Answering Some Reddit Delphi Murders Sub Haters, Part 2

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I really shouldn’t answer this stuff, but some of it is so outrageously and libelously flat out wrong that they need to be answered because they are so nasty, so wrong and so destructive. They actually report my conclusions as the exact opposite of what I concluded! Very few rumors below fall into that category, but a few do.
I would like to point out that a few posters were considerate enough to write about me more or less respectfully. I thank these posters for their decency. I notice they are all men. For some damned reason I am a lightning rod for women on that sub.

(like instuctionals on how to seduce a preteen girl, A.K.A “grooming”)

This is the worst one of them all. I keep answering this charge and they keep throwing it back at me. Now that I think of it, I did write a post, “How to Seduce a Teenage Girl,” but I think I said the post was mostly intended for teenage boys. Anyway, that was a troll post and having had a lot of experience with them, you don’t seduce a teenage girl any differently than you seduce a grown woman. There are no special techniques to use if she’s not 18 yet.
Thing is, I would never write a post ever instructing child molesters on how to groom a child! Are you kidding? Hell no. I don’t support molesting children. Never have, never will. In fact, I have turned people in for child porn, and I turned in a neighbor for possibly prostituting their 12 year old daughter out to men.

‘exploring the sexuality’ of underage girls by adult males is definitely illegal and mostly considered immoral.

That’s not true. Grown men can talk about the sexuality of teenage girls all they want to. Of course it’s legal. And in terms of immorality, adolescent sexuality is a study of heavy research and many books and journal articles have been published on this very important aspect of our culture.
If he truly is a psychiatrist/therapist, professional whatever,the discussion of such taboo issues on personal blog is also unethical.
Peer counselors don’t need a license. And a lot of clinicians write about subjects like this. There is a sexologist who writes about this subject very regularly. Is he unethical. Clinicians can write about any are of psychology and psychiatry that they wish, even sexology.

The correct way is to conduct a study, compile the research, and present it to a community of peers for review. Open internet blog is not the way.

That’s not true either. I publish in academic journals and I referee for a journal. Scholars, including colleagues I have worked with, publish their ad hoc, seat of the pants, anecdotal and observational research all the time. It’s just that people might not take it seriously until you do actual peer reviewed research on the topic.

Can you imagine some poor mom dropping off her poor daughter to talk to a “professional” and its him????

I don’t generally work with minors for money. I have worked with one teenage boy though. I worked with two teenage girls, one 13 and the other 14, for free because they were in such bad shape. They were miserable and almost suicidal so they needed some intervention. And course we talked about all sorts of sexual matters because that was why they came to me in the first place. Most of my professional work is with people dealing with sexual issues. Last time I checked, they felt that I helped them a lot.

but i wouldnt doubt thats the reason he got into that field-

She just called me a pedophile of some sort. I have no more interest in underage girls than any other man.
Another libel.

I know everyone is entitled to have their own opinion- but being attracted to girls that age is 100% NOT OK- I’m 38 and holding a conversation with guy or girl in their early 20’s is hard enough.. everything about him is off – total creep.

If you don’t think he’s a creep you either haven’t read his entire blog or you agree with his views on the sexual availability & desirability of prepubescent or barely pubescent girls.
Sounds like another libel. Of course I do not think that prepubescent girls are sexually available. Are they sexually desirable? Not to me, but to at least 25% of all normal men they are. But no men should have sex with a girl like that. Actually it is more than that. The most recent study I saw showed 51% of normal men responding sexually to prepubertal girls in the lab. I guess 51% of all men are evil pedophile scum who should be killed.
What’s barely pubescent? 10-12 years old? No man should have sex with a girl that young. They’re not available to anyone. Desirable? Not to me but to at least 25% men they are.
In fact it is. Endless studies in the lab have shown that all normal men are aroused by teenage girls in the lab, typically maximally. In other words, men react just as strongly to teenage girls as to adult women. The only men who don’t react to them are dead or gay, so I assume this man mosluggo is a homosexual.

Frankly I’m amazed he hasn’t been investigated on suspicion of possessing child pornography.

No one gets investigated for possession of child porn for some shitposting they did on the Internet. Good luck getting a warrant for that. They would have to have a valid tip (you saw CP on someone’s computer) or they would have to catch them on CP sites. The latter is how most men go down on this charge. They also find networks and when they unravel the networks, they often find a lot of other people trafficking in this stuff. I have no interest in that garbage and I wouldn’t have any of it anywhere near my computer. Supposedly I’ve already been reported for this dozens of times already, and no officer ever contacted me, so it’s useless to call me in.

In my opinion, these statements are the reason for all the pedophi- excuse me, hebephilic tendencies….He can’t deal with a real grownup woman. So he “explores” the sexuality of pubescent girls. But Hey, he’s not a pedophile. Noooo sir. No way.

Are you kidding? I’ve had many relationships with real grow-up women ever since age 17. I’ve dated more women than most men will in 10-20 lifetimes.

Jeez, he’s an old man pedocel…Guy sounds like an incel.

More libel.
Sheesh, I am probably as far as you can go in terms of being the polar opposite of an incel. Where do these idiots come up with these ideas?

apparently he dates almost very young models (in his dreams).

Actually I do. They are usually in their 20’s. Last date I had was last September though.

i used to read his writings and try to guess what his DSM-V personality orders were, for fun.

More libel.
I don’t have a DSM-5 personality disorder, and I’ve probably seen 30 clinicians who diagnosed me over 35 years. They actually specifically stated that I didn’t have a personality disorder, thank God.

Hmmmm….the quotes from the first few paragraphs were plagiarized verbatim from this very subreddit. I’m surprised you didn’t recognize them.

I have no idea what this lunatic woman is talking about. She is referring to this post. I don’t even read that vile Reddit, and I don’t understand what material she thinks I plagiarized (copied word for word) from there, but I copied nothing word for word from there.
Another libel.

RL might understand the consumption and effects of methamphetamine though..

This comment accuses me of being a meth user. Of course I do not use that awful drug. I’m not an idiot. I know what the drug is like, and it’s definitely not for me. The three-day post-high crash alone is enough to put me off of it.
Another libel.
 

He describes himself as a lady killer.

LOL used to be, I guess. I have no idea why people find statements like this so outrageous. Don’t they realize that men like this actually exist? Do they think it’s all fantasy and lies. There are a lot of men like this out there, you know. I know, I made friends with a lot of them. Why do women find this so offensive? Anyway, this is a PUA blog. What do you expect to find on here?

He’s almost certainly attracted to young girls as evidenced by his continual references to pedophilia and hebephilia.

Of course I am. But all men are. It’s been proven in the lab endlessly. I am just being honest. But when I see them on the street nowadays, I don’t even look at them much. They are not very interesting to me. It’s too much of a young girl.
I’m not particularly interested in those subjects, I’m no more attracted to little girls and Lolitas than any other man, but I just think society’s attitudes about this stuff are nonsensical. Pedophilia and hebephilia are research interests of mine because I work with a lot of people who are dealing with thoughts around these themes. But if you want to talk about sexual fantasies and whatnot, all mine revolve around adult women these days, and often older women believe it or not.

He also quotes a study he just happened upon that is about the masturbatory habits of pubescent girls.

Teenage girls. Right. What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong with studying the sexuality of sexually mature teenage girls? It’s an important subject of research in terms of Pediatrics, Adolescent Psychology, Psychiatry, Sociology, and many other areas. They are sexual beings who are sexually active in all sorts of ways with themselves and maybe others, and it’s a perfectly reasonable area of inquiry.

I saw several self-confessed paedophiles comment on his blog, including one who graphically detailed his abuse of a little girl in Mexico.

Yes he commented here for a while, but most of the commenters fought with him. Anyone can come here and say anything they want to. If you want to come here and confess to your serial murders or whatever, be my guest.
That slug Lindsay not only left the post up, but made a comment in response.
Sure, why should I take it down? Did I support him? Everyone was attacking him anyway. Let them post and let the antis take them on. Fair is fair.
Is it merely chance that paedophiles congregate on Lindsay’s site?
They don’t congregate here. We have had a couple but the people who came here were mostly hebephiles. I had one on here for a long time,  but I finally threw him off because I got tired of his endless linking to photos of 12 year old girls and whatnot. I could care less about that stuff and I don’t want them literring up my site with that junk.

 I wonder if they’re members of the super safe password protected site? Just musing.

Of course not. Why would I join some pedo site? I’m not into that nonsense.

Law Enforcement are checking your site, slug?! Damn fuckin’ right they are.

No they aren’t. I’ve talked to LE in relation to this Delphi case. They told me they don’t give a damn what I write here. Don’t people realize that police have better things to do than to monitor some random Internet blog?

Lindsay also had a counselling business going on where he states on his blog that he counselled pedophiles.

I worked with a couple of them, one very briefly. I don’t really specialize in that though. I would almost rather refer them out.

I wonder then, why they picked the slug as a counselor.

They came to me because of some articles I wrote. They wouldn’t to make sure they were pedophiles. I assured them that I was 100% sure that they were pedophiles. One man needed a lot of work because he was suicidal and at serious risk of self-harm. He was going to hurt or kill himself to protect children from himself because he could not bear the thought of hurting a child and he was worried he might do that. As you can see, he’s a horrible person, isn’t he? Last I heard he was going to take some libido lowering drugs to kill his sex drive because he was so worried he might hurt a kid. I thought he was a very good person.

Of course, he’s not a counselor anymore.

Yes I am. And I work all over the world too. How about that?

His new job is writing made up drivel on the internet and begging people to send him money.

I work hard. I would like to be compensated for my labor, just like any other worker. Do you work for free? Why should I work for free?
There are some disgusting paedo/hebo apologist posts.
What do you mean? For those who actually have a fixated orientation like this, they can’t help it, and it’s not their fault. It’s only a problem if they act on it? Why beat someone up for something they can’t control and had no choice over? It’s like seeing a guy in a wheelchair and throwing him in the gutter.
Not to mention continuous rants about age of consent laws
I don’t really care about age of consent law as I will hopefully never break them anyway. I am concerned about very young men going down on this stuff. I mean, an 18 year old man going to prison for sex with a 16 year old girl? Two underage teens going to prison for having sex with each other? It’s crazy. And 18 seems a bit high. Most of the world is at 15 or 16. But it makes no difference to me as I don’t violate those laws anyway. I think most men who break these laws are idiots who get what they deserve.
(Personally I think the people who watch porn with innocent high school girl themes need to be watched very very closely.
Idiots don’t realize that LE doesn’t have the resources to watch the millions of men watch teen barely legal porn bullshit. We are talking millions of men here. They don’t even monitor men with openly pro-pedophilia blogs. There are pro-pedophile forums out there, and LE doesn’t even monitor the men on those forums. There are over 1 million men like that in the US alone. LE doesn’t have the time or interest to waste on some guys shitposting in the Net.
They will only investigate if there is evidence of a law being broken. There has to be a credible charge that an attempt or actual child molestation. For possession of child porn, mostly they monitor sites that distribute this s stuff, watch the traffic and trace it back to individual computers. Police don’t have the resources to monitor all of the “possible criminals” out there. It’s an insane notion. I can’t believe people fall for this bull.

Yeah, he is unemployed.

Actually I live off a trust fund, so I don’t have to work. But my health is not good enough to work fulltime anyway, so I work these side jobs. And of course I pay my own bills.

He repeatedly quotes pro-paedo studies, like apparently 95% of men are attracted to 13 year olds or some shit like that.

Nope, it’s 100%, and they’re not pro-pedo studies.  That’s the straight up solid science on the subject. The studies have been replicated so many times that no one even bothers to test the hypothesis anymore.

Isnt he the same guy who was trying to justify being attracted to young girls, but saying he wasnt a pedo at the same time??

Shit. The teenage girl bullshit again! Of course it’s normal to be attracted to teenage girls, even if they are underage. All normal men are. The only ones that aren’t, like mosluggo here, are obviously faggots. The only men who don’t turned on by these girls are gay men. It’s been proven in the lab so many times that no one even questions it.
Of course normal men who are attracted to JB’s are not pedophiles! Pedophiles don’t even like teenage girls. Those are old ladies to them!
And the American Psychiatric Association has even stated that men being attracted to 12-14 year old girls is not a mental illness, and it’s not even abnormal! Even if it is to the point of Hebephilia. Go read the Hebephilia discussions during the debate about DSM-5 (see, I actually read all that stuff). They threw out Hebephilia as a proposed paraphilia because they said it’s not a disorder and it’s not even abnormal.
I’ll tell you what. I’ll argue the science, and you all argue the hysteria, pseudoscience and unscientific bullshit. Deal?
And if i remember right, he said hes a doctor/psychiatrist.??
I work in mental health as a counselor or whatever else you want to call me. We work on a strictly scientific basis too. And I actually specialize, among other things, in people who are getting wrapped up in worries about sex with children. And yes I have worked with a couple of actual pedophiles, and I understand the condition very well. Big hint here: They don’t get turned on by mature humans! They only like little children, under 13. I’ve worked with two of them so far, and neither had an interest in teenagers. Teenagers were too old for them.

at one point had posted a near-tutorial about how to seduce one

What? Why would I post something like that?! I can’t even touch those girls for God’s sake and I almost never even talk to them. I can tell you right now how to seduce a teenage girl though, having done so many times. You do it pretty much like how you seduce a woman. A teenage girl is a woman in a sense. What works for women works for JB’s. It’s not rocket science, folks.
how attracted to **him** these children were.
What! Hell no. I mean sure, for most of my life, some of them were, of course, but at my age almost none of them are. Newsflash to all the idiot women out there! Teenage girls like men! JB’s like men! Even older men. 18-40. Some of them do anyway. Anyone knows that except stupid women who lie to themselves and everyone else.
This makes me conclude he is a girl attracted hebephile himself.
Really you dumbass woman? Do you even know what that word means? If I were like that, it would mean that I am only attracted to 12-15 year old girls and I am not attracted to mature females at all. I would see a 16 year old girl and call her a grandma. That’s what hebephiles do. You really believe I think like this? You dumb bitch.

His so called “crime scene photos” were merely pics of searchers and natural flora that were so pixelated that the subjects could not be identified.

No one knows what those photos are of. There are many camera flashes going off right in the area of those photos. Does the brilliant Gray Hughes have any explanation for all those camera flashes? Those flashes are from a crime scene. They are being caused by detectives shooting photos of a crime scene. No way are there searchers in those photos. Searchers in a circle shooting photo after photo? Please. How stupid are you, woman?
Anyway, I think you have reading comprehension problems. In my last post, I said I didn’t know what those were photos of.

In short, if there is a rumor about that Lindsey hears, he will expound on it ad nauseum, no matter how far-fetched. I believe he never met a speculation he didn’t like

That’s funny. You realize that the ISP specifically contacted us and asked to see a lot of our photos and data? But no worry, obviously I’m full of it and ISP are idiots.

With the amount of information that he claims to have about the case there are only a few logical conclusions 1) He is LE attached to the case, but for some reason is leaking all of the information that is supposed to be kept secret or 2) He is the actual killer (only other way he could possibly know this much detailed info) or 3) A pathological liar / fraud.

None of them are true.
Of course I’m not the killer, but thank you for crediting my intuitive, profiling, and cold reading skills. Also I’ve already been investigated and cleared by Indiana State Police. Go ask the FBI. A friend of mine did, and the FBI told them, “Lindsay hasn’t left California in years.”
Of course I don’t make up anything. If I did, I would tell me group and ask them if they want to dissolve the group because I would be so ashamed of myself.
Oh boy, the clowns and haters over on Reddit are going round and round again lying about me. Some of these lies are truly pernicious though and as many times as I have refuted them, I always have to go back and do it again.
First of all, a couple of the comments are fairly respectful, as far as such things go. My regards to those commenters for keeping it clean and real. I will deal with most of it in another post.

When he first started turning up on sites discussing Delphi, because of the type of comments he was making & his blog content, people were wondering if he was an RSO trolling crime forums under a pseudonym he took from the other notorious Robert Lindsay

Whoa! One of us Robert Lindsays is a sex offender! Well, I’ll be. I always knew we can came from an illustrious family line.

I’ve definitely seen Lindsay describe himself as an extremely attractive man in the looks dept.

Gong! Wrong again. I’m not that tone-deaf. I would never say I was goodlooking because no one can be objective about that. Instead I say that other people have been saying for many years that I was goodlooking or very goodlooking. And at age 24, I did get two offers to be a model, but I turned them down because I’m so damned homophobic. Now that I think of it, that really was the peak of my looks. What I would give to have that face back!
Alas, when you bet on the body, you bet on a losing horse, as the Buddhists say. The handsomest men and the most beautiful women will all see their looks fade. I am 60 years old. Most women won’t even look at me anymore. But women my age still rave about how hot I am, so I guess I’ve still got something. Honestly though, I hate my most recent photos.

He is certainly preoccupied with his appearance and intelligence (such as it is).

It’s an IQ blog. We talk IQ on here. It’s what we do. If it offends you, leave. There’s really no need to talk about my intelligence. If you’re bright, it’s obvious to all around you. Just read the site. There’s nothing more to say.
I would like to say though that I did absolutely nothing to earn either my looks or my brains. I simply lucked out in the genetic lottery. I don’t see how that makes me better than anyone else. How am I better? Because I was smart enough before I was born to pick the right parents?
And in case you are wondering, my father was a very handsome man. I saw a photo of him at 35 when he married and he could have been a Hollywood actor. No wonder he slayed so much. And my mother has always been beautiful of course. My father had a near-gifted IQ (129), and my mother has a genius IQ (~147). She also graduated second in her class at UC Berkeley’s Boalt Law School. That’s pretty damned hard to do. All my siblings have genius IQ’s of 140+.
I guess we all got lucky.

His prose is the literary analog of explosive diarrhea.

Well, let’s see you do better, ok?
I won Best Column for a High School Newspaper in California in 1974 at the USC High School Journalism Awards. I wrote for my school paper and school magazine at university. Out of 50 submissions to the magazine, five were chosen, and mine was one of the five. I am a former Assistant Editor of a magazine. I have worked as a freelance writer. I have published literary fiction (short story). Gary Snyder, a very famous writer – look him up on Wikipedia – was at that literary conference, and he was telling people how much he liked my story.
I write for a peer reviewed linguistics journal and referee on the same journal. I also write books. I’m a published author. Most recently, I published an 81 page chapter in a linguistics book printed out of a university in Turkey. And that had to get through two murderous peer reviews – one for the journal and one for the book – including one that included the top scholars in that field.
So anyway, you don’t like my writing? Let’s see you do better.

The guy is a pervert and shows no regard for others and their comments. He constantly asks for money.

Pervert? Well, of course I am. Thank you very much. As long as I get those testosterone shots anyway.
No regard for others and their comments? Not so. Come to our forum some time and see if it’s true.
I don’t constantly ask for money. But this is a pay site. It’s not a free site! We hit you up of course in the first two posts on the front page, but after that, we leave you tight pikers alone most of the time. How bout if you tell me why I should work for free? Do you work for free?

I am saddened to think that anyone would believe anything he writes.

Ask the ISP. They requested to see a lot of our data and photos, and we sent it to them. I sure hope they don’t believe us!

He seems to me like a sad, lonely, messed up man with nothing but time on his hands.

Not sad.
Not lonely.
Messed up? Hey, we all are. But I work in mental health, so I’m not allowed to be too nuts, or I won’t be able to work with my “messed up” clients.
Time on my hands? I live off a trust fund. I don’t have to work. Eat your heart out!

I personally feel like he should be ashamed of himself for all of the nonsense he spews.

Of course not. They’re all rumors and nowadays at least we check the rumors out extensively before we even run them. A lot of rumors come from such unreliable sources that we never run them. Rumors are rumors. A lot of them will go bad. That’s just how rumors are. But usually some will end up being correct.

He’s banned him and deserves to be sued…How he hasn’t been sued and found guilty of defamation is beyond me.

I am certainly not banned from the Delphi forum. I posted there not long ago in fact. No one will sue me. I am a Journalism major. In order to prove libel, the statement must be:

  1. False
  2. Known to be false by the person who made it.
  3. Made with malice aforethought.

Of course I don’t print anything that I know is false. Anyway, you can’t get sued for libel for printing a rumor.
BA Journalism. Had to take Law of Mass Communications, run exactly like a law school class. We spent a lot of time on libel law. I know it better than you all ever will. I can’t be sued for libel because I haven’t committed any.

People that use tragedies like this to exploit others are the lowest of the low.

Ha ha. Well the police found some of our information valuable. That’s worth something. And the families don’t care what I write here. We have contacts with people who are very close to both families and they told us this.

I’m pretty certain that he is an Aspie (Aspergers syndrome) which is through lack of a better term high functioning autism.

Assburgers?! I’ve been seen by plenty of clinicians over time, psychiatrists, clinical psychologists, MSW’s, LCSW’s. I’ve gotten a few diagnoses but I definitely never got that one! I’ve dated maybe 200 females in my life. There’s no way I could have done that if I had Assburgers. I hear those guys are practically Walking Chick Repellent.

He is extremely intelligent from what I can see, and a lot of what he says is either stated fact or it’s talking about a rumor- that’s where he falls over, he is a bit time deaf and awkward to the mood.

Lots of people are tone-deaf, especially men. The vast majority of them certainly don’t have this massively overdiagnosed condition. Actually I am the opposite of socially clueless. I can almost read your damned mind! That’s how socially with it I am. That’s just about a diagnosis of Anti-Assburgers, if there is such a thing.

Same reason he spends his days on Quora answering questions.

Queera banned me. Thank God! Why is answering questions on Queera all the time imply being tone-deaf? There are hundreds or thousands of people who do just that.

The part I have a problem with is not only does he obsess about pedo vs. hebe., he said he went into chat rooms with little girls and also went on and on about how sexual 9 yr old girls were.

This is so wrong! I have never gone into chat rooms where there were little girls. Why would I go into a place like that? I’d be ashamed to anywhere near a place like that.
As part of some anti-pedophile research I was doing to try to disprove some common arguments pedophiles use to support having sex with kids, I did go into bulletin boards where teenage girls were talking about developmental milestones, which I was doing research on as the age of pubertal markers is said to be dropping. It just so happened that  they were discussing their sexual behavior too. They were just bulletin boards like Reddit, sitting on the Net for anyone to see. No one was chatting in real time. You can go read them yourself if you wish.
I wasn’t there for that, but I got out a pen and tallied it up anyway. It’s good research. Underage teenage sex is problematic in a lot of ways and causes some society problems. We need to learn as much about it as possible. It’s a public health matter.
That nine year old girl stuff is some real slander. Pedophiles argue that little children have strong sex drive, want to have sex with adults and  try to seduce adults all the time. That argument seemed dubious to me, so I was out to disprove it. That’s why I was on the bulletin board. And on the contrary, my research determined that pre-pubertal children do not have much of a real sex drive at all.
The sex drive comes on in girls at age 13 nowadays, and at that time, many start masturbating, fantasizing about sex, and desiring to have sex with other humans. I found little of that behavior before age 13. So this person has completely misrepresented my position. In fact, they have turned it completely upside down.
I’m getting called a pedophile for doing anti-pedophile research! What in God’s name is wrong with you?

“hot girls throw themselves at me”

LOL wut. Baby, I’m 60 years old. That was way back in the old days, and those days are long gone, never to come again. But yes, it was like that for a bit. People just don’t understand how good handsome men can have it if they play their cards right and perfect their charm, Game, personality, etc. You would not believe the type of lives they can live and the crazy things that can happen to them. It’s the sort of stuff you hear about it and say, “That never happens to anyone!” except it does happen to Chad. I have known many young men like this, and oh boy, the stories I could tell you.

it is NOT okay to be discussing little girls(9 freaking trs old!) Sexuality.

It is ok. I will do it again just to piss you off. As far as the sexuality of 9 year old girls goes, as a good rule, they don’t have any! They don’t have  any real sex drive the way we adults do. They do not have the physical sex drive that mature females do. There are physical sensations of the mature female sex drive that I will not go into here, but girls have none of these. Furthermore, little girls do not seem to have any interest in having sex with other humans.
This is the psychological component of the mature female sex drive. One of my best woman friends once described it to me as a feeling of “hunger.” Well, little girls don’t have that. Yes, little girls do engage in sex play. We call it childhood sex play and it is extremely common. I hear about it from clients all the time. This seems to be more exploratory or curiosity seeking as opposed to the type of actual physical and psychological sex drive of a mature adult.
You happy now?

He admitted going into CHILDREN’S chat sites and discussing sexuality with them…He crossed the line with his “research” and I didn’t care to support someone who would blur those kinds of lines for any reason…they were still trying to explain the problem wasn’t him being specific about age or development preferences in child sex offenders, it was his activities and methods of getting information.

We already discussed this, well, libel. Of course I did no such thing and would not ever do such a thing. I’d rather kill myself.

Oh, ugh, I forgot he was talking about underage girls being attracted to him.

Haha! Baby, I am 60 years old. Come on, please. How many 60 year old men are able to attract underage teenage girls? .01%? I wish they were still attracted to me. That would be so great for my ego. I would not feel so old. But really? This does still happen to me, but almost never, maybe only once a year. The last time was nine months ago, she was a 15 year old girl, and she was a total knockout. You’re welcome. I am so proud of myself! Eat your hearts out, haters.

As someone who is usually called a “hot girl “ you’d never see me ever hit on him let alone lie and say he’s attractive.

Evangitron baby doll, I wouldn’t touch your hot ass with a 10 foot pole and an 11 foot extension!

He should be looked at for at least the creepy research with young girls.

Turn me in, Evangitron, for reading bulletin boards on the Internet! I dare you.

Honestly, it his was what he wrote in his blog about the pre-teen sex drive and his own ‘studies’ that creeped me out more than anything he ever posted about Delphi.

Sigh. Here we go again. My studies determined that “preteens” don’t have any damned sex drive, for Chrissake! That blows up one of the pedos’ biggest justifications for molesting kids! You happy now?

Haven’t looked for a long time, but I see he still has some of his milder views re teenage girls on his older blog posts

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/test-to-see-if-a-man-is-gay-or-not/

I love it! One of my favorite posts of all time! Thank you so much for linking to that. And yes it is a gay test, and all you guys who say that girl doesn’t turn you on, well, you’re all a bunch of faggots, ok? Have fun in Frisco, boys!

…he came into the biggest fb group posting such unusually graphic sexual assault scenarios to explain the crime scene, that he got himself banned from the group within a few days + mass-reported to the Delphi tip line (he ranted about being questioned by police on his blog not long after being booted from the group)…Being kicked out of the group & questioned by LE was what set off his first round of blog rants.

I don’t care about those silly bitches and their hen party groups. They can have them.
Sheesh. Ranted? How would you like to get reported to the police 50 times for no good reason as a suspect in one of the most notorious modern murder cases? Would you be happy with that?

and it was so sensationalized because he wanted/needed people to pay him.

Not really. Some of the rumors were quite gruesome and nasty as far as how the girls were killed, but we had to report them, as they were good rumors that had a lot of traction.

"Child Pornography" on the Darknet

You may have heard that the FBI has people dedicated to infiltrating the Dark Web. They won’t get very far.
The FBI got into one of the invite only child pornography (CP) sites by accident somehow and, they busted the guy who ran it and his clientele. But that’s it. They have not cracked anything else.
It’s hardly crackable anyway. No one knows who anyone is down there, and there’s no way to find out who anyone is. If a cop or anyone for that matter is wandering around down there, mostly what you are going to see is a lot of weird closed doors to sketchy websites. Everything requires an invite or a password. It’s like walking through a huge hotel where all the doors are locked and there are cryptic, possibly sleazy but hard to figure out labels on the doors.
There are all sorts of weird, creepy, and sleazy sites down there, but the hard cold illegal stuff like child pornography is typically invite-only. And I guess the cops are not going to get an invite. One of the largest child porn sites down there is run by a woman who got molested as a girl and apparently liked it and turned into a child molester or child porn fan herself. She runs it with her husband. No one seems to know who she is, and there doesn’t seem to be any way to find out.
I believe 60% of the Dark Net is CP. Ugly place.
I have never been to the Darknet, and I don’t go looking for real CP on the web. I have friends who have seen it on the chans where it gets posted sometimes, and they told me it is awful stuff, so bad that once you see it, you never want to see it again.
CP barely exists on the real web, and your chances of stumbling across it accidentally are vanishingly small, but that depends very much on how you define your “CP.” There are nine different levels of “CP,” and the top 3-4 levels are more or less legal and are actually not even considered CP.
I am talking about photos of nudist camps where people of all ages, including kids, are walking about naked. There are nudist and nudist camp sites all over the Internet, and you can see naked human beings of all ages on those sites walking about in the woods, sitting on the beach, etc. Remember, nudity is not necessarily child pornography. There has to be some sort of focus on the genitalia or lascivious display of the genitalia.
The stuff with little girls (under 13) is basically impossible to get to on the normal web if it even exists at all anymore (it’s probably all gone Darknet). The stuff with puberty aged girls with adult-like bodies posing lasciviously is accessible on the normal Net but extremely hard to find, and you really have to know where to go looking for it and know what you are doing to find it on more or less “hidden” websites. It’s also dead illegal, and I would not go looking for that stuff if I were you.
I have been told that there are are photos of naked teenage girls posed and even having hardcore sex all over the Net. Teenage girls have quite a bit of their own posed nude stuff out there. They post their nudes or porn pics to their personal social media pages like Twitter. There are definitely Russian sites where that post a lot of underage  teenage girls. They’re mostly standing in front of a mirror, standing in their bedroom or by the pool, and playing at the beach. Those sites are quite hard to find and are quite hidden and not marked well. Nevertheless, I am pretty sure that all of the photos described above are legal anyway. But most people are so afraid that it might be illegal that no one in the US wants to post it.
If it looks like she could be 18, there’s no way to find out if she is or not.
I am also told that there is a lot of hardcore porn with underage teenage girls all over the Internet, but I’ve hardly seen any myself other than one famous one by the Bang Brothers that has millions of views by now. She’s 15, but you watch that video, and she doesn’t look 1% different from the legal 18 year olds out there. Nothing’s going to happen if you watch it because LE would have to put millions of men in jail or prison by now.
Hardcore porn with underage teenage girls, although reportedly common, is very hard to find for real though because you are never sure if she’s really underage unless someone tells you. Almost no hardcore porn on the Net actually says it’s an underage girl, and the rare stuff that is might just be marked “16 years old” just try to draw in viewers looking for taboo stuff, and it might not even be illegal. Might be an 18 year old girl with a “16 years old” tag on it to draw in viewers.
What there is instead is a ton of porn out there with young looking teenage girls saying generally saying “18” on it, and Lord knows if the girls are 18 or not. They always look like they could be 18. Unless they know who she is or she could not possibly be 18, LE has no idea if it’s even “CP,” so it stays up.

Extremely Disturbing "Pedophilia" Video


There is actually some truth to this. Quite a few minors who were “victims” of “pedophiles” feel this way, male and female. However, to be fair, most of the accounts that I have read were from people who were teenagers at the time having sex with adults. It is quite common for people who had sexual relationships with adults as teens to feel that the experience was positive. I have read quite a few such accounts.
However, this is the first account I have read from someone who was an actual child – under the age of 13 – who said that they enjoyed the experience. She was 12 and he was 23 when they met. The relationship continued for a year until she was 13 and he was 24, and they forced him to move.
I do not think kids (people under age 13) ever really want to have sex with anyone much, especially adults. They do engage in childhood sex play a lot, but they’re not doing that because they’re horny, and they want to get laid. They’re doing it because they’re curious.
However, when I was 20, a 12 year old girl propositioned me, that is, she asked me to have sex with her. I worked as a janitor at an elementary school and as a 6th grader at age 11, she was my little “best friend.” She was my “little helper.” She befriended me for some reason and used to go on my rounds with me “helping me” on my job.
She talked a lot about what was going on in her life. She was the child of a single Mom, and she told me about how her Mom used to get drunk and have different men over to have sex with them. So she was pretty worldly, 11 going on 20, in that respect.
If you ask me if I had any sexual feelings for this 11 year old girl, I would not know how to answer because honestly I am not aware if I ever saw her in a sexual way. 11 years old girls are not something I think of as sexual beings or sex objects. To me, they seem “sexless.”
I saw her that summer in the park where we both were running. Now she was 12 going on 25. We got to talking, and she out and out more or less asked me to have sex with her.
Her: I’ve been thinking about sex a lot lately.
Me: Um, uh, yeah, ok…
Her: I’m thinking I want to do it.
Me: Uh, yeah, um, well, uhhh…
Her: And I’m thinking I want to do it with you!
I forget what I said afterwards, but it was something like thanks but no thanks.
Because she asked me to have sex with her, that turned into a sexual type experience in my Sexual History file in my brain. Although she was beautiful and interesting in other ways (top student, star athlete), I wasn’t really interested in having sex with her, and it was not just because of the law. She just didn’t seem like someone I could have sex with at that age. She was just way too young.
In later years, I used to try to fantasize about having sex with her, not because I am into 12 year old girls (I absolutely am not) but more because I am a pervert and I love to think about all sorts of weird, perverted sexual stuff just for the heck of it and as a way of telling society to go to Hell.
The weird thing is I could never make the fantasy work. In the fantasy, we would both be naked next to a bed and I would go to have sex with her, and it never worked. I simply could not and to this day cannot imagine having sex with such a young girl. I do not know what it is. She’s too little and I’m too big. Her vagina is too small and my penis is too big. She has almost zero tits. Or maybe just I’m too old and she’s too young. Whatever it is, the two parts of that fantasy, her and me, are like oil and water.
Anyway, this is an extremely disturbing video that adds a very weird new angle to the whole insane Pedophile debate, an angle that is sure ti ignite a lot of hot emotions.
If you ask me what I think should be done in such cases, I really have no idea. My basic view is men should not be messing with 12 year old girls. It’s just too much of a little girl. It’s just about real pedophilia, and the Hell with pedophilia.
If I think about it more, maybe we should look at this stuff at least with regard to teens and adults more on a case by case basis, and if the minor is totally fine with it, that is, if it is completely consensual, maybe we should not prosecute. But maybe in a case this this, we should tell them to knock it off. Which is precisely how the police dealt with it in this case. But I am not sure of those opinions either, as my feelings are pretty embryonic about this sort of thing.
Right now the law is pretty clear, and any man messing with a 12 year old girl, consensual or not, deserves whatever is coming to him. Not because he’s a bad guy necessarily but more because he’s an idiot. The laws are deadly about this sort of thing, and any man breaking those laws is insanely reckless and I have no sympathy for him or reckless fools in general. I generally feel that reckless fools deserve whatever comes to them, good or bad. They’re asking for it.

Is This Child Pornography?

Justin Y writes:

YouTube might ban the video cause they don’t want a bad image, but the movie and images aren’t illegal in the United States. In other words, videos like that are “bad for business”.RL: That video was illegal.

The video in question was discussed here in a previous post. A commenter posted it to Youtube and linked it to the comments section of this site, I was suspicious of it especially after his description, so I went to Youtube and looked at it. I watched the video, and then I reported it to Youtube as child pornography. I doubt if I had to do that, but I felt compelled to for some reason. Also I sort of wanted to protect myself for watching it to see what the content was. Youtube took it down within 24 hours.

Video was shot by a White American man with a taste for pubescent girls. He also liked older females and women. Whether he counts as a hebephile or not is not known, but his intense interest in Lolitas probably qualifies him as one alone, since honestly most older adult men are just not particularly interested in Lolis. It’s not true that they have no interest in them at all – studies show that normal men are attracted to 12-14, but only at a lesser rate than to mature females whom they prefer. The attitude of many men towards a girl that age is, yes, there is something to be attracted to there, but it’s not much, and the general POV is something like, “Meh.”

This man traveled around the world so he could have sex with 12-14 year old girls in countries around the world where no one cares about this stuff. He told me he met a lot of other men in these places who were doing the same thing as he was. He told me, “A lot of men will pay good money to have sex with a 12-14 year old girl.” That doesn’t surprise me at all, as I know my gender pretty well. But it’s not something that interests me now, that’s for sure.

The video was shot in the back of a bar in Colombia. The videographer had drunk half a bottle of hard liquor and was pretty loaded. Apparently he got a 12 year old girl to get up on a stage and do a striptease. Perhaps he paid her. I have no idea. Anyway, the video is an account of this striptease. Her sex drive has already come on (this is obvious – don’t ask me how I can tell) and she seems to be enjoying herself. The video is very lascivious with a lot of closeup shots of the genitalia.

Later she gets in the shower for a bit where she is joined by a boy who is maybe 14-16. The mess around a bit in the shower and then retire to a bed where they play around a bit sexually, but no sex occurs.

Is the video illegal?

It is indeed.

Child porn laws are completely nuts, and it often very had to tell if something is illegal or not. However many cases are clear-cut.

Simple nudity of minors is not illegal. There are photos of naked kids all over the Internet. These photos also include many pics of naked teenage girls, many of whom are underage. You can go look at them to your heart’s content – it’s completely legal. Those photos are all in the context of “nudist photos.” They are generally taken outdoors, the minors are often accompanied by other naked minors, and not uncommonly there are adults walking around too. Just kids and adults walking about naked in the outdoors in all sorts of scenes, often at beaches, near bodies of water, or in wooded areas.

That’s all completely legal because simple nudity of anyone of any age is not illegal. Nude pictures of minors are only illegal if there is some sort of lascivious sexual display involved.

It’s hard to say what that might be, but the video of the 12 year old girl doing a lascivious striptease, especially with all the closeups, clearly qualifies. It’s not that she’s naked, no one cares about that. It’s more how she is being naked. This is what is important.

When she’s in the shower, that’s probably legal. When the boy joins her in the shower, things get a bit dicier. See what I mean when I say it’s hard to figure out what’s legal and what’s not? When the two retire to the bed naked and play around, that’s probably illegal. You probably can’t show a minor couple aged 12-15 naked in a bed doing sexual things to each other even if they don’t have sex.

The video poses some important questions. First of all, no one gets hurt. The girl’s having a blast the whole time. The boy doesn’t get hurt either. He’s having a blast himself. If no one got hurt, why is it illegal? And I do think it should be illegal.

I think society is not so much bothered by what is going on in the video (which is just harmless fun) but by the idea that adult men are sitting around in front of computers with their dicks in their hands masturbating to this 12 year old girl doing a striptease. That’s really upsetting to people. Society thinks that men should not be able to have this sort of material as a masturbation aid. There’s something creepy and unseemly about it. I would have to agree with society on this point.

Nevertheless, there is nothing wrong with the video per se. Suppose the girl herself had the video and only watched it herself, with the boy, or with her friends?

Any harm? Nope.

Should it be illegal? Maybe not. Maybe minors can make sexual photos and videos of themselves and pass them around to their friends. I certainly don’t think it’s child porn. They don’t belong in jails or prisons for possessing this stuff. But society doesn’t seem to like it anyway. In that case, perhaps society ought to simply seize the material when they find it in the hands of the minors.

There may be other problems.

Some enterprising minors may take photography of themselves or their friends naked or having sex and then try to sell the videos on the market, especially to adults. Now these kids are pretty much manufacturing and selling child pornography. I don’t know what to do about them, but it shouldn’t be legal.

Here’s another one.

Suppose as a minor, you and your friends made and accessed a lot of sexual material of minors nude and having sex with other minors. You kept it around, and now you are an adult male. You continue to look at this old material from your teenage days as you age, to age 20 to 30 to 40. Now you have a 40 year old man masturbating to videos of what is legally child porn produced by his friends during his teen years. Now what?

I have not the faintest idea what to do here as it opens up a lot of interesting legal and philosophical issues.

Naked 12 Year Old Girls Are Evil

If you ever want to see a naked 12 year old girl, here’s how to find one. Go look up the video of the scene with Brooke Shields in Pretty Baby. It’s on the Net. For some reason apparently it’s not child porn yet. Brooke is working or living in some whorehouse and someone walks in on her in the bath. She stands up and tries to cover herself up with a bath curtain.

This video scene is considered very underground and it’s much whispered about as some sort of “hard to believe it’s legal” shock video on the Net. But a funny thing happens if you go and watch it, which you can do, perfectly legally too I might add.

You watch it and you think, “Wow. Is that all it is? Why is everyone so excited about this. This is nothing. This is bullshit. This is stupid. Why would anyone get turned on by this?”

That’s because even though it’s Brooke Shields, yes, to any normal man who sees that video, it doesn’t look like much anything. You can’t see a whole lot and there’s not much to see anyway. She has no breasts. No body hair. Her body is shaped like a stick. The long legs are nice because that’s starting to look like a woman, but the rest is just a joke. It’s not exciting. It’s not a turn-on. It’s actually stupid. You watch it, shrug your shoulders and say, “Meh? What’s the fuss?” Because there’s nothing even slightly erotic about that video.

I will confess to something now. Some put a link to what has to be classed as “child porn” in my comments section. They uploaded it to Youtube and linked to the Youtube video on my site. I followed it to Youtube, was disturbed and wanted to check out just what this highly dubious and maybe illegal video was that this guy linked to. He said he shot the video in the back of a bar in Colombia, and the girl was 12 years old.

So I watched. It’s a 12 year old Colombian girl doing a striptease in the back of the bar. The camera angle is pretty lascivious, so that’s legally child porn. She seems to be enjoying herself as she is doing this striptease. She’s finally all the way naked, and there’s not much there. Her breasts are there, but they are so small it is ludicrous. Nothing attractive. Her body is stick-like. She has a little girl face, and she acts like a kid. She has a tiny bit of pubic hair, but they’re shaving that off now anyway.

After she does her little show, she gets in the shower and washes off. A teenage boy maybe 14 years old joins her in the shower. Later they retire to a bed where they mess around a bit but don’t have anything resembling sex.

I watched it and the whole time I was thinking, “This isn’t even erotic. This girl doesn’t even turn me on. Why would anyone get turned on by this?” and most importantly, “Why is this evil? Why is this horrible? Why is it sick, vile and diabolical?” because that is what everyone tells us “child porn” is.

The video is not sick, evil, diabolical, horrific or awful. Mostly it’s just boring. You’re lucky if you can stay awake.

But more importantly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what this girl is doing. Yes, she is doing a striptease. At that age, her sex drive may well be coming on, and surely teenage girls probably like to do stripteases in their bedrooms? Or for their boyfriends? Or with their girlfriends? Is that evil? Why is a pubertal girl doing a striptease and obviously having a blast “evil?” How did she get harmed by doing this striptease? We need to know this because anti-CP folks insist that this girl was obviously “harmed” by this video. How did the video hurt her? How did the striptease hurt her? Was the striptease harmful in some way?

Why is it evil to show a 12 year old girl in a shower? 12 year old girls get in the shower every day, right? Is that evil or something? Is it sick? It’s “sick” for 12 year old girls to take showers? Why? Did this girl get hurt by taking a shower (because anti-CP folks say she got hurt by this filming so apparently the shower was harmful)?

Yes, she plays with the boy in the shower. A couple of pubertal kids having some sex fun.Yes, later they retire to the bed and mess around sexually a bit, like 12-14 year old’s do all over the damn world every single day. Is it “sick” for her and the boy to mess around in the shower? Is “sick, evil and horrible” for them to play around in bed? Why? Was she harmed by playing with the boy in the shower or the bed (because anti-CP folks say she got hurt)? How? How did messing with the boy hurt her horribly, perhaps irreparably?

Ok, so after I watched the video, what did I do? I reported it to Youtube as child pornography, as is my duty as a citizen. I checked back in a day, and it was gone.Then I banned the idiot who put that on my page and blasted him in the comments for putting CP on my website. He apologized profusely and soon circumvented the ban. I let him stay because he promised to be good.

But I was still disturbed. Yes I watched it, determined it was CP and turned it in, but did I break the law by doing just that? Once you see it, you break the law, right? Ok, so how is anyone supposed to turn this stuff in ever, considering that by merely seeing it they are committing a serious crime?

Are there not anti-CP groups who range around the net finding CP and reporting it? Indeed there are, and I have been to some of these pages where  you can sometimes follow their links to what they call “CP” (really just naked young girls). But everyone in that vigilante group had to look at that page in order to turn it in, right? Did they break the law by looking at the page, even though they had to in order to turn it in?

Society acts like a video of a naked 12 year old girl is the most evil thing on the planet, and anyone who sees one is a diabolical pedophile scum. We all must be shielded from the Satanic evil videos of naked 12 year old girls, the sickest, most vile, most disgusting and perverted and twisted photography on Earth!

Can someone explain to me why society is so freaked out about this sort of thing? There’s nothing to get excited about, there’s nothing even to get interested in, but if some man glimpses this ultimate abyss of boredom, we act like he needs to be shot on site, beaten to death or sentenced to 50 years in prison? What for? For looking at one of the least interesting things known to man? What’s wrong with people?

I do not think this sort of thing should be legal, but is is really sick, evil, horrific, monstrous, diabolical, and vile? Why? It’s a naked girl. So what? Is that a bad thing?

Aerosmith, "Cryin'"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr-bs3t1E34
Great music from very late in their career in 1993. I like the first four albums a lot, the self-titled first album, the second album, the great Toys in the Attic and maybe the best of all, Rocks. After that, they seemed to go downhill in my opinion. I had no idea that they were still making great music this late in the day. Tyler looks pretty old, but he’s still up there rockin’.
I always liked Tyler because he is very much an androgyne in the Iggy Pop – Mick Jagger style, but he is still very masculine as they are. And of course he was always heterosexual. Steve Perry seemed like a bit of an androgyne too, and boy did he have presence. It’s a great gender style for a guy!
They got into drugs really bad and sniffed up half of Peru, in Tyler’s words. Glad they got clean before they all died. Perry still looks great, healthy, charismatic and very good-looking at this late date. I know Tyler looks old, but he looks pretty damn good for an older guy. If I could look so good at that age.
Extra Lolita points for Tyler, at age 28, for snagging a 15, year old girl, (Julie Holcomb), making her into his girlfriend and then being so charming that the girl’s parents made him her legal guardian so she could live with him. Wow! He got to be her Dad and her boyfriend at the same time!

Julia Holcomb and Steve Tyler, 1970's. She was probably 17 years old when this photo was taken.
Julia Holcomb and Steve Tyler, 1970’s. She was probably 16 years old when this photo was taken.

And he pulled this off without being arrested! Good show, good show!
She got knocked up, and he convinced her to have an abortion. The abortion did a big number of both of their heads for some reason.
Then he started cheating on her with Bebe Buell. Many late night suicidal phone calls from Julie ensued.
She left him with nothing more than she had come to him with which was nothing. Later she married a man, had seven kids and at some point converted to Roman Catholicism. She is now very active in the pro-life movement.
Julia Holcomb, possibly 15 years old in this pic.
Julia Holcomb, possibly 15 years old in this pic.

Her story is here.

Pedophilia Versus POCD Redux

Anonymous wrote:

I’ve had pure O my whole life. As a child it was both religion and contamination related. As I got older it turned into health and contamination related. (I became an atheist and stopped caring about intrusive anti-religious thoughts.)
But here’s where it gets a little tricky. When I was 10 years old and just discovering my sexuality, I noticed that I especially had a fondness for girls who were 5-7 years old. I knew this was much different than others my age, and felt quite guilty about it. I was also attracted to 10 year olds, however.
As I got older, every time I saw a cute little girl, I would avert my eyes and repeat to myself in my mind “I’m not a pedophile, I’m NOT a pedophile.” It felt very much like the intrusive thoughts from my OCD and happened constantly. This continued until around 16 years old.
At this point, I became interested in anime and the primary school aged characters in these shows. I talked to others who were interested in animated little girl characters also. At this point, I was still having intrusive thoughts, but being interested in the fictional characters didn’t bother me at all.
And then, in the same places where I was discussing these fictional characters, people would also often post pictures of elementary school girl models and actresses. I began masturbating to these photographs, but every time I would feel immensely guilty and hate myself for it.
Awhile later, I met a 6 year old girl. She began visiting us often. I just fell in love. In no other time in my life had I felt this way before. She was a joy to be around and extremely beautiful. We became very close, and I cared for her more than anything. After meeting her, all intrusive thoughts stopped and I accepted my attraction as normal for me.
I’m now in the my early 20s, and have very little interest in women. The pedophilic intrusive thoughts are no longer there, only the ones based on health worries and contamination remain.
I do have sexual thoughts about young girls, but I see them as normal for me now. Although when I see a cute girl that I’m interested in, it’s closer to crushing than lust. “Oh wow, she’s so beautiful.” The girls that I tend to like are between the ages of 5 and 11. They are just so cute.
Now, based on this information, do you think I have a pedophilic orientation? Or do you think it’s possible that I had POCD and just gave up fighting it?
A few things to consider: I would never touch a girl, I know it’s wrong.
It also has nothing to do with being dominant. I actually find the idea of dominating a young girl extremely disgusting.
It also is not only physical, I am extremely attracted to the personalities of very young girls, and just hanging out and playing games with them have been the best experiences I’ve ever had in my life.

This is a fascinating post. It shows that someone can have both OCD and pedophilia, so the notion that OCD’ers are too good or too moral to develop pedophilia is not correct.
Pedophilia in my opinion is simply a sexual orientation like homosexuality, bisexuality or heterosexuality. It can’t be much changed like any of those. There are countless gay and bisexual OCD’ers. I know because I have talked to many of them. Surely there must be some OCD’ers with a pedophilic orientation.
It’s probably better for a pedophile to have OCD than to not have it. The OCD pedophile will be a lot less likely to act on his urges due to his extreme morality, guilt and conscientiousness. The OCD will act as an inhibitor towards acting on the pedophilia.
I am absolutely certain that he has pedophilia. There’s no way that he could possibly have POCD and just gave up fighting it. Though it shows that there are some similarities between POCD and true pedophilia, and this shows how differential dx is so difficult with these cases.
I am actually sorry to hear that he has no attraction to adult females, but perhaps this is his normal orientation. I wish he had an adult attraction so he could live and love happily and legally in our society. As is, his sex life may well be barren or solitary and his love life may be thwarted.
However, many pedophiles are absolutely happy with their orientation and love being this way. He seems like he is too. I am very glad to see that he is happy with his orientation and his sexual and love desires. I love to see people who are happy. I agree that him that he should not act on this orientation as it’s illegal.
If he ever wants to have a real sex life with a female or really fall legally in love with a female, he will need to expand his love map to include adults, though most pedophiles have no interest in doing this. In fact, many to most pedophiles say that even if there was a cure for pedophilia, they would not take the cure.
I also love females of all ages. I love females period. Little girls are wonderful in a special way as a special kind of female, though I see them as seeds of women rather than fully formed entities and I see women as the fully town product rather than girls that moved on.
But there’s a girl inside every woman, and a budding woman inside every girl. If you love females, you learn to love the sprouted seed of girl in the woman and the sprouting woman in the girl. In a way, they are one and the same – females at different stages.
I actually like teenage girls a lot more than little girls. Little girls seem ridiculous to me, and there’s little sexual attraction there. I had a world full of good and great times with teenage girls, often sexual, when I was young, and I think about those wonderful days all the time. When I see teenage girls, I reminisce. About the teenage girls that I knew and loved, who will live forever in my heart.
Though when I do meet a teenage girl nowadays, they seem silly to me, and I can’t see getting involved with them. I would not do it even if it was legal. But the teenage girl is definitely a special type of female – not a girl and not a woman. Not better than a woman or a girl but only different.
I probably like adult females 18+ best of all, since they are legal. I like teenage girls who are fully developed, around age 16-17 because to me that’s just a woman. But their immaturity is a massive turnoff. Even young women of college age often turn me off now because they seem to immature and silly.
A fully formed and mature woman is not only maximally attractive to me (all females age 16+ are maximally attractive to me) but her mind is also fully matured, and that is a massive turn-on to me as I get older. Sex and love is more than just a hot body you know. And the fully formed and fully matured woman has a joyous wonder and glory about her that is equal to if not superior to that the teenage girl and the girl. All the female maturational types are wonderful in their own special ways.

Evolutionary Reasons for Male Attraction to Teenage Girls

George writes:

It’s 20,000 BC. You’re living in a small foraging society and need to secure a wife that will give you as many offspring as possible and ensure your genes will pass down the generations.
So what age of bride do you go for?
It’s simple. The best bride material will be girls approaching their first pregnancy since they would have all of their breeding years ahead of them and the time you’d have to wait before she’d start giving you any offspring would be at a minimum.
So what was the typical age of a girls first pregnancy in prehistoric times?
Using modern day foraging societies as a guide, it was probably about 17. This means that girls in the 12 to 16 bracket would have generally made the best bride material.
Now go take at look at what porn groups get the most traffic: Jailbait, schoolgirls, Lolitas…
Girls between about 12 and 16, in other words…

I have checked out some of the Reddit groups like Jailbait and whatever and I also checked out the Jailbait site where you get to vote on how old they are and read the comments below. On both sites, the girls are clothed, so there’s no violation of “child porn” laws.
On the Reddit site, I kept thinking, “Why would anyone want to look at this stuff anyway?” On the Jailbait site, it was interesting because you get to vote on their ages, but I also thought, “What’s the big fascination with this site anyway? Why are these girls so special? Who cares about them?” I didn’t always feel this way, so I guess I must be getting old.
There are probably evolutionary reasons for this. Gary is right. On the other hand, as we age, most men grow out of our attraction to teenage girls, even though it is quite normal.
At my age, a 12 year old girl just looks way too young. Is she attractive? Maybe a little bit. But also very underdeveloped and way, way, way too young.
13? Most 13 year old girls also look way too young, and most of them don’t even look that great – way too young and underdeveloped. It’s true that some look excellent, but even with those, you think, “Way too young.”
14 year old girls look a lot better, but even they are rather flat in their bodies, and they also look very young. These are the ones that you try pretty hard not to look at. I find myself looking at them sometimes and remembering back to when I was that age, and some of the 14 year old girls I used to hang around with, be friends with, and even date and sleep with.
When I look at them, I am often just reminiscing about the old days. But you have to be very careful about looking at girls of that age, because at my age, people will see you doing that and get mad at you.
Now 15 year old girls are excellent, it is true. In many primitive societies even today, a 15 year old girl can marry a man of any age. That’s right and proper of course, but a 15 year old girl is awfully immature. Nevertheless, they can be a lot of fun if you are young, and to a young man, they can seem pretty mature.
There were some 15 year old girls around here who looked pretty great. By then, their bodies are getting pretty developed. On the other hand, their bodies are still not totally mature, and their minds often seem extremely silly, girly and immature.
16 year old girls are the cream of the crop, because at this age, their bodies are often fully mature. I don’t know any girls that age around here, so I am not sure what to think of them at my age.
But one came to visit some relatives a while back, a friend of my niece, and she looked fantastic! She also had an interesting mind. Of course 16 year old girls can be a blast for young men because they look great and are often quite mature. I suspect at my age though, I might find them silly and immature. After all, at my age, I even find college girls silly and immature!
All in all, what Gary said is true, but this sort of thing tends to weaken as one ages. It almost seems that with each passing year, the girls look younger and younger and less and less desirable in that way. In Western society, we men are not just prey to our genes but also to our societies.
Our minds are molded by society, its rules and its laws. Teenage girl means “illegal.” In some way, that effects their desirability. You are at least less likely to look at them due to legal and societal factors. Even if they look good, you think, “way too young.” The idea that they are too young is probably an idea implanted in you by society, but nevertheless, society and laws shape your brain the same way your genes do. Humans are more than instinct-driven animals.
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We Get Fan Mail

Well, now I know what rock stars and movie stars must go through. I got one of my first star-struck fan mails the other day, of course from a young woman. Or, to be more precisely, a teenage girl. I’d been communicating with her a bit because she was trying to get to my other site, which is censored by her South Korean government. At one point, she sent a mail that went something like, “You are handsome! I love you!” On and on like that for a while.

She was 16 years old.

It could be someone playing a practical joke on me, but I doubt it. For one thing, it came from halfway around the world, and English is not her first language.

What I think is funny about this is that we recently had a big shitfit on the blog where some idiot teenage girl-children and some of their fool older woman buddies showed up here and called me names, pedophile among them. One of the things that they insisted was that no teenage girl could possibly be interested in a guy my age, which is 52. It’s true, most of them aren’t, and most guys my age ain’t got it going on anyway. But some are and some do.

And if you get to be my age and still attract teenage girls, thank someone above for that. It’s a tribute to looks, charisma, health, or something.

Sean Connery is regularly voted in the Top 10 Sexiest Men in polls of US teenage girls. I’m not sure when the last survey was done, but Connery is 78 years old! Another couple of famous actors, now around 45, also rank high.

This should not surprise anyone. Sophia Loren and Raquel Welch still look great to me at age 72-74. I imagine they look damn good to a lot of teenage boys too. And surely there are plenty of women in their 40’s and 50’s who have lots of teenage boys lusting after them. Sure, we all get old, if we are lucky enough, but if you’ve got it, you’ve got it, and some can keep dealing good hands far past age 40.

What’s funny is that if I write this girl back and play games with her, verbally that is, I guess I can go to jail. There are now new laws on the books called “sexual communication with a minor” (That one scares the shit out of me.) and “grooming a minor,” in addition to the old standby “annoying a child,” – child in this case even being a girl age 17 and 11 months. The same girl, yet a moon away from full womanhood, can also be “groomed,” I guess if you talk to her the wrong way.

“Grooming” is a phrase that creepy child molesters use for molesting little children. It involves winning the child’s trust through friendship before you move to the next stage, sex. It’s insane to conflate their sicko behavior with teen-adult sexuality, which is a whole other ball of wax.

Really, any of these laws ought to be thrown out on grounds of vagueness. I am talking to a teenage girl. At what point am I “grooming her”, “annoying her” or “communication sexually with her?” WTH man? Probably best never to say two words to the little hotties. Even if she asks directions, just walk away.

Oh well, we can still look. No wait, the Femcunt Scum and their White Knight Mangina buddies are about to make that illegal too. What’s the punishment? Teetering on a secondary ledge in Purgatory with the other pervs, eyes sewn shut with a falconer’s steel lids for decades of penance?

Makes you wonder what rock stars and movie stars have to deal with. They probably get bombed with out and out propositions, probably nude photos, you name it, all the time. Surely some of them are teenage girls. What do you do? Burn them in the fireplace? Call the cops? What if you write her back? You’re now going on a Sex Offender List for life?

Fuck this shit, man. This has gone way too far.

How Could You?

There have been some notable cases in the media lately about men who were caught having sex with 13 year old girls. The Roman Polanski case was one. Polanski was 46 years old when he did the dirty deed. The Harry Baker case in California is another one. Baker is 83 years old. This started a big discussion on the blog about men having sex with girls around that age. Thing is, I could never fit a picture to the words. I don’t know any 13 year old girls! Honestly. Why should I? I think there are some around the complex, but God forbid I should talk to them.

A picture of an unknown 13 year old girl with her brother, Mom and dog. Where is the appeal?

So I started wondering what exactly a 13 year old girl looks like. Which took me on an Internet image search. I quickly came up with several images, and I was stunned. They looked so young! I was appalled that these older men could be having sex with such a young girl.

Now, there are girls and there are women. There are also things called girl-women, which is basically a teenage girl. It’s in between a girl and a woman, in neither category. As they start getting up around 16-17, it looks lot more like a woman than a girl. But down around 13 or so, it’s a Hell of a lot more girl than woman. Hell, 13 year old girls still have baby fat on them. Only a year before, they were still playing with Barbies.

Now studies have shown that all normal males react sexually to females all the way down to age 7. The maximum reaction is at 16, and it continues at the same level on up to adult women. That is, a male reacts at the same intensity to a 16 year old girl as he does to an adult female of any age. So saying attraction to 16 year old girls is pedophilia is perverse. If it’s so, then we are all pedos.

Below age 16, the curve starts to drop off steeply, and by age 7 it is nearly gone.

This is a 13 year old Ukrainian girl, Kateryna Lahno, who recently won a major chess championship. Sure, she's cute, but a sex object? You're kidding.

So the only difference between normal males and pedophiles is of intensity and preference, not of the presence or absence of attraction. To normal males, girls between the ages of 7-12 are ho-hum. It’s not that there’s no interest, it’s just that it’s not very strong. I mean, a lot of guys might be slightly interested in doing a sheep if it came down to it and they were in the mountains for six months, but it doesn’t mean that’s what they love.

To the pedophile though the girl from age 7-12 is his prime attraction. He’s not interested in mature females. That’s nothing to him.

This 13 year old girl won a championship in Texas for text messaging, beating all comers. She looks like a little girl. It bugs me to think of any adult male having sex with her. That's messed up.

There are some pictures of 13 year old girls on this page so you can see what I mean.

I will also link to a picture of a nude 13 year old girl, which was taken by a major yet controversial Australian artist named Bill Henson. It’s tastefully done and you can’t see all that much. Various courts have ruled that it’s not child pornography. The only problem I have with this guy is that he seems to be obsessed with shooting nudes of girls around this age. There is something disturbing about that.

I didn’t want to upload it to WordPress because I was afraid they would freak and shut me down. But there are numerous images of this photo on Blogger, so I’ll post it to Blogger and link to it. The interesting thing about this nude is how unerotic it is. I mean, it’s ok, but really, there’s just not much there. You look at her and shrug your shoulders and say, where’s the excitement?

Link here. Click at your own risk.

It’s ridiculous that adult men are having sex with these girls. Keep your hands off em!