someone to rape his wife.

“I’m looking for someone to rape my wife,” he announced.

Well, that was about the weirdest thing Internetman had ever heard, so he was intrigued and stuck around for the ride.

The guy would be gone. You had to break in, tie her up, rape her, and get away with it. Well, actually you didn’t have to get away with it, but that would certainly be preferable! He said you could not hurt her in any way. He described the sex acts he wanted Internetman to engage in with his wife.

“Fuck all holes,” he said.

Internetman was worried. “What if she doesn’t like it?”

“Don’t worry,” the guy said. “She’ll love it.”

Getting away with it was Internetman’s business his sole raison d’etre, he’d been doing it his whole life, and he’d never been caught for any of the crimes he’d ever done, and here the guy said would he not call the cops and report the rape.

“How do I get away with it?” Internetman asked.

“That’s your business. Your problem. You’re on you own there,” the guy said.

So Internetman sat there and wondered whether or not he could be a criminal rapist and try to get get away with it, under special circumstances of course in which at least the victim’s husband consented, but he chickened out at the end. But he used to think about it sometimes? Could he have done it? Would he have done it? What if he got caught? What if he got away with it?

Killerdude

They Were Killing People

Killerdude came over a while back, or 35 years ago, or yesterday, and said he was considering taking an offer to kill some guy from a woman who was offering big money to have her husband knocked off.

So they, Thrillseekerman and Killerdude, sat around for hours blasted out of their minds on dope and talked about whether or not you should murder someone for the money. They discussed Christianity, as in whether or not a Christian should kill, and whether or not the would-be murder victim deserved it since he was a wife-beater, and Thrillseekerman tried to spy on Killerdude for the cops, but it did not work.

Thrillseekerman didn’t like the idea of killing for money (even Thrillseekerman had some basic values, if only a measly few) and thought his friend was degenerating morally. Even though his name was Killerdude, Thrillseekerman had never taken it literally. He thought it was all for show, like most things men do.

What if Killerdude did it? Would it corrode his mortal soul? Could he ever look in a mirror again without smashing it? Would he make his peace with God and the Devil both? Could he keep it a secret? Would the guy have deserved it? Is there a universal morality, or nothing beyond the ether? And most importantly, would he have gotten away scot free? Gotten away with Murder One?

They Were Serial Killers

They took lots of drugs, Thrillseekerman and Killerdude did, while they talked about all this insane and evil stuff. It was last month, or was it 40 years ago, or it was something he hallucinated while he was on acid. They sat around for hours at night stoned out of their minds on chemicals.

Killerdude exclaimed,

“Yeah! I could play the role of the insane serial killer! I could play that role! I could play any role! I could play as many roles as you could, Thrillseekerman! And that’s a lot of roles.

They shook their heads and laughed demoniacally. It was fun to be evil sometimes. You can’t be a choir boy forever. Sometimes you need a bit of rough.

But Thrillseekerman didn’t really consider it, just fantasized about it. About what? Being a serial killer? How many people do that? Could he have done it? Could Killerdude have done it? Could either one have gotten away with it?

Thrillseekerman

It was really weird back in those days, or the other day, or whenever it was, or maybe it never even happened, but not too many actual crimes happened. There was just a lot of talk. Cheap talk. Talk is cheap.

They Were Selling Drugs

Thrillseekerman sold dope for 14 years, and the cops never caught on. He finally quit, and now he’s scared to do it again, but the temptation is always there, because he so loved the outlaw dealer life where you never get caught and outsmart the cops. He also loved being a dealer because he loved being a criminal. As a dealer, you can be a criminal without hurting anyone else, so if you have a shred of guilt left, and Thrillseekerman does, but only just a shred mind you, it’s a great Catholic profession.

They Were Robbing Stores and Driving Getaway Cars

One of his drug addict friends, Killerdude, came three weeks from now, or was it 42 years ago, or was it a lie his enemies made up? He asked Thrillseekerman to be the getaway driver for an armed robbery, and Thrillseekerman considered it, but thank God he didn’t do it.

A few months back, or 38 years ago, or just some lie he told, one of Thrillseekerman’s doper friends drove the getaway car for an armed robbery, and he told Thrillseekerman all about it.

Then the armed robber himself came over to Thrillseekerman’s house with his girlfriend, and they sat around and took drugs. He seemed like a smiling psychopath, and those guys are always charming in a way. Later Thrillseekerman called the cops and told them the guy’s name, but there was not much they could do. The smiling psychopath who robbed the store didn’t get caught. His friend the getaway driver in a robbery got away with it. And you know in the end, that’s all that really counts, right?

They Were Turning People In to the Cops

Last week, or 21 years ago, or while he was daydreaming, Thrillseekerman called the cops on his friends and tried to get them busted. Once for selling heroin because Thrillseekerman thought that was shitty. The other time because Thrillseekerman was mad at his friend who sold pot and wanted to burn the guy.

Dealers work with narcs all the time, and Thrillseekerman was a dealer like a lot of thrillseekers. Why? Mostly for revenge reasons. Most people don’t know that. Without dopers to work alongside them, every narc in America would be unemployed.

They Were Stealing Cars

Once, 11 years ago, or a few weeks back, or in a movie he saw once, Thrillseekerman stole Killerdude’s car, not to be a criminal or anything like that, but just because he was furious at him, but he brought it back when the cop’s son across the street was going to have him arrested. But it didn’t matter because he got away with it. Grand theft auto! GTO! Based!

They Were Vandalizing Businesses

One time, it was last month, or last year, or it was 45 years ago, or long ago in another world, and Thrillseekerman drove by a business at 5 AM with a slingshot and blew out a window in a business because he hated it and it was evil.

Committing street crimes like that, which were actually a revolutionary acts in favor of People’s Power and against the crooked businesses that rip off the People, is one of the biggest rushes that Thrillseekerman knows. You will shake like a leaf. You will shake so hard it will be difficult to steer the car after you do it. You will be terrified and thrilled both at the same time, and when you get away with it, there will be no better feeling.

They Were Setting Off Bombs

Once, in another country, or on the run or the lam, or just for shits and giggles, or maybe just as an urban legend, they got loaded and made some bombs. It was a few months ago, or 43 years ago, or back in the 80’s, or I made up the whole thing.

Thrillseekerman had these antisocial maniac friends, some of whom seemed like they might snap, but Thrillseekerman wasn’t worried, and they liked to make bombs, like all maniacs do. It’s so fun making illegal bombs! The psycho dudes showed Thrillseekerman how to make bombs, which is so easy it’s scary.

You take some Piccolo Pete fireworks, take them apart, and there’s gunpowder inside. You take a softball and hollow it out and fill it with the gunpowder from the Piccolo Petes. You patch the hole but leave a small hole for the string. That’s your fuse. You put a string down in and fasten it. It’s not really a bomb. It’s more like a giant firecracker, like an M-80. It’s not a shrapnel bomb.

Then they took the bombs and blew up this dude’s windshield (who deserved it) with a fused time bomb, and they slashed his tires (he deserved that too) and never got caught.

Then later they went to his apartment complex and they got a bunch of guys and they all turned his car upside down so it was sitting on its roof and they never got caught for that either!

He’d been ripping off the local dealers. The street has a thousand eyes and thousand ears. The street knows everything. Nothing gets away from the street. The thing about the street is the Paybacks. The paybacks are a bitch, you know? Believe it.

Then they took another bomb, this time sort of a firebomb that shoots up a flame, and threw it on some other guy’s lawn (who deserved it), and it burned a hole in the lawn. They got away with it.

Making little bombs is the easiest thing in whole world to do, and every revolutionary and maniac of any age might want to make them and set off them in the street at least, that is if you have the nerve, just to see what an explosion looks like and to piss off the boring neighbors.

They Were Waging Gang Warfare

Once, when they were young, or maybe when they were old, or maybe they just read it in a book somewhere, they called themselves a gang and sat on the front porch of Thrillseekerman’s house and shot BB pellets and rocks and dirt clods at the neighbors’ house (who deserved it) and dared them to call the cops.

The people did call the cops, but the cops hardly cared because they thought Thrillseekerman was doing a civic duty by getting rid of the real criminal (the neighbor) he was attacking. In other words, Thrillseekerman was a public service vigilante ridding the neighborhood of scum as he saw fit. So they all got away with it.

They Were Smashing in Doors with Baseball Bats

Once upon a time, today, or happily ever after, Thrillseekerman grabbed a baseball bat, laughed maniacally, and ran across the street to his evil neighbor’s house in broad daylight as a joke so the whole world could see it and to dare the coward neighbors cowering in their sissy kitchens to call the cops.

When he got to the scumbag’s door, he smashed it in with his baseball bat! Bam! The door caved in! Then he ran back home. He laughed because he thought he got away with it. The cops paid him a visit on the phone, told him to watch it, and told him to spend $10 to repair the door. It was almost like he got away with it. Got away with smashing a door in with a baseball bat! Is that based or what?

Moral: If you’re doing a public service crime, do it in broad daylight.

They Were Flashing Women

It was just the other day, or long, long ago, or it was just some made-up bullshit. Thrillseekerman sneaked into the ladies room to take a crap because the criminal, feral, 13 year old Black youths were in the men’s room threatening with their eyes to attack anyone who came in. He thought he could do it quick and dirty and simple without anyone seeing.

He thought he could get away with it. He was wrong. A woman called the cops, and the detectives threatened to kick Thrillseekerman’s ass if he did not confess to a perverted crime he did not commit. He only wanted to confess to taking a crap in the wrong place and the wrong time, which was the only crime he did.

Well, he was also trying to see if he could get away with it, so there was a thrillseeker aspect. The detectives quickly figured out he was not a pervert, but they kept on torturing him anyway and trying to get him to confess. Don’t you just love detectives? How many people in the US just confess unless the cops beat the shit out of them?

They Were Molesting Children

He was 20 again, or was he 50, or was he 35 or was it some lie his enemies made up? He was jogging in the park, and Thrillseekerman met a 12 year old girl he had known from an old job for a long time, and they chatted a bit and smiled and laughed, and then she flat out asked Thrillseekerman to have sex with her and smiled when she said it, just like that. Not only that but she was beautiful, brilliant, wise, and athletic.

And Thrillseekerman considered becoming the ultimate criminal that you can be, a child molesting sick evil scumbag piece of dirt, but then he decided against it.

There are Lolitas and teenage girls that want it, 12 and up, with adult men, 18-65. And if you do it and get caught, you are going down in the worst way. Is it worth it? Will you do it? Can you resist it? And most of all, will you get caught?

They Were Having Gang Shootouts

It was yesterday, or long ago in another world. A whole crowd of gangsters came in the door. There had just been a gang fight, and people were hurt. The gangsters were underage, some of them, but they used an 18 year old girl to get in the door because they knew Thrillseekerman’s fatal weaknesses.

Later, there were shots fired 50 yards from his door, and the cops didn’t even want to take any witnesses. They never do in gang crimes, and besides, in Greater Tijuana, here in California, there are pro-gang Hispanic spies everywhere. Thrillseekerman’s White, and he claims Norteno, or does he? Or does the whole neighborhood? After all, he lives in a Norteno hood, so everyone more or less claims in a way. Right? Thrillseekerman wears jogging shoes with N on them to claim Norteno, to represent, or does he?

They Were Doing Drive-by Shootings

Three weeks ago, or nine months ago, or 12 years ago, or never, someone came by and flashed a United Farm Workers shirt – Do you get it? Nortenos! – at Thrillseekerman and asked him to go out with a shotgun and kill some Surenos.

“Hey Thrillseekerman, let’s go get a shotgun and shoot some Scraps!”

Thrillseekerman had to think about it for a bit because nothing would be so thrilling and dangerous, and Surenos probably deserved it anyway, being scumbags after all, but thank God he declined. In the barrio anyway, no snitching was the rule, so you might even get away with it, but you could still get caught. Thrillseekerman didn’t like to get caught. He liked to get away with it. After all, he’d been getting away with it his whole life.

Which, after all, was the point of it all. All the crime. All the bad behavior. All the bad boy fun and games and shit. The getting away with it. The not getting caught.

They Were Committing Crimes!

There were criminal opportunities all over the place for decades, right under your nose, people enticing you here and there to break the law and commit serious crimes, some of them felonies, if only one was psycho enough, and they seemed to dare you and egg you on.

Will you do it? Can you resist it? Will you get away with it? Will you get caught? After all that’s only question that really matters in life: Can you get away with it?

Interesting Search Terms

I get to see all the search terms people use to navigate the treacherous and polluted waters to make it to this sick, fucked up abattoir of a website in the lowest depths of Net. Even if you have a fairly normal site, you often get some pretty weird search engine terms in your stats.

Here’s a couple just from the last two weeks.

“Gay men wear diapers.”

LOL no way did I write about that? Or did I? I hope I didn’t.

It’s an interesing question. Gay politics and the straight anal sex crowd will tell you that this is a myth and it’s something that never happens. For some sick, evil reason I’ve been researching this. I have no idea why I do this as I am not a fan of this type of sex on either end, especially playing catcher. Not that a few women’s fingers haven’t made their way up there. Right before orgasm, it’s inside you massaging your prostate. Unbelievable orgasm. Try it sometime, unless you’re too homophobic, which I get.

Well the truth is that sadly, some gay men do indeed have to wear diapers. It’s called anal incontinence in case you were wondering. There is a gay Catholic man named Joseph Scambria who has written quite a bit about that. He was asswrecked at age 29, apparently through extensive scar tissue, and now he has to wear diapers. The scar tissue was probably from repeated untreated STD infections. These can then cause an abscess if untreated, which can transform into a fistula if you don’t deal with.

On his comment threads, I have seen three other gay men in their 40’s and 50’s all say that they were asswrecked too, and they were also all in diapers. One said he has to time it just right when he leaves the house so he’s not gone too long or an accident might happen. All of them were bitter. I haven’t the faintest idea what sort of Ass Acrobatics they were doing do land themselves in Anal Purgatory like this, but apparently it’s possible. Perhaps if it goes on long enough, you can work off enough gay sin to make it in the gates. No idea.

I also saw a young White woman in her early 30’s say she used to have lots of anal sex, and now she has to wear a diaper. And a 70 year old woman who was bitter for similar reasons.

Ok, that’s six so far. Four gay men and two straight women, all chronic cases. I guess it happens, but it seems to be rather rare. Are there other cases that are more occasional or negligible? Probably.

I haven’t the faintest idea what sort of Sexual Assholery you have to do engage in for what length of period to end up in this particularly unpleasant state of affairs, but it looks like it’s not a myth after all. Butt (Get it?) permanent anal incontinence does not seem to be a common side effect of even decades of receptive anal sex, despite the extreme homophobic boneheads blathering on about it.

Second search term:

“What does a naked 12 year old girl look like?”

Jesus Christ! Did I write about that? I hope not. What do they look like?

I guess it looks like a naked little girl, and I’ve seen a few of those. Back when I was a kid, naked young kids used to run around all the time in backyards and especially at campgrounds in the woods. My Mom insists this was never true, but I have many memories of naked kids, boys and girls, running around naked in my boyhood and adolescence back when people were sane before the whole West went crazy about stupid shit. I never thought anything of it, and it had no effect on me because as a boy I had no sex drive, and as an adolescent, I couldn’t think of anything more boring and antisexual than a ridiculous naked little girl.

But even back then, once they got to 11 or 12, it seemed like they didn’t run around naked anymore. And adolescents never ran around naked. Just little kids, because everyone assumed, unlike in these sex-panicked times, that there was nothing on Earth less sexual and more boring and banal than naked little boys or girls running through the damned sprinklers on a summer day. Who the Hell would get turned on by that? Sure, a pedo would, but we never thought about weird stuff like that back then, unlike now, when it’s on the tip of everyone’s idiot tongue.

When I was 13, my 12 year old cousins got this 11 year old girl to strip for us. It was one of the most idiotic spectacles I have ever seen, and the look of utter stupidity on her face the whole time played a good role in that. She did go into the robot mind-controlled zombie role, which is what mature females do when they’re horny, so maybe there’s something universal there. She sure followed orders all right, like we were drill sergeants. More women need to be like this!

She stood there in front of us naked, looking like a complete retard. My cousins and I were all clothed, and we all had huge erections which were all discussing. Neither of us touched the girl or vice versa. I have no idea if we should have.

Sexual stuff between 11 and 12-13 year olds pretty much falls into “childhood sex play” because this extends barely into adolescence. But no one cares about that nowadays, and the sex offender lists are overflowing with people put on there as minors presumably for childhood sex play bullshit. Another reason that Nazi list needs to be burned. I’m pretty sure if I was 13 today and we had just done this yesterday and gotten caught, my cousins and I would be headed for the list as pedophiles and child molesters. That’s how stupid this shit has gotten.

But the searcher wants 12 year old girls, not 11 year olds! Sorry! Perhaps they look different? I’ve never seen a naked 12 year old girl in the wild, even in my wasted youth, nor do I care to see one.

We had a hebephilic commenter with an obsession with 12-14 year old girls who was on here for a bit. He hadn’t had much luck with women, but he got some money at age 30 and started taking vacations all over the world, apparently paying to have sex with 12-14 year old Lolitas in various shitholes around the globe. He said he had met many men on his journeys who had traveled to those locations to do exactly what he was doing. It wasn’t rare at all. Which doesn’t surprise me, but I figure the market for girls under 12 must be dramatically lower.

Like an asshole, he left a link to child porn in my comments. He had uploaded it to Youtube like a jerk. 12 year old girl stripping naked in the back of a bar in Colombia. Probably one of the most boring videos I’ve ever seen. The whole time I’m thinking:

Why the Hell would anyone get turned on by this shit?

Huge turnoff. I watched it and reported his hebephilic ass to Youtube for uploading illegal stuff. So, as far as the search query goes, yes, I have seen one. And I must say, a naked 12 year old girl is one of the most boring and unsexy things I could possibly think of. Why everyone thinks this is the most evil thing on Earth is beyond me. It’s a naked human. You know, when we take our clothes off, we are actually naked skin creature mammals? A naked human is a naked human, no matter the age. It’s a perfectly natural state of affairs. Why is this the image of ultimate evil?

Let’s Talk Social Skills: Conversations with Strangers

“Social Skills” Is a Sick Joke

Thing is, “social skills” is a sick joke. No one ever learns them 10

Anyway, extroverts break all of them all the time, and no one cares. We introverts agonize over every single one of them, are always worried about breaking them, and then get creamed when we forget to dot one i or cross one t.

With this insane #metoo crap, it’s gotten 10X worse than it already was, and it had been getting very bad for a good 15 years already. It started getting very bad in 2005-2008, somewhere thereabouts.

I remember for instance in the 1990’s, the baristas at a local coffee shop when I was told by the female manager that all the baristas talked about how I was always checking them out, but no one really cared because, you know, it’s normal for straight men (as in guys who are not screaming faggots) to, you know, look at women. Like, it’s what we do. Sure, they tell you not to stare and whatnot, but that’s hard to do. Some of the other baristas talked about it too, but they just shook their heads and sort of laughed. This is always the way it’s been my whole life. I’ve never even thought of this questions my whole life. “Do you stare at women? or “Do you look at women?” It seemed like I was doing it the whole time and simply never came up.

Punish Bad Service

I didn’t like the way the baristas were treating me, so I stopped tipping them. Then they got one that was really nice and I started tipping her. After a while, I saved up all my tips from the ones I was shunning and dumped them all on the nice one. One time I gave her $4.50, all in change. One of the ones I snubbed said, “Hey! You gave her a huge tip, and you never give me anything!” I said, “That’s right. Because she’s nice!” She said, “I’m nice…” and I said, “I don’t think so…” Anyway they figured out the drill and after that day all the baristas who had been so cold and mean to me were suddenly extremely friendly, almost over the top friendly.

I never knew if it was fake or not and I couldn’t care less if it was, honestly. I’m not sure if I care that people are just pretending to like me. Pretending to like me is a lot better than disliking me.

You have to discipline people sometimes.

Staring

There are a lot of things you can do. Animate your face a bit so it doesn’t look like a blank, creepy stare. Move your eyes around somewhat. Anyway, if a woman likes you, I assure you that she doesn’t give two one-hundreds of a shit about the fact that you “stare” at her. She won’t even call it staring. She’ll say, “He’s always looking at me he he.” It’s only staring if she doesn’t like you. Otherwise it’s just looking. Truth is you can “stare” exactly the same way at different women, and if they don’t like you, they will call it staring and if they like you, they will call it looking.

So there’s no real difference between staring and looking. Stares look creepy because they’re blank. Animate your face. Look happy. Smile. Tell yourself little jokes. If you look like you’re enjoying yourself, you’re not “staring.” It also helps to look around. Don’t stare at one woman the whole time. Though to be honest, I’ve “stared” at one woman a hundred million times, and I don’t think any of them ever cared. A lot of them like it, and they will call you over to talk to them.

Truth is, I’ve never given two-hundreds of a shit about any of this, and now that I think about it, I’ve probably been “staring” at women and girls my whole life. Generally speaking there have been no repercussions.

Until I started getting older.

At age 47, I got temporarily banned from a Starbucks for “looking at baristas’ bodies.” Some cuck faggot banned me and told me to “control myself.” Weird thing is he thought he was a big man but no real man confronts another man about something that pussy and gay. No real man gets another guy in trouble for checking out chicks.

I suppose if I were in a supervisory position and I was told to tell a customer that he was making the female employees mad by looking at them, I would take him outside and talk to him, man to man, smiling and winking, calling the women misogynistic names like “stupid bitches” and saying, “Look, there’s nothing wrong with looking at women but you’re being too obvious about it. Try these tricks instead.” The truth is the female employees tried to get him banned for the crime of being ugly and looking at women. Ugly men can’t look at women. Only Chad can look at women. The rest of the men? I dunno.

So what I had been getting away with my whole life, I could no longer get away with. All of the rules had changed. See how I told you they change the rules on you.

I also learned a few other things.

You Can’t Look at Kids Anymore. At All

You can’t look at kids anymore. Well, we all love kids, and everybody likes to look at cute little kids of either sex running around or having fun. At the same shop as above, there were these two boys running up and down this very steep hill, laughing and playing the whole time. They might have been 10. I did the same stuff when I was that age, so it reminded me of my youth.

I sat there and watched those boys going up and down that hill with a big smile on my face, traveling back in time. After a while, it seemed like some of the local cucks and fags were staring at me with a very hostile look. It took me until a while later to figure it out, but in our insane society nowadays, a grown man cannot watch two young boys play and enjoy themselves. If he does, that means he is a gay pedophile who is plotting to molest them. Pedophile Mass Hysteria again. Sigh. I don’t even date men. Why would I have sex with a boy?

But after that, I started being a lot more careful at how I look at kids. I still look at them sometimes, but I’m a lot more careful how I do it.

How to Talk to Kids Or Adults with Kids

Most of us are not molesters, but even if you’re not a molester, most adults still find kids delightful and any normal adult might want to talk to a kid of a parent with a kid sometime.

This is to show you how to do that.

I saw a boy with his apparent father the other in the store. They smiled back at me, and I went over and said, “Father and son?” I pointed to the boy, “Ten?” He smiled, “Eight.” That was it. I walked away. They were Hispanic and Hispanics are way less weird about this stuff.

One time a man and a woman and what must have been a 12 year old girl came into a coffee shop. The girl had to have been 12 years old because no other age looks like that. 12 year old girls are adorable and wonderful creatures, but obviously you can’t touch them. I don’t even have sexual thoughts when I look at them because they really don’t do it for me. The  girl had an equally adorable puppy in the pocket of her dress, poking its head out. The whole scene was quite adorable really, the adorable young girl and her adorable little dog and their obvious love for each other. She was with Mom and Dad.

I did turn around and look at her quite a bit. I would look for a bit, and then I would turn back around. I always mostly looked a the dog. I put these thoughts in my head while I was doing it,

What a wonderful, adorable dog! Look at that adorable little girl and how devoted she is to that too-cute little puppy! Tugs at your heartstrings!

I didn’t have any sexual thoughts about her, though there would have been nothing wrong if I did. Those girls just don’t do it for me. I like grown up girls, not little girls. I’m convinced that the thoughts you put in your head when you look at people help to convey a message. If you’re going to look at a little girl and her puppy, put innocent, angelic, “Oh how cute” thoughts in your head. I did that a while and no one cared. If you looked at me, it mostly looked like I was looking at the dog anyway. The parents didn’t care, but they were Hispanics and Hispanics don’t give a fuck. They probably figured I was looking at the cute dog, not perving on the girl, and they didn’t give a damn.

I Have to Admit It’s Pretty Fun Living in a Patriarchal Society as a Man

Now that I live a patriarchal “men rule” Hispanic community, you can sometimes approach a father and son and ask in a neighborly way whether they are father and son, that sort of thing. Don’t get nervous or scared that you will think the wrong thing. Just put completely innocent thoughts in your head.

Hey, I’m going over to talk to this guy and his son in a totally innocent and non-creepy way.

As long as you have that mindset, you should be ok. One guy to another sort of thing. For some reason, Hispanic men never think you’re trying to fuck their little boy like stupid White men are.

Now if it’s a girl, it’s a whole other ballgame. I was in a coffee shop and an Hispanic man had his little daughter in there. She was doing dance moves, running from the center of the room 15 feet towards the front and doing twirls and whatnot. She was wearing a little ballerina dress. It was cute as all get out watching that little girl do her delightful dance moves in public, so I sat back and admired her with a big smile on my face for a few minutes. I didn’t think sexual thoughts about her, but it wouldn’t have mattered if I did. Anyone can think anything they want. Seven year old girls just don’t do it for me, sorry!

The father soon glared at me, grabbed his daughter, and walked out. Ridiculous. See? You can’t even look at kids being their delightful selves anymore. Pedophile Mass Hysteria.

How to Ask How Old a Kid Is

Maybe you want to know how old the kid is. The ages of children and teens are interesting because they change so much with every year. Think of the growth spurts and changes from one year to the next from ages 1-10 or 11-17 and compare them to the year to year changes of someone in their 20’s. People in their 20’s barely register any perceptual changes from year to year. As far as kids go, I mostly want to guess their ages more than anything because that is interesting to me and it’s also a bit of an intellectual challenge.

Remember how I said you could ask the age of a man’s son? You can, but I prefer to do it as a guess. I nod to the kid and guess his age, “Eight?” Then the father beams and you’re either right or he happily corrects you. “How old is he?” sounds a bit weird and creepy in these ridiculous and hysterical times. It’s better to do it super casual like I do. Be totally relaxed when you do this because if you seem nervous or fearful, you might freak out the father.

After that I generally turn away unless the father gives me a signal to keep talking. It’s very non-creepy to walk up to a father and son, inquire if they are father and son, non-creepily ask the age of the kid, smile and then walk away, acting extremely casual about it the whole time. Don’t try to have conversations where other people clearly don’t want to have them.

Talking to Female Minors

The best attitude here is to do it as infrequently as possible because it’s so rent with landmines. But many men with no sexual intentions at all nevertheless wish to speak to female minors and even children because all normal humans love and are enchanted by kids and even teenagers.

Now if you see a girl and you want to ask her age, that’s going to be a lot more difficult, especially if she’s a teenager. If she’s a little girl with her Mom and you say it innocently enough, it will probably go over. A little girl alone or with a friend, just forget it. But you need to be extra careful where any female minors are involved. Most of the time, I probably wouldn’t even ask.

I used to but I started getting some bad vibes. I would talk to the mother, nod my head at the girl and say, “13?” Sometimes it went over but other times it didn’t at all. And once they start getting into 14-17, you can barely ask their ages at all because everything has sexual overtones and everyone assumes you are trying to fuck her. I’m not trying to fuck any girl that age, but if I try to talk to her, everyone is going to assume just that. Teenage Girl Sex Panic.

There were a pair of young Hispanic females who came in the other day. I kept looking at them because they were both quite Indian-looking and about the same height. One was 13 or so obviously, but I couldn’t figure out the other one. Was she the mother? I started thinking the mother looked about as old as the daughter. This was very puzzling to me so I was looking at them and trying to figure out which one was the mother  and which was the daughter! This shows you the degree of peadomorphiism  and neotenism in some of these Indian groups. Their neotenic appearance is enhanced by their small sizes – they are typically quite short.

I was looking at them ordering from behind, and I was looking at the older one’s body and trying to figure out if she was the mother. I wasn’t even really thinking anything sexual, though that would have been just fine. I was trying to discern a familial relationship! The barista looked at me weird like I shouldn’t be looking at them, and I didn’t understand that. Why can’t I look at a woman?

They ordered and then came back near me. I sidled over to them and spoke to them in extremely casual, “I don’t care” type of way (which could also be construed as “not serious” and “no need to worry about me”). Females of all ages feel pretty threatened by us men, especially male strangers, so it’s important to try to put them at ease not just for your own, not just for your own purpose but even if only from a humanistic point of view.

“Mother and daughter?,” I asked, as if it were the most casual, don’t give a damn question on Earth. They were very Hispanic which means very relaxed about most uptight bullshit like Teenage Girl Mass Hysteria. The older one looked at me and said, “No, sisters.” I laughed hard and said, “No way.” Then I think I asked their ages, but I was laughing the whole time. If you’re going to ask the ages of female minors, you have to do so in a joking, laughing, “don’t care” sort of way because this question can be frightening to them. When you laugh it takes the tension off and makes it seem less sexual.

“I’m 15 and she’s 13,” she said. I just said, “No way” and laughed some more. They didn’t particularly seem like they wanted to talk anymore, so I ended the conversation very quickly and walked away. Whenever someone acts like they don’t particularly want to talk to you (which is all day long every single day at my age), just end the conversation quickly, and turn around or walk away, all very casually. Don’t act angry. You can roll your eyes, though because it is pretty dicky to shut down friendly strangers.

The problem here is your brain. Your brain or ego really sees it as an insult that this person is giving off vibes saying, “I don’t want to talk to you.” Your brain and psyche would rather have a quite unpleasant conversation where the person acts like they don’t want to talk to you the whole time than to be shut down right away and walk away in humiliation. I suppose if you managed even an unpleasant conversation, your psyche sees it as some sort of a perverse win or at least not a fail.

You can often ask the age of the minor if you see what looks like an obvious mom and daughter. It’s probably better if she is a child than if she is a teenager because with the teenager both the girl and the mother are going to make a lot of automatic sexual assumptions. You might want to try to clear out sexual thoughts when you say it too, to the extent that’s possible. With a lot of teenage girls, that’s going to be quite difficult, so try to put them aside so to speak instead. Put them “on the backburner” in your brain. I am convinced that sexual thoughts get transmitted pretty easily to others.

Look at the girl, point to her, and guess an age in a very quick and casual way, and then turn and look away from them. Or look at both of them and ask, “Mother and daughter?” The latter question seems to go over a lot better. When you turn and look away from people this is a sign of submissiveness and harmlessness so you can appear casual, nonsexual, and nonthreatening. That’s how I see it. Keep it “casual.” Super, super casual. They will probably give you the girl’s age. Then just smile and nod and walk away if it doesn’t seem like they want to carry the conversation beyond that, which is the usual case.

I’m not sure what else you could say afterwards anyway, and I’d be afraid of continuing for fear of being seen as sexual. Generally I’m extremely cautious about saying much of anything to any female minors. Also, mothers of teenage girls are extremely dangerous and are insanely suspicious about any male stranger inquiring even in the most harmless way about her daughter. Especially now with Teenage Girl Mass Hysteria where even the admission of having the normal attraction that all men have to teenage girls is enough to bring out death threats and lynch mobs.

Teenage girls and their mothers are all totally paranoid nowadays because of the Moral Panics, so it’s best for you to be paranoid too.

You Can’t Just Go Up and Talk to Anybody

I got banned from a Starbucks for the crime of “talking to humans.” Some young women banned me. I think I knew the ones who did, too. I was literally talking to them about the weather. At that point in my life I was going up and talking to people all the time, talking to people out of the blue, etc. Basically treating a lot of strangers like potential conversation partners. Which I’d been doing my whole life because I’m the sort of person who strikes up conversations with strangers a lot. It had never been much of a problem but now at my age, it’s turning into a big deal.

Turns out I had been talking to young women, but I had been talking to people of every other age group too. I would walk over to a table and say something, make a joke or something, and walk away. Turns out you can’t do that anymore. Truth is I’d been going to this shop for years. Sure, I talked to a number of young women, but in my utter patheticness, I never flirted with a single one of them for even one second. I just chit-chatted about this, that, or whatever, the weather, made jokes, just casual conversational bullshit. Absolutely no sexual content or vibes whatsoever with any of them.

I would have loved to have flirted with some of them or even be openly sexual, but none of them even seemed to give off strong enough signals that they wanted to me to do that, and I need green lights.

Turns out you can’t do that anymore or at least I can’t do it anymore at my age. Past a certain age, you just can’t walk up to young women and start talking to them, even if they are standing next to you in life. It’s pretty much banned, and if you do it, people act like they are going to call the cops.

So I got banned for “talking to humans.” Apparently “talking to humans” is now “harassment.” I guess nowadays you are “harassing” people by trying to talk to them! Who knew? The speech need not be sexual in any way. The mere fact The sexual overtones are obvious but I never once even flirted with one of those women in the slightest. It shouldn’t really matter it I did because after all, men have a right to flirt with women, but I didn’t.

What I learned is that I have to be totally paranoid at my age. I only talk to people if they give off a strong vibe of wanting to talk to me. If they seem like they don’t want to talk to me, I don’t talk to them. If they seem like they are ignoring me, I don’t talk to them. If a woman acts like she’s ignoring you, she probably is. I don’t think you should approach her.

Look at people and see how they react. If they ignore you, leave them alone. If she’s busy on her laptop or with her schoolwork, leave her the Hell alone. Can’t you see she’s busy? Look over at people.

If you think you might want to talk to them, you can look at them a number of times. Look at them a bit, then look away. Then look at them a bit, then look away. Or look at them out of the corner of your eye. If they see you look at them but don’t act open and friendly, don’t go over and talk to them. That’s what I was doing before. It was a bad idea.

If people seem like they are not open and friendly and you go over and talk to them, they may open up. But more often than not, they don’t. They may just stay cold. You get vibes like:

  • “Why the Hell are you talking to us?”
  • “Who the Hell are you, anyway?”
  • “What gives you the right to talk to us?”
  • “You’re a stranger, why should I talk to you?”
  • “You’re being audacious.”
  • “We don’t know you, so why are you talking to us.”
  • You’re rude.”

I’ve gotten all of these messages a million times in my life, and nowadays it’s pretty much an all day every day type of thing.

The thing is once you get that vibe, you need to just take off. And try not to get mad. They have a right not to talk to you. They’re not being mean or cold or rude or anything by not talking to you. Nobody has to talk to anyone. Just because they don’t want to talk to you doesn’t mean that they necessarily don’t like you or hate you. Mostly you’re probably just not on their mind at all.

There’s a problem here. When someone gives off those vibes, your brain rebels. Actually, your ego rebels. Your ego takes it as an insult. Your ego will want to ignore the vibes they are giving off and try to keep talking to them. Your ego will tell you, “If you keep talking to them, they will warm up.” Also to walk away is to admit that someone snubbed you, and that’s an insult. It seems less of an insult if you keep talking to them. It keeps the insult at bay.

There’s a real problem here. It doesn’t work. When conversations start out bad like that, they never or almost never warm up. In fact, they tend to go downhill if they go anywhere. Still, your ego tells you to keep plugging on.

The “Subconscious Cope”

I call it “the subconscious cope.”

It has very serious Game/PUA implications. The subconscious cope is where your brain keeps telling you some woman is into you when she’s not. You always interpret everything in a positive way as if it’s a possible come-on. I’ve had to deal with this my whole life, but now that I am paranoid, I have a handle on my subconscious cope. The subconscious cope keeps telling you:

  • “Hey, that woman likes you!”
  • “Look, that woman smiled at you!”
  • “She stared at you – that means she likes you!”
  • “She stared at you with frightened eyes – that means she’s horny!”
  • “She’s nervous around you – that’s because she likes you!”
  • “She acted cold. She doesn’t mean it. Really she still likes you. Ignore it and keep trying!”

Your ego wants to think that all the women everywhere are into you and it’s going to be telling you that your whole life. Problem is it’s lying to you. They’re not all into you. A lot of them probably hate you. There are plenty of young women (and even some older women for that matter) around here who act like they hate me. I haven’t the faintest idea why they feel this way.

The woman who looked at you with those frightened eyes? That’s because you’re scaring her, not because she’s horny. And lately I have found a few cases of women staring at me because they hate me.

And for the first time in my life, I have found women acting nervous around me because they think I’m hitting on them and they’re not comfortable with that, probably because of my age. I’m starting to get pretty worried now whenever any woman acts nervous around me. Lately that’s just not a good thing at all.

I started noticing some other things too.

Some baristas at the coffee shop would go into the back room soon after I showed up. I didn’t think anything of it for a long time until it hit me with a hammer in the face. They were going to the back room because I looked at them, and they didn’t like it. Solution was to try not to look at them, but they were hot, so that was almost impossible. But that realization really hit me in the face. In order to see something like that, you have be able to see patterns. That’s hard to do because your brain doesn’t want to see patterns, especially lousy patterns.

Subconscious cope. Your brain is very biased to ignore expressions unpleasant patterns where people seem like they don’t like you. That’s something it just wants to ignore because it’s so painful. And it wants to look for pleasant and uplifting patterns because those make it feel good. So it’s always going to be biased towards thinking people like you when they don’t, and not recognizing it when people act like they don’t like you. When you’re being dumped, the subconscious cope says it’s not happening and she’s really still with you. It’s looking for positives everywhere and imagining a lot of them and ignoring all the negatives, even when they are real.

You need to recognize that your subconscious cope is operating all the time, and you need to try to combat it because if you listen to it, you tend to get into trouble.

 

 

 

Alt Left: Why Has a Sexual Preference for Pedophilia Been Wired into So Many Men?

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I realize that figure is shocking, but bear with me. It’s been born out by study after study. The studies compared male reactions to females under 13 with reactions to females 16+.

Whenever anything is that common, there is probably a genetic tendency for it. Also, age preference in males cannot be corrected by any experimental means. Things that cannot be corrected in the lab are usually thought to be hardwired and biologically based.

So why are 2

It appears that there is a genetic preference for pubertal age girls that has been encoded in males and is present in a sizeable minority of them. The reasons for this are up for grabs, but among the Yanonamo Indians of Venezuela, men usually grab a wife at age 12 and often fight other men for girls that age. Sex may not take place for a few years later, but at least they nab them very young.

Perhaps there was a preference to select pubertal girls and sequester them away from other men for a bit until they became fully fertile at age 16, at which time she would be locked into that man and all of her children would be his.

Historically, early life was indeed short, nasty, and brutish, and perhaps primitive life still is. By age 40, every Yanonamo man has committed at least one homicide of another man. If you’re a pacifist you simply don’t make it to age 40. You die young, killed by other men. Kill or be killed. The law of the jungle.

Even the Worst People on Earth May Have a Bit of a Moral Compass

Rambo: From the very beginning of the Delphi case, a lot of people had sneaking suspicions that there was a better than average chance that the person or persons involved in this knew beforehand that the day of the crimes would be a school off-day for the girls. A lot of people’s first thought was someone connected with the girls’ school.

Yes, of course. It’s worse than that. He actually stalked Libby for four months beforehand. And the idea that this was a last minute decision has been proven wrong. The girls were discussing it as early as Friday because people who knew the girls were talking about their upcoming trip in local bars that night. And it looks like Libby posted on her Instagram at some point that she was going to the bridge.

I suppose he must have known Abby was going to be there too, so he may have targeted her in a sense too. Instagram is the site that he was catfishing Libby on with that young man’s photo.

This whole idea that he went to that crowded bridge that afternoon with his full-blown murder kit just to haphazardly see if he could find female or two to kill is insane. Others say he was just there to kill anyone, even a man. That’s even more insane. Further, I’m wondering if he’s into killing women. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. He’s not a pedophile, but he could be a hebephile, a very common sexual orientation. After all, 2

13 and 14 is a bit young to be targeting females, but a number of serials have killed young teenage girls and women too because after all, teenage girls look like women! Face facts. Ted Bundy killed a 12 year old girl, but 12 year old girls are on the cusp of puberty and while they don’t look like women, they look enough like women that a lot of men are starting to find them “interesting.”

I believe Bundy also killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14, but he would never admit to that. He even implied in interviews that he had done some things that he would never admit to. Even for Ted Bundy, killing a little 8 year old girl was too low. Maybe not too low but just shameful. Bundy was a narcissist, a malignant narcissist. Perhaps he thought it was shameful to his reputation as the Greatest Serial Killer of All Time if he would admit to killing a little girl. It was a bridge too far.

This is fascinating because it implies that even the worst people of all think there are some things that are just beyond the pale.

Hitler was appalled by the mistreatment of animals. I guess he thought Jews and Slavs were below animals. And one of the worst Nazis of all, Goebbels, has a bit of a moral compass. In the early days of the Holocaust, they were just lining Jews up and shooting them with firing squads. Goebbels witnessed one of these shootings and he completely freaked out. He broke down in front of everyone, started crying, just carried on. And he decreed that there was to be no more of this or they needed to get away from that as quickly as possible.

The next step was not the gas chambers as everyone thinks. Instead it was “gas vans.” Jews were killed in these vans for a while before the Final Solution was agreed upon at the Wansee Conference in 1942 and they moved to the chambers in the name of efficiency but also because they wanted to kill people in as sterile of clean way as possible, in an almost antiseptic was hidden way the same way your cat is kindly quickly, efficiently and cruelly when it is taken to the vet for the last time.

Murder is murder but when you do it as cleanly as possible, it’s easier to rationalize it. If you murder in a cold and cruel way, it seems horrible as disgust sets in and it seems like you really did kill them. If you do it clean, in your mind you can make it seem that you didn’t really “kill” them in the same way as if you chopped them to pieces. Of course it makes no sense, but we are emotional creatures so we are not purely logical and our conscious and especially subconscious mind is “irrational” that can only be understood if we are using “emotional logic” instead of “pure logic” or the logic of Spock on Star Trek.

So they went to the gas chambers. But at first they were not burning the bodies. They were burying them in mass graves, especially at a few little known camps that were truly extermination camps such as Sobibor and Theresienstat.  All of these were in Poland. It is odd that Auschwitz is more famous than these extermination camps while Auschwitz was less exterminationist than these others. 1

After all, it was first and foremost a labor camp.  It sounds awful that 8

Anyway, Goebbels was at one of those extermination camps and he saw the mass graves where they had buried maybe 10,000’s on inmates. It had been raining and the bloating from the decaying corpses was so extreme owing to the rain and sheer number of the dead that the ground beneath them was literally rising up and falling as they were standing on it. The Earth was alive but in a terrible way.

Once again, Goebbels completely flipped out, got hysterical, started yelling and crying and said no more mass graves. This is how the ovens were added to the gas chambers. To eliminate dead bodies in a more efficient and especially less disgusting way. Once again if you put them in ovens, you can almost rationalize it away. All that’s left are ashes and it’s hard to see those are former humans. Your mind can always tell you, “Oh those are just ashes, that’s all. Not formerly human corpses.” Again this is not logical, but according to emotional logic, it makes complete sense.

It’s interesting that three of the most evil men of the 20th Century actually had a moral compass. A very tiny and meager one for sure, but some things were beyond the pale even for them. One wonders if there has ever been a human with no moral compass at all if one such a human is even possible. Even wild animals have moral compasses. A female mountain lion won’t kill her cubs. A male mountain lion won’t kill his mate.

It’s also interesting that if the kill people and get rid of bodies in as cold, efficient, sterile and maybe democratic way as possible, the mind can rationalize that you’re not “really” killing people and disappearing bodies.

Alt Left: Two Different Types of Sexual Orientations – Gender/Sex and Age

There are different types of sexual orientations.

Sex/Gender Orientation

First is the orientation to persons or objects of attraction. Heterosexuals are primarily attracted to the opposite sex. Homosexuals are mostly attracted to their own sex. Bisexuals have significant attraction to both sexes.

Sexual Orientation and Sexual Behavior Are Not Synonymous

Sexual orientation is somewhat independent of behavior. Heterosexuals are quite capable of homosexual behavior, and many homosexuals engage in some heterosexual sex. Bisexuals may be behaviorally heterosexual or homosexual for long periods of time.

Orientation is what you are primarily attracted to – behavior is who you have sex with. In cases such as ancient Sparta, the two did not line up very well at least for teenage boys and young men.

Age Orientation

The second is age orientation.

Teleophilia

Most people, including me believe it or not, are teleophiles – that is, they are primarily attracted to mature persons. This usually means age 16+ because 16-17 year old adolescents are almost indistinguishable from adults in terms of their sexual features.

As the age of the person declines below age 16, teleophilic attraction tends to decline, however, all men still have measurable but much lower attraction even to girls aged 7-13. Some studies show that normal male attraction to girls declines steadily from age 16 to a very low level at age 7, and below age 7, there is no measurable attraction. This is probably correct and any man with significant attraction to very small girl children below 7 is no doubt quite pedophilic.

Girls still have female features of women, especially after age 7, and these features grow more prominent from age 7-12. Around age 10-11, most girls develop very long legs; in short, the legs of a woman. Normal males are attracted to girls this age mostly to the extent that they like their legs, since their legs look like an adult woman’s.

The more a minor looks and acts like a woman, the more attractive she will be a normal male. The more a minor looks and acts like a child, the less attractive she will be to a normal man. The opposite is true for a man with a pedophilic or hebephilic attraction.

For instance, letting little girls under age 13 wear makeup is probably a very bad idea because many normal men say that when little girls put on makeup, they start to look a lot more attractive to men. I can concur that this occurs. It also makes me very uncomfortable. A little girl is not a sexual creature, as she has no sex drive per se. Why sexualize a non-sexual creature? Childhood for both boys and girls below age 13 should be sexless. Normal children have little or no interest in sex.

Note that since teleophiles react maximally in the lab to 16-17 year old girls and most Americans consider such a strong attraction to be “pedophilia,” the remarkable conclusion is that the current feminist and social conservative hysteria about “pedophilia” means that 10

Ephebephilia

There are also ephebephiles like Jeffrey Epstein who are primarily attracted to girls age 15-19 or mid to late adolescents. Girls this age often have significant to fully developed adult features and bodies. Psychiatry has decided that ephebephilia is completely normal, therefore, there was nothing wrong with Epstein psychologically.

Epstein was not a pedophile in any sense of the word despite continuous descriptions of him in this way. Nevertheless, most men are probably not ephebephiles.

Women reach their peak attractiveness to normal men at age ~23. Men reach their peak attractiveness to women at age ~27. As you can see, women prefer their men a bit older and men prefer their women a bit younger. This seems to be a natural tendency of the human race as even the Romans remarked up this fact of human nature.

A man can still have a child when there is snow on the roof (when his hair is White), but a woman’s time is short.

– Roman saying of unknown provenance.

Hebephilia

Hebephiles are primarily attracted to pubertal persons around the age 12-15. All attraction is gone by age 16. Hebephilia is quite a bit more normal than you might think. 2

In most cases there is strong attraction to mature females too, so most of these men never act on this attraction as adults. Hebephilic attraction is generally antisocial in adults, whereas attraction to mature persons is pro-social. Faced with strong prosocial and antisocial attractions, most probably focus on the prosocial attraction and repress or suppress the antisocial one.

Considering that idiot popular culture (9

It is important to note that hebephilia per se is not considered to be a mental disorder in any way. In other words, it is quite normal. Nevertheless acting on it is a moral and legal problem but probably not a psychological one as in mental health we don’t deal with crime as mental abnormality per se. We are only concerned if people are crazy or disordered or not.

Pedophilia

Pedophiles have a primary attraction to children under age 13. It is quite common.

Note that we don’t even bother to call all men who react maximally to children under 13 pedophiles! We would have to call 2

Here probably even more than with hebephiles, most of this 1

In contrast to hebephilia, pedophilia is considered a mental disorder if it is upsetting to the person or if they have acted on their urges with children under 13. It is interesting to note that pedophiles who have never molested children and are not bothered by their attraction are considered to be completely normal psychologically.

The US and the West May Have Some of the Lowest Rates of Verbal, Psychological, Physical, and Sexual Abuse of Children

Fine, so why are we making such a big stink about it then?

The rest of the world does not care about child abuse.

You mean child sexual abuse or the rest of it, physical abuse, verbal abuse, psychological abuse?

I do have a feeling that child molestation may be quite common in the rest of the world.

I have heard Indian women say that on reservations, “All Indian girls get molested.” A friend told me the same thing about Indians in Canada.

He also implied that all French Canadian girls get molested.

The notion that pedophilia and child molestation is a White man thing is a big lie made up by White-hating Blacks and anti-White racist woke types. You simply don’t hear of molestation in the ghetto because it’s ubiquitous. Black and Hispanic girls are twice as likely to be molested as White girls are. So much for the “White male molester” meme. I read a few articles on this, and the women were quite honest.  A common refrain was “All girls get molested in the ghetto.”

So we see once again very high levels of child molestation in impoverished non-White communities in the West such as ghetto Blacks and reservation Indians.

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We had an actual pedophile on here, and he had relocated to Mexico where he could get away with his behavior better. He posted on the comments about how he was molesting little girls. Probably some of the most shocking comments that ever showed up on this blog. The other commenters all jumped on him and beat him up badly, which was probably appropriate. I didn’t turn him in. He’s in Mexico. That’s not my country. Anyway, I’m not a cop. If police want to go investigate this guy, I’ll help them but I’m not into turning people in to the police. Fuck that.

Anyway this guy did have some interesting things to say. He is the first predatory child molester that I’ve ever conversed with, so his conversation was interesting because you never meet someone like that, and it’s hard to figure out what they are thinking.

In Mexico, he molested a 5 year old girl next door in the bathroom a couple of times. Her mother told her to quit hanging around with him and looked at him suspiciously.

Then he molested a six year old girl next door a couple of times. If you must know, he got these girls to jerk him off in the bathroom, which is probably fairly low on the damage scale. Same thing. Mother said quit hanging around with him and looked at him suspiciously.

He implied that it was basically normal for poor and lower middle class Mexican girls to get molested at some point. It’s just something that happens to girls there and women in those classes just figure it’s something all women go through as girls. Apparently most of them just get over it or accommodate it.

I don’t like the idea of this happening (I’d rather it did not happen at all), but where it’s rife, a lot of women probably just adjust. He said it is so common among these classes that if you go to the police, they just shrug their shoulders and say, “Keep the girl away from him.” Prosecutions are rare, apparently because it’s so common. So most women don’t even bother going to the cops if their girls get molested.

He went to another city where he met some runaway prostitutes who were living in a house together. He told them he was a pedophile, and they said, “No problem,” totally nonchalantly and brought an 8 year old girl out of the house for him. They acted like they did this as a special request pretty regularly. They went under a bridge. She got him off. I don’t want to go into details here but it was fairly similar to what happened to the girls in the bathroom.

The 8 year old girl appeared to be into it, perhaps because she’s come to enjoy it for some odd reason. Perhaps it was fun for her. Girls that age have no sex drive, but perhaps they can learn to enjoy sex like playing on a playground, chasing around with other kids, or swinging on a swing, on that level. I still don’t approve even if they enjoy it. I’m just trying to theorize why they enjoy these activities with no sex drive.

But this got me to thinking. How common is this in the 3rd World? Mexico is heading out of the 3rd world into the 1st. If it’s that bad there, think of how bad it might be in the real 3rd World?

I’m wondering how common this is elsewhere. I’m told that in poor Filipino households, molestation of girls is rampant, possibly even taking the form of rape. Nothing much happens because these slums are such hellholes of crime and despair anyway.

I assume that verbal and psychological abuse is simply normal and legal in most of the world. God knows physical abuse of children may well be too. A lot of tribal people beat their kids pretty bad for no good reason. The kids seem to grow up fine anyway. Thing is in those societies, it’s normal to get beaten as a kid. No one thinks anything of it. So if you say you got beaten as a kid and it fucked you up, everyone looks at you like you’re nuts.

The commenter may be correct that in the rest of the world, psychological and verbal abuse of kids is probably almost normal, and even physical abuse is probably quite common. Remember back to our parents generation? How many men in that generation told you that their Dad used to beat their ass up regularly? Lots of men in that generation got their asses beat by their fathers. I don’t approve of it, but the WW2 generation seemed to come out ok.

I’ve dealt with sexual abuse above. I have a feeling that in the 3rd World, this is perhaps way more common than we want to think.

I think what you are getting at here is that levels of psychological, verbal, certainly physical and definitely sexual abuse are more proscribed here than anywhere else on Earth. We’ve declared war on all of these things. Who else has? No one.

So the levels of such things in the US may well be very low by world standards. Still the scolds won’t shut up about it and go on and on about the “child abuse catastrophe” now somehow morphing normal late adolescent consensual sex into 18 year old “grown men” “molesting” and “raping” 17 year old “little girls” (equivalent to toddlers I guess) who “cannot consent and are therefore always raped every time they have sex (!!),” all teenage girls who get fucked by adult men (the # must be very high) have been “molested” like little girls, and all of them are now somehow damaged for the rest of their lives!!

 

Effects of Child Molestation on Victims and Motivations of Perpetrators in Different Types of Molestation Are Still Largely Unknown

Jason: The human mind is tricky. We don’t know what really harms someone. I do think verbal abuse does, but so much of that is people who have it coming.

I think child sexual abuse is very bad because it breaks trust with kids. I think what really is going on is that the guy doing it is someone they don’t like. It’s kind of like when men are cowards and women despise and henpeck them.

Nonetheless, I am not advocating legal child exploitation of any form. I mean, even if the guy is a trusting guy there are certainly limits of what he should be able to do to the child – JUST BECAUSE.

I hate to say this. I think some people who molest kids really love them. And nobody believes this but most pedophiles truly do love kids. Some don’t and are harmful to them, but if you spend any time studying pedophiles as I have, including reading on their forums, you will see that a lot of them absolutely adore children, especially the girl lovers.

Many say that they would be happy just hugging and cuddling with little girls. I suppose if they just kept it to that, I’m trying to figure out how it might be harmful, but there’s always the risk that they might escalate.

I’m not so deep into this insane New Prudery to think that adults hugging and cuddling with kids, especially if it is a parent figure, is going to harm them somehow.

I have heard of two cases of molestation in the family where both parents molested and had sex with the kids, and I did think these parents loved their kids. The kids went along with it and seemed to love it too. I’ve heard about a family where the uncles and cousins molested and had sex with the girls, and the girls seem to be into this too.

These are called Loving Families, and believe it or not, I have now met three different women who were members of these weird things called Loving Families.

Two were 18 years old.

One was 18 years old, the oldest of three sisters. The parents had  molested her and were currently molesting or having sex with all of her sisters. The parents started them at age 5. The girls also had sex with the fathers’ friends. I talked to this woman from a far off land for a little while until she send me some highly illegal material (you can guess what it was).

I blocked her immediately but I didn’t report her to the website. I’m softhearted and she was very kind and sweet to me, so why ruin her life? She lived thousands of miles away, and everyone seemed to be having a good time, no matter how weird it was.

Quite some time ago, I talked to an 18 year old girl from Pennsylvania who was part of one of these families where the uncles and male cousins molested the girls. She had two sisters, one 9 and one 14. I think they started her at age 8. I didn’t turn her in. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves.

Thing is when they start them early like that and make it a family affair, I hate to say it but the girls seem to enjoy it. Perhaps they wrap everyone in to a secrecy pact. You tell the police and your Mom and Dad and maybe your sisters, cousins, and uncles go to prison for the rest of their lives. Who wants to do that to their own family?

I met another one, a 24 year old woman. Her mother and father had molested and had sex with her since, yep, age 5. She continued to have sex with the stepfather. She was the one who introduced me to the phrase Loving Families. I didn’t turn her in either. She seemed to have enjoyed this and didn’t seem to be harmed by it.

I have no idea what to do about this extreme weirdness. I don’t want to live in a society where most kids grow up in crazy families like this. I don’t want it to be the norm where most kids get molested. But the kids in these families do not seem to be being harmed, and even as adults, they carry on. This whole thing is beyond my paygrade, I’m afraid. I’m also wondering how common this weird stuff is.

I haven’t any idea about molestation outside the family. I know two women who got molested by pedophiles. Both were 50 years old and had completely gotten over it and perhaps had been over it for a very long time. They had a “so what” attitude about it. They told me that the pedophiles were pleasant enough. It wasn’t an act of hatred, contempt, cruelty, or evil. Perhaps many are tender and kind to the kids. But that doesn’t make it an ok thing to do!

You see, pedophiles actually think that what they do with kids is good for the kids. It’s not true in most cases, but this is probably what they have to believe to continue to have this orientation. Anyway, it is part of the “package” that comes along with pedophilia – the notion that little kids are not harmed by sex with adults.

I can’t think of any reason we adults should be molesting the little children. It’s always going to go on, so we should try to lessen the harm of it in any way we can. I can’t see how it could be a good idea to let adults do this to kids legally though. This behavior would explode. I don’t care whether the kids get harmed or not. I simply don’t want to live in a world where getting molested is a normal part of children’s growing up processes.

I think a lot of the family stuff with the fathers molesting the girls is pretty abusive, and the girls don’t seem to be into it, but it’s not true in all cases.

I knew a woman who was molested by an older teenage brother starting at age 5. She didn’t seem to be harmed by it, and she was very apologetic and protective towards him. He’s now a relatively famous millionaire real estate developer with his own mansion and private helicopter, and he appears in the society pages regularly. And he’s virtually a child molester!

I know a woman, aged 56, who was molested by her father and most definitely was not happy about it. She was still angry about it many decades later.

I met another women who had been molested by her father starting at age 5, believe it or not. And she claimed to have completely enjoyed it.

I met a woman from an African country whose boyfriend was her father. They had been together since age 11, and she was 23 now. She was working as a prostitute. Apparently she was very much in love with her father.

It’s obvious that there are girls who get molested and somehow or other enjoy it and they continue to feel this way far into adulthood. It’s a toxic issue and obviously it can’t be discussed. It might be nice to do some research to see how common this reaction is though.

Probably because I hang out on porn blogs and in porn chatrooms, I’ve met a number of women who had positive experiences with this sort of thing, but maybe my sample is biased because of where I meet these women. It’s not uncommon at all for women who have porn blogs to say they enjoyed being molested. Some have even turned them into a theme for their blogs. The theme is “I was molested and I liked it.” The porn posts tend to be a lot of older man very young woman stuff, and the men are often decades older. They often have captions labeling the older men as fathers and the young women as daughters, so there’s an incest tie-in.

You certainly hear about a lot of girls getting harmed by Daddy or Uncle molesting them, but I simply haven’t met many of them.  I’d love to talk to some to get another perspective. If you know any women who had this reaction and want to talk about it, send them my way, please.

In a lot of these cases, the father or other men molesting the little girls are not pedophiles, and the molestation seems to be part of a larger pattern of abuse, verbal, psychological, physical, and then the sexual gets tossed in too.

There was a very famous child porn case in the last couple of decades involving a bodybuilder father who had custody of his little girl who made videos of him having sex with her. The father said that he and the daughter were “having a love affair.”

I know what was in the movies, but for God’s sake, I’m not going to tell you, and Hell no, I haven’t watched them. I can’t even remember the names of the videos. They are all named after the girl who was in them and they are quite famous.

I did watch a perfectly G-rated clip from one of those movies. It shows the girl sitting in a chair for 5 minutes or so. She may be answering questions. Actually that clip really disturbed me because she was so little, and you knew what was going to happen later. She’s very young in the tape, maybe 9-11  years old, and that’s most what makes the tape so shocking and upsetting.

The girl became very famous because the movies got distributed all over the world. Supposedly 5 million people watched them. In the videos people said you that could see that this girl really did love her father. Well, she probably did love her father. At the time.

Later on this girl got teased all through junior high and high school about being a world-famous child porn star, and it got to her after a while. As a woman she changed her mind and decided that she had been molested after all, and that it was not cool. She developed the typical post-molestation symptoms of guilt, shame, confusion, etc.

She sued 1,5oo men who downloaded her videos for everything they had. She took one man for millions. People on the Net were criticizing her for being out for money and claimed that she was obviously enjoying the sex with her father at the time. Sure she was, but she wasn’t enjoying it later on, and the “later on” is the important part. I’m not particularly troubled that she took these guys for a lot of money.  She did get harmed after all.

Actually this “change of mind followed by psychological harm in adulthood” happens all the time with this sort of thing, especially with teenage girls.

Alt Left: Regret Rape, Second Thoughts Abuse, Etc.

When kids are molested, most of the time they are not traumatized. This is another giant myth. A woman psychologist wrote a book called The Trauma Myth about this very fact. She found that only

The thing about child molestation is the kid generally just goes along with it.

If they don’t, it’s child rape, and that is not common in typical molestation cases. This creates quite a scene and sooner or later others in the house will find out. In Satanic Abuse Rings, yes, the children are absolutely raped. Child rape is more of a stranger crime by a misophile and often involves kidnapping and the use of a weapon. It can be extremely harmful for the child, much more harmful than run of the mill molestation, and the damage can definitely extend into adulthood.

The general emotion that molested kids feel is confusion. This is because, yep, it feels good. Little girls are capable of orgasm from an early age even if they have no sex drive, so sexual stimulation can be very pleasurable to them. I knew a woman who got molested at age 8 by a church youth leader. She told me,

It’s confusing because it feels good, but then it’s wrong.

The girls often enjoy the physical aspects of the molestation, and the fact that they enjoyed it is the cause of a lot of guilt later on.  Forums for adults molested as children are full of women feeling guilty over this, and this is one of the main problems to be dealt with in therapy later on.

People who were molested do tend to feel guilt. They often feel that the molestation was their fault and that they were somehow to blame for it.

Adults molested as children also feel a lot of shame over the experience.

These are the three dominant emotions that these kids feel: confusion, guilt, and shame.

Often the full effects of the molestation are not felt until adulthood when the adult begins to think over the child abuse and have second thoughts about it. Whereas younger people up to university age are often apathetic or noncommittal about being molested, as they get older, it often starts to bother them. They start thinking that the molestation was not ok after all, that a very  bad thing was done to them, etc. And then, yes, the psychological harm occurs.

Actually this happens all the time, especially with teenage girls.

In days of old, teenage girls had sex with men, mostly young men but sometimes older men, and not a thing ever came of any of it. I lived all through the 1970’s and never heard of one teenage girl being specifically harmed by having sex with an adult man. I suppose if there was coercion involved, she might not like it, but even in the Roman Polanski case where he actually raped her, she got over it right away, doesn’t care about it now, and doesn’t even want him prosecuted.

Teenage girls back then were no more likely to be harmed by sex with a man than with sex with a teenage boy. There was this cultural idea that teenage girls having sex with men was not specifically harmful in and of itself, so most teenage girls simply consumed that message and decided that they were not harmed.

In cultures all over the world before 1900 and even in the last century to today, teenage girls often married men. In fact that’s been the way of mankind for almost all of our existence. No specific harm was ever reported to the teenage girls from any of this, and I have been over all the old records.

Before 1900, there was no notion that teenage girls were harmed by these relationships. In societies that allowed this sort of thing, no specific harm was ever recorded from teenage girls having sex with men. I have also studied anthropology extensively, and I have never found a single society anywhere on Earth that used to allow this sort of thing but gave it up because it harmed the teenage girls.

And even in the US through the 1970’s, this was the case.

Now, where the teenage girls were manipulated, abused, or there was a lot of sleazy lying and coercion involved by the men, sure, the teenage girls will get harmed by these relationships, but teenage boys do this to teenage girls too, and men to all of this to adult women. Females who are manipulated, abused, lied to, cheated on, etc. with the use of sleazy and coercive techniques in relationships with males seem to get damaged. Age has nothing to do with it. It doesn’t matter if it’s a teenage girl or a woman or a teenage boy or a man.

Anyway, nowadays there is this attitude that every time a man has sex with a teenage girl, a “child rape” or “child molestation” of all things, has occurred. The teenage girl never had sex with the man – she’s always just abused no matter how much she was fond of or loved the man. It’s always harmful to the teenage girl, even if the man was 18 and the girl was 17. The vast majority of American idiots actually believe this nonsense.

This is backed up by all sorts of non-facts such as:

“Teenage girls are ‘children’ and hence are not able to consent to sex.”

Prove it. Why can’t boys consent either or can they? If they can’t consent, how about arresting the teenage girls who “take advantage of”, “rape”, “abuse”, and “molest” these poor horny as Hell teenage boys? How can teenage girls consent with teenage boys but not with men?

“Teenage girls’ brains are not fully developed yet.”

Neither are teenage boys’ brains. Brains don’t finish developing until age 27, so let’s ban sex til then, right?

“It is an inherent imbalance of power, and all imbalances of power are abusive and harmful.”

Prove it. Life is all about power imbalances. Many unbalanced relationships have been recorded all through the history of man, and they were not harmful at all.

“It is inherently abusive and harmful for the teenage girl.”

Prove it again. Why would it be? And wouldn’t people have gotten rid of it a long time ago or at least talked about how bad it was if this were true?

“It robs the teenage girls/young women of their childhood/teen years/youth.”

This BS gets extended all the way into adulthood to where a woman who spends her twenties with older men supposedly “destroys her youth” – how this occurs is never explained. It’s not much true for teenage girls either. Why the teen and young adult years must be spent amongst one’s idiotic peers is never brought up.

Obviously the girl or even young woman is going to mature much faster with a man than with those her age. He is giving her a jump-start on life by teaching her all about life, wisdom, mental health, personal growth, social skills, and maturity/immaturity, not to mention the wealth of knowledge he will impart to her.

It is beyond me how her peer friends who have to blindly tumble through these tunnels on their own with their clumsy peers and take much longer to figure these things out (assuming they learn them at all) are somehow better off than this girl or young woman who is getting a massive jump start on life with an older man.

The upshot is that teenage girls weren’t harmed by this sex in the past, and they’re not harmed by it now. There’s nothing specifically harmful about this type of sex for humans. Any harm that occurs is socially constructed.

So you tell teenage girls that this sex harms them. They go ahead and have it, find it’s a lot of fun, and they’re confused. Then they become adults, and they think back and get regret-raped and “realize that it was really abuse all along.” Then they get some truly insipid time-bombed trauma from this new realization that it really wasn’t fun after all and really it was abuse and rape all along. A lot of completely unnecessary and uncalled for damage then results. I’m sure all of this manufactured pathology is great for therapists though. More crazy people means more business.

If you get involved with any legal teenage girl as an older man, you really have to be careful of this nowadays. If you get with any legal girl under 18, there’s a very high chance of this bullshit happening, so be forewarned.

I am a bit worried myself that some of these legal teenage girls (18 and 19) I dated recently are going to get regret-raped later on from the brief affairs they had with me and will come back to me later railing about how I destroyed their life no matter how much fun and pleasure we had when we were together.

The point is simple. If something is not inherently harmful (as most things are):

If you tell people it’s not harmful, no one gets harmed because they consume the cultural message that it’s not harmful and feel like idiots if they tell people they got harmed by something that’s not harmful.

If you tell people it is harmful, many people who would have been unharmed in the past now get automagically harmed simply because they were told it was harmful, so they essentially create harm and damage out of the experience and impose it upon their psyche.

Bottom line is that a lot of “interpersonal harm” is simply socially constructed, or in many cases, simply “made up” altogether. Not a whole lot of things are scientifically proven to be inherently damaging to the psyche.

It sounds cruel, but in many cases if you got harmed by some experiences, frankly it is because you chose to experience it as harmful because you wanted to see it that way. Because you needed this to be harmful, you deliberately created a lot of harm from the incident (basically simply “made it up”) and then imposed it on your psyche because you needed to feel hurt by this for whatever reason.

In that sense most of us humans probably have a masochistic element to our psyches which is much more pronounced in females than in males, as if that weren’t obvious to anyone.

The Dangerous Myth That All Pedophiles Believe

As I mentioned in a previous post, most if not all pedophiles believe that kids are horny as Hell, want to have sex all the time and especially want  to have sex with adults. They claim all sorts of evidence in favor of this notion. Obviously, considering their orientation, this is a convenient thing for them to believe, right?

I read this a while back and was very dubious about it, so I did a lot of research to see if what  the pedos were saying was true – mostly, do little girls really have a sex drive and come onto men?

I didn’t have any personal data of my own. There was none from my childhood, but girls didn’t like me then anyway, not that I cared since most of them had cooties anyway.

After age 13 and into adulthood, I had lots of contacts with kids. I worked in schools for over a decade. I taught school for six years, all grades. I’ve spent a lot more time around kids than most people have. In that time, some teenage girls definitely came onto me. Some even openly propositioned me right in front of the whole class. But those were teenage girls with the full-blown sex drives of women, as different from little girls as lions are from tigers.

Once a 12 year old girl who I had befriended the previous year in my job at an elementary school literally propositioned me for sex in a park. I turned her down of course. But based on a few things I gathered from our conversation, she was also pubertal and past menarche, so she doesn’t count.

I would think that if little girl children really wanted to have sex with us men, I would have experienced it by now. I’ve experienced more than enough teenage girls and grown women who acted horny around me. If girls did this regularly too, I should have gotten it from them. Also, I’ve been around far more kids than 9

So based on my own life, I was thinking this is pedophile bullshit. But I had to find out. So I did some work.

It was very hard to find the data (probably due to pedo hysteria), but what little I came up with said no, little girls have no sex drive whatsoever, and nor do little boys for that matter, and neither should they, either of them.

And I don’t have any data, but I don’t even think little girls get wet, although it’s an interesting question but I’m terrified to ask anyone about it. Imagine trying to ask someone a question about that! Better yet, try getting funding for research into that question! Good luck!

Four months before menarche, there is a massive increase in the capacity of the vagina for lubrication. This is an essential part of the female physical sex drive along with admoninal tingles, hardened nipples, flushed cheeks, rapid breathing, and the rest of the ill-defined soup that no one understands, not even women themselves.

I’m sure little girls have discharge. All females do. Chafing is a thing. To prevent that, the vagina likes to be bit wet. To test it, sometime when you are with a naked woman (if you ever get lucky enough to get with one), sneak your finger into her vagina for as long as she lets you.

Don’t be soy and ask permission. Be a man, dammit! Just fucking do it! If she doesn’t like it, she’ll stop you. You will find that even if she is not turned on at all, it is a bit wet. That’s its natural state. I just figured this out for the first time a couple of years ago, believe it or not. The vagina likes to keep itself a bit wet, and it also engages in constant self-cleaning processes, and both are related. But discharge isn’t lubrication. They’re two completely different things.

I think this delusion – that little kids are horny as Hell and are just dying to have sex with adults, no doubt especially with pedophiles themselves, must be one of the main delusions that go along with pedophilia. I guess it’s hard to be a pedophile if you realize, correctly, that little kids have no interest at all in having sex with you. Gay pedophiles believe the same thing. They insist that little boys are horny as Hell and get erections all the time. I sure wasn’t and I sure didn’t. Some even say that little  boys can ejaculate. There’s no way that’s true.

I suppose the truism here is that people believe whatever they need to believe to make their view of the world (which includes their sexual orientation) work and be logical. It’s not much fun to realize that your basic view of the world, your ontology, your whole set-up and outward orientation towards reality, is a Goddamned gigantic lie. It’s such a miserable thought that it’s almost enough to make you go down and purchase a gun and buy it that very day. We simply can’t live with such utter futility. So we make up whatever lies we have to make up to make it seem like our existence is rational and not doomed and senseless.

Perhaps it’s how we get through the day. Perhaps if we don’t do that, we simply don’t get through the day. And when it’s all said and done, the one thing that remains about all the rest is blown to dust is that whatever we need to do to make it to another day is about the most precious possession we have.

A Good Deed Never Goes Unpunished

Greg Rambo: Has Highbrow ever taken on the subject of Scientology? They seem to think that whatever you accuse them of, that means you’re guilty of the accusation yourself.

I don’t know much about it.I would like to look into it. I have a book on it and I dipped into it, but you know me. I’m reading like 200 books at any given time probably.

I’m running into this “What you accuse other people of, that’s what you are.” It’s really upsetting to me.

I stumbled across a child porn pic the other day on Queera I mean Quora of all places.

Ok, the pic was this little girl on a bed. Who knows, maybe she’s five years old? Bare-ass naked. Not necessarily a big deal. Humans are animals and when we take off our clothes, we are naked. That’s called our natural state. There’s nothing obscene or evil about some kid with their clothes off. It’s a perfectly natural state for a young human being to be in. Not evil at all. You think it’s evil every time some kid takes their clothes off to take a bath or a shower? What’s in God’s name is wrong with you?

Anyway, she’s on all fours. With her ass to the camera. Peering over her shoulder and looking at the camera. And, yeah, her legs are spread a bit. So it was pretty gross and it hit me like a kick in the stomach. That pic is illegal because it is probably posed, somewhat uncomfortable, pretty unnatural, an unlikely position for her to have gotten into on her own, and, yeah, involves lascivious display of the genitalia. Dost test. Bingo. Illegal as all Hell.

Below that he had two posts which are instructive for showing us how these guys really think.

The first post is a fantasy of his that I doubt took place. He describes graphically how when he was 12 years old, he had sex with his eight year old sister. It was pretty explicit and I could reprint that here legally, but I won’t because it’s gross. Most 12 year old boys have not reached semenarche yet, so I doubt if the story is true. More likely a fantasy. Then he says something about how he wants to do this to an eight year old girl right now. This is typical thinking for these guys.

Next was a comment about how lots of men want to have sex with teenage girls (no shit), and then he adds that lots of men even want to have sex with pre-pubertal little girls (probably not a whole lot, but also probably way more than you want to think). He then added that a lot of little girls are horny as Hell, get very wet, and are dying to have sex with adults. If you spend any time around these guys, you hear this over and over. Fantasies about wanting a little girl to come onto them. Endless testimonies about how little girls are horny as Hell and come onto men all the time.

I got so mad that I called up the hotline and reported the sonofabitch. No good deed goes unpunished. My brother heard about and called up my Mom and told her, “Bob looks at child porn.” My Mom was and is absolutely hysterical about this. “Don’t go to those websites!” Except Queera is a just a regular website like Facebook. Is Facebook a child porn site? Queera doesn’t even allow real porn or even erotica.

Some sick fuck pedophile (the real kind) put that pic on his profile along with two other completely pro-pedophilia (the real kind) posts. I’m sure that all of my enemies who read this are going to run around shouting that Lindsay admitted that he looks at child porn.

Look what happens when you try to do the right thing. You run across some sick shit on the Net, so, like a good citizen, you report it to the authorities. The fact that you did this makes you a proven pedophile and a consumer of child porn.

I swear every day I hate people a little bit more than the day before.

Alt Left: What’s CP and What’s Child Erotica or Harmless Material?: Legal Dilemmas of Child Pornography Law

There’s legal or softcore child porn (CP) and illegal or hardcore CP. Most people are idiots and don’t know the difference, including this fool who reported a bunch of perfectly legal sites.

Bottom line is creepy pictures of little girls don’t cut it. There’s plenty of that out there. It’s hard to describe but it’s pretty little girls often in some rather skimpy clothes. They are often posing seductively and sometimes they have their tongue hanging out of the side of their mouth. Gross, huh? Sure, but it’s all completely legal.

If they have their clothes on, it’s pretty much legal. Nevertheless, there have been some recent very bad rulings that found that even pics of clothed little girls could be CP. These rulings were very bad because just looking at the rulings, it would be very hard to say exactly what is legal and what is illegal.

Even nudes of little girls are often legal if they look natural enough. It’s disturbing but it’s quite legal. There are nudist sites all over the Net with pics of kids, teenagers, and adults bare-ass naked.  All completely legal.

To be illegal it has to appear posed, unnatural, uncomfortable, a position the child was unlikely to get into on their own, and most importantly, must display lascivious display of the genitalia. This is called the Dost Test. The Dost Test has never even been litigated all the way to the Supreme Court, so we don’t have any idea how constitutional it is. It resulted from a case in California that laid out exactly what CP had to contain in order to be illegal and not simply child erotica, which is 10

That’s for children’s pics with no sex involved. Once you get sex involved, it’s a whole new ballgame, and any photos of kids having sex, either with themselves (masturbation photos are illegal), each other, or with adults, are absolutely illegal. They can’t even be posed with an adult looking like they are about ready to have sex. I could describe pics like that I saw and reported, but I don’t want to gross you out.

CP cartoons (including manga and hentai) and 3D are mostly legal. In some places like Germany they are illegal. In other places like Japan they are completely legal. In the US, it’s mixed. Apparently it’s illegal to create them but it’s not illegal to possess them, as if that makes sense. The clothed models have been a mess ever since the terrible Black Cat Scans case. In that case, the men who created the website went to prison, but the 25 million who went to the site and downloaded the pics got off scot free.

It’s generally considered a miscarriage of justice, especially because when those men, who happened to be of a certain (((type))), made that site, they checked out the law and figured that the site was completely legal. And it was. But after the site had been up a few years, the government decided absolutely criminally to try to redefine CP to include the Black Cat Scans which had previously been excluded. So those guys got blindsided. It’s as if spitting on the sidewalk has always been legal. So you spit on the sidewalk from time to time.

One day the Feds decide to reinterpret some vague law called “Antisocial Behavior” to include “Spitting on the Sidewalk,” although that act had never been included before. So you get taken to court and the Feds make the case that under their new interpretation of the Antisocial Behavior law, they now include Spitting on the Sidewalk, though it was always legal before. They try the case and some hack judge convicts you for a crime you weren’t even aware was illegal.

Bottom line is you can possess all the clothed model pics you want to (But why would you want to?) but I guess you can’t make websites putting them up there and charging people to see them. I guess.

Clothed models are usually little girls around pubertal age (11-13) dressed up in some pretty dirty clothes (like lingerie) and posed in some pretty dirty positions (guess). They’re creepy as all get out, but it’s not CP. Most of the girls were from impoverished families in rural Russia. In every case, their mothers got them involved in the modeling.

A number of the girls got followed up and by 18-20, almost all of them had married the local rural Russian thug and already had at least one kid. Some were single Moms already. There was an uproar when the men went to prison. 20-40 former models all made videos testifying to the fact that they were not harmed at all by this modeling and how well the photographer had treated them.

The photographer had treated all of the girls and their mothers very well and there had been no sexual behavior at all between him and the girls. The girls and their mothers were all very fond of him. The videos are still sitting up on Youtube if you are interested. It’s a pretty sorry case all around.

Central to weird CP theory is that CP is the portrayal of a crime and hence is illegitimate. Except shooting clothed model pics isn’t a crime, so strike that one out.

Next is the argument that the girls are harmed by being photographed even if there is no sex involved. This applies to pics of girls alone nude and posed in various ways. Merely by getting posed that way and  having  photos taken and certainly if they know the photos are on the Net for anyone to see is enough to cause harm. That’s an interesting argument.

But for the clothed models, the photographs were basically legal, the girls were clothed, and no girl was harmed by getting pics taken of her.

Where’s the crime?

Next we see how CP law keeps creeping upward and upward to encompass more and more things.

No crime? No matter. Girls not harmed at all and quite willing? No matter.

Because a brand new idea has been thrown out. The concept of a record of a crime and harm to the girls is dead because now we have new reasons!

The new reasons say that “CP” is bad even if there is no crime, no girls were harmed because the material is being used by pedophiles to masturbate to. Which I guess is evil or something. This is how they roped in the cartoons and the 3D stuff. No crime of course. And no harm of course. Hell, there are not even any real humans to be victims of a crime or to be harmed! The things being victimized by crime and harmed are pictures, drawings,  and 3D graphics. They’re not even real people! They’re completely fake!

But now they’re illegal too because they turn pedophiles on. That seems a dubious reason to make something illegal.

How bout if a man takes photos of boys walking to and from school?

How about a man who orders a video of little girls during majorette exercizes?

And how about if these men are pedophiles who use these perfectly harmless photographs to masturbate to pedo fantasies? So what? What’s wrong with that? But, guess what? Feds (FBI jerkoffs) have arrested men for possessing photos they took of boys walking to school and for ordering videos of girls doing majorette exercizes.

Because pedos were using them to jerk off. That misinterpretation of the law seems very wrong, sorry. That’s absurd. Also, you are arresting men for thought crimes. After all, the photos and videos are only illegal because of the thoughts that go through these men’s heads when they look at them.

Ridiculous. If I look at those same videos (not sure why I would but anyway) I would most certainly not experience sexual fantasies about either the girls or the boys. So I get to possess this material because it doesn’t turn me on (because I don’t have illegal thoughts), whereas these pedos go to prison for possessing the same material, apparently because they have illegal thoughts while looking at the material.

Back to the female who got solo photos of her taken as a child. What if the female is not aware that her pics are out there? People are looking at them and she hasn’t a clue? How is this automagically harming her? Osmosis? Via another dimension? Some psychic mechanism. Clue me. She’s not being harmed by the people looking at her pics.

Another argument is that even if the female is not aware her pics are out there, the mere memory of her having those pics taken as a girl is going to continue to harm her, assuming she even remembers such things. That’s a better argument,  but that harm is going to take place whether the pics went up in flames and are gone or whether they are in 10,000 places on the Net, right?

Als,o believe it or not, I met a woman who was molested and later had statutory rape committed against her by her uncle and his friends from ages 12-17. They took videos of the whole thing. She has reconciled herself to what was originally a trauma by deciding that this was fun and it turns her on.

She’s actually looking for the videos now, which seems a bit dangerous. Well, there’s one woman who had pics taken at age 12 and doesn’t care. Furthermore, she presents an interesting case. Yes, the videos portray a crime. Sure, she was legal from 16-17 so all this sex was legal at that point. But shooting videos of it wasn’t. She was still underage and although she can consent to sex, she can’t consent to making porn, which is probably a good idea.

We need an 18 to do porn law because as soon as we start lowering that number, the Net will be flooded with the newly legal girls. Now you can do porn at 17? Fine. Except in a week the damned Internet will be flooded with “17 year old girls doing hardcore porn!!!” Because pornographers have no basement on sleazy. They’ll go as low as you let them. I don’t particularly care about teenagers making this stuff consensually and people looking at it at home. But keep it off the damned Internet!

But the girl was going along with it quite happily, so one wonders what the big deal is. Further, the girl is not being “revictimized” by this videos being out there because by her own admission, she likes these videos.

I don’t know what to say. Considering her age, most of those videos could well be floating around anyway. After all, hardcore with 14-17 year old girls is said to be everywhere on the Net,  mostly unlabeled.  No one seems to care much. But the early stuff is creepy. I don’t want videos of grown men having sex with 12-13 year old girls legally floating around on the Net. I don’t care if she likes them. I don’t care if she didn’t get hurt and isn’t getting hurt by them. I just don’t want that crap out there on the Net. Maybe if you keep it your drive to yourself, it might be ok. But I don’t want that garbage floating around legally.

What about the case of creep shots and surreptitiously taken photos of little girls and teenage girls. That stuff’s out there too. In this case, the female doesn’t even know anyone took pics of her. Furthermore, she probably doesn’t even know if her pics are floating around. It’s really hard to make a case that she got harmed at all by some creep using a hidden camera. Sure it’s an invasion of privacy but the person doesn’t even know their privacy got invaded, so what of it? I guess it probably ought to be legal but I’ll be the first to say the pics are creepy and uncool.

Alt Left: Just Banned from Reddit Again

I got banned from Reddit, so I went and got a new name and signed up under that one. I got banned almost immediately. So now I’ve been banned twice. But now I have a new name, ha ha. A Satanic feminist sub reported me to Mommy Reddit because I wrote a comment asking why it was wrong for adult men to fantasize about teenage girls. After all, 10

One study found that for 15 year old girls, it was 9

When females are lumped into a group called 13+, 10 normal straight men react maximally to this group.

Since men generally react maximally to teenage girls, what would be wrong with men fantasizing about the things that maximally arouse them? Isn’t that normal human behavior to fantasize about things that maximally arouse you?

For this the feminists banned me, wrote me a scathing email with orders not to contact them, and reported me to Mommy Reddit. The cucks and faggots at Reddit then banned me for something gay called “child sexualization” for stating some basic scientific facts along with a scientifically uncontroversial opinion.

Today I just banned again from another gay subreddit. I attacked feminists in the thread, and I accused people in the thread of being carceral liberals and police state liberals, which is exactly what almost every liberal in the US is. I’d argue that that’s what almost all US Communists are too. US Communists are so cucked and gay it’s pathetic. I doubt if there’s no real man among them.

Anyway, I got banned for “hate speech” for attacking feminists. According to Reddit homos, hate speech is:

No racist or sexist speech in comments or submissions. Also no abusive speech based on religion, sex/gender, or sexual orientation. These are not rules against swearing; they’re not rules against expressing political opinions.

I went back and looked at my comment. Nothing in there was racist or sexist at all or attacked any of their pet protected groups. In fact, I didn’t even mention anything having to do with race or sex and their protected groups anywhere in the post. The only thing I could figure out is that I attacked feminists.

Somehow feminists, a political formation in the form of a hate movement against men, is somehow in the category of race, sex, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. Obviously feminism is none of these things. The only thing I could figure out is that the mods on his sub are such faggots that they think attacking feminists is the same as attacking women.

Which brings me to another question. All liberal and left women  are feminists. 10

Which makes me think: How many rightwing men are conservatives mostly because they are sick and tired of faggotized and pussified left and liberal politics? How many of them are Republicans because the Republican Party is the party of the real men? That’s a dumb reason to vote Republican (What have Republicans ever done for us men?) but most people vote based on the most retarded reasons imaginable that have little or nothing to do with their lives.

How many women have gone rightwing because they like to act feminine? They’re girly girls who love being girly, feminine, and womanish? I’ve talked to many women who told me that the main thing they hate about feminism is how much feminists hate femininity.

It’s true. Feminists do hate femininity.  Of course they do. They’re dykes and manhaters or both, and they love nothing more than women with short hair wearing pants who are nearly indistinguishable from men. This is how women are supposed to look according to feminists. Like a goddamned butch bull dyke. I’m thinking maybe quite a few real women are voting right simply because they’re disgusted that leftwing women have turned into a bunch of man-hating dykes. They won’t throw you out of the left for being a feminine woman. But you better believe they will throw you out for not being a feminist.

By the way, what in the Hell’s the matter with straight men nowadays? I can’t believe how gay they are. If you’re going to be that gay, why don’t you just quit lying, move to Frisco, and stick a cock in your mouth? Are there any real men at all amongst these Millennials and Gen Z’ers? Almost all of them seem like complete faggots.

Alt Left: The Amount of Pedophilia, Child Molesting, and Child Porn Trading on the Internet Is Almost Too Vast to Even Contemplate

That doesn’t even get to the teenage girl bullshit. Screw that. We need to do triage. De-emphasize the teenage girl bullshit and go after the actual predatory pedophiles, child molesters and child porn traders who are doing something vastly worse than men fucking Jailbaits (JB’s).

The Net is flooded with teenage girls (14-17) trying to have cybersex and trade pics with grown men. They have come to me many times trying to do that and send me pics. I’m not keeping those pics on my drive.

On Tumblr, once I somehow stumbled down a CP-ish rabbithole. A lot was profoundly disturbing and I ended up reporting a lot of it to Tumblr.

Most of it was “borderline content,” which is legal. If she has clothes on and she’s not having sex, it’s legal. So they dress these little girls up in lewd outfits and put them in dirtiest poses. These are called “clothed models.” The Blackcat scans come to mind. Only  25 million men all over the world downloaded that stuff. Why don’t you go get them, FBI, you petty pests? It should be simple for you feds to arrest 25 million people, right? Don’t you fed clowns ever think maybe there’s some times you should just give it up? Like 25 million people commit some harmless crime, so you don’t bother arresting even one of them? That’s what sane people do.

There were also a lot of comics, drawings, stories, and 3D posts. It’s legal because it’s fictional. They push the boundaries on all this stuff, and it is extremely disturbing.

There were also a lot of self-shot teenage girl JB photos and videos. I didn’t care about that, and for most you could make a case that she could be 18.

There was a video of a 13 year old girl masturbating on cam for some boys. She looked and sounded pretty damn young and she probably could not have been 18. It had 373,000 likes or comments. There were probably millions of people who viewed the video.

I watched it but I really didn’t like it. She was too much of a little girl. It seemed pedo and creeped me out. I thought about reporting it, saw the 373,000 likes and decided not to. See how dumb these laws are? Hey FBI, why don’t you go arrest those millions of men who watched that video. I mean you’d only have to arrest millions of men. Should be simple, right, you trivial fussbudgets.

The pages were often run by pedophiles but there seemed to be some pages run by non-pedophilic molesters.

There were countless “pedo Mom” posts – women being or wanting to be a pedo Mom and pedophile looking for pedo Moms. A pedo Mom has little kids, probably little girls, and for a good amount of money, she lets the pedophile have access to them, maybe by moving him in. Almost all men looking for such an arrangement would probably be true pedophiles. Non-pedophilic molesters are not as driven and would not go to these extreme ends.

There were endless posts by pedophiles giving handles on some very secure platform that is the new child pornography trading platform. Most people trading CP are probably pedophiles but some may be non-pedophilic molesters. I had some pretty normal seeming people send me CP unasked for on the Net before. Some were very goodlooking young men with hot girlfriends. And there they are, sending me some pic of a 9 year old girl with a man’s cock up her ass.

I was pic trading with this guy and I remember when that pic came in. As soon as it came in, I almost immediately flung backwards in my chair so hard I almost got whiplash. And I could not delete that thing from my screen fast enough. It was only up there a second or two. It also left me a bit traumatized afterwards.

It’s hard to describe my reaction to the pic. “Fucked up” and “wrong” is probably the best way to describe it. Like something that’s not supposed to be there. Ever seen those kid’s puzzles where they ask, “Find the objects that do not fit in this picture and you find things unicorns up in a trees and elephants hiding in some rock? That’s what that pic reminded me of.

I thought, “That’s not supposed to be there.” I guess I meant 9 year old girls with men’s cocks up their asses is something that is not supposed to exist in this world. It’s out of place. It belongs somewhere else, on some other planet or galaxy or universe. In this world we inhabit such things are so strange they are almost incomprehensible. We almost cannot even formulate the idea in our minds to imagine that such a thing might be here. It’s “that which cannot be comprehended and that which cannot even begin to be comprehended.” Like the God of the Jewish Kabbalists.

Many of these  pedophiles, child molesters and pic traders people were deep into methamphetamine use and Satanism, which were both strongly associated with CP and child molesting. Once again we find the association of child molesting and pedophilia with Satanism. But why?

I reported 40-50 CP violations because I know what’s legal and what isn’t, anything that looked under 13. There was some really fucked up stuff on there. I’m not even going to tell you what it was because it was so disturbing.

I left the pedo Mom stuff, CP hawkers, and teenage girls alone. You gotta triage in this world and I’m not a cop.

I was stunned at how many people were in on this. Probably no one is investigating the pedo Mom people or the men sharing CP. And that’s not even getting to the people downloading or viewing CP and the girls posting their cam videos. Everyone posing the hazy borderline stuff is obviously being left alone.

There are easily a million+ people in the US deep into CP or molesting kids. I came away thinking that police and FBI must be swamped by all of this CP/molesting. There’s no way that the cops could even begin to deal with it. They’d have to work 24-7 and quit everything else, and within a year, they would have 100,000’s of men behind bars.

It was very sobering. I don’t think anyone realizes how huge this problem is or that most of these people seem to be getting away with it.

The Madeline McCann Disappearance Has Apparently Been Solved

The German police has a suspect in custody, who is already in prison on the related crime of rape, who they are quite sure if the kidnapper of Madeline McCann. Furthermore, they are quite certain that Madeline is dead. This man is a pedophile, a misophile to be exact. He also had relationships with women and he raped a 72 year old woman. This may be a case of a nonpreferential pedophile. They are not common but sometimes they exist. Some pedophiles can have sex with adult women just fine. It’s just that it’s not their preference. Their preference is for little girls. Their attraction to women may by up to 7

This man lived in Portugal for some time and was living there at the time that Medeline disppeared.

And as I said, he’s guilty all right. On one of his properties they found a lot of videos of various things, including some of his crimes. The videos apparently show him molesting and possibly torturing and murdering little girls. They obviously show him doing that to least one murder of a little girl. That girl must be Madeline.

The German police say that they are sure that Madeline is dead, and they think he’s their guy. He probably kept her alive for a while, raped her, and tortured her because that was his fantasy from an Internet record of a conversation he had with another pedo about his fantasies. And after that he seems to have killed her. They also have an idea of where he might have disposed of the body at a campground 20 miles away. It’s being searched right now.

In more incriminating evidence, his phone was traced to right outside the McCann hotel right around the time she disappeared.

They have found the destroyed remains of his home in Portugal where he probably killed her. It’s 1/2 mile away from the hotel. A news team showed the ruins on video.

Around the time Madeline disappeared, he broke into a 72 year old woman’s house, bound her, beat her, and raped her over hours. He was arrested for this crime and this is the crime he is in prison for. This lady lives 1/2 mile away from the McCann’s hotel.

The Germans have witnesses of a drunken confession of murdering Madeline this man made one evening while drinking with a group of men. He was a suspect very early on, and on the first TV show about the murder, his name was turned in. On the next TV show, his name was turned in again by a different person.

The way I read it is that Madeline is on this guy’s tapes. She’s probably alive on some of the material. He probably videotaped the rape, torture, and murder of this girl, possibly over days. Obviously he killed her and the homicide itself is no doubt on one of those videos. And probably photos of her body in which she’s obviously dead (But how do they determine that?).

He’s guilty. He did it. He’s the guy.

Not only that but he appears to be guilty in the disappearance of an 8 year old girl in Germany. He was living right by where she disappeared. I think he abducted, tortured, and raped her over a period of time before killing her.

He killed at least two little girls and maybe more. When they found a van he lived in, they found several little girls’ bathing suits in the van.

Game/PUA: Some Very Creepy Truths about Adult-Minor Sex

I work in mental health and I specialize in people who have issues around thoughts about sex with children, etc. I’m an expert and I have people coming to me from all over the world.

First of all, no one is going to believe the facts I state are true. Trust me though: I’m right. All studies were done in the lab and have been repeatedly replicated. In fact, they’ve been replicated so many times that it seems stupid to do them again except morons keep demanding it. I guess we’ll be replicating them until the end of time then.

  1. Men are attracted to teenage girls. 10
  2. So much worse than that is the fact is that not only are straight men turned on by teenage girls who look like women, which is not surprising, but that 90-10
  3. Yep, that’s right. Straight men are even turned on by little girls under 13. In general, most straight men are attracted to them at a fairly low level, less than they are to mature females, but a measurable attraction is definitely there.
  4. So much, much worse than that even is that 2
  5. Not sure if this is shocking, but .1-

Madeline McCain Murder Mystery Solved!

The Germans nailed him. I wonder how they got him? And yes, this guy is definitely a pedophile. His sex drive is all wrapped up in sex with and torture of little girls. Looks like he killed Madeline for sure as her actual murder or dead body is probably on those tapes. And it looks like he killed another little girl in Germany. And who knows if he killed any more than that? What’s with the little girls’ swimsuits in his van?!

The fact that he brutally beat and raped a 72 year old woman doesn’t mean he’s not a pedophile. Most pedophiles are certainly capable of having sex with adults. It’s just not what they prefer.

Christian Bruckerman is what is known as a misophile. Misophiles are Sadistic Child Molesters, typically also pedophiles, and they make up

And they can absolutely commit homicide in addition to rape, beating, and torture, either as part of the general sadistic fantasy cumulating in death or as a way of getting rid of evidence by eliminating the victim of the crime. If they don’t kill the kid, the kid is obviously going to talk, and they don’t want that.

There are several different types of child molesters, 8

The true Pedophile or Pedophilic Child Molester with a strong attraction to children but little or none to mature persons is only one of four types of child molester and they are not the most common type at all. However, they do tend to rack up a high number of victims whereas with the type above, they are limited to female children in their families, and there are usually not many of those.

This type will never seek out strangers to molest while the pedophile prefers this method. Not all pedophiles molest children, but if you follow convicted pedophiles over a 25 year period, 5

Some pedophiles, an unknown percentage, restrict themselves to porn and masturbation to meet their sexual needs. There are probably more pedophiles like this than we think. All pedophiles probably need to be under the care of an understanding therapist in order to keep themselves from offending and molesting kids.

The worse you treat pedophiles, the more you shower them with hatred, harassment, threats, and abuse, the more likely they are to regress and offend. Therefore, non-offending pedophiles should be treated with kindness, though you might want to keep them away from your kids.

Their homes are often decorated with children’s toys and games and they tend to have kids over at their house a lot due to all the fun things he provides for them to play with. They move around a lot and if you study their residence history, they often moved out under a cloud of suspicion of molesting local children. When the heat gets too hot, they simply leave town. They commonly move overseas, often because it is easy to molest children over there. Many seek out jobs where they will have contact with children.

The 9

This includes the Rage Rapist who has serious anger and hatred towards women as a motivation for rape. The Power Reassurance Rapist or “Gentleman Rapist” is another type. He is often nonviolent, may apologize to the woman afterwards and may even feel guilty in the period after the time. He rapes to reassure himself that he is a man as he has serious issues with his own masculinity and manhood.

The Power Reassurance Rapist is typically nonviolent and never kills. The Rage Rapist usually does not kill his victims but he may beat them due to his anger. Homicide does occur sometimes if the beating goes too far or more commonly if they victim fights back, stimulating his rage even further.

There is another Power-type Rapist whose name eludes me at the moment. Unlike the Power Reassurance Rapist, he does not suffer from issues with his manhood. Instead he is typically a hypermasculine or “macho” man. The motivation is power nonetheless.

Rapist type     Rape motivations 

Power-type      Power, Reassurance of Masculinity,
                Hypermasculinity/Machismo

Rage            Rage, Anger, and Hatred of Women

Sadistic        Erotic Sadism, Aroused by Sexual 
                Violence

The Essence of Evil: Sex with Children Has Become Big Business in America,” by John W. Whitehead

Interesting article. I do not think much of Mr. Whitehead or his lousy institute. I believe he is a fundamentalist Christian, and his institute is of that ilk.

Anyway, this is an interesting piece. However, I am getting a bit tired of hearing about this. The seems to be some sort of background evil in many capitalist societies. In fact, I know a man who became a Communist solely because of sex trafficking. He said that sex trafficking is an essential feature of capitalism. I would be inclined to believe. If you have capitalism, it seems that you have sex trafficking. They go together like peanut butter and jelly.

The usual propaganda that appears in all such articles in well on display in this piece. That includes the typical feminist lie of conflating adult women with minor teenage girls and little girls (They’re all the same – didn’t you know?) and especially conflating teenage girls with little girls (Didn’t you know that a 17 year old girl is exactly the same as a 7 year old girl?). I would wager that most of the “little girls” in this article are actually teenage girls.

That doesn’t mean it’s not horrible, but still, let’s be fair. Exactly how many little girl children are being trafficked in the US to pedophiles or child molesters? Exactly how many men who buy sex in the US want to be a damned little girl? I would say few.

Unfortunately, a Hell of a lot of male sex buyers would love to purchase a teenage girl, but that’s a bird of a different feather.

We also have the usual feminist crap about going after pimps (fine) and going after johns, while leaving the whores alone. Yeah, let’s prosecute the men who buy whores and let the whores off the hook! That’s the ticket. Because if it wasn’t for these evil men buying whores, there would be no such thing as whores. Haha.

There have probably been whores as long as there have been human females. Whoredom is an essential component of the Feminine Spirit for a variety of reasons that we need not go into here.

Wars on Prostitution strikes me as about as stupid as Wars on Drugs,Terror, Crime, Violence against Women, and other hopeless conflicts that cannot be won. None of these things are going to go away in the forseeable future, and they will probably not go away in any future I would imagine. At any rate, if the future looks about like today, surely all of these things will always be with us.

And this is the problem with female thinking. Women actually believe that we can wipe out terrorism, drugs, crime, and especially violence against women. All we need do is declare war on it and wa-la!

Every woman I know thinks we can wipe violence against women off the face of the Earth. How moronic. See how simple-minded women are? This is because women are utopians who more or less live in a fantasy world of gingerbread houses, princes and princesses, and everyone living happily ever after.

If women need to believe this to get through the day, that’s just fine. We all have our crutches. But when female thinking becomes public policy and law, all Hell breaks loose, and society descends into chaos. Which is exactly what is happening in the West now that we are living in a Matriarchy where female values, codes, rules, and ethics are set in stone in public policy and law.

Given that this  sex trafficking garbage has been going on for so long, how come we can’t get rid of it? Isn’t there any way to reduce the incidence of this nasty stuff – sex trafficking of minors?

The article at least gets the term sex trafficking right. A lot of feminist kooks are describing all prostitution as sex trafficking. The recent Epstein court case involved some pretty shady definitions of sex trafficking.

Sex trafficking is pretty much sex slavery, and it typically involves pimps. If you have been forced into prostitution or especially if you can’t leave any time you want to due to coercion, threats, or imprisonment, you are being trafficked. Any female prostitute who is free to go at any time is not being sex trafficked, period.

This article also tries to make the case that this is a new thing. It’s not.

It also tries to say that this stuff is exploding due to porn and whatnot. I’ve not seen any evidence that sex trafficking is on the rise in the US. If someone can provide me with some figures, I would happy to look at them.

I suppose the world is pretty much a lousy place, and horrors like this are simply part of modern capitalist society. But this crap was going on with primitive tribes before there was any capitalism. In a typical war, the victorious tribe killed all the men and took all the women as sex slaves. See Mohammad’s victory over the Jewish tribes of Arabia. And he wasn’t the only one. This has been the traditional method of tribal warfare for as long as we can tell.

Probably the best conclusion is that we humans are not that great. Sure, we have a lot of good in us, but we also have a Hell of a lot of evil (especially us men). It seems to be part of the human condition, and there doesn’t seem to be any getting away from it. Perhaps it’s best to accept that certain horrors characteristic of humans are here to stay and move on. We only have one life after all. No point wasting it wailing at the sky when all your crying won’t change a thing.

The Essence of Evil: Sex with Children Has Become Big Business in America

Important article by John Whitehead first published by the Rutherford Institute and Global Research on April 24, 2019

Children are being targeted and sold for sex in America every day.”—John Ryan, National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

Children, young girls—This is America’s dirty little secret.

Sex trafficking—especially when it comes to the buying and selling of young girls—has become big business in America, the fastest growing business in organized crime and the second most-lucrative commodity traded illegally after drugs and guns.

As investigative journalist Amy Fine Collins notes,

“It’s become more lucrative and much safer to sell malleable teens than drugs or guns. A pound of heroin or an AK-47 can be retailed once, but a young girl can be sold 10 to 15 times a day—and a ‘righteous’ pimp confiscates 100 percent of her earnings.”

Consider this: every two minutes, a child is exploited in the sex industry.

According to USA Todayadults purchase children for sex at least 2.5 million times a year in the United States.

Who buys a child for sex? Otherwise ordinary men from all walks of life.

They could be your co-worker, doctor, pastor or spouse,” writes journalist Tim Swarens, who spent more than a year investigating the sex trade in America.

In Georgia alone, it is estimated that 7,200 men (half of them in their 30s) seek to purchase sex with adolescent girls each month, averaging roughly 300 a day.

On average, a child might be raped by 6,000 men during a five-year period of servitude.

It is estimated that at least 100,000 children—girls and boys—are bought and sold for sex in the U.S. every year, with as many as 300,000 children in danger of being trafficked each year. Some of these children are forcefully abducted, others are runaways, and still others are sold into the system by relatives and acquaintances.

“Human trafficking—the commercial sexual exploitation of American children and women, via the Internet, strip clubs, escort services, or street prostitution—is on its way to becoming one of the worst crimes in the U.S.,” said prosecutor Krishna Patel.

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This is an industry that revolves around cheap sex on the fly, with young girls and women who are sold to 50 men each day for $25 apiece, while their handlers make $150,000 to $200,000 per child each year.

This is not a problem found only in big cities.

It’s happening everywhere, right under our noses, in suburbs, cities and towns across the nation.

As Ernie Allen of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children points out,

The only way not to find this in any American city is simply not to look for it.”

Don’t fool yourselves into believing that this is merely a concern for lower income communities or immigrants.

It’s not.

It is estimated that there are 100,000 to 150,000 under-aged child sex workers in the U.S. These girls aren’t volunteering to be sex slaves. They’re being lured—forced—trafficked into it. In most cases, they have no choice.

In order to avoid detection (in some cases aided and abetted by the police) and cater to male buyers’ demand for sex with different women, pimps and the gangs and crime syndicates they work for have turned sex trafficking into a highly mobile enterprise, with trafficked girls, boys and women constantly being moved from city to city, state to state, and country to country.

For instance, the Baltimore-Washington area, referred to as The Circuit, with its I-95 corridor dotted with rest stops, bus stations and truck stops, is a hub for the sex trade.

No doubt about it: this is a highly profitable, highly organized and highly sophisticated sex trafficking business that operates in towns large and small, raking in upwards of $9.5 billion a year in the U.S. alone by abducting and selling young girls for sex.

Every year, the girls being bought and sold gets younger and younger.

The average age of those being trafficked is 13. Yet as the head of a group that combats trafficking pointed out,

“Let’s think about what average means. That means there are children younger than 13. That means 8-, 9-, 10-year-olds.

“For every 10 women rescued, there are 50 to 100 more women who are brought in by the traffickers. Unfortunately, they’re not 18- or 20-year-olds anymore,” noted a 25-year-old victim of trafficking. “They’re minors as young as 13 who are being trafficked. They’re little girls.”

Where did this appetite for young girls come from?

Look around you.

Young girls have been sexualized for years now in music videos, on billboards, in television ads, and in clothing stores. Marketers have created a demand for young flesh and a ready supply of over-sexualized children.

“All it takes is one look at MySpace photos of teens to see examples—if they aren’t imitating porn they’ve actually seen, they’re imitating the porn-inspired images and poses they’ve absorbed elsewhere,” writes Jessica Bennett for Newsweek. “Latex, corsets and stripper heels, once the fashion of porn stars, have made their way into middle and high school.”

This is what Bennett refers to as the “pornification of a generation.”

“In a market that sells high heels for babies and thongs for tweens, it doesn’t take a genius to see that sex, if not porn, has invaded our lives,” concludes Bennett. “Whether we welcome it or not, television brings it into our living rooms and the Web brings it into our bedrooms. According to a 2007 study from the University of Alberta, as many as 90 percent of boys and 70 percent of girls aged 13 to 14 have accessed sexually explicit content at least once.”

In other words, the culture is grooming these young people to be preyed upon by sexual predators. And then we wonder why our young women are being preyed on, trafficked and abused?

Social media makes it all too easy. As one news center reported,

“Finding girls is easy for pimps. They look on MySpace, Facebook, and other social networks. They and their assistants cruise malls, high schools and middle schools. They pick them up at bus stops. On the trolley. Girl-to-girl recruitment sometimes happens.”

Foster homes and youth shelters have also become prime targets for traffickers.

Rarely do these girls enter into prostitution voluntarily. Many start out as runaways or throwaways, only to be snatched up by pimps or larger sex rings. Others, persuaded to meet up with a stranger after interacting online through one of the many social networking sites, find themselves quickly initiated into their new lives as sex slaves.

Debbie, a straight-A student who belonged to a close-knit Air Force family living in Phoenix, Ariz., is an example of this trading of flesh. Debbie was 15 when she was snatched from her driveway by an acquaintance-friend. Forced into a car, Debbie was bound and taken to an unknown location, held at gunpoint and raped by multiple men. She was then crammed into a small dog kennel and forced to eat dog biscuits. Debbie’s captors advertised her services on Craigslist. Those who responded were often married with children, and the money that Debbie “earned” for sex was given to her kidnappers. The gang raping continued. After searching the apartment where Debbie was held captive, police finally found Debbie stuffed in a drawer under a bed. Her harrowing ordeal lasted for 40 days.

While Debbie was fortunate enough to be rescued, others are not so lucky. According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, nearly 800,000 children go missing every year (roughly 2,185 children a day).

With a growing demand for sexual slavery and an endless supply of girls and women who can be targeted for abduction, this is not a problem that’s going away anytime soon.

For those trafficked, it’s a nightmare from beginning to end.

Those being sold for sex have an average life expectancy of seven years, and those years are a living nightmare of endless rape, forced drugging, humiliation, degradation, threats, disease, pregnancies, abortions, miscarriages, torture, pain, and always the constant fear of being killed or, worse, having those you love hurt or killed.

Peter Landesman paints the full horrors of life for those victims of the sex trade in his New York Times article “The Girls Next Door”:

Andrea told me that she and the other children she was held with were frequently beaten to keep them off-balance and obedient. Sometimes they were videotaped while being forced to have sex with adults or one another. Often, she said, she was asked to play roles: the therapist patient or the obedient daughter. Her cell of sex traffickers offered three age ranges of sex partners–toddler to age 4, 5 to 12 and teens–as well as what she called a “damage group.” “In the damage group, they can hit you or do anything they want to,” she explained. “Though sex always hurts when you are little, so it’s always violent, everything was much more painful once you were placed in the damage group.”

What Andrea described next shows just how depraved some portions of American society have become.

“They’d get you hungry then to train you” to have oral sex. “They put honey on a man. For the littlest kids, you had to learn not to gag. And they would push things in you so you would open up better. We learned responses. Like if they wanted us to be sultry or sexy or scared. Most of them wanted you scared. When I got older, I’d teach the younger kids how to float away so things didn’t hurt.”

Immigration and customs enforcement agents at the Cyber Crimes Center in Fairfax, Va., report that when it comes to sex, the appetites of many Americans have now changed. What was once considered abnormal is now the norm. These agents are tracking a clear spike in the demand for harder-core pornography on the Internet. As one agent noted,

“We’ve become desensitized by the soft stuff; now we need a harder and harder hit.”

This trend is reflected by the treatment many of the girls receive at the hands of the drug traffickers and the men who purchase them. Peter Landesman interviewed Rosario, a Mexican woman who had been trafficked to New York and held captive for a number of years. She said:

“In America, we had ‘special jobs.’ Oral sex, anal sex, often with many men. Sex is now more adventurous, harder.”

A common thread woven through most survivors’ experiences is being forced to go without sleep or food until they have met their sex quota of at least 40 men. One woman recounts how her trafficker made her lie face down on the floor when she was pregnant and then literally jumped on her back, forcing her to miscarry.

Holly Austin Smith (image on the right) was abducted when she was 14 years old, raped, and then forced to prostitute herself. Her pimp, when brought to trial, was only made to serve a year in prison.

Barbara Amaya was repeatedly sold between traffickers, abused, shot, stabbed, raped, kidnapped, trafficked, beaten, and jailed all before she was 18 years old.

“I had a quota that I was supposed to fill every night. And if I didn’t have that amount of money, I would get beat, thrown down the stairs. He beat me once with wire coat hangers, the kind you hang up clothes, he straightened it out and my whole back was bleeding.”

As David McSwane recounts in a chilling piece for the Herald-Tribune:

“In Oakland Park, an industrial Fort Lauderdale suburb, federal agents in 2011 encountered a brothel operated by a married couple. Inside ‘The Boom Boom Room,’ as it was known, customers paid a fee and were given a condom and a timer and left alone with one of the brothel’s eight teenagers, children as young as 13. A 16-year-old foster child testified that he acted as security, while a 17-year-old girl told a federal judge she was forced to have sex with as many as 20 men a night.”

One particular sex trafficking ring catered specifically to migrant workers employed seasonally on farms throughout the southeastern states, especially the Carolinas and Georgia, although it’s a flourishing business in every state in the country. Traffickers transport the women from farm to farm, where migrant workers would line up outside shacks, as many as 30 at a time, to have sex with them before they were transported to yet another farm where the process would begin all over again.

This growing evil is, for all intents and purposes, out in the open.

Trafficked women and children are advertised on the internet, transported on the interstate, and bought and sold in swanky hotels.

Indeed, as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, the government’s war on sex trafficking—much like the government’s war on terrorism, drugs and crime—has become a perfect excuse for inflicting more police state tactics (police check points, searches, surveillance, and heightened security) on a vulnerable public, while doing little to make our communities safer.

So what can you do?

Educate yourselves and your children about this growing menace in our communities.

Stop feeding the monster: Sex trafficking is part of a larger continuum in America that runs the gamut from homelessness, poverty, and self-esteem issues to sexualized television, the glorification of a pimp/ho culture—what is often referred to as the pornification of America—and a billion dollar sex industry built on the back of pornography, music, entertainment, etc.

This epidemic is largely one of our own making, especially in a corporate age where the value placed on human life takes a backseat to profit. It is estimated that the porn industry brings in more money than Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Yahoo.

Call on your city councils, elected officials and police departments to make the battle against sex trafficking a top priority, more so even than the so-called war on terror and drugs and the militarization of law enforcement.

Stop prosecuting adults for victimless “crimes” such as growing lettuce in their front yard and focus on putting away the pimps and buyers who victimize these young women.

Finally, the police need to do a better job of training, identifying and responding to these issues; communities and social services need to do a better job of protecting runaways, who are the primary targets of traffickers; legislators need to pass legislation aimed at prosecuting traffickers and “johns,” the buyers who drive the demand for sex slaves; and hotels need to stop enabling these traffickers, by providing them with rooms and cover for their dirty deeds.

That so many women and children continue to be victimized, brutalized and treated like human cargo is due to three things: one, a consumer demand that is increasingly lucrative for everyone involved—except the victims; two, a level of corruption so invasive on both a local and international scale that there is little hope of working through established channels for change; and three, an eerie silence from individuals who fail to speak out against such atrocities.

But the truth is that we are all guilty of contributing to this human suffering. The traffickers are guilty. The consumers are guilty. The corrupt law enforcement officials are guilty. The women’s groups who do nothing are guilty. The foreign peacekeepers and aid workers who contribute to the demand for sex slaves are guilty. Most of all, every individual who does not raise a hue and cry over the atrocities being committed against women and children in almost every nation around the globe—including the United States—is guilty.

The Pete Townsend Child Porn Case and the Phenomenon of Adults Molested as Children Seeking out Child Porn to Watch

Greg Rambo: Since you’re on the subject of CP/pedos, whatever happened with the legal case against Pete Townsend of The Who for accessing child porno? The only reason I ask is because I understand he and Roger Daltrey are about to go out on another Who tour, but I don’t know if they have any U.S. dates planned.

The last time they tried to come here a few years ago and do a Super Bowl halftime gig, there were all kinds of protests to keep Townsend out of this country. Not that people are lined up to see a couple of 74, 75 year old guys get up on stage, but I thought the concert promoters would shun him due to his charges in England of accessing child porno online.

I’m not sure but I think Pete Townsend was pretty much innocent. I believe got molested himself as a kid and that’s why he was looking this stuff up.

Actually a fair number of people looking at CP on the web are females who were molested as girls, and due to that being done to them, go looking for CP of other girls getting that done to them. These women have no interest in molesting children. I have no idea what they are doing. Perhaps they are reliving their trauma in some way or another and perhaps Townsend was doing the same thing. I am certain that Pete Townsend is not a pedophile.

I remember there was a very famous CP case, probably the most famous series of CP videos ever made, of a girl’s father who made CP of him having sex with the daughter when she was quite young (9-13?).

Of course I haven’t seen any of these videos, but I have seen a minute or two of the clean part of one of them where she is sitting in a chair with all her clothes on fidgeting, and then introduces herself. She’s 9 years old and even though there’s no CP in the clip I saw, it still freaked the living Hell out of me because she’s such a young girl.

There’s nothing wrong with watching nonsexual parts of CP clips. You can go to the FBI site and watch clips of CP videos where nothing sexual is happening. They want to see if you recognize the girl or the man or man’s voice in the video. It’s still creepy though because the girls are so young that it freaks you out. In one that I saw, you can only hear the guy’s voice, and that combined with such a young girl on the screen has a very creepy effect.

I believe they estimate that 4-5 million people have watched at least one of those famous videos. Do you see what I am talking about when I say that LE is swamped by this stuff? Suppose LE went on a goose chase to hunt down 4-5 million mostly men who watched those videos?

They don’t have the resources or time to hunt down even 1

If anyone remembers the girl’s name, tell me in the comments. Those videos were famous all over the world.

I’ve never seen the videos, but I have been told that the girl is clearly enjoying it, and it’s also clear that she deeply loves her father and vice versa. I told you the morality of this stuff is complicated, right? In fact there are quite a few people out there who think there is nothing wrong with these videos as they simply show a girl and her father showing their deep love for each other. I don’t think that’s a good argument.

However, child porn star became an adult and had a change of heart and decided that she got molested and that this was not ok at all. Anyway she became very angry about what was done to her considering that lots of copies of this video were floating around the Net.

A lot of people had nicknamed her the child porn star and teased or made fun of her about this. This wasn’t exactly the sort of fame she wanted to have in life. She decided to file a lawsuit against some  men who had downloaded her videos. Along with her investigators, she found many men who had downloaded these videos. I don’t believe police were involved.

Out of this large number, they selected out the 1,500 wealthiest and sued them for everything they had under “deep pockets” legal doctrine. And she won. I believe she got $1.5 million out of one man. I thought it was a bit ridiculous, but my Mom vociferously defended the lawsuit and had no sympathy for the guy. No one went to jail. It was a civil case.

So one reason you might not want to download real CP onto your drive is that the girl might grow up to be a woman and she might sue you for everything you’ve got for saving the video she was in to your drive. Something to think about.

There are discussions of these videos on the Net among people who have seen it. At one time I read a number of these discussions. Most of the people discussing the videos were young men, and few of them seemed to be actual pedos. Mostly they just seemed to be curiosity seekers or men driven by the lure of the forbidden.

But I was surprised at how many women who had been molested as girls had watched these very famous CP videos. There were quite a women like this on the threads making  thoughtful comments about the videos. I have no idea why women who got molested as girls go look at CP. Perhaps as with Townsend above, they are reliving their trauma and see this is as somehow therapeutic.

So not everyone looking at CP is a bad person. A lot of them are, but not all of them.

Have You Ever Accessed CP Knowingly or Unknowingly? Take the CP Test Today!

SHI: OK, so just to clarify things one last time. You know I really must dot the i’s and cross the t’s, otherwise I can’t ease my mind. A very simple question really. Simply answer whether I am guilty or not guilty of CP in the following situations. OK?

A) I I stumble upon the nude pics of a 12-year old girl on an Internet browser/mobile app. But, it does not display her vagina. I do not immediately close the browser.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

B) Same thing as above but I save the pic on my computer/phone. Not due to pornographic intent but only because I feel it’s “cute”.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

C) I stumble upon the nude pics of a 12-year old girl but it displays her vagina. I immediately shut down the browser and erase all my cookies.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

D) Same as above. But, I look at the pics with keen interest and even save it on my PC/mobile.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

E) I accidentally see the pic of a 12-year old boy flashing his penis. Maybe I save the pic on my computer because it’s funny. Reminds me of my own 12-year old self.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

F) I accidentally see the nude pic of a 7-year old girl along with her vagina. But, I have no negative intention. I’d treat her like it’s my daughter. It is just a child after all. I save the pic on my computer.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

Correct answers only, please. To clarify, I’m not a pedophile. These are hypothetical questions. I strongly believe that children below 16 years should not be disturbed or accosted by adults. They should be left alone to enjoy their childhoods.

The question is at what point does one draw the line?

If you’re turned on by teenage girls, you’re not a pedophile anyway.  There’s only one word for men who are turned on by teenage girls: normal! If you are a man and teenage girls don’t turn you on, there’s two possibilities: You’re either gay or you’re dead.

All these living men who claim that teenage girls don’t turn them on and that all men turned on by teenage girls are pedophiles are simply faggots! They’re gay.  They’re homosexuals. They put men’s cocks in their mouths and suck on them until the cocks spurt cum down their fag throats. They take men’s hard cocks up their anuses until they ejaculate.

I mean you can argue if a man who does that is a man, but I don’t think any man who sucks on penises and lets penises penetrate his anus is not much of a man. Not any man I would want to know anyway! Real men don’t suck cocks! Real men don’t take cock up the ass! I mean is that point even open for debate?

Even if little girls turn you on, you’re not abnormal. 9

In  other words, 2

So if you are a man, I don’t really care if little girls turn you on. I am a lot more interested if little girls turn you on and mature females do not: that means you are a pedophile.  There’s no shame in being a biological pedophile, but I think it is cause for concern in a sense because I think you are at risk of committing a sex crime.

Keep in mind that I have done actual counseling with pedophilic men who had no attraction to mature adults and were only attracted to minors. I  liked both of them a lot, and I thought they were great people. Neither had offended. One man was so wracked with guilt that he was going  to cut his penis off in order not put kids at risk – that’s how deeply wrong he felt messing with kids was. He kept saying over and over, “I cannot hurt a kid…”

People have the wrong idea about pedophiles. However, I do think that all actual pedophiles should be in some sort of therapy designed to keep them from offending. Either that or put them all on an island where everyone is over 18. Why is that such a bad idea? I really like that idea.

I will go over  your hypothetical  scenarios:

A) I I stumble upon the nude pics of a 12-year old girl on an Internet browser/mobile app. But, it does not display her vagina. I do not immediately close the browser.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

Not guilty. There’s no CP.

B) Same thing as above but I save the pic on my computer/phone. Not due to pornographic intent but only because I feel it’s “cute”.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

Same thing. There’s no CP.

C) I stumble upon the nude pics of a 12-year old girl but it displays her vagina. I immediately shut down the browser and erase all my cookies.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY’

You stumbled upon it so you’re not guilty.

D) Same as above. But, I look at the pics with keen interest and even save it on my PC/mobile.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

Unfortunately, let’s put it this way: you now have CP on your drive. I seriously request that you get that crap off your drive right now.

E) I accidentally see the pic of a 12-year old boy flashing his penis. Maybe I save the pic on my computer because it’s funny. Reminds me of my own 12-year old self.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

I don’t know if that’s illegal or not. If it was put up there as CP, then it might be illegal. If it’s put up there for some other reason, probably not. But I don’t know much about CP with males because I’m not into males. I only like females. Hell with males ha ha.

F) I accidentally see the nude pic of a 7-year old girl along with her vagina. But, I have no negative intention. I’d treat her like it’s my daughter. It is just a child after all. I save the pic on my computer.

GUILTY — NOT GUILTY

Yeah, you now have CP on your drive. I don’t care if you saved it because it reminds you of your daughter. Get it off your drive right now.

Alt Left: The Case of the Blackcat Scans: Material Is Legal until the Cops Decide It’s Not Legal

RL: A naked 7 year old girl standing in the woods is legal. She has to be posed in some erotic position for it to be illegal.

Jason: Never trust the law cause it’s vague. Even the laws making adult porn legal are vague. If you’re in a Bible Belt or semi-Bible Belt state, it could be a scary ordeal. So the best rule of thumb is to avoid cops like Jews avoiding the SS.

Case in point: I’ve read people put in jail over anime of all things. That stuff and the toon CP are not real, but the laws are so vague and in some countries (Canada, Australia) that  matter is explicitly illegal.

Anime CP and cartoon CP? No one’s ever gone down on that in the US. Where did you hear about people going down on that? Did they go down on it in some other country? However, the US has gone after some of the artists who draw the toon CP, which I think is totally messed up. The FBI says toon CP is legal, no one will go after you for accessing or even possessing toon CP, but the guys who draw CP go to prison. WTF?

Jason is correct. The CP laws are insanely vague. Supposedly there are guidelines and some stuff is pretty much legal, other stuff is definitely illegal, and apparently there is material in between, whatever the Hell that means. As I pointed out, a 7 year old naked girl standing on a beach with her naked family has long been said to be perfectly legal. She has to be posed erotically, typically with “lascivious display of the genitalia” as the law puts it, for a photo like that to be CP.

Nevertheless, pigs have gone after parents for taking nude pics of their little 2-3 year old kids romping in the bathtub. You got that right. There were attempts to prosecute these parents. The  parents had sent the photos to a photo developer to be developed, and some moralfag employee at the developing business had noticed the photos and called the cops like an idiot.

The pigs were moralfags too for even going after these poor parents in the first place. I believe all of the parents were eventually let off, but they were put through a lot of Hell before their names were cleared. I believe their names were even published in the paper.

The CP laws are insane. Stuff is perfectly legal until the day it’s not.

The Blackcat scans were a “clothed model” series of very young girls, maybe 11-12 years old, posing fully clothed but wearing very dirty outfits and posed in extremely erotic poses.

I have seen a lot of those scans, and I really don’t like them. I find them disturbing and upsetting for some reason. They feel creepy to me.

Those are children – little girls – and I don’t like the idea of sexualizing children and little girls. Little girls don’t even have a sex drive.

I know this is controversial, but I am certain that it is true. No children have actual sex drives in the way that grown men and women do. Pedophiles insist that children have raging sex drives and are dying to have sex with the pedos, but to me this is just a huge pedo lie.

I did some research to look into this. By the way, this research was very hard to do as the topic of child sexuality – even the fact that it apparently does not exist – is so completely verboten and stigmatized that almost no one writes about it.  ]

If you are interested, the actual female sex drive comes out ~4-5 months before menarche, which nowadays is 13 years old. At least that was my conclusion. So the onset of the female sex drive in the USA right now is 13. You wonder why your 13 year old daughter is boy-crazy. Well, there ya go.

Teenage girls? Fine. They’re already sexualized. Just look at them. They’re sexualized on account of merely existing in the manner that they do. Plus most of them have raging sex drives nowadays, and a majority of even young teenage girls are are masturbating like maniacs. This seems to be a new thing. I don’t remember girls or even women in my generation being like this. Is this the early sexualization that everyone talks about? What’s up with that? Is it all the online porn?

I realize that the Blackcat girls are very pretty, but to me an 11-12 year old girl, no matter how beautiful she is, is simply not a sexual object. She’s beautiful in the way that a waterfall or rainbow is beautiful. Ever wanted to fuck a rainbow? See what I mean?

The girls in the Blackcat scans were all gotten into doing the sessions by their Moms. Both the Moms and the girls were impoverished, typically from rural Russia.

The men who did the Blackcat scans had researched the law very carefully, and at the time they started their business, all indications were that this stuff was perfectly legal. It was borderline CP – sure – but lots of stuff is borderline CP. There’s  borderline CP all over the Net – big deal.

Even the FBI said it was legal. The FBI said, “They’ve got their clothes on, so it’s legal.” Makes sense, right?

That was the known guideline, so the webpage owner went up and set up his Blackcat website, and the photographer took all the Blackcat photos on the basis that LE had said they were legal. Then one day some pigs woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided the Blackcat scans were not legal after all. Instead some pigs in Florida decided to interpret the law in such a way that it was actually illegal! Even though the FBI said it was legal!

Florida courts went after the guy who ran the webpage (he was a Jew of course – duh!) and the photographer, and both were put in prison. There had been millions of men visiting that site and downloading that stuff, so millions of men had Blackcat stuff on their drives, but not a thing was done to any of them.

The girls were 10

I guess he was not creepy, and he was doing the whole thing respectfully and by the book. I believe he went to great lengths to make sure that both the girls and their Moms were 10

“Fake CP” Pages on the Net: Real Thing and JB

There’s actually a lot of this, or maybe there used to be 15 years ago. When my friend went looking for CP out of curiosity, he kept running into these pages over and over. They either hinted they were CP or they out and out stated that they were CP. A lot of just said “young” or “teens.”

He saw literally hundreds of pages like that, and he didn’t think any of them had real little girl CP on them. He described them to me as fake CP pages pretending to have CP just to get you to go to their site and pay money to join. Almost none of the pages advertised or hinted at that way were actually real.

As far as JB CP, that’s almost impossible to spot anyway, and my friend said didn’t seem to be what they were claiming.

Dirty little secret: when people talk about CP, they are almost always referring to the real deal – little girls. No one is out there on peer to peer networks trading “CP” with 17 year old girls. It’s ridiculous. If you go to the Dark Web, you don’t find all these sites with hardcore porn with 16 year old girls.

You wouldn’t be able to tell they were that age anyway, so there’s no way it would even be illegal to look at it. The only person getting busted would be the guy who put the site up if he knew their ages or if he failed to get the releases he needed.

I have been told that JB CP is all over the real Internet – everywhere, videos, photos, you name it. It’s mostly unmarked so you don’t even know what it is.

I will tell you what. I’ve seen a ton of porn on the web and of course a ton of “teen porn” amongst that. I have almost never seen any teen porn labeled as being underage.

There are some shady Russian sites I have been that were unlabeled, and the girls appeared underage, but that all legal. It was just JB’s shooting selfies in front of mirrors, in their bedrooms, romping on the beach, or in the waves. That stuff’s all legal.

Nudity is not necessarily CP. As long as the nudity is not explicitly erotic, it’s not illegal. Some 14 year old girl taking a nude selfie in front of a mirror is probably not illegal. A naked 16 year old girl romping in the waves at the beach is not illegal.

All of the photos on nudist sites of JB’s strolling around in the woods, standing on the beach, or standing around some campground are all legal.

In fact, on those nudist sites there are many photos of naked little girls under age 13 who are all doing all of the above things, often with the JB’s and maybe even with some nudist adults around. That’s all legal. Photos of naked kids are often legal as long as they are not erotic. A naked 7 year old girl standing in the woods is legal. She has to be posed in some erotic position for it to be illegal.

So if the Internet is actually flooded with JB porn, I would imagine that most of it is not marked as such. It’s just marked as “teen” or “18 year old girl” or whatever. If it’s not marked and she could be 18, it’s perfectly legal.

I did watch a porn video once from Germany with an older man and a teenage girl in it. I watched it because I’m a sick fuck who likes “older man young woman”, “older man teenage girl”, “old man young girl” videos. Sue me. It’s all legal anyway.

She looked pretty young. It was tagged “16 year old girl,” but there was no way of knowing if that was true or not. There were lots of comments after the video. Some of the men were saying things like, “This video is really hot, but I sure hope she’s 18.”

I have heard that a lot of people put legal videos of young looking legal girls up and then tag them as “16 year old girl” or “15 year old girl” just to get lots of views. Just because someone puts up some teenage girl porn and  puts “16 year old girl!” on it doesn’t mean it’s illegal!

If she’s over 18, you could call it “5 year old girl,” and it still wouldn’t be illegal. It’s not illegal unless she’s really underage. And for viewers, it’s probably not illegal unless it’s dead obvious that she’s not 18 or else you know her and know she’s underage.

I did see some shady Tumblr pages with photos and videos that were marked as underage teenage girls, but that’s the only place I’ve ever seen anything like that on the Net, and I’ve seen enough Net porn for 50 lifetimes. Probably nobody ever goes down for looking at that stuff. I wouldn’t put it on my drive though.

I guess you could always say you thought that the people who put up the video were lying and the “15 year old girl” was really 18 .

Conclusion: The whole idea that the Net is full of CP is asinine. The real thing is as good as nonexistent on the Web anymore. Head to the Dark Web if that’s your thing.

The notion that the Net is full of JB CP is also nonsensical. If it’s out there, 9

This is all just hysteria from Normie idiots, feminist nutcases, and moralfag fucktards.

Proving Possession of Teenage Girl “Child Porn” – Easier Said Than Done

It is very difficult to prove that someone has videos or photos of 13-17 year old girls on their drive. You look at the material, but how can you prove that she’s underage? Maybe she’s 18 and looks really young? There are legions of porn stars out there who were chosen specifically because they looked really young.

I mean when you get down to 13 and maybe some 14 year old girls, there might be some where you think “No way in Hell could she be 18.” Perhaps you could even call in physicians who would testify that there is no way on Earth that girl could be over 18. But would that even be true? Are there not such things as slow developers?

Anyway, if she looks like she’s 13 or 14, get it the Hell off your drive anyway. That stuff is dangerous because could say that any reasonable person could assume she could not be 18.

But I’ve seen quite a bit of this stuff on the web – nudes and porn with 13-17 year old girls. I don’t go looking for such things, and porn advertised as such is quite difficult to find, but at one point, I was searching through Tumblr porn pages for child porn so I could report it. That’s where I have seen most of this stuff.

I stumbled on some “CP” Tumblr blogs, which mostly consisted of borderline but legal material. You would be surprised what sort of “CP” is actually legal. A lot of “CP” is legal! The pages pissed me off, and they linked to one another, so I went following them.

The material was not interesting at all in general, except for the teenage girls advertised as such. Some of that was ok, but it wasn’t any better than porn with an adult woman.

I didn’t turn in any of that teenage girl stuff anyway, though with one, I was almost tempted. I had been liked or reposted 373,000 times! It was a very young girl on a webcam, probably 13. So you have a direct record there of 373,000 people, almost all men,  who looked at that video. You going to arrest 370,000 men, moralfags?

And for every like or repost, there were probably 10 others who just watched it and didn’t like or repost. So easily 3.7 million people, mostly men, probably watched that rather silly webcam video.  You going to arrest 3.7 million men, pigs?

See how stupid this is?

However, every now and then, there was something that was absolutely illegal. I mean sick stuff with girls obviously under 13. And I turned all that stuff in. Some of it was pretty sickening.

One very interesting thing I will say is that after seeing a fair amount of obviously illegal bullshit is that you could probably make a prosecution simply on the appearance of the girl’s vagina. After age 14, a vagina is a vagina is a vagina.

Some of what appeared to be 13 year old vaginas did seem to look a bit weird. It’s very hard to describe them, but they don’t exactly look normal. Like they are underdeveloped somehow.

Under age 13 and vaginas just don’t look right. There’s something very wrong with a 12 year old vagina. It’s just not right. I turned in almost all of that stuff because I don’t want 12 year old girl CP on the web. Screw that stuff.

And then there are the little girl vaginas. Unfortunately, I saw quite a few of what appeared to be those. Most were not labeled but the girl was disastrously young, and at that age, a girl’s vagina is remarkably different looking.

It’s hard to describe again but I suppose if you were a cop, you could develop body stage photos, and at some certain age you could make the case that anyone could figure out that that’s not a mature vagina. Not to mention that the girl it is attached to is obviously a little girl.

Most of that crap isn’t actual sex, though there was one post with an adult man and a ~5 year old naked girl that was the most disturbing thing I saw that night. He was pressing his full adult hard-on right on the little girl’s mouth. Fucked up or what? And real deal CP gets way worse than that. Trust me, I’ve seen it. On very, very rare occasions, but yes I have seen it.

Mostly it was just closeup nudes, pussy shots. Which were also quite disturbing when you can see the face it is attached too.

I probably turned 50 posts in as illegal CP. I probably turned in 25 blogs for illegal CP. And even there, over 9

Just to show you how insane and evil our laws are, I can go to prison for “possession of child pornography” for turning in 50 instances of CP on the web to authorities. Because the law says if you so much as look at this stuff – if it even hits your eyeballs – you have “possessed” CP.

Even if you delete the page right away, you “possessed CP” in that one instant when you saw it and it hit your eyeballs. Isn’t that insane? Now if you can prove that you stumbled upon it by accident, you are off the hook. But if you went looking for the stuff and found it and were surfing webpages of it, you can easily go down. That is because the definition of “possession of CP” that moralfags, sanctimonious shits, and pigs thought up is completely insane.

You see, every time you see anything on the web for even one microsecond, you have “downloaded” that page or image onto your computer. If you surf 1,000 pages on the web tonight, the law claims that you “downloaded” those 1,000 webpages onto your computer, even if you were there for less than a second. Isn’t that stupid?

Now what about me? I suppose if pigs wanted to be complete pieces of shit, they could go after good Samaritans like me out there surfing around dangerous parts of the web looking for CP pages to report to the authorities. There are groups of people called “pedophile hunters” who are doing this all over the web. They even have webpages and Facebook pages.

I suppose theoretically pigs could go after those people too. They probably would for a political prosecution, and pigs launch political prosecutions against people all the time in this country. Go against hotshots like the CIA, the FBI, and the Deep State, and you might definitely get a political prosecution filed against you. The FBI files blatantly political cases against Americans all the time simply because the Agency doesn’t like those people. You wonder why I hate the FBI?

Assuming it was advertised correctly, with 9

Usually you have to prove that the man knew what age the girl was. Almost no man goes down for underage teenage girl CP unless he knows her, mostly because you had to prove that he knew for sure she was under 18. How the Hell do you prove that?

Almost all men going down on this have photos of girls they knew. They were either having sex with them or they were sexting with them. Presumably, the girls told the men how old they were. Legally, that’s all you need. If you aren’t doing that, I don’t see how you are going down on any teenage girl “CP.” Because how the Hell do they know it’s “CP” or not? How do they know the girl’s age? How do they know that you know the girl’s age? See?

I still very much recommend that you do not store any nudes or porn of known underage teenage girls on your drive. Maybe you already know her? Get it off your drive? Maybe someone you know posted it as underage teenage girl CP and you have reason to believe, maybe because you know the guy, that he’s not lying.

There are girls out there who try to send that stuff to men. I’ve met them. I’m not going to say what happened but I sure as Hell don’t have any nudes on my drive from girls I met who told me they were underage. Hell if I am storing that stuff.

All I have got to say is don’t store that on your drive and get it the Hell off your drive if you have any. And even if you don’t know her and you have any reasonable suspicion that she’s underage (like she just looks so young that there’s no way she could be 18), just get it off your drive.

So go ahead and raid me all you want. I really doubt if you will find anything you can charge me with. Go for it, pigs. Raid away.

NSFW: Some Women Actually Enjoyed Getting Molested As Girls

NSFW!

Warning: This post contains a lot of highly disturbing material adults having sex minors, including the child molestation of little girls. If you find this sort of thing disturbing and upsetting, then don’t read. If you do read don’t come back and tell what a horrible person I am for writing about this sort of thing.

Also, a caveat: I am not saying it is a good thing for men to molest girls when they are young. Clearly, many girls are harmed by this practice. In quite a few cases, they get over it quickly, but one can argue that there was still harm. If someone robs me and I get over my trauma soon enough, but I still got harmed, let’s face it. And many girls are harmed long term by being molested, and in quite a few cases, the damage lingers into adulthood.

Some of the sequelae of getting molested are Borderline Personality Disorder, involved in the sex trade, masochism, addiction to abusive men, low to zero desire for sex, difficulty in maintaining sexual relationships, and PTSD.  There may be others but these are the only ones I can think of. Some studies have even visually mapped this damage on brain scans.

Now it’s quite obvious that women who get molested vary. Many suffer long term damage, but for many others, the damage is short term. An unknown group of others actually regard the experience as positive.

For those who regard the experience as positive, the sequelae are nonetheless similar to those who got harmed: involved in the sex trade, masochism or a desire for abusive sex, addiction to older men, and the most prominent of all – promiscuity, often extreme promiscuity.

It’s not PC to say that some women liked it and were not harmed at all, but that’s the science, so that’s the conclusion that we need to go with. Such outcomes may have discussed in the famous paper by Judith Reiner et al around 1999 which said that harm from molestation stemmed whether it was consensual or not.

Girls who went along with and agreed to it experienced short term or no harm at all. Those who were coerced (the majority) often experienced long term harm. Pedophiles have been using  this study to justify the molestation of children, which was to be expected. Nevertheless, the science is the science and we must support the truth in all cases, which by the way is an Alt Left position.

The fact that even many women who were harmed nevertheless enjoyed the sex is well-known and this is part of the therapy of the problem.

I knew one woman who was molested at age 8 and got over it. However she said the experience was confusing because it felt good but it was wrong.

Girls and later women wrestle with this internal contradiction. Many of those seriously harmed often experience extreme guilt over the fact that they felt pleasure in being molested. This is one of the main issues that needs to be addressed in  any therapy.

Any man who intends to molest a girl, regardless of the legality of the matter, ought to think of the consequences for the girl. That girl may well be harmed very long-term, for decades or maybe for life. In that sense it is like stealing from her, beating her up, or out and out raping her. Maybe you should think twice about that.

Besides, if you get caught, your life will be pretty much ruined. If you go to jail or prison, you will be in serious danger there and may well be attacked or possibly even killed. You will be on the Sex Offender List for the rest of your life with all the consequences that flow from that. I would say think about it.

This nonsense has been going on too long. Earlier we could plead innocence of cultural values, but now we know better.

The practice is widespread across cultures and is very common even in some primitive tribes in places like Australia and New Guinea. It was very common in ancient Rome and among the poor in  the West during the 18th and  19th centuries when it was associated with crowded conditions. Even today in India, 5

My own position is that we men have been having sex with those little girls forever now. Isn’t about time that we knocked it off! It’s a human rights issue.

Some women who were molested as girls found the experience positive. Not only were they not harmed but they claimed it was positive and beneficial.

I know it goes against everything you heard, but it’s true.

Some molesters are simply extreme libertines or trysexuals. They have no particular interest in kids and instead are just the types who “try anything” sexually.

I have talked to a couple of women who were raised in “loving families.”

I talked to one who spent half the year in Hong Kong and the other half in the Caribbean and started having sex with her mother and stepfather at age 6. This continued all through teenage years when she was known as the blow job queen at the local junior high (White boys only).

She was a Black woman with a White man fetish, as her stepfather was White, and her Mom was Black. She continued to have sex with her stepfather and maybe Mom to this very day. These “pedo families” are fairly common. It was all a big secret, and she didn’t want to give me too much information, as she was worried I might go to the police and get the mother and stepfather in trouble.

I also talked to an 18 year old girl from the US Northeast who was in one of these families. I guess it was the cousins and the uncles or just the males in the family. They started having sex with her at age 8. She had two sisters, one 14 and another…I forget…9? Both of the girls were also having sex with each other and with the males. It  was all a big secret. I am not sure if any of these men were actual pedophiles or not.

I talked to a British woman age 24 who started getting molested by her uncle at age 9. They apparently “trained” her to be a total slut. From age 13-on she regularly had sex with the uncle and his older man friends, including gangbangs with groups of these older men. She told me about one gangbang when she was 13. They made her recite some line from “Harry Potter” when they came on her.

At some point she got really fucked up about all this as is typical, but then she decided that if this happened, I may as well make the best of it and learn to enjoy it and label it is a positive experience.

She now had a serious older man fetish, and she regularly has sex with older men in hotel rooms, etc. Other than that, her sexual interests were pretty normal.

These older men who had sex with her as a teen took a ton of photos and videos of her getting gangbanged and whatnot. She admitted that it would turn her on to see this stuff and she had been asking around the underground community to try to find the videos of herself, if they ever got distributed that is.

She said people had sent her a bunch of teenage girl CP, and she had looked at it but didn’t find any of herself. She wasn’t really worried about getting caught.

She called me “Mister” and had sort of a strange robotic, emotionless way about her. I saw her pic and she is really hot. Apparently neither her uncle nor the other older men were pedophiles.

I met another woman about 40 who had grown up in one of these “sex families,” and she thought it was a very positive experience. Her father had started having sex with her at age 5. Her sexual interests were pretty normal. Her father was apparently not a pedophile.

I met an 18 year old girl college student from the Midwest who worked as a stripper. She was really nice but she didn’t talk all that much. Her uncle raped her when she was 12.

After that he turned her into some sort of a total sex slave. He trained her to deep throat, and she was also a toilet slave (yuck). She liked some one aspect the latter but not the other part of it.

He tied her to the bed all day when he was gone and put diapers on her if she pissed or shit when she was tied up. He also made her wear diapers when they went out. That’s all pretty gross to me, but she told me that now she had a serious diaper fetish as a result.

He also stuck a dildo her in mouth and taped it in, and she would have to have this thing in her throat all day. This was deep throat training. I asked her if she vomited but she said if that thing is in your throat you can’t puke, which is probably correct. This was all to train her to deep throat.

He also made her have sex with another 12 year old girl at age 12. I asked her why she continued this abusive activity for years, and she said she felt she did not have a choice, and she thought he owned her, which I guess is what he told her.

The uncle also took a ton of photos and film. He got caught when she was 17, and after a trial was sentenced to a long prison term. I asked her what she thought of that, and she had no opinion. All of the photos and videos were confiscated, and there was a ton of it.

Mom was a severe alcoholic and the girl had a lock on her door as a teenage girl to keep the raging mother from coming in and beating her. I guess the mother either allowed the sex with the uncle to happen or she was too wasted to care. The uncle was not a pedophile at all, as he started having sex with her at age 12 and continued til age 17.

She was a total submissive into perverted, abusive sex involving degradation, humiliation, etc. She wanted to be dominated or dommed big-time. I actually liked her and thought she was a good person. She was vaguely bisexual but mostly into men.

I met another who was as Berber woman from Northeastern Mali. Her Dad had started having sex with her at age 9. She and her father were in love. She was 23 years old now and still having sex with the father.

The father pimped her out as a prostitute, and this is what she did all day – got fucked by men. She was into some sort of male worship and said she was put on this Earth to serve and be a slave to men, and she didn’t want any pleasure herself. She was also heavy into degrading sex – the more degrading, the better.

She had sex with women but considered herself straight because she got no pleasure from it. Some of the johns would bring in a girl or a woman and pay for a lesbian show. She told me that she had been “cut” via genital mutilation, and she said all the girls there got cut this way.

I argued that this was bad, and she was very defensive of it and thought it was great because she thought females should just be slaves to and serve men and not get any pleasure themselves.

She was a rather curt and unfriendly person with a list of 100 rules about stuff you could not talk to her about or what sort of tone you had to have with her. She was pretty arrogant about this and quit talking to me after I complained. She was bitchy, difficult, curt, short, and in a chronically annoyed mood.

She thought she was better than other people – she had some narcissism. She got a college education in London and then went back to Mali. She said it was a difficult neighborhood around there with Al Qaeda Islamist types out and about.

She most of these people were apolitical. There were all sorts of warlords and organized crime/smuggler types who were in the area, and these Al Qaeda guys were just another group of gangsters and warlords and really had no particular political or even religious philosophy. Her father was not a pedophile.

"Child Pornography" on the Darknet

You may have heard that the FBI has people dedicated to infiltrating the Dark Web. They won’t get very far. The FBI got into one of the invite only child pornography (CP) sites by accident somehow and, they busted the guy who ran it and his clientele. But that’s it. They have not cracked anything else. It’s hardly crackable anyway. No one knows who anyone is down there, and there’s no way to find out who anyone is. If a cop or anyone for that matter is wandering around down there, mostly what you are going to see is a lot of weird closed doors to sketchy websites. Everything requires an invite or a password. It’s like walking through a huge hotel where all the doors are locked and there are cryptic, possibly sleazy but hard to figure out labels on the doors. There are all sorts of weird, creepy, and sleazy sites down there, but the hard cold illegal stuff like child pornography is typically invite-only. And I guess the cops are not going to get an invite. One of the largest child porn sites down there is run by a woman who got molested as a girl and apparently liked it and turned into a child molester or child porn fan herself. She runs it with her husband. No one seems to know who she is, and there doesn’t seem to be any way to find out. I believe 6 I have never been to the Darknet, and I don’t go looking for real CP on the web. I have friends who have seen it on the chans where it gets posted sometimes, and they told me it is awful stuff, so bad that once you see it, you never want to see it again. CP barely exists on the real web, and your chances of stumbling across it accidentally are vanishingly small, but that depends very much on how you define your “CP.” There are nine different levels of “CP,” and the top 3-4 levels are more or less legal and are actually not even considered CP. I am talking about photos of nudist camps where people of all ages, including kids, are walking about naked. There are nudist and nudist camp sites all over the Internet, and you can see naked human beings of all ages on those sites walking about in the woods, sitting on the beach, etc. Remember, nudity is not necessarily child pornography. There has to be some sort of focus on the genitalia or lascivious display of the genitalia. The stuff with little girls (under 13) is basically impossible to get to on the normal web if it even exists at all anymore (it’s probably all gone Darknet). The stuff with puberty aged girls with adult-like bodies posing lasciviously is accessible on the normal Net but extremely hard to find, and you really have to know where to go looking for it and know what you are doing to find it on more or less “hidden” websites. It’s also dead illegal, and I would not go looking for that stuff if I were you. I have been told that there are are photos of naked teenage girls posed and even having hardcore sex all over the Net. Teenage girls have quite a bit of their own posed nude stuff out there. They post their nudes or porn pics to their personal social media pages like Twitter. There are definitely Russian sites where that post a lot of underage  teenage girls. They’re mostly standing in front of a mirror, standing in their bedroom or by the pool, and playing at the beach. Those sites are quite hard to find and are quite hidden and not marked well. Nevertheless, I am pretty sure that all of the photos described above are legal anyway. But most people are so afraid that it might be illegal that no one in the US wants to post it. If it looks like she could be 18, there’s no way to find out if she is or not. I am also told that there is a lot of hardcore porn with underage teenage girls all over the Internet, but I’ve hardly seen any myself other than one famous one by the Bang Brothers that has millions of views by now. She’s 15, but you watch that video, and she doesn’t look Hardcore porn with underage teenage girls, although reportedly common, is very hard to find for real though because you are never sure if she’s really underage unless someone tells you. Almost no hardcore porn on the Net actually says it’s an underage girl, and the rare stuff that is might just be marked “16 years old” just try to draw in viewers looking for taboo stuff, and it might not even be illegal. Might be an 18 year old girl with a “16 years old” tag on it to draw in viewers. What there is instead is a ton of porn out there with young looking teenage girls saying generally saying “18” on it, and Lord knows if the girls are 18 or not. They always look like they could be 18. Unless they know who she is or she could not possibly be 18, LE has no idea if it’s even “CP,” so it stays up.

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