Mr. X’s Stepson Bears a Shocking Resemblance to the Young BG Sketch!
An interesting new theory has come up. It turns out that Mr. X has a stepson that looks remarkably like the Young BG sketch. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. He has the same first name and last name as Mr. X. However, his middle name is different.
Stepson X is Mrs. X’s child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. We say this because he has the same first and last name as Mr. X. We don’t know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. X’s. Therefore, after Mrs. X married Mr. X, they must have gone to court and had his name legally changed to Mr. X’s last name. Reportedly this happens a lot in remarriages.
Now onto the match. We recently obtained a photo of Stepson X. We age regressed his photo to age 17, which he would have been at the time of the crime, and it’s a perfect match. It’s long been suggested that BG used his “son”‘s photo, and talk of a “father-son kill team” was actually the first rumor about the killer(s), dating to 7 PM the day they were found. And it’s never gone away.
We’ve been hearing “father-son kill team” off and on for years. At the moment, there is no evidence whatsoever that this young man assisted Mr. X in his crime. It’s simply a possibility, a theory. However, a much better theory is that Mr. X used his stepson’s photo as Young BG, the 19 year old Catfish Boy used to lure Libby to the trails that day.
We agree with Leaker that Young BG’s drawing is based on the photo of the 19 year old Catfish Boy that was used to lure Libby from Snapchat. We also agree with Leaker that the girls were lured to the site that day. In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had “inside sources.” They told us that their inside sources had all told them that “there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime.” So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague.
The stepson, even today, is a dead ringer for Young BG. We are concerned that Mr. X may have used his stepson’s photo, possibly without his permission, as the Catfish Boy used in the luring of the girls. At 17, he was the right age for a 19 year old Catfish Boy. In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. If Mr. X did that, we think that was a pretty lousy thing to do to his stepson.
On the other hand, there is a report from the south end of the bridge by a woman who said she saw Young BG there and scared him off her property. She said his eyes were “dark and evil.” It is unclear at the moment whether the Young BG sketch is from this witness or is the Catfish Boy used on Snapchat to lure in the girls, or if the drawing represents both the young man seen at the crime scene and the Catfish Boy lure. However, the Young BG sketch was the first sketch drawn in the case and was drawn off of eyewitness accounts. It turns out that all of the other witness accounts of seeing BG – the 16 year old girl, the arguing man of the couple under the bridge, and possibly Dan McCain – saw BG with the white scarf obscuring his face as can be seen in the BG video. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. First of all, it bears no good resemblance to Mr. X, the main suspect in the crime. So why does the composite differ so much from the suspect? It turns out that the composite was fake in a sense. The witnesses could only see the top half of BG’s face. The bottom half was covered by the white scarf. So the composite artist simply filled in what he thought the suspect’s face may have looked like based on the description of the top half of the face. It looks like he got it all wrong. That’s probably why LE was saying at the presser that Old BG was no longer a suspect in the crime. They said that because it’s a composite that was junk from the very start and further, looks nothing like the main suspect. There is no good composite of the main suspect because no one s saw BG with his face fully revealed. Hence LE is refocusing onto the Young BG sketch, who looks like both the young man seen a the bridge that day and the catfish boy used to lure the girls. Whether those are the same person is not yet known, but it is possible. At the moment, we have no idea that the boy in the catfish photo is the same young man who was seen at the bridge that day. Perhaps he was, and that would be an interesting theory. But there’s no hard evidence that it is true.
Allow me to explain. We also have zero evidence that BG used his stepson’s photo to catfish Libby. Nor do we have any evidence that the stepson was at the crime scene that day or participated in the crime in any way. Clearly someone who looked like him was both the Catfish Boy and was seen as a suspect at the crime scene, but perhaps it was not this young man. Perhaps Catfish Boy and Young BG are two different people. This is all very confused at the moment. Also, we have not yet confirmed that there was more than one killer involved in this crime, but see below for more on that.
Stepson X being involved in either of these two ways is simply a theory based on the resemblance to the sketch, we are not accusing this young man of anything and we request that everyone absolutely leave him alone. We simply think that he ought to be investigated for possible involvement in the crime, unwitting or not. So he would be a suspect, but half of Delphi has probably been a suspect at one point.
I was even a suspect myself, as ~40 people called me in to report me as BG. I was interviewed by an ISP detective who told me that I was a suspect in the case, as so many others have been. Fortunately for myself, I was 2,000 miles away at the time and in fact, I had not left California in 3 1/2 years prior. A friend of mine was told by the FBI, “Lindsay hasn’t left California in 3 years,” so apparently this is LE’s position at the moment. I mention this because as usual, people in the Reddit Delphi groups are suggesting that I might have been the killer. I’m used to this talk, and perhaps this will clear things up for one or two folks out there.
So you see, saying that someone is or was a suspect in this case doesn’t mean much of anything. LE may have gone through hundreds of suspects in this case.
Another oddity is that Mr. X, Mrs. X and Stepson X all appear to have all vanished off the face of the Earth. All three are listing their new address as that of the factory where Mrs. X works in a nearby town. There’s no way they are living in that factory. God knows where they are really residing. So they’re trying to disappear. I suppose I don’t blame them. But it’s odd that Stepson X seems have to vanished along with his mother and father.
Nota Bene (N.B.): This information has now changed and I have new material that substantially updates this. Simply put, we no longer believe the family has vanished, and we think we know where they are. I would say instead that they are laying low due to all this negative publicity. I’m not sure how much of this I should reveal, so maybe more on this in a later post.
Possibility of More than One Killer in the Case!
There is new news via our detective source in Indiana. He said the notion of two killers “is still in the arena.” He also said, “This has been an active theory since the first day of the crime.”
He added that they didn’t publicize it because the town was freaked out enough by one murder, and they thought the idea of two killers would make people panic.
Also, LE seem to have an actual suspect in mind as a possible accomplice, as he said the possible accomplice is considerably younger than Mr. X and has “a much greater ability to run.” They don’t want him taking off. We have no idea who they may have in mind as the possible accomplice, however, the statement that the suspect is considerably younger than Mr. X adds weight to the notion that the Young BG sketch is based on a person who LE feels may have been accomplice to the crime that day.
It sounds like they don’t have enough to think this possible accomplice was actually involved, similar to the case against Mr. X. Instead, it has been an area of active investigation for four years. He’s a suspect, as Mr. X is, as I was, as so many people have been. In fact, they don’t even know if there were two killers. But Mr. X’s position as a suspect is really up to the level of POI (a higher standard) as they believe he committed the crime. Possible Accomplice is at the level of suspect, and it’s not even known if he was ever at the crime scene that day. But we don’t have any good information about how solid LE’s position on Possible Accomplice’s involvement is. Perhaps they really think he did it. Maybe they don’t. Who knows?
I have been sitting on this information for 5 1/2 weeks because I was afraid that releasing this information might make the younger suspect run, but I have decided now is the right time to release it. If my fears above are real, I assume LE will contact me and request I take down the post. I have had several conversations with ISP detectives. One told me that if I ever wrote anything that jeopardized their case, they would tell me and request I take it down.
Also for those of you who feel I am “damaging the case,” the ISP themselves told me, “We don’t care what you write.” If the police themselves don’t feel that I am “harming the case” as my critics insist, I don’t think I am. Also, according to the deal I have with the cops, they are supposed to tell me when they want anything taken down here for case integrity reasons, and they have never contacted me.
New Leak Confirms Once More That Dolls Were Left at the Crime Scene!
Our critics love to pound us over the revelation that dolls had been scattered around the crime scene. They find it laughable and ridiculous. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. So far it’s been verified in some pretty important ways:
Two female members of the crime scene contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40’s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30’s. Neither woman has ever met the other, so this is independent confirmation from two separate sources.
Both said that dolls were scattered around the crime. One said that in addition to dolls all over the ground, there were dolls hanging from trees. I’m not sure if the second validated the “dolls in trees.” I will have to check on that. The first woman contacted two separate team members in addition to the first person, so she’s told at least three separate people so far. The first person they told was a Delphi podcaster with a good reputation who told another Delphi podcaster who has an immaculate reputation. So it’s fourth-hand, but everything we get is at least third-hand, just so you know. Nevertheless, if you feel that third- or fourth-hand evidence is invalid, feel free to dismiss it on that basis. We won’t object.
When I first heard these rumors from the podcaster, we were both laughing over the phone because it was so ridiculous and insane. Sure, it’s a horrible crime but this crime scene was so insane and unbelievable that it made you want to laugh out loud that someone who ever go to such deranged lengths to stage a crime scene. So I reported it.
Later I found that this same search party member had contacted two team members, and in addition, the second woman contacted one of the same team members. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first woman’s report. I will have to go back and look through my IM’s to see to what extent she corroborated the other woman. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least.
The other elements were are not sure they agreed on are: a giant plush toy animal, possibly a bear; a crucifix hung upside down; dolls hanging in trees; and a knife plunged into a log with one of the girl’s hands wrapped around it to make it appear she had stabbed the tree.
Was the Crime Scene Staged as a Murder-Suicide as a Sick Joke?
I suppose it was also meant to stage the crime scene as a murder-suicide based on the suggestion that one girl hand stabbed the other in the jugular vein and the heart, which would have been plausible at least, and then stabbed herself all over her body, after which she would have cut her own throat, which is much less plausible if not impossible.
She would also have had to stage herself as well as the other girl, lay out the smiley-face sheet, hang dolls in the trees and scatter them on the ground, and somehow place a giant plush toy at the scene. And at some point in the process, she would have sexually violated the other girl with sticks and twigs, while later, she would have to violate herself in much the same way, and then she would have had to have jammed twigs and sticks into the many stab wounds in her body, after which she would have cut her own throat. Obviously none of this could have happened, so it didn’t happen, but apparently BG wanted to stage it to look like a murder-suicide as some sort of a sick joke.
Hatchet May Have Been Used as a Murder Weapon in One Homicide!
Further, the wound to this girl’s throat was so grave that she could not possibly have cut her own throat that way. We now feel that the cut to this girl’s throat was with a hatchet, although we do not have confirmation of this other than what looks like a hatchet in BG’s right jeans area and reports that investigators went clear out of the state to check out two other hatchet criminals. Why on Earth fly all over the country looking at hatchet criminals unless the crime involved a hatchet?
Also the nature of the wound, a cut so deep that it almost decapitated her and would have soaked BG in blood according to the FBI document we obtained – a search warrant – we obtained, that it could not possibly have done with a knife. You need a huge knife to saw someone’s head off – almost a sword – you can watch any of the beheading videos out there to be sure. Also a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. But a hatchet blow sure would have! The report of the girl’s head being only attached by an inch of skin implies a single huge blow with a hatchet because this is the sort of wound a hatchet, not a knife, would have caused.
At Least Four Separate Sources Now Confirm the Dolls Rumor, Two of Them from the Police!
In addition to the two search party members’ reports, we also have a statement from our LE source, a detective in Indiana, that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene and both girls were posed and sexually violated. He said there were so many dolls that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought up a bunch of dolls.
So now we have testimony from three excellent sources – two independent search party members and an LE detective.
However, I just heard via DDcups, a man from Australia, and an excellent poster on the Reddit Delphi subs, that he contacted someone who knew a Delphi police officer, and this person told him his police friend had stated that dolls were scattered around the crime scene. So we have more evidence, albeit the third source one we or our team members never talked to. However, this also is from an LE source, but once again note its third-person provenance.
So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. And as you will see below, we actually have five confirmations of the dolls story, three from LE and two from searchers.
We’ve Hardly Had Any LE Sources All This Time
Critics claim we have all these LE sources but, we don’t. In four years, we only had two LE sources, and each of them told us two whole sentences. Further, they didn’t tell them directly to us. We got them third-hand from excellent local sleuth JM, whom I trust completely:
A sheriff’s deputy in a nearby town who stated: “One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy.” This would have been found on autopsy and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? It says, “We have a secret” and photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? If so, how did she find out. Girls age 13-14 are notorious for missing periods some months and may even miss them for months at a time. This is why it’s so hard to get girls this age pregnant. Girls stay in the “hard to knock up” stage from ages 13-15. From age 16 on, they’re fertile as a rabbit. It almost seems you could knock them up just by brushing up agains them. This is probably evolutionary as pregnancies in 13-15 year old girls are notorious for having complications for both the mother and the child. It is not until ages 18-19 with the completion of the widening of the hips (Yes, girls’ bodies keep developing after 17) that a female is completely suited for pregnancy. From 16-17, females are very fertile but their hips are not wide enough to give easy birth to a child, hence the high rate of complications.
The second statement was from an Indiana detective in another area, in this case Narcotics, who had seen crime scene photos and noted that both girls had been sexually violated with twigs, sticks, and small branches. So this rumor, which we have been beaten up for incessantly, originally came from the police! Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. The detective had had a hard time sleeping at night because the case upset him so much. He finally broke down and told his wife about the girls being violated by natural wooden objects from the forest. She added that in addition, one girl has stab wounds all over her body which in which these wooden objects were also jammed into. So here the first two reports we heard about this came from the police, one directly and the other indirectly. Why accuse us of making up horrible things when we get our info straight from the cops? Go accuse them of making stuff up. Also this rumor has been backed up by a third source, the detective from Indiana, who said “both girls had been violated with foreign objects.” Now we have three references to this statement, all three directly from the police themselves! How many times do we have source this statement until people will believe us?
First Leak directly from the Investigation Confirms Dolls Rumor Once Again!
But now we have a shocking new revelation. We just our first leak from inside the investigation itself!
People don’t understand us at all. They think we have all these fake LE sources that we make up. Ok if that’s true, how come we had almost zero LE sources for four whole years of this investigation? If I’m making stuff up, why wouldn’t I be making up LE sources the whole time? Why would I go four years with only two sentences from LE?
Now onto the latest revelation. Yes, this is third hand We are very excited to report this news. Not is this straight from inside the investigation, it is from a very high-ranking person on that team. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high ranking person. They were chatting at a party recently, and the friend asked the investigator about the dolls rumor in the case, specifically asking if there was one doll or more than one doll. The man thought about his words for a bit before wording them very carefully. Then he said, “There was at least one doll at the crime scene.”
We now have three separate LE source both reporting dolls at the crime scene. And we have independent reports from search party members that agree that there were dolls at the crime scene.
Retired Homicide Detective Joins Our Team!
In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! I spoke to him on the phone, and he’s a very nice fellow. Further he knows the subject inside out. I can’t believe how any of these detectives do what they do. To me they are like magicians pulling rabbits out of hats. In the day since he’s joined, I’m already stunned at how much he’s done. Are these guys even humans?
I will note here that the detective was baffled.
First, he said it sounds like we are right about who the main suspect is. Next, he said he believed most if not all of what we reported the facts of the crime scene would be. He said we had already solved the crime in a sense, and all LE needs is an arrest. We know who did it and what the crime scene looked like. We also have the murder weapons down.
He said he had been researching this case for some time and had waded through all of the podcasters, blogs, and groups, and he had never seen my name even one time.
He said I’m the only sleuth who is telling the true facts of this case and everyone else is chasing red herrings. He was utterly stunned that he had never seen my name before. He said I’m the guy who figured out the crime, yet nobody’s talking about me or my revelations. I patiently explained to him that I am widely despised based on rumors that are either completely false, or, if they are true, are not evidence of bad behavior. I reported the rumors to him, and he agreed that they were nonsense.
He said, sure they hate you, but why won’t they run your stuff even if they hate you? I told him it was because they all hate me and he was still baffled. He thought they should run my stuff anyway no matter what they thought of me.
I told him that MindGeek had done several shows based on my revelations – mostly one three hour show chopped up or repeated over five videos. He told me he was going to go check out the MindGeek video. He also asked if we were associated with a group of retired detectives in Pennsylvania who try to solve cases for fun, implying we were as good at they are. I forget the name of the group, but that’s quite a compliment. Turns out they only work on cold cases so far, and LE has not classified this as a cold case yet.
Dating sites are full of these scammers in the last few years.
A friend of mine almost got nailed for this. Admittedly, hers was a little different.
She out and out told him that she was 17, two weeks shy of her 18th birthday. AOC in California is 18. Well, to a lot of men, “two weeks shy of my 18th birthday” means you’re 18 years old. I don’t care that he did this. In fact, I worry if I would have enough self-control not to.
However, several years ago, a miracle happened, Jesus came back down to Earth briefly and dropped an 18 year old girl in my lap to be my girlfriend. Then he flew back to Wherever.
Truth is she was 17, two weeks shy of her 18th birthday when we started dating or hanging out. We held hands, put our arms around each other, hugged a bit, and kissed pecks on the lips, but that was it. We figured that was legal, but I was really scared to take it any farther at all. But she kept bugging me to take it further and it was really hard to say no. She ended up falling head over heels on love with me, wanted to marry me, have my kids, the whole nine yards, then three months in, she dumps me. Anyway, dating’s not illegal. Anybody can date anyone. It’s having sex that might be illegal
They figure, “Fuck it, she’s basically 18.” I have no idea how the pigs would treat it nowadays. I assume the FBI pigs would probably put you on the Sex Crimes most wanted list for doing it with a girl two weeks shy of her 18th birthday. That’s how deranged the pigs and the system are nowadays, all thanks for feminists.
I grew up in the 1970’s, and no one gave two shits about jailbait teenage girls. They were known as “dangerous” because they’re horny as Hell, don’t have a lot of experience, often think boys their age are immature, and not a few of them love men. Not boys, men. College age men dating high school girls was an absolutely normal back then, but at some point, you might want to knock it off.
They let you get away with it for a few years, but as the man got older, they started cracking down. I remember a case of a divorced 53 year old man who had with a number of 15 year old high school girls in trade for pot and coke. Of course the little sluts knew exactly what they were doing. Most of them love to fuck and they were freely screwing this guy for dope of their own free will. No girl ever got harmed by this nonsense, which is consensual anyway.
Well, he got caught, and even though people were notoriously laissez-faire about this stuff back then. I don’t even recognize this planet anymore in regard to this issue as it seems like I’m living among pod people who are barely even and probably not human. That’s how different things are from 40 years ago. Anyway, this guy got three years in prison. Nowadays he’d probably get beat up as a “chomo,” but back then, prisoners were sane, and he’d probably be the hero of the prison for being an old dog and banging all those hottie JB’s. Yep, even prison convicts have gone insane. Back then, you were marked if you went after little girl children, but no inmate cared about jailbaits.
The interesting thing is that everyone in my family, including me, thought the guy deserved it. Three years seemed about right. There wasn’t really anything wrong with what he did, but we thought the age gap was too extreme. 18-23 year old guy and 15 year old girl, no one really cared. 30 year old guy and 15 year old guy would raise eyebrows, as it was very uncommon, but no one cared about that either. But 53 and 15? Not just one 15 year old girl, but several? Hey, wait a minute. There was something unseemly, disturbing, not quite right, etc. about it. Society has a right to any sort of reasonable morals it wants, and even back then, a lot of people thought 53 and multiple 15 year old girls went over the line.
See, back then, people were sane, not like nowadays when everyone’s a shithead. They believed in degrees and sliding scales and continua and extenuating factors and the spirit of the law, not the letter. Now everyone’s a black and white dipshit twitching with mass hysteria and wild-eyed with moral panic.
Here’s the write-up of the scam I found on the web. It matches what my friend went through.
1. You are on some kind of adult dating or chat site — either heterosexual or gay– where a person says they are over 18, and either sends you (or lures you into sending them) sexy pictures.
2. Then they say that they are actually 16, or 14, or some other age under 18.
3. Next, the “father”, the “mother” or a “detective” calls or texts you and demands money to keep them from filing charges. Often, the money is supposed to replace a “smashed phone”, “computer”, or something else… even a car that the “minor wrecked while going to meet up with you”. Sometimes they “send the minor to a juvenile military boot camp”.
4 The tip-off is that they want payment by Western Union, MoneyGram, iStore credit, Paypal.Me, Snapcash, Zelle, CashApp, money order, or gift cards BUT NOT by cash or checks. 5. Don’t buy gift cards and give them the numbers. Don’t Zelle or CashApp money. There is no minor child, no father, no mother, no detective, no wrecked car, no damaged garage door, and no ruined computer.
6. You are not alone. Questions about this scam come up several times a week here on AVVO.
7. Just to be clear: THIS IS A SCAM. THIS SCAM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. THERE IS NO FATHER, NO GIRL, NO FBI, NO DETECTIVE, NO COUNSELING, NO THERAPY, and NO EARLY TERMINATION FEES ON THE PHONE, and the “girl” does not have a hospital bill from “her” suicide attempt.
8. The best thing to do is block their numbers and ignore them. You can report them to the police for fraud and extortion, but without an ID that is a dead end. They use “burner” phones and spoof caller ID to make you think that it is the police number.
9. If you want to fool around with them, offer to send a check, or offer to meet them somewhere with cash. They WILL NOT give you their name or address, and will not meet with you. Green Dot cards & MoneyPak, Western Union, Target and Walmart gift cards, Cash App or Zelle, Bitcoin ATM machines, eBay, Google Play, iTunes, and Amazon prepaid/reloadable cards and the like are all ANONYMOUS ways to receive money, and the scammers will not identify themselves or they would risk being arrested for EXTORTION.
Note:Very long, runs to 36 pages. “Editorial we” (look it up if you are unsure what it means) meaning “I” is used throughout this document. However, “we” also often means the conclusion of me and my fellow team members too.
Shocking New Rumor Adds More Weight to the Connection between the Delphi and Evansdale Murders!
As we noted in previous posts, observation of the blown up stills from the helicopter video show both girls’ bodies posed in a sexual tableau. A knife appears to be plunged into either one girl’s shoulder or the log in back of her.
We have been accused by the folks on the utterly worthless Reddit Delphi subreddits who won’t believe anything in life until there’s 20 controlled, double blind studies showing it is true that we are simply hallucinating things with our observations of these stills from the helicopter video. It’s nothing but pixels, they say. There are also the usual darker accusations of the photos being doctored, but we are used to that stuff. We didn’t doctor the photos as I myself don’t even know how to work a graphics program. The man who created these images actually works independently as a physicist. He would appear to be beyond reproach with an occupation like that.
If you think that interpretation is strange and we are just seeing things, note that our interpretation of what looks like a knife stuck into either the girl’s shoulder or the log next to it has been confirmed by a female search party member. This woman said that a knife had been plunged into either the girl’s shoulder or the log next to it. The girl’s hand had been wrapped around the handle of the plunged knife to make it appear that the girl had plunged the knife herself into what we now believe is the log. So we do have some independent confirmation of our interpretation of these photos.
We also felt upon observing the photos that both girls’ legs appeared to be spread and they had been posed in a sexual manner or tableau. This was confirmed also by the search party member.
In addition, we still don’t believe it, but there does appear to be a gigantic stuffed animal placed next to one of the girls. You can see it for yourself in the photo.
The search party member did not specifically reference that stuffed animal, but she did say there was a very large “toy at the scene, possibly a stuffed animal, that was so large that BG could not possibly have been carrying it with him on the bridge that day.” So we believe that the photo is vindicated in a sense. At this point we feel that while a massive stuffed animal may not be proven, the presence at the crime scene of “a large toy, possibly a stuffed animal, that was so large that BG could not possibly have been carrying it with him on the bridge that day” has been proven.
We now feel that the knife is plunged into the log on which the girl’s head is resting, which gives us a tiny bit of solace that the murders were a tiny bit less awful than we had thought.
The reason we feel that way is a new completely unverified rumor about the Evansdale Murders that states that there was a knife in a tree at the Evansdale dump site. If there was a knife in a tree at Evansdale, then that knife in Delphi is more likely to be stuck into the log than into the poor girl’s shoulder.
To sum up, a knife was plunged into a log in the Delphi murders. We feel pretty certain about that. A new rumor says there was a knife in a tree at Evansdale. As you will see below, LE now feels that BG also committed the Evansdale Murders. If the new rumor is correct, then knives were plunged into trees at both crime scenes! That’s breathtaking news!
A Brief Overview of the Evansdale Double Murders and Two Dead End Suspects in the Case
Via a newspaper article in the Indianapolis Star and a detective in Indiana who is not working on either case, we have learned that LE now suspects that BG also killed the Evansdale girls.
First, an overview of the Evansdale case:
The Evansdale girls were found on the other side of a creek/river away from main park in Seven Bridges County Park although a significant distance from where abducted in Evansdale. They were taken quite a ways away and found much later. Regardless, the landscape is similar in both locations. In both cases, they had been stalked and taken off public trails before the bodies were found.
The girls were found in a semi-remote location. The park used to be a well-known camping area but was shut down years before, as it attracted some undesirable people (meth, crime, etc.). Delphi’s high bridge was likely known to more folks than people let on like Seven Bridges. The bridge had been there for about 100 years. I imagine kids have been going out there for decades as well as undesirable folks as well. I also imagine Seven Bridges has been used by hunters both in-state and out of state and campers as well.
The Evansdale trail actually wraps around a few streets after Myers Lake, crosses a river, and continues south. It’s a pretty long trail like Delphi’s. It can be seen form the interstate. There are signs for both Myers Lake and Delphi’s trails in each town and I believe also from both highways or overpasses nearby.
Law enforcement will never say that any two cases are connected unless DNA or fingerprints are involved. To say otherwise will sabotage the case in court if an arrest is made in one case but not the other.
Evansdale and Waterloo tend to bleed into one another as well as the city of Cedar Falls, which rests on the opposite side of Waterloo as Evansdale. The three cities rest along the Cedar River and seem to have grown into one another, which has created a larger metropolitan area.
Despite Evansdale having a population of just under 5,000, more than 100,000 people live in the immediate vicinity; giving it a small-town feel but having all the benefits of a much-larger suburbia.
The girls were abducted from Myers Lake, and they were found five months later at Seven Bridges Wildlife Park.
The remains had been somewhat shrouded in an isolated area of the park where foot traffic wasn’t a huge concern; in fact, investigators stated that the remains were placed in a location that someone would have had to have almost been on top of to notice. If anyone was walking a few feet away from the remains, they likely would have missed them.
The abduction of two children at once in broad daylight was such a rare offense that the FBI had only recorded roughly 15 similar incidents between 1974 and the date that the cousins went missing in July of 2012.
A suspect vehicle was seen at the scene were the girls were abducted. It was described as a large, white, full-sized, old-model SUV – possibly a Chevy Suburban or a Ford Bronco – which had been spotted by multiple witnesses near the crime scene between 11:30 AM and 12:30 PM on July 13th, 2012.
Three separate witnesses had seen this vehicle on Arbutus Avenue at around the time the girls went missing – which is located just next to Lake Avenue (where the girls had last been seen) as well as next to Meyers Lake (where their bikes were found).
Similarities Between the Evansdale and Delphi Crimes
The LE source for a couple of the rumors below is a detective in Indiana who did not work on either case.
The Evansdale crime was committed on 7-13-12, and the Delphi crime was committed on 2-13-17. The two dates are perfect reversals of one another.
The two dates – 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. Adding them together gives us 32, a significant number in numerology with ominous overtones.
Strange objects were placed around both sets of bodies. (Source: LE)
Girls were posed in both cases, in a sexual manner in Delphi and possibly in Evansdale also. (Source: LE)
The sets of girls in both cases were trapped at the end of a path from which it would be hard to escape.
There was a knife placed in a tree near one girl in Delphi. Her hand was wrapped around it to make it appear that she was stabbing the tree. There is a rumor of a knife in a tree at Evansdale too. (Source for Delphi: Helicopter video and search party member)
Two girls aged 8 and 10, and two other girls aged 13 and 14, abducted and killed five years apart. One group of girls is 4-5 years older than the other set of girls.
Both occurred on the 13th day of the month: Friday, July 13, 2012 and Monday, Feb 13, 2017.
Both crimes occurred in daylight hours (afternoon).
Girls were at local parks but in an area where they were separated from other visitors.
Both crimes occurred in tiny rural towns.
Small, inexperienced (in major crimes) police forces were first responders in both crimes.
State Rd 218 exists very close to both crime scenes,
Each crime occurred perhaps less than a mile from a four-lane highway.
Trails are located at both Monon High Bridge in Delphi and Meyers Lake in Evansdale, where it is known as the Evansdale Nature Trail/Cedar Valley Nature Trail.
The body types of one set of girls matches the body types of the other set.
At least one girl in each set of girls was an avid online communicator. In the case of Delphi, it was Libby.
At least one girl in each set lived part-time with a grandparent.
Both sets of girls’ bodies were found 50 ft. from a slow moving stream.
Bodies were left in depressions in both cases. The sets of bodies were difficult to see unless you were almost right on top of them.
Body locations in both crimes suggested that the suspect had a familiarity with the area surrounding the park.
Body locations for both crimes are fishing/hunting/outdoorsman spots.
“Bridges” exist at both locations.
Geocaches were hidden at Monon High Bridge, Meyers Lake, and Seven Bridges.
“Rails to Trails” is an active organization in both locations.
Outlets for the Weichman pig company exist in both crime locations.
Tyson pig slaughtering plants are present in or near each location.
Transco Railway products/services outlets exist at both locations or very close (Logansport).
The Jeff Altmeyer Dead End
In November of 2016, in the small town of Onawa, Iowa, a little over 200 miles to the west of Evansdale, two elementary school girls returned home in a hurry. They told their family that a man had attempted to lure them into a vehicle just moments prior.
Two of their older relatives and a neighbor decided to jump into a vehicle and chase after the vehicle that had attempted to lure the two girls, which was just now leaving their neighborhood. The car, a silver-gray 2004 Ford Focus, was easy to catch up to, but the driver tried to distance himself from the pursuing vehicle when he realized that he had been caught.
The car of young adults was able to keep pace with the man in the Ford Focus: a middle-aged white man with dark hair and a goatee, who appeared a little heavyset. When the vehicles pulled alongside one another, the man behind the wheel of the Ford Focus claimed that he was an undercover police officer and threatened violence against his pursuers. Yet they stayed on him for several miles, pursuing him out-of-town until police were able to show up and arrest the man.
The man’s identity was revealed as 58-year old Jeff Altmayer, who lived in Ankeny, Iowa. He had served in the National Guard between 1977 and 1983, and was by all accounts a pretty regular guy. He had been married for over thirty years and now had two adult children that had moved out of his house. He had spent decades working for security companies before becoming an independent security consultant. At the time of his arrest in 2014, Altmeyer was working as a traveling auto damage field inspector, which allowed him to travel through Iowa and the Midwest regularly.
Jeff Altmeyer was arrested and charged with trying to entice children – a crime that he had apparently been committing all over Iowa. His crimes occurred not only in Onawa – which is in Monona County – but also in Jasper and Grundy Counties. In fact, between May and December of 2016, Altmeyer had attempted to lure dozens of underage girls into his car; at times, actually succeeding. Some of these girls were let go a block or two away, but on at least two occasions, Altmeyer had sexually assaulted these victims, who ranged in age from 6 to 13 years old.
The Michael J. Klunder Dead End
For years, LE’s main suspect in the Evansdale murders has been Michael J. Klunder. In 2013, he kidnapped two girls in Dayton, Iowa, not far from Evansdale. He took two girls, but while he was raping and murdering the 14 year old, the 12 year old he took managed to escape. The 12 year old notified police quickly. I don’t have details, but Klunder committed suicide soon after the crime, whether due to police closing in on him or for another reason, I don’t know. Sadly, they found the 14 year old dead too, but the 12 year old escaped and is miraculously doing better than you would imagine.
He was linked to Evansdale right after he killed the girl and himself because it was a year after the Evansdale murders where two girls were kidnapped and murdered. It just so happened there were two people in the same area that were kidnapping and murdering more than one child at once. LE have now fully ruled him out as a suspect in Evansdale, and obviously he was dead by the time of Delphi.
Their new suspect, Mr. X, is a much better suspect for Evansdale than Klunder. For one thing, Klunder’s MO and the Evansdale killer’s were completely different. The MO of the Delphi Killer was much closer to the MO of the Evansdale killer, hence this is why LE now believe that BG killed the Evansdale girls too.
Alibi for Delphi Suspect Revealed to Be a Police Officer (Since Deceased)!
If you recall earlier posts, we stated that LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders who we referred to as Mr. X. Of course, that doesn’t mean he did it. Cops pursue innocent suspects all the time in cases like this. One of the problems with arresting this man for the murders is that he was being provided with a solid alibi that he was in another town when the murders occurred. We always wondered what was so solid about this alibi.
It now turns out that it was being provided by a Delphi police officer who was a friend of Mr. X’s. I assume an alibi being provided by a police officer is solid. This alibi held for three years and 10 months until the officer committed suicide in Delphi, Indiana on December 20, 2020, only five months ago. So now the suspect has a solid alibi, but the alibi cannot be broken because the person providing it is dead.
No reason was ever given for the suicide. We believe the officer worked with the Police Rangers young people group. We can now reveal that the name of this man is Nate Miler. Here is his Facebook page.
Revelation about the Nature of Case Document(s) We Have: At Least One Search Warrant
We are now able to reveal that one of the case documents we have is a search warrant for the Maxwell property. We will not say how we obtained this document. In fact, perhaps that is not the only search warrant in our possession. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn’t. Who knows?
We can also reveal that the following information can be gleaned from this document:
LE is looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and/or film. Why on Earth would LE be looking for photos and video? They would only be looking for that if they thought BG had photos or video of interest in the crime. Which means they think he took photos or video of his crime. This ties in with a rumor, also validated by Leigh Kerr, that BG recorded his crime in a videotape, which he then sent to Abby’s phone soon after the crime was committed, maybe a few hours later. This seems to be a particularly cruel thing to do to a victim.
LE is looking for a gun in order to do ballistics tests on it. The only reason they could be looking for a gun is if a gun was used by BG in the crime. The only reason they would want to do ballistics tests is if they had a cartridge from the gun. This ties in with a rumor that a single cartridge was found at the scene. The document also notes that the gun is a rare model, possibly a collector’s model. The document may or may not refer to a .40mm handgun.
By the way, the leader of one of the Reddit groups also obtained this same document. They obtained it through a public records request.
People are wondering why on Earth we could have obtained a case document from someone who was once a suspect in the case. People have said that they have never heard of such thing. Well, when a suspect is served with a search warrant, apparently the suspect is allowed to retain a copy of the document. So there’s your answer.
Rumor That I Am Getting Trolled, Fed Bad Intel, and Directed in a Wrong Direction
This argument is laid out by the moderator of the Libby and AbbyReddit group. By the way, I am a member of that group, and I even post there sometimes. Funny no one knows who I am! She is not my friend at all, but unlike most such folks, she is actually somewhat fair-minded. Somewhat! I really don’t care if people like me or not as I have more haters than there are stars in the sky (you get used to being hated after a while), but I request that those who feel this way be fair-minded. Your adversaries rarely are, so I felt that her stance should be noted.
Poster X: Ok. I meant blogger RL. One of his sources for the wild signatures claims is a woman in the search party that found Abby and Libby. He says that was corroborated by another woman in the search party, but who knows?
I don’t think blogger RL would intentionally mislead people. I say this simply because I think he, just like anyone else, wants to be right at the end of the day, and if he’s misleading people, he’s ultimately going to look like a bit of a tool.
That doesn’t mean he’s necessarily getting good intel, however.
He claims he has access to court documents that someone who was investigated for the Delphi murders was given after they were covered, as a debriefing I guess? I’ve never heard of LE doing anything like that before. Seems unlikely when LE is so hush hush otherwise. Someone may be messing with him.
I think you’ve alluded before to the fact that it seems like someone out there is intentionally spreading disinformation. It sure does seem like that sometimes. People on the internet being sloppy or trying to develop theories is one thing. People who are genuinely trying to direct people in one direction or another is an entirely different thing, and it needs to be looked at closely.
Poster Y: Oh, one of the women who was very close to the scene was involved with talking to RL the blogger, I heard. I did not witness them talk first hand, but I heard she told him some pretty wild stuff that she was either trolling him with, or if true, is just flat bizarre.
Poster X: Yeah, if what she’s saying is true, then they need to find this sick SOB. They need to anyhow. But he is in a league of his own sick.
Poster Y: Need to be delicate here but good friend of mine who the woman knows and was following along this convo messaged me and said that none of the stuff about the dolls is true and backup proof. Robert Lindsey is getting fed BS by someone else, it sounds like.
Poster Z: I never did believe there were dolls involved.
First of all, this comment:
I don’t think blogger RL would intentionally mislead people. I say this simply because I think he, just like anyone else, wants to be right at the end of the day, and if he’s misleading people he’s ultimately going to look like a bit of a tool.
Of course! That’s so obvious, I don’t know why people can’t figure that out.
Oh, one of the women who was very close to the scene was involved with talking to RL the blogger, I heard. I did not witness them talk first hand, but I heard she told him some pretty wild stuff that she was either trolling him with, or if true, is just flat bizarre.
This is correct. In addition, this very same woman also spoke to another woman who I work closely with Team Member A (TMA). She told this woman all of the very same things that she told me. So that’s very good backup. The search party woman, Search Party woman A or SPA, is in her 40’s and is a typical housewife type, the last person you would think would lie or flake about anything.
Need to be delicate here but good friend of mine who the woman knows was following along this convo messaged me and said that none of that is true about the dolls and provided backup proof.
Robert Lindsey is getting fed BS by someone else it sounds like.
This is the part that needs to be challenged. Supposedly a friend of the SPA who talked to me now says that SPA was trolling me and fed me a bunch of lies.
Problem is that SPA did not just talk to me. She spoke to me and TMA, and she told her all of the same things she told me. So she trolled both of us? Dubious.
In addition, a woman who I am very close to, Team Member B or TMB, also spoke to a search party member, another woman who is different from the housewife in her 40’s named Search Party Member B or SPB. This is a younger woman in her 30’s. SPB told TMB that she is finally going public with what she saw at the scene because it has been eating away at her for several years, and she had to spill to get some relief. SMB verified all of the points that SPA told me and TMA.
Now, even if the SPA both me and TMA (and keep in mind that she’s the last person who would do such a thing), everything she told us has been backed up perfectly by the SPB who talked to TMB. Ok, now SPB is trolling us too? Thing is, I am told that the SPA and SPB have never met each other.
And finally, note that SPA is said to be specifically trolling me about dolls being present at the site. Not only did she also tell TMB there were dolls at the site (specifically, dolls in trees), but SPB told TMB that there were dolls in trees at the site.
And in addition, as noted in other posts, we now have a detective in Indians who is feeding us information. He has never worked on the case, so he is just giving us what he’s heard, which is no doubt only part of the facts in the case. However, this detective specifically us there were dolls at the crime scene:
There were so many dolls, it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought a bunch of dolls and strew them all around.
Ok, now the “dolls at the crime scene” rumor is backed up by an additional search party member and a detective who is privy to the facts about the case.
Still think I am being trolled and fed false information? I think not.
A Question about Mr. X’s Voice
In this Reddit thread, a poster who once felt that Mr. X was the suspect now says he doubts that that is true because Mr. X’s voice is a poor fit for BG’s voice.
Ok, valid complaint.
However, we have information from an Indianapolis Star newspaper article and from a detective in Indiana that a former roommate of Mr. X’s who lived with him during 2011-2012, presumably during one of the periods when Mr. X was separated from his wife, went to LE with his suspicions that Mr. X was BG. The roommate said that BG’s walk was a dead ringer for Mr. X’s walk. He also said the BG’s clothes “looked familiar,” that is, looked like clothes that Mr. X had worn. And finally and most importantly, the roommate said that BG’s voice was “close” to Mr. X’s voice.
So, we will beg to differ with the Reddit poster above, who by the way, we actually like.
Leigh Kerr Now Contradicting Himself on Mr. X
Sigh. I knew this would happen. Based on the information revealed by Leaker, he could only have been referring to Mr. X when he discussed the prime suspect in the case. However, Leaker has now come out and stated unequivocally that Mr. X is not the prime suspect. The link leads to a relevant Reddit discussion about this matter. We are quite upset at Leaker for flaking out on us like that, but we believe a ready explanation is available.
We think that Leaker is covering his tracks about Mr. X, possibly because he doesn’t want Mr. X to get hurt or harassed based on information that Leaker put out there. Nevertheless, Leaker is seriously harming his credibility by flaking like this, and we are not happy campers regarding this man. However, we continue to believe he is basically correct in his leaks despite his recent flakery.
In addition, keep in mind that it is not just Leaker that is saying that Mr. X is the key suspect. We also have an article in the Indianapolis Star and the detective mentioned above that have both verified for us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. So we’re not real concerned about Leaker flaking on us like that, although it shows immature and flaky behavior on his part to change his story like that.
2-13, 2:13, 2/13, 2/13
Remember when the FBI profile came out about BG? Remember when it said that “he may be unusually interested in numbers?”
In the Delphi Murders:
2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. February 13 is 2/13. 2-13
2:13: The girls were abducted at precisely 2:13 PM. We know this because we have an official case document that states this. The document states, for no apparent reason, that the girls were both abducted at 2:13 PM. The fact that LE states this on this important document means that they think this is important. 2-13 again
2-13: Two girls were abducted; one of them was 13 years old, the other but a year older. 2-13 again.
In the Evansdale Murders:
The Evansdale girls were abducted on July 13, 2012. Two girls were abducted at once on the 13th of the month. 2-13.
Judging from the number sequence 2,13 repeating four times across the two murders and the absolutely incredible news that BG timed the abduction so precisely that he abducted them at precisely 2:13 in the afternoon, it does seem that either this sequence has some sort of meaning to him or he is just playing games with us.
In terms of numerology:
2/13 added together gives us 6
2:13 added together gives us 6
2-13 added together gives us 6
Putting the sequences together, we get 666.
That is the mark of the Devil. I’m not saying this is what he was getting at. Instead I am saying this might be part of it.
Quite a Few New Rumors
We have uncovered quite a few new rumors from sources that have tended to be quite good in the past. I can’t tell you who these people are, but one is a woman named JM. JM also has LE connections, and she was the one who gave us testimonies from two LE officers, a sheriff in a nearby country and a detective working in Narcotics.
All rumors are unverified unless otherwise stated. The rumors:
The crime scene begins at the Robinson’s backyard (find it on a map near the dump site) and goes the length of a football field or 300 feet. LE feels that the girls were marched down from the Robinson’s to the kill site where they were killed.
Libby’s phone was found at the scene, but nothing could be obtained from it because it was destroyed. I assume that BG destroyed it. All of the information from Libby’s phone came from the Cloud.
Abby’s phone was also recovered at the scene. She may have hidden it in a tree.
BG wearing a watch on his right hand, among a few other things, indicates that he is lefthanded. Verified.
The bodies were discovered by following two sets of footprints leading down from the cemetery to the bodies. Wait a minute. Two sets of footprints? I thought there was only one killer. And why do the prints lead down to the bodies? You mean the bodies were carried by the men who left the footprints down to the dump site? Verified.
Neither guardian was aware of this, and one of them denies it altogether, but both girls had boyfriends. How this ties into the crime, if at all, is unknown. Abby’s mother Anna bemoaned the fact that Abby died without having ever had her first kiss. Anna has plenty of things to worry about regarding her daughter, but perhaps she can rest a bit easier knowing that Abby at least got to have her first kiss, and then quite a few more if observers at local football games are any indication. Abby’s boyfriend was a 16 year old boy. I am very happy that she died at least having experienced her first kiss! I’m happy to know she got to live a bit before she died! The part regarding Abby is verified.
The boots seized by LE in the bomb threat raid on Indiana Packers are thought to be the exact type of boots that BG was wearing. IP boots are waterproof and extend up to the knee. This would enable BG to walk across the creek without getting wet at all.
I believe there may have been something said by LE about BG’s eyes being blue? Someone check me on this, please. At any rate, the woman who was walking her dog (Is that the woman who saw BG on the south side of the bridge at 12:30 PM?) said his eyes were brown with a hazel tint.
There is a rumor that an unusual knife was used in the crime. Detectives were seen asking around at local hardware stores in the weeks after the crime if anyone had bought a gut knife recently. The rumor is that an unusual knife with a curved blade was used. This ties in with one of the worst rumors of all, that one girl was stabbed her stomach/abdomen and she was partly disembowled. Please note that we have not been able to verify this rumor at all, so it is completely unverified. This may also tie into persistent rumors that one girl was in the early stages of pregnancy. Nevertheless, it does tie in with the facts about LE feeling that a knife with a curved blade or a gut knife was used in the crime. The first rumor about police in hardware stores is verified and the rumor of one girl being pregnant is verified by a local sheriff’s deputy.
BG knew the bridge extremely well. Dan McCain said he walks the bridge all the time, and BG walked the bridge faster than Dan does. BG absolutely knew his way around the bridge and the general surrounding area. Verified.
The Daniel Nations Tie-In: Rumor Says a Hatchet Was Used in the Crime!
This is actually some very shocking news, but it all makes sense. We know that for some reason, LE was very interested in Nations, who had been committing crimes involving hatchets. Indiana LE went all the way back to Colorado to talk to Colorado LE about this crime. We have been told that LE also went back to another state to check out another criminal who had been committing crimes with a hatchet. One wonders why on Earth LE is going all the way back to other states to check out suspects committing crimes with hatchets.
Well, now we have what may be the answer. There is now a rumor from JM above and now from a second source that a hatchet was used in the Delphi Murders. One shudders to think of how it might have been used. However, one of the girls was killed by a deep cut to her neck. Rumor says she was almost decapitated. Another rumor says that only one inch of skin was holding her neck on.
Now, the standard view all this time was that this attack was done with a knife, probably a hunting knife, possibly one of the five hunting knives BG has in that deer kit around his waist. However, if you know about knives and the cutting of throats, typically a homicide victim with a cut throat is not cut very deeply because it is very hard to make a deep cut in a throat with a mere knife.
If you have seen any of the Al Qaeda and ISIS beheading videos, you can see that huge knives were used to decapitate the victims. It’s dubious that BG had a huge knife on him. However, a single blow to a neck with a well-sharpened hatchet could and in many cases would indeed leave such a deep cut that one could nearly decapitate someone with a single swing. Although this is an unverified rumor, it does have the advantage of explaining the odd interest LE had in hatchet criminals in this case.
Chadwell Cleared of Involvement in the Delphi Murders
Chadwell is not considered a suspect in the Delphi Murders. That decision was made two weeks ago!
Via Leigh Kerr on Reddit:
8 hours ago
Chadwell is no longer considered a suspect in the homicides of Abigail and Liberty. I mentioned that a couple of weeks ago on Facebook. Shortly after his arrest, I said I didn’t believe it would be him because he didn’t match the profile.
I figure that Leigh Kerr is correct on this, as he is on most things.
Good Transcription of the Girls’ Conversation Recorded on Libby’s Phone Before the Abduction
This comes from Abby’s mother, Anna. She was told this by a detective. I do not know whether she was played the tape or not – possibly she was. The source is Gray Hughes. Much as I dislike the man, he is very strict about the truth – far too strict in fact – but due to this, you can generally bet that when Gray decides that something is true, it almost certainly is
-Abby apparently looks at Libby and says “He’s right behind me, isn’t he?”
-Abby apparently hurries to other side of bridge.
-Girls discuss which way to go – two ways are mentioned.
-Abby says, “Is that a gun? He’s got a gun!” followed by “click” sound; the police told family that this is the sound of gun being cocked.
-BG says, “Hey,” followed by “Down the hill.” (Obviously we know he said “guys”.).
-There was no further recording that was clearly discernible.
Very Interesting Post on the Possible LE Strategy Behind the Leigh Kerr Leaks
Disclaimer: This is written based on the hypothesis that Leigh Kerr is legit and not some attention seeking idiot like Jordan McCoy. All mentions of SG will refer to Snapchat Guy. Again, I have absolutely no proof that this is true, and what follows is completely written on the off chance that LK is correct. I admit it is a very minuscule probability, as LK is most probably a fraud, but I see no harm in putting this theory out there.
These are all conjectures on my part after carefully looking at LK’s responses and screenshots:
MOTIVE OF LK:
Question: Why did they choose to release this info and why now?
I think finally, with the strategy to find SC with the new sketch completely failing to bring anything substantial, they had to resort to this, with some help from LE in an unofficial capacity.
Question: Why did they release what they did?
Now, this is where the crux of the leak lies. What was the purpose of the leak, if it were indeed legit? It’s easy, right? To find the killer. But it’s more complicated than that. According to LK, the LE already had their prime POI who they were absolutely sure was BG, and they just needed to stronger evidence to convict him. So they were definitely not looking for another POI.
LK also mentioned they needed someone to identify the make and model of the car at CPS building to get a conviction, but this was also already known to the general public.
So what exactly was the purpose of the leak? They had their man but they didn’t have enough strong evidence against him, and they already informed the public earlier to come forward with info on the CPS building, and that was as much evidence as they could get from the general public.
And here’s where it gets really interesting.
There’s a pattern to how LK answered. Everything was carefully vetted beforehand so as to not hurt a conviction. All they revealed was done with the sole purpose of trying to make the public triangulate on the prime LE POI with the little nuggets of info they gave out. This was done in order to put pressure on him in the community and break him, as this was genuinely their last resort, and all other avenues had failed.
LK: I cannot reveal that information without narrowing down the suspects.
I’m sure his response will likely lead to somebody figuring it out, though. So the sole focus of the leaks was to help the public to figure out who LE’s primary POI was and hopefully turn the public discourse on him.
Let’s now focus on the contents of LK’s leak for now. As I said, the leak had a pattern.
It’s like they wanted to tell us who the primary POI is without being entirely direct about it.
LK was quick to shut down with a straight “No” when people were specifically named and asked if they were BG.
The bodies were found in a sexual tableau, locks of hairs were taken off each girl: these were the signatures mentioned by LK. This is big, as I think LK is telling the public to piece together the puzzle.
The primary POI’s cell pinged at the location of CPS building, while it shouldn’t have if his alibi was correct, but this alone isn’t admissible in court for a conviction.
WHERE TO GO FROM HERE FOR LE: As everyone knows, there’s no doubt that Delphi Police did a terrible job at the beginning, particularly in winding up the search party early when they should’ve closed off the area to civilians for a while.
But you also wouldn’t think if they were really good cops, they wouldn’t be practicing LE in a small county in Bumfuck Nowhere. Also, keep in mind this level of ineptitude is probably standard in cases like these in small towns. Their ineptitude just happened to be publicized due to of how famous the case got because of the exceptional circumstances involved, like the existence of a video of the killer.
They have only two ways to convict the primary POI at this point:
If the accomplice or BG himself comes forward and confesses.
If someone comes forward and provides information about the make and model of the car at the CPS building.
Unfortunately, I think they have absolutely nothing else on which to make a conviction.
Imagine their predicament for a moment: You know there’s very, very small, if any, chance of someone coming in after all these years and identifying the car at CPS. If someone does that and it verifies with the car of the primary POI, then case closed. Otherwise you’re completely at the mercy of the primary POI confessing or SG giving him up, as there’s fuck all other evidence to go on.
They opted for an entirely different strategy once they felt sure the primary POI was never going to confess or let up, and there was no use waiting for someone to report the make and model of the car at the CPS building, as with each passing day, the chances of anyone being able to identify that car becomes more and more remote. I don’t think anyone has any hope of that happening at this point.
One thing you can be absolutely sure of is that however bad the initial response was from the LE, the case is now in competent hands with the FBI. Everything being released to the public is being done with a purpose, even if the public can’t exactly infer it, every single word in the later press conferences was scripted and vetted thoroughly, and no word in there was improvised or hadn’t been vetted.
This is one of the most confusing parts for the public. Remember that this sketch is made from the description by a 13-14 year old classmate of Libby’s.
Q: Do you think an arrest will be made next year?
LK: Unfortunately not. If the individual in the latest sketch is not identified, it is very likely that no charges will ever be brought unless more evidence is submitted or another crime is committed.
This is quite telling. It guarantees that they had lost any hope of catching the primary POI what with the evidence at their disposal and primary POI not showing any signs of cracking. I think the April 2019 presser and release of the 2nd sketch was directed at SG, but he’s not BG. LE purposefully misdirected the public in the hope SC would come forward out of fear of being made the primary suspect.
All of the religious references were done to appeal to his conscience, to make him reconsider his stance of protecting the perpetrator. It was not directed at BG, as LE was resigned at that point to the fact he was never giving himself up.
LK: It is unknown if the person from Snapchat was a catfish or an actual person. There are other ways to tie a catfish to a suspect.
“There are other ways to tie a catfish to a suspect”. This could mean BG was related to SG as a friend or relative, and BG could have access to their phone. Maybe SG could be BG’s son or friend.
LK: There is a single individual that claims they saw the primary suspect at a sufficient distance from the crimes for him to not be the perpetrator.
Let’s assume this individual who provided the alibi is the wife of BG (it very well could be), then if SG was their son, there’s a chance the wife would give up BG faster. This could be another factor in announcing to the public about SG being the primary suspect.
The April 2019 presser clearly confirmed that there was a religious element to the suspect. That presser was vetted by FBI, and they wouldn’t allow religious references just because Carter felt like it. And the recurring theme LK was trying to push was religion.
But that narrows down nothing. There are a lot of religious people in the county, but the religious nature of the crime scene would make one think someone nearer to God committed the crime.
SOME PERSONAL THOUGHTS:
I believe LK was briefed directly by members of LE/FBI unofficially, as some of the info LK released wouldn’t have been possible to release in an official capacity. It is my belief that it was a controlled leak. I think this was done as all avenues of getting a conviction have dried up after their latest strategy to find SG or coerce the accomplice (if there was one) to come forward failed.
They were left with absolutely nothing on which to move the case forward and probably some regret in not releasing more info much earlier. I think their only hope was for the public to connect the dots from the info given by LK on who the primary POI was and to put pressure on him, which they can’t obviously ask the public to do in an official capacity.
Yeah, I know its mad to think they would do that, but if they were 100% sure about the primary POI being BG but just don’t have enough evidence to convict him, then I can understand how they would resort to this. But I think they failed spectacularly in this too, as nobody gave credence to LK after a couple of days, and everything he said was rejected as hogwash.
They also failed to consider another aspect.
In a community where religion is strong, it is incredibly tough for people to act on weak rumors against a member of the church. For example, in my hometown some years back, a priest sodomized a teenage boy. When rumors spread, the family was asked by everyone to suppress it, and ultimately it took the boy going to LE himself to get the priest arrested. Now this happened with actual solid rumors. Imagine if the rumors were very weak. Nobody would even talk about it, so that’s another thing LE failed to foresee.
Libby allegedly asked Kelsi if she wanted to go to the bridge with them. This doesn’t make sense if Libby had decided to meet with SG. Maybe Libby wasn’t meeting up with SG but had mentioned they were going to the bridge in passing to SG.
Handy List of Warrants, Suspects, Deaths, Evidence, Etc. in the Delphi Murders
I got this from a Facebook group from which I am a member in good standing. Yes, haters, I am a member in good standing of a few Facebook groups. It was posted by a good friend of mine. She got it from somewhere off the web. Nevertheless, the information appears to be quite accurate. Hope you may find this useful.
Here is just a short list of warrants, POI’s, deaths, and craziness since the murders.
Delphi, IN Maxwell Residence – One of the first residences to be presented with a search warrant in the murders. James Maxwell is cleared.
Peru, IN Unknown Residence – Another of the early residences presented with a search warrant in the murders.
Delphi, IN Logan Residence – One of the first residences to be presented with a search warrant since the girls were found on the owner’s property. Owner was arrested for violating probation but was not home during the timeframe the girls went missing.
Flora Fire – Killed four young girls in November 2016. Still unsolved.
Logansport Fire – Killed six, including three children, in November 2018. Still unsolved.
Daniel Nations – Indiana transient arrested in CO for threatening people with a hatchet. Appearance close to first sketch. Cleared.
Thomas Bruce – Missouri Catholic Supply Store rapist and killer. Appearance close to first sketch. Cleared.
Paul Etters – Lafayette, IN rapist committed suicide during police chase. Appearance close to first sketch. Cleared.
Talmadge Jasper – Lafayette, IN murderer who killed his ex-girlfriend’s boyfriend. Appearance close to first sketch.
Garrett Kirts, Ashley Garth, Christopher Mathis, Jasmine Parker, Talitha Beckley – Newton County, IN murder gang who killed Nicole Bowen.
Garrett Kirts, Ashley Garth – Monticello, IN murder couple who killed Ray Hanish.
Ron Logan – Delphi, IN owner of property the Delphi girls were murdered on. Arrested for violating probation and incarcerated for one year. Cleared.
Charles Eldridge – Randolph County, IN man arrested for child molestation. Appearance close to first sketch.
Mark J. “Joe” Sandifur – Flora, IN man arrested for inappropriate contact with a 13-year-old. Appearance close to first sketch.
Jack Hewitt – Warsaw, IN Indiana State trooper arrested for sexual battery and sexual misconduct with a minor.
Kurtis Fouts – Delphi, IN Supreme Court Judge who stepped down after video released showing him with an escort. Also had an alleged adult mistress who he befriended at 11 years old. Appearance close to first sketch.
Lee Hoard – Delphi, IN prior Carroll County Sheriff named by a woman via her anonymously released journal released that detailed her statutory rape by this man, but there is no proof that he committed this crime. The woman has since died.
Daniel Doe – Rice Lake, WI man who murdered John McCurdy and Anna Downham and set fire to cover up the murders. Committed suicide in Peru, IN.
Ryan Starnes – Bloomington, IN Indiana State Trooper let go from his position after parents made complaint he was in a legal relationship with their 17 year old daughter.
Young Boy (name unknown) – Made a post saying he was with BG when he murdered the girls.
Gabriel Ellis – Kokomo, IN man incarcerated for child pornography and drugs. Resembles first sketch. Was also the last person Karenna McClerkin was seen with prior to her disappearance. Cleared.
Brian Phillips – Delphi, IN man arrested for calling in bomb threat at Indiana Packers plant.
Jason Wilhelm – Lafayette, IN man arrested in Key West, FL for rape in Indiana, firearm theft in Tennessee, and mentioned by the escort who brought the Lafayette sex ring to light.
Kevin S. Jameson – Lafayette, IN man arrested for attempted abduction of an 11 year old girl in Carroll County, IN. Previous sex offender on the Registry.
James Brian Chadwell (JBC) – Lafayette, IN man arrested after kidnapping, beating, and raping a 9 year old neighbor girl. Being investigated to determine ties, if any, to Delphi. Cleared.
Mark McClellan – Mother stated on social media that he is working with the FBI to solve the Delphi Murders. Nothing confirmed other than the original post.
Shawn Harmon – Continues to state that his father and his own son are the people in the sketches, and that his father is the man known as BG captured on video crossing the bridge. Neither father nor son involved.
Gas station attendant who said she saw MP purchase drinks for the girls the day they went missing.
Young girl killed accidentally by her boyfriend.
Young girl committed suicide on bicycle bridge.
Black SUV with stickers on back window observed by Kelli German when dropping off girls.
White vehicle with temporary plates picture and tag number captured.
Suspicious vehicle located at old CPS building day the girls went missing.
Chevrolet truck parked at cemetery but recovered by PB who was part of the search.
Local church vehicle parked nearby the day the girls went missing.
Horse ridden by LM the day the girls went missing. I do not know who LM is.
Witnesses at the bridge the day the girls went missing:
Dan McCain and FSG or Flannel Shirt Guy, McCain’s brother.
Possibly a woman on the south side earlier in the day.
A girl in the girls’ 8th grade class.
Known crime scene evidence:
Libby’s missing shoe.
Libby’s missing phone.
Underwear in water.
Pristine area where the bodies were found.
Known virtual evidence:
Libby performed an iPhone reset one week prior to the murders.
I think it’s one day late, but oh well. His voice sure is great. I always turn him up every time I hear him on the radio. He was way too racist at first and he was an anti-White racist, but we Whites treated Blacks really bad back then, so in a way I’m a tiny bit sympathetic. I liked him a lot better when he came back from Hajj and renounced racism and adopted pan-universalism, which was sort of his message all along except it got clouded with his racism.
By the way, the New York City police Department knew about the plot to kill him and allowed it to happen. There was to be a NYPD detail at that venue that night when he was going to give his speech, but it was pulled at the very last minute so Malcolm had no security. Presumably the detail would have ideally been instructed about the plot and pre-empted it or they would have protected him so well that they would have prevented it from happening in the first place. This confession was made recently by a top NYC police detective who worked there at the time, and his story seems credible. I forget if the FBI was in on it too, but it would not surprise me. J. Edgar Hoover was a sonofabitch.
As you can see, in Matt Gaetz’ case, the whole case is completely fake. The guy literally did nothing wrong. Furthermore, he lacked mens rea, or a guilty mind, so he’s innocent on that basis alone.
He committed the crime of buying a teen whore, except she lied about her age, and told everyone she was 19 when she was really 17. Actually it looks more like 17 1/2 now that I’m looking into it. By the way, she’s still whoring away. Once a whore always a whore. As soon as Gaetz and friends found out, they got furious at her and ended all contact.
Buying a Whore Means You are a “Sex Trafficker”
At 17, in most states she would be legal, but even there, if you pay her, you just committed “sex trafficking.” Yeah, if you buy a whore, you’re a “sex trafficker.” What a bunch of crap. Because the state, in the midst of an idiot moral panic, decided that all teenage prostitution is “sex trafficking.”
Not just the pimps. Indeed, one can make an argument that most pimps are sex traffickers.
Sex trafficking was supposed to mean women who were sex slaves and forced to prostitute themselves and were not able to escape. This is literally the case with most pimps, though most whores are quite willing to whore themselves out. But most pimps won’t let them leave.
So anytime you see an hysterical headline about “sex trafficking,” it just means whores and pimps, which is like, most whores. Whores have had pimps forever. So there’s nothing new going on here, just the same old same old.
But now all teen prostitutes are supposedly being “sex trafficked” too because that’s how they wrote the stupid law in 2012. Even if they’re doing it on their own, which I assume many are. In that case, apparently they are trafficking themselves! See how none of this shit makes sense?
And now if you’re unlucky enough to buy the services some teen whore is freely offering you, instead of just buying a teen whore, you’re a “sex trafficker”! Yep buying whores is “sex trafficking”! Isn’t that stupid? I would say if you want to make a crime out of it, calling it “Purchasing an Underage Prostitute.” It shouldn’t be much of a crime really, but at least the law would make sense.
In many US states, you can freely fuck all the 16 and 17 year old girls you want, but as soon as you hand her a dollar bill (or I guess a penny) for her services, you broke the law! You’re now a “sex trafficker.” Isn’t that stupid? And you go on the idiot Sex Offender List as a “sex trafficker.”
Also, don’t take a picture of her. You can have sex with all the girls you want as above, just don’t take pictures of any of them. Because if you do, you “manufactured and possessed child pornography.” You know, when we made the kiddie porn laws, I don’t think this is what we were thinking of. And you go on the Sex Offender List as a child pornographer.
Kids are getting busted all over the country for manufacturing, distributing and possessing child pornography when they do their sexting. I don’t have the solution to teen sexting but this insanity doesn’t seem to be it.
By the way, those lists are getting really stupid. There are now 3 million people, almost all men, on these stupid lists. Anyone feel any safer? Somehow I think when we came up with the idea for these lists we didn’t imagine putting 3 million Goddamned men on the list!
By the way, if you commit statutory rape, you go on the idiot list too.
And most states have Sex Offender laws that make it almost impossible for sex offenders to live anywhere except maybe under a bridge. Which is exactly where most of them end up living. I’m sure that’s going to rehabilitate them real good and I’m sure they won’t be more likely to commit new offenses! The worse you treat these guys, the more the offend. Well, that’s the case with child molesters anyway and even with non-offending pedophiles.
These Sex Offender Lists and laws have gone completely out of control. I don’t know what to do about this either, but this ain’t it.
I really wish the Left would being so gay and faggoty about this stuff and quit calling men pedophiles for doing what comes perfectly naturally to them – fucking teenage girls.
Matt Gaetz is the Left’s latest obsession. Yes, we’re screaming that he’s a pedophile. And the government is going after him on bullshit sex charges.
Here’s what it’s all about. The allegation is that Gaetz paid for the services of an underage prostitute. He supposedly paid her for sex and her paid her to travel across state lines. Hold on a second. Suppose I have a perfectly legal 16 year old girlfriend. I buy her an airline ticket and now I’m “sex trafficking” her. The law says that if you reimburse her for sex in any way, it’s “sex trafficking.” So I buy my 16 year old girlfriend a hamburger and now I’m “sex trafficking” her. This shit’s getting stupid.
Anyway, once you dig into it, there’s nothing there. Yes, Gaetz and Greenberg, his proucurer, did pay for the services of this more than willing teen whore. But they didn’t know she was 17! She lied and told them she was 19, and I think she even had a fake ID saying so! Anyway she got uncovered by one of Greenberg’s friends, and Greenberg called her in and read her the riot act about how her lying could get a lot of men in trouble. At that point, both Greenberg and Gaetz cut off all contact with the girl. As any reasonable man would do, right?
So this is the charge. This little teen whore lied about her age, told men she was 19 when she was really 17, and guys paid her for sex. As soon as they found out she was underage, they get very angry with her and ended all contact with her.
This is what the fucking Feds (they’re just pigs too – in fact, they’re the worst pigs of them all) are going after Gaetz for. Fake bullshit or what? Even the case against Greenberg looks pretty flimsy.
As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene.
You All Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, “That’s a stuffed animal.” If any of you all think that’s not a stuffed animal and it’s really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. How could that not be a stuffed animal? Any theories?
And that’s not even the start of the weirdness. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. But get this. That stuffed animal is sitting right next to the body of poor Abby. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (5’4?) is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. In other words, that stuffed animal toy is over five feet tall! Ok, that’s so crazy that it’s almost impossible to believe it’s true. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces.
A Second Search Party Member Comes Forward
As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman.
The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony.
In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. We now have two separate SPM’s both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. At this point, this rumor seems like it’s proven at least to my satisfaction.
SPM2 also reported that “there were stuffed animals at the crime scene.” There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. Only that there were stuffed animals. Note that she pluralized the noun.
Stuffed animals not a stuffed animal.
In other words, it’s now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. How many more than one? We have no idea.
Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. These two SPM’s arrived at these conclusions independently. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. So we have three people who arrived at the conclusion independently that there was at least one stuffed animal left at the time. So that seems proven too. The two SPM’s both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene.
As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. That seems proven at this point.
Search Party Members Told by LE Not to Talk about What They Had Seen
The inevitable questions arise. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now.
But now we have a response to that rejoinder. The two SPM’s discussed above have both told us that LE told them not to tell anyone what they had seen at the crime scene. I’m not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPM’s.
I will write more later on. This is just the first draft of a post.
With the choices we had this summer, how could I not support the cops? It was the cops and the Republican fascists versus ghetto Blacks and the Cultural Left intellectual abortion that clings to them, remora-like – the BLM boneheads, the AntifaVirus, and the Woketard crowd, with an emphasis on the particularly insipid and dangerous Critical Race Theory gang, which is even stupider and more dangerous than most SJW passions.
Of course CRT theory isn’t falsifiable, so it fails right out the starting gate without even getting to the hypothesis stage, but all Woke SJW Theory is like that. I always say that in the Sciences, you are either doing science or you are doing Politics, or doing as I call it “A Politics” or “A Form Of Politics.” Parallel to that, you are either practicing Empiricism, hopefully including Occam’s because without Occam’s there is no empiricism, or you are doing Propaganda. Science and Empiricism versus Politics and Propaganda. Part of the reason that modern life is so infuriating is that in our quotidian lives, we get far too much of the former and a serious dearth of the latter.
Pretty soon you have a landscape where Critical Race Politics is lining up with Q, and there’s pretty much nobody in between, all others having been shoved into one moronic corner or the other. That’s modern US politics – a boxing match of fucktards, the booby prize being control of this bucking bronco we arrogantly call a country.
So to my very own shock I was rooting for police all summer! And for the first time in my life I saw cops as humans and felt sorry for them. Imagine my shock to read polls that showed that 57% of the population disliked cops more than I did! Frankly, even I was and still am appalled at the anti-police sentiment in the US. It’s ridiculous. I will say though that a lot of good has come out of this. Bodycams, attempts to be evenhanded, taking police brutality seriously, making cops accountable, on and on. Speaking of, how bout next stop jail? They beat people up all the time in there for no good reason and not one damn thing is done. Cops on the street are controlled. Jails are The Inferno.
Life’s not about who you like. If it was, there wouldn’t be much to live for.
Long, 43 pages. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors – mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. If you can’t handle such material, don’t read!
The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case – Mr. X.
I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them.
Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Also, you develop better sources. We now have search party members who saw the crime scene; official case documents; the testimony of Leigh Kerr, a man who claims to have seen official case documents; accurate crime scene photos; and the best LE sources we have ever had. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. But now we have an excellent regular LE source, a detective, the best we’ve ever had.
Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower.
Qualification of Claims
You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls’ guardians. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims.
The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true.
Unverified but Likely. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category.
Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. Most of Leigh Kerr’s and the search party member’s testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative.
Unverified. Some claims are listed as unverified. These are simply unverified rumors.
Unverified and Probably Not True. This claims are quite dubious and we don’t suggest anyone put any weight into them.
The Uselessness of Most Delphi Murders Podcasters and Reddit Groups
Few of the illustrious Delphi Murders Youtubers has touched the real truth about this case as laid out in this website, probably because they are all narcissists who hate each other and hate anyone stealing their thunder. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? That’s because he was competition. See? These guys are mostly narcissists and they don’t believe in cooperation. It’s all about the zero-sum game. One person wins and everyone else loses. I like some of these guys.
John Kelly has some good information. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Every podcast is all about them! Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting – an egomaniac – on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows.
I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours.
Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POI’s who are all ruled out. There is endless silly speculation in the comments about BG – “I think BG was a teenager…What if BG escaped on a hand glider?…What if BG is dead?…What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?…What if BG is really a woman in drag?…What if BG is Mafia hitman?…Bla bla bla bla.”
I’m sure it’s very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, it’s writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. Idle speculation at its finest. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. Otherwise why do we have religions? Why do kids play make-believe?
I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone.
The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. They’ve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. These are mostly hate sites. Little if any good information comes out of these places. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but it’s a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; it’s just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes!
R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their “no rumors or speculation” rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer.
However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. In particular, user/tobor is excellent.
The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and we’ve even filled in a lot of the blanks.
Questions Regarding My Credibility and Professionalism
Answers to questions about my credibility. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I don’t have to keep going over this stuff in every update.
Finally, after Four Years, Acquisition of Good LE Sources
It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. He’s bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. He is happy to do so. He has connections with current LE officers in Indiana.
We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. The source is a detective in another part of Indiana who is not working on the case.
Mr. X Is Innocent Until Proven Guilty
I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. No one knows if he did this crime or not. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t.
Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Twice they were wrong. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through.
Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasn’t even risen to that level yet. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know?
LE doesn’t have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, it’s awfully thin. In fact, the rumor is that LE simply does not have enough evidence against Mr. X to take the case to court. DA’s require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they won’t take it to trial. At this point, they don’t even have enough for an arrest.
Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. The judge would say you don’t even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. That’s very embarrassing.
Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused.
There are cases like this all over the country.
A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970’s. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now.
There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. They don’t have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims’ graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims’ families to offer “solace for their losses.” See the sort of games these guys play? A police chief in Martinez accused the man of committing these crimes, and the man sued the city and won $50,000.
This is why you don’t hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial.
And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category.
If Mr. X Were on Trial for These Murders Today and I Were in the Jury, I Would Vote to Acquit Him
Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. But my opinion isn’t worth anything. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Because it doesn’t matter whether I think he’s guilty or not. The state has to prove it. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. And with the evidence they currently have, they haven’t proven it. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. That’s the price you pay to live in a free society.
Time to Give up on All These POI’s
This is getting ridiculous. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest.
Ron Logan: Enough already. Give it a rest, dammit! How many times has he been cleared? 242? Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Ron’s land and killed them there.
Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? Stop. He’s innocent. Leave this poor man alone, for God’s sake. Hasn’t he suffered enough? No, he didn’t kill his own granddaughter. Come on, people.
Becky Patty: Obviously they’re not accusing her of the homicides! The accusation is that she “knows something” or “knows way too much” and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. I doubt it. No one’s been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. It’s as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. Of course she did. She still hasn’t been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness.
Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. It’s an understandable reaction, but they’re not pleasant to be around. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. I won’t reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. I will say that Libby’s birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so it’s not like they did a U-turn. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. Let’s hope they find some peace.
The last person on Earth to “protect the killer” is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul.
Derrick German: Libby’s father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. I don’t know this man very well, but he wasn’t in on this crime.
Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Kelsi’s DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and can’t keep her stories straight. I have no idea why she’s doing this, but it’s not because she killed her own sister. Kelsi German has been cleared.
FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldn’t use his real name, but he’s on everybody’s suspect list. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. Now he says he never saw BG at all. I guess he can’t make up his mind. He’s also thoroughly lawyered up, and he’s not saying a word. I get it. He’s a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Hey, it’s a capitalist country, right? The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logan’s land. Sure he’s a greedy businessman, but I doubt if he’s that greedy.
FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Not because there’s any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. I’d be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened.
Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. He raped women, not young teenage girls. He was the right age, but he doesn’t look like BG. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume he’s cleared.
CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. Lawyered up, not talking. He’s afraid he’s going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear.
CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Well, he’s the right age anyway. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wife’s alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. We all stumble over our words sometimes. He’s a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. Possibly works with kids. I’ve looked this man over and I can’t think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. His wife has taken to social media lately, pleading with people to stop harassing them and insisting he had nothing to do with this crime. Good advice. How bout taking it to heed, everyone?
Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. He killed a woman. So he’s a murderer. He’s in prison where he belongs. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, “He kills chicks! So that means he killed these girls because they’re chicks too!” Doesn’t sound like a logical progression of thought to me. Empiricism is a thing. Besides, he’s the wrong age, 27-28. BG is a 50 year old man. Give it a rest, everyone.
Brad Holder: Brad’s son, Jason, was Abby’s boyfriend. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway.
The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. And although he’s no no saint, I don’t think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. You write an article saying some guy’s not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? I don’t get it.
Clearing Up Some Recent Attacks on Our Theories
It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified.
Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. “Robert Lindsay” isn’t just one guy. “Robert Lindsay” is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. They all go off and do their own work. They have their own sources. On and on. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas.
So when you are saying, “No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents,” do you think it’s possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? Something to think about.
Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. Got it? Instead of bashing us, why don’t you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? Are they deliberately lying to us? If so, why? Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? Why would we do that? We don’t do that on here and never have. For one, it’s a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist – I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things.
Facts about the Main Suspect in the Case – Mr. X
The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. The motive was sexual. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide.
We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life.
These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession.
Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime:
Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collector’s item.
Members Only jacket, blue.
Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980’s – Dad jeans.
Indiana Packers boots.
Camouflage hunting cap.
Go Pro camera on waist.
Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives.
White scarf covering the lower half of his face.
Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*
Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.:
Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum.
Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Homeless for a period in the 2000’s, where he resided at a homeless shelter.
Education history: Primary and junior high unknown.
Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85.
Age at time of crime: 49-50 (uncertain).
Present age: 53-54 (uncertain).
Hair color: Dark brown.
Facial hair: Goatee or trimmed beard.
Height: Approximately 5’8.
Weight: Approximately 180.
Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14.
Sexual object orientation: Heterosexual.
Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. Lists a factory as place of residence.
Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years.
Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs.
Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek.
Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. Frequently hunted deer on Ron’s land. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand.
Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. At least two prior marriages.
Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. Ages approximate. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names.
Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him.
Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown.
Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. What that has to do with anything is not known. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly.
Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs.
Specific Information about the Crime Confirmed to Us by the Police
Numbers 1-4 were told to a retired detective who works with one of our team members us by an Indiana detective who the retired LE is close to. The detective didn’t work on the case.
Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them.
Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. The sheriff’s deputy did not work on the case.
Both girls were posed. Keep in mind that they did not say how they were posed, if they were posed in a sexual manner, etc. Source: A detective in Indiana.
Doll(s) were scattered about the crime scene. We have two LE sources for this information. The first source, the same as above, said there were quite a few of them. The detective said, “There were so many dolls scattered around that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill store and bought a bunch of dolls.” This also answers questions about why the cops have been using phrases like “odd,” “peculiar,” “strange,” not your average crime scene,” “many signatures,” etc. It fits right in with all of that. The second source was asked if there was one doll or more than one doll and would only state, “at least one doll was found at the crime scene.” Sources: The first source is the detective in Indiana. The second source is brand new information from a high-ranking figure from directly inside the investigation!
A bottle of toilet cleaner was found at the crime scene. Presumably it was used to throw bleach over everything, which solves the riddle of why no usable DNA was collected in this case. Source: The detective in Indiana.
The girls were “violated with inanimate objects.” Source: The detective in Indiana.
Sticks, twigs, and branches were jammed into the girls lower orifices. Presumably this is what the “violated with inanimate objects” statement above refers to this. Note: A new rejoinder is that both of the girls were found clothed. This is not true. Libby was nude. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Sources:A narcotics detective in Indiana and the wife of a detective working on the case, who posted this on the Internet.
One girl was in the early stage of pregnancy. This is one very old rumor that started up within a few weeks of the murder. The first person who told me that was a middle aged woman who lived in the area. Just saying that for everyone who accuses me of making this up. This rumor just would not die. We hated reporting on it, but it kept popping up over and over, so we had to keep reporting it. We were never sure if it was true or not, so it was always just another unverified rumor.
We didn’t want to bring this up because we’ve caught so much crap for it, but we felt we had to because an Indiana LE officer stated to us that this was actually true. When we get information straight from the police, we feel we must report it. This is not something we relish reporting.
His exact quote was, “One of the girls was in the very early stages of pregnancy.” He did not state which girl it was. We have an idea which girl it might be, but we are not going to upset people even more by naming the girl. If this is true, then the girl was 6-8 weeks pregnant, when pregnancy is hard to diagnose but can be confirmed on autopsy. Specifically, there will be a thickening of the walls of the uterus that can be determined at this time.
Our information is that at least one girl was sexually active, and at least one of the the girls was 13-14 going on 20, if you get the picture. This is important to know if there is a question of one possibly being pregnant because in order to get pregnant, you have to be sexually active.
People are furious with us for reporting this because they say we are sullying these girls’ reputations, thereby disqualifying them for posthumous sainthood. We do not feel that inexperienced 13-14 year old girls have some sort of purity that can be dirtied, nor do we feel that a girl this age sullies her reputation by engaging in PIV sex. People who think like this are prudes, Puritans, and sex haters. We do not feel that it is immoral for 13-14 year old girls to have PIV sex or to get pregnant. It’s stupid for them to get pregnant, but it’s not immoral. ~15% of girls that age, and probably more, are already having PIV sex. Source:A sheriff’s officer in a nearby county.
Specific Information about the Crime Confirmed to Us Via Official Case Documents in Our Possession
Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. In addition, we may have more documents. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for.
A pair of binoculars. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerr’s testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime.
Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abby’s phone after the crime occurred are true. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victim’s phone is proven. This proves more of Leigh Kerr’s testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girl’s phones after the crime.
43 seconds of audio. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. But how could they possibly know this? Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls’ phones after the crime.
A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. The gun is a rare collector’s item, possibly a .40mm. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home.
Knives. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives.
Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killer’s clothes in blood.
Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM.The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. As you can see, the numbers are the same. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental.
Some Aspects of the Crime Scene Not Verified by LE But Instead Verified by Two People Working Independently and Coming to the Same Conclusion, One Sleuth and One Witness or Two Witnesses
Those aspects of the crime are the following:
Both girls were posed with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing. Source: A female member of the search team and our analysis of the crime scene photos.
There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girl’s head. Source: A female member of the search team and our analysis of the crime scene photos.
There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. While we see a giant plush bear, that’s too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Source: A female member of the search team and our analysis of the crime scene photos.
Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. Source:Two female members of the search team.
Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. Source: A conversation with one girl’s guardian and a photograph of this victim’s funeral, which we have chosen not to release, backing up the guardian’s statement.
We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girl’s guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo.
In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Almost zero. That’s good enough for us to be probative.
Interpretations of Some Aspects of the Crime Scene Photos Now Proven (Crime Scene Photos Now Proven to Be Actually That)
The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven.
Rumors That Are Now Confirmed Via Indiana LE
LE Believes Mr. X is BG
Via our detective source in Indiana, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. All other POI’s are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever.
It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I don’t have to go to the police. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory
Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. They’re not looking at anyone else. They think he did it. End of story.
LE Believes that Bridge Guy (Mr. X) Is a Serial Killer and Was Also Responsible for the Evansdale Murders
Via our detective source, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. Much more on that below.
LE Believes There Are Similarities Between the Evansdale and Delphi Double Homicides
Via our detective source in Indiana, we have learned that in both crimes:
There was posing. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed.
Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around.
The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers.
A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene.
Unconfirmed Rumors Not Validated by the Police
The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true:
A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Source:A female member of the search team.
Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. Source:A female member of the search team.
A girl’s hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. The knife in the log was located near the girl’s right shoulder. The girl’s hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Source:A female member of the search team.
Rumors About the Crime Scene Not Verified by Indiana LE and Hence Still Mostly Unconfirmed, with Varying Confidence Levels
Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as:
Presence of a crucifix. Source: A female member of the search party.
A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Source: Leigh Kerr.
Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. Source: Leigh Kerr.
More Weirdness Abounds: 2/13, 2:13, and 2-13
This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13.
2/13, 2:13, 2-13. What is this guy, another Zodiac? Is he into numerology? Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses.
It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. And two girls were abducted there also. 2-13 again.
The DNA and Fingerprint Questions
The main suspect’s DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable.
BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. Kelsi has been cleared.
There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. That’s not very many. Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers.
These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. It’s a dead end.
About those fingerprints.
LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. They don’t say where they collected it from, but that’s an important question. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. They’re generally unusable. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints.
The Lady Walking Her Dogs at the Bridge at 12:30 PM on the Day of the Murders
This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, met BG somewhere, possibly on the south side of the bridge, and even had a brief conversation with BG. However, this information does not seem to be coming from LE.
Instead it is coming from Delphi podcaster Anthony Greeno, a dubious man and apparent con artist with a rap sheet so long it fades into the horizon when you try to read it. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong. It means to consider information coming from him with a lot of caution.
This woman was apparently a discovery of Greeno’s. Ok, wait. Greeno finds this woman but LE never did? She approached Greeno but she didn’t approach LE? My smellometer is registering stinky.
Furthermore the woman has since gone into hiding, possibly because of people bothering her, or maybe because she is afraid BG is going to kill her. Anyway, she’s not talking. Before she departed us though, she did inform us that she could not identify what the man she met looked like. Except she was sure he was BG. Now wait a minute. I’m kind of thinking this eyewitness account ain’t making it to the witness stand, ya know?
Obviously this is very much an unconfirmed rumor, though everyone is treating it as if it’s the word of God. I beg to differ. If anyone has any more information on this odd rumor, please let me know in the comments or in my email. Obviously if we can place BG at the bridge at 12:30 PM, that changes everything.
Quit Referencing LE’s Statements at the 2019 Press Conference (The “Fakeference”) As Factual
Although we do not have any evidence that this is true, we believe that the 2019 Press Conference was a gigantic ruse. We believe they already had a main suspect at the time, and they thought he was going to be at the meeting. So the meeting was designed to trick him. The entire meeting was meant for the consumption of one person, Mr. X. Mr. X was in the conference room that day, seated directly in the middle of the room, as if he were the center of attention.
Notice that LE told the public to stop focusing on the old BG and to focus on the New BG instead. The New BG was said to be the man who carried out the murders – he was BG. They also said that BG was 18-40 years old. Anyone with any sense can see, intuitively, that BG cannot possibly be the young man in the sketch, nor can he be 18-40 years old.
BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. You can tell by many things – gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Easy, they were lying!
Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid.
And at the end, Carter says, “He may even be in this room right now,” (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X.
The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. The sketch of the younger man is been the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat.
And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims.
And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is “both sketches at once,” obviously.
Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. This was done to get Mr. X to think that they think the catfish did the crime, not BG himself.
Granted, we don’t have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerr’s statements. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. Nevertheless, we do feel that Leaker’s notion that this was all a big ruse rang true for us and sent us off on on our investigation, with the help of the notorious Godsey I might add.
We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Can we prove it? No. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occam’s). Put the competing theory to the logic test. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? Get real. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. Hence, following Occam’s, our theory is the best explanation of the facts.
Mr. X’s Employment at a Packing Plant in Indiana and Possible Connection to the Evansdale Murders Verified by Article in the Indiana Star
Via our detective source in Indiana, Mr. X ‘s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. The voice was a good match, the clothes “looked familiar,” and the walk was dead on. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there.
Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time.
If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale.
We don’t know what his job was there, but if it was slitting the throats of screaming, squealing pigs on ropes swinging towards him with a knife so huge that it looks like a sword as is done at some slaughterhouses, we would say a job like that would be right up BG’s alley.
BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. And humans are animals too.
The Mystery of BG’s Indiana Packers Boots
There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, “Oh, this is nothing. Don’t pay any attention to that.”
It turns out that BG’s shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldn’t have gotten wet.
However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012.
Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime?
Weird Behavior of Mr. X Surrounding His Truck at the Crime Scene
We now have a better time frame for Mr. X’s truck being parked at the cemetery. Note that it was parked in head first. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. We don’t know why he asked permission to search Ron Logan’s land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team.
Not only that, but Mr. X’s alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends.
He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. We doubt if she did contact his wife. They weren’t that close.
After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but what’s the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? We would say it is low.
He parked 1,000 feet away from Ron’s door, almost a quarter mile away. Why didn’t he pull up to his front door? We don’t know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally don’t park a quarter mile away and hike in. We park right at the front door.
We also don’t know what he was doing searching down there that night. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. However, this early searching meant that he could use his “lost my keys” excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were foundbecause he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evening’s search.
It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. That’s a full 18 hours. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? It doesn’t seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time.
We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects.
Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. If he didn’t have his keys, he could not move his truck. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Did he eat? Where did he get the food and what was the food? Did he sleep? If so, where and when? Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? That would have been quite a problem. It doesn’t seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason.
But it’s even worse than that.
Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys?
We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. He stayed to guard his truck. We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there.
Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. I’m sure that was a LOL feeling for him. “These idiot cops. They’re swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards can’t figure this out.” We think he likes to fool and troll LE. “I’m fooling the cops, ha ha!” is the thinking.
Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? He had his keys with him, so why didn’t he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldn’t because he had lost his keys? LE asked him to move the vehicle. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him.
Three problems with that story:
We believe he never lost his keys.
We believe he never called the wife to ask her to bring a spare set.
We believe there was no spare set in the first place.
At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. X’s wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X intothe sealed off areabecause she’s bringing Mr. X his keys. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up.
There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. X’s truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. X’s truck was never searched by police.
Mr. X’s wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. X’s wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. X’s truck. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set.
We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logan’s land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors.
LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. LE doesn’t like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X.
The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. But the scanner doesn’t say she came to bring the keys. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. We believe she never showed up, he never called the wife, he never lost his keys in the first place, and there was no spare set. We believe this because this is what we were told.
Mr. X’s Traumatic Reaction upon Discovering the Bodies Appears Staged and Fake
Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Like a coward, we would add. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. We believe that those reactions were overblown. No one else reacted that way. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is.
So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victim’s grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also “staged.” In other words, they were faked. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else.
We Don’t Have a Copy of the Gag Order Supposedly Issued about the Towing of a Truck from the CPS Building on February 14
People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. We have no idea why the order was issued. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor.
Nature of Case Documents in My Possession
We do indeed have documents from the case. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LE’s investigation of him. The doc is his property. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. There are signatures on the document. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. you’re smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping.
The man who owns the document is not happy with us going public with these docs. He doesn’t want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media.
Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. We obtained this document via a public records request.
We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case.
Mr. X’s Criminal Record
The only crime on Mr. X’s record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend.
The conviction is expunged. Expunged just means taken out of public records. LE still has access to the conviction. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction.
Long, runs to 60 pages. I am very sorry, but I am a graphomaniac. I may divide it into two posts next week. You may wish to print it out for easier perusal.
April 8-9 Update: This post has received a massive update with new information on Mr. X’s past and the stunning revelation that LE suspects BG of the Evansdale Murders too!
Warning:What follows is horrifying information about the sexually-motivated double murders of two young teenage girls. There’s no way to pretty this stuff up, and if I did, I’d just be lying anyway.
Here we go with another update. Once again, I would like to thank R.v.S. and C.A., two of my very best friends who I have known for what seems like my whole life, or maybe it was just since college. I know these guys so well that sometimes I wonder if we are all the same person!
People are making statements that the statements in this article are due to me having “inside information.” This is accompanied by a lot of snarkery and hostility.
The information below comes from three sources.
The first source is from a female member of the search party who saw the crime scene and discussed it with me.
The second source is photocopy(s) of official document(s) from the investigation that I managed to obtain.
The third source is a retired LE officer who who dug into the case of Mr. X for us. He still has a lot of current LE contacts, and this is where his information comes from. So this source is really current LE.
You chose to lend credence to Robert Lindsay, who has literally confessed to being a pedophile.
What in God’s’ name is he talking about?! Of course I’ve never “confessed to being a pedophile.” Why would I confess to being something that I’m not? A pedophile is a man who is maximally attracted to girls under 13 and has little to no interest in mature females. Anyone who knows me knows that’s not the case with me. I love grown women. I can’t get enough of them. Little girl children? Ew.
Teenage girls are another matter, but that’s not pedophilia. I haven’t had anything to do with a teenage girl under 18 since I was 21, 42 years ago. I did have sex with underage teenage girls 14-17 for four years during the ages of 18-21. More than I can count. I stopped at age 21 because I didn’t want to go to jail. You want to hold that against me? Be my guest. You want to call me “pedophile” based on that? Knock yourselves out.
I don’t approve of adult men having sex with teenage girls under the age of consent (AOC) because it’s illegal. In most US states, the AOC is 16 or 17. It’s 18 in a few states. My position is that in this environment, I advise all adult men of any age to not mess with girls under the AOC. It’s not worth it, guys. If these female minors are over the AOC, help yourself. Grab all you want. Problem is that while 16 year old looks fantastic, when she opens up her mouth, she sounds like a 10 year old. That might put me off right there.As I get older, I appreciate the wonders of older women more and more. In a lot of ways, they are better than young women.
Apparently he is referencing this:
I was reported to the police probably 60 times for being the murderer or for being a “pedophile” (I wasn’t aware that was against the law).
According to Matt Sullivan, people in his wanted to hang me on the spot for this comment. I said that being a pedophile isn’t against the law. That’s a fact. Apparently that comment means “I confessed to being a pedophile.” One reason I quit doing these Delphi articles is because I got tired of dealing with idiots like this all the time.
Yes, I’m a Real Freelance Journalist
Among the many insane arguments against me, one is that I “pretend to be a journalist.” I’m actually trained as a journalist. I have a BA in Journalism from a state university in California. I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. Furthermore, I am a now a published author, having written a chapter in an academic Linguistics book on Turkic Linguistics published out of Turkey.
I don’t know what it takes to be a “real” journalist . But I would think a BA in Journalism would suffice.
If you are wondering how I come up with all these “inside sources,” keep in mind that I was trained how to obtain confidential documents, protect and cultivate sources, and do interviews, and I am very good at all of those things. There’s an art to this. We were also taught to source and label our sources things properly, and we had to take a semester in the libel law which was modeled on a law school course.
No, My Blog Was Not Shut Down by WordPress Due to My Delphi Reporting
A man named Eric Alter claimed to have gotten an injunction against my blog with WordPress. Supposedly this led to it being shut down. Mr. Alter filed no injunction against this blog with WordPress. WordPress took no action against my website in response to Mr. Alter’s complaints, assuming he made any to them.
Next, there are stories that this site got shut down by WordPress because I was making up lies about this case. That’s not so. WordPress never uttered one peep to me about my Delphi coverage. The site was shut down by WordPress, but it was because I violated their Terms of Service in a post I made about feminists. I didn’t even know what WordPress‘ TOS were, as I had never read them.
Dead Rumors and Screams in the Night
More BS. There is a report on Reddit that I am still pushing a theory that the girls were garroted. It is said that I “made up” this story. True, that was a rumor floating around for a while, but we junked that years ago. The theory that the girls were garroted is a dead rumor, dead for over four years now.
There is a report on Reddit that I reported a scream was heard in the night. They say I “made up” this story. For the hundredth time, I’m a professional journalist, and I don’t make up facts about this crime case. That’s a career-ender and I take my journalistic ethics very seriously. I do not recall ever reporting such a thing.
However, I have now seen references to reports of screams heard by the bridge at 2 AM. It is also said that Libby’s phone, previously dead, started pinging again right around this time. That means someone had Libby’s phone and turned it on or recharged it after the charge went out. If the latter is true, it is quite remarkable, but both the screams and the phone pinging at 2 AM are unverified rumors at this point.
On the other hand, Leigh Kerr did report that there is a scream on Libby’s audio recording followed by a thud. The theory is that this is Abby screaming right before BG hits on her on the head with a blunt object, no doubt the butt of that gun he has on him. Poor girl! So it turns out that if Leaker is correct, and I regard him as credible, there was indeed a scream soon after the girls were abducted, probably at the crime scene.
I can think of how this scene might have unfolded:
He got them to the kill zone, and he had them both on the ground with their hands behind their backs handcuffed. We know this because of the dirt under Libby’s fingernails. He was controlling them with the gun in his right pocket. He said you scream or yell one time, and I shoot both of you. They’re scared so they keep quiet. Poor Libby was thrashing around, this is what caused the dirt and bruising under her nails. Suddenly he was on top of her and slit her throat so deeply he almost cut it off. Poor thing lived for maybe five seconds and then died.
Abby was on the ground too, handcuffed. Poor Abby saw this horror in front of her face. Face it, this is as bad as it gets – watching your bestie murdered while you watch. It doesn’t get any worse than that. Abby screamed. BG was on top of her very quickly and hit her over the head with the butt end of the gun. She went out cold. The blow did not kill her though. He figured out that she wasn’t dead. So he took a knife and stabbed her in the artery in her neck, killing her.
He put them both out of commission in seconds, and he killed both of them within a minute or two. He had to dispatch them quickly so they wouldn’t scream. He couldn’t keep them alive and tortured them, though he may have wanted to. The sexual thrill here was the homicide itself. He’s a lust murderer. Sadistic killers get a sexual arousal just from hurting people. It doesn’t have to be anything sexual. Later on he did sexual things with both bodies involving sticks and twigs.
We Don’t Fake Photos Here
There is a photo on Reddit of a Photoshopped up photo of BG. People on there are saying it came from my website. I don’t recall seeing it on my site but I put a lot of stuff up there. This is followed by an accusation that I “made up” this photo or deliberately altered it with a graphics program. Problem? I’m a terrible artist. I do not know how to use any graphics program. I’ve used a few of them, but I can barely do anything, maybe crop or rotate a photo and that’s it. Please stop saying that I manipulate photos about this case with graphics software. I don’t do any of the graphics work on my page. I have graphic artists who do that for me.
There is another accusation on Reddit that I manipulated a photo of BG to add in some cigarette smoke. We did run that photo. I just spoke to our graphics expert, and she told me she didn’t manipulate anything. She just applied some lighting filters.
I believe that does look like cigarette smoke over his left shoulder. We also thought we saw a smoldering cigarette in his mouth in another of her enhancements. BG was either smoking and leaving a smoke cloud or those are just some artifacts of the graphics software creating illusions. There’s no confirmation that BG was smoking a cigarette when he abducted those girls. There’s just an odd photo that could be anything.
Below is a capture from the same area as the photos below came from. The helicopter video where there is a circle of flashes going off. That’s clearly the CSI people photographing the scene. It can’t be anything else. The grabs below are from a Youtuber who is actually a theoretical physicist.
Note that the girl’s arms are raised on in a surrender position exactly as they are in the more cleaned up photos below. Also note that the girl’s legs have been spread by the killer, same as they are in the photos below.
One of my graphic artist is a woman. I know, I’m such a misogynist, huh? Actually many of my best sleuths down through the years have been women. Women excel at intuition and I think intuition is important for detectives. Women are lousy at logic as any man who’s had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end.
There is a charge from Reddit that we faked this image. We don’t fake images.
In the above photo, Libby’s right and left legs are marked. Also one of my graphics people labeled what he thinks is a large branch between this poor girl’s legs. This would follow from the report of the search party member below where she says that Libby had a log jammed up perpendicular to her crotch to make it seem as it was penetrating her sexually.
By the way, the man who did the labeling was a sheriff in a nearby county who joined our group incognito. So you can see we had active duty LE in our group working with us. This image is very poor, but it’s a match for the images below from the theoretical physicist.
Validation of My Reporting over the Years
One of the things people on Reddit are saying is that they were shocked at how closely Leaker’s revelations resembled things that I’ve been saying for years. Well, of course. We’re wrong a lot, sure. But here’s the thing. We’re also right a lot. I’m sure that if more information about this case comes out, more of the things we’ve been saying here for years are going to be shown to be true.
Clearing up Some Rumors
The Horrible Sticks and Twigs Rumor
I’ve been run through the grinder for years over this rumor, and I was trying to avoid it in this post, but I have no choice but talk about it. One rumor is either that one or more of the girls was impaled with a branch. That rumor started when a young man from Delphi published crime scene photos in the week after the murders. This is what he described, among other things. He also thought the murders had occult or Satanic overtones. That’s probably not true, but if you read about how the killer staged the crime scene, you might think that was the case.
This rumor was repeated later when a good source told me that poor Libby was impaled with a branch right below her solar plexus. Keep in mind that I have not been able to verify this rumor. But keeping in mind the insanity of the crime scene below, almost anything is possible with this depraved killer.
A better sourced rumor – but just as horrible – is that BG shoved twigs, sticks, and small branches into both girls’ vaginas and anuses. Terrible, huh? I presume he did this after they were dead, so at least they didn’t have to suffer this indignity. At this point, he’s also a necrophile, but a lot of these guys have necrophilic tendencies.
Thing is we were able to source this to two LE sources. The first was a local detective who was working on the case. He told someone close to him and they reported it on the Net. The second is another detective in a different area of LE. He verified the rumor, saying he had seen crime scene photos. And just recently, I got a report that several “insiders” had verified that this rumor is true. Also, Leaker said that the girls were not sexually assaulted with the killer’s body, implying that they may have been with inanimate objects. So now we have variations of this rumor verified at least eight times. That’s not conclusive, but it’s looking better all the time.
It’s been said that I made up this rumor as some sick fantasy of mine. First, I don’t happen to fantasize about this stuff. I don’t care what anyone thinks about, but homicidal sexual sadism isn’t my bag, sorry. Second, as I repeated above, I am bound by journalistic ethics not to make up lies out of whole cloth. That’s a death sentence in this business, and I take my ethics seriously, unlike increasing numbers of my degenerate colleagues.
Resetting Libby’s Phone
At first it was thought that Libby did this herself, possibly after being told to do so by the killer who was catfishing her on Snapchat. It has now been revealed that Mike Patty, her grandfather, did this for unknown reasons.
Yes, Abby Had a Cellphone on Her at the Time of the Crime
I reported the other day that BG videotaped his crime. I know from case document(s) I obtained that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, film, etc. that BG used in this crime. The only way LE could know that BG videotaped his crime is if the rumor about BG sending video of the crime to Abby’s phone after her death is true.
People on Reddit are attacking this report, saying that according to Abby’s mother, Abby didn’t have a phone. Problem is Abby’s mother didn’t know all sorts of things. She didn’t know that Abby had a boyfriend, and she sure did. We even know his name. Also several LE officials have made public statements that both girls had phones on them, most recently the fire chief on the HTN show.
Mr. X Did Not Touch the Bodies When He Discovered Them
There is an old rumor going around that Mr. X touched one or more of the bodies in the neck, looking for a pulse. Sadly, I may have reported that earlier. I now feel that’s a dead rumor. Neither Mr. X nor anyone else touched the bodies.
Rejoinders Aside, Now on to the Real Meat of the Post
LE May Have a Prime Suspect in the Delphi Murders, and His Name is Mr. X
If you followed Leigh Kerr’s leak on Reddit, Leaker said that LE has a prime suspect in this case. We will refer to him from now on as Mr. X. I don’t want to use his name or his initials. When discussing this man in the comments, always refer to him as Mr. X. Please refer to his wife as Mrs. X. Don’t use either his name or his initials. We have to be fair here. Leave this man alone if you know who he is. We aren’t vigilantes here in America. We’re better than that. Besides, who knows if he did it or not? You think he did it? Fine, prove it. See, you can’t. Welcome to America. This is the price you pay to live in a free country.
Leaker said that LE thinks Mr. X did it, but they don’t have enough evidence on him to take it to court.
In case you are wondering, there are cases like this all over the country. I can even think of some serials who are running around free where LE believes that they committed several homicides. One is named the Lewiston Killer. There is a child serial killer who has killed several little girls over the past 10-20 years. LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they don’t have enough on him to make a case. So he walks free. And these aren’t the only two.
A former girlfriend got shot in the head by her husband. He said she committed suicide but that was not possible, and further his behavior after he shot her was very weird. LE detained him for a while. Once he visited her at the hospital with LE, and he was chained to a room heater in the hospital room. I believe they detained him for a couple of weeks and released him. They didn’t have enough evidence against him to bring a case to trial.
The OJ Simpson case is also instructive.
Bottom line is murderers get away with it all the time in this country, and in a number of cases, LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they simply don’t have enough evidence to take it to court. DA’s won’t dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Otherwise the case never goes to trial. We have trial by jury in this country, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We can’t go around killing people because someone thinks they might have maybe killed someone.
Why Are People Going out of Their Way to Protect Mr. X?
There is a man named Jordan McCoy on Facebook pretending to be Leigh Kerr. In fact, McCoy doesn’t even exist. He’s just a sock for a guy named Scott Alexander, and Alexander isn’t Leaker either. Scott’s only purpose is to be to pretend he was Leaker in order to draw suspicion away from the prime suspect, Mr. X, for unknown reasons.
There are some locals who are going out of their way to protect Mr. X. They are insisting that he could not possibly have done it. Some of their behavior is downright weird. Perhaps they are doing this out of loyalty to their friend. That said, these protectors probably ought to be named because their behavior is pretty off.
Anthony Greenospends most of his time trying to deflect attention away from Mr. X. Greeno happens to be a hunting partner of Mr. X. I do not know why Greeno so vociferously defends Mr. X. Perhaps it is due to their friendship.
There is another very odd character named Caleb Bowlin, a Delphi resident. A lot of people are suspicious of him. He was 21 at the time of the crime, and he’s a dead perfect match for the second sketch. I don’t know what that means. He’s gone completely overboard defending Mr. X and saying he could not possibly have done it. At one time a couple of people were trying to go look at the crime scene, and he was literally blocking them with his body to keep them away. I don’t know why he is doing this. There is no evidence that this man is involved in this crime.
Bowlin presented himself to Leazenby’s office and told the sheriff that there were rumors going around that he was BG. Bowlin offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test. Leazenby said, “Caleb, if we ever need you for any of that, we’ll contact you.” Based on this, LE does not suspect Bowlin of being part of this crime.
Who Is Leigh Kerr?
The pastor of a small Pentecostal church from Lafayette, Joe Wampler, is Leigh Kerr. Leaker is the man who held a session on Reddit where he told people he had accessed case documents and he was going to leak details about the case. He was angry that the case had gone on this long with no resolution. He proceeded to tell quite a tale about what he had learned from these documents. His revelations are here. Leaker stirred up a huge storm and a large consensus is that he’s a liar and a fraud. I think that is incorrect. I regard him as credible for various reasons.
He posted accidentally under his real name and profile as if he were still answering questions as Leigh Kerr. His wife has indeed been traced back to a local courthouse worker. Rumor is she saw a lot of these documents and ran them off. I just spoke to a woman who knows this couple very well, and she insisted to me that this man is straight up man of God type. His word is good and his morals are strong. He’s the last person to make up stupid lies. He’s pure integrity, a class act.
Theory That BG Videotaped His Crime with a GoPro Camera and Sent the Photos to One of the Girls’ Phones after the Crime
Leaker also said that BG sent photos or videos to one of the girls’ phones after the crime. This has also been (somewhat) vindicated. These same document(s) in my possession say that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, and film in relation to this case. Obviously, LE thinks BG filmed his crime. Profiler John Kelly, who believes that Leaker should be at least given the benefit of the doubt until proven false, thanked Harvey Carroll, another good (albeit narcissistic) Delphi Murders podcaster, for his work on the BG photo in which Carroll found that BG is apparently wearing a Go-Pro camera. Kelly agreed that the photo does show BG wearing such a camera. I agree with Kelly and Carroll.
Attacking Leigh Kerr (Leaker)
Trashing Leigh Kerr, Part 1. On Reddit, people are saying that Leigh Kerr has been proven to be a fake and a liar. Leigh Kerr has not proven to be completely correct (though some of his testimony checks out), but hasn’t yet been debunked either.
No one knows anything about Leigh Kerr’s stories, but one of them, new information that BG had binoculars that he used in his ploy the capture the girls, has been validated. I have official document(s) which state that LE is looking for binoculars in relation to this case.
Trashing Leaker, Part 2. From Reddit, Leaker is accused of lying because in the part of the audio not released, BG can be heard telling the girls he’s railroad police, he spotted the girls trespassing with binoculars, the girls were were now under arrest for trespassing, and he’s now handcuffing them. Reddit said this could not be true because if it was, LE would have released it to the public.
First of all, this guy never read Leaker’s account in the first place. Because if he had, he would note that Leaker said that this account was only deciphered after long painstaking work with audio experts who managed to clean up the completed garbled audio on Libby’s phone. Even cleaned up, you can barely hear a thing. However, these experts transcribed what they thought was being said in this encounter. It is from this deciphering that LE concluded that the conversation above took place. Leaker said LE did not release it because one, even cleaned up, it’s a complete mess and undecipherable without a lot of expensive equipment, and two, they didn’t think it would be of any additional help to release it to the public.
No Such Crime as “Interfering with an Investigation”
No such crime as Interfering with an Investigation. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called “interfering with an investigation.” There have been calls for years to have me arrested on this fake crime too. We’ve succeeded in making half of life illegal so far in the land of the free (sic), but this isn’t really a crime. I think it is only a crime on the federal level, and it’s never used the way these people think think it is.
It’s a BS law, often used by the FBI and other feds when they want to take someone down but they can’t get anything on you. I don’t like the FBI. If the FBI wants to take you down, you go down. They will search through your life with a fine toothcomb, and if you do that with most people, you will find some idiot law someone broke somewhere somehow. So this is one of those fake crimes (like “Lying to the FBI” – another fake crime) that they use for political purposes. The only time I’ve ever seen it used was to charge someone in the recent Russiagate (a fake scandal about a fake event – something that never happened in the first place) prosecutions.
They charged someone with “interfering with an investigation” for destroying documents relevant to the case in order to avoid prosecution. In other words, destruction of evidence. As far as whether I am “interfering with an investigation,” let’s see what LE told me about my reporting on this case:
ISP: “We don’t care what you write. Go ahead and write whatever you want. And if you ever write anything sensitive that we want taken down, we will contact you, ok?” Phone conversation between me and and ISP detective, Spring 2017.
FBI: “We don’t care about Lindsay.” Conversation between FBI agent and a suspect when detaining him to get a DNA sample at an FBI office in Michigan, 2018.
Supporting Leigh Kerr
Backing up Leaker, Part 3. On Reddit, at least one poster defended Leaker, saying that they had been talking to people close to the Delphi investigation, and they backed up much of what Leaker said.
Specifically, his sources concurred that there was at least some luring of the girls to the site. Leaker said that Libby was catfished on Snapchat with the second sketch of the young man.
His sources agreed that Mr. X was someone that LE looked at very hard at least at one point if possibly not at the moment.
They also agreed with agreed that the girls were posed in a sexual tableau.
Abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect (Bad Idea)
Sleuths abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect. Mr. X’s daughter has made an appearance in Facebook groups, saying that he’s the greatest guy in the world, and he couldn’t possibly have done this. However, family members of a number of convicted killers, even serial killers, have said similar things. She also said her father never lost his keys. Becky Patty, who is a friend of Mr. X’s wife, said that Mrs. X told her that Mr. X did not lose his keys.
These comments from wife, daughter, and friends defending Mr. X and questioning the official narrative have caused a large group of sleuths abandon Mr. X as a suspect. As if a suspect’s wife and daughter would not be expected to vouch for him. And as it turns out, the fact that he didn’t lose his keys after all does not clear Mr. X from suspicion. In fact, it makes him even more suspicious.
More on Mr. X, the Possible Prime Suspect in the Case
First of all, as noted above, Leaker seems vindicated in part about Mr. X being the prime suspect in the case. A Reddit poster said he asked around to a number of Delphi “insider” types, and they told him that indeed LE had looked at Mr. X very hard as a suspect, if possibly not at the moment.
Beyond that, we have a retired LE officer working with us and we sent him to work with his LE colleagues on Mr. X. This man came back and told us that not only is Mr. X the prime suspect in these murders, but they also suspect him in other murders.
In my previous post, I talked about how Mr. X said he lost his keys during the search for the girls. That story has gotten completely garbled with Becky Patty, Mr. X’s daughter, and Mrs. X, Mr. X’s wife, all saying that Mr. X never lost his keys. The thing is that new information I got says that they are all correct! Mr. X indeed never lost his keys. But it’s worse than that.
First of all, Mr. X asked Ron Logan permission to search his land at 6:30 PM on February 13, three hours after the girls were murdered. Ron thought it was an odd request but he granted it because Mr. X was a neighbor who lived only 2 miles away. But there is a problem with Mr. X asking this permission. The Fire Department only announced the formation of a search party at 7 PM. Before that, nobody much even knew the girls were missing, although LE had been notified at 5:30 PM. The only people out searching were family and friends of the girls. No one else knew that the girls were even missing.
Which begs the question, How did Mr. X know that the girls were missing in the first place before anyone else did? Was he in the area when they went missing? That looks bad because his alibi said he was in another town altogether. If he was in another town at the time of the murders, when did he come home? And why, when he came back into town, did he decide to go to the bridge to look for the girls when he had no idea they were missing?
The only way this makes sense is if Mr. X was not in another town but was in the bridge area. But there goes his alibi. Now he’s in even more trouble. Furthermore, why on Earth did he specifically ask to search Ron Logan’s property, which is exactly where the girls were killed? Why did he park his truck hidden at the cemetery directly above the crime scene? Why didn’t he park at Ron’s front door if he wanted to knock and ask permission to search his land?
By 6:30 it was dark and it would have been hard to see the girls who were in a hidden ravine that was very hard to see. Also, two other men searched Ron’s land that night. They didn’t find the girls either, adding credulity to the notion that they were hard to see where they were in the dark.
Nevertheless, Mr. X’s alibi that he was out of town, came back into town and went to the bridge for no reason, and then decided to search for the girls without knowing they were missing obviously makes no sense.
Some Mr. X Background
Mr. X owned some property there where he raised goats and hunted deer, but I’m not sure what else he did. Mr. X has two children, a younger daughter who is a very out lesbian and an older daughter, about 30 and unmarried. He has been married to Mrs. X for some time, possibly 10+ years. She is 10 years younger than he is, an attractive woman.
Mr. X is a big fan of Harley Davidson motorcycles and an extremely avid deer hunter. We have not been able to find information about his employment at any time. His wife most recently worked at a bank, but she was caught stealing money from the bank two years ago and was fired.
He was born in 1965 in Illinois and is 55 years old and looks his age. He grew up in Illinois but moved to Indiana around 2000 at age 35. We know little about his life before 2000.
From 2000-2010, he moved around Indiana, moving about once a year to a new town. He settled in Delphi in 2011 and lived there for 10 years, mostly with his wife. In 2011-2012, he was separated from his wife and lived with a male roommate. He and his wife just moved early this year. I believe they now reside in Monticello. The latest I have heard is that they moved back to Illinois, but that may just be a rumor. He obviously thinks the heat is on him.
I have obtained a videotape of him playing with his granddaughters. His voice sounds a lot like BG’s, and he refers to his two young granddaughters as “guys.” In the videotape, his walk looks a lot like BG’s walk.
I have a photograph of him with his daughters from 2009 when they were girls. The older daughter looks remarkably like Libby German, and the younger daughter looks remarkably like Abby Williams in that photo. I’m not sure if that means anything. They are posing with their father next to the carcass of a deer he has shot.
He seems to have many friends in the Delphi area with the whole town on his friends page. I have a photo of him and Sheriff Tobe Lozenby posing with a hunting rifle, clearly a gag photo. Apparently he was close to Sheriff Lozenby at one point. Mr. and Mrs. X are close to the Pattys. Libby had met Mr. X a couple of times, but Becky Patty did not think Libby would recognize him. Becky is currently defending him, probably because he is a friend of the family.
Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. Perhaps he had seen her regularly and begun to have sexual and homicidal fantasies of her.
Around the time of the crime, Mr. X was about the same height and weight as BG. Since the murders, he has gained ~50 pounds. After the crime, he talked so much about the murders to anyone who would listen that people started to get suspicious of him. It is not known if any locals turned him in to the tipline. Mr. X owns a hunting cap that is a replica of the one worn by BG, but perhaps that is a common hat in the area. I have seen photos of him with jeans and a jacket almost exactly like BG’s jeans and jacket, but perhaps those are common garments among men in that area. He very closely resembles BG when his face is put side by side by BG’s. None of these things are incriminating enough to take a case to court.
Mr. X’s Wife Says Mr. X Fooled Her for Many Years until She Discovered He was a “Monster” and an “Evil Force”
The wife is a curious case. There is a rumor that she posted to Facebook that she thought she knew Mr. X, but she had discovered that he was a “monster.” I have not been able to find that post.
However, backing that up somewhat, I have screenshots of a woman, Ms. Y, who knew Mr. and Mrs. X for a long time. Ms. Y said she had suspected Mr. X from the very first day after the news about the lost keys and his truck being parked right above the crime scene came out.
Ms. Y described the couple as “very, very strange.” This tells me absolutely nothing about any human being. Instead I want to know precisely what it is about this couple that Ms. Y finds so strange. Anyway, it does add suspicion to Mr. X.
Ms. Y said that their marriage was a bit rocky, with a few wild fights and temporary breakups. Ms. Y said Mrs. X had made a series of very strange posts to Facebook about how she thought she had known someone all her life but it turned out she didn’t know them and that this person turned out be some sort of an evil force.
I believe that is a reference to Mr. X, as the”evil force” lines up with the earlier report that she said Mr. X was a “monster.” That Mrs. X had “known him her whole life” simply means that she was married to him for some time, probably over a decade. Marriages often seem to “last a lifetime,” even when they don’t.
So we can see that Mrs. X referred to Mr. X as an enigmatic person who fooled her into thinking he was ok for many years, but she had recently discovered that he was “a monster” and “a force of evil.”
If Mr. X is a psychopath (a possibility), then this report lines up perfectly. Bottom line is he would be fooling everyone. Everyone in town would think he was a standup guy, including the grandparents of girl he may have murdered himself. He was married for up to a decade to a wife before she was able to tear down his “mask of sanity.” See Harvey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity, 1947, the ultimate document ever written on psychopathy. They fool everyone for a long time, but after they have known them for some time, some people can uncover their true personas, which are nothing like their public images. “A force of evil” and “monster” are two terms people often use when they are able to take the mask off of a psychopath.
Mr. X’s Behavior on February 13-14, 2017
Mr. X has an alibi for the murders, that he was elsewhere in another town, when the murders occurred. Someone, possibly a friend, Mr. Z, was certain that they saw him elsewhere when the murders were committed. We don’t know who Mr. Z was. I say was because shockingly, Mr. Z is now dead. So Mr. X’s alibi is dead. That means that the alibi cannot be flipped anymore.
Curiously, Mr. X’s phone pinged the Child Protective Services building for several hours around the time of the murders. LE feels that the killer parked his car at the CPS building. No vehicle has yet been reported parked near the building. It would seem that Mr. X’s phone pinging the CPS building means he or his phone was there at the time, but Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere, and his phone was at his home pinging there looking for a signal. There are only two cell towers in town so that’s actually a possibility, albeit a remote one.
However, there is a report that an abandoned vehicle, possibly a white truck, was towed from the CPS building. There is currently a gag order imposed by the courts about the circumstances around this truck being towed.
Mr. X’s orange truck was parked hidden in the cemetery directly above where the girls were found. It stayed in this spot for at least the next 18 hours, from 6:30 PM until 12:30 PM the next day when the girls’ bodies were discovered. I say at least because no one knows exactly when Mr. X’s truck was first parked in the cemetery. Yes, it shows up there at 6:30 PM, but perhaps it had been parked there earlier without being seen.
Mr. X is also one of three people who discovered the bodies. Hence, Mr. X’s DNA is all around the crime scene as a discoverer of the crime. None of this DNA is usable in court. After he found the girls, Mr. X said called his wife and ran from the scene. Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. To me those two reactions seem pretty excessive, but that doesn’t prove anything. At 12:30 PM, the cemetery was filling up with police cars. Mr. X’s truck was in the way and was blocking in police cars.
Asked why he was parked there and if he would please move his truck, Mr. X stated that he had lost his car keys and he was going to call his wife to get her to bring a new set.
Three problems with that story.
Mr. X never lost his keys. They were in his pocket the whole time. He never called his wife to bring a spare set. Even worse, there was no spare set. Mr. X was later caught by LE in this lie about losing his car keys, and this is one of the things that provoked their interest in him. A tow truck came and Mr. X allowed his truck to be towed. He had to do this because he had to keep pretending that he had lost his keys, and obviously his wife had never shown up to bring a new one. No one knows what was in Mr. X’s truck at the time it was towed, and there’s no evidence that it was searched that day by LE.
I noted above that Mr. X’s truck was parked right above where the bodies were found for 18 hours starting at 6:30 PM February 13 until 12:30 PM February 14. For some time after 6:30 PM, Mr. X was presumably searching Ron Logan’s land.
Where was Mr. X between 6:30 PM Monday and 12:30 PM Tuesday? Did he stay out there next to his truck all night? Did he ever go home to his wife that night? We don’t knows the answers to those questions. His whereabouts during those 18 hours are a mystery. However, it is quite odd that his truck stayed right above the kill zone for 18 hours straight. What was point of leaving it there? He had his car keys. Why didn’t he drive it home after he finished searching Ron’s land Monday evening? None of this makes sense.
LE’s Investigation of Mr. X So Far
There’s no evidence that LE has ever served a search warrant on Mr. X, though they may have. They have his DNA. He took a lie detector test but the results were inconclusive. Mr. X has so far been cooperative with LE.
Mr. X Was Present at the 2019 Delphi Murders Town Hall Meeting
Mr. X was present at the 2019 press conference, sitting in the exact center of the room. He was wearing a hunting hat identical to BG’s hunting cap. LE was angry that BG was in the room. This is why Detective Carter was so livid. It’s also why Carter said, “The killer may be in this room right now.” However, he then looked away from Mr. X far to the right.
About That Fake Press Conference or Fakeference
Leaker said that the entire press conference was a gigantic ruse meant to trip up Mr. X, who, as noted, was in the room. The second sketch, which LE said was actually the real killer, was the catfish used to lure Libby off Snapchat.
The first sketch looks like Mr. X. They did this to make Mr. X think they had abandoned him and were looking at a false suspect.
The statement that they were looking for a young man aged 18-40 was also a lie, intended to make Mr. X think that they had lost his tail and were going off on a false tangent. Likewise with the report of the white truck at the CPS building. They highlighted this to make Mr. X think they were after the wrong vehicle and had abandoned the theory that his orange truck was involved. I have no idea what the cryptic references to The Shack movie were all about. You tell me.
These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. I have nothing but intense admiration for all of the detectives working on this case. I tire of all the silly repetitious condemnations of LE that they had blown it on this case. I see no evidence that this is true. Instead these guys are master craftsmen straight out of a Sherlock Holmes or John Buchan novel. They continue to amaze me.
Tobe Lozenby and Kelsi German Cleared in Delphi Murders
Via Leaker, several people came back with inconclusive lie detector results, including Sheriff Tobe Lozenby, who was actually a suspect for a while. Tobe has been cleared. The only DNA found at the crime scene on the girls’ bodies was Libby’s sister Kelsi’s. But Kelsi had lent Libby her sweater that day. Kelsi was looked at very closely by the FBI, but she was eventually cleared. Kelsi’s is the only DNA on the girls and presumably on the other objects at the scene. The killer appears to have thrown bleach over both girls and over all of the objects at the scene. There is an old rumor that he threw bleach over the girls’ genital regions that fits in with the new info about a bleach bottle left at the scene.
Brand New Information on Mr. X, the Prime Suspect!
This information comes from a retired LE officer in Illinois. We know him and we set him to work on Mr. X to see what he could dig up for us. He still has many LE contacts and he got in touch with them. After talking to his LE colleagues for a while, he got back to us.
He told us that Mr. X had a roommate in 2011-2012. This roommate looked at the BG video. He said that BG’s voice matched Mr. X’s perfectly. He said that BG’s clothes looked familiar, that is, looked like clothes that Mr. X liked to wear. And he said that the way BG walked was a dead on perfect match for BG’s walk. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. More on that later. The roommate reported his concerns to the Delphi hotline. This lines up with the Indiana Star article that also discussed Mr. X as a prime Delphi suspect and explored the possibility of a link between Delphi and Evansdale. So we have two sources for the roommate story.
We did a lot of sleuthing on Mr. X and learned that he was homeless for a time in the 2000’s when he was living in a shelter. There were some photos of him from that time but we can’t find them now. We can’t find much on him from before 2000 but he was in Illinois.
We also learned, which ought to be no surprise, that Mr. X had a rap sheet for a sex crime committed during the 1980’s when he was between 16 and 26 years old. Problem is we don’t know the nature of the sex crime. If Mr. X is BG, it makes perfect sense that he has a rap sheet for a sex crime. It also makes perfect sense that Delphi was not his first rodeo. What man with a clear rap sheet and no sex crimes in his background wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit a pair of sexual homicides?
Basically never happens. All these guys have a background. It’s true that some of these men commit a crime like this as young adults and then go on to live normal lives and never commit another homicide. A few cases recently have been solved by DNA of sex murders of young women committed by young men who then went on to live perfectly normal lives, marrying and raising kids, until they were caught by DNA in their 60’s and 70’s. For everyone saying Mr. X could not possibly have done it, the people who knew these men when they were arrested recently said the same thing.
The Evansdale Murders – Some Background
The Evansdale Murders are the double murders of two very young girls in Evansdale, Iowa, in 2012. They were younger than the teenage victims in this case, both below age 11. These were literally little girls. I don’t have time to go into the Evansdale Murders now. I recommend you look it up on the Net if you want some background.
A fellow sleuth read an article in a local newspaper a few years ago, but she can no longer find the article among her extensive files. I realize this is not a good source, but I do trust and believe her. She thought the paper was the Indiana Star. The article looked into the possibility that the Delphi Killer was responsible for the Evansdale Murders too. The article focused on Mr. X but did not name him, instead referring to him losing his keys during the search. The article implied that he was a prime suspect. The story noted that the suspect vehicle in the Delphi Murders was a white van. It was parked at the trailhead.
The girls were riding bicycles when they were accosted by the killer near the trailhead. Their bikes were strewn across the bike path. He had somehow removed them from their bikes and gotten them into his van. The van is the suspect vehicle because it was seen at the trailhead just before the girls vanished.
Five months later, the girls’ bodies were found in a wooded area near water six miles away at a wildlife refuge. The bodies were in very bad shape, and the cause of death could not be ascertained.
One of the girls’ parents was heavily involved in meth, manufacturing it and selling large quantities. He was arrested and sent to jail after the girls were killed. A drug connection appears to be ruled out.
The FBI for some odd reason felt that the girls had been left alive for a week after they were abducted. If this is so, they were probably being raped and possibly beaten or tortured during this time. What a chilling thought.
According to the article, Mr. X was driving a white van right around the time of the Evansdale Murders. Furthermore, a white van had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the murders. It was not seen again after the girls were abducted.
Mr. M., A Previous Prime Suspect in the Evansdale Murders
I previously had another prime suspect for the Evansdale Murders who I will not name other than calling him Mr. M. His ex-wife, Mrs. S., is convinced that he killed those girls. She has since remarried and moved to Arkansas. I’ve spoken with her at length, and I like her a lot. I’ve also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. Mr. M is a pure pedophile. His Facebook page is full of photos of little girls. They’re crawling all over the page. According to Mrs. S., Mr. M dressed his two sons up in girls’ clothes and molested them for five years. He was never arrested for this abuse.
Another woman from Iowa who worked with Mrs. S., Ms. C., told me she and Mrs. S thought this man was a member of a network of pedophiles or possibly or sadistic pedophiles. Sadistic pedophiles are 5% of all pedophiles. They are called misophiles. Most sexual murders of children are committed by misophiles. As with sadistic rapists, 5% of all rapists, misophiles are quite dangerous. Most rapists who murder are sadistic rapists. Anger rapists sometimes kill in a rage if the victim fights back, but generally they just threaten or possibly hurt the rape victim without killing her.
Ms. C told me that in these misophile networks, the ultimate high is considered to be to be get two little girls at once and rape, torture, and murder them. That is just horrible.
This would be akin to the “double cherry” murders that some US soldiers committed in the Vietnam War. The soldiers would abduct a virgin teenage girl from presumably a hostile village, rape her, and then murder her. That’s terrible. It really hits me hard.
Mr. M has been investigated by the FBI six different times for the Evansdale Murders. Each time they describe him as a suspect. They clear him each time after a while, and then they simply say that he is not a suspect. I was sure that Mr. M. killed those girls, as his behavior around that time was very suspicious, but now I am not so sure. The FBI is said to be very angry at me for my articles on Mr. M, who I simply referred to as Mr. X, because they think it will harm his ability to get a fair trial. I doubt if he did it, but maybe I will take those articles down if they’re making the FBI mad.
LE Now Feels that BG Also Committed the Evansdale Murders
The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. The state in which the bodies were left and the choice of dump sites were the same in both killings, and strange objects were found with the Evansdale girls similar to the weird objects found with the Delphi victims.
In addition to Mr. M above, another man was a suspect in the Evansdale Murders. He had abducted two girls, one 12 and the other 15 years old and taken them to a barn where he had tied to them up. While he was raping and killing the 15 year old girl, the 12 year old girl escaped. The poor 15 year old girl did not, and her body was found dumped nearby shortly afterwards. Unfortunately he killed himself before he could be taken to trial.
For a long time, LE thought his man did the Evansdale murders. After all, two female minors were abducted at once in both crimes and were either killed or there was an attempt made to kill both of them. However, LE said that this man’s MO was completely different from the MO used in the Evansdale murders, so he probably didn’t do it.
Lists have been made of all of the similarities between the Evansdale Murders and the Delphi Murders. The coincidences are shocking. The dates of the Evansdale and Delphi Murders are exactly reversed. Also both sets of girls were killed on the 13th, traditionally an unlucky number and day.
If LE suspects Mr. X of both crimes, this means that he was living in Delphi at the time of the Delphi murders, moving away only recently. He lived in Delphi most of the last decade. Around 2011-2102 was when he first moved to Delphi. Prior to that he had been bouncing around small towns in Indiana. At this time, he had a male roommate who suspects Mr. X in not only the Delphi murders but also the Evansdale Murders. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, he was living in or around Delphi at the time. It would have been a long-distance murder. So Mr. X would have lived in Delphi when he committed both the Evansdale and Delphi Murders.
BG May Well Be a Serial Killer
It is important to note that if BG also committed the Evansdale Murders, he is a serial killer. I have felt from the start that BG might be a serial. The crime was too brazen and skillfully carried out to be a first shot. And who wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit horrible sex murders? Pretty much nobody. He would have been 46 when he did the Evansdale Murders, but he may have committed a sex crime between the ages of 16-26, so there’s your prior earlier in life. Almost all of these guys have red flags like this early ion life.
Mr. X May Have an Aberrant Age Sexual Orientation
I hate to bring up this subject since it sets off so many lies about me, but I’m forced to because Mr. X may have an aberrant age sexual orientation and this has forensic consequences. First a brief tutorial on age orientations in men.
Sexual orientation is not just towards sex as in homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.
Males have three main age orientations:
Teleiophile: Maximally attracted to mature females 16+. All normal males fall into this category. The react to 13-15 year old girls too, but at a lower level. And 90-100% of them react to even girls from 7-12, albeit at a substantially lower level. The presence of attractions is not what is important here. The importance lies in the degree of the attractions relative to other ages. Depending on the definition, 23% of teleiophilic men also show strong attraction to girls under 16. However, as they have strong attractions to mature females also, we tend not to worry about these men. There are too many of them anyway.
Some teleiophilic killers go as low as 12 as Bundy did, but that is because 12 year old girls are barely starting to look like women, especially with the abnormally long legs. These killers almost never commit sex murders of little girls. Or if they do, they do it when they are boys. For instance, Bundy killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14. But that’s a fairly normal attraction for a 14 year old boy to have.
Hebephile: Although age ranges vary, I prefer the age range of 12-15 for hebephiles. Some move the lower end down a bit. These men are maximally attracted to pubescent girls and have little to no attraction to mature females. Perhaps ~3% of men are primary hebephiles. Hebephilia is not considered to be a mental disorder as attraction to pubescent females is quite normal among teleiophilic men. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims.
However, ~23% of men react maximally to girls age 12-15 at a level equal to or higher than their reaction to mature females. So high attraction to girls in this range is quite normal. The thing is that these men are also strongly attracted to adult women. The hebephilic attraction is an antisocial attraction. The attraction to adult women is a prosocial attraction. Probably most of these men repress or suppress their hebephilic urges which will land them in prison if they act on them and instead focus on their prosocial urges towards adult women, which are completely legal.
Hebephilia is a problem when men have little to no attraction to mature females so the only way to satisfy their sexual urges is to have sex with a 12-15 year old girl. That’s illegal in most places, either child molestation in the case of 12 year olds or statutory rape for 13-15 year olds. In quite a few countries, 15 year old girls are legal, so hebephiles may stay out of trouble there. These men are automatically dangerous because the only way to fulfill their sexual drive is to commit a crime.
Pedophilia: Probably the most grotesquely abused word of the 21st Century. Nowadays an 18 year old boy has sex with a 17 year old girl, gets arrested, goes to jail, gets called a pedophile and a child molester, and sees his name go on a sex offender registry for life. This is a result of a huge Sex Panic around the sexuality of teenage girls because we cannot acknowledge that they are fully sexual creatures without falling into a Puritanical moral panic.
As a result of this mass hysteria around the subject, the perfectly legitimate category of statutory rape (I prefer the term illegal intercourse) has been absurdly conflated with the child molestation of little girls under 13, which admittedly is a problem. Stat rape is psychologically normal behavior for adult men. It is a moral and legal problem, not a psychological one. Many adults feel that men who have sex with teenage girls are bad, evil, depraved, immoral, etc.
Because of society’s morals, much of this behavior is illegal. Societies have a right to have any morals they wish to. Stat rape is probably not harmful to teenage girls. But it is dangerous behavior for men to engage in, as you might get caught and go to jail or prison in the midst of an insane moral panic about this subject. Older men who break these laws are idiots and do not get my sympathy.
Anyway, pure pedophilia is an age orientation whereby men are maximally attracted to girls under 13 and have little to no attraction to mature females. Many start losing interest in girls as soon as they hit 13. It is associated by child molestation, but not all pedophiles molest, and many can go 20-30 years without offending. Also, 75% of child molesters are not pedophiles. They are teliophilic men who are just criminals who prey on easy targets. This behavior is associated with other forms of abuse such as psychological, physical, and verbal abuse. It’s just another form of abuse from an abusive man.
On the other hand, strong pedophilic attraction is quite normal in men. It is only abnormal where it is combined with little or no attraction to adult women. 21% of men react to girls under 13 as strongly or stronger than they do to adult women. But only 3% of men are pure pedophiles, so 18% of men have strong attractions to both mature women and little girls. As with the hebephilic attraction above, men who have high attraction to both women and little girls presumably suppress or repress their antisocial pedophilic attraction and focus on their prosocial attraction to adult women. It sounds like a good way to stay out of prison.
Pure pedophiles are automatically dangerous because the only way they can fulfill their sexual urges is by committing the serious crime of child molestation. Pedophilia, a way of thinking or a sexual orientation, is of course completely legal as are all ways of thinking. However, the behavior that can result from this thinking, child molestation, is very much illegal, and rightly so.
Based on the pure forensics, the Evansdale Killer is a pedophilic sex murderer or a misophile. The Delphi Killer is either a hebephilic sex murderer or he has a normal age orientation and is a teliophilic sex killer. The problem is what do we do when a man kills two girls, 8 and 10 and then kills two more girls, 13 and 14. In the first crime, the killer is almost always pedophilic and in the second crime, the man rarely if ever pedophilic.
A solution to this problem lies in the notion of pedohebephilia.
Pedohebephilia: Apparently there is a significant group of men who react maximally to girls under 16 all the way down to little girls, encompassing both pedophilic and hebephilic attractions. They have little to no attraction to mature females or adult women. The available literature suggests that this group is larger than we thought.
Does Mr. X Have an Aberrant Age Attraction?
The answer appears to be yes. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, we have to think again about his sexual age orientation. Many killers with a normal age orientation will kill teenage girls since they look like women. So they kill teenage girls and grown women because they both look like women. Killers of teenage girls do not typically have an abnormal age orientation as it’s perfectly normal for healthy males to be highly aroused by underage teenage girls. The studies are clear on this.
However, killers who commit sexual murders of little girls under 13 are a different breed. This is beyond the pale for even most serial killers. The one murder that Ted Bundy would never confess to was an 8 year old girl he is thought to have killed when he was only 14 years old. Even for Ted Bundy this was considered shameful. Men who kill teenage girls and women almost never commit sexual murders of little girls. Sex murderers of little girls almost always have a strong pedophilic age orientation, although occasionally they attack adults too, as in the killer of Madeline McMurray who murdered a 3 year old girl, probably killed an 8 year old girl in Germany, and raped and brutally beat a 70 year old woman.
Nevertheless, Madeline’s killer is strongly pedophilic, as a large quantity of child porn was found among his possessions. In addition, a number of little girls’ swimsuits were found in his van. Any man possessing such items will always have a strong pedophilic orientation.
I had previously thought that BG had a normal age orientation for the above reasons. However, 13-14 year old girls also fall into the range of hebephiles who are maximally aroused by 12-15 year old girls and feel little to no attraction to mature females.
I spent a bit of time on their forums studying them. They’re disturbing. They don’t post child porn on there, so their forums are clean. In case yiou think it’s weird to go to such forums, half the people in the forum were hebephiles and another half were hebephile haters threatening to kill the hebephiles and have them arrested. So it’s very common for non-hebephiles to be on these forums.
The hebephiles would scream, “No grandmas!” every time someone posted a 16 year old girl. If a man doesn’t think 16 year old girls are disgusting old ladies, he can’t possibly be a hebephile. This is what they are like.
The victims in the Evansdale and Delphi Murders were girls ranging in age from 8-14. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. You can see above that there is an age sexual orientation called pedohebephilia. When they were trying to sneak Hebephilia into the DSM-5, regular reference was made to this group.
Pedohebephiles combine both categories. They are maximally attracted to girls under 16 down to little girls and feel little to no attraction to mature females. If Mr. X did the Evansdale Murders, then he may be a pedohebephile in terms of age attraction.
This is more important than you think because age attractions of sex killers are an important part of forensics and especially profiling. Presumably we should look in the background of Mr. X to see evidence of a strong attraction to girls under 16, possibly combined with a low attraction to adult females.
In that case, he may collect child pornography or go to child porn sites. He may have child and teen erotica in his home. He may have shown evidence in his life of an abnormal interest in little girls or young teenage girls. People close to him may have noticed this over time. In fact, Mr. X was the leader of a young people’s Christian group. The ages of the minors in that group are not known. Investigators should be looking for a man with a strong focus on little girls and young teenage girls as preferred sexual objects. This should be an important part of the investigation.
More on the Official Case Document(s) I Obtained
I am keeping the number, nature, and provenance of the document(s) deliberately vague as I am trying to protect the source who mailed them to me as photocopies. As I discussed in my last update, I recently came upon photocopies one or more official document(s) relating to the case. The document(s) are from either LE or the judicial system or both at the same time. They are signed by two different entities. The document(s) are the property of a man in the community who was investigated as a suspect in this case and relate to LE’s investigation of him. He was cleared of involvement in the case.
Proof That BG Fired a Gun During the Crime
One of the revelations in those document(s) was that BG fired a gun during this crime. This has been subsequently appended by two new rumors that there was a bullet cartridge found at the site and that LE is looking for an odd gun, a collector’s edition .40 or 10mm, that was used in the crime.
It’s pretty clear that at least one cartridge was probably found at the scene because in the document(s), it says that LE is looking for a gun in connection with this crime in order to do ballistics tests on it. In order to do ballistics tests, you need a spent cartridge fired from the gun in question. That can only mean that BG fired a gun at some point in this crime.
The rumor that the gun was a collector’s edition .40 is definitely unconfirmed. I don’t even know the provenance of this rumor. See in the comments below though where a commenter casts doubt on the notion of any .40 gun being a collector’s edition.
Crime Scene Photos from the Helicopter Now Proven Legitimate
In my last post, I ran a number of photos taken from the helicopter footage on February 14, 2017 when the girls’ bodies were discovered. We focused on the area where you can see all the camera flashes going off in a circle. That has to be the crime scene with CSI people photographing the scene. There are a couple of reddish objects that can be very vaguely seen in the center of those camera flashes.
The photos were blown up and manipulated with software in a Youtube video by a theoretical physicist who seems credible. Many people say there is nothing there but pixellation and artifacts. However, I now have reason to believe that my analysis of these photos is correct. In order to discuss this, unfortunately I am going to have to print those photos again.
First pic above. Both Abby and Libby.
Second pic above. Libby alone.
Third pic above. Both girls, good quality image. Note the knife on or near Libby’s shoulder in green.
Libby’s legs highlighted above.
One of the things I pointed out in these images is that the killer spread both of the girls’ legs wide open after disrobing them below the waist. This is obviously a sexual position that females adopt when on their backs in order to be penetrated by males via PIV sex. It’s also quite violating considering the ages of these girls and what was done to them.
However, see below how I was able to validate that those are indeed crime scene photos above and that the girls legs were both spread and a knife was either plunged into poor Libby’s shoulder or the log next to her.
A Woman Member of the Search Team Who Came upon the Scene Afterwards Speaks
I recent talked to a woman who was part of the search team. She came upon the site after the girls had been found. What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century.
First of all, we need to look at the credibility of this woman as a source. She was sent to me by a sleuther who I consider to be among the finest and most professional of all. This person told me that he found this woman to be very credible. She wasn’t the sort of person to make things up – more like the opposite.
There are references below to an elaborate crime scene with posing of the girls and all sorts of crazy and unlikely objects scattered about. First of all, I’ve been hearing these rumors forever, and I’ve been laughing as hard as anyone. I thought they were ridiculous. But now here I have a credible witness, a female member of the search team, who told me about this weird crime scene, and it turns out a lot of the crazy stuff I’ve been laughing at all this time may well be true.
A question has been brought up about how would BG transport these various objects to the crime scene, as they could easily been seen on his person in the photo on the bridge. I concur. The searcher is clear that one object was so large that he could have been carrying it when he was photographed on the bridge. I don’t believe he brought any of this stuff (other than the bleach bottle that can be seen in his left pant leg) to the crime scene when he abducted those girls.
Instead I believe he either prepared the crime scene in advance with all this weird stuff scattered about or he came back after the murders and created his little Fantasyland murder scene.
Girls Staged in a Sexual Tableau at the Crime Scene
She told me that both girls’ legs were spread. However, she had not yet seen these crime scene photos. Also, I had not talked to her before I ran those photos and determined that the girls’ legs were spread (see photos above). What is the likelihood that she made up a lie about the girls’ legs being spread at the same time as I found some crime scene photos that I interpreted as the girls’ legs being spread? About 0%. So I consider it proven now that BG disrobed both girls below the waist and then spread their legs wide in a sexual tableau imitating PIV sex.
Staging of a Knife Attack on a Girl Made to Appear Self-Inflicted
She said that Libby’s head was leaning against a log.A knife had been plunged either into her shoulder or on the log next to her shoulder.Libby’s hand was positioned to make her appear to be holding the knife that stabbed her in the shoulder. So Libby was posed inflicting a self-inflicted wound upon herself.
As you can see in the photo above, the object highlighted in green is obviously a knife. Once again, what are the odds that she made up a lie about a knife positioned just this way at the same time as I saw these photos and interpreted them as being of a knife positioned just this way? About zero. At this point, I consider it proven that BG plunged a knife into or near Libby’s shoulder.
Spreading their legs in that sexually receptive pose was bad enough, but BG did worse than that. According to this woman, BG had stripped both girls below the waist and had positioned phallic shaped objects between their legs perpendicular to their crotches. He placed a doll between poor Abby’s legs to make it appear she was being penetrated by a doll. Worse, he positioned a log in between poor Libby’s legs, making it appear that she was being penetrated with a log!
This would not be the first time women have been posed like this. I had the misfortune of seeing crime scene photos from the Hillside Strangler case. A dead woman is positioned in a bathtub, and a broom handle of an intact broom is shoved into her vagina.
But wait. Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse, they do just that. Kind of like, you know, life itself?
Dolls Hanging from Trees at the Crime Scene!
Apparently the doll rumor is true!
The woman told me that dolls were scattered about at the scene in addition to the one shoved between Abby’s legs. Other dolls were, incredibly enough, hanging from the trees at the kill zone!
Giant Plush Stuffed Bear Toy at the Crime Scene? Who Knows? Maybe?
You’re heard the rumor of the gigantic stuffed animal left at the scene? That rumor was so pathetic that I discounted it immediately as ridiculous. Well, guess what? The woman told me that a large toy-like object was left at the scene. She didn’t tell me what it was, but she did say it was so large that BG could not possibly have smuggled it to the scene when he abducted the girls because it would have been seen in the video.
Smiley Face Killers Signature at the Crime Scene
There was also a large white sheet left at the scene with a smiley face scrawled on it. According to the theoretical physicist, he seemed to be saying that this smiley face sheet had been hung from trees. This crime scene is getting seriously nuts.
Remember the bizarre Smiley Face Murders, the possible drownings of severely intoxicated young adult college age men in the Eastern US over a period of 10-20 years? No one knows if these are actual murders or just accidental drownings, but there are a couple of retired crack detectives who are certain that these are homicides, albeit very cleverly disguised ones. I believe that these are homicides.
They are called the Smiley Face Murders because in many cases, smiley faces were seen drawn on bridges where the drowned bodies were found. It is thought that these drunken young men may have been tossed off of bridges. The other theory of course is that these are simply college aged men who drunk to severe intoxication before deciding to go for a fatal midnight swims. This has been the default interpretation of these murders. Assuming these really are murders, this person(s) may have invented the perfect crime: homicides designed as accidents.
This brings up another theory. One of my sleuther friends suggested that the killer is a serial killer fan. Possibly he is mixing up signatures of different killers in order to throw people off. That may or may not be the case.
Objects staged to appear to be shoved inside female victims’ vaginas would be an imitation of the Hillside Stranglers’ signatures. I’ve heard other killers used this signature, including a child killer in Indiana who was executed just last year who had rammed an object inside the vagina of a little girl he killed.
The smiley face cloth appears to be a reference to the Smiley Face Murders, a mystery involving many mysterious deaths that may be either accidents or homicides staged as accidents.
I don’t know of any serials who have used dolls in staging their crimes, but I suppose they may exist.
On the other hand, and I think this is a better theory, I think that at least some of these things are signatures particular to this killer. I say this because similar posing and objects were reported with the Evansdale Murders, who LE now suspects BG of committing.
Photo of Possible Bleach Bottle in BG’s Left Pant Leg
Another crazy rumor, that of a bleach bottle left at the scene, was also validated by the woman. In the photos below, you can see what may be the bleach bottle in his left jeans pocket.
It looks like he tossed bleach all over everything – the girls, the dolls, the plush object, the sheet, the crucifix, the log, you name it. Thereby killing all of the DNA.
DNA, SHMEE-ENAY, Give It a Rest Already
I get tired of all this endless talk of DNA. Assuming that Mr. X is the prime suspect, they already have his DNA.It’s all over the crime scene in the surrounding forest but it’s not on the girls or on any of the objects, probably because the threw bleach all over them.
I do have an unverified report that they have nine markers of a DNA profile via skin cells from an unknown male recovered from one of the girls. Problem is that’s not many markers. It’s known as a partial DNA sample. I don’t have the exact figures, but a match with Mr. X on those nine markers might mean that there’s a 1 in 10 chance it’s him. In other words, 10% of men have those markers. They can’t use that in court, but these partial matches are useful to LE because they give LE additional confidence that they have the right suspect.
Reportedly, LE has one smudged fingerprint from the crime scene. No one knows who it might be from. It doesn’t sound like it’s very usable.
The Crime Scene Had to Have Been Set up Before or Afterwards
Obviously, BG picked out this spot in advance and somehow planted the logs, dolls, sheet, plush object, etc. at the scene ahead of time without getting caught. He set up this crime scene before the murders. How did he do it? When? Why was he not seen?
Alternately, BG killed the girls and then went back to the scene between the sometime in the night of February 13 and early morning of February 14 and created this crazy Disneyland crime scene. The same questions posed above apply here too. I’m actually leaning towards the latter, as insane as that sounds. But really, if these crime scene rumors are true, just about anything, including the most insane notions, may be correct about this craziest of crimes.
Keep in mind that none of the wild stories above from the woman searcher are confirmed yet as they comes from a single, albeit seemingly unimpeachable, source. But we need more than that to confirm rumors in this case.* Nevertheless, the continuous nature of these bizarre rumors, now backed up by an excellent eyewitness, does add some credibility to these insane rumors.
If this crime scene is anything like what this woman describes it as, then this is shaping up to be one of the weirdest, most insane double homicides of the 21st Century.
*Notice that I am getting stricter about my criteria for confirmation of rumors in this case. We played fast and loose with words and phrases like confirmed, true, solid proof, etc. in this past. Once bitten, twice shy when it comes to that.
Yet another BLM fake “police brutality against Blacks” video making the rounds, skillfully edited to make the cops seem like the bad guys and the inevitable ghetto Blacks – not regular decent Black folks per se but actual ghetto Blacks – which are almost all of the Black problem – seem like innocent, dipped-in-goodness-and-mercy Children of God.
Problem is the video was fake. The man was going 101 mph in a 55 zone, so he got pulled over for speeding. Then he refused to give the cop his driver’s license. When the officer was trying to cuff him, he resisted arrest just like these fake BLM brutality cases always do. The cop showed remarkable restraint when the man started fighting with the cop and threw the officer off of him. The officer pulled his taser on the man but didn’t even use it, instead waiting for backup.
The man kept arguing with the cop in an exercise in utter futility. His ghetto Black girlfriend tried to talk some sense into him, but to no avail. Finally backup showed up, they tried to cuff the man, and all Hell broke loose. The girlfriend, previous sensible, went into full ratchet mode, screaming at the two cops as they tried to wrestle the man to the ground. This is the only part of the video that the BLM liars released. As you can see, the man resisted both officers when they tried to cuff him, so they obviously had to wrestle him to the ground.
This post has now been updated. See here for the April 4 update. It’s even crazier than this update!
This post is very long. It runs to 29 pages. I’m sorry but I’m afflicted with both graphomania and logorrhea (same thing). We writers love to write and once we get started, we just can’t quit, like any other addiction to dope, gambling, sex, porn, or whatever. Except you never get the peak high, and there’s no post-high crash. The high continues the whole time, and there’s relief when you’re done as in an accomplished chore instead of a crash. Sort of, “I’m sure glad that’s over.” We love it yet it’s a chore. Kind of like, you know, life.
You just can’t stop. Supposedly writing too much is a sign of a lousy writer, but then we must convict Balzac and Dickens, not to mention encyclopedists like Pynchon and the king of the graphomaniacs, Proust. I’d rather not do that.
It’s not so much the sign of a lousy writer as the sign of a writer, as in a born writer, a real writer. Just as there are men and real men, so there are writers and real writers.
Obviously it’s a flaw. It’s violates White’s Manual of Style (Keep it simple, stupid) and a lot of other things, including the reader’s precious time. But all great things come with flaws just as there is a bit of good in even most horrors.
Anyway, what do you think editors are for? To mop up our Niagra of words, that’s what.
A bit here on my ever-growing army of haters. I’ve met some new folks lately, and they all say, “You know, I heard all these horrible things about you, but I wasn’t sure if they were true. Now that I contacted you, I know it’s all garbage. You’re like the nicest guy in the world.” Well, yeah. The obvious conclusion of someone who really knows me. Which is like…just about no one.
Anyway, haters, oh haters! If you hate me so much, why do you read? I don’t get it. I don’t read people I hate. I might use their prose for toilet paper or lining bird cages, but I certainly won’t read it. I have better things to do, like enjoying life instead of hating it like you do. If you hate me that much, just go away. Don’t read. Unless you’re someone to whom hate is as valuable as oxygen. In that case, do come and get your fix.
One more thing. Nothing the haters ever said about me is true except that I’m broke, don’t have a regular job, and at one point my car broke down and I didn’t have the money to fix it. None of the sexual proclivities or obsessions they say I have are true. I don’t mind people who think that way, but it’s not for me, sorry. Once again, anyone who really knows me figures this out. Which, once again, is like, just about nobody.
How bout one more one more thing, just to try your patience? There’s a lot of graphic commentary below, including gruesome descriptions of the brutal murders of two young teenage girls. True crime is a nasty beast by its nature. There’s no way to pretty up this pig. If your true crime commentary isn’t brutal, you’re avoiding the facts. If you have a sensitive stomach about such things, just don’t read. Go read about flowers or something instead.
Oh, one more two more things. There are are blown up and edited to Hell images below taken from a helicopter hovering over the crime scene. In the images, some can make out the outlines of the two young victims. Not much is visible. They may as well be stick figures. Nevertheless, a lot of tender folks freak out on such things. So don’t look at them. Have a cup of coffee and think of sunshine and smiles instead.
Oh and one more three things. I would like to officially thank “Cory Ahlm” and “Ryan Vanslooten,” whoever the Hell they are, assuming they even exist in the first place, two of my very best friends going so far back I can’t even remember when we first met. They’ve been with me from the start and the start of this case, and I couldn’t have done anything without them. I could barely have existed without them! Speaking of which, I wish I was in California! The weather here is fit for Polar Bears and few else. By the way, I’ve heard of doppelgangers, but who ever thought there could be a double doppelganger? Only in the movies!
This will be a follow-on to my earlier post here. Anything published in the early post that has not changed will not be republished here. Only new items and old items that have changed will be listed here.
First of all, about the purpose of this website. The purpose of this site has simply been a clearinghouse for rumors about the Delphi Murders on Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017. That’s all we ever wrote. It’s true we were fast and loose with some of those rumors, reporting them as truth, and that is unfortunate. But that’s how it goes in this business.
So every time you hear people bashing the Hell out of this site for something we printed, keep in mind that that was just some rumor we heard and printed. That’s all it ever was. Of course, we have been trying to winnow the rumors down into those we have more confidence and less confidence in from the very start, but that’s easier said than done.
I would estimate that 95% of the rumors I have printed about this case have proven to be false. In fact, 95% of anything you have heard about this case anywhere over time is probably false.
I suppose I should go over some of these old dead rumors because idiots keep accusing us of pushing these theories. Now, when I say a rumor is considered dead, not credible, false, not true, etc., please leave me alone and quit accusing me of pushing an old story I’ve long since discredited. I will start with dead rumors or highly dubious rumors. After I do that, I will discuss rumors that have more credibility.
Dead or Highly Dubious Rumors
The barn theory: Has to do with the Mears barn across the street from Ron Logan’s house. We have a photo of cadaver dogs searching the barn. Also there was a small shrine with flowers inside the structure. And the owners acted very strange when we asked if the barn had been used in the crime. The barn theory is continuing to be pushed by a woman who says the girls were removed from the area, taken to the barn, killed there, and then returned to the dump site. Despite all of this, we regard the barn story as dead.
The initial K was carved in trees at the crime scene. We got this secondhand from a LE source. Turns out it was a bad rumor. As you can see, LE sources are not so reliable.
The White Dodge Dart: We formerly thought this had something to do with the crime. Turns out it was a great big dead end, one of many in this case. A white Dodge Dart is not involved in the case.
The crime had Satanic overtones. Indeed, we theorized this in the early days after the crime. In part it was due to bizarre reports from people who saw crime scene photos that the crime appeared to have occult or Satanic overtones. We now feel that this is false. There is no evidence of occult or Satanic overtones to this crime.
A previous report said that Abby was raped via PIV sex and fluids were left at the scene. This rumor is now judged false. The rumor also stated that the motive of the crime was the rape of Abby Williams. This is also false.
A previous report stated that the girls were bound with ropes around their backs. We judge that false. Instead, we believe that they were handcuffed.
A previous report said that the crime scene “begins in the Robertson’s backyard and continues for 1,000 feet.” We regard this as unconfirmed to say the least. Probably best disregarded for now.
A previous report said that at least two searchers touched the bodies and one tried to revive the girls with mouth to mouth resuscitation. We now regard this rumor as probably false and unconfirmed to say the least. There’s no evidence for it at the moment.
A previous report said that the cause of death of Abby Williams was a knife wound to the heart. We now judge this as rumor as false. Instead, we feel, via Leaker, that Abby was struck over the head with a blunt object (we believe it was the killer’s gun). She was also stabbed in the main artery of her neck. It is not known which assault was fatal.
A previous report said that some sort of bleach or toilet bowl cleaner was thrown on the girls’ bodies, in particular their genitalia, in order to destroy DNA evidence of the crime. This is rumor is unconfirmed.
Our POI: We had a sleuthing group with 200 members. I had a POI and I built quite a large case against him. In fact, LE contacted us and asked us to send them everything we had on this man. In addition, the Indiana State Police were verified as harassing this man at one point by repeatedly calling him on the phone. I know the name of the detective who was doing that, too. In addition, this man was a suspect according to the FBI, who tricked him into coming up to Michigan, only to detain and get a DNA sample from him.
As you can see this man was a considered a suspect by both the FBI and the ISP, so please stop accusing us of harassing him. We never published his name one time over the years, and I will not do it now. I won’t even publish his initials. We had a private pay-only group where we discussed him, but that was it. That’s like talking about someone within the confines of a private home. This man also made a series of videos where he seemed to be confessing to being the Bridge Guy (the UNSUB in the murders). In addition, he seemed to be taunting LE and viewers in these videos. Excuse me for suspecting that a guy who making videos almost literally confessing to being BG might actually be the killer!
This man is not a very nice person, but I no longer feel that he had anything to do with this crime. His quasi-confessions go down on the list of false confessions in this case. Counting hazy cases like this, I count four false confessions so far.
I would apologize to him for falsely accusing him behind closed doors, but he threatened to murder me many times, so I’ll pass on that. In cases like these, possible suspects who seem like good possibilities for being the culprit are often run through the ringer, only to be dismissed. They’re often pretty suspicious people. I’d appreciate it if people would leave this fellow alone. He’s not very pleasant anyway.
Rumors That Have More Credibility
The girls’ bodies were violated with sticks and branches. We have caught Hell and high water for this one, however, this rumor has some staying power.
It showed up quickly within a week of the murders when a local young man published photos of the crime scene that he had somehow obtained. He described the murders as “occult-like” and wondered if there was an occult or Satanic connection. He described a branch plunged into the body of one of the girls.
Next, we received confirmation of this via an associate of a detective working on the case. He had told his SO details about the case, and we got the data from there. This person said the detective had told them that the girls’ bodies were violated with sticks and branches, in particular, that sticks had been inserted into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. That sounds pretty awful but this is one terrible crime.
Finally, a woman came to me and apologized. She said she had been mad at me for spreading this rumor but she had recently been able to confirm its truth via a detective in another area of LE who had seen crime scene photos. This man added that Abby had a branch plunged into her body just below her solar plexus in her chest. So far we have three verfications of this rumor, two from people who saw crime scene photos and two from LE with some overlap. Nevertheless, we still regard this rumor as unconfirmed though definitely possible with the two LE confirmations.
And the more you learn about this crime, believe me, the more you would not be surprised at the cruelty and bizarreness of abusing these girls’ bodies in this way because that seemed to be a major focus on the crime – violating, dishonoring, shaming, and debasing these girls with cruelty and contempt and then posing them in a degrading and humiliating manner. In addition, the killer’s behavior a few hours after the crime was another taunt and a cruel dancing on these girls’ graves after their deaths. This is one Hell of a dark crime.
One girl was pregnant: This has been a rumor from the very first weeks after the crime. The same woman above also apologized for being mad at me over this rumor. However, she told me that she was able to confirm this rumor via a sheriff’s deputy in nearby county. Nevertheless, I suppose it remains formally unverified, and keep in mind some of our LE sources have told us false things. The rumor is that one girl was in the very early stages of pregnancy. We are not going to say which girl it was. Based on the recent verification we got from LE, we regard as it quite possibly true, but it would be nice to get some more confirmation.
A longstanding rumor is that Libby German was killed by a deep knife cut to her neck. This was recently confirmed by a new source named Leaker, who I regard as credible. Apparently his wife accessed documents relating to the case at her job at the courthouse. I have also verified this sad fact via the girl’s own mother who saw the wound. This rumor is 100% confirmed.
A previous report said that Libby was attacked with a gut knife in her abdomen, resulting in a partial disembowelment of this poor girl. If this wound took place, it was after she was dead. A gut knife is one of the knives that would be present in that deer kit (a deer hunter’s kit containing five knives) that BG has around his waist. Partial verification of this is in the form of reports of detectives going around to local hardware stores in the weeks after the murders asking if anyone had bought a gut knife recently.
Presumably one of the wounds to the girl(s) was via this sort of a knife. On the other hand there is a new rumor that a gut knife was left at the scene. This man also lists a number of items the killer left at the scene that stretches credulity. Leaving a gut knife at the scene is unverified and seems quite dubious. A knife with no DNA? That the girl was attacked in this terrible manner is also completely unconfirmed. However, detectives definitely feel that a gut knife was used in this crime.
New Information from Leigh Kerr (Leaker)
Quite a bit of new information came out a few weeks ago via an appearance by a man named Leaker, identified above. He is a pastor who lives in Lafayette. His access to investigation documents is described above. Leaker was extremely controversial, yet for a variety of reasons, I regard him as credible. He gave us a lot of new information, much of which may be correct. Keep in mind that both local LE and FBI have commented on Leaker’s remarks, saying that nothing he said was true. But that is to be expected.
Leaker says that there is a prime suspect in the case. Based on the facts laid out, he can only mean a Delphi resident, recently moved to Monticello, who I will call Mr. X. I could use his initials but that doesn’t seem right. This man is either the prime suspect or Leaker is trying to frame him, one or the other. I think he’s the prime suspect.
According to Leaker, Mr. X was involved in the search party. At some point during the searching, he claimed to have lost his keys. His truck was parked overnight, hidden in the cemetery right above where the girls were found. It was still there the next day when the cemetery was full of police vehicles. This is because Mr. X lost his keys at some point. I believe he claims to have lost his keys while searching. Although Mr. X claims that he called his wife to come bring an extra set of car keys, his truck stayed there overnight and into the next day, which seems odd. On the afternoon after the bodies were found, Mr. X’s truck was towed.
At 6 PM, Mr. X asked permission to search Ron Logan’s land. Permission was granted. This request can be linked to the truck hidden at the cemetery as this is where he obviously was parked when he made this request, however, we do not know when the truck arrived there. Mr. X then searched Logan’s land. Although it was dusk, it would seem to be hard to miss the girls right below where his truck was parked.
Mr. X was back searching in the area on Logan’s land at 12:30 PM February 14. He and 1-3 other persons spotted the girls bodies. There is a rumor that Mr. X looked through his binoculars, spotted a deer, and then looked down and saw the girls. This seems credible to me although some say that LE just made this up as a ruse. The searchers did not come very close to the bodies. Who all found the bodies is still quite up in the air. After he found the bodies, there is a rumor that Mr. X was so traumatized that he ran from the scene. He then needed psychotherapy for some time after discovering the bodies. Both of those behaviors seem pretty over the top, even for such a gruesome crime.
Mr. X is the prime suspect for a variety of reasons. For one, there was a small change in his story.
Leaker said, in shocking news, that Mr. X’s phone was pinging at the abandoned Child Protective Services (CPS) building for several hours around the time of the murders. It is the opinion of LE that the killer parked at the CPS building while he committed his crimes. There vehicle may have been a truck. A persistent yet unconfirmed rumor is that it was a white truck. However, Mr. X’s truck is orange. LE would like very much to speak for anyone who spotted that truck at the CPS building during that time to contact LE. If the truck can be linked to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible.
Mr. X does not have a good excuse for his phone pinging at the CPS building for hours. However, cellphone data is generally not admissible in court, and anyway, Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere and his phone just happened to be pinging at the CPS building looking for a signal, so this evidence cannot be used in court. However, it is suspicious to say the very least. If Mr. X’s truck was not there the whole time, it is possible that he left his phone at the building for several hours while he committed the crime. That way his phone could not be tracked to the crime scene.
Leaker says that Mr. X had an alibi, a friend of his. This friend says he saw Mr. X elsewhere in town around the time of the murders. LE was unable to break Mr. X’s alibi via his friend. It is considered to be a solid alibi in terms of taking the case to court. Unfortunately, this friend is has since died. This complicates the case immeasurably.
According to Leaker, the only DNA on the girls’ bodies is from Kelsi, Libby’s sister. Kelsi has been cleared. Mr. X’s DNA is in the area, but he was part of the search team that discovered the bodies, so it’s not usable. Assuming he did it, see how he contaminated the scene by finding the bodies?
Leaker also said that there were religious aspects to the murders. Although the exact nature of these aspects is unknown, a rumor that a crucifix was left at the site seems credible.
Leaker also said that the girls’ bodies were posed in a sexual tableau. This seems to be correct. More on that below.
A previous report said that the killer took photos or video of the crime and sent it to Abby’s phone after the murders. This is correct, and I have additional evidence that will prove this.
A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. According to Leaker, this is correct. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the “catfish” of a young man aged 19. Libby had gotten smitten with this young man and wanted to meet him. The catfish appears to have been the killer himself. Leaker says the second sketch is a sketch of the catfish photo that the killer used to lure Libby on Snapchat where she was catfished. One of Libby’s friends had seen a photo of the catfish, and her description of it is what the second sketch is based on.
At the start of this case, LE said “be careful of what your kids are doing on social media.” The usual idiots who have swarmed this case from Day One have insisted all this time that that means nothing. However, we have been reporting for some time on here that the girls may have been catfished via social media. In fact, we were ripped up pretty severely for promoting that theory. As with so many aspects of this case, a number of the “wild, outrageous, and offensive stories” we were reporting on here from the start are turning out to be true. It’s no surprise to me. I’m a professional journalist. I have a BA in Journalism. I worked as an assistant editor of a magazine. This is one of my professions.
According to Leaker, LE feels that Libby may have posted on Snapchat that she was going to the bridge that day. We reported in a previous post that the trip was not a last minute decision, and instead, adults were discussing it in local bars on Friday night. We have been saying all along that the killer must have known the girls were going to be there that day, and he came quite amply prepared to commit this specific crime. The crime may have been plotted for four months prior to carrying it out. You can see how BG was loaded up with all that murder equipment. He’d obviously planned this out in advance.
Of course, we have been bashed for this too, and an absolutely insane theory that fails all logic tests that the killer came to the bridge that day looking to kill any victim that he might happen to spot there has been suggested in its stead. This theory fails so badly on logic alone that it’s amazing how much traction it got.
Too many people on this case seem to be afflicted with a disorder called Pathological Doubting Disorder. They have pathologically doubted everything and anything that anyone ever said about this crime. They beat their fists on the table endlessly that only verified information, not rumors, must be discussed. The problem here is that LE hasn’t told us a damned thing. If we were restricted to merely discussing what has been verified by LE, there’d be nothing to talk about. We’d all be sitting around talking about the weather instead.
Leaker also said that if the catfish can be connected to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible.
However, this will be hard to do. All attempts to find the killer’s IP addresses or texts or photos of the catfish on Snapchat have come up empty for whatever reason.
According to Leaker, Mr. X has completely cooperated with the investigation. At the time of the crime, Mr. X lived two miles from the crime scene.
Leaker also said that the crime was committed in a ravine that is hard to see from most angles. It may also be sheltered sound-wise too.
Leaker said there is more audio on Libby’s phone, but it is so garbled and hard to hear that LE did not feel it would be useful to the general public. However, Leaker said that LE cleaned the audio up and transcribed it as best as they could. BG accosted the girls and appears to have pulled his gun on them.
In brand new information, apparently one of the trail cams at the south end of the bridge where the abduction took place had been disabled. LE feels it was disabled prior to the crime. So BG came to the south end of the bridge before the crime occurred and disabled the camera. Once again, we see forward planning for this crime.
According to Leaker, after BG accosted the girls, he said he was a police officer and they were trespassing on private property (they were not). He said he had spotted them with his binoculars and had come to arrest them. I can now confirm that BG did have binoculars. BG then handcuffed the girls and said, “Down the hill.” The girls pleaded with him to let them go, that they are sorry and they won’t do it again, etc. but he told them they are under arrest.
Jesus Christ, this case is sad! Just thinking about that scenario with those girls pleading to be let go breaks my heart!
At the bottom of the hill, Libby’s shoe was found by searchers. To me this implies that she tried to run. How else does she lose her shoe?
What follows, according to the families of the girls who LE played the tape for, is six minutes of garbled conversation in which the girls and BG are talking as they walk through the woods, the sound of the forest floor crunching beneath their feet. At the six minute mark, BG and the girls can be heard starting to cross the creek, so the girls were definitely walked across the creek. This has been an odd source of contention. At that point, LE shut off the tape.
Leaker says that the audio continues after the girls crossed the creek and were marched to the kill zone, which appears to have been selected and prepared beforehand due to its visual and auditory seclusion. Next you hear a loud scream followed by a loud thump. This is apparently poor Abby screaming. The thump sound is thought to be BG hitting her over the head with a blunt object. We believe he hit her with the butt end of the handgun you can see in his right hand pocket of his jacket on the BG video. Abby may well have been knocked out cold by this blow.
Leaker concurred that Libby died via a deep knife wound to the throat. He also said that the murder weapon was a hunting knife.
I Was Able to Obtain Official Document(s) Relating to the Case!
And now I can release brand new information! I was able to obtain anywhere from 1-10 documents from the investigation. I am making the claim vague in this way because I have to protect the person I got this data from. They very much do not want it getting out that they were given these document(s). So I have to cover my tracks pretty well here because I don’t want to reveal my sources.
I’m an educated and trained journalist. One of the things we learned in J-school is that you have to protect your sources and value their confidentiality at all costs. We are supposed to go to jail instead of revealing our sources, and some of us have.
Therefore it is disconcerting to see constant accusations of me making up rumors or theories about this crime out of whole cloth. I can’t do that. That’s a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I’m an ethical journalist. I’m not talking about beating around the bushes of masking facts and truths as I did above with the documents statement. Journalists have lost their careers over doing that, and good luck getting hired again afterwards. It’s as bad as scientific misconduct is for a scientist.
Obviously I’ve been dying to get a hold of official documents about this case for four years now. We did briefly have contacts with a few LE sources, but they didn’t tell us a lot. We had maybe one LE source every two years on this case. So we don’t have any “special sources” about this case as my critics claim. What special sources? What are they talking about?
I assure you that it’s completely legal for the possessor of these document(s) to possess them. That’s all I’m going to say about that.
The document(s) came to me from the owner who lawfully possessed them..
The document(s) came from either LE or from the judicial system or possibly both at the same time. They are signed by official(s).
I was able to learn a number of things about this case from these document(s), some that have been released before, but others that have never been released or even rumored anywhere. I am absolutely certain of the truth of everything I write below based on my belief that these document(s) are authentic.
BG discharged a gun in the course of this crime. Perhaps the most amazing information of all is that this was a gun crime! The gun used was no doubt the one that can be seen in the right jacked pocket of BG. It’s a handgun. After the “guys” in the video, he apparently pulled his gun out and pointed it at the girls. He controlled them with the gun. We have assumed that from the very start of this case. But we never had any idea that a gun was fired during this crime!
We don’t know how the gun was used. We only know that it was discharged. Where, how, and why we don’t know. However, spent cartridges were found by LE, who says they were fired by BG. Did he fire them into the girls’ dead bodies? No idea. How does LE they know that the spent cartridges they found were fired by BG? No idea. But they do have spent cartridges from this crime and they are trying to find the gun used to fire them in order to do ballistics tests on it.
Leaker said that BG had binoculars. He told the girls when he accosted them that he had spotted them trespassing through his binoculars and he decided to come and arrest them. I can now verify Leaker’s statement because the document mentions binoculars. LE is looking for binoculars that were used in the crime.
There is more shocking information that was touched on earlier. I mentioned above that there was a rumor that BG had taken photos and video and had sent them to Abby’s phone after the crime. This rumor was affirmed by Leaker. However, I can now prove this is true because LE is looking for photos, videos, film, cameras, and/or videocameras. Any of those. Video were recorded by BG as he committed this crime. So he videotaped his crime as he committed it. Some people say they can see a Go Pro on BG’s person. We are uncertain about this.
Now how could LE possibly know that BG took video of his crime as he committed it? They can’t. But if he sent some of this video to Abby’s phone after the crime took place, then they know he shot video of the crime. Therefore the rumor that BG sent photos of the crime to Abby’s phone seems to be true.
In addition, the document says that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of the crime. No doubt this goes with the video that was shot, the video being of unknown length. We know this because in the documents, LE says they are looking for 43 seconds of audio.
LE is also looking for knives, presumably hunting knives as Leaker averred. The murder weapon in the case was a knife. This was not a gun crime in that a gun was not the murder weapon. That’s not to say the gun was not discharged into the victim(s) after they were deceased. Perhaps it was. We have no idea. But if that was the case, then this is still not a gun crime as the gun was not a homicide weapon. Then all BG is guilty of regarding shooting the gun would be mutilating a corpse.
LE is also looking for blood-soaked clothing. LE feels that this crime was so brutal (in particular the killing of Libby) that BG must have been covered in blood after he murdered that poor girl. The blood spray from such an attack would be serious. So LE is looking for the clothing he wore that day with bloodstains “seen and unseen.” I don’t understand the part about unseen bloodstains, but apparently when you get blood on your clothes, not all of it is visible and some can only be seen with special tools. Ever watched crime shows where they put a chemical on the crime scene that shows bloodstains as bright purple? I suppose they use that to uncover those unseen bloodstains.
Perhaps the most incredible fact in the document is LE stating that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Why is this important? On what day did this crime occur? On February 13, or 2-13. 2:13 and 2/13. Matches up, get it? Let’s play with this a bit more. He abducted and murdered 2 girls, one of whom was 13 years old. 2-13 again. 2:13, 2/13, and 2-13.
A physician friend of mine who might as well be Dr. Spock, such is his dedication to pure logic, has cast doubt on this connection. He immediately stated, “Coincidence!” (natch) when I told him about the two 2-13’s lining up perfectly.
However, LE thinks these two 2-13’s lining up perfectly was a significant enough event to be mentioned in their documents about the case. So LE thinks that fact that BG abducted those girls at precisely 2:13 in the afternoon is no coincidence.
This is all I have from these document(s). Make of it what you will. Keep in mind that these document(s) went through different people before the came to me.
Owner -> Professional -> Fellow sleuther -> Me.
There are two people between the owner and me. What do I have? I have a photocopy of the document. Could it be faked or forged? Maybe, but the professional would not do something like that. He’s as bound by his professional ethics as I am with mine.
Crime Scene Photos
I was also able to obtain some good crime scene photos for the first time. These have been out for six months now, having first appeared on Youtube in a video. They are from the same media helicopter footage as the crime scene photos we previously released here. They were presumably taken from the part of the footage where you can see many flashes going off in a circle around a location in the woods. Obviously CSI guys photographing the crime scene. These photos have been blown up and enhanced to Hell and back by everyone and their uncle. However, the photos I will discuss today are from this video.
The author is a theoretical physicist. Not that that means much, as kooks roam all fields, and kookery doesn’t discriminate, but I do think that adds weight to his analysis. Talk about logicians. We are talking about field like math where everything you say has to be backed up by formal proof. A fasifiability is a thing, and “not even wrong” is on the tip of everyone’s tongue.
The author claims a number of startling things in this video.
Outlines of the bodies of the two victims. I’ll vouch for that one.
A crucifix. Don’t see it.
A gigantic stuffed animal. No way. I can’t believe how many people believe this. Let’s not even get into the crazy discussion of this stupid stuffed animal and the dolls. That said, many things are possible in true crime, and this is one of them. I’m just not seeing it though. Extraordinary claims and extraordinary evidence and all that. God I hate that phrase but there’s a time and place for all things.
Dolls scattered around the scene. Nigga please.
An abandoned bleach bottle. Gong!
Abandoned clothing, in particular a girl’s top. Nah.
Weird messages scrawled all over the scene. I concur that one may be possible, but the rest I can’t see at all.
CSI guys wandering the scene. Nothing but blurs.
Keep in mind that for the above to be true, BG must have constructed this entire Disney World Crime Scene in a mere 45 minutes! Either he has superhuman powers or it didn’t happen. Occam’s forces me to choose the latter. How did he get all these animals and dolls down the crime scene? Come on. This crime’s weird enough as it is without taking things to outright science fiction.
Keep in mind that a lot of people claim they can’t see a damned thing in these photos, including the victims’ bodies, or that they were looking at pixels and graphics software playing games with us. Pareidolia. I hate that word, favorite of scientistic skeptards. But time and place, etc. Even the most abused notions have a proper application.
Leaker said that the girls were “posed in a sexual tableau.” That’s interesting except no one knows what it means.
John Kelly, retired FBI profiler who does excellent work and now makes his living being a media figure, felt in this recent video that the sexual tableau referred to the girls being posed in some sort of a lesbian sex act. He also suggested that BG had a deep obsession with lesbian pornography and that people around him would be aware of this. Assuming the photos below are valid interpretations, the girls are not posed in any obvious lesbian sex act. Perhaps they are posed in a milder, less than obvious one. As you can see, Abby’s hand is close to a “certain part” of Libby’s body. Whether that counts or not I have no idea.
However, assuming the images below are correct, both girls’ legs were spread very wide after they were killed. Libby was nude and Abby was nude from the waist down. That counts as sexual tableau. He did this to humiliate the girls after their deaths. One last Parthian Thrust before he walked away into the woods history. This is the posing part.
I agree with Kelly who says that killers who pose victims (“posers”) are some of the worst ones of all. They’re dark as Hell and they’re at the far end of the psychopathic spectrum. He also said that if he’s a poser, he should have killed again by now because these guys can’t control themselves, a reflection of their extreme pathology. He said that the only reason he hasn’t killed by now is because he’s afraid. Afraid that they’re onto him. Afraid of getting caught. Afraid of that one last knock on the door before the jail bars clang shut.
I have more to say about this crime as usual, but I’ve gone on long enough. More later.
I would like to apologize for the fact that these photos are very small. See if you can enlarge them. I don’t know how to fix this right now.
This term has been grotesquely abused lately, starting with feminists, who equate all prostitution with “trafficking” and then the federal government, which passed a rather silly law 5-10 years against “sex trafficking.” Increasingly what you are seeing in the media is a complete conflation of prostitution and “sex trafficking.”
In particular, anyone pimping minor females is said to be “trafficking” no matter whether there is any coercion at all. Trafficking was originally supposed to mean women who were being essentially enslaved, kept prisoner, held against their will, and forced to prostitute themselves for others. Basically sex slaves. There are a lot of forms of this coerced and imprisoned sort of prostitution in the world, and it is an ugly thing to be sure!
But that silly federal law conflated that with any prostitution of minors. So “sex trafficking” is not just sex slavery but it’s also prostituting of minors. Which seems a bit silly. How are minors being “trafficked” if they are not being held against their will? It’s ridiculous. The crime should be something like Prostituting a Minor, along those lines. Perhaps that’s a serious offense, I have no idea. But it sure isn’t “trafficking.”
Increasingly I have seen articles, many coming out of Texas, about big roundups of “sex traffickers.” They were rounding up 50-60 men at once and the guys looked pretty ordinary. That’s an awful lot of “traffickers” to round up at once. When they do round these guys up, they usually only catch a few at a time as they are hard to catch and not particularly common anyway. So I did some research. It turned out that of those 60 men, only one of them actually trafficked in prostitutes, and even he was just prostituting minors. I have no idea if coercion or imprisonment was involved. The other 59 men were guilty of…get this: buying a teenage prostitute!
Look I’m not saying that buying an underage prostitute should be legal. But you should have to prove that he knew that she was underage or by her appearance, she could not possibly have been 18. The bizarre thing about these laws is that in many states, it is perfectly legal for any adult man to have sex with a 16-17 year old girl as long as he does it for free and doesn’t pay her. The minute he gives her some money for her treasures, it’s a crime!
Even knowingly buying an underage prostitute is not “trafficking” in any way, shape, or form. It’s a crime called “Buying a Minor Prostitute.” How in the Hell is buying a whore “trafficking?” It’s absurd.
To tell the truth, many prostitutes with pimps may be being trafficked. That’s because many pimps won’t let the girls in their stables free. They threaten to hunt them down, beat them up, or kill them if they run away from the pimp. Any prostitute in a situation like that with her pimp is indeed being trafficked.
Now buying a teenage prostitute is an odd crime. Minors are not allowed to legally prostitute themselves, but many do it anyway. And 50% of minor female prostitutes are Black. Blacks are only 13% of the population. So there’s massive over-representation of Black teenage girls in minor prostitution. Quite a few of those girls probably have psychopathic tendencies too, or will develop into psychopaths when they are adults because we are not supposed to diagnose psychopathy or any other personality disorder in minors. Fully 45% of adult female prostitutes are psychopaths. Newsflash: whores aren’t very nice women. They not even very nice people.
A lot of them are simply criminals and ripoffs and all sorts of petty thievery and female prostitution go hand and hand. In my opinion, a prostitute and a thief are the same thing. This is what the female psychopath becomes: Histrionic Personality Disorder, the “Mata Hari” or “femme fatale” disorder. Basically what I would call a thieving whore. Many female strippers, porn stars and other sex workers are also female psychopaths or have high scores on the PCL.
Many male porn stars are the same. This was observed as far back as the 1970’s and 80’s. If you look at those old porn movies, look at how mean and evil so many of those male porn stars are. And look at how crass, loud, brassy, and cold the women are. That’s the typical whore personality: hard, cold, brassy, callous, cynical. It looks like a damaged woman. Their emotions look shut down and they’ve gone hard.
Rape: Non-consensual sex generally involving force, the threat of force, gross deception like pretending to be another person, or drugging the victim. Everything else is gray rape and most DA’s won’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. Realistically, if she is protesting and telling you to stop and you are forcing yourself on her, it’s rape whether a DA will take it or not.
Coercion is an odd word. Anyone can coerce anyone into doing anything legal. People have been coercing me all my life. It’s not very nice, but it’s hardly rape as long as she ends up willing. It’s important to limit our definition of rape because even stranger rape is rarely prosecuted.
Almost no one ever goes down on sex with an intoxicated woman, no matter what she is intoxicated on. The feminist line that intoxicated women can never consent to sex is odd.
By this logic, intoxicated men can never consent either. Conceivably, a sober woman having sex with an intoxicated man is guilty or rape!
By the same token, an intoxicated man and an intoxicated woman are guilty of raping each other! Except of course only the man will conceivably ever go down on it.
And what of alcoholic women and women are drug addicts? Apparently every single time they have sex with anyone, they’re being raped!
Also, no one even knows what intoxicated means? At what point is someone drunk enough to not consent? Who knows!
What about other drugs – heroin, cocaine, cannabis, hallucinogens? At what point is one so intoxicated on this or that drug that they cannot consent? No one knows!
Obviously this law is ridiculously vague. All vague laws are unconstitutional and illegal because no one knows whether they are breaking them or not.
As usual, the intoxication is rape argument makes absolutely no sense, like almost everything feminists say ever. Which is a good reason to abandon feminism. It’s nothing but lies!
If you wish to know, DA’s will only prosecute on intoxicated sex as rape if she is passed out cold or passing in and out of consciousness. And even then, some video evidence might be nice. Case in point: the Steubenville boys. If she’s passed out, leave her alone! What are you, a necrophile? If she’s passing in and out of consciousness, forget it. She’s too wasted to enjoy it and half the time, you’ll be having sex with a corpse. In which case, what the Hell is wrong with you?
Logically speaking, you can coerce anyone into sex legally. If you make a condition of a job, it’s not illegal then either, but you can be sued as it’s a civil offense. As I said, anyone can coerce anyone into doing anything legal as long as there is no force or threat of force involved. If by the time she’s in bed, she’s awake and enthusiastic, it’s not important how you got her there unless you used force or the threat of force.
All affirmative consent laws are insane and stupid because no man has ever gone down on failing to read a woman’s mind properly. But if she looks terrified and unenthusiastic in bed as if you are forcing her to do something you don’t want to do, I don’t know pal, but that sounds awful rapey to me. It may be legal but that doesn’t mean it’s right.
Statutory rape (illegal intercourse): Of course teenage girls can consent, but in a legal sense we say some cannot with certain different-aged partners for various reasons, mostly that society finds the idea of adults having sex with teens of certain ages to be unsavory. Where it is consensual, the harm is almost zero.
Nevertheless, men should be advised that these laws are enforced, and nowadays they put you in prison. It’s mostly a non-issue compared to the others here. AOC varies but tends to be ~15-16 in most of the world. In European countries with AOC’s at this level, problems are very rare. This isn’t even really rape. It’s better to call it “illegal intercourse.”
Child molestation: Any sex with an adult and a child under 13 is child molestation. It has to be sex. Backrubs and shoulder pats don’t count. There has to be some sort of genital contact. As I noted in a previous post, harm varies with the degree of coercion.
Feminists should wish to recover all victims of child molestation to live full lives instead of being victims. Child molestation is illegal and should never be allowed. Some kids actually like it believe it or not (I’ve met adult women who enjoyed being molested), but we still need to keep it illegal because we do not wish to live in a society where adults have sex with kids.
Child rape: Sadly it is important to separate child rape from child molestation. This is because feminists and moral scolds have taken to conflating all child molestation as “child rape.” They’re not the same thing. Yes, small children cannot consent to sex with adults but that doesn’t mean it’s rape when it happens. Instead we use the word molestation to refer to the fact that little kids can’t legally consent. There’s no need to muddy the waters here.
Child molestation is generally “consensual” psychologically. However it is not consensual legally because we say that kids can’t consent to sex with an adult. Almost all sex with kids is molestation, not rape. Child rape does exist and it is a severe crime. It often involves strangers, abductions, threats, weapons, and violence. It’s always non-consensual by definition. In some cases, the children are physically harmed or even killed.
The consequences can certainly be long-lasting, even affecting the victim over a lifetime. Nonetheless, women seem to be able to get over rape. I know a number of women who were raped and got over it fine. I’ve only met one woman raped as a child and she won’t discuss it. And yes, it was pretty bad. Two 11 year old girls raped at knifepoint. As bad as it gets.
Pedophilia: This is simply a sexual orientation like homosexuality that means the primary or sole attraction is to children under 13. Hebephilia (primary attraction to pubescents age 12-14) and ephebephilia (primary attraction to teenagers) are not included in pedophilia.
These men cannot help their condition and need to be helped to manage it so they do not offend. There are now organizations of virtuous pedophiles dedicated to pedophiles who have committed themselves to non-offending. Pedophilia cannot be combated or prevented because we have no idea what causes it. There’s no way to fight it because it simply exists.
You know the story where they say “Russia” hacked into all of this secret government websites? Got some news for you. It didn’t happen.
They’re lying through their teeth. The had no idea whatsoever who did it or if they did, they didn’t want to put the finger on them. It was an extremely sophisticated operation beyond the reach of many countries, granted. And it could only have been by a sophisticated country, grant it. But look at the evidence.
“It has all the hallmarks of a Russian operation.”
They keep saying this about everything that happens that they don’t understand. I guess “hallmarks of Russia” just means some sophisticated operation. They’ve never presented any evidence that Russia was behind any of these things they’ve accused it of. They just put the finger on them whenever they figure out who did something. They failed to present any evidence whatsoever of any Russian involvement in this attack. IT people who looked at the internals of the attack said it was sophisticated, but there was no evidence to pin on Russia.
So, Russia didn’t do it. Ok? Take my word on that. So who did it?
We have now figured out who seems to have done this massive spy operation. All roads in the investigation lead to…Israel! I don’t know the details right now but it has something to do with that Four Winds company and their software. The company is Israeli-owned. The software is written by Israelis. Whitney Webb has all the details, as usual. Check her out. She’s a “conspiracy theorist,” but every single thing she writes checks out.
I was talking to a very connected former Marine on the phone one time a while back. I have no idea why he talked to me. He seemed to know just about everything about everything, specializing in intelligence and especially military matters. I brought up Israeli influence in the US, and he said, “Yeah we got totally penetrated by them in the early 80’s, I think 1983, and we’ve never been able to get rid of them since.”
We have literally handed over the locks and keys to this country to Israel. They get whatever the Hell they want. We’ve given them backdoors to much of our state dealings. There are rumors that they spy and gather blackmail material on high up US government officials.
It’s particularly outrageous how we have handed over our spy network and security apparatus to these people. Homeland Security. You got it. I was stunned when I did research on Homeland Security. Almost all of their apparatus had been handed over to Israeli firms. Much of our internal spying apparatus in the US has been handed over to Israeli firms as has airport security, etc.
A lot of the training our rather brutal police forces has been done by Israel, which probably accounts for the brutality. The idea is that Homeland Security and the US state are using all of these apparatuses to spy on us and do security for us. But the nuts and bolts were outsourced to Israel. You don’t think they might be listening in?
I’d trust one of those people as far as I could throw them. They’re some of the least trustworthy people out there. I assume that Israel has simply taken over a lot of our internal security and spying operations. Phone network spying? Check, Israeli. Cell phone network? Check, Israeli. It seems Israel could have access to much of our phone communication. And why are they running our security apparatus, say at airports?
There are a lot of new surveillance mechanisms and apparatuses coming online. Scary stuff. Guess who’s in back of a lot of them? Yep. Israel.
It was Israel who penetrated all of those secret US sites and classified material. I don’t know why they bothered. They could have just asked and we probably would have handed it over. Israel’s been spying on us for a very long time now. My understanding is that the government is pretty well “penetrated” by Israeli spies. Further a number of American Jews in the US government have repeatedly been caught acting as de facto agents of Israel, in other words, agents of a foreign power. That’s illegal but no one persecutes them because Jews get to do whatever they want to in these stupid country.
Judeophilia, shekeling, or blackmail? Which is it?
I don’t get it. From the sound of it, Americans are just Judeophiles. Polls repeatedly show support for Israel around 50% and often a majority towards 60%. Doesn’t sound good but support for Palestinians is generally ~15% with not much upward trend.
Sure it seems like the US is simply a bunch of Jew-loving fools, fanatical Judeophiles. Well, fine, but that’s pretty stupid. Why don’t we hand the country over to Swedes or Vietnamese, or Hmong, or Cubans, or Japanese, or whoever. What are the Jews? Just another ethnic group; in other words, a tribe of humans. Tell me why they are so special?
To me they’re no more special than the Ingush, the Tigreans, the Karens, the Garifura, the Muong, the Naga, the Yakuts, the Han, the Basques, the Azeris, the Kyrgyz, the Akan, the Mapuche or name any nationality where the people are of a certain type. The Jews are just another pissant little petty tribe of humans that don’t want any special treatment positive of negative. Who cares about them. Sure, but why hand over the keys of the kingdom to this petty and fanatically ethnocentric tribe or ethnic group. What’s the point?
On the other hand, there might be the shekeling. Both political parties are shekeled to the hilt. Jewish money provides 60% of the funding for the Democrats and 30% for the Republicans. Presumably most politicians are taking money from AIPAC, the rightwing organization that encompasses most pro-Israeli organizations in the US.
Every now and then, every President and many Senators make a sojourn to the AIPAC convention to fall all over themselves with their love for the wonderful Jewish people and Israel. The fawning is almost suspect. Are they paid off with campaign contributtions? The fanatical love that US politicians even at the state level have for this shitty little country is hard to figure. There’s something weird about it. It doesn’t seem normal.
On the other hand, are they being blackmailed? The Epstein Affair was a Mossad honeypot operation using underage girls to get powerful US men in business and government on film having sex with underage girls. All of the men having sex with those underage girls were filmed by Epstein. He kept these in a safe.
The FBI reportedly confiscated many of these blackmail tapes. Suspiciously, absolutely nothing has come of it though no doubt there are tapes of many prominent men committing statutory rape or illegal intercourse with underage girls. Why won’t the FBI prosecute these men? What’s up with that? It’s been rumored for some time that Israel is in possession of a tape of Bill Clinton having sex with a 13 year old girl and they used this to blackmail him.
The Epstein operation has been proven to have been run by Mossad. Epstein was a Mossad asset. He was recruited in 1986 and he stayed an Israeli asset for the next 34 years. At some point, he started his blackmail operations. Ghislane Maxwell, his partner in crime, is absolutely a Mossad asset. Her father Robert Maxwell was an out and out Mossad spy. He was one of the richest men in the UK, ran a huge media network and was probably one of the worst men on Earth. A real scumbag. Spent his whole life lying, cheating, thieving, conspiring, sleazing out, backstabbing, and apparently blackmailing.
At some point he was apparently running the same blackmail operation for Israel that Epstein was running. These operations are called brownstones based on the fact that they used to be housed in brownstone buildings. The CIA has reportedly run brownstones with underage teenage girls, boys and possibly even prepubescent children (!!) all over the world for decades.
These are full of cameras and the CIA uses these houses to get powerful men on tape having sex with underage people, hence they are blackmailed by the CIA. Oh, and the CIA runs the US media more or less. The whole US media works closely with the CIA. Look up Operation Mockingbird. So these blackmail tapes can be suddenly leaked to the media should any of the blackmailees prove disobedient to the CIA. A lot of powerful men are being blackmailed this way.
Reportedly, somebody is in possession of a tape of Lindsay Graham having sex with an underage teenage boy and somebody is using this to blackmail him. This might explain his sudden 180 degree flips on various political matters and his wanton worship of some politicians, notably Trump this last time around.
This is a long-awaited update to the Delphi Murders case. You wonder why I have not published, but it was due to how I was treated. I was reported to the police probably 40 times for being the murderer or for being a “pedophile” (I wasn’t aware that being a pedophile was against the law). I was reported to the IRS 20 times. I was interviewed by a detective as a suspect in the murders. Too bad I hadn’t left California in 3 1/2 years!
I wrote a lot about sexual aspects of the case and this got turned into an idea that I was writing about my sexual fantasies of raping and murdering teenage girls! None of these things other than being the killer would mean anything even if it were true. After all, it’s actions not thoughts that count in this world. But if it makes you feel better, there’s nothing to any of it. I received more death threats than I can count.
Getting down to lesser complaints, it was said that I deliberately made up lies about this case out of whole cloth in order to get more hits! It was said that I was ripping people off by charging for the forum but if you knew the time I put in, I doubt if I made minimum wage.
At first it was free, but we had to get rid of that. See all those posting restrictions on public forums. We were trying to avoid that. We started charging $10 to get in, but we had spies and enemies paying the $10 and then taking our private material out of the group and posting. We went up to $20 to keep spies and enemies out. It worked.
The site’s not monetized so that doesn’t matter, but I have a BA in Journalism and have worked in the field. If there’s one thing that will kill your career, it’s that, and my records clean after decades of published journalism. We charge money for a private forum that met to investigate the crime. There was a tremendous amount of information about the crime there – in fact, it was one of the largest databases for materials about this case around.
We made it private because we were talking about real people as suspects and doxxing people. I’m not sure if there’s a legal liability there, but we were trying to avoid that. It was also done to protect the privacy of our members. Contrary to rumor, we never listed anyone’s name as a suspect for the crime. We did bring up some names but mostly to say that they were cleared or they were not involved. Their names were brought up because they were being passed around.
Some of these people have made it a mission to hunt me down and do unknown threatening things to me. I never realized that pointing out someone was innocent was deserving an ass-beating! We did have one suspect that we were looking at for a long time, but we never published his name one time on this site nor did I publish it anywhere on the Net.
I have never published the names of people we were investigating on the site or anywhere else. Some people got mad because we were looking at them, but don’t worry. We investigated everyone and their brother for this crime. Not many people were off-limits. And of course we looked at family members.
Another rumor says the families hate me. I wouldn’t care if it was true but I do have a good relationship with one of the three parents.
We never had an “secret, special, inside or otherwise sources.” We listed anonymous sources a lot because that’s what we do in journalism! The anonymous sources somehow drove people into a frenzy.
Law enforcement worked with some of us a little bit, but not much. They requested some material from us and we gave it to them. A local sheriff’s deputy was one of the most active members of our group. It was and is extremely difficult for us to get law enforcement (LE) sources, but now and then, we get lucky.
It somehow got out that we had a prime suspect in this case. It was more like my prime suspect. He’s done a number of very suspicious things in relation to this crime, including recording numerous videos inferring that he killed the girls. A lot of his other behavior was suspicious too. Turns out we now feel that he was a dead end and he’s not implicated in the crime.
He’s still a lousy person and he threatened to murder me many times. But he didn’t kill those girls and that’s all that counts. Contrary to rumor, his name was never published one time on this site or anywhere else on the Net. I’d apologize to him but he sent me too many death threats to bother with that and he’s a scumbag anyway. A scumbag? Sure. A homicidal scumbag? Guess not.
Anyway, we recommend that people turn their attention away from this man.
He’s just one of many, of course. There have already been several false confessions in the crime already.
We do have a lot of new information that I have never seen published anywhere but some of the Facebook groups seem to have been privy to some of this data. Anyway, the rest of the world has never heard of it, so here goes.
The motive for the crime has been revealed:
For a long time there was much controversy about whether there was a sexual assault in this crime. I always thought there was because any time a man murders two teenage girl strangers in this fashion, there’s almost always a sexual component, rape, torture, sexual sadism. The rape and torture are motivated by the sexual sadism.
Anyway, the motive for the crime was the rape of Abbie Williams. I will sit back and let that settle for a bit. I don’t have any specifics on what exactly he did to her sexually, but the sex act was definitely consummated, let’s put it that way. I’m not sure if she was raped while alive or dead. That’s unclear.
Both girls appear to have been bound with ropes behind their backs.We know this because Libby German’s fingernails were covered with bruises and dirt. That means she was digging her fingers into the ground behind her back while being assaulted.
Libby German had numerous defensive wounds on her hands and arms. It appears she put up quite a bit of a fight.
The girls were controlled with a gun. You can see the gun clearly in his right jacket pocket. I can’t believe people still think it’s a rumor. A fifth grader could have figured that out. He pulled the gun on them and controlled them with it.
The video of UNSUB (the suspect) was taken by Libby’s cellphone. There were also trail cams active at the time. We do not know what photos, if any, were captured there. The murders themselves may even have been recorded by trail cams, but this is uncertain. An audio of the murders may also have been recorded on Libby’s phone. This is uncertain. Obviously this material cannot be released. The reason only the small snippet of voice recording has been released is that that is all there is. There is a lot of other recording from the phone, but it is all muffled and inaudible.
The girls were both definitely marched across the creek by UNSUB.
The pack around UNSUB’s lap is as we said forever a deer kit. Deer kits contain ~5 different knives that are used to cut up a deer carcass after you kill it. This is a bit disturbing because it implies that he may have seen the girls were like wild animals that get hunted legally every year. We do not know if that is a go-pro on his forehead, and we also do not know if the crime was recorded.
But we are now 100% certain that UNSUB brought his own camera or whatever sort to the crime, and he used to it take pictures at the crime scene.
We are also now certain that Abbie also had a phone during the crime. Her phone also played a role in the crime.
Abbie was raped, correct, and the sex act was completed, that is, UNSUB ejaculated. I don’t have any further details than that nor do I know the nature of the sex acts. Hence, police absolutely have DNA because they have sperm cells from UNSUB’s semen. In addition, they have epithelial cells from UNSUB’s skin. The samples match.
There are reports that the crime occurred over an extended space. Supposedly the “crime scene” starts at the Robinson family’s backyard near the dump spot and extends 1,000 yards to the dump site. We don’t know what that means. Maybe it means he was chasing them as they were running away from him and he was attacking them while they ran. But we still don’t know if this rumor is even true.
It is still not known that the girls were killed at the dump site or that they were murdered on the day they disappeared at all. There are continuing rumors that they were removed from the scene and taken to a barn (apparently the Mears’ barn) where they were kept for some time and then returned to the crime scene, dead.
The Mears barn was prominent in one of our theories for a while and it is interesting that it is coming back.
We had an investigator at the barn and he talked to the owners. He mentioned a rumor that the girls were murdered in the barn and he said that their faces both went hard, cold, and pale. They said nothing. He considered that an ominous sign. Also we did discover a small flower set in the barn that looks like the sort of flowered memorials that are left at death sites along highways.In addition, the barn was absolutely searched by cadaver dogs during the search of Lucas’ property.
The rest of his property was also searched by the cadaver dogs. We don’t know what they found. Keep in mind that none of this means that the barn was used in the killings, but it is only interesting that this old theory we thought was dead and buried has experienced a recrudescence. There is a problem with the barn information at the moment, in that it is all coming from a single source, and some people think she is trying to misdirect theories about the crime. Everything about a barn or that barn is completely speculation at this point.
For the moment, we assume that the girls were killed at the scene. Indeed, reports said, “It was all over in 40 minutes.” That means that they were dead by 3 PM. UNSUB was seen hiking away from the crime scene at 3:15 PM. So you can see, there is also evidence that they were killed at the scene. Arguing against that once again are reports that the site was searched more than once the night before.
In addition, Ron Logan described the crime scene as “pristine.” I assume that this is when the police left, but how many homicide sites are “pristine?” It seems a bit odd. Once again, we have no evidence that they were killed away from the dump site and the theory that they were killed at the site remains the best one.
If they were killed in the barn then they would have been returned to the dump site later, probably in the middle of the night. Investigators discovered the dump site by following two sets of footprints downhill from the graveyard to the crime scene. This descending pair of footprints is not explained and it hard to figure a theory for why they are there.
We now have repeated statements that the dump site was absolutely searched during the searches the night before. There were no girls there when they searched. Of course, maybe the girls were there, and searchers were mistaken that they searched the site.
The crime scene was absolutely disturbed. At least two and possibly more searchers touched the bodies. Two searchers tried to revive the girls by mouth to mouth resuscitation. This seems odd if we were dealing with 21 hour cold corpses. Anyway this has contaminated the crime scene.
There is no evidence that police botched the investigation in any way. Everyone is saying that because that’s what people say when a killer cannot be found. But quite a few killers are very hard to catch even by the best police and a large number are never caught and die with their secrets. A homicide case open for three years or even a cold case is not evidence of a botched investigation. Botched investigations are not common in the US.
As I said, the murder weapons were knives as we knew from the start. Libby had her throat cut so badly that she was nearly beheaded.There was a scarf tied around her neck at the funeral to hide this wound. People have attacked this story endlessly, but it is fact. For one thing, I spoke to Libby’s mother and she verified the wound to me and in tears told me that she was the one who tied the scarf around her neck to hide the wound.
The story that Libby was wearing a scarf at the funeral has also been attacked with attendees saying they never saw a scarf on either girl. However, we are in possession of a photograph of Libby’s funeral. In the photo, you can see her casket and you can make out Libby inside of it. Indeed she has a scarf tied around her neck. We have decided not to release this photo. I assume all of this stuff will come out at some time or another as old crime scene photos of all sorts tend to make their way onto the Net after a decade or two.
There is also a strong rumor that Libby was attacked with a gut knife. A gut knife is included in a deer kit. It is used to for gutting a deer. Libby was stabbed in her abdomen to such an extent that her intestines were protruding from her body. This leads to the horrifying implication that he gutted her body as if it was a dead deer. One wonders if UNSUB is a deer hunter? Additional evidence supporting the story of Libby being gutted in this way is in the form of several reports of detectives in hardware stores a week or two after the crime, asking if anyone had bought a gut knife recently.
There are continuing rumors that the crime scene was staged and that UNSUB left a signature or particular style that was his own at the scene. We reported earlier that UNSUB had stabbed the girls with sticks and branches. Sticks and branches were shoved into both girls’ vaginas and anuses. In addition, Abbie was impaled with a large branch which was plunged into her body right below her solar plexis. The cause of death of Abbie continues to be a single knife wound to the heart.
We heard this rumor first when someone in the community had crime scene photos and published them to his blog the evening of the crime. He thought the killing was some sort of a Satanic ritual and he was the first source about the story of sticks and branches being shoved into the girls’ bodies. We talked about a possible Satanic theme to the crime in early blog posts and were ripped to pieces over it. The reason we wondered about that was due to this young man’s crime scene photos and his description of them.
This rumor was later verified by the wife of a detective. He could not sleep at night and finally broke down and told his wife about the murders. She also stated that sticks and branches were shoved into the girls’ bodies.
Now we have a third source, a detective from a different branch of LE. This confirms once again the story about sticks and branches being shoved into the girls’ bodies. So we now have three sources for that story.
However, there is no evidence for the Satanic nature of the crime. This was only theorized early on due to the bizarre things that were done to the girls’ bodies. Both bodies were staged and posed.
UNSUB may have used some sort of bleach to kill DNA at the crime scene. In the photo, UNSUB has a bottle of something in his left pocket. We could never figure out what it is but it seems to be toilet cleaner. This consists of a lot of bleach. Some substance containing bleach, possibly toilet cleaner, may have been thrown onto the body of at least one of the girls. It was tossed onto her the area of her genitalia and lower abdomen. We don’t know which girl he threw this stuff on.
Abbie was nude below the waist and Libby was completely nude so the killer disrobed the girls.
We published rumors that one of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. We have been ripped to pieces over this story probably more than any other. However, we recently were able to verify the story via a sheriff’s deputy in a neighboring county. He said that the autopsy revealed that one of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. We are not going to reveal which girl was said to be pregnant but maybe we will later. So we now have many unverified and one excellent verified source for this story.
Perhaps the strangest of the new evidence is that Abbie and the murderer had known each other for 3-4 months before the crime. So she knew her killer and he knew her. He apparently met her on social media. A social media link was reported by police early on. Since he was on her social media, he absolutely knew that both girls were on the trails that day.
There are stories that the journey to the bridge was a last minute decision but we now have information that it had been planned since at least the previous Friday. We have a report that people were discussing Abbie and Libby’s upcoming trip to the bridge at a local bar on Friday night. And there seems to have been continuing discussion over the weekend.
As you can see, the killer was very prepared. He knew exactly where the girls would be and at what time. The idea of a random serial killing is nonsense. The killer has no DNA match in the many databases in the Rust Belt that were searched. But LE may have been able to identify the killer by DNA in some other way.
There is now a story that the killer took photos of the presumably dead girls at the crime scene. Photos of the dead girls from the crime scene were sent to Abbie’s phone after the murders, possibly on the evening of the crime.
This killer seems to be using cellphones and social media. And we can’t find him? Color me confused.
Police may or may not have a particular suspect that they are looking at. We are getting conflicting stories on that. But if they do have a suspect, the killer may be a local. There is also a rumor that the killer may have a close relationship with the girls’ families. This means someone either in the extended families or in their extended friends group. Keep in mind that this not yet v verified. However, a familiar name from early in the investigation of someone in and around the extended families has been mentioned. I do not know if LE actually considers this man to be a suspect.
There are persistent rumors that LE may have a suspect, but simply do not have enough on them to file. We received this information for the first time from an LE officer who works for the Presidential Secret Service, the branch that protests Presidents, their families, and even Presidential candidates. We received this story about one month after the crime.
The implication is that LE have a lot of evidence, but problems with the case have made it difficult to file against any possible murderer. This is presumably making the DA balk at filing charges as DA’s will not take a homicide case to court unless they think they are pretty sure that they can win it.
LE investigated many suspects. They also looked very hard at a family angle.
A well-known and prominent member of one of the families was kept under surveillance by a detective for nine months after the crime.The detective even followed this person when they went on a vacation with their families a considerable distance away. The surveillance ended after 10 months. We don’t know why this person was being investigated and tailed, but apparently LE thought they might have had something to do with the crime. This person is no longer under investigation and LE don’t think he was involved.
Doses were pretty strong back in the day. The stuff around nowadays, if you can even find it, is pretty weak. It comes on blotter paper with some goofy caricature on it and it’s usually around 50 micrograms. Sure, you get a trip, but you get a much heavier trip when you start upping the dose up to 100 micrograms.
LSD back then used to range from 250-500 micrograms. The famous Orange Sunshine LSD had 500 micrograms per pill. I took 125 micrograms one time, and that was plenty enough, thank you very much. I think I did take 250 micrograms once. That was one Hell of a trip, man.
Orange Sunshine was all manufactured by Timothy Leary’s group in Laguna Beach called The Brotherhood of Eternal Love, situated mostly in Laguna Canyon. My friends used to go down there and they said there would be these hippie guys sitting way up high in the eucalyptus trees. They were lookouts. The Brotherhood distributed millions of tabs of that variety of LSD, and they made a ton of money off of it.
Most LSD around this time was being manufactured by a man named Owlsley. I don’t think they ever caught him. I saw a documentary on TV about LSD in 1990.
The DEA agent said 90% of the LSD in the whole world comes out of the US, and almost all of that comes out of the Bay Area around San Francisco, California, where a few very secretive manufacturers make it. The DEA at the time had found it almost impossible to bust these manufacturers and there had not been a big bust in many years. Probably hard to get a good informant to work with you on a case like that in that part of California either, as anybody who knew anything about it was very secretive, a sort of a hidden hippie drug manufacturer underground.
LSD is quite difficult to manufacture and you almost need a Chemistry degree to make even one batch. I’m told that making it is pretty crazy because when you do, the stuff gets all over you, and you end up ingesting the stuff the whole time you’re making it. So you’re frying the whole time you make a batch, a process that could last a month or so. I don’t think I could handle a month-long trip. An 8-hour trip was bad enough.
There’s Actual Reality, which we don’t see a lot of, but at least when we do, we know it’s real, or we think we do.
And then there’s the Fake Reality created by the Deep State and the West with the connivance of the media where things happened that never occurred, things that happened never did, where things that happened in one way actually happened in another, where the people who did things are not the real people who did them but patsies instead, where there are fake guilty parties for fake events for fake victims killed by fake substances they were never exposed to.
Where there are calls for trial and punishment of people who were framed for things they did not do, where victims are directed to the wrong perpetrators and urged to attack them, where public opinion is stirred and aroused by what boils down to a pile of fakery.
Or a Hollywood movie. Or a book. Or a TV show. The stuff that happens there isn’t real. The Deep State, the media and the West create a fake reality that is like a movie or a book, a fictional reality, and they overlay it on top of actually existing reality, so we think the movie or book or fictional world is the real thing.
What this boils down is that they are making it so we can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality, lies and truth, reality and unreality, existence and nonexistence, guilt and innocence, dreams and waking reality. What you end up with is a human that is a bundle of wild confusion that barely knows its ass from a hole in the ground because they’ve been brainwashed so thoroughly.
This is an easy object to mold for all sorts of other nefarious projects where you can pump new lies into these subject’s heads and get them aroused and agitated about new fictional worlds, while pointing at the real world, saying it’s not real, and saying that everyone who figures out that the real world is real is a mentally ill conspiracy theorist. This has the disturbing effect of labeling anyone who can tell reality from fiction as mentally ill, paranoid, and deranged. The only way to be sane is to say fiction is reality and reality is fiction. In other words, the only way to be “sane” in such a world is to be crazy!
And if you try to “go sane” and get away from the mass psychosis you are thrown into, you get the ultimate gaslighting, reputation and career destruction, ridicule, etc.
This is truly a world turned upside down. It’s Wonderland. A whole lot of stuff out there you think is real isn’t even there at all. And a whole lot of stuff you laugh and say isn’t out there is sitting right in front of your nose.
It’s the creation of mass mental disorder, delusion, and psychosis on the level of hundreds of millions of people at once, all with the same symptoms, and then giving militaries mass weaponry to blow things up and kill lots of people based on what are psychotic delusions. So hundreds of thousands of people die because hundreds of millions of people in the West are delusional and threw bombs at these people when they were in the midst of a full blown psychosis.
The West ends up being, in effect, not just mentally ill but dangerously mentally ill. Or criminally mentally ill. Those are the most disturbed criminals of all. In California they go to Atascadero. Whole societies are dangerously and criminally mentally ill and attack hundreds of thousands of innocent people due to crazy ideas in their heads. Most of the West ends up deserving to be locked away for life in Atascadero with John Hinkley, Arthur Brenner, and the rest of the crazy maniacs.
Rambo: I wonder what percentage of these murders are in some way drug-related? I’ve never seen actual numbers but would have to guess those numbers would be pretty high. It just seems that in so many of these cases drugs were at least the “chain of events” starter that led to alot of these murders; an ever present link in the chai
RL: Most of these Black on Black shootings in our big cities these days are gang warfare. And what sustains the gangs? The drug trade. Legalize the drug trade and for what purpose will the gangs exist? How will they make money? They may just fold up altogether. Those gangs are primarily money-making operations.
So since most of the shootings are gang related and the gangs exist because of the drug trade, I would say that probably the vast majority of these murders are drug-related in that sense. Not so much related to the consumption of drugs as in people getting high and crazy and blowing each other way but more related to the sale of drugs.
Rambo: Which brings up the question once again: should all drugs be legalized? A lot of Libertarian types say it’s the obvious solution to halt murderous gangersterism, but since Libertarians never get elected to anything, aren’t they just banging their heads against the wall? If all drugs were legalized, how would hardcore drug addicts get the money to acquire the narcotics they desire? Would drug-related crimes increase? Since addicts aren’t likely to be long-term job holders, how would this affect the society at large? It’s not an easy issue to address.
This has already been tried in a sense in Seattle and in some ways, it is being tried in other places like the city of Fresno very close to where I live.
In Seattle, possession of small amounts of heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine are legal. However, drug dealing is still illegal.
In Fresno, meth addicts state that police are not prosecuting meth possession crimes of under a certain amount. So users are carrying precisely this amount with them and possibly dealers are delivering packages in this precise amount. It’s not a tiny amount of meth either.
Legalizing possession of hard drugs in Fresno and Seattle has not led to a decline in drug use, of course. And since drug sales are not targeted and remain illegal, the problem of drug trade-fueled gangsterism obviously carries on regardless.
Legalization of cannabis promised to put a stop to all cannabis-related crimes, but now illegal street sales of cannabis are somehow competing with legal cannabis sales in cannabis shops. I’m not sure on what basis the illegal sales are competing. But legal cannabis is very heavily taxed, possibly taxed so highly that the price has become noncompetitive, and street sales can beat the cannabis shops on price. Border Patrol agents are still seizing huge amounts of marijuana at the border and arresting people for trying to smuggle it across, but this strikes me as absurd considering that restricted use and sales of the drug are already legal in much of the US.
In Seattle, police were arresting street people and the homeless, the vast majority of whom had either mental illnesses or drug addiction issues, regularly for all sorts of petty crimes. The local jails were overcrowded and typically they would be jailed for a month or two and then released. Police complained about a revolving door involving these petty offenders, but it’s hard to see what else could be done. This situation is very much ongoing.
Since use is legal, entire sections of downtown Seattle streets have been taken over by mostly homeless addicts using meth, cocaine, and heroin right out in the open. Low level drug dealing is also ubiquitous.
As a result of all of this, Seattle has become a magnet for homeless people all over the country who are flooding there due to the good treatment the homeless receive there. Nevertheless, downtown streets are now full of homeless people sleeping rough on the sidewalks. People going to work have to step over these human eyesores as they negotiate their way to their jobs very morning. Mentally ill homeless people regularly act loudly and frighteningly crazy right on the sidewalks and streets, creating huge embarrassing and scary scenes. Not much seems to be done about these lunatic ravers.
Perhaps most importantly, now that drug use is legal, addicts have swarmed to the city, and petty theft rates in local businesses have skyrocketed as addicts steal goods to pawn to buy their dope.
So, sure, partial legalization solves some problems, but it also creates a whole lot of new ones.
As usual, I have no ideas on how to ameliorate this situation. I’m going to throw up my hands on this one like I always do.
Video of the Thursday, December 3 assassination of Fahmi Hinavi, the operational chief of Israel’s Mossad, who was killed by an Iranian hit team composed of several assassins southwest of Tel Aviv at 2 AM. Hinavi is thought to be the man behind the assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist a few weeks prior. The team entered Israel a week prior using false identities and spent time in Iranian safe houses that have been long established in Israel but have not yet been uncovered by the Shin Bet.
Iran may have carried out more assassinations on Israeli targets beside this one around the same time, but there’s no confirmation of that yet. There is a cryptic report that this assassination may be connected to two other assassinations of Israeli targets inside Israel. The targets are referred to as “X” and “Y.” I don’t have anything beyond that, sorry.
A senior #Mossad commander, known with his Arab name, Fahmi Hinavi is reported to have been shot dead in Tel Aviv on December 5, 2020, apparently in retaliation to the killing of Iranian scientist Mohsen Fakhrzadeh assassination. Israeli has not yet officially confirmed it. pic.twitter.com/zt5yDwccvK
Above is a photograph of Hinavi al0ng with his bullet riddled vehicle. I am counting 14 bullet holes right in this photo alone.
You cannot see the actual shooting in this video. However, you can see that the scene is swarmed by non-police almost immediately. Also many men coming running on foot. All of this before the police even arrive. Sources inside Israel reported that Mossad and the IDF was on the scene almost immediately, even before the police got there.
Would you expect this sort of chaos if a man had been shot at a stoplight due to a dispute between neighbors. Why would Mossad and the IDF immediately swarm the scene of such a killing even before the police got there. Why would many men come running from all directions towards the scene of the crime, creating a chaotic scene with men running all over the intersection. Who are those?
Cops? Is this typically what happens at some drive-by shooting in a big US city at night? Hell, is this what happens in any typical homicide in the US? Of course not. Police officers don’t come running to the scene of most homicides. They show up in their squad cars for Chrissake. After a typical shooting on Saturday night in Chicago, is the scene quickly swarmed by US military troops and CIA agents? Really? Is any homicide in the US ever immediately swarmed by uniformed US soldiers and CIA agents? When has that ever happened?
The attack was confirmed by Iranian media, Arab news outlets and Sputnik and RT out of Russia.
The initial story saying that this was a hit on the Mossad officer and not a neighbor dispute came out of Tel Aviv, so the story has an Israeli source.
Rishi: Off topic, Robert, but what do you make of this news? It’s left me sad seeing the faces of the victims.
This stuff happens all the time, but keep in mind that the vast majority of those killed by Black criminals are just other Black people. Black criminals positively nuke their own people. If Blacks should be getting mad at anyone, they should be getting mad at their own criminal class which is devastating them. Blacks bear by far the largest brunt of the damage that these men cause, and of course, they are almost all men.
Whites are not particularly at risk of homicide from Blacks.
Blacks make up 13% of the population, yet only 16% of the killers of Whites are Blacks. However, 60% of Whites are killed by other Whites. The average White person you see on the street has an average risk of killing you.
The average Black person you see on the streets is 25% more likely to kill you a person of any race. Hispanics are 18% of the population and 21% of the killers of Whites. The average Hispanic is 16% more likely to kill you than a person of any race. 2% of Whites are killed by the combined group of Asians and Amerindians, which accounts for 7% of the US population. This group is actually the safest to be around if you are a White person. They are 70% less likely to kill you than the average person of any race. It’s much safer for Whites to be around Asians than to be around other White people!
Whites having a 25% increased risk of being murdered by Blacks and a 16% increased risk from Hispanics is not a large risk. It’s not like the average person of these races is 2, 3, 4, or 5 times more likely to kill you.
Note that that 25% elevated risk is taking into account all of the avoidance of Blacks and heavily Black neighborhoods that Whites engage in. So at the present rates of avoidance, the average Black person is only a bit more dangerous to you than the average White person. On the other hand, if you are a White person hanging out in the middle of the ghetto at night, everything is different.
Most Whites are killed by other Whites. If you are White and you get murdered, chances are another White person will have killed you. 84% of Whites are killed by non-Blacks. 1 in 6 murdered Whites are killed by Blacks. 5/6 are killed by non-Blacks. If you are murdered as a White person, chances are you will be killed by a non-Black person.
People don’t get it.
Black men are highly homicidal. Their homicide rate is fully 8X higher than that of White men. But they’re not real particular about who they kill. Actually in fact they are. Black killers massively over-select their own kind for homicide and appear to under-select or go out of their way to not kill Whites.
Black criminals kill everyone. They kill their own people (for the most part), they kill Whites, they kill Hispanics, they kill Asians. And they victimize all these groups for violent crime too. Black criminals simply prey on and kill other humans.If you’re human, you’re at risk from them.
This idea that these evil Black criminals are going out of their way to massacre, wage race war on, and even genocide our White race is a particularly ugly and nasty racist lie. Granted, these folks are murderous and some of us Whites are among their victims, but I assure you that they don’t go out of their way to select us for murder.
People wonder what real racism looks like. Well, it looks like this – this lie that Colin Flaherty et al are pushing. You want to print articles about Blacks killing Whites? Fine, if you run a newspaper. But if not, why not run articles about all of the other races being killed by these people too? Or run articles about every race getting kiled by every other race. In other words, leave race out of it. You’re writing about homicide, not race relations. Homicide isn’t a race problem. Homicide is a human problem, part of the human condition.
Because if you solely focus on Blacks killing Whites, you are pushing a racist lie that Black killers are preying on us Whites like hunters against prey, going out of their way to murder us for some reason, possibly due to their extreme racist hatred of us.
There is a very racist publication (and note that I don’t use the word racist lightly – I only use it where it absolutely applies) called New Nation News. Every month they print an issue of all of the Black on White homicides that month. In a typical month, there might be ~25. Of course most of the cases are very tragic.
If you read that and don’t know what’s going on, you will be outraged and infuriated. It will seem like Black killers are waging a genocidal war against us Whites. And you will start to hate Black people. The more articles you read like that, the more you will hate Black people. Which makes sense because the only reason White people write those articles is to get White people to hate Black people or hate them more if they already do. Their inciting people to anti-Black racism. It’s outrageous.
But that needs to be taken in context.
First of all, 83% of the victims of Black killers are other Blacks, 10% are Whites, 3% are Hispanics, 2% are Asians or Amerindians, and 2% are of unknown race.
Victims of Black Murderers
Blacks Whites Hispanics Asians Unknown
83% 10% 3% 2% 2%
Since Whites make up 60% of the population but are only 10% of Black homicide victims, Black killers are going massively out of their way to avoid killing Whites. Why is that? Who knows? Blacks are 83% less likely to kill a White person than a person of any race. They are also 83% less likely to kill an Hispanic than a person of any race. And they are 67% less likely to kill an Asian than they are a person of any race. Obviously Blacks are going dramatically out of their way not to kill Whites and Hispanics and to a lesser extent Asians.
But they are 640% more likely to kill another Black person as they are a person of any race! So Blacks massively over-select for their own kind when it comes to choosing who to murder. They go wildly out of their way to preferentially kill their own kind while going seriously out of their way to avoid killing non-Blacks. They clearly have a strong preference for killing their own kind and a strong disinclination to kill non-Blacks.
Victims of Black Murderers Odds Ratios
Blacks Whites Hispanics Asians
+640% -83% -83% -67%
So while Blacks may have killed 27 Whites in the US in November, a similar article about Black victims would show that Blacks killed 224 of their own people in that same month! Holy homicide, Batman! That article would be almost 10 times longer than the one above and would contain almost 10 times more victims.
So what’s the real problem here? 27 White people getting killed by Blacks every month or 224 Black people getting killed by Blacks every month. Clearly the latter, no?
And this is the particularly vicious racist lie being pushed in these publications – that the murders of 27 Whites every month by Blacks is somehow a phenomenally worse problem than the 224 Blacks (8.3X more!) murdered by these same folks. I guess those 224 Black people don’t matter. Why should they? They’re just a bunch of fucking niggers, right? But when a White person is killed? Holy Moses! It brings the house down and it’s a national emergency. Whites lives matter! Black lives clearly don’t. I hate BLM but I will give them that one.
The very notion that one White homicide victims is a vastly worse moral offense than five Black homicide victims feels like an ugly racist lie to me. Black lives are only 1/8 the worth of White lives, if that? We are back to Dred Scott now and going even beyond that. What an appalling mindset.
In recent years there have been reports that in certain large cities, 98% of the homicides involved not only Black killers killing Black victims. In these cities where Black homicide rates are raging like Chicago (Chicongo – sorry, racist slang, but it still applies), New York, Philadelphia (Killadeldphia), Minneapolis, St. Louis, Baltimore, etc., sure, a lot of the rise is due to police backing off due to all of these stupid anti-cop BLM protests, but still, in all of those cases, almost all of the killers and victims are Black.
And the homicides are very closely associated with gang warfare, which accounts for the overwhelming majority of the killings. Racists freak out about this and scream and yell, but shouldn’t they be happy? Hey, the niggers they hate so much are Shoah’ing each other. Should be time for celebration, right, boys? Break out the champagne. Guess not.
If anything, these crime waves ought to make us feel overwhelming sympathy for any innocent Black lives that are taken by these killers.
We should also feel sad that Black America has descended this low and debased itself in this matter.
But these city massacres have about 0% to do us White people.
It’s basically a Black on Black Civil War. In a way, I hate to say it, but it’s really not even our problem. They started it and they’re continuing it. They own it. It’s their problem. Maybe they should sort it out.
The Democratic cities are full of crime. Well, that’s because they’re full of Black people, number one. But Trump won’t say that. He says it’s because Democratic mayors (a lot of whom are niggers, right?) won’t crack down on all the wild, out of control crime. Of course the crime is so bad that there’s almost no way to do much about or even tamp it down short of martial law. Just put some Republican mayors in there and they’ll settle those niggers down!
How? Public hangings? Who knows? The people who live in those cities re-elect those mayors because those are who they want to be governed by. The mayors and city governments try their best to stop the wild crime and shootings the best they can, but when crime reaches that sort of a level, there’s not a whole lot you can do.
How about the cruelty. Notice that Trump is going to federally execute 10 people in his term, including five at the very end. He wants to bring back firing squads. Now there’s some raw cruelty for you.
The Republican Party appeals to the cruel heart present in all of us, the desire for vengeance against the cheaters, invaders, criminals, liars, bums, the corrupt, the terrorists, the rioters. Mostly, in other words, the antisocial behavior of the niggers and to a lesser extent the beaner Mexicans.
Welcome to another issue of our ongoing series about the fake anti-Black racism crisis sweeping the country. In fact, racism against Blacks has probably been declining every year since the 1960’s. I can feel it in the air. Around these parts, it’s certainly not ok to say anything remotely like that.
Anti-Black discrimination has probably been steadily declining since the 1960’s along with the concurrent rise of the Black professional and the Black middle, upper middle, and even upper class. And since the BLM riots this summer, support for Black people among Whites seems to have only increased. I saw the change in my very own mother. She become more sympathetic towards Blacks than she’s ever been.
You wouldn’t know this from reading the hysterical media. If you only read their writing, you’d think it was 1867 with the night riders tearing through the night. Or the 1960’s and Bull Connor turning hoses on Black people for saying they are humans. Or the 1950’s and jeering White mobs surrounding five Black girls who had the nerve to follow a judge’s order to be permitted to go to a White school.
In this segment, we will discuss a site called Red Elephants, falsely charged with anti-Semitism for repeating a plausible theory about possible Israeli foreknowledge of the 9-11 attacks. It’s also charged with anti-Black racism (triple yawn) a charge numbingly repeated all day long these days against, well, just about anyone who’s not Black, I guess.
Black people are now following this pathetic trend of wussy victim addiction and babyhood laid by the machinations of the experts at this sort of crap, the Jews. For every charge of racism, there are 8-9 fake charges. Not that there aren’t people who are quite racist against Blacks.
Everything’s racist against Black people now.
My left toe hates Blacks. How do I know? It just told me.
I’ve stopped eating breakfast now because breakfast is racist against Blacks. Think about it. Think how many Black people can’t even afford cereal! See what I mean?
I’ve stopped looking at Black people now because looking at them is racist because everyone who looks at Black people obviously has evil intent. Now I’m not looking at them to show my antiracist bonifides. But now that’s racist too! I guess I can’t win. What to do? Well, I’m thinking of moving to Greenland. Perhaps that will solve both the Black and Jewish problem at once.
Now to the fake racism charges against Red Elephant. First of all, I am quite sure that James Foxx is indeed very racist against Black people. He’s a White nationalist after all, and they’re all deliriously racist against Blacks. But what about his writing. Can we prove it by looking at his writing?
Before we get to that, I think we can show he is racist by his tone. He just can’t seem to write all these negative things about Black folks. Sure, they’re all true more or less, but if you like Black people, you don’t go on and on ranting about their bad side. We all have good and bad sides. Focusing solely on the bad side of anyone indicates that you probably don’t like them very much. But are his pieces evidence of this, that is, are the articles racist in and of themselves? Probably not.
Let’s look at all of these one by one: “Why Black Criminality is a Much Bigger Problem Than Racism or Police Brutality: This one is obvious. Police brutality against Blacks is a very minor issues. Whites and unarmed Whites both are twice as likely to be shot by police per incident. The argument that Blacks are twice as likely to get shot per population leaves out the inconvenient fact that they commit 6X the crime of Whites. So they have 6X as many serious interactions resulting in arrest as Whites do. By the law of averages, they should indeed be more likely to get shot.
A whole 10 unarmed Blacks were killed by police last year. Some were not unarmed at all. A couple pointed guns at police. Another threatened to kill police while he was holed up in his surrounded house. As far as I could tell, they all asked for it other than the tragic case of the police pulling up in front of an apartment complex for a call.
A Black woman, alarmed at the noise went to the window with a gun in hand. Police saw the her looking at the window with a gun in her hand and shot her dead. Well, these things happened. It’s called an honest mistake. It’s also pretty damned stupid to go to an open window with a gun and point the gun out the window without figuring out what’s going on below.
There are graphs showing the number of Blacks killed by fellow Blacks, Whites, and cops. The killed by cops bar is tiny. You can barely see it. The killed by Whites bar is shockingly low. Of course the killed by their own bar is high as Everest.
I have no idea if that’s true, but I’ve heard of quite a few of these attacks by Black nursing home staff, typically ghetto types, male and female, against frail and elderly nursing home residents. I’ve never heard of any attacks by White nursing home workers against Black nursing home residents. I haven’t looked at his figures, but the very notion of the piece is quite plausible.
So all three of these charges of racism are fake. The man is simply reporting pure facts, truth, even scientifically validated truth. The notion that there are such things as hate facts, hate truths and hate scientific truths is a depressing example of how the Cultural Left is postmodernist in attacking the very notion of truth itself, is floridly dishonest and peddles lies constantly, and is leading a most unpleasant attack against our intellectual culture which I would define as a war on language itself. In other words, by debasing language, you destroy the meaning of words.
The US is now a Latin American country. This is the perfect model of a Latin American extreme rightwing regime. The only thing missing is the death squads. I’m sure they’ll be coming along soon enough now.
Otherwise it’s a complete replication, all the way down to a very White rightwing ruling class who lord it over the browner proles.
Corrupt/stolen elections? Check.
Corrupt judiciary? Check.
Culture of lies? Check.
Culture of extreme militarism? Check.
Culture of violent anti-Communist fanaticism? Check.
Both an armed Left (leftwing guerrillas = antifa) and right (death squads/brownshirts/guarimbas = Proud Boys) engaging in violence against each other? Check.
Bread and circuses in the ruling class controlled media? Check.
Distracting the workers with fake divisive issues like abortion? Check.
Threats of rightwing coups, military or otherwise? Check.
A rightwing that literally believes that the Left has no right to rule? Check.
Frequent street violence and rioting? Check.
Sense of living in an alternate reality of nothing but lies? Check.
State rule by big capitalists? Check.
Increasingly militant, radical, and even armed Left? Check.
Increasingly radical and even militant educational sector, especially at the university level? Check.
Fake leftwing parties that only mask the rightwing authoritarian state = Democrats? Check.
Politicized, very rightwing military? Check.
Increasingly incendiary political discourse on both sides? Check.
Economic war waged against left governments in order to destroy the economy? Check.
Extreme and irrational conspiracy mindset on the part of the Right? Check.
Extreme rightwing that pretends to be populist and pro-worker in order to get elected? Check.
Frequent death threats against politicians? Check.
I remember watching the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968. That was pretty impressive. Saw the whole thing on TV at age 10. I was already quite interested in politics and foreign affairs at that age. Mayor Daly, a Democrat, hauled his cop goons out and they set about busting heads. Not long after that was the Days of Rage, and that’s when the peaceful antiwar movement petered out. Now the antiwar movement had a violent wing.
Out of this wing grew the Weathermen. The Weathermen and others set off 50,000 bombs in US in the early 1970’s. The almost always phoned them in ahead of time so people could be evacuated and they usually went off in the middle of the night.
They did kill one man, a graduate student at the University of Wisconsin, staying late in the lab when a Weathermen bomb went off at 3 AM. Everyone screams about that, but the Weathermen were trying to stop the war. That’s what all the bombs were about. They killed one guy. How many did Nixon kill? Who killed more? The Weathermen were trying to end the war and save lives. Was Nixon? Hardly.
I still support the bombing campaign of the Weathermen to this day. In fact, in the 1980’s, I was on the mailing list of their aboveground organization, the John Brown Book Club out of the Bay Area. I got their bimonthly, Breakthrough. They were already pretty insane by them. Hell they were insane back in the day.
Remember that lunatic Bernadine Dohrn’s crazy rants praising the Manson murders? These idiots were already on the “White people are evil” thing. Dohrn would give speeches telling young White women to kill their White babies after they were born so as not to create more evil White people.
Ten years later, in 1981, they hooked up with some crazies called the Black Liberation Army. I believe the BLA was a radical split from the Black Panthers. In the early 1970’s, debate swirled around the Panthers. The war was still on. The Panthers had not achieved their goals. But they were still ostensibly committed to more or less peaceful change. At least they were not committed to open armed struggle.
The bomb-throwers called the peaceful change types sellouts. They felt, as usual, that peaceful change would get them nowhere and the only way to achieve their revolutionary goals was armed struggle. Most of this group split off from the Panthers and the Panthers said good riddance. Attempts to link the Black Panthers to the BLA radical armed revolutionaries are false and sleazy. Don’t fall for it. The Panthers were ok.
Joanne Chesimard (Assata Shakur) was one of their most famous guerrillas. They were completely insane of course, like all the armed groups back then, but I have to admit she was one badass bitch. She’s in Cuba now.
She’s wanted for the shooting death of a police officer who was killed in a shootout with BLA members they pulled over in a car. She’s innocent. She got shot and was badly hurt. Hell, she was in the back seat and didn’t even have a gun. The driver, a man, fired most of the shots including the bullet that killed the cop. He himself was killed.
Incredibly, Chesimard escaped after that shootout (!). She was later imprisoned in a federal prison but the her comrades in the BLA actually broke her out of a federal prison in Florida by disguising themselves as workers delivering linen to the prison. They broke her out in a wild scene and even managed to escape. Chesimard then vanished off the face of the Earth for 2 years.
Actually she was underground, but you have to realize that the Weathermen, etc. were being helped by a huge network of maybe 1 million people, the vast majority of whom have never been caught and have never even been suspected of a crime. 2 years later, Chesimard mysteriously popped up in Cuba!
In 1981, the remains of the Weathermen had taken up the radical Black cause of the BLA, who were Black separatists who wanted to set up a Black state. The remaining Weathermen apparently felt that Blacks were the leading edge of the revolution.
See the parallels nowadays with BLM? The similarities don’t end there. The leadership of BLM itself and its associated organizations includes the remains of the old Weathermen, now reorganized as the Prairie Fire Organizing Committee, still Communists but now apparently pursuing the peaceful road to power.
Another group called the Freedom Road Socialist Organization is also behind a lot of the BLM protests, especially the violent aspects. These are also Communists. I hate to give credit to wild rightwing accusations, but I assure you that the leadership of BLM and its associated organizations are literally Marxists and Communists.
The Weathermen and the BLA robbed a Brinks truck in September 1981 and a wild shootout ensued. Some guards were killed along with a some BLA men. It looks like the BLA were the ones who shot the guards. They were pulled over on the freeway and BLA fighters burst out of the back of the van, guns blazing. More people died. The survivors got away again but were quickly caught. So there ended the saga of the Weathermen.
The FBI conducted raids of activists associated with the Weathermen and the BLA soon afterwards but they came up empty-handed. Everyone had been tipped off and fled ahead of the feds. In one case, the suspects had left so quickly that the coffee kettle was literally still heating on the stove when the FBI burst in. I’m wondering if the Weathermen and BLA had people inside federal law enforcement who tipped them off.
The Weathermen who were arrested in the Brinks robbery, including a few women, are still in prison. One, (((Kathy Boudin))) died in prison of cancer recently. Incredibly, her son, who is probably quite radical himself, recently won the election for District Attorney for the city of San Francisco!
Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers went underground and stayed there for ~20 years (I told you they had a good support network), but were captured after decades on the lam. They were given very short sentences and pretty much let off the hook. I heard Ayers on the radio recently and he was completely unrepentant, defending every bomb the Weathermen ever set off.
They are both now professors in the Education Department of the University of Chicago. They are in deep with the Democratic Party in the area the Democratic city government in Chicago and are pretty much political fixtures in Chicago. Yes, Barack Obama appeared at a couple of roundtables where they were present. Much was made of this by the Retard Right, but there’s less there than their seems. Everyone who is anyone in Democratic politics in Chicago knows Ayers and Dohrn.
They’re cleaned up now anyway and for all intents and purposes, they’re respectable citizens. What’s wrong with this stupid country anyway? In Latin America, former armed Leftist guerrillas lay down arms and then get elected to top posts in the government. The Presidents of Uruguay and Brazil in recent years were both former armed guerrillas from long ago. Why are we so hung up and weird? Let me know when we join the rest of the continent of the Americas, as is our inevitable destiny .
RL: It seems to be an extreme form of homosexuality, and their brains are actually female-shifted. That is, they don’t have female brains or male brains.”
Claudius: I didn’t know this. Interesting. It matches up with what I said. They are just super-duper gay. I like these trannies. They seem very nice, albeit a bit gold-diggerish, but whatever. I could be friends with these people.
I like the real, true, pure trannies too. I’ve heard this group makes up 11% of the tranny population. The other 89% are all autogynyphiliacs, and yes, they are statistically more dangerous to women than CIS men. In one cohort, I think over half of them had a record for sex crimes! I’m serious. They put them in women’s prisons, and a number of them have raped women in there. They go to women’s shelters when they are homeless and tend to make the real women really uncomfortable.
The lesbian trannies are a pretty large group because most of the autogynyphiliacs are straight or at least bisexual. So a lot of this group are attracted to women and call themselves lesbians, except real lesbians absolutely despise them and say they are creepy men pretending to be women. These real lesbians even lead movements against the lesbian trannies, for example, a number of the radical feminist TERF’s are like this.
The lesbian trannies has started to rail against the “cotton ceiling,” by which they mean the real female lesbians who refuse to date the fake female tranny lesbians. They’ve even held demonstrations against this ceiling, and they like to crash lesbian and ultra-feminist gatherings (same thing).
The Michigan Womyn’s Festival, for example, a radfem feminist gathering of mostly lesbian women, got invaded by lesbian trannies a while back. They cracked down hard on them a couple of years ago, and now all lesbian trannies are banned from the festival. I have no idea about how the women running the festival feel about transmen.
A lot of TERF’s feel sorry for transmen and say they are victims of patriarchy, which makes it so miserable to be a woman that a lot of women just say, “Screw it. I’m going over to the enemy. I’m going to be a man and cash in on all the male privilege.” Because of course any problems a woman has with anything on Earth are clearly the fault of us men, right?
Except most real men are probably not real fond of transmen. I’ve known a few of them and even talked to a couple and am even considering fucking one if she still has a womanly body.
A lot of transmen are straight women and when they go tranny, they call themselves gay men. The ones who become really masculine usually end up getting fucked by regular gay men, who don’t seem to care that transmen mostly still have vaginas. To gay men, it’s just a gay man with a vagina. Big deal. Gay guys will screw anything anyway, and this looks enough like a man for them, so they’re down.
The really masculine transmen often have their tits chopped off, which sickens me, and their faces develop a male appearance. They often get a lot of facial hair hair all over their bodies too. So it looks like a dude with a pussy basically.
A lot of them are horny as Hell and looking to get fucked by anyone, mostly guys I guess, but most men seem to be doing a hard pass on these freaks. I sure as Hell would. I wouldn’t fuck a guy with a pussy with a ten foot pole and an 11 foot extension. I’m homophobic as it is in the true sense of the word and that would feel so gay to me, I just could not handle it. It would feel like fucking a guy, and that would set off my homophobic alarm pretty bad.
Why people keep saying California is liberal is beyond me. My city is 80% Hispanic. But my county voted Trump +13. As soon as you get outside of the city limits here, all the precincts went for Trump. And the Whiter wealthier areas in my city also went for Trump. The Central Valley is not very liberal at all! Yeah my Congressman is a Democrat, but he’s a crappy rightwing Democrat, a Blue Dog Democrat who might as well be a Republican.
Let’s look at the ballot propositions. Either Californians are dumb and get swayed by the big money and their fake lying campaigns on the propositions or they’re just not that liberal. Because the vote wasn’t very liberal.
Californians Voted Rightwing on Eight out of 12 Initiatives
Proposition 15: A fake privacy law bolstering law written by criminals like Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, and the rest of the Silicon Valley crooks that actually weakened privacy laws passed! “Liberal” Californians sided with crooked tech billionaire enemies of the people to screw over consumers!
Proposition 16: Bring back affirmative action in employment failed badly. I like that result, but face it, it’s rightwing. So California “liberals” supported an anti-affirmative action proposition.
Proposition 18: Allowing 17 year olds to vote in primaries if they will be 18 in the general in the fall (Big deal!) failed. That’s a very rightwing vote. California “liberals” voted rightwing again.
Proposition 21: Putting in some common sense rent controls in this insanely overpriced housing market failed again. It always fails! Some liberal state! The Legislature won’t pass it either because all the “liberal Democrats” in there are bought off by extremely wealthy landlords. Some liberals!
Proposition 22: Reclassifying gig workers are contractors so their crooked billionaire employers can keep ripping them off and paying them $5/hour, which is what Lyft and Uber pay their drivers (!) passed! “Liberal” Californians voted for big business crooked bosses and ripped off poor workers!
Proposition 23: Regulating the criminal dog capitalists who run crooked dialysis facilities preying on poor workers suffering kidney failure terribly! They’re not regulated at all right now and that’s terrible for sick workers. California “liberals” voted to keep the dialysis crooks unregulated!
Proposition 25: Changing the cash bail system which keeps workers accused of crimes in California’s”liberal” jails that are as terrible as a Hieronymus Bosch painting before they have even been convicted of a thing, sometimes for years, to let non-dangerous people who haven’t even been convicted of a thing out of jail until they go on trial failed! “Liberal” Californians voted to keep poor workers in California’s Dantesque jails just because they’re not rich enough to afford bail!
Californians Voted Liberal on Four Initiatives
Proposition 14: Funding stem cell research barely passed.
Proposition 17: Restore voting rights for felons on parole passed.
Proposition 20: Increasing penalties for some crimes failed.
Proposition 21: The vote to make some large property owners pay the going rate for their property taxes barely passed. The only “homeowners” it applied to had three or more houses! If you own 3+ houses, you’re a “homeowner?” Get out.
There were 12 ballot initiatives. “Liberal” Californians voted rightwing on eight of those 12 initiatives and voted left on only three of the 12, and two of those barely passed with the skin of their teeth!
California “liberals” are not even all that liberal. They’re more like liberal Republicans. The only way they are left is Fake Left which means SJW Left, which isn’t even left at all. It’s just a bunch of bourgeois “fake rights,” most of which attack Whites and men and vastly privilege sexual degenerates and mentally ill freaks who think they’re the opposite sex against people who are normal sexually and do not have a psychosis about their genitals.
Anyone who thinks that is “left” is insane. Remember the Communist countries of the 20th Century? Remember how socially conservative they all were?
Homosexuality was often illegal. Castro put gays in prison.
Trannies would be sent to an asylum where they belong.
Men were free to be men and women to be women.
No Communist country on the face of the Earth was anti-White. In fact, the USSR and the East Bloc were some of the most pro-White countries the world has ever seen.
Porn and gross, open sexual degeneracy and perversion were banned.
That’s the Real Left. The Real Left is left on economics but fairly conservative on the BS social issues..
Kareem: The cops were plain clothes instead of uniform. That’s a huge mistake on their part. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the boyfriend to shoot at a plains cloths person who is breaking down their door in the middle of the night. If that’s not standing your ground then i don’t know what is.
I feel like the cops should be held account for this one. They really goofed on this
I think they have to be plainclothes in these drug raids, but I’m not sure. They don’t want to alert the people that they are there because then the people in the house get rid of the drugs, etc. But I’m not sure if they have to be plainclothes.
Unlike most of these cases, this was just a tragic mistake, almost like an act of God. Things just fuck up due to no one’s fault sometimes. That’s just how life goes. Sometimes when one person kills another, it’s just a straight up accident and no one’s at fault or more commonly, it’s a justifiable homicide. But in this case, though it was a justifiable homicide, I still think it was tragic.
The family already won the Ghetto Lottery and got $12 million. I thought that was ridiculous and outrageous, but whatever. If we have to pay these Blacks off to keep them from rioting, I almost say just do it.
Unlike almost all of these idiots getting killed though, I don’t think Breonna was a terrible person. She wasn’t an angel, but I’m not going to call her a scumbag like the rest of the. I wouldn’t say she was a good person, but I wouldn’t say she was a bad person. She was a little of both.
Mostly she seems to be a woman who had terrible tastes in men and picked a really bad man for a boyfriend. Getting involved with that guy for four years was nearly reckless behavior on her part right there. A lot of people aren’t really good or bad people. We’re just neutral. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
Also, it seems to me that a lot of these scumbags were committing suicide by cop. Get in fistfights with cops? Fight with the cops? Are you fucking insane? I grew up in White suburban culture, but I lived as a criminal and a drug dealer for many years (14 years). I can see why men want to be criminals. Being a criminal is fun! It’s a blast to be an outlaw especially for a permanent rebellious adolescent like me.
I mostly just did victimless crimes like selling pot and psychedelics, but did I commit some victimizing crimes against my enemies, and you bet they deserved it. I never hurt any of them, though I probably should have. I just terrorized them and destroyed their property.
Anyway, I grew up in an outlaw culture of White counterculture hippie dealers, mostly of pot and psychedelics, who regarded the police as the ultimate enemy. Al;so I would like to point out something else. Unlike dealers nowadays, we actually thought we were doing a good thing. We were making society a better place because pot and psychedelic use was good for individuals and society. We actually had ethical codes that we abided by. Check out, “The Righteous Dealer,” by Timothy Leary for more.
One thing I was told over and over, as far back as the 1970’s, was “Don’t fuck with cops! They’ll kill you!” The message was don’t mess with them, don’t fight them, especially physically, just go along with what they ask, even you do so in a begrudging or angry way. Don’t resist. If you fight the cops, the cops will simply kill you. We had bad problems with brutality even back then in all-White Orange County, so it’s not just a Black thing. Cops are just pigs and they do this to everyone, no matter what your race is.
I do like these new reforms they are coming up with because it has the potential to make cops act less like pigs and more like just cops or even humans.
I don’t hate all cops. I think mostly I am just scared or even terrified of them and generally regard them as people to be avoided at all costs. When I have a cop behind me on the road, I often pull over and let him go in front. I don’t like having cops behind me. They’re just pigs and a lot of times just having them in back of them leads them to find some stupid BS reason to pull you over. Plus most of us are not exactly perfect drivers.
I’ve been arrested a couple of times, and they were mean as Hell to me (a White guy), and I’ve never forgotten it.We were hippies and punkers and cops really hated hippies and later punkers back then. My Mom says they still hate hippies. I have no idea. I know a lot of cops look at me with contempt or even hatred. My Mom said it’s because I look like a hippie (my hair’s pretty long). I have no idea.
When they arrested me, they were straight up fucking sadists! I’m never going to forgive them for that unless some cops tell me those guys were wrong. I just got banned from Protect and Serve for no particular good reason. I did write a post that was provocative, but it wasn’t really cop-hating. After they banned me, I’m starting to think they’re just pigs again.
Also, cops are just nothing but trouble. I guarantee that if you are having any interaction at all with cops, odds are it’s not a good sign. I do meet some cops I like in my town, more than I thought I would like. Sometimes I call them to report someone. I was a victim of a crime once, and the cop who came out was extremely nice. They often act like angels around crime victims. But I keep meeting quite a few cops who are just pigs. They’re hostile, like they are trying to pick a fight for no good reason at al. They’re fight-pickers.