Nothing Worse Than a Fed

Tamerlane: FBI is even worse when compared to the police.

They definitely have more psychopaths than sociopaths in their ranks, possibly due to being 1 SD more intelligent than cops in terms of IQ, on average.

They enjoy using the powers the state gives them in creating plots and targeting vulnerable members of society. Sometimes the sick fucks run COINTELPRO just for the fun of it.

They also seem to employ a different kind of psychopath, the more sneaky and cowardly variety.

I’m not ecstatic about cops in general. I guess I feel about them the way I do about Jews and maybe Blacks. I don’t really like them as a group, but I like a lot of individuals from the group. I just don’t like the group as a whole, as a collective. But all of those groups have perfectly fine people in them. And my longest relationship of 5 1/2 years was with a Jewish woman. And she agreed with most everything I said about Jews too. There are cops and there are pigs. There are Blacks and there are niggers. There are Jews and there are kikes. Two different things.

I really hate feds. There are some who only go after serial killers and child killers and murderers in general and whatnot, and I’m just fine with those.

Not real keen on the rest of them.

Not only that, but the FBI works with the CIA on their shenanigans. The FBI framed Libya for the Lockerbie bombing. Libya absolutely did not do that Lockerbie bombing. That’s settled by now. But the FBI deliberately framed Libya because the FBI is like the CIA in that they are crooked spooks who work for US foreign policy.

In Brazil, the FBI assisted in the “lawfare” that took down Brazil’s Lula. They made up false charges about him out of whole cloth and put him in prison for made-up charges. The FBI worked directly with Brazil’s fascist government (fascists love fascists) to frame Lula.

The Feds and the FBI worked with the Venezuelan fascist opposition to cook up the fake drug trafficking charges against the Maduro administration in Venezuela.

They were the ones who arrested the Chinese head of Huawei, Ms. Meng, on completely fabricated charges that wouldn’t matter even if they were true because she’s accused of violating US sanctions against Iran whereby US law somehow extends all over the globe! The US is trying to extradite a top ranking member of the Maduro administration for violating US sanctions against Venezuela. Since when does US law extend to Venezuela? Or Iran? All of those “violating US sanctions charges against foreigners are insane and in my opinion against international law.

I believe that a lot of these Muslim “terror plots” were frame-ups where the federal informants cooked up plots in order to entrap people. I wonder how many of those plots were even real as in not cooked up the fed pig informant.

The FBI was deeply involved in the assassination of Martin Luther King. That’s just a fact. J. Edgar Hoover was a crook. If he wanted you dead, you were dead.

Federal laws are ridiculous and stupid, way worse even then chickenshit state laws. The sentencing guidelines are insane. The recommended terms are far in excess of anything sensible.

Besides, if those fed pigs want to get you, they will get you. You do not want to have the FBI or any fed pigs for that matter coming after you in life. Local cops are bad enough, but you can often live with them, or at least I can. They’re negotiable. You can’t negotiate with feds. If they want you gone, you’re gone. I’ve never had any dealings with the FBI or other fed pigs in my life and I never want to. The farther away you stay from those guys, the better. I hate federal prosecutors too. I can’t believe that chickenshit charges they cook up against people all the time. Ridiculous.

They will come into your home, turn it upside down, and then sift through your whole life going back forever. I figure most people are breaking some sort of chickenshit law most of the time. And if you do a data dump on a lot of people’s lives, you can probably cook up some chickenshit charge against them. And if it’s a federal crime, I guarantee that the sentence for that crime is absurdly excessive.

I really despise all feds (except the homicide detective feds discussed above). Those are the worst pigs of all by far. Can’t stand them!

Sociopathy and Psychopathy as They Relate to LE Officers

From an anonymous commenter: Many law enforcement officers have strong Antisocial Personality Disorder (sociopathic) tendencies. It makes parts of their job easier. It is also why there is domestic violence in up to 40% of police households, depending on definition and which study you read. In any event, it appears to be above the base rate for the population.

It is often excused as job stress and either kept in the home or behind the “blue wall.” Unlike the hardcore sociopath, the vast majority do have a conscience and sometimes that gets to be too much or they realize they are going to get caught in some nefarious deed, and they kill themselves. There has been an unusually strong stigma for LEO’s to seek mental health help when they get depressed or PTSD symptoms worsen. That is changing slowly.

I believe that sociopaths are created and have a small conscience. Psychopaths on the other hand do not.

Most psychopaths never spend a single day in an institution. Our former president is a good example. Controlled psychopaths are a dime a dozen. LE, the military, business, law, and even medicine (particularly surgery) are full of psychopaths. One study found 10% of corporate CEO’s were psychopaths. I’m not sure how many there are in the population.

I have seen figures like 1% for women and 4% for men, but perhaps it is higher. That gives us 2.5%.

Female psychopaths are a lot different and are mostly dangerous to your wallet. They are just stereotypical “thieving whores.” The various sex industries are full of these women. 45% of female prostitutes are psychopaths, and “whore” and “thief” are almost synonyms. I had a date (if you want to call it that) with a woman a while back, and I am 100% convinced she was a female psychopath.

Not very smart at all but in some ways, she had a genius IQ in manipulation, scamming, and lying. She was not a prostitute at the time but had been one in the past. Even former prostitutes are usually bad news. As my Mom says, “You can take the girl out of the whorehouse, but you can’t take the whorehouse out of the girl.”

Whores see men as walking ATM’s. Of course most date men and have boyfriends, but they also drain your bank account and I would advise all men to not date or get into relationships with prostitutes, having had the misfortune of dating a few whores in my life. The porn industry, stripping, etc. is full of women like this. The porn industry is also full of male psychopaths, who are much worse.

On the other hand, male psychopaths are out and out dangerous to your life and limb because they often engage in physical violence.

On most negative variables, the male variety tends to be more virulent and is often a menace, while the female variety is more moderate and is mostly dangerous to your ego, spirit, and sanity. Women just aren’t as “florid and  extreme” as men. Men are like the desert, blazing hot in day, and freezing cold at night. Women are the Mediterranean, more moderate all year long  with few extremes in weather.

For instance, there are more male geniuses, but there are also more male retarded.

Women attempt suicide 5X more than men, but men are 3X more likely to complete it. With women it is often the stereotypical cry for help. But men don’t mess around. Also women use pills, which are notoriously unreliable for suicide. Men don’t fool around like that. They use a gun and get it over with.

The male versions of mental disorders such as Bipolar Disorder tend to be  more virulent, aggressive, violent, psychotic, and wild as they specialize in wild manias. Whereas the women of course tend to be depressed with fewer and more attenuated manic episodes.

Sociopaths are created by society and are hotheaded and not usually very successful. They tend to act on impulse. They do sometimes feel a certain amount of remorse for their acts because they do have a conscience, albeit a weak one.

Psychopaths on the other hand appear to be biologically created perhaps with an additive factor of abuse and head injuries in childhood determining whether one becomes a controlled versus uncontrolled psychopath. Psychopaths are cool-headed, cold and calculating. In contrast to the sociopath, they have no conscience at all. Psychopaths are probably more dangerous but I’m not quite sure. It seems like you might be able to work with sociopaths, although it would be very hard. They give off this “salvageable” vibe to me. I doubt if you could do much work with psychopaths at all.

Having been arrested and thrown in jail twice and having spent a whole six hours in jail, I am quite familiar with psychopathy in LE officers, though they don’t all have it. For every crazy asshole violent sadistic cop, there’s one who’s a lot nicer and more toned down.

One thing I noticed was some prominent sadism in the police who arrested me. They really got off on throwing me into walls, etc. And they loved calling me a faggot. Really got off on that and wouldn’t shut up about it, although I’m not gay. After those experiences, I’m not much of a fan of cops, though I take them as individuals and some are really cool. A lot of others are huge assholes. I think police are best avoided in your life because any time you have police anywhere near your life, there’s probably something bad going on. The further they are from my life, the better.

I don’t care anything about cops or ex cops like detectives, especially if they just work homicide or robbery. I’m probably not real keen on narcs or narcotics officers. I’ve talked to a few of them and they were all self-righteous, sanctimonious dicks. They weren’t very nice either. To them, drugs were evil and they were doing God’s work.

Most detectives probably don’t give two shits about most crimes other than their specialty, especially the chickenshit stuff I got arrested on. Why should I hate a cop who just tries to catch murderers?

I did an interview for a possible attempted homicide with three homicide detectives, two from New Jersey and one from my city.

They were really nice to me but they weren’t going to let me fuck around. Also they didn’t care about other crimes. They asked me if I had committed other crimes. “Like stealing stuff.”

What can you say to that? Of course I’ve stolen a thing or two in my life, but I don’t make a habit of it. I said that and one smiled and said, “Oh, you stole things out of cars, for instance?” like this was the most innocent thing on Earth. If I said yes they were not going to hold it against me. I found that absolutely amazing. I asked about drugs and they said, “We don’t care about your drug history. We’re not interested in hearing about it.”

To tell the truth, they were very nice, warmhearted and congenial guys! I would not want to be in their custody though. I’m think they could turn on the bad cop pretty quick.

Delphi Murders September 30, 2021: In Which The Major Outlines of the Case, Including the Principal Suspects, How It Was Carried Out, and the Motive Are All Revealed!

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First of all, all of this information under the Keys to the Crime and the Motive heading, except for some, came from the police. Info that did not come from the police in that section is italicized.

Second, warning: I will be discussing some truly horrendous and even disgusting things below, so if you can’t handle it, don’t read. I am very sorry for the horrible details I will lay out here, but remember the reaction of LE to this crime at the first press conference and how shaken up they were? This is why.

Third, it appears the facts of this case are so much more horrible than we ever thought.

Fourth, The term guardian below refers to either a mother, a grandmother, or a grandfather.

Fifth, Our source is a LE officer close to the case. We can’t tell you anymore about them because they can get in trouble for leaking to us.

Lately they have been careful in how they talk to us. They mostly talk in riddles. Some of us call the source “The Riddler” in reference to the Batman show. They also speak using a lot of cryptic statements. In addition, almost everything we get is not posed to us as a fact. Instead statements are posed as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and above all questions. The source throws a boxful of pieces of a jigsaw puzzle at us. Further, they aren’t very nice about it lately. I guess we are supposed to put the puzzle together.

We think we do a good job of that, but if you want to attack us on the basis that our info comes in cryptic statements and riddles we don’t put together the puzzles properly, you are free to do that.

Sixth, you will notice I use the “editorial we”. Well, I do have a Journalism degree, so I know what I am doing. Also, I wish to make these posts less egocentric. Most importantly, all of this information comes to me from members of my sleuthing group. So when I say, “we,” I am saying this is what the whole group thinks. So in a way, all of my posts are not being written by me but are instead being written by my group.

Seventh, We are not referring to either girl by name below. We know which we are talking about in every instance, but we are making the girls indistinguishable out of respect for them and due to endless attacks that our reporting is not sensitive to the girls, who, in all honesty, are dead anyway and could care less what anyone says about them.

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We are going to try a different tack in this post. A lot of the information below will be stated in a similar way as it came to us from our source. That is, the facts below will be posed mostly as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and most of all, questions. Some things will be stated as fact. It’s up to you to put it all together.

We just figured out much more about this crime. We now know at least the motive and why certain things were done.

First of all, we are going to need to hide the names of some people.

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The Main Suspect and Players in the Delphi Murders Case

We are not going to list the names of any of the main players in this case at the moment, or possibly ever. If you join our private group though, you can learn all of this information. We are doing this to protect these suspects and possible suspect, who are factually all presently innocent of committing this crime, from harassment and harm.

Mr. X: The main suspect in the case. Delphi resident, age 49 at the time of the crime, otherwise unremarkable person. The police think he is the man who actually conducted the murders and they also think he is the man on the bridge. We agree with the police on this. Listed as not a possible suspect but in fact the main suspect in the crime. He is also now the main suspect in the Evansdale Murders.

J or now Mr. J: J was a 17 year old boy at the time of the crime. He is now a 21 year old man. He is closely associated with Mr. X. We are now stating for an absolute fact that J, or at least a photo of J, is the 19 year old Catfish Boy used to catfish a girl over four months on Snapchat. In addition, a young man seen by a female witness at the south side of the bridge at 12:30 PM in the day of the murders.

She chased him off her property. She said he had dark and evil eyes. The thing is that the composites of the Catfish Boy and the young man seen at the bridge above are almost perfect matches of each other. Therefore, we believe that it is possible that J was present at the bridge that day, although LE have not confirmed that to us. All they have confirmed to us is that he is absolutely the Catfish Boy. Police also believe that he helped set up the scary and bizarre crime scene. There is also “a question whether he was just the Catfish Boy or whether he played a larger role than that,” to quote our source. Close friends with Misters P, B, Q, and F. Listed as a “possible suspect” in the crime.

Mr. P: Mr. P was a 26 year old man at the time of the crime, now 30 years old. He is closely associated with one of the families. Police believe that he helped set up the bizarre crime scene, but are uncertain of his involvement beyond that. The crime scene was probably set up by these young men no more than 24 hours before the crime. He may have had foreknowledge of this crime by a couple of hours or so.

He was interrogated by police soon after the crime. He got out of jail seven months before the crime. He has a criminal record mostly for repeated drunk driving offenses. We believe he met criteria for Conduct Disorder as a youth and may have trended into Antisocial Personal Disorder as an adult. On the other hand, he is very charming, but most of these types are like that. Close friends with J and Misters B, Q, and F. Police say he is a “possible suspect” in this crime.

Mr. B: Mr. B is a former police officer in a nearby town and a good friend of J and Misters P, Q, and F. I believe he was in his mid-30’s at the time of the crime. Soon after the crime, he was abruptly fired from his job. LE then searched his apartment and turned it upside down in the process. We have no idea why he was fired or why the apartment was searched. We are uncertain of his role in the crime, except that he may have foreknowledge of the crime by a couple of hours. He may have helped set up the crime scene, but we have no evidence of that.

Mr. Q: Another young man, friends with J and Misters F, B, and P, who helped set up the bizarre crime scene. We call him Mr. Q because his identity is not known at this time. He is listed by police as a “possible suspect” in the crime.

Mr. F: A young man, 20 years old at the time of the crime, now 24 years old. Police believe that he impregnated one of the murdered girls and  he was pressuring her to get an abortion. We are calling him Mr. F because he was the father of the fetus the girl was carrying. His involvement is unknown beyond that, however he is good friends with J and Misters Q, B, and P. He is not a suspect in this crime.

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The Keys to the Crime and the Motive

Note: All of the information below came to us from the police except for whatever is in italics. That came to us either from rumors, our own investigations, or good sources other than the police.

There are some keys to this crime:

Remember that post a man made to his friend about “I only nutted in her once” and “she was only 14?” That text message is the key to the whole case right there. That was supposedly from a rap song. Well, that has nothing to do with one of the men having sex with a 14 year old girl like everyone thinks.

What if those men were referring to a mutual friend of theirs, 20 years old, Mr. F, having sex with a 13 or 14 year old girl, one of the murdered girls? And perhaps not just having sex with her her but actually knocking her up? I have been reporting since very early on in the crime that one girl was pregnant. I received more abuse for this statement than for anything else I wrote about this crime. However, I can now that as an absolute fact that one of the murdered girls was pregnant. She was in the early stages of pregnancy. Both of those girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex, so getting pregnant was definitely a possible thing.

Both of those girls were growing up way, way too fast. They were both 13-14 going on 20. One girl had a cousin, M., who was taking her to bonfire parties where there was a lot of drugs and drinking for a few years from 12 to 13 or 14. There were many grown men at those parties, including many who may have had no qualms about having sex with a 13-14 year old girl. And this girl may indeed have been using drugs from ages 12 to 13 or 14. Her guardian had recently forbidden her from hanging out with this cousin as a bad influence.

Remember that video “We have a secret?” released the night before the crime where both girls are holding up their fingers in the secret signal? The secret was that one girl was pregnant, and she had told the other one.

Screenshot posted by the girls the night before the murders. The text said, “We have a secret.” We believe that the secret was that one girl was pregnant.

Let us assume that a 20 year old man, Mr. F, impregnated one of these girls. What if perhaps Mr. F was pressuring the girl to abort the baby, and the girl was balking? Mr. F was looking at possible incarceration for banging a 14 year old girl and then 18 years of child support. Could it be that Mr. F told J and Misters P, Q, and B about his plight with the girl who would not abort? Is there a possibility that J and Misters Q and P got together and decided to terrorize this the girl into aborting the child? And perhaps and older man these young men knew, a 49 year old man named  Mr. X – got into the mix somehow. Perhaps he also felt the girl should abort.

Perhaps word got out that if this girl became obviously pregnant, a girl’s guardian was threatening to harm or kill Mr. F or lock him up. Could it be that this guardian, a very religious person by all accounts, is anti-abortion and opposed this abortion plan? Could that be the nature of the falling out with this guardian and Mr. X?

Could it be that these three young men, J and Misters P and Q, set up that weird bizarro crime scene beforehand with the stuffed bear, the dolls, the sheet with the smiley face, the crucifix, on and on, to lure the girl there to terrorize her and threaten her to have the abortion?

The five foot stuffed bear visible at the crime scene to the right and below one girl’s body. We think it is a Valentine’s bear because we think it has a message in its hand. The message says, “I love you” or something along those lines. Another cruel and wicked aspect of this crime. Is it possible that Mr. X escalated things way beyond what was intended all the way to the next level and two girls ended up getting killed? Is it possible that one girl was not the intended target but was instead killed to eliminate a witness?

Perhaps these young men were more involved than that. Perhaps J, Mr. P, and Mr. Q, the unknown third man were actually involved in the planning of this crime and instead of intending to terrorize a girl, they actually intended to murder her. In that case, LE would be looking at a murder involving one older man and three young men, or four people. Mr. X is of course an actual suspect. Is it possible that LE could be looking into these three young men as suspects, but in this case a lesser quality of suspects, “possible suspects,” too?

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The following information did not come to us from the police. It consists of unverified rumors, albeit very long-lasting ones. However, a female search party member has stated that one girl’s abdominal cavity was excavated.

Remember those rumors about one girl being gutted and partially disembowled with a gut knife?

A sheathed gut knife. Rumored to have been used to carve up one of the girl’s bodies. It is not known how they came to this conclusion. One rumor is that this knife was left at the scene. Another possibility is that they inferred that this type of knife was used due to the nature of the wound.

What if that were true and not just an idle rumor? What if a search party member reported that it was true that one of the girls was seen in this condition at the crime scene?

An unsheathed gut knife. Police were going around to local hardware stores in the weeks after the crime asking if anyone had bought a gut knife. Also police openly stated that they were looking for “an unusual knife or cutting weapon” but would not elaborate beyond that.

A scalpel was also found at the scene. There is a crime scene photo of a scalpel at the scene which we are trying to get a hold of. Scalpels are often used to remove fetuses in abortions. Could it be that we are now all the way back around to our very first theory that we got torn to pieces over – a hillbilly abortion?

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Bottom line is a girl was pregnant is absolutely the key to this crime.

Police Have Opened an Investigation into the Beyond Highbrow website!

We have learned that the police are investigating who is leaking to us, which shows our facts are correct. If the source was giving us nonsense and lies, the police would not care at all. This is excellent because it shows that our account of this crime is correct at least in part.

It also shows that police read our website and are onto us and our sleuthing group. I always thought maybe they did, but I never knew they took us so seriously.

We now have a retired LE homicide detective who worked 1,000 cases who is working with our group. He has been incredibly helpful to us.

Top US Expert on Serial Murder Is Briefed on the Case by US and Expresses Interest in Joining Our Team!

Also, one  of the nation’s top experts on serial killers has expressed interest in joining us, as has a female homicide detective who ran an 80-person unit in France.

Repost: They Were Committing Crimes

Originally written 13 years ago.

Chip Smith of Nine Banded Books said he liked it, and it should be published in a book. He said it reminded him of Peter Sotos‘ work. Interview with Sotos by Chip Smith. Nine Banded Books is his book publishing outlet for sick fuck books. Chip Smith is a sick fuck too, by the way. I kind of liked that, being compared to Peter Sotos. Peter Sotos, in case you are wondering, is a homosexual. He’s also sick fuck, a sick fuck writer of sick fuck fiction. But he was the King of the Sick Fucks, and the King of the Sick Fuck Writers of Sick Fuck Books, and you know that has to count for something. I was in good company. I’m still proud to this day of being compared to that sick sonofabitch.

From Wikipedia:

In his books, Sotos examines sadistic sexual criminals and sexually violent pornography, particularly involving children. His writings are interpreted by some as commenting on media hypocrisy around these issues. His books are often first person narratives, taking on the point of view of the sexual predator in order to explore sadistic and pedophilic sexual impulses.

In addition to offering many details about the crimes of serial killers and Nazis, the text in the magazine praises them, describing them using such terms as “genius”, “glorious”, “exemplary”, and “illustrious”. The text is juxtaposed with pictures and newspaper clippings relevant to the crimes discussed, showing that the media also abuses the victims. A short manifesto introducing the first issue says the magazine “satiates and encourages true lusts.”

Good Lord, no way am I as sick as this guy!

Some of his sick fuck books:

Lazy (1999) examines the public fascination with sex crimes, and their influence on artworks such as the painting Myra by Marcus Harvey.

Selfish, Little (2004) recounts the murder of Lesley Ann Downey by British Moors Murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley in 1964.

Predicate (2005) explores the Dunblane Massacre in Scotland in 1996 and the motives and life of its perpetrator Thomas Watt Hamilton. Other topics covered include Operation Ore, the Wonderland murders, Russian orphanages, Megan’s Law, and non-nude teen websites.

Comfort and Critique (2005) explores the hidden motives of reporters and citizens as shown by their reactions to sexual crimes.

Show Adult (2007) investigates the experience of pornography. The book also analyzes the TV shows Supernanny and To Catch a Predator as publicly acceptable forms of child pornography.

Lordotics (2008) deals with sex offenders and the art of photography.

Pure Filth (2012) details transcripts of the gonzo movies porn star Jamie Gillis produced during the 1990s. Gillis adds an introduction to each transcript. Sotos, who was a friend of Gillis, brings his own perspective to these records. The book was completed a few days before Gillis died in February 2010.

A sample of his prose from Mine, of his sick fuck books. I think I like it already.

I have to pin the words down, cut them out and place them as far as possible from the dunce economy. I’m not an exegete. But I take the words and ideas and stutters and stick them somewhere far more successful. You’ll understand this, finally, when I demean myself enough to tell you what I do with the words that these mouthy pigs just repeat often enough to tell you that they stand behind them. It’s not what I take, or who I take them away from. But where I put them. Not rewrite them.

Not change or charge the context. I identify them. I don’t, idiot, masturbate with them. I can’t imagine wanting to do anything without having these words fully included. I wouldn’t even consider doing anything without them. The cunts that make cartoons out of their ideas. Little collages and signatures and slack versions. Strippers and songwriters and female’d max factors. I live all over them. I write through them, use them, come away with little more than a dangling possible.

What I do is inescapable.

The main characters here are some guys I knew, or maybe I never knew, or maybe I made up, or maybe they’re really me – Thrillseekerman, an all around petty criminal and moral degenerate, Internetman, an Internet semi-criminal who straddles the line between legal and illegal, and Killerdude, a truly dangerous fellow with psychopathic tendencies whose bark is worse than his bite. Of course none of these people could possibly bear any possible resemblance to me, right? Of course not! This is just stuff a bunch of maniacs told me. I’m just a journalist, scribbling things down, good and bad, right and wrong, not caring to distinguish between any of them.

They Were Committing Crimes

There were committing crimes.

And no one ever caught.

Internetman

They Were Committing Internet Sex Crimes

A few months ago, or 10 years ago, or maybe today, or maybe I read it on the Net, Internetman met 15-year-old girls on the Net, and they sent him nude pics without him even asking, and said they wanted to have sex with him right now, but they were too far away. So what did he do with the pics? Delete them, call the cops and turn himself in, or keep them in an evil secret file to show it to his most evil friends? I bet they are gone now. Internetman is paranoid. Not only that, but he’s not stupid. Were they illegal? Was Internetman a criminal? He never got caught.

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Internetman went into a chatroom the other night, or was it five years ago, or was it just something some friend said? There was a teenage girl in there masturbating on cam, and everyone in the room was watching the fun. Well, she was 13, but she looked like a full-grown to him. The chat room was full, mostly kids but some adults too, both sexes, including middle-aged women. They were all watching the girl on cam and cheering her on.

Some kid in the room said, “I know her! She’s 13! She goes to my school!”

Internetman turned on the cam and it was ok. It was like you take the body of a full-grown woman and then stick a little girl’s face on it, then you make it act like a little girl sometimes. The effect was jarring. Was it illegal? He got away with it.

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It was seven years ago, or seven weeks ago, or seven months ago, or tomorrow, and 14-year-old girls came to talk to Internetman in the chatrooms and ask for cybersex. What’s a man to do? What did he do? I bet he didn’t get caught. It was a while back, or the other day, or some time ago, or 4-7 years ago, and Internetman did the cybersex thing with them, the 14-yr-olds, the 15-yr-olds, and the 16-yr-olds, and of course the droves of many more legal-aged women as well, and it was all in good fun.

One of them was just a friend, but she begged and begged for him to send her porn, so he broke down and sent porn to a 14-yr-old girl. Was that illegal? Now he’s paranoid, and he’ll never do it again. Or will he? Maybe he better not. Times change, you know. But then again, he never got caught.

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In a chatroom, five days ago, or last year, or five years back, or yesterday, or ten years from now, the 17-year-old girl saw he had a cam and asked him to turn it on. Internetman did so. She started whining for him to take his pants off so she could see his stuff, because she had never seen one before.

“But I’ve never seeeeen one before,” she whined into Internetman’s headphones, but he chickened out again. I bet he wouldn’t have gotten caught.

They Were Committing Statutory Rape

Internetman met a girl once on the Net a few weeks ago, or was it seven years ago, or was it in a dream? She was 17 years and seven months old, and wanted sex right now. She kept demanding and demanding, and she would not knock it off. She was a lesbian, but she wanted to try it with a guy to see what it felt like.

“Why with me?” Internetman asked.

“Because,” she said. “You are handsome.”

Internetman thought and thought and thought, and he almost did it because she wouldn’t quit pestering him, but finally he worried it was an evil plot by one of his enemies trying to get him arrested for statutory rape. Good thing he was paranoid, so he never took her up. He still wonders about it. “Would I have gotten caught?” he wonders.

They Were Collecting Child Porn

Internetman went into these really evil chatrooms, just on a wild dare, and people were all trying to do horrible and illegal stuff in there, men and women of all ages, normal folks, and weird, the whole human panoply. Internetman tried not to do anything illegal. Will he go there again? He doubts it.

The Internet is the most evil place Internetman knows, and Internetman knows a lot of evil places, and he’s been to most of them at one time or another. Somehow he always got out alive. Somehow he never got caught.

You can do just about anything on the Net, and who knows if it’s even legal or what? Where are the cops? What’s a cop? There are bulletin boards right now where people are asking for child porn and bragging about their antisocial acts, and Internetman knows where they are. He’s been to them, lurking, never talking, but he didn’t do anything illegal. There was nothing illegal on the boards. Just a lot of evil talk. A lot.

He just stayed and watched the perverts perving.

“Young!” the perverts said, “Anyone got any young?”

And you know what that means.

There were men and women in there of all ages, goodlooking young couples, middle aged housewife types, the most normal people in the whole world, all trading the most evil pornography of all. Why? What gives? Was it the thrill? Of the forbidden? Of the crime, the rush of the crime, a rush like no other? Of getting away with it?

Internetman went to chatrooms where sex perverts traded porn pics. Internetman, being a pervert, was right at home. Mostly it was fun, but some people sent Internetman really illegal pics without him even asking, and he freaked out and deleted them about as quick as they hit the screen. Was that illegal? Did Internetman commit a crime? Internetman trembled in his seat. Trembled with excitement. With terror. With the rush. The rush of getting away with it.

They Were Raping Women

Internetman went to this chatroom last year, or eight years ago, or yesterday, or just some lie he told the cops, and met this guy in Kentucky, a psychopath I guess, who wanted someone to rape his wife.

“I’m looking for someone to rape my wife.” he announced.

Well, that was about the weirdest thing Internetman had ever heard, so he was intrigued and stuck around for the ride.

The guy would be gone. You had to break in, tie her up, rape her, and get away with it. Well, actually you didn’t have to get away with it, but that would certainly be preferable! He said you could not hurt her in any way.He described the sex acts he wanted Internetman to engage in with his wife.

“Fuck all holes,” he said.

Internetman was worried. “What if she doesn’t like it?”

“Don’t worry,” the guy said. “She’ll love it.”

Getting away with it was Internetman’s business, he’d been doing it his whole life and he’d never been caught for any of the crimes he’d ever done, and here the guy said would not call the cops and report the rape.

“How do I get away with it?” Internetman asked.

“That’s your business. Your problem. You’re on you own there,” the guy said.

So Internetman sat there and wondered whether or not he could be a criminal rapist and try to get get away with it, under special circumstances of course in which at least the victim’s husband consented, but he chickened out at the end. But he used to think about it sometimes? Could he have done it? Would he have done it? What if he got caught? What if he got away with it?

Killerdude

They Were Killing People

Killerdude came over a while back, or 25 years ago, or the other day, and said he was considering taking an offer to kill some guy, from a woman who was offering big money to have her husband knocked off.

So they, Thrillseekerman and Killerdude, sat around for hours blasted out of their minds on dope and talked about whether or not you should murder someone for the money. They discussed Christianity, as in whether or not a Christian should kill, and whether or not the would-be murder victim deserved it since he was a wife-beater, and Thrillseekerman tried to spy on Killerdude for the cops, but it did not work.

Thrillseekerman didn’t like the idea of killing for money (even Thrillseekerman had some basic values, if only a measly few) and thought his friend was degenerating morally. Even though his name was Killerdude, Thrillseekerman had never taken it literally. He thought it was all for show, like most things men do.

What if Killerdude did it? Would it corrode his mortal soul? Could he ever look in a mirror again without smashing it? Would he make his peace with God and the Devil both? Could he keep it a secret? Would the guy have deserved it? Is there a universal morality, or nothing beyond the ether? And most importantly, would he have gotten caught?

They Were Serial Killers

They took lots of drugs, Thrillseekerman and Killerdude did, while they talked about all this insane and evil stuff. It was last month, or was it 15 years ago, or it was something he hallucinated while he was on acid. They sat around for hours at night stoned out of their minds on chemicals.

Killerdude exclaimed, “Yeah! I could play the role of the insane serial killer! I could play that role! I could play any role! I could play as many roles as you could, Thrillseekerman! And that’s a lot of roles.

They shook their heads and laughed demoniacally. It was fun to be evil sometimes. You can’t be a choir boy forever. Sometimes you need a bit of rough.

But Thrillseekerman didn’t really consider it, just fantasized about it. About what? Being a serial killer? How many people do that? Could he have done it? Could Killerdude have done it? Could they have gotten away with it?

Thrillseekerman

It was really weird back in those days, or the other day, or whenever it was, or maybe it never even happened, but not too many actual crimes happened. There was just a lot of talk. Cheap talk. Talk is cheap.

They Were Selling Drugs

Thrillseekerman sold dope for 14 years, and the cops never caught on. He finally quit, and now he’s scared to do it again, but the temptation is always there, because he so loved the outlaw dealer life where you never get caught and outsmart the law. He also loved being a dealer because he loved being a criminal. As a dealer, you can be a criminal without hurting anyone else, so if you have a shred of guilt left, and Thrillseekerman does, but only just a shred mind you, it’s a great Catholic profession.

They Were Robbing Stores and Driving Getaway Cars

One of his drug addict friends, Killerdude, came over the other day, or was it 22 years ago, or was it a lie his enemies made up? He asked Thrillseekerman to be the getaway driver for an armed robbery, and Thrillseekerman considered it, but thank God he didn’t do it.

A few months back, or 18 years ago, or just some lie he told, one of Thrillseekerman’s doper friends drove the getaway car for an armed robbery, and he told Thrillseekerman all about it. Then the armed robber himself came over to Thrillseekerman’s house with his girlfriend, and they sat around and took drugs. He seemed like a smiling psychopath, and those guys are always charming in a way. Later Thrillseekerman called the cops and told them the guy’s name, but there was not much they could do.

They Were Turning People In to the Cops

Last week, or 21 years ago, or while he was daydreaming, Thrillseekerman called the cops on his friends and tried to get them busted. Once for selling heroin because Thrillseekerman thought that was shitty. The other time because Thrillseekerman was mad at his friend who sold pot and wanted to burn the guy.

Dealers work with narcs all the time, and Thrillseekerman was a dealer like a lot of thrillseekers. Why? Mostly for revenge reasons. Most people don’t know that. Without dopers to work alongside them, every narc in America would be unemployed.

They Were Stealing Cars

Once, 11 years ago, or a few weeks back, or in a movie he saw once, Thrillseekerman stole Killerdude’s car, not to be a criminal or anything, but just because he was furious at him, but he brought it back when the cop’s son across the street was going to have him arrested.

They Were Vandalizing Businesses

One time, it was last month, or last year, or it was 20 years ago, or long ago in another world, and Thrillseekerman drove by a business at 5 AM with a slingshot and blew out a window in a business because he hated it and it was evil.

Committing street crimes like that, which were actually a revolutionary acts in favor of People’s Power and against the crooked businesses that rip off the People, is one of the biggest rushes that Thrillseekerman knows. You will shake like a leaf. You will shake so hard it will be hard to steer the car after you do it. You will be terrified and thrilled all at the same time, and when you get away with it, there will be no better feeling.

They Were Setting Off Bombs

Once, in another country, or on the run or the lam, or just for shits and giggles, or maybe just as an urban legend, they got loaded and made some bombs. It was a few months ago, or 13 years ago, or back in the 80’s, or I made up the whole thing. Thrillseekerman had these antisocial maniac friends, some of whom seemed like they might snap, but Thrillseekerman wasn’t worried, and they liked to make bombs, like all maniacs do. It’s so fun making illegal bombs! The psycho dudes showed Thrillseekerman how to make bombs, which is so easy it’s scary.

You take some Piccolo Pete fireworks, take them apart, and there’s gunpowder inside. You take a softball and hollow it out and fill it with the gunpowder from the Piccolo Petes. You patch the hole but leave a small hole for the string. That’s your fuse. You put a string down in and fasten it. It’s not really a bomb. It’s more like a giant firecracker, like an M-80. It’s not a shrapnel bomb.

Then they took the bombs and blew up this dude’s windshield (who deserved it) with a fused time bomb, and they slashed his tires (he deserved that too) and never got caught. Then later they went to his apartment complex and they got a bunch of guys and they all turned his car upside down so it was sitting on its roof and they never got caught for that either! He’d been ripping off the local dealers. The street has a thousand eyes and thousand ears. The street knows everything. Nothing gets away from the street. The thing about the street is the Paybacks. The paybacks are a bitch, you know? Believe it.

Then they took another bomb, this time sort of a firebomb that shoots up a flame, and threw it on some other guy’s lawn (who deserved it), and it burned a hole in the lawn. They got away with it.

Making little bombs is the easiest thing in whole world to do, and every revolutionary and maniac of any age might want to make them and set off them in the street at least, that is if you have the nerve, just to see what an explosion looks like and to piss off the boring neighbors.

They Were Waging Gang Warfare

Once, when they were young, or maybe when they were old, or maybe they just read it in a book somewhere, they called themselves a gang and sat on the front porch of Thrillseekerman’s house and shot BB pellets and rocks and dirt clods at the neighbors’ house (who deserved it) and dared them to call the cops. The people did call the cops, but the cops hardly cared because they thought Thrillseekerman was doing a civic duty by getting rid of the real criminal (the neighbor) he was attacking. In other words, Thrillseekerman was a public service vigilante ridding the neighborhood of scum as he saw fit. So they got away with it.

They Were Smashing in Doors with Baseball Bats

Once upon a time, today, or happily ever after, Thrillseekerman grabbed a baseball bat, laughed maniacally, and ran across the street in broad daylight as a joke so the whole world could see it and to dare the coward neighbors cowering in their sissy kitchens to call the cops. When he got to the scum’s door, he smashed it in with his baseball bat! Bam! The door caved in! Then he ran back home. He laughed because he thought he got away with it. The cops paid him a visit on the phone, told him to watch it, and told him to spend $10 to repair the door.

Moral: If you’re doing a public service crime, do it in broad daylight.

They Were Flashing Women

It was just the other day, or long, long ago, or it was just some made-up bullshit. Thrillseekerman sneaked into the ladies room to take a crap because the criminal, feral, 13 year old Black youths were in the men’s room threatening with their eyes to attack anyone who came in. He thought he could do it quick and dirty and simple without anyone seeing. He thought he could get away with it. He was wrong. A woman called the cops, and the detectives threatened to kick Thrillseekerman’s ass if he did not confess to a perverted crime he did not commit. He only wanted to confess to taking a crap in the wrong place and the wrong time, which was the only crime he did.

Well, he was also trying to see if he could get away with it, so there was a thrillseeker aspect. The detectives quickly figured out he was not a pervert, but they kept on torturing him anyway and trying to get him to confess. Don’t you just love detectives? How many people in the US just confess unless the cops beat the shit out of them?

They Were Molesting Children

He was 20 again, or was he 50, or was he 35 or was it some lie his enemies made up? He was jogging in the park, and Thrillseekerman met a 12 year old girl he had known from an old job for a long time, and they chatted a bit and smiled and laughed, and then she flat out asked Thrillseekerman to have sex with her and smiled when she said it, just like that. Not only that but she was beautiful, brilliant, wise, and athletic.

And Thrillseekerman considered becoming the ultimate criminal that you can be, a child molesting sick evil scumbag piece of dirt, but then he decided against it. There are Lolitas and teenage girls that want it, 12 and up, with adult men, 18-65. And if you do it and get caught, you are going down in the worst way. Is it worth it? Will you do it? Can you resist it? And most of all, will you get caught?

They Were Having Gang Shootouts

It was yesterday, or long ago in another world. A whole crowd of gangsters came in the door. There had just been a gang fight, and people were hurt. The gangsters were underage, some of them, but they used an 18 year old girl to get in the door because they knew Thrillseekerman’s fatal weaknesses.

Later there were shots fired 50 yards from his door, and the cops didn’t even want to take any witnesses. They never do in gang crimes, and besides, in Greater Tijuana, here in California, there are pro-gang Hispanic spies everywhere. Thrillseekerman’s White, and he claims Norteno, or does he? Or does the whole neighborhood? After all, he lives in a Norteno hood, so everyone more or less claims in a way. Thrillseekerman wears jogging shoes with N on them for a reason, or does he?

They Were Doing Drive-by Shootings

Three weeks ago, or nine months ago, or 12 years ago, or never, someone came by and flashed a United Farm Workers shirt – Do you get it? Nortenos! – at Thrillseekerman and asked him to go out with a shotgun and kill some Surenos.

“Hey Thrillseekerman, let’s go get a shotgun and shoot some Scraps!”

Thrillseekerman had to think about it for a bit because nothing would be so thrilling and dangerous, and Surenos probably deserved it anyway, being scumbags after all, but thank God he declined. In the barrio anyway, no snitching was the rule, so you might even get away with it, but you could still get caught. Thrillseekerman didn’t like to get caught. He liked to get away with it. After all, he’d been getting away with it his whole life. Which, after all, was the point of it all. All the crime. All the bad behavior. All the bad boy fun and games and shit. The getting away with it. The not getting caught.

They Were Committing Crimes

There were criminal opportunities all over the place for decades, right under your nose, people enticing you here and there to break the law and commit serious crimes, some of them felonies, if only one was psycho enough, and they seemed to dare you and egg you on. Will you do it? Can you resist it? Will you get away with it? Will you get caught?

Porn: What’s Legal? What Illegal?

Note: I don’t really hate cops, but I’m not wild about them either. Now if a cop is, say, a detective working robbery or homicide, why should I have a beef with him? He’s catching robbers and killers. Why would I have an issue with that?

I don’t even mind dope cops anymore (although I used to hate narcs) as long as they aren’t busting pot. I have no problems with cops busting people for selling meth, crack cocaine, fentanyl, or heroin. That’s stuff’s garbage.

Now we get down to your ordinary street cop. Let’s look at my city. About half of the cops in my city are huge assholes, the biggest dicks on Earth. It’s like they’re always trying to pick a fight. Don’t like them one bit. But the other half are often pretty nice, and sometimes, they’re extremely nice to me.

But fed cops busting guys for buying whores or fucking 17 year old girls or kids sexting each other or adults possessing written stories or pictures of clothed humans that the cops don’t like? Get out. They’re pigs, plain and simple. Pests.

And the worst cops of all are feds.  Now if feds are only going after murderers as some FBI do, I have no problem with them. Or financial criminals or fraudsters.

But you don’t even want to be a subject of one of their investigations. Federal sentencing guidelines are batshit insane, far in excess of a reasonable sentence. They’re ridiculous! And if the feds want to get you, they will get you. They will dump all of your possessions on the  floor and go over them with a fine toothcomb. They will examine your whole life with a magnifying glass. And they will probably find that you are breaking some law somewhere somehow.

I imagine most of us are violating some stupid-ass law on a fairly regular basis. I know I do. I don’t feel good about myself unless I’m breaking at least one law. I feel like a great big pussy. Call it Permanent Bad Boy Syndrome. God forbid I should arrive at a time in my life when I’m no longer at least one dumbass law. I would probably look around like crazy to try to find a new idiot law to break. Who wants to be a goody-good or an altar boy? Screw that.

So if you see the word pigs below, I’m referring to sex cops. Cops butt out of our sex lives!

Butthead, a commenter, linked to a Youtube video. I clicked on it but it was already taken down.

RL: What was on the video?

Butthead: Bare schoolgirl boobage. She was brushing her hair in the bathroom and her towel “accidentally” slipped for a second.

Well, that’s legal. It’s not CP. Tits are legal on anyone of any age.

Nudity Is Not Necessarily Child Porn

So is nudity, honestly, but that does get a bit trickier. There are sites all over the Net of teenage girls, probably underage but who knows, taking nude selfies of themselves in front of mirrors. A lot of them are in Russia. They’re actually a bit hard to find but if you know what you are looking for, you can find them. I’ve seen them before but I don’t have a teenage girl fetish, so it’s not big deal to me, and I haven’t been back. Been there, done that. As long as they are just standing in front of a mirror or on the beach with their clothes off, it’s not child porn, because child porn is a lot worse than nudity.

There was a site where a lot of teenagers were camming all the time, teenage girls and boys both. Fairly regularly, one of the girls would take off some or all of her clothes. You could see over to the side the people camming and how many were watching. One cammer would suddenly go from five to 50 to 100 viewers, and if you went to look at the cam, sure enough, there’s some teenage girl with her top off.

I did watch one video like that. Two teenage girls aged 17 with their tops off. Problem was every time they opened up their mouths, they sounded like 10 year olds. All this retarded high school gossip. Total turnoff. I went once and never went back. Like I said, it’s not my fetish.

I’ve seen enough naked teenage girls in the flesh back in the day for 10 or 20 lifetimes. There’s nothing special. It just looks like the body of a woman, same thing.

I will never understand why everyone is so freaked out about the Goddamned naked body of a human being, whether it’s a teenager or a child, no matter. A naked human being isn’t necessarily sexual. It’s simply the way we were all born. This idea that some photos of naked human beings are some sort of evil pornography is completely insane. And not to mention, it’s wildly puritanical and prudish. It’s downright sex-hating and anti-sexual.

“Lascivious Display of the Genitalia”

As long as there is no “lascivious display of the genitalia,” everything’s fine. Child porn must involve “lascivious display of the genitalia.” There’s a lot of uncertainty about what that means, but usually it means she has her legs spread or she’s masturbating. Or it could simply be a photo or a video where the focus on the photographic material via zoom lens or whatever is the genitalia. That would be considered lascivious display. For a girl, it would be a focus on the vaginal area. For a boy it would be a focus on his penis, particularly if it is erect. It all depends on the focus of the photographic material.

“If She Has Clothes on, It’s Legal,” until It’s Not!

If she has clothes on, it was traditionally legal. The FBI was quoted as saying, “If she clothes on, it’s not child porn.” This seems reasonable to me. How on Earth could a photo of any human with their Goddamned clothes on be considered the most evil type of pornography? That’s wildly priggish and Victorian right there?

You see, any possible photographic material is legal (not child porn) until one day the fed pigs decide the change the rules and say it’s illegal! And they’re always changing the rules. It’s madness and you would think it’s out and out unconstitutional because you never know when you are breaking the law. A photo that is legal one day when the fed pigs are in a good mood all of a sudden becomes illegal the next day when the pigs automagically declare it to be illegal!

Erotic Stories

For instance, pedophilic stories have always been legal. They’re all over the Internet. I’ve read them for a few weeks decades ago before I decided this was one perversion I’d rather not explore, and I haven’t read one since. On the other hand, I don’t really read written erotica on the Net anymore.That was more of a phase I went through in my 40’s.

There was a large site called Mr. D.’s which dealt in pornographic stories. I’ve been on the site and there was a Hell of a lot of pedophilic material on there.

What was odd was that many of the authors were women! Grown women, often in their 30’s or 40’s, with a husband and kids! A lot of them had photographs and biographies on their author profile. I have no idea why those women were writing that stuff except that perhaps more people are interested in that kink than we think. Indeed, 18% of men and 7% of women report pedophilic sex fantasies, and many of them have masturbated to them. The vast majority of these people are not pedophiles.

Anyway, Mr. D.’s  had been sitting up there forever with all that pedophilic erotica and nobody did a thing about it. In fact, the top OCD experts on  the world out of Phillipson’s office back east were assigning those stories as homework for people who had OCD with the pedophile theme, which is an extremely common theme by the way. I know because I spoke to one of their clients.

Well, the other day, the fed pigs decided to change the law again! All of a sudden, written pedophilic erotica was illegal! Mr. D. was arrested in Florida, and his site was shut down. They were looking at throwing the book at him too.

So the fed pigs decided to change the law on the fly.

The Sad Saga of the Black Cat Scans

For instance, as I noted above, the rule always was, “If they have clothes on, it’s legal.” The men who ran Black Cat Scans and their photographer read the law and felt that they were within the law with their hebephilic photos of fully clothed young girls posing in some very erotic photos. All of a sudden out of the blue, the fed pigs decided that if they have clothes on, it could be illegal sometimes!

They arrested the two guys who ran the site, both Jews by the way, and they also arrested the photographer, who seemed like a really good man. They threw the book at all of them. None of these men were pedophilic or hebephilic. The Jews were just out to make a buck like they always are, and the photographer just liked to take pictures.

The arrest and sentencing of the photographer was particularly controversial. Most of the girl models were out of Russia, and they had all been brought in by their mothers. They were all adults by the time of the arrests, and they were all unrepentant about their modeling. There were 20-30 Youtube videos of former models and their mothers protesting  the  arrest of the photographer, saying that the girls were not harmed, that they did not regret what they did, and that the photographer was completely professional. It is important to note that none of the girls were molested in any way, shape or form. I believe the mothers were even present during the shooting.

Just to show you how absurd the law is, Black Cat scans had been visited by 25 million (!) men, and I assume a lot of them downloaded the pics. In order to enforce the law, the fed pigs would need to arrest and throw the book at 25 million guys! Good luck with that.

There are still some Black Cat scans floating around. What anyone sees in those photos is beyond me. I’ve seen them but I don’t like them because they seem creeptastic.

Art Photography

There are art photographers like David Hamilton who took many art photos of young teenage girls. You can find those all over the Net. They’re perfectly legal.

Nudist Photos

There are nudist photos all over the Net with humans of all ages, including plenty of teenagers and kids, strolling or sitting around naked in woods, beaches, and whatnot. It’s all perfectly legal. They don’t seem to be very popular so I imagine there isn’t much of a market for nudist pics.

Nude Beaches

It’s also perfectly legal for minors, including kids, to be stark naked at nude beaches, at least in the UK. Teenagers and kids get to walk around naked and look at naked adults and the adults are allowed to look at the kids. Anyone can look at anyone all they want.

I knew a 29 year old woman recently who often took her two daughters, ages 9 and 13, to nude beaches. She was always bugging me to go with them, but I never did. She also often made perverted comments about her girls, which seemed weird to me. She actually asked me to move in with her the second or third time I talked to her, but she was pretty far away, plus she was kind of fat. But she was cute.

Medical Text Photos

Medical texts often have nudity, including closeups of genitalia. All legal.

The Problem of Having an Internet Flooded with Photos of Nude Minors

Be that as it may, a lot of hosts want nothing to do with any photos of naked underage teen girls or kids, so sites with this material, even nudist sites, are few and far between.

I’d like to keep it like this.

Could you see if people started posting this stuff all over the Net and all these porn sites sprang up with nude underage teenagers and worse, kids?

That might flood the whole Internet porn industry pretty quickly. I don’t know what do do about that, as it would make me uncomfortable to see all this sites out there with naked underage teenagers and kids. Also, it would cause a tsunami of outrage, and there would be all these calls to ban the stuff.

Sexting

By the way, a lot of that sexting those teenagers are outrageously getting arrested for is probably legal. It the girls and boys are simply sending each other nudes with no lascivious display of the genitalia, it should be perfectly legal. So it’s not illegal for teenagers to send nudes to each other or at least it shouldn’t be, but who knows how the pigs enforce the crazy laws in their area.

The problem here is that most of them are probably not sending legal photos. Have you ever gotten nudes from a woman on the Net? Hell, they send them out before the first date these days! More women than I can count have sent me nudes over the Net. They were mostly 18-23. I have a whole huge folder of them. Unfortunately, you almost never get to meet them. They just send nudes and maybe talk dirty and then take off.

Well, if you have ever gotten nudes from a woman, first of all, there is typically a focus on the breasts and there is absolutely a focus on the genitalia. Often it is simply a photo of her breasts alone or her genitals alone, usually a huge closeup of the latter. Yep, women focus that camera right on those parts of their body. Women are such perverts!

And men, well, what are the complaints that women make about men when men send nudes? Men don’t send nudes. They send dick pics! So many selfies that men send women tend to focus on the male genitalia or it’s simply a photo of their penis.

So probably most of teen sexting involves sending each other pics with lascivious display of the genitalia, and yes, that would be CP.

But we have to think about this in some other way. It’s insane to bust teenagers for sending nudes to each other. It’s madness. But what can we do about it? I say we let them do send the real thing to each other – lascivious display of genitalia, photos of them having sex, whatever, but they can’t put it up on the Internet.

The Ever-Mutating Rationale for Making the “Child Porn Du Jour” Illegal

The rationale for making child porn illegal – that the child is harmed merely by having their photos floating around for everyone to see – doesn’t seem to apply here. These teens sexting each other – are they being harmed by sending those dirty pics to each other. Generally speaking, no! Ok, so what’s the new rationale for making this stuff illegal. The pigs have to go back to the drawing board and say the old rationale for illegal CP doesn’t apply here and somehow some new rationale applies. But what exactly would the new rationale be?

You see what they are doing?

First they make a reasonable case for making child pornography illegal. It is a document of a very serious crime of child molesting in most cases. But that alone does not seem a good argument because there are videos out there of criminals murdering their victims live on video. Perfectly legal. So photographic depictions of crimes is apparently completely legal.

The other better argument is that the kid did not consent to being molested, and the kid is being harmed merely by having pornographic photos of them floating around. I actually agree with this, though the rationale du jour “the child is harmed every time someone downloads one of their photos” seems ridiculous in a philosophical sense. How exactly does that work. So a girl’s photo gets downloaded 1,000 times. Does she  suffer 1,000X harm? What if it was downloaded once? Does she suffer 1X harm? How in God’s name does the victim know how many times their photo gets downloaded? Does the crime go out in some metaphysical space and zap over to the kid’s head and ring up another download in their brain, harming them ever so slightly more with each download? Of course not. But that is what this asinine article implies.

In the case above, did the girl whose photo was downloaded 1,000 times really suffer 1,000 times the harm of the girl whose photo was downloaded once? That seems bizarre. What if the girl doesn’t even know her stuff is out there on the Net. Theoretically, she suffers absolutely zero harm unless and until she discovers that her photo is out there. What she doesn’t know can’t hurt her, right?

Riffing off the argument above that the child is harmed every time their photo is downloaded, is the girl really harmed ever so slightly more with each subsequent download? Why would she? She has no idea how often the pic’s being saved.

This argument sounds convincing at first until you realize it’s garbage. But for kids who know their photos are out there or for adults who know pics of themselves are out there, I agree that they are being harmed, assuming they don’t want them to be there. But what if they are perfectly happy to have their child porn on the Net? Are they still being harmed with each and every new download? Of course not.

This argument is full of holes, but it does work in a number of cases.

I would make another much better argument that society is harmed by this stuff too. Even if it’s on the Dark Net where hardly anyone but the worst pedophiles is looking at it, I still think society is being harmed. Even if someone has the photos taken by themselves on their computer and has never shown them to anyone else? Yes, I would argue that society is still being harmed. We simply cannot allow photographic documentation of children being molested, willingly or not, floating around in society. I do not wish to live in a society where this garbage is legal. It’s disgusting and outrageous that it even exists at all. Kids shouldn’t be molested and we should not take photos of kids getting molested. Because we don’t wish to live in a society where we allow this sort of perverse and revolting garbage occur or exist.

The Anti-CP Argument Mutates Again

But notice how that definition alone isn’t good enough? What about in the case of the Black Cat Scans? The girls were not harmed and in fact they are quite happy to have these erotic pics of themselves floating around. So the argument that the girls are harmed is garbage. Are the Black Cat scans photos of a crime? I certainly hope not. I certainly hope it’s not illegal to take photographs of clothed pubescents in dirty poses.

So on what grounds is it illegal? Who knows? Notice how they have to keep going back to the drawing board and inventing new and weirder and weirder reasons for extending the crime beyond what was intended? Perhaps it is harmful to society to let this stuff float around willy-nilly. That’s a tough argument because even I find that stuff repulsive, but I don’t think stuff really harms society. But I don’t want the Net flooded with it either. If it only exists in a very secretive niche websites, I don’t have a problem with it.

And the Argument Mutates Again!

Pigs wouldn’t be pigs if they only had one mutating argument for making something questionable illegal. The reason they’re pigs is because the arguments for the illegality of this or that keep changing, seemingly with the wind. With each new unannounced expansion of the law, new justifications for the material’s illegal must be invented. The fact that people have to wrack their minds to come up with some argument, any argument, for making something illegal implies to me that it probably shouldn’t be illegal. Crimes ought to be justifiable on their face. It’s illegal to take another’s life without cause. It’s illegal to break into other’s homes. It’s illegal to see dangerous drugs that cause death and destruction. It’s illegal to drive drunk and possibly lethally endanger other people’s lives and limbs. It’s illegal to steal other people’s stuff.

With each of those crimes, did we have to wrack our brains forever to come up with some BS reason for the law to exist? Of course not. In general, all of those things are illegal because the person or possessions of another is harmed to taken from them. In other cases, innocent people are being subjected to unreasonable harm to life and limb due to the irresponsibility of others. Sensible laws are about hurting, harming, or killing other persons, relieving them of their possessions, or unreasonably threatening their lives and bodily health.

So we see that the child porn argument mutates yet again!

What about in the case of Mr. D.’s erotica? This is even crazier. The Black Cat scans at least dealt with real humans. With written erotica we are not even dealing with that. We are dealing with people who literally don’t even exist. The fictional characters apparently being harmed in these stories aren’t real! So how could they be harmed? There’s just a bunch of words. No humans, no photos, just words. Any girls get harmed? Nope, there were no girls to harm! A written depiction of a crime with fake fictional characters? I assume you can write stories about committing disgusting crimes all you want to. It’s a pretty weird thing to do, and I worry about people who do that, but it would seem to legal under freedom of speech.

Is society harmed by allowing pedophilic written erotica to exist? I doubt it. Who even knows that those stories even exist on the Net? 1% of the population? Who reads them? Less than that. I would argue that society is not harmed by a bunch of silly words that no one reads.

Delphi Murders Update August 25, 2021

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This post once again will be limited to answering the endless false charges that are leveled at me. Since they’re all untrue, it is necessary to respond to them to set the record right.

I have a question. My enemies say I’m the worst person on Earth. Fine, maybe I am, maybe I’m not, who knows? But if I really am this diabolical monster that everyone says I am, why is it necessary to make up endless lies about me? If someone is evil, you just look at the facts of their lives, and their wickedness is right there in plain view. If all you have is made-up stuff about someone, I assume they’re not that bad.

Below, I am starting a new procedure where I don’t refer to the girls by name unless I have to. It will simply be “one girl was,” “there is a rumor that one girl was,” “a rumor says X was done to one girl,” etc. You can make your own minds which girl we might be talking about. We are doing this in order to be more sensitive to the memories of these girls and to their loved ones and people who care about them.

1. Modr2u on the LibbyandAbby subreddit has made a number of statements about the nature of my team.

Response: Over 230 people have paid to become members of our team over four years. The site was shut down by WordPress for violating their terms of service (the post was about feminists, not about Delphi or anything else). I was accused of inciting violence. I didn’t realize this violated the TOS, otherwise I wouldn’t have done it. I was not thrown off for “making up lies” or “lying about Delphi,” and anyway, WordPress wouldn’t care if I did. A lot of these people have dropped off or went away.

When the site went back up on my own server with a free speech host (it’s up for good now), I went back and emailed a lot of the old members and invited them back. A number came back but many others didn’t. There are not currently 230 members actively reading on the site. I have no idea how many members are currently active. Perhaps 30-50? No idea.

The site went to pay due to necessity. It was free for a while but we kept getting invaded by trolls, pests, haters, and worse, and everything we said got copied and broadcast all over the Internet. My users wanted privacy so we went to pay to keep the pests out.

Originally we went to $10.

But some trolls and enemies actually paid to join anyway, and they were a real problem.

Group members got very upset and demanded that the fee go to $20.

The request was made in order to protect their privacy.

We went to $20.

We haven’t had any problems with trolls or pests since. So say what you want about profiting, but the $20 entrance fee was demanded by my members. I hardly make any money off this anyway, so I don’t understand why anybody cares.

There is an accusation that we have a team of “super-sleuths” consisting of FBI acquaintances and former FBI, active duty LE, and professional private investigators. None of us have any FBI acquaintances, there are no former FBI agents on our team, and no one from the FBI has ever talked to us. We have never had any active duty LE or professional investigators as members. Yes, we have reported from “people close to the case” but that always comes from others, not us because we wouldn’t say it that way. Also we always report anything from “people close to the case” as unverified.

Instead of being made up of any of these people, we are nothing but citizen sleuths – amateurs – with the idea that there is power in numbers, as in “the wisdom of crowds.”

Almost all of us have no particular expertise in this sort of thing. At one point we had someone who worked in the prison system. We have a physician and a therapist. And right now, we have a retired homicide detective who worked 1,000 cases in his life. Of course, none of these people are paid. We do go on field expeditions, interview people, take photos, etc. We have gone on a few field expeditions to Delphi so far. Most of our best investigators are women, but I’m not sure what that means.

So far, a grand total of four members of the criminal justice system, including sheriff’s deputies and detectives, have talked to us. That’s all. Four LE officials in four years.

We have received testimony from two female search party members about the crime scene. They lined up very well although they had never spoken to each other and what they described lined up very well with crime scene photos. One of these women spoke to us through three different sources. All three reports from each source lined up very well, so her story stayed consistent.

We also have some official case documents. One of them is a search warrant for the Maxwell property. We’re not saying how we got a hold of it.

2. Modr2u said our Evansdale information has been made up out of whole cloth.

Response: All of the information below came to us from a law enforcement source close to the investigation (from now on referred to as LE Source A). These guys talk to each other.

Mr. X, who is LE’s main suspect in the Delphi Murders, is also suspected of killing the Evansdale girls in 2012. His roommate turned Mr. X in to police as a possible suspect in the Delphi Murders. He said that the voice was close, the clothing “looked familiar,” and the walk was “perfect.”

He also said he suspected Mr. X of committing the Evansdale murders because he and Mr. X had been living in that area in 2011-2012 when they were transferred over there as part of a job, possibly a packing plant job. He said Mr. X was living there at the time the girls went missing.

Mr. X had a white panel truck at that time. A truck of that description had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the girls disappeared. The suspect vehicle in the case was a white truck or a white van; however, it was only seen from the rear. If you view Mr. X’s panel truck from the rear, it resembles the suspect vehicle very closely.

Source for all the above information: LE Source A.

3. According Xanaxarita on the LibbyandAbby subreddit, I said a girl had a stake shoved into her body and was pregnant.

Response:

Pregnancy: There is a rumor that one girl was in the early stages of pregnancy, but we do not know which girl that is. This has been verified for us by JM who sourced it to a sheriff’s deputy in a nearby county. This rumor goes into the Verified category, with the proviso that the deputy may have been given false information.

One problem with the pregnancy theory is that we heard it a lot in the early days and then again a couple of years later via police from JM, but we haven’t heard much in a couple of years, though I heard it the other day from an excellent local Delphi sleuth. If a girl was truly pregnant, shouldn’t we still be hearing about it? This is what makes us a bit uncertain about this rumor even though it was verified to us by police.

Stake in a victim: There was an early rumor of a stake driven into one of the victims from above. We are not telling you which girl was referred to. The first report came from a local who somehow got a hold of “crime scene photos” and posted them to the Net for a few hours. He reported that the crime appeared to have Satanic or occult overtones and that the girls were posed.

He also said a stake had been rammed into a girl from above. I believe that others saw these photos that he posted. A couple of years later, we heard via JM, an excellent local sleuth, that a stake had been driven into one girl from above, just below her solar plexus.

The problem is we have heard nothing of this rumor since. We also have testimony from two search party members, and neither one mentioned a stake driven into a girl from above. Don’t you think they would have mentioned it? Had it already been removed from the girl’s body?

Would they remove it or would they leave it in for a while to preserve crime scene evidence? I’m sure they would have removed it when they went to remove the girl to the hearse. Hence this rumor has gone into the Unconfirmed, Dubious category.

4. Modr2u reported that I wrote on a Delphi post that “all women love me.”

Response: At my age, if only that were true! Actually, it’s never been true even in my salad days of youth. I said that most of the people I work with on this case are women, usually middle aged women. I get along very well with women and actually prefer their company to men. I know how to talk to and act around them, so this is an easy thing for me to do. You’re free to make whatever you want of that information. This is simply the way I run my life, and if it’s upsetting to you, too bad.

5. I said R U UP was written on the ground at the crime scene somehow, perhaps with branches.

Response: I never said that. A theoretical physicist (from now on the Physicist) did a video in which he revealed crime scene photos (which were indeed that), and he said those words were spelled out with sticks about the crime scene. I see what he could be referring to, but I’m not sure that anyone arranged sticks in that way. My opinion is he’s seeing things that aren’t there, so this rumor doesn’t come from me.

6. I said that dolls, a large plush bear, a sheet with a smiley face on it, an upside down cross, and a bottle of bleach were found at the scene.

Response: This is correct, but we have good sources for all of that.

A bottle of bleach:

  • You can see a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in BG’s left jeans pocket in the bridge video.
  • Two different female search party members told us an empty bottle of bleach was at the scene.
  • The physicist said he saw a bottle of bleach in the crime scene photos on his video, but I can’t see what he’s talking about.
  • LE Source A told us that an empty bottle of toilet bowl cleaner was found at the crime scene and this liquid had been sprayed all over the crime scene.

Sources: Four: BG photo on the bridge, two search party ladies, and an LE official, all match.

A large plush bear:

  • The physicist successfully isolated what looks to me like a large Valentine’s Day plush bear at the scene of the crime. I agree that that is exactly what it looks like. There are arguments that we are seeing things, but I doubt it.
  • One of the search party ladies, the first one to come to us (from now on SP Lady A) reported, “There was a large object at the scene, possibly a toy, that was so large that he could not possibly have had it with him on the bridge that day.”  We believe that statement is compatible with the photograph of the huge plush bear.

Sources: Two: SP Lady A and the Physicist’s video partially match.

Dolls:

  • Both search party women told us that there were dolls scattered all over the crime scene and there were also dolls hanging from trees.
  • LE Source A said there were many dolls scattered around the crime scene. “There were so many dolls it looked like someone had gone to the Goodwill and bought a bunch of dolls,” he told us.
  • A high ranking member of the investigation team said, “There was at least one doll at the crime scene.” He mentioned this to his friend at a party, and the friend talked to us.

Sources: Four: two LE officials, including a member of the investigative team, and both search party ladies, none of whom had met each other, all match.

A sheet with a smiley face on it:

  • SP Lady A reported that this was present. She told this to three separate sources.
  • The Physicist reported a sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene in his video, but I can’t make it out.

Source: One: SP Lady A.

An upside down cross:

  • SP Lady A told us there was an upside down cross at the crime scene. We don’t know what this means. How did she know it was upside down? Was it planted in the ground?

Source: One: SP Lady A.

A knife:

  • SP Lady A told us that one girl’s hand was wrapped around a knife, and the knife had been shoved either into her right shoulder or into the log next to her.
  • On the Physicist‘s video, one can clearly see a large knife stuck into either a girl’s right shoulder or the log next to her.

Sources: Two: the Physicist’s video and SP Lady A match.

R U UP? written in branches at the scene.

  • This is alleged by the Physicist in his video; however, I’m not sure that is real or if he is just seeing things.

Sources: None, unverified rumor with no supporting evidence.

7. Via Reddit, a criticism by Agent 847. I will give him credit at least for being a fair critic. He says that the Physicist‘s video is simply wrong. The objects are pareidolia and so-called girls’ bodies could not be the real bodies because they would have to be 20 feet tall. He also says that the “bodies” in the video are in the wrong place and should be 30-40 south of where they are located in the video.

A point on Robert Lindsay and his theoretical physicist’s photos:

I was very curious when I first saw those images, because they look like the real McCoy. But there’s no way to tell because it’s zoomed and cropped and altered from a larger pic or screen shot of unknown provenance. So I did some digging and found the physicist and watched them show their work.

Initially I found it compelling: it’s from the WRTV footage. It’s in roughly the right place. The bodies look consistent with some of the rumors about how they were found, etc. But he also sees a giant teddy bear, a t-shirt or tank top, and a bottle of bleach. A couple things bothered me:

One is the giant teddy bear. No. This is absurdly implausible, and causes all kinds of other things about the crime to not make sense. I see the same image he does, but I see something different that makes a whole lot more sense than a giant stuffed bear. Another thing that bothers me is the distance.

Several sources place the bodies roughly 50’-60’ from the water, in the center of the area marked by tape, among a dense group of trees. The position of the Lindsay/Physicist photo is deeper in the woods, closer to 90 or 100’ from the north bank.

But there’s a bigger problem: I was able to isolate the same image: but in context of the whole photo, they’re too big. My measurements aren’t exact, but the girls would need to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-18 feet tall to be what you’re seeing.

It’s a pareidolia. It’s just one that is eerie and uncanny as fuck because it’s in just about the right spot. But it’s not them.

The location of the bodies, which you can’t see in the helicopter footage (possibly because they’d been removed, are covered, or the level of detail just isn’t there) is @ 30-40’ to the South of the location Lindsay’s source uses, which happens to be exactly in the spot that all other sources acknowledge. In short: they’re too big and in the wrong spot.

Response: I don’t have the ability to take apart his critique about the “girls” being 17 feet tall in the video (hence it’s not them) or that the crime scene in the video is 40 feet north of the actual one. I’m not sure if the Physicist can answer that either. However, there are three reasons that I think his video is accurate. The Physicist reported, among other things:

  • Both girls were posed with their legs spread.
  • There was a large plush bear next to one of the girls, up to five feet tall.
  • To one of the girls’ right, there was a knife plunged into either a girl’s right shoulder or the log next to her.

No one had reported any of these things before.

Sometime later, we got a report from SP Lady A who described many things at the crime scene. This was followed up by a report from a second search party lady (hence SP Lady B) that matched the first lady’s report well. They reported, among other things:

  1. Both girls were posed with legs spread (Source: SP Ladies A and B).
  2. “There was a large object, possibly a toy, present that was so large that he could not possibly have had it with him on the bridge.” (Source: SP Lady A).
  3. One girl’s hand was wrapped around a knife, which was plunged into either a girl’s shoulder or the log next to her. (Source: SP Lady A).

As you can see, items 1 and 3 line up perfectly with the physicist’s video, and item 2 is a partial and possible match.

The thing is that neither SP Lady was aware of the Physicist‘s video, and the search party ladies had never met each other, so the physicist and the search party ladies all reported the same things independently. For this to have occurred by chance, the ladies and the physicist would have all had to make up the same lies or they would have all had to hallucinate the same things.

I do not believe that occurred. Because the SP Ladies’ testimony so perfectly matches what the Physicist described in his videos, we regard his videos as accurate. I don’t think quibbles about sizes of objects of locations of purported crime scenes are relevant in that case because the video has now been proven to be correct.

8. I am really two men named Ryan van Slooten and Cory Ahlm from Minnesota who met 10 years ago in college who together made up a fake person named Robert Lindsay who lives in California.

Response: No comment.

True Crime: Joseph Edward Duncan III

Originally posted as a repost from the old site in 2008. I recently looked over this old piece and I was surprised at how good it was. I think it’s time for a re-run. Feel free to comment. Warning: long, runs to 28 pages.

On August 27, 2008, Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to death by a federal court in Idaho after being charged with ten federal charges for the homicide of Dylan Groene, age 9, in Montana in 2005. He served 13 years on death row, but he died on March 28, 2001 of glioblastoma, a brain tumor, before he could be executed.

I don’t know any of the principals in this case, but Thrillseekerman knows Steve Groene and Chris Groene, Doperman knows Chris Groene and not Steve, and Sexmaniacman knows Steve Groene but not Chris. T-man went to elementary school with Steve Groene and his brother, Chris Groene. Steve Groene is the father of Shasta Groene, Dylan Groene and Slade Groene. I called Thrillseekerman, Doperman, and Sexmaniacman to get their recollections of these two guys, who I never really knew. Their recollections are at the end of the article.

Joseph E. Duncan III broke into the victims’ house on May 15, 2005, tied everyone up, and then bludgeoned Slade, 13, his mother Brenda, 39 and his stepfather, Mark McKenzie, 37 to death with a claw hammer. He took Dylan and Shasta so he could torture and molest them.

Police who came upon the scene were stunned by the sight. There was blood and gore everywhere, and the faces were nearly unrecognizable. One officer who came upon the scene was so shocked by the sight that he quit police work for months afterward. An APB went out for Shasta and Dylan.

Duncan took them in a stolen 2000 Red Cherokee jeep with Missouri license plates to a very remote campsite in the Lolo National Forest in Montana and kept them there for a few weeks, having sex with both of them and torturing Dylan. He made a video of the crimes, and the video was shown to jurors and those in the courtroom. He raped Shasta and forced Shasta and Dylan to perform sex acts on each other.

May 2005: Murder of Dylan Groene in the Lolo National Forest, Montana

“The devil is here, boy, the devil himself. The demon couldn’t do what the devil sent him to do so the devil came himself,” Duncan yells in one of the videos. “The devil likes to watch children suffer and cry.”

Duncan cracks sick jokes through the videos.

In one video, Duncan jokes, “They kidnapped me – they won’t let me leave.”

In another video, he cracks, “I shouldn’t be taking pictures of you pulling up your pants like that, young man – people might think I’m a pervert.”

In another video, Duncan asks the kids about their wishes. Dylan says he just wants to go home.

One video showed Duncan raping and torturing Dylan in various ways. At one point, he took Dylan into an old shack, where he forced Dylan to perform a sex on him and whipped him with a belt. Then he told Dylan to stand on a bench, hung a wire around his neck, and masturbated as he watched Dylan nearly die from hanging. “Then Jet took him down and said, ‘Wake up, wake up, wake up,'” Shasta Groene said in a police interview.

She said Dylan screamed when he woke up because he thought he had been in heaven. Duncan then offered the half-dead Dylan an opportunity to watch his “death” by hanging on tape. A little while later, he forced Shasta to drag the half-dead Dylan through the campfire with a rope around his neck, burning him horribly. Then Duncan “accidentally” shot Dylan in the stomach with a shotgun.

Dylan was alive and possibly could have lived for a few hours, though his guts were hanging out. Duncan decided that there was no way to save him, so he shot him in the head. It was later determined that he probably did not shoot Dylan “accidentally” after all. After Dylan was dead, Duncan chopped his body into little pieces and filmed himself forcing Shasta to throw the body parts on the fire. Then he forced Shasta to pick the body parts out of the fire and filmed that too.

Whew. Wow. Whoa.

This must set some sort of a record for evil, but I’m not sure. The FBI did say that this was the first time that they had ever heard of anyone murdering adults just to get at kids, so it does set a depravity record in that sense. Details of whatever he did to Shasta have not been made available yet, but she was definitely raped. Normally, in this sort of thing, the name of the living kid, Shasta, would be kept secret, but her name was already out there as an APB Amber Alert, so the cat was out of the bag.

I guess you are wondering why no one heard all this mess up in the mountains. The makeshift campsite is at the end of a very remote logging road. It’s a one-hour drive down a terrible road to get to the remote site at the bottom of a cliff. It seems like hardly anyone ever goes there.

There are a lot of remote places out in the Western forests where you can stay for weeks at a time and not see another human. One article said the video was shot at a cabin, but I think it was just a campsite. They also went to various other campsites and drove long distances while Duncan bragged to Dylan and Shasta about killing the kids’ Mom, brother, and stepdad.

July 2, 2005: Arrested in Coeur D’Alene, Idaho with Shasta Groene

Later, on July 2, 2005, Duncan went back to a Denny’s restaurant with Shasta in Coeur D’Alene, Idaho, where she was immediately spotted by a resident who went in and told the manager who then wisely called 9-11. It was 1:30 AM and the cops pulled in with their lights off. Duncan saw the cops and took Shasta into the bathroom with him. He came out later and the police quickly surrounded the table and asked him to come outside. Shasta was taken back to her father her Mom and stepfather were dead.

Steve was briefly considered as a suspect but then they cleared him. They told him that he failed a polygraph, but lots of innocents do. They also suspected Steve’s eldest son, 18. They gave him a polygraph also and told him he failed too. Good thing neither one gave a fake confession in the midst of those interrogations.

The son was also into drugs – I bet meth – had a significant criminal record, and was most recently in jail for burglary. He said that that imprisonment was going to make him go straight.

Brenda Groene and Mark McKenzie were also drug users, but they were primarily recreational users. Brenda was a good mother. Initially, drugs were thought to be involved in the murders. Meth and pot were found in the systems of both Brenda and Mark. The couple ran with biker types who are in abundance in this area. Brenda had a criminal record for possession of drug paraphernalia and had served time for this offense.

Robert Roy Lutner was an original suspect in the case since he had a criminal record for relatively minor offenses and owed Mark and Brenda $2,000. They thought he killed them over the financial dispute. Further, he had visited them on the evening of Sunday the 15th, when the murders occurred. He turned himself in immediately, passed a polygraph, and was let go.

After he took the kids, Duncan was spotted in a sporting goods store with them in Bonners Ferry, Idaho, asking for directions to Libby, Montana. An APB went out but they were nowhere to be found.

Soon before he was caught, a video camera caught Duncan and Shasta entering what looks like a 7-11 about 40 miles outside of Coeur D’Alene. The girl looks mad and has her arms folded angrily across her chest. They buy something, get back in a red jeep, and leave. This footage was not discovered until later. Soon afterward, they were caught at the Denny’s in Coeur D’Alene.

Police discovered that the man was Joseph Edward Duncan III, a 43 year old fugitive sex offender from Fargo, North Dakota. He had recently been charged with molesting a 7 year old boy he knew who lived near him. He was born, one of five in a military family, in Fort Bragg, Virginia, in 1963. His parents soon moved to Tacoma, Washington, where he grew up. He was described as lonely and displaced in high school, especially after his parents’ divorce in 1979. He soon dropped out of high school. He engaged in sex at age 8 with two of his sisters. They apparently initiated it. What this had to do with his later offenses, I have no idea.

1975: Age 12, Arrested in Tacoma, Washington for Rape of a 5 Year Old Boy

He committed his first serious offense at age 12, when he raped a 5 year old boy, but he was not caught. In this way, he resembles Ted Bundy, who probably committed his first homicide of an eight-year-old girl who delivered the papers in his neighborhood at age 14. Bundy was never charged with this offense.

1978: age 15, Arrested in Tacoma, Washington for Rape of a 9 Year Old Boy

By age 15, he was charged with raping a 9 year old boy and sent to juvey. There he admitted that he had bound and raped six boys already.

1979: Age 16, Had Already Raped 13 Young Boys in Tacoma, Washington

He later said had already raped 13 younger boys by the time he was 16.

1980: Age 17 Arrested in Tacoma, Washington for Auto Theft

The following year, he was arrested for stealing a car.

1980: Age 17, Sentenced in Tacoma, Washington to 20 Years in Prison for Rape of a 14 Year Old Boy at Gunpoint

At age 17, he was arrested, charged and sentenced to 20 years in prison (apparently as an adult) for raping a 14 year old boy at gunpoint. The tortures that he put the boy through were similar to those seen on the Dylan Groene tape.

At the time, he was diagnosed as a psychopath, or antisocial personality disorder under the current rubric. In my opinion, knowing little about his upbringing, he is a pure psychopath. This condition is largely genetic. They are just born bad from seemingly Day One. This condition is impossible to treat, though some of them burn out and often descend in alcoholism and depression in their 40’s. Duncan is clearly not one of those.

He was paroled 14 years later at age 33 and sent to a halfway house in Seattle. A man named David Woelfert had testified at the parole board that Duncan was no threat whatsoever. He had loaned Duncan $3,000 and had found a place for him at the halfway house. Woelfert was also homosexual, and for a while, Duncan and Woelfert had a gay relationship. It looks like Woelfert was conned too. In 1996, Duncan was released from the halfway house.

1996: Sentenced in Seattle, Washington to One Month for Parole Violation

Almost immediately after his release from the halfway house, he violated parole by using marijuana and possessing a firearm. He was given 30 days and released.

July 6, 1996: Disappearance and Subsequent Murders of Carmen Cubias, 9, and Sammiejo White, 11, in Seattle, Washington

Apparently soon afterwards, 9-year-old Carmen Cubias and her 11-year-old half-sister, Sammiejo White, went missing from the motel where they were staying with their homeless family. A while before, Duncan was living only three blocks away from the motel where they vanished. These girls later turned up dead, and they were definitely killed by Duncan.

The girls were last seen by their 16-year-old brother at 8:30 pm on July 6, 1996 after they left the Crest Motel in Seattle, where they were staying with older and younger siblings and their mother. The girls were used to be out at all hours and knew their way around the neighborhood very well.
They said they were going to the Taco Time where they were going to bum some spare change so they could eat and get some money for a pack of cigarettes for their brother. Apparently they never made it.

It turns out that Duncan has confessed to Shasta Groene that he killed two little girls in Seattle. He made the same confession to investigators, but he said he did not know their names. At the time of their disappearance, Duncan was living and working in Bothell, Washington, where the girls’ bones were found almost two years later in February, 1998, by a transient staying in an abandoned barn. They had both been murdered violently, but the details could not be ascertained. But both of their skulls had been crushed.

After Duncan was arrested for the Idaho killings, a woman came forward and said that she had worked at the Quality Food Mart in Bothell that summer. That summer she repeatedly saw a man she now says was Duncan come into the store to buy stuff accompanied by a frightened little girl, who she now identifies as Carmen Cubias. Once again, we see that Duncan kept his victim alive for a long time, molesting and possibly torturing them before killing them.

When talking to investigators, Duncan revealed enough details of the crimes, without confessing, to convince the cops that he killed the two girls. After he confessed, his lawyer convinced him to clam up about any other crimes he may have committed.

March 26, 1997: Disappearance and Murder of Deborah Palmer, 7, in Oak Harbor, Washington

On March 26, 1997, Deborah Palmer, age 7, disappeared on her way to school in Oak Harbor, Washington, about 50 miles away from Seattle. Palmer disappeared while walking the two blocks from her Kettle Street apartment home to school.

Duncan had an appointment in Seattle to take a polygraph test at an unknown time. Oak Harbor would have been a 1 1/2 hour drive away. Palmer may have been killed in Deception Pass State Park, near where her body washed up.

The week before, around March 19, Duncan had tested positive for marijuana, which would have violated his parole. Eleven days later, he quit his Bothell job, stole his girlfriend’s car, and fled his Seattle home for California to visit his father in Pahrump, Nevada. That was the very same day that Deborah Palmer’s body washed up on a Pacific Ocean beach seven miles away from Oak Harbor, and the story was all over the news.

She had been raped and strangled. The previous day, Deborah’s backpack and jacket were found at a gravel pit. There is no direct evidence linking Duncan to this homicide. There are also suspicions that a family member was involved.

April 1997: Disappearance and Murder of Anthony Martinez, 10, in Beaumont, California

After he fled to California, he killed again. This time, he took off from his Dad’s house in Vista and went to Beaumont, California, where he approached 10 year old Anthony Martinez and his brother who were playing in alley behind their home. He asked them to help find a lost cat, and they declined. Duncan then put a knife to Anthony’s throat and shoved him into a white car.

On April 19, Anthony’s nude body was found in a shallow grave 110 miles away in the desert near Indio, California. He had been raped and beaten to death and his skull had been crushed.

After his arrest in the Idaho killings, Duncan confessed to interrogators that he had killed a little boy in California. He also quite closely resembled the composite drawing of the suspect in the Martinez case. Cops then looked into the Martinez case and amazingly found a match for a thumbprint on the duct tape used to bind Anthony’s body and Duncan’s prints.

August 27, 1997: Sentenced to Three Years in Prison for Parole Violation in Kansas City, Missouri

In May, Duncan was back in Northern California. On June 2, he met Dr. Richard Wacksman (see below) at a coffeehouse in San Francisco. At this point, he seemed to have been living on the streets. Four months later, on August 27, 1997, Duncan was arrested by the FBI at his sister’s house in Kansas City, Missouri for a parole violation and sent to prison for three years.

At the hearing for the parole violation, a Fargo, North Dakota doctor, Dr. Richard Wacksman, testified that Duncan was not dangerous anymore and that upon his release, he could stay at Wacksman’s home in Fargo. The parole board disagreed and sent him away. Upon his release on July 21, 2000, he moved to Fargo, North Dakota, but I believe it was not long before he started killing again.

After his release, in 2000, he visited Wacksman at his home in Fargo. The neighbors found out about it and confronted Wacksman. Duncan did not return to Wacksman’s home, and Wacksman soon moved to Florida. Duncan then visited Wacksman numerous times at his Florida home, where Duncan liked to scuba dive.

I do not think this Wacksman fellow is a bad guy. Psychopaths are often very charming and have the ability to convince all sorts of decent people that they are really ok, including Dr. Wacksman. However, it should be noted that Wacksman, while married and with family, was bisexual. It seems certain that Wacksman and Duncan had a homosexual relationship.

After he moved to Fargo, Duncan began attending North Dakota State University there, working on a BA in Computer Science. He would have graduated in May 2005, but he decided to go on a homicide spree instead. At the university, he worked in software development for both the college and a local business called iCat.

He also worked as a teaching assistant at Edmonds Community College where he taught introductory programming courses. He frequented at least one Korean Personals site where he said he was looking for “something more than just sex.” At the time, he was also taking karate lessons at the university (photo from his karate class in Spring 2003). While Duncan was living in Fargo from 2000-2005, I believe that he did not stop killing.

February 12, 2001: Disappearance and Probable Murder of Steven Earl Kraft, Jr., 12, in Benton Township, Michigan

On February 12, 2001, Steven Earl Kraft, Jr., age 12, disappeared while walking his dogs between 8-9 PM about 1/2 block from his home. The dogs were found later, but Steven is still missing. Duncan may have been involved in this kidnapping and probable homicide.

On April 21, 2001, Duncan set up his Jazzi-Jet gay website on the Pridesites gay website. Although the links have been deleted, on one page he was shown in a black dress and makeup talking about how much he liked to get fucked in the ass. Oh, well.

Duncan talked about how much gay sex he had in Walla Walla Prison, getting screwed by 50 different guys in there, getting gangbanged once by seven guys, being the “queen of the prison,” and being owned by a great big Black inmate named “Al”, all while posing in suggestive gay poses. On another deleted photo, Jazzi-Jet was once again done up like a woman. In one picture, he was masturbating, but you couldn’t see that very well. He touched up one of the pics to make it look like he has breasts.

On February 12, 2002, Duncan created this online resume. He was obviously highly intelligent and it looks like he was also a good computer programmer (I never could figure out Java programming myself). In March 2002, he created this page of a fake Time Magazine and Duncan praising Arnold Schwarzenegger.

July 12, 2002: Disappearance and Murder of Russell Turcotte, 19, in Grand Forks, North Dakota

Russell Turcotte, age 19, a Turtle Mountain Chippewa, was last seen at a truck stop in Grand Forks, North Dakota, on July 12, 2002, after spending the night with friends in Fargo, North Dakota. He was returning to his home in Wolf Point, Montana from a Rainbow Gathering in Michigan.

Surveillance cameras have now revealed that Duncan was at that truck stop hours after Turcotte was there. Turcotte was hitchhiking with a backpack home on a desolate stretch of Highway 2 west of Grand Forks at around 2 AM. I believe he was picked up by Duncan and taken to a side road near Grand Forks Air Force Base. He was probably raped there. He was then taken to Devils Lake, 90 miles west of Grand Forks, where his partially nude body was dumped and covered with brush. His possessions vanished, probably tossed into one of the area’s many rivers and lakes. His skull had been crushed.

The previous day, his mother had wired him some money. He was living with a girlfriend and running low on cash. Months later, in November 2002, his skeleton was discovered by a rancher in a clump of trees.

Objections have been made to the notion that Duncan committed this crime. First is that he would have had to drive 85 miles north from Fargo to Grand Forks and then another 90 miles west to dump the body.
However, I believe that since 1997, Duncan had started killing quite a ways away from where he lived. His first two killings seem to have pretty close to where he lived. The Seattle girls were abducted while Duncan was living in Bothell, 20 miles away.

Deborah Palmer (assuming he killed her) was killed in Oak Harbor, 30 miles from his home in Bothell, and her body was found nearby. He’s clearly capable of driving 80 miles away from his home to kill someone. Similarly, Beaumont was about 85 miles away from his father’s house in Vista where Duncan was staying.

Anyway, the surveillance camera had Duncan at the truck stop within hours of when Turcotte was there, so the distance question seems to be ruled out. Furthermore, July 12 was a Friday, so Turcotte was last seen on a Friday night. I believe that Duncan picked him up hitchhiking about 2 AM on the morning of Saturday, July 13 and killed him soon afterward. At some point he drove 90 miles east to dump the body.

Duncan was a college student at this time and was probably working too. It’s certainly possible that he had the whole weekend off. He had lots of free time and was always traveling to the Lakes Country in Minnesota to go scuba diving. Also, Turcotte’s skull had been crushed in the same manner that Anthony Martinez, Sammiejo White, Carmen Cubias, Slade Groene and Mark McKenzie had been dispatched.

Another question about the Turcotte killing is that Turcotte seems old for Duncan’s tastes. However, it has been pointed out that the 19 year old looked very young for his age. A photo of him taken before his death seemed to belie that, but another picture taken by his girlfriend shortly before he died showed him very thin, unhealthy, and quite young-looking.

Hunter Bear, an American Indian retired university professor and leftwing activist, had a webpage up about Turcotte. Here is a description of who he thought the killer is, written in 2003 before anyone knew about Duncan:

I continue to feel that Russ’ killer is an Anglo, maybe in his late 30s or early 40s, a so-termed “professional” person with a quite good, reassuring kind of car and out-of-state license plates. It’s obvious that he is a criminal psychopath.

Not bad, huh? At the time he wrote that, Duncan was 40 years old (!), White, and though not a professional, he could certainly come off as one. It seems like he liked to drive nice cars too. About the out of state plates, I have no idea. Hunter Bear said that the cops did not try very hard to find the Turcotte’s killer, at one point saying that they had no interest in a routine store surveillance camera tape that filmed Turcotte at the last place he was seen.

Hence, the tape was destroyed. Hunter Bear made a good case that the population and the police in North Dakota and Idaho were very racist towards American Indians. We don’t see much of it out here in California, but it seems to be more of a big deal back there. Some people are still looking at Seattle, Tacoma, or Portland as the connection between the killer and Turcotte, but I am pretty certain that this is a Duncan crime.

This is a Web Archive cache of the original Jet Gazette, Jet’s own online magazine that he made all about…himself! This page is dated July 29, 2002, and that would have been about 17 days after Turcotte was killed.

March 26, 2003: Disappearance and Murder of Dalton Mesarchik, 7, in Streator, Illinois

On March 26, 2003, Dalton Mesarchik, 7, of Streator, Illinois vanished from the front yard of his home. His body was found the next day in creek. His skull had been crushed with a hammer. That’s Duncan’s style. In June 2003, Duncan began going on trips to Minnesota and Michigan to scuba dive. He went on dives all summer.

On October 3, 2003, Duncan was visited by three police officers who accuse him of harassing women downtown. The women knew who he is from the Sex Offender database, and they had photos of him. He was accused of repeatedly asking them out and not going away when they told him to. That doesn’t sound like much of a crime to me. The cops said they knew who he was and they watched him all the time. Guess they did not watch him enough. He wrote about this incident later on his blog, The Fifth Nail.

Here is the final edition of the Jet Gazette, with photos of his scuba diving trips and videos that he made.

February 15, 2004: Disappearance and Probable Murder of Justin Phillip Edwards, 13, in Casper, Wyoming

Between late February 14 and early February 15, 2004, Justin Phillip Edwards, 13, disappeared. He was living at R. L Mills Home, a state-run facility, located at 116 East “H” Street in Casper, Wyoming since the summer of 2003. He was 5′ tall and weighed only 100 pounds and was retarded. He had the mind of a 6 year old. In his blog entry of February 16, Duncan said he went skiing for the first time that weekend, alone. Some think he may have been involved in Edwards’ disappearance.

July 3, 2004 Molestation of a Boy, 7 and Attempted Molestation of Another in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota

On July 3, 2004, Duncan molested a 7 yr old boy and tried to molest another boy at a school playground. He had a video camera with him. He was not caught until later.

March 4, 2005 Charged in Minnesota for the Molestation Incidents

In March 4, 2005, Duncan was charged with molesting a 7 year old boy and attempting to molest the boy’s young friend in Detroit Lakes, Becker County, Minnesota. On April 5, a judge set his bail at $15,000. This was the July 2004 incident above.

The same day, a Fargo businessman, Joe Crary, wrote a check for that amount to the court and bailed out Duncan. Crary said he befriended Duncan when they both rode their bikes on bike trails in Fargo. Somehow, Duncan gave off the impression of being polite, soft-spoken, and seemed sincere about wanting to turn his life around. Duncan also seemed sincere that he was innocent of the Minnesota charges.

I will never understand how psychopaths fool people like this, but they do it all the time. The ability to con and lie with a straight face in these people is amazing. Crary is now maligned, but I feel he was just another good person that this psychopath conned. It should be noted, however, that Crary is apparently a homosexual who had a sexual relationship with Duncan beginning in early January 2004.

After being bailed out, Duncan made plans for his crime spree. He purchased night vision goggles and a video camcorder at a Walmart. He also purchased a shotgun, shells, and a claw hammer. On April 15, 2005, he rented a 2005 red Jeep Cherokee in St. Paul, Minnesota.

After the rental agreement was up, he never turned it back in, and on May 4, auto theft charges were filed against him. On the same day, the key tag to the stolen car was found in Bighorn Canyon National Recreation Area in Wyoming, so Duncan must have been here at some point in his travels.
Between those two dates, Duncan traveled all the way to the far southwest portion of Missouri, where it meets Oklahoma, Kansas and Arkansas. There, on April 27, he stole license plates off a vehicle and placed them on his vehicle.

Then he continued his travels. No one knows where he went during this period, but I believe that he was in Spokane using GPS to stalk young children at a preschool, Kindermusik, which has kids from toddlers up to age 7. While in flight, a warrant was issued for his arrest in Fargo for failure to appear in a court date stemming from the Minnesota case.
He stopped in the Wolf Lodge area eight miles east of Coeur d’Alene. This post from Duncan’s horrifying blog, The Fifth Nail, was somehow posted from Wolf Lodge just four days before he committed the Idaho crimes.

May 13, 2005 Murders of Brenda Groene, Slade Groene, and Mark McKenzie in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho

On May 12 or 13, he ended up on Frontage Road at the home where the crimes occurred. He spent the next two or three days scoping out the house, and on Sunday night, he entered the home with gloves, night vision goggles, a claw hammer, and a shotgun.

He pointed the gun and Brenda, Mark, and Slade and tied them up or forced them to tie each other up. Brenda Groene called Shasta down to the living room from where she had been sleeping. Dylan also came downstairs. Duncan quickly hustled Shasta and Dylan outside and into his van. Then he went back in to kill the others. With blows of the claw hammer, he dispatched them.

Shasta heard Mark scream, then she saw Slade try to run out of the house, wounded. He was hauled back in and dispatched. The kids in the van did not witness the killings, but Duncan later told them how he had killed her family. He told her that the name of the hammer was a Fatmax and she learned to call him “Jet” for his initials, Joseph Edward Duncan.

After his arrest, Duncan started blogging again with the help of others from inside prison. The blog is here. Here is an undated picture of Jet.
Here are two awesome time lines (Timeline One, Timeline Two) on Duncan’s life on the great The Cellar blog which is devoted to this case. This is a website Duncan made, the usual whining stuff about how terribly society treats convicts.

I interviewed my friends Thrillseekerman, Doperman, and Sexmaniacman about Steve Groene, the father of the three child victims and Chris Groene, his brother. All these guys, Doperman, Thrillseekerman, Sexmaniacman, grew up together with me in Southern California, and we all ran with the same crowd. They’re scattered to the five winds now, but all still keep in touch by phone and Internet.

I can’t say where they are, but they’re all still in the USA! I grew up with all of them, but I don’t remember Steve Groene or Chris Groene. I think the Groenes and I knew some of the same people, but I don’t remember the Groenes specifically.

Thrillseekerman shared his reminiscences about the Groenes:

Hi Bob, this case really wears on my mind. It’s amazing that I know this guy, and I know his brother, Chris, too. I haven’t seen Steve in 27 years, and I haven’t seen Chris in probably 25-26 years. Doperman knows Chris but I don’t think he knows Steve.

We all grew up together, Steve, Chris, Sexmaniacman, Doperman, and me, Thrillseekerman! And all the rest of the gang! And you, Bob! Ha ha! I heard about the case and saw the strange name, Groene, and wondered if it was him.

I saw his pic and knew it was him, though at the time I had not seen him in 24 years. He looked like he’d had a hard life; I don’t know if there is any better way to put it. His sister now says he already had cancer at the time. I don’t know enough to comment. Life’s hard on all of us in one way or another. Hang in there, Steve!

Steve was into drugs when I knew him, but then so was I! Ha ha! We all were! Ha ha! I think I went to grade school with the guy in Orange County and he was in my grade, but I’m not entirely sure.

I never really knew him that well, but I went to see him play with a blues band at a party in an industrial park one night in 1980. He’s a damn fine blues musician and I have good memories of that party. I was drinking Heinekens and later on smoking some dope.

Later I got to know Steve better, and somehow in 1981 I was buying Thai weed from him. I realize that sounds bad, but I was a dealer too! For many years! Ha ha. All of us – my friends and I – were drug users and dealers for many years. Ha ha! Plus, Steve sold me some damn good Thai weed too! Eat your hearts out, puritans!

Steve was working in the carnivals, traveling all around as a carny, was in with the biker crowd, and he was doing methamphetamine, but I don’t think he was doing very much. He was just a recreational user. Back in those days, the only people doing meth were bikers and carnies, people like that. Now meth is this huge deal.

He used to come over once in a while, mostly to sell me pot. I was just a pothead at the time. That’s all I know about Steve Groene and dope. Pothead, occasional meth user. But that was Summer 1981, and I never saw him again. I won’t guess about the rest of his life.

I remember he came over once. I was living in an apartment and there was this young guy staying there. He was really mentally ill and he needed a place to stay. He was living on the couch. Ha ha! There was a guitar case owned by this guy, a great guitarist who was going through a manic episode.

There were cigarette burns all up and down the case, and I pointed to them, shocked, then to the guy in the midst of the manic episode. Steve gave a smile, of sadness,  wisdom, truth, and life itself. And then he said, “That’s the blues, man.” That’s right, Steve, you got it, man. The blues is life, and life is the blues. Ain’t that so true now, though? Damn.

I realize that I may be trashing his reputation here, but Steve has already admitted to being a heavy drug user as a younger man. Besides, what’s wrong with being a doper? Ha ha! I’m 50 years old, and I’m still a stoner! By the way, can you get me any good pot? Ha ha!

I want to point out that Steve Groene was always the nicest guy to me, a real warm and kindhearted person, always was. I value that, and I’ll always remember him for that.

I also knew Chris Groene, too.

That handsome face, beautiful long hippie surfer hair, and words of honey – no wonder the girls ate him up! Ha ha! Chris was a doper too, a pothead! Ha ha! We all were! He was a juvenile delinquent as a kid, but hey, a lot of us were. Even me! Ha ha! A nice, friendly, charming delinquent. I think Chris was probably a better thief than I was, though. Ha ha! I never was good at stealing.

Chris was also a real nice and warmhearted guy the whole time I knew him. I guess he outgrew that delinquent stuff. I still saw him later, into the early 1980’s, and he was still a kind, warmhearted person. I understand he’s got a really good job now.

I see in a recent pic Steve’s got himself a really nice looking new girlfriend. And he’s still a blues musician, which he always was. He’s a damn good musician, too.
I’m amazed that Steve has appeared to hold up pretty well in all this. Two of his kids and his ex-wife were brutally murdered, and his daughter was kidnapped and molested. But in the last pic I saw of him, he seems to be holding up. I think I would have snapped a long time ago.

All of us, me, Doperman, Chris, Steve, and all our friends, and you, Bob! Ha ha! We were bad boys, rebels, longhairs, surfers, stoners, mavericks, and trillseekers. Badass middle class dopesmoking White boys! Ha ha! We were White Punks On Dope ! Ha ha! Those were the days, man.

I’ll always remember Steve and Chris Groene. Whatever else they’ve been in their interesting lives, they were never mean. They both have hearts as big as the ocean. You don’t see that a lot in this world. Even, with the ravages of time and an unknowable future, if my heart becomes cold and hard, there will always be a tiny warm place there set aside just for Steve and Chris Groene.

Steve and Chris Groene, presente!

Doperman reminisced about Chris Groene:

I was working at the local elementary school as a janitor when I was 16. It was 1974. One night Chris, then age 15, came up to me and wanted me to give him access to the auditorium so Chris could steal a microphone. I guess Chris was a musician too? He almost talked me into it, but I eventually chickened out.

Chris was more of a charming type, and he had natural good looks, really long hair, and he got all kinds of girls and women. He could charm the poison right out of a cobra. This dude had style, man! He was one slick guy! I liked Chris Groene, Bob.

He was always really good to me, even when he was trying to convince me to participate with him in a juvenile crime! I think he grew out of that delinquent stuff, and I hear he has a great job now. You go, Chris! A ghost from your past!

Sexmaniacman recalled Steve Groene. The only recollection he had was one night 30 years ago when he was out of mind on LSD:

“I remember one time, it was the summer of 1978, it was around 10 PM, and I was flying on LSD! I think I was with my buddy Craig L. Anyway, we were headed to this party at Alan B’s place. We came to the street where the party was, and there were cops there! I was on acid, driving a car, and I looked right into this cop’s eyes! With my huge saucer eyeballs! Scary!

Well, we went inside, and I was flying on fucking LSD! Oh man! Steve Groene was there! He had this big, friendly, warm smile, enough to light up the whole room, like always. It was Alan B’s party, an Italian guy. A hippie and an acidhead! Ha ha!

Well, I walked in and there’ was this beautiful Mexican chick, about 20 years old, sitting on the couch. She was kinda big, but not too big. Just big enough, baby! Lotsa curves! Well, she was looking at me the whole time. I was kinda looking back, but I didn’t really know what to do.

So after a while Steve Groene said, way too loud, “Hey! Sexmaniacman! Why don’t you get her a beer, Sexguy? She wants you to get her a beer, Sexman!” He was smiling and laughing, but he was also like, “You idiot! Pick up on the chick! She likes you! Go for it, dummy! Like, duh!” So I go and get her a Heineken. I forget what happened after that. I fucked up; I don’t think I even got her number. I was so stupid sometimes.

Later that night, I was in Alan’s bedroom. I told him I was on LSD. He said, “Hey, Sexmaniacman! Let’s do some more acid and go to Black Star Canyon and fry all night!” I opened up a box full of blue LSD tablets. But we never did it.

I love Steve Groene, Bob, I really do. He’s a good person, and his heart is solid gold. He ran with a rough crowd, and he looked like a pretty tough guy, but he was good people all the way. A shout out to Steve Groene! Blast from the past!

Energy Never Dies and Always Wants to Go Somewhere

I’ve been arrested by cops a couple of times, been in jail a few hours, and seriously hassled as in questioned for a serious crime and threatened with having a confession beaten out of me, so you could say I’ve seen cops at their very worst, and boy are they monsters, or at least they can be when they want to. Sadistic, monstrous freaks out of a de Sade novel.

I actually think they’re not that much different from criminals in terms of cruelty, sadism, and lack of morals. It’s more that they’ve taken all these antisocial and sociopathic traits and channeled them towards victimizing bad guys. I’m sure they get a moral superiority kick out of it too. I guess I’d rather have psychopaths channel their evil towards harming bad people than victimizing us good people.

Energy exists. It doesn’t really dissipate. Werner von Braun noted that there is no extinction of energy and matter in nature and that all energy and matter is simply transformed into other forms of energy and matter. In other words, nature knows no extinction. It only knows transformation.

The problem with energy is it doesn’t want to just sit there. Energy is movement and it likes to move. It gets bored if you sit on your ass all the time. So energy tends to move in particular directions into or out of our bodies. When it moves out of our bodies, we can choose where do direct it. Sublimation is a thing. Churchill could have been Hitler.

And as you can see, it’s not so much whether the particular energy in you is good or bad but more the direction in which you aim it, as in a prosocial way or an antisocial way. I suppose I’d prefer people to direct their bad energy in prosocial ways as long as they are going to push it out at the world at all.

Energy tends to go either in or out. As I noted, it doesn’t like to sit there. Energy comes in good and bad forms, and we all have plenty of both somewhere inside of us. Bad energy either gets pushed out at the world or gets shoved inside of oneself as self-hatred, self-abnegation, low self-esteem, depression, suicidality, etc.

In another post, I talked about sex energy and how it doesn’t want to stay cooped up either. Sexual energy in particular wants to go outside the body and attach to objects, probably because the very purpose of sex energy is to attach itself to an object. I’m not sure bad energy wants to do that. It wants to go somewhere, but I’m not sure it has a preference for where.

Alt Left: Humor As a Way of Dissipating Homosexual Feelings in Straight Men

Polar Bear: Being called gay, faggot, etc. often means nothing. It’s how Mexican guys say hola.

Sure. “Hey fag, what’s up?” We used to greet each other like that. I’d see a couple of my friends together and walk up to them say loudly great them with hearty cheer like long lost relatives, “Hey! What are you fags up to?” This always served to produce a lot of good laughter.

I was reading a story about two White guys in prison for selling LSD. They were basically good people as most such criminals are. They’re low in sociopathy. They just got caught doing something society doesn’t like is all.

One inmate came into another inmate’s cell. The first thing he said was, “Hey fag, what’s up?”

I thought about that and noted that that was the perfect greeting. Both of those guys are trying to stay straight in an environment where opportunistic homosexuality is everywhere. They’re also trying to stay masculine, to stay men. When straight men call each other fags in jest, it’s like rocket fuel to their masculinity. It makes you want to sit up straight. It hardens your body and sculpts your face like stone.

There’s no doubt a lot of what you might call “homosexual tension” in a place like prison or even perhaps a Navy ship. Men have sexual energy churning inside of them all the time, demanding a release. It wants to go somewhere.

I’ve recently thought that sexual energy always wants to go outside of the body and do what I call “attach itself to objects.” It’s always seeking some object to attach to. If there are women around, that’s nice for straight men’s sexual energy because the sexual energy attaches to them quite nicely. But if straight men are deprived of female objects to attach their sex energy to, their energy is going to wander around like a radio signal looking for a tower and not finding one. What does the signal do? It keeps wandering forever.

Lately I’m thinking that if there are no preferred female objects to attach to, straight male sexual energy will attach itself to the next best thing, male objects, perhaps in particular a pretty or effeminate man who looks and acts like a woman. Perhaps it may attach itself to a female child. Obviously it easily attaches itself to pornography; in fact, the attachment is almost too strong, like an addiction. Perhaps it might attach itself to an animal. I believe that 15% of boys raised on farms end up having sex with some animal by age 18.

So if you are in a prison, your straight sex energy will be floating around all the time, looking for a signal (a female) to attach itself to. Not finding one, it will have a tendency to try to attach to whichever other human objects are around, in this case a bunch of men. It matters not that this straight man is not attracted to men. It’s more a matter of his sex energy trying to attach to any suitable object around.

So there will be in the minds of many incarcerated men a tendency on the part of his sex energy to try to attach to the men around him. “Go ahead and do it,” the energy is telling him. “We have to do it with someone! Come on!” Many straight man, like the two men doing time for dealing acid above, try to resist this but this causes a lot of dissonance and tension. A good way to relieve this homosexual tension is by calling each other faggots. It takes the pressure away, like lifting a boiling kettle off a stove.

Also it keeps straight men straight. I had one group of friends who all considered homosexuality to be absolutely ridiculous and were always teasing each other on these grounds. It was all good fun and games until one day I realized that I could never have gay sex even one time because these guys had made it the stupidest, lamest, most asinine and unthinkably ridiculous behavior on Earth. Do it one time and you will be a laughingstock for the rest of your life.

I never really wanted to do it anyway as men turn me on 0%, but I used to think about it, and I think all straight men think about this at some point. “Could I ever have sex with a guy? Could I ever do it with a guy? Could I ever have gay sex?” Then they try to imagine it and see what comes up in their minds.

Frankly, if you offered me a gun and said, “Have sex with that man over there or I pull the trigger,” I’d say, “Shoot me.” I’ve now met 5-10 straight men who told me the same thing. They’d prefer to die rather than have gay sex. People fail to release the extreme revulsion straight men feel towards this type of sex. A recent study found that straight men showed more indications of revulsion to gay sex movies than to videos of live maggots. Gay sex is worse than maggots! That’s pretty bad.

You say, “Well, only gay men have gay sex,” But that’s not true. Throughout my life, I’ve met and known a number of basically straight men who hinted that they had had gay sex or simply came right out and admitted it. They were often handsome men, horndogs with high sex drives. One friend was a merchant marine. “Yeah, we had a fag on our ship. He liked to suck men’s cocks. I guess you could say he sucked a lot of cocks on that ship.” This shows straight men’s extreme capacity for gay sex, especially if they get to play the male role because apparently many to most of the straight sailors on that ship, including apparently my friend, let this gay men suck their cocks to relieve them of their sexual tension.

Straight men have a tremendous capacity for this behavior, even if they are turned on by men not at all or at most only a little bit. From the time he is an adolescent, a straight boy hears about other straight guys he knows, perhaps even his friends, engaging in this nonsense. A recent study found that 25% of males had engaged in homosexual behavior before 18.  93% of men are maximally attracted to women, so the vast majority of these men were basically straight.

Homosexual behavior among straight men is as common as grains of sand on a beach. In early adulthood, I saw idiotic straight men, including some pretty good friends of mine, doing this garbage quite a few times, typically when there weren’t any women around. They even tried to rope me in on it and threatened to beat me up if I wouldn’t join in the faggy fun and games! I was propositioned for gay sex by a few of my very best friends, too. I simply pretended that I didn’t hear them say that. I’m still not sure why they did that.

I figure most women have probably considered lesbianism too. Thinking “Could I do it with a woman?” and then trying it out in their imagination and see where it goes is probably a ubiquitous experience for women. The woman who have never done it have simply tried it out in their heads

 

Lie Down with Dogs, Get up with Fleas

In response to the Bold Shooter post, I would like to add a couple of things.

I thought the shooter was White, but it looks like she’s Black also. Perhaps simply of the more light-skinned variety with died blond hair. By her clothing and jewelry belt, we can see that she’s pretty ghetto. The victim absolutely did not deserve to die, but looking at her photos, she was rather ghetto herself, albeit of the higher class sort that likes to appear classy and moneyed. I’m not trying to say she was a bad person because I have no idea how she behaved in her life. Thing is you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Be careful who you befriend and hang out with!

The point is if you are involved in that ghetto culture at all as a Black person, you’re already in danger, and you might be a menace yourself. It’s not just that that culture is full of lousy and dangerous people. It’s more that even the better ones as perhaps this victim was are also in danger merely by being part of that culture. It puts you at risk just being in proximity to those people.

I have heard LE people say that many homicide victims were not particularly bad people themselves, but they were often hanging out in some pretty shady and dangerous places. In other words, a lot of victims do sort of bring it on themselves a bit by going out of their way to put themselves in harm’s way.

Of course I’ve done this myself hanging out in punk rock clubs and living a drug dealing criminal* for 14 years. But the White soft drug dealing culture I was part of was hardly violent at all, although once I bought thousands of dollars worth of pot in a garage from some ~18 year old Hispanic kids.

The pot had reportedly come from the Eme or the Mexican Mafia. It was quite scary but it was also an incredible danger rush of the kind that only committing crimes gives you. I also learned in living like that what an incredible rush committing crimes and being a criminal is. The danger and exhilaration rush, a mix of terror and excitement) is hard to match. I understand why men do it just for the testosterone rush and the bad boy credentials you get. I don’t know what to say except be careful and try not to victimize innocent people.

The thing is you start getting above street level dealing into say, selling pounds, and you are running with the big boys now, and things start to get shadier. Also these people often live restricted “Don’t want to meet any new people” lifestyles, and generally you hear about them all the time because you get your pot from them in a roundabout way, but then you almost never see them, and no way can you go over to their house and meet them. But generally the White pot-dealing culture wasn’t very dangerous even as you got into the higher levels. Whites just aren’t that violent. Even White criminals are not that violent.

My Life As a Criminal

I lived as a criminal for 14 years. I was a soft drug dealer who mostly sold pot and sometimes psychedelics. I didn’t deal with cocaine that much because as soon as that drug came out, it started getting a sleazy reputation and you ended up selling to addict types, which would make me feel guilty. Your buyers buy from you but resent you because you are the “cause of their drug addiction” because you get the stuff from them. Also the coke dealing scene was way more violent that the soft drug scene. The psychedelic dealing scene was very nonviolent.

I don’t feel bad about my past at all because we were hippies who thought the world would be a better place if everyone smoked pot and dropped acid sometimes. It was the Righteous Dealer thing. In addition, I wasn’t victimizing any innocent people because I can’t do that. I’m also quite proud of never getting caught. The rush you get committing a crime right in front of police (by, say, driving by police with a pound of pot in your car and them looking at you none the wiser) is hard to put into words.

I can also tell you that sometimes we got our pot straight from the police. And I had a relationship with narcotics detectives and turned in lousy people every now and then. I suspect they knew what I was up to, but if you turned in a scumbag now and then, they left you alone.

To tell you the truth, I’m such a good boy nowadays that I am terrified when I think of my past. I can’t believe I took the risks I did especially with the sentences they are handing out nowadays. I doubt if I would ever take risks like that again, or at the very least, I’d have to think about it real hard. Also I have far more to lose now than I did then. I did get arrested a couple of times on very light charges, but I’ve only spent six hours in jail, and it was long enough that my attitude is, “I ain’t going back.” I also sort of brought it on myself a bit by being an asshole and taunting and fighting with the cops like an idiot. I thought I was a badass back then.

It’s hard to describe how traumatizing it is for a middle class White boy to spend even a few hours behind bars. Plus some of the cops are really mean when they arrest you and some of the jailers are too. These cops were basically sadists in my opinion. Perhaps you have to be a sadist to be a cop. I have no idea. But I would think that non-sadist cops would be better than sadistic ones. My record is clean though. I only have one chickenshit conviction and I got it expunged. Summary probation is a joke, too. It’s not even real probation.

New Delphi Murders Update! July 22, 2021: Police Actively Considering That There May Have Been Two Killers in the Case

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Mr. X’s Stepson Bears a Shocking Resemblance to the Young BG Sketch

An interesting new theory has come up. It turns out that Mr. X has a stepson that looks remarkably like the Young BG sketch. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. He has the same first name and last name as Mr. X. However, his middle name is different.

Stepson X is Mrs. X’s child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. We say this because he has the same first and last name as Mr. X. We don’t know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. X’s. Therefore, after Mrs. X married Mr. X, they must have gone to court and had his name legally changed to Mr. X’s last name. This happens a lot in remarriages.

Now onto the match. We recently obtained a photo of Stepson X. We age  regressed his photo to age 17, which he would have been at the time of the crime, and it’s a perfect match. It’s long been suggested that BG used his “son”‘s photo, and talk of a “father-son kill team” was actually the first rumor about the killer(s), dating to 7 PM the day they were found. And it’s never gone away.

At the moment,  there is no evidence whatsoever that this young man assisted Mr. X in his crime. It’s simply a possibility, a theory. However, a much better theory is that Mr. X used his stepson’s photo as Young BG, the 19 year old Catfish Boy used to lure Libby to the trails that day.

We agree with Leaker that Young BG’s drawing is based on the photo of the 19 year old Catfish Boy that was used to lure Libby from Snapchat. We also agree with Leaker that the girls were lured to the site that day. In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had “inside sources.” They told us that their inside sources (plural) had all told them that “there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime.” So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague.

The stepson, even today, is a dead ringer for Young BG. We are concerned that Mr. X may have used his stepson’s photo, possibly without his permission, as the Catfish Boy used in the luring of the girls. At 17, he was the right age for a 19 year old Catfish Boy. In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. If Mr. X did that, we think that was a pretty lousy thing to do to his stepson.

On the other hand, there is a report from the south end of the bridge by a woman who said she saw Young BG there and scared him off her property. She said his eyes were “dark and evil.” It is unclear at the moment whether the Young BG sketch is from this witness or is the Catfish Boy used on Snapchat to lure in the girls, or if the drawing represents both the young man seen at the crime scene and the Catfish Boy lure.

However, the Young BG sketch was the first sketch drawn in the case and was drawn off of eyewitness accounts. It turns out that all of the other witness accounts of seeing BG – the 16 year old girl, the arguing man of the couple under the bridge (Daniel Pearson), and possibly Dan McCain – saw BG with the white scarf obscuring his face as can be seen in the BG video.

But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. First of all, it bears no good resemblance to Mr. X, the main suspect in the crime. So why does the composite differ so much from the suspect? It turns out that the composite was fake in a sense. The witnesses could only see the top half of BG’s face. The bottom half was covered by the white scarf. So the composite artist simply filled in what he thought the suspect’s face may have looked like based on the description of the top half of the face. It looks like he got it all wrong. That’s probably why LE was saying at the presser that Old BG was no longer a suspect in the crime.

They said that because it’s a composite that was junk from the very start, and further, it looks nothing like the main suspect. There is no good composite of the main suspect because no one saw BG with his face fully revealed. Hence LE is refocusing onto the Young BG sketch, who looks like both the young man seen a the bridge that day and the catfish boy used to lure the girls. Whether those are the same person is not yet known, but it is possible. At the moment, we have no idea that the boy in the catfish photo is the same young man who was seen at the bridge that day. Perhaps he was, and that would be an interesting theory. But there’s no hard evidence that it is true.

Allow me to explain. We also have zero evidence that BG used his stepson’s photo to catfish Libby. Nor do we have any evidence that the stepson was at the crime scene that day or participated in the crime in any way. Clearly someone who looked like him was both the Catfish Boy and was seen as a suspect at the crime scene, but perhaps it was not this young man. Perhaps Catfish Boy and Young BG are two different people. This is all very confused. Also, we have not yet confirmed that there was more than one killer involved in this crime, but see below for more on that.

Stepson X being involved in either of these two ways is simply a theory based on the resemblance to the sketch, we are not accusing this young man of anything, and we request that everyone absolutely leave him alone. We simply think that he ought to be investigated for possible involvement in the crime, unwitting or not. So he would be a suspect, but half of the men in Delphi have probably been suspects at one point.

Possibility of More than One Killer in the Case

There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. He said the notion of two killers “is still in the arena.” He also said, “This has been an active theory since the first day of the crime.”

He added that they didn’t publicize it because the town was freaked out enough by one murder, and they thought the idea of two killers would make people panic.

Also, LE seem to have an actual suspect in mind as a possible accomplice, as he said the possible accomplice is considerably younger than Mr. X and has “a much greater ability to run.” They don’t want him taking off. We have no idea who they may have in mind as the possible accomplice, however, the statement that the suspect is considerably younger than Mr. X adds weight to the notion that the Young BG sketch is based on a person who LE feels may have been accomplice to the crime that day.

It sounds like they don’t have enough to think this possible accomplice was actually involved, similar to the case against Mr. X. Instead, it has been an area of active investigation for four years. He’s a suspect, as Mr. X is, as so many people have been. They don’t even know if there were two killers. But Mr. X’s position as a suspect is really up to the level of POI (a higher standard), as they believe he committed the crime. Possible Accomplice is at the lower level of suspect, and it’s not even known if he was ever at the crime scene that day.

I have been sitting on this information for 5 1/2 weeks because I was afraid that releasing this information might make the younger suspect run, but I have decided now is the right time to release it.

Two Female Search Party Members’ Reports on the Crime Scene Line up Very Well

The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true.

Two female members of the search party contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40’s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30’s. Neither woman has ever met the other, so this is independent confirmation from two separate sources.

Both said that dolls were scattered around the crime. One said that in addition to dolls all over the ground, there were dolls hanging from trees. I’m not sure if the second validated the “dolls in trees.” The first woman contacted two separate team members in addition to the first person, so she’s told at least three separate people so far.

When I first heard these rumors from the podcaster, we were both laughing over the phone because it was so ridiculous and insane. Sure, it’s a horrible crime but this crime scene was so insane and unbelievable that it made you want to laugh out loud that someone who ever go to such deranged lengths to stage a crime scene.

Later I found that this same search party member had contacted two team members, and in addition, the second woman contacted one of the same team members. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first woman’s report. I will have to go back and look through my IM’s to see to what extent she corroborated the other woman. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least.

The other elements were are not sure they agreed on are: a giant plush toy animal, possibly a bear; a crucifix hung upside down; dolls hanging in trees; and a knife plunged into a log with one of the girl’s hands wrapped around it to make it appear she had stabbed the tree.

Was the Crime Scene Staged as a Murder-Suicide as a Sick Joke?

I suppose  the staging of the crime scene was also meant to stage a murder-suicide based on the suggestion that one girl hand stabbed the other in the jugular vein and the heart, which would have been plausible at least, and then stabbed herself all over her body, after which she would have cut her own throat, which is impossible.

She would also have had to stage herself as well as the other girl, lay out the smiley-face sheet, hang dolls in the trees and scatter them on the ground, and somehow place a giant plush toy at the scene,. all the while not leaving any DNA behind. And at some point in the process, she would have sexually violated the other girl with sticks and twigs, while later, she would have to violate herself in much the same way, and then she would have had to have jammed twigs and sticks into the many stab wounds in her body, after which she would have cut her own throat. Obviously none of this happened, but BG may have wanted to stage it to look like a murder-suicide as of a sick joke.

Hatchet May Have Been Used as a Murder Weapon in One Homicide

As we noted above, one girl suffered a grievous wound to the throat. We now feel that the cut to this girl’s throat was with a hatchet, although we do not have confirmation of this other than what looks like a hatchet in BG’s right jeans area and reports that investigators went clear out of the state to check out two other hatchet criminals. Why fly all over the country looking at hatchet criminals unless the crime involved a hatchet?

Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. You need a huge knife to saw someone’s head off – almost a sword – you can watch any of the beheading videos out there to be sure. Also, a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. But a hatchet blow sure would have. The report of the girl’s head being only attached by an inch of skin implies a single huge blow with a hatchet because this is the sort of wound a hatchet, not a knife, would have caused.

At Least Four Separate Sources Now Confirm the Dolls Rumor, Two of Them from the Police

In addition to the two search party members’ reports, we also have a statement from an LE source close to the investigation that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene, and both girls were posed and sexually violated. He said there were so many dolls that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought up a bunch of dolls.

So now we have testimony from three excellent sources – two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation.

However, I just heard via DDcups, a man from Australia, and an excellent poster on the Reddit Delphi subs, that he contacted someone who knew a Delphi police officer, and this person told him his police friend had stated that dolls were scattered around the crime scene. So we have more evidence, albeit the third-hand source we have never talked to.

So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. And as you will see below, we actually have five confirmations of the dolls story, three from LE and two from searchers.

We’ve Hardly Had Any LE Sources All This Time

Critics claim we have all these LE sources but we don’t. In four years, we only had two LE sources, and each of them told us one statement. We got these LE sources from local sleuth JM. This is what they told us:

  1. A sheriff’s deputy in a nearby town who stated: “One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy.” This would have been found on autopsy, and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? It said, “We have a secret” and the photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? If so, how did she find out? Girls age 13-14 are notorious for missing periods some months and may even miss them for months at a time. This is why it’s so hard to get girls this age pregnant. Girls stay in the “hard to knock up” stage from ages 13-15. From age 16 on, they’re fertile as rabbits. It almost seems you could knock them up just by brushing up agains them. This is probably evolutionary as pregnancies in 13-15 year old girls are notorious for having complications for both the mother and the child. It is not until ages 18-19 with the completion of the widening of the hips (Yes, girls’ bodies keep developing after 17) that a female is completely suited for pregnancy. From 16-17, females are very fertile but their hips are not wide enough to give easy birth to a child, hence the high rate of complications.
  2. The second statement was from an Indiana detective in another area, in this case Narcotics, who had seen crime scene photos and noted that both girls had been sexually violated with twigs, sticks, and small branches. So this rumor originally came from the police! Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. The detective had had a hard time sleeping at night because the case upset him so much. He finally broke down and told his wife about the girls being violated sexually by natural wooden objects from the forest. She added that in addition, one girl has stab wounds all over her body which in which these wooden objects were also jammed into. So here the first two reports we heard about this came from the police. Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said “both girls had been violated with foreign objects.” Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves!

First Leak Directly from the Investigation Confirms Dolls Rumor Once Again

But now we have a shocking new revelation. We just got our first leak from inside the investigation itself!

Yes, this is third hand We are very excited to report this news. The leak is from a very high-ranking person on that team. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high-ranking person. They were chatting at a party recently, and the friend asked the investigator about the dolls rumor, specifically asking if there was one doll or more than one doll at the crime scene. The man thought about his words for a bit before wording them very carefully. Then he said, “There was at least one doll at the crime scene.”

We now have three separate LE source both reporting dolls at the crime scene. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene.

Retired Homicide Detective Joins Our Team

In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! I spoke to him on the phone, and he’s a very nice fellow. Further, he knows the subject inside out. I can’t believe how any of these detectives do what they do. To me they are like magicians pulling rabbits out of hats. In the day since he’s joined, I’m already stunned at how much he’s done. Are these guys even humans?

PUA/Game: The Underage Girl Sex Scam

Dating sites are full of these scammers in the last few years.

A friend of mine almost got nailed for this. Admittedly, hers was a little different.

She out and out told him that she was 17, two weeks shy of her 18th birthday. AOC in California is 18. Well, to a lot of men, “two weeks shy of my 18th birthday” means you’re 18 years old. I don’t care that he did this. In fact, I worry if I would have enough self-control not to.

However, several years ago, a miracle happened, Jesus came back down to Earth briefly and dropped an 18 year old girl in my lap to be my girlfriend. Then he flew back to Wherever.

Truth is she was 17, two weeks shy of her 18th birthday when we started dating or hanging out. We held hands, put our arms around each other, hugged a bit, and kissed pecks on the lips, but that was it. We figured that was legal, but I was really scared to take it any farther at all. But she kept bugging me to take it further and it was really hard to say no. She ended up falling head over heels on love with me, wanted to marry me, have my kids, the whole nine yards, then three months in, she dumps me. Anyway, dating’s not illegal. Anybody can date anyone. It’s having sex that might be illegal

They figure, “Fuck it, she’s basically 18.” I have no idea how the pigs would treat it nowadays. I assume the FBI pigs would probably put you on the Sex Crimes most wanted list for doing it with a girl two weeks shy of her 18th birthday. That’s how deranged the pigs and the system are nowadays, all thanks for feminists.

I grew up in the 1970’s, and no one gave two shits about jailbait teenage girls. They were known as “dangerous” because they’re horny as Hell, don’t have a lot of experience, often think boys their age are immature, and not a few of them love men. Not boys, men. College age men dating high school girls was an absolutely normal back then, but at some point, you might want to knock it off.

They let you get away with it for a few years, but as the man got older, they started cracking down. I remember a case of a divorced 53 year old man who had with  a number of 15 year old high school girls in trade for pot and coke. Of course the little sluts knew exactly what they were doing. Most of them love to fuck and they were freely screwing this guy for dope of their own free will. No girl ever got harmed by this nonsense, which is consensual anyway.

Well, he got caught, and even though people were notoriously laissez-faire about this stuff back then. I don’t even recognize this planet anymore in regard to this issue as it seems like I’m living among pod people who are barely even and probably not human. That’s how different things are from 40 years ago. Anyway, this guy got three years in prison. Nowadays he’d probably get beat up as a “chomo,” but back then, prisoners were sane, and he’d probably be the hero of the prison for being an old dog and banging all those hottie JB’s. Yep, even prison convicts have gone insane. Back then, you were marked if you went after little girl children, but no inmate cared about jailbaits.

The interesting thing is that everyone in my family, including me, thought the guy deserved it. Three years seemed about right. There wasn’t really anything wrong with what he did, but we thought the age gap was too extreme. 18-23 year old guy and 15 year old girl, no one really cared. 30 year old guy and 15 year old guy would raise eyebrows, as it was very uncommon, but no one cared about that either. But 53 and 15? Not just one 15 year old girl, but several? Hey, wait a minute. There was something unseemly, disturbing, not quite right, etc. about it. Society has a right to any sort of reasonable morals it wants, and even back then, a lot of people thought 53 and multiple 15 year old girls went over the line.

See, back then, people were sane, not like nowadays when everyone’s a shithead. They believed in degrees and sliding scales and continua and extenuating factors and the spirit of the law, not the letter. Now everyone’s a black and white dipshit twitching with mass hysteria and wild-eyed with moral panic.

Here’s the write-up of the scam I found on the web. It matches what my friend went through.

1. You are on some kind of adult dating or chat site — either heterosexual or gay– where a person says they are over 18, and either sends you (or lures you into sending them) sexy pictures.

2. Then they say that they are actually 16, or 14, or some other age under 18.

3. Next, the “father”, the “mother” or a “detective” calls or texts you and demands money to keep them from filing charges. Often, the money is supposed to replace a “smashed phone”, “computer”, or something else… even a car that the “minor wrecked while going to meet up with you”. Sometimes they “send the minor to a juvenile military boot camp”.

4 The tip-off is that they want payment by Western Union, MoneyGram, iStore credit, Paypal.Me, Snapcash, Zelle, CashApp, money order, or gift cards BUT NOT by cash or checks. 5. Don’t buy gift cards and give them the numbers. Don’t Zelle or CashApp money. There is no minor child, no father, no mother, no detective, no wrecked car, no damaged garage door, and no ruined computer.

6. You are not alone. Questions about this scam come up several times a week here on AVVO.

7. Just to be clear: THIS IS A SCAM. THIS SCAM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. THERE IS NO FATHER, NO GIRL, NO FBI, NO DETECTIVE, NO COUNSELING, NO THERAPY, and NO EARLY TERMINATION FEES ON THE PHONE, and the “girl” does not have a hospital bill from “her” suicide attempt.

8. The best thing to do is block their numbers and ignore them. You can report them to the police for fraud and extortion, but without an ID that is a dead end. They use “burner” phones and spoof caller ID to make you think that it is the police number.

9. If you want to fool around with them, offer to send a check, or offer to meet them somewhere with cash. They WILL NOT give you their name or address, and will not meet with you. Green Dot cards & MoneyPak, Western Union, Target and Walmart gift cards, Cash App or Zelle, Bitcoin ATM machines, eBay, Google Play, iTunes, and Amazon prepaid/reloadable cards and the like are all ANONYMOUS ways to receive money, and the scammers will not identify themselves or they would risk being arrested for EXTORTION.

 

Delphi Murders Update May 29, 2021: Police Now Suspect That BG Also Committed the Evansdale Murders

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Shocking New Rumor Adds More Weight to the Connection between the Delphi and Evansdale Murders

As we noted in previous posts, observation of the blown up stills from the helicopter video show both girls’ bodies posed in a sexual tableau. A knife appears to be plunged into either one girl’s shoulder or the log in back of her.

We have been accused by the folks on the utterly worthless Reddit Delphi subreddits who won’t believe anything in life until there’s 20 controlled, double blind studies showing it is true that we are simply hallucinating things with our observations of these stills from the helicopter video. It’s nothing but pixels, they say. There are also the usual darker accusations of the photos being doctored, but we are used to that stuff. We didn’t doctor the photos as I myself don’t even know how to work a graphics program. The man who created these images actually works independently as a physicist. He would appear to be beyond reproach with an occupation like that.

If you think that interpretation is strange and we are just seeing things, note that our interpretation of what looks like a knife stuck into either the girl’s shoulder or the log next to it has been confirmed by a female search party member. This woman said that a knife had been plunged into either the girl’s shoulder or the log next to it. The girl’s hand had been wrapped around the handle of the plunged knife to make it appear that the girl had plunged the knife herself into what we now believe is the log. So we do have some independent confirmation of our interpretation of these photos.

We also felt upon observing the photos that both girls’ legs appeared to be spread and they had been posed in a sexual manner or tableau. This was confirmed also by the search party member.

In this photo, you can see both girls’ bodies very well. The one circled in green has obviously been posed in a spreadeagled fashion in a sexual tableau. The other girl is immediately to the left of her, and she appears to have been posed in this spreadeagled sexual manner also.

In addition, we still don’t believe it, but there does appear to be a gigantic stuffed animal placed next to one of the girls. You can see it for yourself in the photo.

Here is the absolutely insane photo from the helicopter footage of the crime scene, and, yep, that definitely looks like a gigantic stuffed animal. It seems to be holding something in its hand. If it is, then it may be one of those giant Valentines Day stuffed animals which often have a note in their hand saying, “I love you,” etc. We are not prepared at the moment to say that that is a giant stuffed animal. Instead we believe there was “a large toy, possibly a stuffed animal, that was so large that BG could not possibly have been carrying it with him on the bridge that day.”

The search party member did not specifically reference that stuffed animal, but she did say there was a very large “toy at the scene, possibly a stuffed animal, that was so large that BG could not possibly have been carrying it with him on the bridge that day.” So we believe that the photo is vindicated in a sense. At this point we feel that while a massive stuffed animal may not be proven, the presence at the crime scene of “a large toy, possibly a stuffed animal, that was so large that BG could not possibly have been carrying it with him on the bridge that day” has been proven.

Same image, zoomed. You can see what appears to be a white bra that the girl may be wearing. The red dot is the girl’s head, and the green dot is the knife that has been plunged into what we now believe is the log that her head is resting on.

We now feel that the knife is plunged into the log on which the girl’s head is resting, which gives us a tiny bit of solace that the murders were a tiny bit less awful than we had thought.

This photo shows a closeup of one of the girls’ bodies. You can see that her hair is reddish colored. The white area is her breasts, and for some odd reason, she seems to be wearing a bra, which conflicts with the testimony of search party members. The knife is highlighted in green.

The reason we feel that way is a new completely unverified rumor about the Evansdale Murders that states that there was a knife in a tree at the Evansdale dump site. If there was a knife in a tree at Evansdale, then that knife in Delphi is more likely to be stuck into the log than into the poor girl’s shoulder.

To sum up, a knife was plunged into a log in the Delphi murders. We feel pretty certain about that. A new rumor says there was a knife in a tree at Evansdale. As you will see below, LE now feels that BG also committed the Evansdale Murders. If the new rumor is correct, then knives were plunged into trees at both crime scenes! That’s breathtaking news!

A Brief Overview of the Evansdale Double Murders and Two Dead End Suspects in the Case

Via a newspaper article in the Indianapolis Star and an LE sources close to the Delphi Murders investigation, we have learned that LE now suspects that BG also killed the Evansdale girls.

First, an overview of the Evansdale case:

The Evansdale girls were found on the other side of a creek/river away from main park in Seven Bridges County Park although a significant distance from where abducted in Evansdale. They were taken quite a ways away and found much later. Regardless, the landscape is similar in both locations. In both cases, they had been stalked and taken off public trails before the bodies were found.

The girls were found in a semi-remote location. The park used to be a well-known camping area but was shut down years before, as it attracted some undesirable people (meth, crime, etc.). Delphi’s high bridge was likely known to more folks than people let on like Seven Bridges. The bridge had been there for about 100 years. I imagine kids have been going out there for decades as well as undesirable folks as well. I also imagine Seven Bridges has been used by hunters both in-state and out of state and campers as well.

The Evansdale trail actually wraps around a few streets after Myers Lake, crosses a river, and continues south. It’s a pretty long trail like Delphi’s. It can be seen form the interstate. There are signs for both Myers Lake and Delphi’s trails in each town and I believe also from both highways or overpasses nearby.

Law enforcement will never say that any two cases are connected unless DNA or fingerprints are involved. To say otherwise will sabotage the case in court if an arrest is made in one case but not the other.

Evansdale and Waterloo tend to bleed into one another as well as the city of Cedar Falls, which rests on the opposite side of Waterloo as Evansdale. The three cities rest along the Cedar River and seem to have grown into one another, which has created a larger metropolitan area.

Despite Evansdale having a population of just under 5,000, more than 100,000 people live in the immediate vicinity; giving it a small-town feel but having all the benefits of a much-larger suburbia.

The girls were abducted from Myers Lake, and they were found five months later at Seven Bridges Wildlife Park.

The remains had been somewhat shrouded in an isolated area of the park where foot traffic wasn’t a huge concern; in fact, investigators stated that the remains were placed in a location that someone would have had to have almost been on top of to notice. If anyone was walking a few feet away from the remains, they likely would have missed them.

The abduction of two children at once in broad daylight was such a rare offense that the FBI had only recorded roughly 15 similar incidents between 1974 and the date that the cousins went missing in July of 2012.

A suspect vehicle was seen at the scene were the girls were abducted. It was described as a large, white, full-sized, old-model SUV – possibly a Chevy Suburban or a Ford Bronco – which had been spotted by multiple witnesses near the crime scene between 11:30 AM and 12:30 PM on July 13th, 2012.

Three separate witnesses had seen this vehicle on Arbutus Avenue at around the time the girls went missing – which is located just next to Lake Avenue (where the girls had last been seen) as well as next to Meyers Lake (where their bikes were found).

Similarities Between the Evansdale and Delphi Crimes

The LE source below is an LE sources close to the Delphi Murders investigation.

  • The Evansdale crime was committed on 7-13-12, and the Delphi crime was committed on 2-13-17. The two dates are perfect reversals of one another.
  • The two dates – 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. Adding them together gives us 32, a significant number in numerology with ominous overtones.
  • Strange objects were placed around both sets of bodies. (Source: LE)
  • Girls were posed in both cases, in a sexual manner in Delphi and possibly in Evansdale also. (Source: LE)
  • The sets of girls in both cases were trapped at the end of a path from which it would be hard to escape.
  • There was a knife placed in a tree near one girl in Delphi. Her hand was wrapped around it to make it appear that she was stabbing the tree. There is a rumor of a knife in a tree at Evansdale too. (Source for Delphi: Helicopter video and search party member)
  • Two girls aged 8 and 10, and two other girls aged 13 and 14, abducted and killed five years apart. One group of girls is 4-5 years older than the other set of girls.
  • Both occurred on the 13th day of the month: Friday, July 13, 2012 and Monday, Feb 13, 2017.
  • Both crimes occurred in daylight hours (afternoon).
  • Girls were at local parks but in an area where they were separated from other visitors.
  • Both crimes occurred in tiny rural towns.
  • Small, inexperienced (in major crimes) police forces were first responders in both crimes.
  • State Rd 218 exists very close to both crime scenes,
  • Each crime occurred perhaps less than a mile from a four-lane highway.
  • Trails are located at both Monon High Bridge in Delphi and Meyers Lake in Evansdale, where it is known as the Evansdale Nature Trail/Cedar Valley Nature Trail.
  • The body types of one set of girls matches the body types of the other set.
  • At least one girl in each set of girls was an avid online communicator. In the case of Delphi, it was Libby.
  • At least one girl in each set lived part-time with a grandparent.
  • Both sets of girls’ bodies were found 50 ft. from a slow moving stream.
  • Bodies were left in depressions in both cases. The sets of bodies were difficult to see unless you were almost right on top of them.
  • Body locations in both crimes suggested that the suspect had a familiarity with the area surrounding the park.
  • Body locations for both crimes are fishing/hunting/outdoorsman spots.
  • “Bridges” exist at both locations.
  • Geocaches were hidden at Monon High Bridge, Meyers Lake, and Seven Bridges.
  • “Rails to Trails” is an active organization in both locations.
  • Outlets for the Weichman pig company exist in both crime locations.
  • Tyson pig slaughtering plants are present in or near each location.
  • Transco Railway products/services outlets exist at both locations or very close (Logansport).
The Jeff Altmeyer Dead End

In November of 2016, in the small town of Onawa, Iowa, a little over 200 miles to the west of Evansdale, two elementary school girls returned home in a hurry. They told their family that a man had attempted to lure them into a vehicle just moments prior.

Two of their older relatives and a neighbor decided to jump into a vehicle and chase after the vehicle that had attempted to lure the two girls, which was just now leaving their neighborhood. The car, a silver-gray 2004 Ford Focus, was easy to catch up to, but the driver tried to distance himself from the pursuing vehicle when he realized that he had been caught.

The car of young adults was able to keep pace with the man in the Ford Focus: a middle-aged white man with dark hair and a goatee, who appeared a little heavyset. When the vehicles pulled alongside one another, the man behind the wheel of the Ford Focus claimed that he was an undercover police officer and threatened violence against his pursuers. Yet they stayed on him for several miles, pursuing him out-of-town until police were able to show up and arrest the man.

The man’s identity was revealed as 58-year old Jeff Altmayer, who lived in Ankeny, Iowa. He had served in the National Guard between 1977 and 1983, and was by all accounts a pretty regular guy. He had been married for over thirty years and now had two adult children that had moved out of his house. He had spent decades working for security companies before becoming an independent security consultant. At the time of his arrest in 2014, Altmeyer was working as a traveling auto damage field inspector, which allowed him to travel through Iowa and the Midwest regularly.

Jeff Altmeyer was arrested and charged with trying to entice children – a crime that he had apparently been committing all over Iowa. His crimes occurred not only in Onawa – which is in Monona County – but also in Jasper and Grundy Counties. In fact, between May and December of 2016, Altmeyer had attempted to lure dozens of underage girls into his car; at times, actually succeeding. Some of these girls were let go a block or two away, but on at least two occasions, Altmeyer had sexually assaulted these victims, who ranged in age from 6 to 13 years old.

The Michael J. Klunder Dead End

For years, LE’s main suspect in the Evansdale murders has been Michael J. Klunder. In 2013, he kidnapped two girls in Dayton, Iowa, not far from Evansdale. He took two girls, but while he was raping and murdering the 14 year old, the 12 year old he took managed to escape. The 12 year old notified police quickly. I don’t have details, but Klunder committed suicide soon after the crime, whether due to police closing in on him or for another reason, I don’t know. Sadly, they found the 14 year old dead too, but the 12 year old escaped and is miraculously doing better than you would imagine.

He was linked to Evansdale right after he killed the girl and himself because it was a year after the Evansdale murders where two girls were kidnapped and murdered. It just so happened there were two people in the same area that were kidnapping and murdering more than one child at once. LE have now fully ruled him out as a suspect in Evansdale, and obviously he was dead by the time of Delphi.

Their new suspect, Mr. X, is a much better suspect for Evansdale than Klunder. For one thing, Klunder’s MO and the Evansdale killer’s were completely different. The MO of the Delphi Killer was much closer to the MO of the Evansdale killer, hence this is why LE now believe that BG killed the Evansdale girls too.

Alibi for Delphi Suspect Revealed to Be a Police Officer (Since Deceased)

If you recall earlier posts, we stated that LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders who we referred to as Mr. X. Of course, that doesn’t mean he did it. Cops pursue innocent suspects all the time in cases like this. One of the problems with arresting this man for the murders is that he was being provided with a solid alibi that he was in another town when the murders occurred. We always wondered what was so solid about this alibi.

It now turns out that it was being provided by a Delphi police officer who was a friend of Mr. X’s. I assume an alibi being provided by a police officer is solid. This alibi held for three years and 10 months until the officer committed suicide in Delphi, Indiana on December 20, 2020, only five months ago. So now the suspect has a solid alibi, but the alibi cannot be broken because the person providing it is dead.

No reason was ever given for the suicide. We believe the officer worked with the Police Rangers young people group. We can now reveal that the name of this man is Nate Miler. Here is his Facebook page.

Revelation about the Nature of Case Document(s) We Have: At Least One Search Warrant

We are now able to reveal that one of the case documents we have is a search warrant for the Maxwell property. We will not say how we obtained this document. In fact, perhaps that is not the only search warrant in our possession. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn’t. Who knows?

We can also reveal that the following information can be gleaned from this document:

LE is looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and/or film. Why on Earth would LE be looking for photos and video? They would only be looking for that if they thought BG had photos or video of interest in the crime. Which means they think he took photos or video of his crime. This ties in with a rumor, also validated by Leigh Kerr, that BG recorded his crime in a videotape, which he then sent to Abby’s phone soon after the crime was committed, maybe a few hours later. This seems to be a particularly cruel thing to do to a victim.

LE is looking for a gun in order to do ballistics tests on it. The only reason they could be looking for a gun is if a gun was used by BG in the crime. The only reason they would want to do ballistics tests is if they had a cartridge from the gun. This ties in with a rumor that a single cartridge was found at the scene. The document also notes that the gun is a rare model, possibly a collector’s model. The document may or may not refer to a .40mm handgun.

By the way, the leader of one of the Reddit groups also obtained this same document. They obtained it through a public records request.

People are wondering why on Earth we could have obtained a case document from someone who was once a suspect in the case. People have said that they have never heard of such thing. Well, when a suspect is served with a search warrant, apparently the suspect is allowed to retain a copy of the document. So there’s your answer.

Rumor That I Am Getting Trolled, Fed Bad Intel, and Directed in a Wrong Direction

This argument is laid out by the moderator of the Libby and Abby Reddit group. By the way, I am a member of that group, and I even post there sometimes. Funny no one knows who I am! She is not my friend at all, but unlike most such folks, she is actually somewhat fair-minded. Somewhat! I really don’t care if people like me or not as I have more haters than there are stars in the sky (you get used to being hated after a while), but I request that those who feel this way be fair-minded. Your adversaries rarely are, so I felt that her stance should be noted.

Here is the Reddit thread:

Poster X: Ok. I meant blogger RL. One of his sources for the wild signatures claims is a woman in the search party that found Abby and Libby. He says that was corroborated by another woman in the search party, but who knows?

I don’t think blogger RL would intentionally mislead people. I say this simply because I think he, just like anyone else, wants to be right at the end of the day, and if he’s misleading people, he’s ultimately going to look like a bit of a tool.

That doesn’t mean he’s necessarily getting good intel, however.

He claims he has access to court documents that someone who was investigated for the Delphi murders was given after they were covered, as a debriefing I guess? I’ve never heard of LE doing anything like that before. Seems unlikely when LE is so hush hush otherwise. Someone may be messing with him.

I think you’ve alluded before to the fact that it seems like someone out there is intentionally spreading disinformation. It sure does seem like that sometimes. People on the internet being sloppy or trying to develop theories is one thing. People who are genuinely trying to direct people in one direction or another is an entirely different thing, and it needs to be looked at closely.

Poster Y: Oh, one of the women who was very close to the scene was involved with talking to RL the blogger, I heard. I did not witness them talk first hand, but I heard she told him some pretty wild stuff that she was either trolling him with, or if true, is just flat bizarre.

Poster X: Yeah, if what she’s saying is true, then they need to find this sick SOB. They need to anyhow. But he is in a league of his own sick.

Poster Y: Need to be delicate here but good friend of mine who the woman knows and was following along this convo messaged me and said that none of the stuff about the dolls is true and backup proof. Robert Lindsey is getting fed BS by someone else, it sounds like.

Poster Z: I never did believe there were dolls involved.

First of all, this comment:

I don’t think blogger RL would intentionally mislead people. I say this simply because I think he, just like anyone else, wants to be right at the end of the day, and if he’s misleading people he’s ultimately going to look like a bit of a tool.

Of course! That’s so obvious, I don’t know why people can’t figure that out.

Next:

Oh, one of the women who was very close to the scene was involved with talking to RL the blogger, I heard. I did not witness them talk first hand, but I heard she told him some pretty wild stuff that she was either trolling him with, or if true, is just flat bizarre.

This is correct. In addition, this very same woman also spoke to another woman who I work closely with Team Member A (TMA). She is a woman in her mid-60’s. She told this woman all of the very same things that she told me. So that’s very good backup. The search party woman, Search Party Woman A or SPA, is in her 40’s and is a typical housewife type, the last person you would think would lie or flake about anything.

Need to be delicate here but good friend of mine who the woman knows was following along this convo messaged me and said that none of that is true about the dolls and provided backup proof.

Robert Lindsey is getting fed BS by someone else it sounds like.

This is the part that needs to be challenged. Supposedly a friend of SPA who talked to me now says that SPA was trolling me and fed me a bunch of lies.

Well, fine.

Problem is that SPA did not just talk to me. She spoke to me and TMA, and she told her all of the same things she told me. So she trolled both of us? Dubious.

In addition, a woman who I am very close to, Team Member B or TMB, also spoke to a search party member, another woman who is different from the housewife in her 40’s named Search Party Member B or SPB. This is a younger woman in her 30’s. SPB told TMB that she is finally going public with what she saw at the scene because it has been eating away at her for several years, and she had to spill to get some relief. SMB verified all of the points that SPA told me and TMA.

Now, even if the SPA both me and TMA (and keep in mind that she’s the last person who would do such a thing), everything she told us has been backed up perfectly by the SPB who talked to TMB. Ok, now SPB is trolling us too? Thing is, I am told that the SPA and SPB have never met each other.

And finally, note that SPA is said to be specifically trolling me about dolls being present at the site. Not only did she also tell TMB there were dolls at the site (specifically, dolls in trees), but SPB told TMB that there were dolls in trees at the site.

And in addition, as noted in other posts, we now have a detective in Indians who is feeding us information. He has never worked on the case, so he is just giving us what he’s heard, which is no doubt only part of the facts in the case. However, this detective specifically us there were dolls at the crime scene:

There were so many dolls, it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill and bought a bunch of dolls and strew them all around.

Ok, now the “dolls at the crime scene” rumor is backed up by an additional search party member and a detective who is privy to the facts about the case.

Still think I am being trolled and fed false information? I think not.

A Question about Mr. X’s Voice

In this Reddit thread, a poster who once felt that Mr. X was the suspect now says he doubts that that is true because Mr. X’s voice is a poor fit for BG’s voice.

Ok, valid complaint.

However, LE sources close to the investigation that a former roommate of Mr. X’s who lived with him during 2011-2012, presumably during one of the periods when Mr. X was separated from his wife, went to LE with his suspicions that Mr. X was BG. The roommate said that BG’s walk was a dead ringer for Mr. X’s walk. He also said the BG’s clothes “looked familiar,” that is, looked like clothes that Mr. X had worn. And finally and most importantly, the roommate said that BG’s voice was “close” to Mr. X’s voice.

So, we will beg to differ with the Reddit poster above, who by the way, we actually like.

Leigh Kerr Now Contradicting Himself on Mr. X

Sigh. I knew this would happen. Based on the information revealed by Leaker, he could only have been referring to Mr. X when he discussed the prime suspect in the case. However, Leaker has now come out and stated unequivocally that Mr. X is not the prime suspect. The link leads to a relevant Reddit discussion about this matter. We are quite upset at Leaker for flaking out on us like that, but we believe a ready explanation is available.

We think that Leaker is covering his tracks about Mr. X, possibly because he doesn’t want Mr. X to get hurt or harassed based on information that Leaker put out there. Nevertheless, Leaker is seriously harming his credibility by flaking like this, and we are not happy campers regarding this man. However, we continue to believe he is basically correct in his leaks despite his recent flakery.

In addition, keep in mind that it is not just Leaker that is saying that Mr. X is the key suspect. We also have an article in the Indianapolis Star and the detective mentioned above that have both verified for us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. So we’re not real concerned about Leaker flaking on us like that, although it shows immature and flaky behavior on his part to change his story like that.

2-13, 2:13, 2/13, 2/13

Remember when the FBI profile came out about BG? Remember when it said that “he may be unusually interested in numbers?”

In the Delphi Murders:

  • 2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. February 13 is 2/13. 2-13
  • 2:13: The girls were abducted at precisely 2:13 PM. We know this because we have an official case document that states this. The document states, for no apparent reason, that the girls were both abducted at 2:13 PM. The fact that LE states this on this important document means that they think this is important. 2-13 again
  • 2-13: Two girls were abducted; one of them was 13 years old, the other but a year older. 2-13 again.

In the Evansdale Murders:

The Evansdale girls were abducted on July 13, 2012. Two girls were abducted at once on the 13th of the month. 2-13.

Judging from the number sequence 2,13 repeating four times across the two murders and the absolutely incredible news that BG timed the abduction so precisely that he abducted them at precisely 2:13 in the afternoon, it does seem that either this sequence has some sort of meaning to him or he is just playing games with us.

In terms of numerology:

  • 2/13 added together gives us 6
  • 2:13 added together gives us 6
  • 2-13 added together gives us 6
  • Putting the sequences together, we get 666.

That is the mark of the Devil. I’m not saying this is what he was getting at. Instead I am saying this might be part of it.

Quite a Few New Rumors

We have uncovered quite a few new rumors from sources that have tended to be quite good in the past. I can’t tell you who these people are, but one is a woman named JM. JM also has LE connections, and she was the one who gave us testimonies from two LE officers, a sheriff in a nearby country and a detective working in Narcotics.

All rumors are unverified unless otherwise stated. The rumors:

  • The crime scene begins at the Robinson’s backyard (find it on a map near the dump site) and goes the length of a football field or 300 feet. LE feels that the girls were marched down from the Robinson’s to the kill site where they were killed.
  • Libby’s phone was found at the scene, but nothing could be obtained from it because it was destroyed. I assume that BG destroyed it. All of the information from Libby’s phone came from the Cloud.
  • Abby’s phone was also recovered at the scene. She may have hidden it in a tree.
  • BG wearing a watch on his right hand, among a few other things, indicates that he is lefthanded. Verified.
  • The bodies were discovered by following two sets of footprints leading down from the cemetery to the bodies. Wait a minute. Two sets of footprints? I thought there was only one killer. And why do the prints lead down to the bodies? You mean the bodies were carried by the men who left the footprints down to the dump site? Verified.
  • The boots seized by LE in the bomb threat raid on Indiana Packers are thought to be the exact type of boots that BG was wearing. IP boots are waterproof and extend up to the knee. This would enable BG to walk across the creek without getting wet at all.
  • I believe there may have been something said by LE about BG’s eyes being blue? Someone check me on this, please. At any rate, the woman who was walking her dog (Is that the woman who saw BG on the south side of the bridge at 12:30 PM?) said his eyes were brown with a hazel tint.
  • There is a rumor that an unusual knife was used in the crime. Detectives were seen asking around at local hardware stores in the weeks after the crime if anyone had bought a gut knife recently. The rumor is that an unusual knife with a curved blade was used. This ties in with one of the worst rumors of all, that one girl was stabbed her stomach/abdomen and she was partly disembowled. Please note that we have not been able to verify this rumor at all, so it is completely unverified. This may also tie into persistent rumors that one girl was in the early stages of pregnancy.  Nevertheless, it does tie in with the facts about LE feeling that a knife with a curved blade or a gut knife was used in the crime. The first rumor about police in hardware stores is verified and the rumor of one girl being pregnant is verified by a local sheriff’s deputy.
  • BG knew the bridge extremely well. Dan McCain said he walks the bridge all the time, and BG walked the bridge faster than Dan does. BG absolutely knew his way around the bridge and the general surrounding area. Verified.

The Daniel Nations Tie-In: Rumor Says a Hatchet Was Used in the Crime

This is actually some very shocking news, but it all makes sense. We know that for some reason, LE was very interested in Nations, who had been committing crimes involving hatchets. Indiana LE went all the way back to Colorado to talk to Colorado LE about this crime. We have been told that LE also went back to another state to check out another criminal who had been committing crimes with a hatchet. One wonders why on Earth LE is going all the way back to other states to check out suspects committing crimes with hatchets.

Well, now we have what may be the answer. There is now a rumor from JM above and now from a second source that a hatchet was used in the Delphi Murders. One shudders to think of how it might have been used. However, one of the girls was killed by a deep cut to her neck. Rumor says she was almost decapitated. Another rumor says that only one inch of skin was holding her neck on.

Now, the standard view all this time was that this attack was done with a knife, probably a hunting knife, possibly one of the five hunting knives BG has in that deer kit around his waist. However, if you know about knives and the cutting of throats, typically a homicide victim with a cut throat is not cut very deeply because it is very hard to make a deep cut in a throat with a mere knife.

If you have seen any of the Al Qaeda and ISIS beheading videos, you can see that huge knives were used to decapitate the victims. It’s dubious that BG had a huge knife on him. However, a single blow to a neck with a well-sharpened hatchet could and in many cases would indeed leave such a deep cut that one could nearly decapitate someone with a single swing. Although this is an unverified rumor, it does have the advantage of explaining the odd interest LE had in hatchet criminals in this case.

Chadwell Cleared of Involvement in the Delphi Murders

Chadwell is not considered a suspect in the Delphi Murders. That decision was made two weeks ago!

Via Leigh Kerr on Reddit:

Leigh Kerr
8 hours ago

Chadwell is no longer considered a suspect in the homicides of Abigail and Liberty. I mentioned that a couple of weeks ago on Facebook. Shortly after his arrest, I said I didn’t believe it would be him because he didn’t match the profile.

I figure that Leigh Kerr is correct on this, as he is on most things.

Good Transcription of the Girls’ Conversation Recorded on Libby’s Phone Before the Abduction

This comes from Abby’s mother, Anna. She was told this by a detective. I do not know whether she was played the tape or not – possibly she was. The source is Gray Hughes. Much as I dislike the man, he is very strict about the truth – far too strict in fact – but due to this, you can generally bet that when Gray decides that something is true, it almost certainly is

-Abby apparently looks at Libby and says “He’s right behind me, isn’t he?”

-Abby apparently hurries to other side of bridge.

-Girls discuss which way to go – two ways are mentioned.

-Abby says, “Is that a gun? He’s got a gun!” followed by “click” sound; the police told family that this is the sound of gun being cocked.

-BG says, “Hey,” followed by “Down the hill.” (Obviously we know he said “guys”.).

-There was no further recording that was clearly discernible.

Handy List of Warrants, Suspects, Deaths, Evidence, Etc. in the Delphi Murders

I got this from a Facebook group from which I am a member in good standing. Yes, haters, I am a member in good standing of a few Facebook groups. It was posted by a good friend of mine. She got it from somewhere off the web. Nevertheless, the information appears to be quite accurate. Hope you may find this useful.

Here is just a short list of warrants, POI’s, deaths, and craziness since the murders.

Delphi, IN Maxwell Residence – One of the first residences to be presented with a search warrant in the murders. James Maxwell is cleared.

Peru, IN Unknown Residence – Another of the early residences presented with a search warrant in the murders.

Delphi, IN Logan Residence – One of the first residences to be presented with a search warrant since the girls were found on the owner’s property. Owner was arrested for violating probation but was not home during the timeframe the girls went missing.

Flora Fire – Killed four young girls in November 2016. Still unsolved.

Logansport Fire – Killed six, including three children, in November 2018. Still unsolved.

Daniel Nations – Indiana transient arrested in CO for threatening people with a hatchet. Appearance close to first sketch. Cleared.

Thomas Bruce – Missouri Catholic Supply Store rapist and killer. Appearance close to first sketch. Cleared.

Paul Etters – Lafayette, IN rapist committed suicide during police chase. Appearance close to first sketch. Cleared.

Talmadge Jasper – Lafayette, IN murderer who killed his ex-girlfriend’s boyfriend. Appearance close to first sketch.

Garrett Kirts, Ashley Garth, Christopher Mathis, Jasmine Parker, Talitha Beckley – Newton County, IN murder gang who killed Nicole Bowen.

Garrett Kirts, Ashley Garth – Monticello, IN murder couple who killed Ray Hanish.

Ron Logan – Delphi, IN owner of property the Delphi girls were murdered on. Arrested for violating probation and incarcerated for one year. Cleared.

Charles Eldridge – Randolph County, IN man arrested for child molestation. Appearance close to first sketch.

Mark J. “Joe” Sandifur – Flora, IN man arrested for inappropriate contact with a 13-year-old. Appearance close to first sketch.

Jack Hewitt – Warsaw, IN Indiana State trooper arrested for sexual battery and sexual misconduct with a minor.

Kurtis Fouts – Delphi, IN Supreme Court Judge who stepped down after video released showing him with an escort. Also had an alleged adult mistress who he befriended at 11 years old. Appearance close to first sketch.

Lee Hoard – Delphi, IN prior Carroll County Sheriff named by a woman via her anonymously released journal released that detailed her statutory rape by this man, but there is no proof that he committed this crime. The woman has since died.

Daniel Doe – Rice Lake, WI man who murdered John McCurdy and Anna Downham and set fire to cover up the murders. Committed suicide in Peru, IN.

Ryan Starnes – Bloomington, IN Indiana State Trooper let go from his position after parents made complaint he was in a legal relationship with their 17 year old daughter.

Young Boy (name unknown) – Made a post saying he was with BG when he murdered the girls.

Gabriel Ellis – Kokomo, IN man incarcerated for child pornography and drugs. Resembles first sketch. Was also the last person Karenna McClerkin was seen with prior to her disappearance. Cleared.

Brian Phillips – Delphi, IN man arrested for calling in bomb threat at Indiana Packers plant.

Jason Wilhelm – Lafayette, IN man arrested in Key West, FL for rape in Indiana, firearm theft in Tennessee, and mentioned by the escort who brought the Lafayette sex ring to light.

Kevin S. Jameson – Lafayette, IN man arrested for attempted abduction of an 11 year old girl in Carroll County, IN. Previous sex offender on the Registry.

James Brian Chadwell (JBC) – Lafayette, IN man arrested after kidnapping, beating, and raping a 9 year old neighbor girl. Being investigated to determine ties, if any, to Delphi. Cleared.

Mark McClellan – Mother stated on social media that he is working with the FBI to solve the Delphi Murders. Nothing confirmed other than the original post.

Shawn Harmon – Continues to state that his father and his own son are the people in the sketches, and that his father is the man known as BG captured on video crossing the bridge. Neither father nor son involved.

Suspicious deaths:

  • Gas station attendant who said she saw MP purchase drinks for the girls the day they went missing.
  • Young girl killed accidentally by her boyfriend.
  • Young girl committed suicide on bicycle bridge.

Suspicious vehicles:

  • Black SUV with stickers on back window observed by Kelli German when dropping off girls.
  • White vehicle with temporary plates picture and tag number captured.
  • Suspicious vehicle located at old CPS building day the girls went missing.
  • Chevrolet truck parked at cemetery but recovered by PB who was part of the search.
  • Local church vehicle parked nearby the day the girls went missing.
  • Horse ridden by LM the day the girls went missing.

Witnesses at the bridge the day the girls went missing:

  • Dan McCain and FSG or Flannel Shirt Guy, McCain’s brother.
  • A woman on the south side earlier in the day.
  • A girl in the girls’ 8th grade class.

Known crime scene evidence:

  • Libby’s missing shoe.
  • Libby’s missing phone.
  • iPhone video.
  • Snapchat picture.
  • Victims.
  • Shirt.
  • Underwear in water.
  • Pristine area where the bodies were found.

Known virtual evidence:

  • Libby performed an iPhone reset one week prior to the murders.
  • Libby had an active Kik account.
  • Libby had an active Snapchat account.
  • Abby had a burner phone and tablet.

Alt Left: Happy Birthday, Malcolm X

Happy birthday Malcolm X.

I think it’s one day late, but oh well. His voice sure is great. I always turn him up every time I hear him on the radio. He was way too racist at first and he was an anti-White racist, but we Whites treated Blacks really bad back then, so in a way I’m a tiny bit sympathetic. I liked him a lot better when he came back from Hajj and renounced racism and adopted pan-universalism, which was sort of his message all along except it got clouded with his racism.

By the way, the New York City police Department knew about the plot to kill him and allowed it to happen. There was to be a NYPD detail at that venue that night when he was going to give his speech, but it was pulled at the very last minute so Malcolm had no security. Presumably the detail would have ideally been instructed about the plot and pre-empted it or they would have protected him so well that they would have prevented it from happening in the first place. This confession was made recently by a top NYC police detective who worked there at the time, and his story seems credible. I forget if the FBI was in on it too, but it would not surprise me. J. Edgar Hoover was a sonofabitch.

The Teenage Girl Sex Panic and the Law Bullshit

As you can see, in Matt Gaetz’ case, the whole case is completely fake. The guy literally did nothing wrong. Furthermore, he lacked mens rea, or a guilty mind, so he’s innocent on that basis alone.

He committed the crime of buying a teen whore, except she lied about her age, and told everyone she was 19 when she was really 17. Actually it looks more like 17 1/2 now that I’m looking into it. By the way, she’s still whoring away. Once a whore always a whore. As soon as Gaetz and friends found out, they got furious at her and ended all contact.

Buying a Whore Means You are a “Sex Trafficker”

At 17, in most states she would be legal, but even there, if you pay her, you just committed “sex trafficking.” Yeah, if you buy a whore, you’re a “sex trafficker.” What a bunch of crap. Because the state, in the midst of an idiot moral panic, decided that all teenage prostitution is “sex trafficking.”

Not just the pimps. Indeed, one can make an argument that most pimps are sex traffickers.

Sex trafficking was supposed to mean women who were sex slaves and forced to prostitute themselves and were not able to escape. This is literally the case with most pimps, though most whores are quite willing to whore themselves out. But most pimps won’t let them leave.

So anytime you see an hysterical headline about “sex trafficking,” it just means whores and pimps, which is like, most whores. Whores have had pimps forever. So there’s nothing new going on here, just the same old same old.

But now all teen prostitutes are supposedly being “sex trafficked” too because that’s how they wrote the stupid law in 2012. Even if they’re doing it on their own, which I assume many are. In that case, apparently they are trafficking themselves! See how none of this shit makes sense?

And now if you’re unlucky enough to buy the services some teen whore is freely offering you, instead of just buying a teen whore, you’re a “sex trafficker”! Yep buying whores is “sex trafficking”! Isn’t that stupid? I would say if you want to make a crime out of it, calling it “Purchasing an Underage Prostitute.” It shouldn’t be much of a crime really, but at least the law would make sense.

In many US states, you can freely fuck all the 16 and 17 year old girls you want, but as soon as you hand her a dollar bill (or I guess a penny) for her services, you broke the law! You’re now a “sex trafficker.” Isn’t that stupid? And you go on the idiot Sex Offender List as a “sex trafficker.”

Also, don’t take a picture of her. You can have sex with all the girls you want as above, just don’t take pictures of any of them. Because if you do, you “manufactured and possessed child pornography.” You know, when we made the kiddie porn laws, I don’t think this is what we were thinking of. And you go on the Sex Offender List as a child pornographer.

Kids are getting busted all over the country for manufacturing, distributing and possessing child pornography when they do their sexting. I don’t have the solution to teen sexting but this insanity doesn’t seem to be it.

By the way, those lists are getting really stupid. There are now 3 million people, almost all men, on these stupid lists. Anyone feel any safer? Somehow I think when we came up with the idea for these lists we didn’t imagine putting 3 million Goddamned men on the list!

By the way, if you commit statutory rape, you go on the idiot list too.

And most states have Sex Offender laws that make it almost impossible for sex offenders to live anywhere except maybe under a bridge. Which is exactly where most of them end up living. I’m sure that’s going to rehabilitate them real good and I’m sure they won’t be more likely to commit new offenses! The worse you treat these guys, the more the offend. Well, that’s the case with child molesters anyway and even with non-offending pedophiles.

These Sex Offender Lists and laws have gone completely out of control. I don’t know what to do about this either, but this ain’t it.

The Matt Gaetz Sex Trafficking Pedophile Bullshit

I really wish the Left would being so gay and faggoty about this stuff and quit calling men pedophiles for doing what comes perfectly naturally to them – fucking teenage girls.

Matt Gaetz is the Left’s latest obsession. Yes, we’re screaming that he’s a pedophile. And the government is going after him on bullshit sex charges.

Here’s what it’s all about. The allegation is that Gaetz paid for the services of an underage prostitute. He supposedly paid her for sex and her paid her to travel across state lines. Hold on a second. Suppose I have a perfectly legal 16 year old girlfriend. I buy her an airline ticket and now I’m “sex trafficking” her. The law says that if you reimburse her for sex in any way, it’s “sex trafficking.” So I buy my 16 year old girlfriend a hamburger and now I’m “sex trafficking” her. This shit’s getting stupid.

Anyway, once you dig into it, there’s nothing there. Yes, Gaetz and Greenberg, his proucurer, did pay for the services of this more than willing teen whore. But they didn’t know she was 17! She lied and told them she was 19, and I think she even had a fake ID saying so! Anyway she got uncovered by one of Greenberg’s friends, and Greenberg called her in and read her the riot act about how her lying could get a lot of men in trouble. At that point, both Greenberg and Gaetz cut off all contact with the girl. As any reasonable man would do, right?

So this is the charge. This little teen whore lied about her age, told men she was 19 when she was really 17, and guys paid her for sex. As soon as they found out she was underage, they get very angry with her and ended all contact with her.

Yeah.

This is what the fucking Feds (they’re just pigs too – in fact, they’re the worst pigs of them all) are going after Gaetz for. Fake bullshit or what? Even the case against Greenberg looks pretty flimsy.

Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?

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As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene.

You All Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?

Not a stuffed animal left at the crime scene.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, “That’s a stuffed animal.” If any of you all think that’s not a stuffed animal and it’s really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. How could that not be a stuffed animal? Any theories?

And that’s not even the start of the weirdness. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. But get this. That stuffed animal is sitting right next to the body of poor Abby. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (5’4?) is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. In other words, that stuffed animal toy is over five feet tall! Ok, that’s so crazy that it’s almost impossible to believe it’s true. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces.

A Second Search Party Member Comes Forward

As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman.

The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony.

In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. We now have two separate SPM’s both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. At this point, this rumor seems like it’s proven at least to my satisfaction.

SPM2 also reported that “there were stuffed animals at the crime scene.” There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. Only that there were stuffed animals. Note that she pluralized the noun.

Stuffed animals not a stuffed animal.

In other words, it’s now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. How many more than one? We have no idea.

Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. These two SPM‘s arrived at these conclusions independently. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. So we have three people who arrived at the conclusion independently that there was at least one stuffed animal left at the time. So that seems proven too. The two SPM‘s both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene.

As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. That seems proven at this point.

Search Party Members Told by LE Not to Talk about What They Had Seen

The inevitable questions arise. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now.

But now we have a response to that rejoinder. The two SPM’s discussed above have both told us that LE told them not to tell anyone what they had seen at the crime scene. I’m not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPM‘s.

Alt Left: Life’s Not About Who You Like – It’s About Who You Hate Less

I basically hate cops.

Except I hate ghetto Blacks way worse.

So in the rather disgusting hierarchy of hatred that masquerades as modern life, by default, I end up supporting the police, who I’ve hated since my ill-fated adolescence! Note that I don’t mind some cops and I actually like some, so it comes down to an individual basis.

With the choices we had this summer, how could I not support the cops? It was the cops and the Republican fascists versus ghetto Blacks and the Cultural Left intellectual abortion that clings to them, remora-like – the BLM boneheads, the AntifaVirus, and the Woketard crowd, with an emphasis on the particularly insipid and dangerous Critical Race Theory gang, which is even stupider and more dangerous than most SJW passions.

Of course CRT theory isn’t falsifiable, so it fails right out the starting gate without even getting to the hypothesis stage, but all Woke SJW Theory is like that. I always say that in the Sciences, you are either doing science or you are doing Politics, or doing as I call it “A Politics” or “A Form Of Politics.” Parallel to that, you are either practicing Empiricism, hopefully including Occam’s because without Occam’s there is no empiricism, or you are doing Propaganda. Science and Empiricism versus Politics and Propaganda. Part of the reason that modern life is so infuriating is that in our quotidian lives, we get far too much of the former and a serious dearth of the latter.

Pretty soon you have a landscape where Critical Race Politics is lining up with Q, and there’s pretty much nobody in between, all others having been shoved into one moronic corner or the other. That’s modern US politics – a boxing match of fucktards, the booby prize being control of this bucking bronco we arrogantly call a country.

So to my very own shock I was rooting for police all summer! And for the first time in my life I saw cops as humans and felt sorry for them. Imagine my shock to read polls that showed that 57% of the population disliked cops more than I did! Frankly, even I was and still am appalled at the anti-police sentiment in the US. It’s ridiculous. I will say though that a lot of good has come out of this. Bodycams, attempts to be evenhanded, taking police brutality seriously, making cops accountable, on and on. Speaking of, how bout next stop jail? They beat people up all the time in there for no good reason and not one damn thing is done. Cops on the street are controlled. Jails are The Inferno.

Life’s not about who you like. If it was, there wouldn’t be much to live for.

It’s about who you hate less!

Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven!

Long, 22 pages. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors – mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. If you can’t handle such material, don’t read!

The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case – Mr. X.

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On Accuracy

I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them.

Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Also, you develop better sources. We now have search party members who saw the crime scene; official case documents; the testimony of Leigh Kerr, a man who claims to have seen official case documents; accurate crime scene photos; and the best LE sources we have ever had. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. But now we have an excellent regular LE source close to the investigation giving us regular updates, the best LE source we’ve ever had.

Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower.

Qualification of Claims

You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls’ guardians. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims.

The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true.

Unverified but Likely. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category.

Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. Most of Leigh Kerr’s and the search party member’s testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative.

Unverified. Some claims are listed as unverified. These are simply unverified rumors.

Unverified and Probably Not True. This claims are quite dubious and we don’t suggest anyone put any weight into them.

The Uselessness of Most Delphi Murders Podcasters and Reddit Groups

Few of the illustrious Delphi Murders Youtubers has touched the real truth about this case as laid out in this website, probably because they are all narcissists who hate each other and hate anyone stealing their thunder. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? That’s because he was competition. See? These guys are mostly narcissists and they don’t believe in cooperation. It’s all about the zero-sum game. One person wins and everyone else loses. I like some of these guys.

John Kelly has some good information. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. Every podcast is all about them! Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting – an egomaniac – on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows.

I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours.

Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POI’s who are all ruled out. There is endless silly speculation in the comments about BG – “I think BG was a teenager…What if BG escaped on a hand glider?…What if BG is dead?…What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?…What if BG is really a woman in drag?…What if BG is Mafia hitman?…Bla bla bla bla.”

I’m sure it’s very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, it’s writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. Idle speculation at its finest. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. Otherwise why do we have religions? Why do kids play make-believe?

I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone.

The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. They’ve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. These are mostly hate sites. Little if any good information comes out of these places. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but it’s a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; it’s just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes!

R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their “no rumors or speculation” rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer.

However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. In particular, user/tobor is excellent.

The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and we’ve even filled in a lot of the blanks.

Questions Regarding My Credibility and Professionalism

Answers to questions about my credibility. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I don’t have to keep going over this stuff in every update.

Finally, after Four Years, Acquisition of Good LE Sources

It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. He’s bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. He is happy to do so. He has connections with current LE officers.

We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation.

Mr. X Is Innocent Until Proven Guilty

I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. No one knows if he did this crime or not. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t.

Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Twice they were wrong. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through.

Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasn’t even risen to that level yet. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know?

LE doesn’t have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, it’s awfully thin. In fact, the rumor is that LE simply does not have enough evidence against Mr. X to take the case to court. DA’s require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they won’t take it to trial. At this point, they don’t even have enough for an arrest.

Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. The judge would say you don’t even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. That’s very embarrassing.

Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused.

There are cases like this all over the country.

A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970’s. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now.

There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. They don’t have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims’ graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims’ families to offer “solace for their losses.” See the sort of games these guys play? A police chief in Martinez accused the man of committing these crimes, and the man sued the city and won $50,000.

This is why you don’t hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial.

And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category.

If Mr. X Were on Trial for These Murders Today and I Were in the Jury, I Would Vote to Acquit Him

Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. But my opinion isn’t worth anything. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Because it doesn’t matter whether I think he’s guilty or not. The state has to prove it. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. And with the evidence they currently have, they haven’t proven it. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. That’s the price you pay to live in a free society.

Time to Give up on All These POI’s

This is getting ridiculous. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest.

Ron Logan: Enough already. Give it a rest, dammit! How many times has he been cleared? 242? Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Ron’s land and killed them there.

Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? Stop. He’s innocent. Leave this poor man alone, for God’s sake. Hasn’t he suffered enough? No, he didn’t kill his own granddaughter. Come on, people.

Becky Patty: Obviously they’re not accusing her of the homicides! The accusation is that she “knows something” or “knows way too much” and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. I doubt it. No one’s been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. It’s as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. Of course she did. She still hasn’t been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness.

Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. It’s an understandable reaction, but they’re not pleasant to be around. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. I won’t reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. I will say that Libby’s birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so it’s not like they did a U-turn. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. Let’s hope they find some peace.

The last person on Earth to “protect the killer” is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul.

Derrick German: Libby’s father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. I don’t know this man very well, but he wasn’t in on this crime.

Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Kelsi’s DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and can’t keep her stories straight. I have no idea why she’s doing this, but it’s not because she killed her own sister. Kelsi German has been cleared.

FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldn’t use his real name, but he’s on everybody’s suspect list. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. Now he says he never saw BG at all. I guess he can’t make up his mind. He’s also thoroughly lawyered up, and he’s not saying a word. I get it. He’s a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Hey, it’s a capitalist country, right? The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logan’s land. Sure he’s a greedy businessman, but I doubt if he’s that greedy.

FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Not because there’s any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. I’d be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened.

Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. He raped women, not young teenage girls. He was the right age, but he doesn’t look like BG. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume he’s cleared.

CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. Lawyered up, not talking. He’s afraid he’s going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear.

CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Well, he’s the right age anyway. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wife’s alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. We all stumble over our words sometimes. He’s a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. Possibly works with kids. I’ve looked this man over and I can’t think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. His wife has taken to social media lately, pleading with people to stop harassing them and insisting he had nothing to do with this crime. Good advice. How bout taking it to heed, everyone?

Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. He killed a woman. So he’s a murderer. He’s in prison where he belongs. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, “He kills chicks! So that means he killed these girls because they’re chicks too!” Doesn’t sound like a logical progression of thought to me. Empiricism is a thing. Besides, he’s the wrong age, 27-28. BG is a 50 year old man. Give it a rest, everyone.

Brad Holder: Brad’s son, Jason, was Abby’s boyfriend. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway.

The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. And although he’s no no saint, I don’t think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. You write an article saying some guy’s not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? I don’t get it.

Clearing Up Some Recent Attacks on Our Theories

It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified.

Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. “Robert Lindsay” isn’t just one guy. “Robert Lindsay” is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. They all go off and do their own work. They have their own sources. On and on. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas.

So when you are saying, “No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents,” do you think it’s possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? Something to think about.

Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. Got it? Instead of bashing us, why don’t you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? Are they deliberately lying to us? If so, why? Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? Why would we do that? We don’t do that on here and never have. For one, it’s a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist – I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things.

Facts about the Main Suspect in the Case – Mr. X

The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. The motive was sexual. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide.

We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life.

These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession.

Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime:

Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collector’s item.

Members Only jacket, blue.

Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980’s – Dad jeans.

Indiana Packers boots.

Camouflage hunting cap.

Go Pro camera on waist.

Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives.

White scarf covering the lower half of his face.

Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*

Binoculars.**

Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.:

Birthplace: Illinois.

Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum.

Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Homeless for a period in the 2000’s, where he resided at a homeless shelter.

Education history: Primary and junior high unknown.

Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85.

Age at time of crime: 49-50 (uncertain).

Present age: 53-54 (uncertain).

Race: White.

Hair color: Dark brown.

Facial hair: Goatee or trimmed beard.

Height: Approximately 5’8.

Weight: Approximately 180.

Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14.

Sexual object orientation: Heterosexual.

Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. Lists a factory as place of residence.

Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years.

Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs.

Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek.

Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. Frequently hunted deer on Ron’s land. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand.

Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. At least two prior marriages.

Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. Ages approximate. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names.

Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him.

Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown.

Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. What that has to do with anything is not known. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly.

Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs.

Specific Information about the Crime Confirmed to Us by the Police

Doll thrown in with flowers at the memorial at the bridge. This is about a year after the crime, and you can see some of the flowers deteriorating. As you can see, a doll has been thrown into the mix. I don’t know what that means, but perhaps it is odd. Did BG put that doll there? He scattered dolls all over the crime scene, we know that much.

Numbers 1-4 were told to a retired detective who works with one of our team members us by an LE source close to the investigation. The LE source didn’t work on the case. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A.

Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them.

Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. The sheriff’s deputy did not work on the case.

Closeup of the doll at the crime scene. Maybe it’s something. Maybe it’s nothing.
  1. Both girls were posed. Keep in mind that they did not say how they were posed, if they were posed in a sexual manner, etc. Source: LE Source A (see above).
  2. Doll(s) were scattered about the crime scene. We have two LE sources for this information. The first source, the same as above, said there were quite a few of them. He said, “There were so many dolls scattered around that it looked like he had gone to the Goodwill store and bought a bunch of dolls.” This also answers questions about why the cops have been using phrases like “odd,” “peculiar,” “strange,” not your average crime scene,” “many signatures,” etc. It fits right in with all of that. The second source was asked if there was one doll or more than one doll and would only state, “at least one doll was found at the crime scene.” Sources: The first source is LE Source A. The second source is brand new information from a high-ranking figure from directly inside the investigation!
  3. A bottle of toilet cleaner was found at the crime scene. Presumably it was used to throw bleach over everything, which solves the riddle of why no usable DNA was collected in this case. Source: LE Source A.
  4. The girls were “violated with inanimate objects.” Source: LE Source A.
  5. Sticks, twigs, and branches were jammed into the girls lower orifices. Presumably this is what the “violated with inanimate objects” statement above refers to this. Note: A new rejoinder is that both of the girls were found clothed. This is not true. Libby was nude. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Sources: A narcotics detective in Indiana and the wife of a detective working on the case, who posted this on the Internet.
  6. One girl was in the early stage of pregnancy. This is one very old rumor that started up within a few weeks of the murder. The first person who told me that was a middle aged woman who lived in the area. Just saying that for everyone who accuses me of making this up. This rumor just would not die. We hated reporting on it, but it kept popping up over and over, so we had to keep reporting it. We were never sure if it was true or not, so it was always just another unverified rumor.
    We didn’t want to bring this up because we’ve caught so much crap for it, but we felt we had to because an Indiana LE officer stated to us that this  was actually true. When we get information straight from the police, we feel we must report it. This is not something we relish reporting.
    His exact quote was, “One of the girls was in the very early stages of pregnancy.” He did not state which girl it was.  We have an idea which girl it might be, but we are not going to upset people even more by naming the girl. If this is true, then the girl was 6-8 weeks pregnant, when pregnancy is hard to diagnose but can be confirmed on autopsy. Specifically, there will be a thickening of the walls of the uterus that can be determined at this time.
    Our information is that at least one girl was sexually active. We don’t know which girl that refers to. That’s all we know. One girl had PIV sex at least one time. This is important to know if there is a question of one possibly being pregnant because in order to get pregnant, you have to be sexually active.
    People are furious with us for reporting this because they say we are sullying these girls’ reputations, thereby disqualifying them for posthumous sainthood. We do not feel that inexperienced 13-14 year old girls have some sort of purity that can be dirtied, nor do we feel that a girl this age sullies her reputation by engaging in PIV sex. People who think like this are prudes, Puritans, and sex haters.
    We do not feel that it is immoral for 13-14 year old girls to have PIV sex or to get pregnant. It’s stupid for them to get pregnant, but it’s not immoral. ~15% of girls that age, and probably more, are already having PIV sex. Source: A sheriff’s officer in a nearby county.

Specific Information about the Crime Confirmed to Us Via Official Case Documents in Our Possession

Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. In addition, we may have more documents. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for.

A pair of binoculars. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerr’s testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime.

Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abby’s phone after the crime occurred are true. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victim’s phone is proven. This proves more of Leigh Kerr’s testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girl’s phones after the crime.

43 seconds of audio. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. But how could they possibly know this? Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls’ phones after the crime.

A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. The gun is a rare collector’s item, possibly a .40mm. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home.

Knives. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives.

Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killer’s clothes in blood.

Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. As you can see, the numbers are the same. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental.

Some Aspects of the Crime Scene Not Verified by LE But Instead Verified by Two People Working Independently and Coming to the Same Conclusion, One Sleuth and One Witness or Two Witnesses

Those aspects of the crime are the following:

Assuming that there is a giant stuffed bear at the scene – a big if – it would be one of these here critters, for sale in a…toy store? They do look rather cuddly.
  1. Both girls were posed with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing. Source: A female member of the search team and our analysis of the crime scene photos.
  2. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girl’s head. Source: A female member of the search team and our analysis of the crime scene photos.
  3. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. While we see a giant plush bear, that’s too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Source: A female member of the search team and our analysis of the crime scene photos.
  4. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. Source: Two female members of the search team.
  5. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. Source: A conversation with one girl’s guardian and a photograph of this victim’s funeral, which we have chosen not to release, backing up the guardian’s statement.
Everybody keeps asking where the giant stuffed bear is. Well, here it is. Straight from the crime scene photo from the helicopter. And to us that looks like a giant stuffed bear. It’s next to one girl’s body, and via measurements, we concluded that the damned thing must be 5 feet tall. If you don’t see a bear, you need to get your eyes checked.

We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girl’s guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo.

Here’s whole bunch of those bears mixed in with a bunch of humans.

In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Almost zero. That’s good enough for us to be probative.

One wonders, how the Hell does one cart a five foot bear to a crime scene? The bear comes in a totally flattened out and easily transported package when you first get it.

Interpretations of Some Aspects of the Crime Scene Photos Now Proven (Crime Scene Photos Now Proven to Be Actually That)

The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven.

Rumors That Are Now Confirmed Via LE Source A, an LE Source Close to the Investigation

LE Believes Mr. X is BG

Via LE Source A, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. All other POI’s are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever.

It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I don’t have to go to the police. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory

Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. They’re not looking at anyone else. They think he did it.

LE Believes that Bridge Guy (Mr. X) Is a Serial Killer and Was Also Responsible for the Evansdale Murders

Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. Much more on that below.

LE Believes There Are Similarities Between the Evansdale and Delphi Double Homicides

Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes:

  1. There was posing. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed.
  2. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around.
  3. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers.
  4. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene.

Unconfirmed Rumors Not Validated by the Police

The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true:

  1. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Source: A female member of the search team.
  2. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. Source: A female member of the search team.
  3. A girl’s hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. The knife in the log was located near the girl’s right shoulder. The girl’s hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Source: A female member of the search team.

Rumors About the Crime Scene Not Verified by Indiana LE and Hence Still Mostly Unconfirmed, with Varying Confidence Levels

Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as:

  1. Presence of a crucifix. Source: A female member of the search party.
  2. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Source: Leigh Kerr.
  3. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. Source: Leigh Kerr.

More Weirdness Abounds: 2/13, 2:13, and 2-13

This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13.

2/13, 2:13, 2-13. What is this guy, another Zodiac? Is he into numerology? Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses.

It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. And two girls were abducted there also. 2-13 again.

The DNA and Fingerprint Questions

The main suspect’s DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable.

BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. Kelsi has been cleared.

There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. That’s not very many. Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers.

These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. It’s a dead end.

About those fingerprints.

LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. They don’t say where they collected it from, but that’s an important question. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. They’re generally unusable. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints.

The Lady Walking Her Dogs at the Bridge at 12:30 PM on the Day of the Murders

This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. She described his eyes as dark and evil.

Quit Referencing LE’s Statements at the 2019 Press Conference (The “Fakeference”) As Factual

BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. You can tell by many things – gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Easy, they were lying!

Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid.

Not BG. Nope, nope, nope. How could anyone on Earth believe this is BG? Because the cops told you so? LOL. Quit listening to the police. They tell all sorts of lies as dirty strategy in extremely important homicides like this.

And at the end, Carter says, “He may even be in this room right now,” (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X.

The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat.

And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims.

And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is “both sketches at once,” obviously.

Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG.

Granted, we don’t have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerr’s statements. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources.

We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Can we prove it? No. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occam’s). Put the competing theory to the logic test. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? Get real. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. Hence, following Occam’s, our theory is the best explanation of the facts.

Mr. X’s Employment at a Packing Plant in Indiana and Possible Connection to the Evansdale Murders Verified by LE Source A

Via LE Source A, Mr. X ‘s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. The voice was a good match, the clothes “looked familiar,” and the walk was dead on. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there.

Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time.

If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale.

BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. And humans are animals too.

The Mystery of BG’s Indiana Packers Boots

There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, “Oh, this is nothing. Don’t pay any attention to that.”

It turns out that BG’s shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldn’t have gotten wet.

However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012.

Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime?

Weird Behavior of Mr. X Surrounding His Truck at the Crime Scene

We now have a better time frame for Mr. X’s truck being parked at the cemetery. Note that it was parked in head first. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. We don’t know why he asked permission to search Ron Logan’s land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team.

Not only that, but Mr. X’s alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends.

He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. We doubt if she did contact his wife. They weren’t that close.

After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but what’s the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? We would say it is low.

He parked 1,000 feet away from Ron’s door, almost a quarter mile away. Why didn’t he pull up to his front door? We don’t know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally don’t park a quarter mile away and hike in. We park right at the front door.

We also don’t know what he was doing searching down there that night. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. However, this early searching meant that he could use his “lost my keys” excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evening’s search.

It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. That’s a full 18 hours. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? It doesn’t seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time.

We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects.

Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. If he didn’t have his keys, he could not move his truck. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Did he eat? Where did he get the food and what was the food? Did he sleep? If so, where and when? Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? That would have been quite a problem. It doesn’t seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason.

But it’s even worse than that.

Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys?

We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. He stayed to guard his truck. We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there.

Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. I’m sure that was a LOL feeling for him. “These idiot cops. They’re swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards can’t figure this out.” We think he likes to fool and troll LE. “I’m fooling the cops, ha ha!” is the thinking.

Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? He had his keys with him, so why didn’t he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldn’t because he had lost his keys? LE asked him to move the vehicle. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him.

Three problems with that story:

  1. We believe he never lost his keys.
  2. We believe he never called the wife to ask her to bring a spare set.
  3. We believe there was no spare set in the first place.

At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. X’s wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because she’s bringing Mr. X his keys. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up.

There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. X’s truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. X’s truck was never searched by police.

Mr. X’s wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. X’s wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. X’s truck. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set.

We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logan’s land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors.

LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. LE doesn’t like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X.

The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. But the scanner doesn’t say she came to bring the keys. It said  she was coming to deliver the keys. We believe she never showed up, he never called the wife, he never lost his keys in the first place, and there was no spare set. We believe this because this is what we were told.

Mr. X’s Traumatic Reaction upon Discovering the Bodies Appears Staged and Fake

Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Like a coward, we would add. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. We believe that those reactions were overblown. No one else reacted that way. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is.

So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victim’s grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also “staged.” In other words, they were faked. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else.

We Don’t Have a Copy of the Gag Order Supposedly Issued about the Towing of a Truck from the CPS Building on February 14

People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. We have no idea why the order was issued. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor.

Nature of Case Documents in My Possession

We do indeed have documents from the case. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LE’s investigation of him. The doc is his property. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. There are signatures on the document. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official.  you’re smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping.

The man who owns the document is not happy with us going public with these docs. He doesn’t want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media.

Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. We obtained this document via a public records request.

We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case.

Mr. X’s Criminal Record

The only crime on Mr. X’s record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend.

The conviction is expunged. Expunged just means taken out of public records. LE still has access to the conviction. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction.

Delphi Murders Easter Sunday April 4, 2021 (with Major April 10 Update): The Weirdest, Most Insane Murder Scene of the 21st Century?

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April 8-9 Update: This post has received a massive update with new information on Mr. X’s past and the stunning revelation that LE suspects BG of the Evansdale Murders too!

Warning: What follows is horrifying information about the sexually-motivated double murders of two young teenage girls. There’s no way to pretty this stuff up, and if I did, I’d just be lying anyway.

Here we go with another update. Once again, I would like to thank R.v.S. and C.A., two of my very best friends who I have known for what seems like my whole life, or maybe it was just since college. I know these guys so well that sometimes I wonder if we are all the same person!

People are making statements that the statements in this article are due to me having “inside information.” This is accompanied by a  lot of snarkery and hostility.

The information below comes from three sources.

The first source is from a female member of the search party who saw the crime scene and discussed it with me.

The second source is photocopy(s) of official document(s) from the investigation that I managed to obtain.

The third source is a retired LE officer who who dug into the case of Mr. X for us. He still has a lot of current LE contacts, and this is where his information comes from. So this source is really current LE.

Debunking the Usual Nonsense about Me

Dealing with haters. Sigh. Here’s the latest.

You chose to lend credence to Robert Lindsay, who has literally confessed to being a pedophile.

What in God’s’ name is he talking about?! Of course I’ve never “confessed to being a pedophile.” Why would I confess to being something that I’m not? A pedophile is a man who is maximally attracted to girls under 13 and has little to no interest in mature females. Anyone who knows me knows that’s not the case with me. I love grown women. I can’t get enough of them. Little girl children? Ew.

Teenage girls are another matter, but that’s not pedophilia. I haven’t had anything to do with a teenage girl under 18 since I was 21, 42 years ago. I did have sex with underage teenage girls 14-17 for four years during the  ages of 18-21. More than I can count. I stopped at age 21 because I didn’t want to go to jail. You want to hold that against me? Be my guest. You want to call me “pedophile” based on that? Knock yourselves out.

I don’t approve of adult men having sex with teenage girls under the age of consent (AOC) because it’s illegal. In most US states, the AOC is 16 or 17. It’s 18 in a few states. My position is that in this environment, I advise all adult men of any age to not mess with girls under the AOC. It’s not worth it, guys. If these female minors are over the AOC, help yourself. Grab all you want. Problem is that while 16 year old looks fantastic, when she opens up her mouth, she sounds like a 10 year old. That might put me off right there.As I get older, I appreciate the wonders of older women more and more. In a lot of ways,  they are better than young women.

Apparently he is referencing this:

I was reported to the police probably 60 times for being the murderer or for being a “pedophile” (I wasn’t aware that was against the law).

According to Matt Sullivan, people in his wanted to hang me on the spot for this comment. I said that being a pedophile isn’t against the law. That’s a fact. Apparently that comment means “I confessed to being a pedophile.” One reason I quit doing these Delphi articles is because I got tired of dealing with idiots like this all the time.

Yes, I’m a Real Freelance Journalist

Among the many insane arguments against me, one is that I “pretend to be a journalist.” I’m actually trained as a journalist. I have a BA in Journalism from a state university in California. I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. Furthermore, I am a now a published author, having written a chapter in an academic Linguistics book on Turkic Linguistics published out of Turkey.

I don’t know what it takes to be a “real” journalist . But I would think a BA in Journalism would suffice.

If you are wondering how I come up with all these “inside sources,” keep in mind that I was trained how to obtain confidential documents, protect and cultivate sources, and do interviews, and I am very good at all of those things. There’s an art to this. We were also taught to source and label our sources things properly, and we had to take a semester in the libel law which was modeled on a law school course.

No, My Blog Was Not Shut Down by WordPress Due to My Delphi Reporting

A man named Eric Alter claimed to have gotten an injunction against my blog with WordPress. Supposedly this led to it being shut down. Mr. Alter filed no injunction against this blog with WordPress. WordPress took no action against my website in response to Mr. Alter’s complaints, assuming he made any to them.

Next, there are stories that this site got shut down by WordPress because I was making up lies about this case. That’s not so. WordPress never uttered one peep to me about my Delphi coverage. The site was shut down by WordPress, but it was because I violated their Terms of Service in a post I made about feminists. I didn’t even know what WordPress‘ TOS were, as I had never read them.

Dead Rumors and Screams in the Night

More BS. There is a report on Reddit that I am still pushing a theory that the girls were garroted. It is said that I “made up” this story. True, that was a rumor floating around for a while, but we junked that years ago. The theory that the girls were garroted is a dead rumor, dead for over four years now. 

There is a report on Reddit that I reported a scream was heard in the night. They say I “made up” this story. For the hundredth time, I’m a professional journalist, and I don’t make up facts about this crime case. That’s a career-ender and I take my journalistic ethics very seriously. I do not recall ever reporting such a thing.

However, I have now seen references to reports of screams heard by the bridge at 2 AM. It is also said that Libby’s phone, previously dead, started pinging again right around this time. That means someone had Libby’s phone and turned it on or recharged it after the charge went out. If the latter is true, it is quite remarkable, but both the screams and the phone pinging at 2 AM are unverified rumors at this point.

On the other hand, Leigh Kerr did report that there is a scream on Libby’s audio recording followed by a thud. The theory is that this is Abby screaming right before BG hits on her on the head with a blunt object, no doubt the butt of that gun he has on him. Poor girl! So it turns out that if Leaker is correct, and I regard him as credible, there was indeed a scream soon after the girls were abducted, probably at the crime scene.

I can think of how this scene might have unfolded:

He got them to the kill zone, and he had them both on the ground with their hands behind their backs handcuffed. We know this because of the dirt under Libby’s fingernails. He was controlling them with the gun in his right pocket. He said you scream or yell one time, and I shoot both of you. They’re scared so they keep quiet. Poor Libby was thrashing around, this is what caused the dirt and bruising under her nails. Suddenly he was on top of her and slit her throat so deeply he almost cut it off. Poor thing lived for maybe five seconds and then died.

Abby was on the ground too, handcuffed. Poor Abby saw this horror in front of her face. Face it, this is as bad as it gets  – watching your bestie murdered while you watch. It doesn’t get any worse than that. Abby screamed. BG was on top of her very quickly and hit her over the head with the butt end of the gun. She went out cold. The blow did not kill her though. He figured out that she wasn’t dead. So he took a knife and stabbed her in the artery in her neck, killing her.

He put them both out of commission in seconds, and he killed both of them within a minute or two. He had to dispatch them quickly so they wouldn’t scream. He couldn’t keep them alive and tortured them, though he may have wanted to. The sexual thrill here was the homicide itself. He’s a lust murderer. Sadistic killers get a sexual arousal just from hurting people. It doesn’t have to be anything sexual. Later on he did sexual things with both bodies involving sticks and twigs.

We Don’t Fake Photos Here

There is a photo on Reddit of a Photoshopped up photo of BG. People on there are saying it came from my website. I don’t recall seeing it on my site but I put a lot of stuff up there. This is followed by an accusation that I “made up” this photo or deliberately altered it with a graphics program. Problem? I’m a terrible artist. I do not know how to use any graphics program. I’ve used a few of them, but I can barely do anything, maybe crop or rotate a photo and that’s it. Please stop saying that I manipulate photos about this case with graphics software. I don’t do any of the graphics work on my page. I have graphic artists who do that for me.

There is another accusation on Reddit that I manipulated a photo of BG to add in some cigarette smoke. We did run that photo. I just spoke to our graphics expert, and she told me she didn’t manipulate anything. She just applied some lighting filters.

I used to think this showed BG smoking and a cloud of smoke coming off of him, but now I think that is just the white scarf he was using to disguise his face. Recall that a few people saw him and said that he had the lower half of his face covered by a white scarf.

I believe that does look like cigarette smoke over his left shoulder. We also thought we saw a smoldering cigarette in his mouth in another of her enhancements. BG was either smoking and leaving a smoke cloud or those are just some artifacts of the graphics software creating illusions. There’s no confirmation that BG was smoking a cigarette when he abducted those girls. There’s just an odd photo that could be anything.

A photosphopped photo of BG with a cigarette. We had nothing to do with this photo.

Below is a capture from the same area as the photos below came from. The helicopter video where there is a circle of flashes going off. That’s clearly the CSI people photographing the scene. It can’t be anything else. The grabs below are from a Youtuber who is actually a theoretical physicist.

Note that the girl’s arms are raised on in a surrender position exactly as they are in the more cleaned up photos below. Also note that the girl’s legs have been spread by the killer, same as they are in the photos below.

One of my graphic artist is a woman. I know, I’m such a misogynist, huh? Actually many of my best sleuths down through the years have been women. Women excel at intuition and I think intuition is important for detectives. Women are lousy at logic as any man who’s had a girlfriend or wife knows, but men blow at intuition, so it all evens out in the end.

More of my graphic artist’s work.

There is a charge from Reddit that we faked this image. We don’t fake images.

This is one of our early graphics from the helicopter video. The capture is from the part in the video where flashes are going off in a circle. These are CSI people photographing the scene. There are very vague reddish objects inside the circle. We assume those are the girls.

In the above photo, Libby’s right and left legs are marked. Also one of my graphics people labeled what he thinks is a large branch between this poor girl’s legs. This would follow from the report of the search party member below where she says that Libby had a log jammed up perpendicular to her crotch to make it seem as it was penetrating her sexually.

By the way, the man who did the labeling was a sheriff in a nearby county who joined our group incognito. So you can see we had active duty LE in our group working with us. This image is very poor, but it’s a match for the images below from the theoretical physicist.

Validation of My Reporting over the Years

One of the things people on Reddit are saying is that they were shocked at how closely Leaker’s revelations resembled things that I’ve been saying for years. Well, of course. We’re wrong a lot, sure. But here’s the thing. We’re also right a lot. I’m sure that if more information about this case comes out, more of the things we’ve been saying here for years are going to be shown to be true.

Clearing up Some Rumors

The Horrible Sticks and Twigs Rumor

I’ve been run through the grinder for years over this rumor, and I was trying to avoid it in this post, but I have no choice but talk about it. One rumor is either that one or more of the girls was impaled with a branch. That rumor started when a young man from Delphi published crime scene photos in the week after the murders. This is what he described, among other things. He also thought the murders had occult or Satanic overtones. That’s probably not true, but if you read about how the killer staged the crime scene, you might think that was the case.

This rumor was repeated later when a good source told me that poor Libby was impaled with a branch right below her solar plexus. Keep in mind that I have not been able to verify this rumor. But keeping in mind the insanity of the crime scene below, almost anything is possible with this depraved killer.

A better sourced rumor – but just as horrible – is that BG shoved twigs, sticks, and small branches into both girls’ vaginas and anuses. Terrible, huh? I presume he did this after they were dead, so at least they didn’t have to suffer this indignity. At this point, he’s also a necrophile, but a lot of these guys have necrophilic tendencies.

Thing is we were able to source this to two LE sources. The first was a local detective who was working on the case. He told someone close to him and they reported it on the Net. The second is another detective in a different area of LE. He verified the rumor, saying he had seen crime scene photos. And just recently, I got a report that several “insiders” had verified that this rumor is true. Also, Leaker said that the girls were not sexually assaulted with the killer’s body, implying that they may have been with inanimate objects. So now we have variations of this rumor verified at least eight times. That’s not conclusive, but it’s looking better all the time.

It’s been said that I made up this rumor as some sick fantasy of mine. First, I don’t happen to fantasize about this stuff. I don’t care what anyone thinks about, but homicidal sexual sadism isn’t my bag, sorry. Second, as I repeated above, I am bound by journalistic ethics not to make up lies out of whole cloth. That’s a death sentence in this business, and I take my ethics seriously, unlike increasing numbers of my degenerate colleagues.

Resetting Libby’s Phone

At first it was thought that Libby did this herself, possibly after being told to do so by the killer who was catfishing her on Snapchat. It has now been revealed that Mike Patty, her grandfather, did this for unknown reasons.

Yes, Abby Had a Cellphone on Her at the Time of the Crime

I reported the other day that BG videotaped his crime. I know from case document(s) I obtained that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, film, etc. that BG used in this crime. The only way LE could know that BG videotaped his crime is if the rumor about BG sending video of the crime to Abby’s phone after her death is true.

People on Reddit are attacking this report, saying that according to Abby’s mother, Abby didn’t have a phone. Problem is Abby’s mother didn’t know all sorts of things. She didn’t know that Abby had a boyfriend, and she sure did. We even know his name. Also several LE officials have made public statements that both girls had phones on them, most recently the fire chief on the HTN show.

Mr. X Did Not Touch the Bodies When He Discovered Them

There is an old rumor going around that Mr. X touched one or more of the bodies in the neck, looking for a pulse. Sadly, I may have reported that earlier. I now feel that’s a dead rumor. Neither Mr. X nor anyone else touched the bodies.

Rejoinders Aside, Now on to the Real Meat of the Post

LE May Have a Prime Suspect in the Delphi Murders, and His Name is Mr. X

If you followed Leigh Kerr’s leak on Reddit, Leaker said that LE has a prime suspect in this case. We will refer to him from now on as Mr. X. I don’t want to use his name or his initials. When discussing this man in the comments, always refer to him as Mr. X. Please refer to his wife as Mrs. X. Don’t use either his name or his initials. We have to be fair here. Leave this man alone if you know who he is. We aren’t vigilantes here in America. We’re better than that. Besides, who knows if he did it or not? You think he did it? Fine, prove it. See, you can’t. Welcome to America. This is the price you pay to live in a free country.

He went into a number of details about Mr. X.

We have a lot more on Mr. X in this previous update.

Leaker said that LE thinks Mr. X did it, but they don’t have enough evidence on him to take it to court.

In case you are wondering, there are cases like this all over the country. I can even think of some serials who are running around free where LE believes that they committed several homicides. One is named the Lewiston Killer. There is a child serial killer who has killed several little girls over the past 10-20 years. LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they don’t have enough on him to make a case. So he walks free. And these aren’t the only two.

A former girlfriend got shot in the head by her husband. He said she committed suicide but that was not possible, and further his behavior after he shot her was very weird. LE detained him for a while. Once he visited her at the hospital with LE, and he was chained to a room heater in the hospital room. I believe they detained him for a couple of weeks and released him. They didn’t have enough evidence against him to bring a case to trial.

The OJ Simpson case is also instructive.

Bottom line is murderers get away with it all the time in this country, and in a number of cases, LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they simply don’t have enough evidence to take it to court. DA’s won’t dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Otherwise the case never goes to trial. We have trial by jury in this country, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We can’t go around killing people because someone thinks they might have maybe killed someone.

Why Are People Going out of Their Way to Protect Mr. X?

There is a man named Jordan McCoy on Facebook pretending to be Leigh Kerr. In fact, McCoy doesn’t even exist. He’s just a sock for a guy named Scott Alexander, and Alexander isn’t Leaker either. Scott’s only purpose is to be to pretend he was Leaker in order to draw suspicion away from the prime suspect, Mr. X, for unknown reasons.

There are some locals who are going out of their way to protect Mr. X. They are insisting that he could not possibly have done it. Some of their behavior is downright weird. Perhaps they are doing this out of loyalty to their friend. That said, these protectors probably ought to be named because their behavior is pretty off.

Anthony Greeno spends most of his time trying to deflect attention away from Mr. X. Greeno happens to be a hunting partner of Mr. X. I do not know why Greeno so vociferously defends Mr. X. Perhaps it is due to their friendship.

There is another very odd character named Caleb Bowlin, a Delphi resident. A lot of people are suspicious of him. He was 21 at the time of the crime, and he’s a dead perfect match for the second sketch. I don’t know what that means. He’s gone completely overboard defending Mr. X and saying he could not possibly have done it. At one time a couple of people were trying to go look at the crime scene, and he was literally blocking them with his body to keep them away. I don’t know why he is doing this. There is no evidence that this man is involved in this crime.

Bowlin presented himself to Leazenby’s office and told the sheriff that there were rumors going around that he was BG. Bowlin offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test. Leazenby said, “Caleb, if we ever need you for any of that, we’ll contact you.” Based on this, LE does not suspect Bowlin of being part of this crime.

Who Is Leigh Kerr?

The pastor of a small Pentecostal church from Lafayette, Joe Wampler, is Leigh Kerr. Leaker is the man who held a session on Reddit where he told people he had accessed case documents and he was going to leak details about the case. He was angry that the case had gone on this long with no resolution. He proceeded to tell quite a tale about what he had learned from these documents. His revelations are here. Leaker stirred up a huge storm and a large consensus is that he’s a liar and a fraud. I think that is incorrect. I regard him as credible for various reasons.

He posted accidentally under his real name and profile as if he were still answering questions as Leigh Kerr. His wife has indeed been traced back to a local courthouse worker. Rumor is she saw a lot of these documents and ran them off. I just spoke to a woman who knows this couple very well, and she insisted to me that this man is straight up man of God type. His word is good and his morals are strong. He’s the last person to make up stupid lies. He’s pure integrity, a class act.

Theory That BG Videotaped His Crime with a GoPro Camera and Sent the Photos to One of the Girls’ Phones after the Crime

Leaker also said that BG sent photos or videos to one of the girls’ phones after the crime. This has also been (somewhat) vindicated. These same document(s) in my possession say that LE is looking for photos, videos, videocameras, cameras, and film in relation to this case. Obviously, LE thinks BG filmed his crime. Profiler John Kelly, who believes that Leaker should be at least given the benefit of the doubt until proven false, thanked Harvey Carroll, another good (albeit narcissistic) Delphi Murders podcaster, for his work on the BG photo in which Carroll found that BG is apparently wearing a Go-Pro camera. Kelly agreed that the photo does show BG wearing such a camera. I agree with Kelly and Carroll.

This is a possible Go Pro camera on BG’s belt. It is definitely looking like BG filmed this crime.

Attacking Leigh Kerr (Leaker)

Trashing Leigh Kerr, Part 1. On Reddit, people are saying that Leigh Kerr has been proven to be a fake and a liar. Leigh Kerr has not proven to be completely correct (though some of his testimony checks out), but hasn’t yet been debunked either.

No one knows anything about Leigh Kerr’s stories, but one of them, new information that BG had binoculars that he used in his ploy the capture the girls, has been validated. I have official document(s) which state that LE is looking for binoculars in relation to this case.

Trashing Leaker, Part 2. From Reddit, Leaker is accused of lying because in the part of the audio not released, BG can be heard telling the girls he’s railroad police, he spotted the girls trespassing with binoculars, the girls were were now under arrest for trespassing, and he’s now handcuffing them. Reddit said this could not be true because if it was, LE would have released it to the public.

First of all, this guy never read Leaker’s account in the first place. Because if he had, he would note that Leaker said that this account was only deciphered after long painstaking work with audio experts who managed to clean up the completed garbled audio on Libby’s phone. Even cleaned up, you can barely hear a thing. However, these experts transcribed what they thought was being said in this encounter. It is from this deciphering that LE concluded that the conversation above took place. Leaker said LE did not release it because one, even cleaned up, it’s a complete mess and undecipherable without a lot of expensive equipment, and two, they didn’t think it would be of any additional help to release it to the public.

No Such Crime as “Interfering with an Investigation”

No such crime as Interfering with an Investigation. This poster also repeated the favorite that Leaker should be arrested for some fake crime called “interfering with an investigation.” There have been calls for years to have me arrested on this fake crime too. We’ve succeeded in making half of life illegal so far in the land of the free (sic), but this isn’t really a crime. I think it is only a crime on the federal level, and it’s never used the way these people think think it is.

It’s a BS law, often used by the FBI and other feds when they want to take someone down but they can’t get anything on you. I don’t like the FBI. If the FBI wants to take you down, you go down. They will search through your life with a fine toothcomb, and if you do that with most people, you will find some idiot law someone broke somewhere somehow. So this is one of those fake crimes (like “Lying to the FBI” – another fake crime) that they use for political purposes. The only time I’ve ever seen it used was to charge someone in the recent Russiagate (a fake scandal about a fake event – something that never happened in the first place) prosecutions.

They charged someone with “interfering with an investigation” for destroying documents relevant to the case in order to avoid prosecution. In other words, destruction of evidence. As far as whether I am “interfering with an investigation,” let’s see what LE told me about my reporting on this case:

ISP: “We don’t care what you write. Go ahead and write whatever you want. And if you ever write anything sensitive that we want taken down, we will contact you, ok?” Phone conversation between me and and ISP detective, Spring 2017.

FBI: “We don’t care about Lindsay.” Conversation between FBI agent and a suspect when detaining him to get a DNA sample at an FBI office in Michigan, 2018.

Supporting Leigh Kerr

Backing up Leaker, Part 3. On Reddit, at least one poster defended Leaker, saying that they had been talking to people close to the Delphi investigation, and they backed up much of what Leaker said.

Specifically, his sources concurred that there was at least some luring of the girls to the site. Leaker said that Libby was catfished on Snapchat with the second sketch of the young man.

His sources agreed that Mr. X was someone that LE looked at very hard at least at one point if possibly not at the moment.

They also agreed with agreed that the girls were posed in a sexual tableau.

Abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect (Bad Idea)

Sleuths abandoning Mr. X as a Suspect. Mr. X’s daughter has made an appearance in Facebook groups, saying that he’s the greatest guy in the world, and he couldn’t possibly have done this. However, family members of a number of convicted killers, even serial killers, have said similar things. She also said her father never lost his keys. Becky Patty, who is a friend of Mr. X’s wife, said that Mrs. X told her that Mr. X did not lose his keys.

These comments from wife, daughter, and friends defending Mr. X and questioning the official narrative have caused a large group of sleuths abandon Mr. X as a suspect. As if a suspect’s wife and daughter would not be expected to vouch for him. And as it turns out, the fact that he didn’t lose his keys after all does not clear Mr. X from suspicion. In fact, it makes him even more suspicious.

More on Mr. X, the Possible Prime Suspect in the Case

First of all, as noted above, Leaker seems vindicated in part about Mr. X being the prime suspect in the case. A Reddit poster said he asked around to a number of Delphi “insider” types, and they told him that indeed LE had looked at Mr. X very hard as a suspect, if possibly not at the moment.

Beyond that, we have a retired LE officer working with us and we sent him to work with his LE colleagues on Mr. X. This man came back and told us that not only is Mr. X the prime suspect in these murders, but they also suspect him in other murders.

In my previous post, I talked about how Mr. X said he lost his keys during the search for the girls. That story has gotten completely garbled with Becky Patty, Mr. X’s daughter, and Mrs. X, Mr. X’s wife, all saying that Mr. X never lost his keys. The thing is that new information I got says that they are all correct! Mr. X indeed never lost his keys. But it’s worse than that.

First of all, Mr. X asked Ron Logan permission to search his land at 6:30 PM on February 13, three hours after the girls were murdered. Ron thought it was an odd request but he granted it because Mr. X was a neighbor who lived only 2 miles away. But there is a problem with Mr. X asking this permission. The Fire Department only announced the formation of a search party at 7 PM. Before that, nobody much even knew the girls were missing, although LE had been notified at 5:30 PM. The only people out searching were family and friends of the girls. No one else knew that the girls were even missing.

Which begs the question, How did Mr. X know that the girls were missing in the first place before anyone else did? Was he in the area when they went missing? That looks bad because his alibi said he was in another town altogether. If he was in another town at the time of the murders, when did he come home? And why, when he came back into town, did he decide to go to the bridge to look for the girls when he had no idea they were missing?

The only way this makes sense is if Mr. X was not in another town but was in the bridge area. But there goes his alibi. Now he’s in even more trouble. Furthermore, why on Earth did he specifically ask to search Ron Logan’s property, which is exactly where the girls were killed? Why did he park his truck hidden at the cemetery directly above the crime scene? Why didn’t he park at Ron’s front door if he wanted to knock and ask permission to search his land?

By 6:30 it was dark and it would have been hard to see the girls who were in a hidden ravine that was very hard to see. Also, two other men searched Ron’s land that night. They didn’t find the girls either, adding credulity to the notion that they were hard to see where they were in the dark.

Nevertheless, Mr. X’s alibi that he was out of town, came back into town and went to the bridge for no reason, and then decided to search for the girls without knowing they were missing obviously makes no sense.

Some Mr. X Background

Mr. X owned some property there where he raised goats and hunted deer, but I’m not sure what else he did. Mr. X has two children, a younger daughter who is a very out lesbian and an older daughter, about 30 and unmarried. He has been married to Mrs. X for some time, possibly 10+ years. She is 10 years younger than he is, an attractive woman.

Mr. X is a big fan of Harley Davidson motorcycles and an extremely avid deer hunter. We have not been able to find information about his employment at any time. His wife most recently worked at a bank, but she was caught stealing money from the bank two years ago and was fired.

He was born in 1965 in Illinois and is 55 years old and looks his age. He grew up in Illinois but moved to Indiana around 2000 at age 35. We know little about his life before 2000.

From 2000-2010, he moved around Indiana, moving about once a year to a new town. He settled in Delphi in 2011 and lived there for 10 years, mostly with his wife. In 2011-2012, he was separated from his wife and lived with a male roommate. He and his wife just moved early this year. I believe they now reside in Monticello. The latest I have heard is that they moved back to Illinois, but that may just be a rumor. He obviously thinks the heat is on him.

I have obtained a videotape of him playing with his granddaughters. His voice sounds a lot like BG’s, and he refers to his two young granddaughters as “guys.” In the videotape, his walk looks a lot like BG’s walk.

I have a photograph of him with his daughters from 2009 when they were girls. The older daughter looks remarkably like Libby German, and the younger daughter looks remarkably like Abby Williams in that photo. I’m not sure if that means anything. They are posing with their father next to the carcass of a deer he has shot.

He seems to have many friends in the Delphi area with the whole town on his friends page. I have a photo of him and Sheriff Tobe Lozenby posing with a hunting rifle, clearly a gag photo. Apparently he was close to Sheriff Lozenby at one point. Mr. and Mrs. X are close to the Pattys. Libby had met Mr. X a couple of times, but Becky Patty did not think Libby would recognize him. Becky is currently defending him, probably because he is a friend of the family.

Considering that the killer catfished Libby only via Snapchat for four months and specifically targeted her for the murder, it is interesting because he knew her grandparents well so presumably he was quite familiar with Libby. Perhaps he had seen her regularly and begun to have sexual and homicidal fantasies of her.

Around the time of the crime, Mr. X was about the same height and weight as BG. Since the murders, he has gained ~50 pounds. After the crime, he talked so much about the murders to anyone who would listen that people started to get suspicious of him. It is not known if any locals turned him in to the tipline. Mr. X owns a hunting cap that is a replica of the one worn by BG, but perhaps that is a common hat in the area. I have seen photos of him with jeans and a jacket almost exactly like BG’s jeans and jacket, but perhaps those are common garments among men in that area. He very closely resembles BG when his face is put side by side by BG’s. None of these things are incriminating enough to take a case to court.

Mr. X’s Wife Says Mr. X Fooled Her for Many Years until She Discovered He was a “Monster” and an “Evil Force”

The wife is a curious case. There is a rumor that she posted to Facebook that she thought she knew Mr. X, but she had discovered that he was a “monster.” I have not been able to find that post.

However, backing that  up somewhat, I have screenshots of a woman, Ms. Y, who knew Mr. and Mrs. X for a long time. Ms. Y said she had suspected Mr. X from the very first day after the news about the lost keys and his truck being parked right above the crime scene came out.

Ms. Y described the couple as “very, very strange.” This tells me absolutely nothing about any human being. Instead I want to know precisely what it is about this couple that Ms. Y finds so strange. Anyway, it does add suspicion to Mr. X.

Ms. Y said that their marriage was a bit rocky, with a few wild fights and temporary breakups. Ms. Y said Mrs. X had made a series of very strange posts to Facebook about how she thought she had known someone all her life but it turned out she didn’t know them and that this person turned out be some sort of an evil force.

I believe that is a reference to Mr. X, as the”evil force” lines up with the  earlier report that she said Mr. X was a “monster.” That Mrs. X had “known him her whole life” simply means that she was married to him for some time, probably over a decade. Marriages often seem to “last a lifetime,” even when they don’t.

So we can see that Mrs. X referred to Mr. X as an enigmatic person who fooled her into thinking he was ok for many years, but she had recently discovered that he was “a monster” and “a force of evil.”

If Mr. X is a psychopath (a possibility), then this report lines up perfectly. Bottom line is he would be fooling everyone. Everyone in town would think he was a standup guy, including the grandparents of girl he may have murdered himself. He was married for up to a decade to a wife before she was able to tear down his “mask of sanity.” See Harvey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity, 1947, the ultimate document ever written on psychopathy. They fool everyone for a long time, but after they have known them for some time, some people can uncover their true personas, which are nothing like their public images. “A force of evil” and “monster” are two terms people often use when they are able to take the mask off of a psychopath.

Mr. X’s Behavior on February 13-14, 2017

Mr. X has an alibi for the murders, that he was elsewhere in another town, when the murders occurred. Someone, possibly a friend, Mr. Z, was certain that they saw him elsewhere  when the murders were committed. We don’t know who Mr. Z was. I say was because shockingly, Mr. Z is now dead. So Mr. X’s alibi is dead. That means that the alibi cannot be flipped anymore.

Curiously, Mr. X’s phone pinged the Child Protective Services building for several hours around the time of the murders. LE feels that the killer parked his car at the CPS building. No vehicle has yet been reported parked near the building. It would seem that Mr. X’s phone pinging the CPS building means he or his phone was there at the time, but Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere, and his phone was at his home pinging there looking for a signal. There are only two cell towers in town so that’s actually a possibility, albeit a remote one.

However, there is a report that an abandoned vehicle, possibly a white truck, was towed from the CPS building. There is currently a gag order imposed by the courts about the circumstances around this truck being towed.

Mr. X’s orange truck was parked hidden in the cemetery directly above where the girls were found. It stayed in this spot for at least the next 18 hours, from 6:30 PM until 12:30 PM the next day when the girls’ bodies were discovered. I say at least because no one knows exactly when Mr. X’s truck was first parked in the cemetery. Yes, it shows up there at 6:30 PM, but perhaps it had been parked there earlier without being seen.

Mr. X is also one of three people who discovered the bodies. Hence, Mr. X’s DNA is all around the crime scene as a discoverer of the crime. None of this DNA is usable in court. After he found the girls, Mr. X said called his wife and ran from the scene. Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. To me those two reactions seem pretty excessive, but that doesn’t prove anything. At 12:30 PM, the cemetery was filling up with police cars. Mr. X’s truck was in the way and was blocking in police cars.

This is apparently a photo of Mr. X’s truck at 1 PM on February 14. On the left side, you can see the truck where it was hidden at the cemetery. On the left, you can see where his truck is blocking police cars.

Asked why he was parked there and if he would please move his truck, Mr. X stated that he had lost his car keys and he was going to call his wife to get her to bring a new set.

Three problems with that story.

Mr. X never lost his keys. They were in his pocket the whole time. He never called his wife to bring a spare set. Even worse, there was no spare set. Mr. X was later caught by LE in this lie about losing his car keys, and this is one of the things that provoked their interest in him. A tow truck came and Mr. X allowed his truck to be towed. He had to do this because he had to keep pretending that he had lost his keys, and obviously his wife had never shown up to bring a new one. No one knows what was in Mr. X’s truck at the time it was towed, and there’s no evidence that it was searched that day by LE.

I noted above that Mr. X’s truck was parked right above where the bodies were found for 18 hours starting at 6:30 PM February 13 until 12:30 PM February 14. For some time after 6:30 PM, Mr. X was presumably searching Ron Logan’s land.

Where was Mr. X between 6:30 PM Monday and 12:30 PM Tuesday? Did he stay out there next to his truck all night? Did he ever go home to his wife that night? We don’t knows the answers to those questions. His whereabouts during those 18 hours are a mystery. However, it is quite odd that his truck stayed right above the kill zone for 18 hours straight. What was point of leaving it there? He had his car keys. Why didn’t he drive it home after he finished searching Ron’s land Monday evening? None of this makes sense.

LE’s Investigation of Mr. X So Far

There’s no evidence that LE has ever served a search warrant on Mr. X, though they may have. They have his DNA. He took a lie detector test but the results were inconclusive. Mr. X has so far been cooperative with LE.

Mr. X Was Present at the 2019 Delphi Murders Town Hall Meeting

Mr. X was present at the 2019 press conference, sitting in the exact center of the room. He was wearing a hunting hat identical to BG’s hunting cap. LE was angry that BG was in the room. This is why Detective Carter was so livid. It’s also why Carter said, “The killer may be in this room right now.” However, he then looked away from Mr. X far to the right.

About That Fake Press Conference or Fakeference

Leaker said that the entire press conference was a gigantic ruse meant to trip up Mr. X, who, as noted, was in the room. The second sketch, which LE said was actually the real killer, was the catfish used to lure Libby off Snapchat.

According to Leaker, the idea that LE thinks this is the subject is a ruse. Instead, this the catfish of a 19 year old boy that was used to catfish Libby on Snapchat. Libby was reportedly falling for this young man pretty hard. Libby showed one of her friends the catfish’s photo on her Snapchat. Based on that recollection, this sketch was created. Once again, this is not BG, the main suspect. BG is a man ~50 years old.

The first sketch looks like Mr. X. They did this to make Mr. X think they had abandoned him and were looking at a false suspect.

The statement that they were looking for a young man aged 18-40 was also a lie, intended to make Mr. X think that they had lost his tail and were going off on a false tangent. Likewise with the report of the white truck at the CPS building. They highlighted this to make Mr. X think they were after the wrong vehicle and had abandoned the theory that his orange truck was involved. I have no idea what the cryptic references to The Shack movie were all about. You tell me.

These LE guys are extremely smart and crafty. I have nothing but intense admiration for all of the detectives working on this case. I tire of all the silly repetitious condemnations of LE that they had blown it on this case. I see no evidence that this is true. Instead these guys are master craftsmen straight out of a Sherlock Holmes or John Buchan novel. They continue to amaze me.

Tobe Lozenby and Kelsi German Cleared in Delphi Murders

Via Leaker, several people came back with inconclusive lie detector results, including Sheriff Tobe Lozenby, who was actually a suspect for a while. Tobe has been cleared. The only DNA found at the crime scene on the girls’ bodies was Libby’s sister Kelsi’s. But Kelsi had lent Libby her sweater that day. Kelsi was looked at very closely by the FBI, but she was eventually cleared. Kelsi’s is the only DNA on the girls and presumably on the other objects at the scene. The killer appears to have thrown bleach over both girls and over all of the objects at the scene. There is an old rumor that he threw bleach over the girls’ genital regions that fits in with the new info about a bleach bottle left at the scene.

Brand New Information on Mr. X, the Prime Suspect!

This information comes from a retired LE officer in Illinois. We know him and we set him to work on Mr. X to see what he could dig up for us. He still has many LE contacts and he got in touch with them. After talking to his LE colleagues for a while, he got back to us.

He told us that Mr. X had a roommate in 2011-2012. This roommate looked at the BG video. He said that BG’s voice matched Mr. X’s perfectly. He said that BG’s clothes looked familiar, that is, looked like clothes that Mr. X liked to wear. And he said that the way BG walked was a dead on perfect match for BG’s walk. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. More on that later. The roommate reported his concerns to the Delphi hotline. This lines up with the Indiana Star article that also discussed Mr. X as a prime Delphi suspect and explored the possibility of a link between Delphi and Evansdale. So we have two sources for the roommate story.

We did a lot of sleuthing on Mr. X and learned that he was homeless for a time in the 2000’s when he was living in a shelter. There were some photos of him from that time but we can’t find them now. We can’t find much on him from before 2000 but he was in Illinois.

We also learned, which ought to be no surprise, that Mr. X had a rap sheet for a sex crime committed during the 1980’s when he was between 16 and 26 years old. Problem is we don’t know the nature of the sex crime. If Mr. X is BG, it makes perfect sense that he has a rap sheet for a sex crime. It also makes perfect sense that Delphi was not his first rodeo. What man with a clear rap sheet and no sex crimes in his background wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit a pair of sexual homicides?

Basically never happens. All these guys have a background. It’s true that some of these men commit a crime like this as young adults and then go on to live normal lives and never commit another homicide. A few cases recently have been solved by DNA of sex murders of young women committed by young men who then went on to live perfectly normal lives, marrying and raising kids, until they were caught by DNA in their 60’s and 70’s. For everyone saying Mr. X could not possibly have done it, the people who knew these men when they were arrested recently said the same thing.

The Evansdale Murders – Some Background

The Evansdale Murders are the double murders of two very young girls in Evansdale, Iowa, in 2012. They were younger than the teenage victims in this case, both below age 11. These were literally little girls. I don’t have time to go into the Evansdale Murders now. I recommend you look it up on the Net if you want some background.

A fellow sleuth read an article in a local newspaper a few years ago, but she can no longer find the article among her extensive files. I realize this is not a good source, but I do trust and believe her. She thought the paper was the Indiana Star. The article looked into the possibility that the Delphi Killer was responsible for the Evansdale Murders too. The article focused on Mr. X but did not name him, instead referring to him losing his keys during the search. The article implied that he was a prime suspect. The story noted that the suspect vehicle in the Delphi Murders was a white van. It was parked at the trailhead.

The girls were riding bicycles when they were accosted by the killer near the trailhead. Their bikes were strewn across the bike path. He had somehow removed them from their bikes and gotten them into his van. The van is the suspect vehicle because it was seen at the trailhead just before the girls vanished.

Five months later, the girls’ bodies were found in a wooded area near water six miles away at a wildlife refuge. The bodies were in very bad shape, and the cause of death could not be ascertained.

One of the girls’ parents was heavily involved in meth, manufacturing it and selling large quantities. He was arrested and sent to jail after the girls were killed. A drug connection appears to be ruled out.

The FBI for some odd reason felt that the girls had been left alive for a week after they were abducted. If this is so, they were probably being raped and possibly beaten or tortured during this time. What a chilling thought.

According to the article, Mr. X was driving a white van right around the time of the Evansdale Murders. Furthermore, a white van had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the murders. It was not seen again after the girls were abducted.

Mr. M., A Previous Prime Suspect in the Evansdale Murders

I previously had another prime suspect for the Evansdale Murders who I will not name other than calling him Mr. M. His ex-wife, Mrs. S., is convinced that he killed those girls. She has since remarried and moved to Arkansas. I’ve spoken with her at length, and I like her a lot. I’ve also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. Mr. M is a pure pedophile. His Facebook page is full of photos of little girls. They’re crawling all over the page. According to Mrs. S., Mr. M dressed his two sons up in girls’ clothes and molested them for five years. He was never arrested for this abuse.

Another woman from Iowa who worked with Mrs. S., Ms. C., told me she and Mrs. S thought this man was a member of a network of pedophiles or possibly or sadistic pedophiles. Sadistic pedophiles are 5% of all pedophiles. They are called misophiles. Most sexual murders of children are committed by misophiles. As with sadistic rapists, 5% of all rapists, misophiles are quite dangerous. Most rapists who murder are sadistic rapists. Anger rapists sometimes kill in a rage if the victim fights back, but generally they just threaten or possibly hurt the rape victim without killing her.

Ms. C told me that in these misophile networks, the ultimate high is considered to be to be get two little girls at once and rape, torture, and murder them. That is just horrible.

This would be akin to the “double cherry” murders that some US soldiers committed in the Vietnam War. The soldiers would abduct a virgin teenage girl from presumably a hostile village, rape her, and then murder her. That’s terrible. It really hits me hard.

Mr. M has been investigated by the FBI six different times for the Evansdale Murders. Each time they describe him as a suspect. They clear him each time after a while, and then they simply say that he is not a suspect. I was sure that Mr. M. killed those girls, as his behavior around that time was very suspicious, but now I am not so sure. The FBI is said to be very angry at me for my articles on Mr. M, who I simply referred to as Mr. X, because they think it will harm his ability to get a fair trial. I doubt if he did it, but maybe I will take those articles down if they’re making the FBI mad.

LE Now Feels that BG Also Committed the Evansdale Murders

The shocking news that we learned from our retired LE contact was that LE now thinks that the Delphi Murders and the Evansdale Murders are linked. The state in which the bodies were left and the choice of dump sites were the same in both killings, and strange objects were found with the Evansdale girls similar to the weird objects found with the Delphi victims.

In addition to Mr. M above, another man was a suspect in the Evansdale Murders. He had abducted two girls, one 12 and the other 15 years old and taken them to a barn where he had tied to them up. While he was raping and killing the 15 year old girl, the 12 year old girl escaped. The poor 15 year old girl did not, and her body was found dumped nearby shortly afterwards. Unfortunately he killed himself before he could be taken to trial.

For a long time, LE thought his man did the Evansdale murders. After all, two female minors were abducted at once in both crimes and were either killed or there was an attempt made to kill both of them. However, LE said that this man’s MO was completely different from the MO used in the Evansdale murders, so he probably didn’t do it.

Lists have been made of all of the similarities between the Evansdale Murders and the Delphi Murders. The coincidences are shocking. The dates of the Evansdale and Delphi Murders are exactly reversed. Also both sets of girls were killed on the 13th, traditionally an unlucky number and day.

If LE suspects Mr. X of both crimes, this means that he was living in Delphi at the time of the Delphi murders, moving away only recently. He lived in Delphi most of the last decade. Around 2011-2102 was when he first moved to Delphi. Prior to that he had been bouncing around small towns in Indiana. At this time, he had a male roommate who suspects Mr. X in not only the Delphi murders but also the Evansdale Murders. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, he was living in or around Delphi at the time. It would have been a long-distance murder. So Mr. X would have lived in Delphi when he committed both the Evansdale and Delphi Murders.

BG May Well Be a Serial Killer

It is important to note that if BG also committed the Evansdale Murders, he is a serial killer. I have felt from the start that BG might be a serial. The crime was too brazen and skillfully carried out to be a first shot. And who wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit horrible sex murders? Pretty much nobody. He would have been 46 when he did the Evansdale Murders, but he may have committed a sex crime between the ages of 16-26, so there’s your prior earlier in life. Almost all of these guys have red flags like this early ion life.

Mr. X May Have an Aberrant Age Sexual Orientation

I hate to bring up this subject since it sets off so many lies about me, but I’m forced to because Mr. X may have an aberrant age sexual orientation and this has forensic consequences. First a brief tutorial on age orientations in men.

Sexual orientation is not just towards sex as in homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual.

Males have three main age orientations:

Teleiophile: Maximally attracted to mature females 16+. All normal males fall into this category. The react to 13-15 year old girls too, but at a lower level.  And 90-100% of them react to even girls from 7-12, albeit at a substantially lower level. The presence of attractions is not what is important here. The importance lies in the degree of the attractions relative to other ages. Depending on the definition, 23% of teleiophilic men also show strong attraction to girls under 16. However, as they have strong attractions to mature females also, we tend not to worry about these men. There are too many of them anyway.

Some teleiophilic killers go as low as 12 as Bundy did, but that is because 12 year old girls are barely starting to look like women, especially with the abnormally long legs. These killers almost never commit sex murders of little girls. Or if they do, they do it when they are boys. For instance, Bundy killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14. But that’s a fairly normal attraction for a 14 year old boy to have.

Hebephile: Although age ranges vary, I prefer the age range of 12-15 for hebephiles. Some move the lower end down a bit. These men are maximally attracted to pubescent girls and have little to no attraction to mature females. Perhaps ~3% of men are primary hebephiles. Hebephilia is not considered to be a mental disorder as attraction to pubescent females is quite normal among teleiophilic men. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims.

However, ~23% of men react maximally to girls age 12-15 at a level equal to or higher than their reaction to mature females. So high attraction to girls in this range is quite normal. The thing is that these men are also strongly attracted to adult women. The hebephilic attraction is an antisocial attraction. The attraction to adult women is a prosocial attraction. Probably most of these men repress or suppress their hebephilic urges which will land them in prison if they act on them and instead focus on their prosocial urges towards adult women, which are completely legal.

Hebephilia is a problem when men have little to no attraction to mature females so the only way to satisfy their sexual urges is to have sex with a 12-15 year old girl. That’s illegal in most places, either child molestation in the case of 12 year olds or statutory rape for 13-15 year olds. In quite a few countries, 15 year old girls are legal, so hebephiles may stay out of trouble there. These men are automatically dangerous because the only way to fulfill their sexual drive is to commit a crime.

Pedophilia: Probably the most grotesquely abused word of the 21st Century. Nowadays an 18 year old boy has sex with a 17 year old girl, gets arrested, goes to jail, gets called a pedophile and a child molester, and sees his name go on a sex offender registry for life. This is a result of a huge Sex Panic around the sexuality of teenage girls because we cannot acknowledge that they are fully sexual creatures without falling into a Puritanical moral panic.

As a result of this mass hysteria around the subject, the perfectly legitimate category of statutory rape (I prefer the term illegal intercourse) has been absurdly conflated with the child molestation of little girls under 13, which admittedly is a problem. Stat rape is psychologically normal behavior for adult men. It is a moral and legal problem, not a psychological one. Many adults feel that men who have sex with teenage girls are bad, evil, depraved, immoral, etc.

Because of society’s morals, much of this behavior is illegal. Societies have a right to have any morals they wish to. Stat rape is probably not harmful to teenage girls. But it is dangerous behavior for men to engage in, as you might get caught and go to jail or prison in the midst of an insane moral panic about this subject. Older men who break these laws are idiots and do not get my sympathy.

Anyway, pure pedophilia is an age orientation whereby men are maximally attracted to girls under 13 and have little to no attraction to mature females. Many start losing interest in girls as soon as they hit 13. It is associated by child molestation, but not all pedophiles molest, and many can go 20-30 years without offending. Also, 75% of child molesters are not pedophiles. They are teliophilic men who are just criminals who prey on easy targets. This behavior is associated with other forms of abuse such as psychological, physical, and verbal abuse. It’s just another form of abuse from an abusive man.

On the other hand, strong pedophilic attraction is quite normal in men. It is only abnormal where it is combined with little or no attraction to adult women. 21% of men react to girls under 13 as strongly or stronger than they do to adult women. But only 3% of men are pure pedophiles, so 18% of men have strong attractions to both mature women and little girls. As with the hebephilic attraction above, men who have high attraction to both women and little girls presumably suppress or repress their antisocial pedophilic attraction and focus on their prosocial attraction to adult women. It sounds like a good way to stay out of prison.

Pure pedophiles are automatically dangerous because the only way they can fulfill their sexual urges is by committing the serious crime of child molestation. Pedophilia, a way of thinking or a sexual orientation, is of course completely legal as are all ways of thinking. However, the behavior that can result from this thinking, child molestation, is very much illegal, and rightly so.

Based on the pure forensics, the Evansdale Killer is a pedophilic sex murderer or a misophile. The Delphi Killer is either a hebephilic sex murderer or he has a normal age orientation and is a teliophilic sex killer. The problem is what do we do when a man kills two girls, 8 and 10 and then kills two more girls, 13 and 14. In the first crime, the killer is almost always pedophilic and in the second crime, the man rarely if ever pedophilic.

A solution to this problem lies in the notion of pedohebephilia.

Pedohebephilia: Apparently there is a significant group of men who react maximally to girls under 16 all the way down to little girls, encompassing both pedophilic and hebephilic attractions. They have little to no attraction to mature females or adult women. The available literature suggests that this group is larger than we thought.

Does Mr. X Have an Aberrant Age Attraction?

The answer appears to be yes. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, we have to think again about his sexual age orientation. Many killers with a normal age orientation will kill teenage girls since they look like women. So they kill teenage girls and grown women because they both look like women. Killers of teenage girls do not typically have an abnormal age orientation as it’s perfectly normal for healthy males to be highly aroused by underage teenage girls. The studies are clear on this.

However, killers who commit sexual murders of little girls under 13 are a different breed. This is beyond the pale for even most serial killers. The one murder that Ted Bundy would never confess to was an 8 year old girl he is thought to have killed when he was only 14 years old. Even for Ted Bundy this was considered shameful. Men who kill teenage girls and women almost never commit sexual murders of little girls. Sex murderers of little girls almost always have a strong pedophilic age orientation, although occasionally they attack adults too, as in the killer of Madeline McMurray who murdered a 3 year old girl, probably killed an 8 year old girl in Germany, and raped and brutally beat a 70 year old woman.

Nevertheless, Madeline’s killer is strongly pedophilic, as a large quantity of child porn was found among his possessions. In addition, a number of little girls’ swimsuits were found in his van. Any man possessing such items will always have a strong pedophilic orientation.

I had previously thought that BG had a normal age orientation for the above reasons. However, 13-14 year old girls also fall into the range of hebephiles who are maximally aroused by 12-15 year old girls and feel little to no attraction to mature females.

I spent a bit of time on their forums studying them. They’re disturbing. They don’t post child porn on there,  so their forums are clean. In case yiou think it’s weird to go to such forums, half the people in the forum were hebephiles and another half were hebephile haters threatening to kill  the hebephiles and have them arrested. So it’s very common for non-hebephiles to be on these forums.

The hebephiles would scream, “No grandmas!” every time someone posted a 16 year old girl. If a man doesn’t think 16 year old girls are disgusting old ladies, he can’t possibly be a hebephile. This is what they are like.

The victims in the Evansdale and Delphi Murders were girls ranging in age from 8-14. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. You can see above that there is an age sexual orientation called pedohebephilia. When they were trying to sneak Hebephilia into the DSM-5, regular reference was made to this group.

Pedohebephiles combine both categories. They are maximally attracted to girls under 16 down to little girls and feel little to no attraction to mature females. If Mr. X did the Evansdale Murders, then he may be a pedohebephile in terms of age attraction.

This is more important than you think because age attractions of sex killers are an important part of forensics and especially profiling. Presumably we should look in the background of Mr. X to see evidence of a strong attraction to girls under 16, possibly combined with a low attraction to adult females.

In that case, he may collect child pornography or go to child porn sites. He may have child and teen erotica in his home. He may have shown evidence in his life of an abnormal interest in little girls or young teenage girls. People close to him may have noticed this over time. In fact, Mr. X was the leader of a young people’s Christian group. The ages of the minors in that group are not known. Investigators should be looking for a man with a strong focus on little girls and young teenage girls as preferred sexual objects. This should be an important part of the investigation.

More on the Official Case Document(s) I Obtained

I am keeping the number, nature, and provenance of the document(s) deliberately vague as I am trying to protect the source who mailed them to me as photocopies. As I discussed in my last update, I recently came upon photocopies one or more official document(s) relating to the case. The document(s) are from either LE or the judicial system or both at the same time. They are signed by two different entities. The document(s) are the property of a man in the community who was investigated as a suspect in this case and relate to LE’s investigation of him. He was cleared of involvement in the case.

Proof That BG Fired a Gun During the Crime

One of the revelations in those document(s) was that BG fired a gun during this crime. This has been subsequently appended by two new rumors that there was a bullet cartridge found at the site and that LE is looking for an odd gun, a collector’s edition .40 or 10mm, that was used in the crime.

It’s pretty clear that at least one cartridge was probably found at the scene because in the document(s), it says that LE is looking for a gun in connection with this crime in order to do ballistics tests on it. In order to do ballistics tests, you need a spent cartridge fired from the gun in question. That can only mean that BG fired a gun at some point in this crime.

The rumor that the gun was a collector’s edition .40 is definitely unconfirmed. I don’t even know the provenance of this rumor. See in the comments below though where a commenter casts doubt on the notion of any .40 gun being a collector’s edition.

Crime Scene Photos from the Helicopter Now Proven Legitimate

In my last post, I ran a number of photos taken from the helicopter footage on February 14, 2017 when the girls’ bodies were discovered. We focused on the area where you can see all the camera flashes going off in a circle. That has to be the crime scene with CSI people photographing the scene. There are a couple of reddish objects that can be very vaguely seen in the center of those camera flashes.

The photos were blown up and manipulated with software in a Youtube video by a theoretical physicist who seems credible. Many people say there is nothing there but pixellation and artifacts. However, I now have reason to believe that my analysis of these photos is correct. In order to discuss this, unfortunately I am going to have to print those photos again.

Outlines of both victims circled. Abby in green and Libby in blue.

First pic above. Both Abby and Libby.

I could not see Abby’s body for a long time, but I can see it here circled in green. Her arms and legs are spreadeagled. Poor thing!

Second pic above. Libby alone.

Enhanced, Libby on the left, Abby on the right. The figures show up better in this photo.

Third pic above. Both girls, good quality image. Note the knife on or near Libby’s shoulder in green.

Right leg, left leg of Libby.

Libby’s legs highlighted above.

One of the things I pointed out in these images is that the killer spread both of the girls’ legs wide open after disrobing them below the waist. This is obviously a sexual position that females adopt when on their backs in order to be penetrated by males via PIV sex. It’s also quite violating considering the ages of these girls and what was done to them.

However, see below how I was able to validate that those are indeed crime scene photos above and that the girls legs were both spread and a knife was either plunged into poor Libby’s shoulder or the log next to her.

A Woman Member of the Search Team Who Came upon the Scene Afterwards Speaks

I recent talked to a woman who was part of the search team. She came upon the site after the girls had been found. What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century.

First of all, we need to look at the credibility of this woman as a source. She was sent to me by a sleuther who I consider to be among the finest and most professional of all. This person told me that he found this woman to be very credible. She wasn’t the sort of person to make things up – more like the opposite.

There are references below to an elaborate crime scene with posing of the girls and all sorts of crazy and unlikely objects scattered about. First of all, I’ve been hearing these rumors forever, and I’ve been laughing as hard as anyone. I thought they were ridiculous. But now here I have a credible witness, a female member of the search team, who told me about this weird crime scene, and it turns out a lot of the crazy stuff I’ve been laughing at all this time may well be true.

A question has been brought up about how would BG transport these various objects to the crime scene, as they could easily been seen on his person in the photo on the bridge. I concur. The searcher is clear that one object was so large that he could have been carrying it when he was photographed on the bridge. I don’t believe he brought any of this stuff (other than the bleach bottle that can be seen in his left pant leg) to the crime scene when he abducted those girls.

Instead I believe he either prepared the crime scene in advance with all this weird stuff scattered about or he came back after the murders and created his little Fantasyland murder scene.

We spent so much time wondering what this object was. I eventually decided it was a net fishing bag that’s used to store fishing knives. However, one of my sleuths kept insisting that it looked like a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner. That’s exactly what it looks like. Now that it appears that a bleach was used and left at the scene, this may be a photo of that very bleach bottle.

Girls Staged in a Sexual Tableau at the Crime Scene

She told me that both girls’ legs were spread. However, she had not yet seen these crime scene photos. Also, I had not talked to her before I ran those photos and determined that the girls’ legs were spread (see photos above). What is the likelihood that she made up a lie about the girls’ legs being spread at the same time as I found some crime scene photos that I interpreted as the girls’ legs being spread? About 0%. So I consider it proven now that BG disrobed both girls below the waist and then spread their legs wide in a sexual tableau imitating PIV sex.

Staging of a Knife Attack on a Girl Made to Appear Self-Inflicted

She said that Libby’s head was leaning against a log. A knife had been plunged either into her shoulder or on the log next to her shoulder. Libby’s hand was positioned to make her appear to be holding the knife that stabbed her in the shoulder. So Libby was posed inflicting a self-inflicted wound upon herself.

As you can see in the photo above, the object highlighted in green is obviously a knife. Once again, what are the odds that she made up a lie about a knife positioned just this way at the same time as I saw these photos and interpreted them as being of a knife positioned just this way?  About zero. At this point, I consider it proven that BG plunged a knife into or near Libby’s shoulder.

Spreading their legs in that sexually receptive pose was bad enough, but BG did worse than that. According to this woman, BG  had stripped both  girls below the waist and had positioned phallic shaped objects between their legs perpendicular to their crotches. He placed a doll between poor Abby’s legs to make it appear she was being penetrated by a doll. Worse, he positioned a log in between poor Libby’s legs, making it appear that she was being penetrated with a log!

This would not be the first time women have been posed like this. I had the misfortune of seeing crime scene photos from  the Hillside Strangler case. A dead woman is positioned in a bathtub, and a broom handle of an intact broom is shoved into her vagina.

But wait. Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse, they do just that. Kind of like, you know, life itself?

Dolls Hanging from Trees at the Crime Scene!

Apparently the doll rumor is true!

The woman told me that dolls were scattered about at the scene in addition to the one shoved between Abby’s legs. Other dolls were, incredibly enough, hanging from the trees at the kill zone!

Giant Plush Stuffed Bear Toy at the Crime Scene? Who Knows? Maybe?

You’re heard the rumor of the gigantic stuffed animal left at the scene? That rumor was so pathetic that I discounted it immediately as ridiculous. Well, guess what? The woman told me that a large toy-like object was left at the scene. She didn’t tell me what it was, but she did say it was so large that BG could not possibly have smuggled it to the scene when he abducted the girls because it would have been seen in the video.

Here is the supposed giant plush object, supposedly a huge toy bear . I finally did see the gigantic plush bear when I looked at the physicist’s video again. However, the idea of a lifesize plush bear is so insane that I am going to call this an optical illusion via pixellization until I can get another source to verify this insane story to me, although my search party source did say that a large object (she suggested some sort of toy) was left at the scene that was so large that he could not have carried it to the crime scene that day without it being seen on the photo on the bridge.

Smiley Face Killers Signature at the Crime Scene

There was also a large white sheet left at the scene with a smiley face scrawled on it. According to the theoretical physicist, he seemed to be saying that this smiley face sheet had been hung from trees. This crime scene is getting seriously nuts.

Remember the bizarre Smiley Face Murders, the possible drownings of severely intoxicated young adult college age men in the Eastern US over a period of 10-20 years? No one knows if these are actual murders or just accidental drownings, but there are a couple of retired crack detectives who are certain that these are homicides, albeit very cleverly disguised ones. I believe that these are homicides.

They are called the Smiley Face Murders because in many cases, smiley faces were seen drawn on bridges where the drowned bodies were found. It is thought that these drunken young men may have been tossed off of bridges. The other theory of course is that these are simply college aged men who drunk to severe intoxication before deciding to go for a fatal midnight swims. This has been the default interpretation of these murders. Assuming these really are murders, this person(s) may have invented the perfect crime: homicides designed as accidents.

Multiple Signatures

This brings up another theory. One of my sleuther friends suggested that the killer is a serial killer fan. Possibly he is mixing up signatures of different killers in order to throw people off. That may or may not be the case.

Objects staged to appear to be shoved inside female victims’ vaginas would be an imitation of the Hillside Stranglers’ signatures. I’ve heard other killers used this signature, including a child killer in Indiana who was executed just last year who had rammed an object inside the vagina of a little girl he killed.

The smiley face cloth appears to be a reference to the Smiley Face Murders, a mystery involving many mysterious deaths that may be either accidents or homicides staged as accidents.

I don’t know of any serials who have used dolls in staging their crimes, but I suppose they may exist.

On the other hand, and I think this is a better theory, I think that at least some of these things are signatures particular to this killer. I say this because similar posing and objects were reported with the Evansdale Murders, who LE now suspects BG of committing.

Photo of Possible Bleach Bottle in BG’s Left Pant  Leg

Another crazy rumor, that of a bleach bottle left at the scene, was also validated by the woman. In the photos below, you can see what may be the bleach bottle in his left jeans pocket.

Here’s that strange object in BG’s pant leg. If that’s not a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner, what in the Hell is it?

It looks like he tossed bleach all over everything – the girls, the dolls, the plush object, the sheet, the crucifix, the log, you name it. Thereby killing all of the DNA.

A closeup of the possible bleach bottle in BG’s pocket. Not a bleach bottle? Then what the Hell is it? Ignore the object circled in red.

DNA, SHMEE-ENAY, Give It a Rest Already

I get tired of all this endless talk of DNA. Assuming that Mr. X is the prime suspect, they already have his DNA. It’s all over the crime scene in the surrounding forest but it’s not on the girls or on any of the objects, probably because the threw bleach all over them.

I do have an unverified report that they have nine markers of a DNA profile via skin cells from an unknown male recovered from one of the girls. Problem is that’s not many markers. It’s known as a partial DNA sample. I don’t have the exact figures, but a match with Mr. X on those nine markers might mean that there’s a 1 in 10 chance it’s him. In other words, 10% of men have those markers. They can’t use that in court, but these partial matches are useful to LE because they give LE additional confidence that they have the right suspect.

Fingerprint Evidence

Reportedly, LE has one smudged fingerprint from the crime scene. No one knows who it might be from. It doesn’t sound like it’s very usable.

The Crime Scene Had to Have Been Set up Before or Afterwards

Obviously, BG picked out this spot in advance and somehow planted the logs, dolls, sheet, plush object, etc. at the scene ahead of time without getting caught. He set up this crime scene before the murders. How did he do it? When? Why was he not seen?

Alternately, BG killed the girls and then went back to the scene between the sometime in the night of February 13 and early morning of February 14 and created this crazy Disneyland crime scene. The same questions posed above apply here too. I’m actually leaning towards the latter, as insane as that sounds. But really, if these crime scene rumors are true, just about anything, including the most insane notions, may be correct about this craziest of crimes.

Keep in mind that none of the wild stories above from the woman searcher are confirmed yet as they comes from a single, albeit seemingly unimpeachable, source. But we need more than that to confirm rumors in this case.* Nevertheless, the continuous nature of these bizarre rumors, now backed up by an excellent eyewitness, does add some credibility to these insane rumors.

If this crime scene is anything like what this woman describes it as, then this is shaping up to be one of the weirdest, most insane double homicides of the 21st Century.

*Notice that I am getting stricter about my criteria for confirmation of rumors in this case. We played fast and loose with words and phrases like confirmed, true, solid proof, etc. in this past. Once bitten, twice shy when it comes to that.

Alt Left: Surprise! Black Identity Politics Liars Fake Another BLM Video

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Yet another BLM fake “police brutality against Blacks” video making the rounds, skillfully edited to make the cops seem like the bad guys and the inevitable ghetto Blacks  – not regular decent Black folks per se but actual ghetto Blacks – which are almost all of the Black problem – seem like innocent, dipped-in-goodness-and-mercy Children of God.

Problem is the video was fake. The man was going 101 mph in a 55 zone, so he got pulled over for speeding. Then he refused to give the cop his driver’s license. When the officer was trying to cuff him, he resisted arrest just like these fake BLM brutality cases always do. The cop showed remarkable restraint when the man started fighting with the cop and threw the officer off of him. The officer pulled his taser on the man but didn’t even use it, instead waiting for backup.

The man kept arguing with the cop in an exercise in utter futility. His ghetto Black girlfriend tried to talk some sense into him, but to no avail. Finally backup showed up, they tried to cuff the man, and all Hell broke  loose. The girlfriend, previous sensible, went into full ratchet mode, screaming at the two cops as they tried to wrestle the man to the ground. This is the only part of the video that the BLM liars released. As you can see, the man resisted both officers when they tried to cuff him, so they obviously had to wrestle him to the ground.

Delphi Murders Update March 26, 2021

This post has now been updated. See here for the April 4 update. It’s even crazier than this update!

First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group:

People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. I don’t agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. A grifter is literally a criminal fraudster and he is breaking the law.

The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their money’s worth. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. Gray’s videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. Greeno’s videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case.

Which brings me to the question, why not donate to our enterprise here? It’s a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. And you won’t by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far.

Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like.

And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct.

So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? Why not donate to the best Delphi sleuthing team of all by donating to me, leader of a group of 230+ sleuthers who have been working on the case for four years now? How about getting your money’s worth?

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This post is very long. It runs to 28 pages. I’m sorry but I’m afflicted with both graphomania and logorrhea (same thing). We writers love to write and once we get started, we just can’t quit, like any other addiction to dope, gambling, sex, porn, or whatever. Except you never get the peak high, and there’s no post-high crash. The high continues the whole time, and there’s relief when you’re done as in an accomplished chore instead of a crash. Sort of, “I’m sure glad that’s over.” We love it yet it’s a chore. Kind of like, you know, life.

You just can’t stop. Supposedly writing too much is a sign of a lousy writer, but then we must convict Balzac and Dickens, not to mention encyclopedists like Pynchon and the king of the graphomaniacs, Proust. I’d rather not do that.

It’s not so much the sign of a lousy writer as the sign of a writer, as in a born writer, a real writer. Just as there are men and real men, so there are writers and real writers.

Obviously it’s a flaw. It violates White’s Manual of Style (Keep it simple, stupid) and a lot of other things, including the reader’s precious time. But all great things come with flaws just as there is a bit of good in even most horrors.

Anyway, what do you think editors are for? To mop up our Niagra of words, that’s what.

A bit here on my ever-growing army of critics. I’ve met some new folks lately, and they all say, “You know, I heard all these horrible things about you, but I wasn’t sure if they were true. Now that I contacted you, I know it’s all garbage. You’re like the nicest guy in the world.” Well, yeah. The obvious conclusion of someone who really knows me. Which is like…just about no one.

If you hate me so much, why do you read? I don’t get it. I don’t read people I hate. I might use their prose for toilet paper or lining bird cages, but I certainly won’t read it. I have better things to do, like enjoying life instead of hating it like you do. If you hate me that much, just go away. Don’t read. Unless you’re someone to whom hate is as valuable as oxygen. In that case, do come and get your fix.

One more thing. Nothing the critics ever said about me is true except that I’m broke, don’t have a regular job, and at one point my car broke down and I didn’t have the money to fix it. None of the sexual proclivities or obsessions they say I have are true. I don’t mind people who think that way, but it’s not for me, sorry. Once again, anyone who really knows me figures this out. Which, once again, is like, just about nobody.

How bout one more one more thing, just to try your patience? There’s a lot of graphic commentary below, including gruesome descriptions of the brutal murders of two young teenage girls. True crime is a nasty beast by its nature. There’s no way to pretty up this pig. If your true crime commentary isn’t brutal, you’re avoiding the facts. If you have a sensitive stomach about such things, just don’t read. Go read about flowers or something instead.

Oh, one more two more things. There are are blown up and edited to Hell images below taken from a helicopter hovering over the crime scene. In the images, some can make out the outlines of the two young victims. Not much is visible. They may as well be stick figures. Nevertheless, a lot of tender folks freak out on such things. So don’t look at them. Have a cup of coffee and think of sunshine and smiles instead.

Oh and one more three things. I would like to officially thank “Cory Ahlm” and “Ryan Vanslooten,” whoever the Hell they are, assuming they even exist in the first place, two of my very best friends going so far back I can’t even remember when we first met. They’ve been with me from the start and the start of this case, and I couldn’t have done anything without them. I could barely have existed without them! Speaking of which, I wish I was in California! The weather here is fit for Polar Bears and few else. By the way, I’ve heard of doppelgangers, but who ever thought there could be a double doppelganger? Only in the movies!

This will be a follow-on to my earlier post here. Anything published in the early post that has not changed will not be republished here. Only new items and old items that have changed will be listed here.

First of all, about the purpose of this website. The purpose of this site has simply been a clearinghouse for rumors about the Delphi Murders on Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017. That’s all we ever wrote. It’s true we were fast and loose with some of those rumors, reporting them as truth, and that is unfortunate. But that’s how it goes in this business.

So every time you hear people bashing the Hell out of this site for something we printed, keep in mind that that was just some rumor we heard and printed. That’s all it ever was. Of course, we have been trying to winnow the rumors down into those we have more confidence and less confidence in from the very start, but that’s easier said than done.

I would estimate that 95% of the rumors I have printed about this case have proven to be false. In fact, 95% of anything you have heard about this case anywhere over time is probably false.

I suppose I should go over some of these old dead rumors because idiots keep accusing us of pushing these theories. Now, when I say a rumor is considered dead, not credible, false, not true, etc., please leave me alone and quit accusing me of pushing an old story I’ve long since discredited. I will start with dead rumors or highly dubious rumors. After I do that, I will discuss rumors that have more credibility.

Dead or Highly Dubious Rumors

The barn theory: Has to do with the Mears barn across the street from Ron Logan’s house. We have a photo of cadaver dogs searching the barn. Also there was a small shrine with flowers inside the structure. And the owners acted very strange when we asked if the barn had been used in the crime. The barn theory is continuing to be pushed by a woman who says the girls were removed from the area, taken to the barn, killed there, and then returned to the dump site. Despite all of this, we regard the barn story as dead.

The initial K was carved in trees at the crime scene. We got this secondhand from a LE source. Turns out it was a bad rumor. As you can see, LE sources are not so reliable.

The White Dodge Dart: We formerly thought this had something to do with the crime. Turns out it was a great big dead end, one of many in this case. A white Dodge Dart is not involved in the case.

The crime had Satanic overtones. Indeed, we theorized this in the early days after the crime. In part it was due to bizarre reports from people who saw crime scene photos that the crime appeared to have occult or Satanic overtones. We now feel that this is false. There is no evidence of occult or Satanic overtones to this crime.

A previous report said that Abby was raped via PIV sex and fluids were left at the scene. This rumor is now judged false. The rumor also stated that the motive of the crime was the rape of Abby Williams. This is also false.

A previous report stated that the girls were bound with ropes around their backs. We judge that false. Instead, we believe that they were handcuffed.

A previous report said that the crime scene “begins in the Robertson’s backyard and continues for 1,000 feet.” We regard this as unconfirmed to say the least. Probably best disregarded for now.

A previous report said that at least two searchers touched the bodies and one tried to revive the girls with mouth to mouth resuscitation. We now regard this rumor as probably false and unconfirmed to say the least. There’s no evidence for it at the moment.

A previous report said that the cause of death of Abby Williams was a knife wound to the heart. We now judge this as rumor as false. Instead, we feel, via Leaker, that Abby was struck over the head with a blunt object (we believe it was the killer’s gun). She was also stabbed in the main artery of her neck. It is not known which assault was fatal.

A previous report said that some sort of bleach or toilet bowl cleaner was thrown on the girls’ bodies, in particular their genitalia, in order to destroy DNA evidence of the crime. This is rumor is unconfirmed.

Our POI: We had a sleuthing group with 200 members. I had a POI and I built quite a large case against him. In fact, LE contacted us and asked us to send them everything we had on this man. In addition, the Indiana State Police were verified as harassing this man at one point by repeatedly calling him on the phone. I know the name of the detective who was doing that, too. In addition, this man was a suspect according to the FBI, who tricked him into coming up to Michigan, only to detain and get a DNA sample from him.

As you can see this man was a considered a suspect by both the FBI and the ISP, so please stop accusing us of harassing him. We never published his name one time over the years, and I will not do it now. I won’t even publish his initials. We had a private pay-only group where we discussed him, but that was it. That’s like talking about someone within the confines of a private home. This man also made a series of videos where he seemed to be confessing to being the Bridge Guy (the UNSUB in the murders). In addition, he seemed to be taunting LE and viewers in these videos. Excuse me for suspecting that a guy who making videos almost literally confessing to being BG might actually be the killer!

This man is not a very nice person, but I no longer feel that he had anything to do with this crime. His quasi-confessions go down on the list of false confessions in this case. Counting hazy cases like this, I count four false confessions so far.

I would apologize to him  for falsely accusing him behind closed doors, but he threatened to murder me many times, so I’ll pass on that. In cases like these, possible suspects who seem like good possibilities for being the culprit are often run through the ringer, only to be dismissed. They’re often pretty suspicious people. I’d appreciate it if people would leave this fellow alone. He’s not very pleasant anyway.

Rumors That Have More Credibility

The girls’ bodies were violated with sticks and branches. We have caught Hell and high water for this one, however, this rumor has some staying power.

It showed up quickly within a week of the murders when a local young man published photos of the crime scene that he had somehow obtained. He described the murders as “occult-like” and wondered if there was an occult or Satanic connection. He described a branch plunged into the body of one of the girls.

Next, we received confirmation of this via an associate of a detective working on the case. He had told his SO details about the case, and we got the data from there. This person said the detective had told them that the girls’ bodies were violated with sticks and branches, in particular, that sticks had been inserted into the girls’ vaginas and anuses. That sounds pretty awful but this is one terrible crime.

Finally, a woman came to me and apologized. She said she had been mad at me for spreading this rumor but she had recently been able to confirm its truth via a detective in another area of LE who had seen crime scene photos. This man added that Abby had a branch plunged into her body just below her solar plexus in her chest. So far we have three verfications of this rumor, two from people who saw crime scene photos and two from LE with some overlap. Nevertheless, we still regard this rumor as unconfirmed though definitely possible with the two LE confirmations.

And the more you learn about this crime, believe me, the more you would not be surprised at the cruelty and bizarreness of abusing these girls’ bodies in this way because that seemed to be a major focus on the crime – violating, dishonoring, shaming, and debasing these girls with cruelty and contempt and then posing them in a degrading and humiliating manner. In addition, the killer’s behavior a few hours after the crime was another taunt and a cruel dancing on these girls’ graves after their deaths. This is one Hell of a dark crime.

One girl was pregnant: This has been a rumor from the very first weeks after the crime. The same woman above also apologized for being mad at me over this rumor. However, she told me that she was able to confirm this rumor via a sheriff’s deputy in nearby county. Nevertheless, I suppose it remains formally unverified, and keep in mind some of our LE sources have told us false things. The rumor is that one girl was in the very early stages of pregnancy. We are not going to say which girl it was. Based on the recent verification we got from LE, we regard as it quite possibly true, but it would be nice to get some more confirmation.

A longstanding rumor is that Libby German was killed by a deep knife cut to her neck. This was recently confirmed by a new source named Leaker, who I regard as credible. Apparently his wife accessed documents relating to the case at her job at the courthouse. I have also verified this sad fact via the girl’s own mother who saw the wound. This rumor is 100% confirmed.

A previous report said that Libby was attacked with a gut knife in her abdomen, resulting in a partial disembowelment of this poor girl. If this wound took place, it was after she was dead. A gut knife is one of the knives that would be present in that deer kit (a deer hunter’s kit containing five knives) that BG has around his waist. Partial verification of this is in the form of reports of detectives going around to local hardware stores in the weeks after the murders asking if anyone had bought a gut knife recently.

Presumably one of the wounds to the girl(s) was via this sort of a knife. On the other hand there is a new rumor that a gut knife was left at the scene. This man also lists a number of items the killer left at the scene that stretches credulity. Leaving a gut knife at the scene is unverified and seems quite dubious. A knife with no DNA? That the girl was attacked in this terrible manner is also completely unconfirmed. However, detectives definitely feel that a gut knife was used in this crime.

New Information from Leigh Kerr (Leaker)

Quite a bit of new information came out a few weeks ago via an appearance by a man named Leaker, identified above. He is a pastor who lives in Lafayette. His access to investigation documents is described above. Leaker was extremely controversial, yet for a variety of reasons, I regard him as credible. He gave us a lot of new information, much of which may be correct. Keep in mind that both local LE and FBI have commented on Leaker’s remarks, saying that nothing he said was true. But that is to be expected.

Leaker says that there is a prime suspect in the case. Based on the facts laid out, he can only mean a Delphi resident, recently moved to Monticello, who I will call Mr. X. I could use his initials but that doesn’t seem right. This man is either the prime suspect or Leaker is trying to frame him, one or the other. I think he’s the prime suspect.

According to Leaker, Mr. X was involved in the search party. At some point during the searching, he claimed to have lost his keys. His truck was parked overnight, hidden in the cemetery right above where the girls were found. It was still there the next day when the cemetery was full of police vehicles. This is because Mr. X lost his keys at some point. I believe he claims to have lost his keys while searching. Although Mr. X claims that he called his wife to come bring an extra set of car keys, his truck stayed there overnight and into the next day, which seems odd. On the afternoon after the bodies were found, Mr. X’s truck was towed.

At 6 PM, Mr. X asked permission to search Ron Logan’s land. Permission was granted. This request can be linked to the truck hidden at the cemetery as this is where he obviously was parked when he made this request, however, we do not know when the truck arrived there. Mr. X then searched Logan’s land. Although it was dusk, it would seem to be hard to miss the girls right below where his truck was parked.

Mr. X was back searching in the area on Logan’s land at 12:30 PM February 14. He and 1-3 other persons spotted the girls bodies. There is a rumor that Mr. X looked through his binoculars, spotted a deer, and then looked down and saw the girls. This seems credible to me although some say that LE just made this up as a ruse. The searchers did not come very close to the bodies. Who all found the bodies is still quite up in the air. After he found the bodies, there is a rumor that Mr. X was so traumatized that he ran from the scene. He then needed psychotherapy for some time after discovering the bodies. Both of those behaviors seem pretty over the top, even for such a gruesome crime.

Mr. X is the prime suspect for a variety of reasons. For one, there was a small change in his story.

Leaker said, in shocking news, that Mr. X’s phone was pinging at the abandoned Child Protective Services (CPS) building for several hours around the time of the murders. It is the opinion of LE that the killer parked at the CPS building while he committed his crimes. There vehicle may have been a truck. A persistent yet unconfirmed rumor is that it was a white truck. However, Mr. X’s truck is orange. LE would like very much to speak for anyone who spotted that truck at the CPS building during that time to contact LE. If the truck can be linked to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible.

Mr. X does not have a good excuse for his phone pinging at the CPS building for hours. However, cellphone data is generally not admissible in court, and anyway, Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere and his phone just happened to be pinging at the CPS building looking for a signal, so this evidence cannot be used in court. However, it is suspicious to say the very least. If Mr. X’s truck was not there the whole time, it is possible that he left his phone at the building for several hours while he committed the crime. That way his phone could not be tracked to the crime scene.

Leaker says that Mr. X had an alibi, a friend of his. This friend says he saw Mr. X elsewhere in town around the time of the murders. LE was unable to break Mr. X’s alibi via his friend. It is considered to be a solid alibi in terms of taking the case to court. Unfortunately, this friend is has since died. This complicates the case immeasurably.

According to Leaker, the only DNA on the girls’ bodies is from Kelsi, Libby’s sister. Kelsi has been cleared. Mr. X’s DNA is in the area, but he was part of the search team that discovered the bodies, so it’s not usable. Assuming he did it, see how he contaminated the scene by finding the bodies?

Leaker also said that there were religious aspects to the murders. Although the exact nature of these aspects is unknown, a rumor that a crucifix was left at the site seems credible.

Leaker also said that the girls’ bodies were posed in a sexual tableau. This seems to be correct. More on that below.

A previous report said that the killer took photos or video of the crime and sent it to Abby’s phone after the murders. This is correct, and I have additional evidence that will prove this.

A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. According to Leaker, this is correct. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the “catfish” of a young man aged 19. Libby had gotten smitten with this young man and wanted to meet him. The catfish appears to have been the killer himself. Leaker says the second sketch is a sketch of the catfish photo that the killer used to lure Libby on Snapchat where she was catfished. One of Libby’s friends had seen a photo of the catfish, and her description of it is what the second sketch is based on.

At the start of this case, LE said “be careful of what your kids are doing on social media.” The usual idiots who have swarmed this case from Day One have insisted all this time that that means nothing. However, we have been reporting for some time on here that the girls may have been catfished via social media. In fact, we were ripped up pretty severely for promoting that theory. As with so many aspects of this case, a number of the “wild, outrageous, and offensive stories” we were reporting on here from the start are turning out to be true. It’s no surprise to me. I’m a professional journalist. I have a BA in Journalism. I worked as an assistant editor of a magazine. This is one of my professions.

According to Leaker, LE feels that Libby may have posted on Snapchat that she was going to the bridge that day. We reported in a previous post that the trip was not a last minute decision, and instead, adults were discussing it in local bars on Friday night. We have been saying all along that the killer must have known the girls were going to be there that day, and he came quite amply prepared to commit this specific crime. The crime may have been plotted for four months prior to carrying it out. You can see how BG was loaded up with all that murder equipment. He’d obviously planned this out in advance.

Of course, we have been bashed for this too, and an absolutely insane theory that fails all logic tests that the killer came to the bridge that day looking to kill any victim that he might happen to spot there has been suggested in its stead. This theory fails so badly on logic alone that it’s amazing how much traction it got.

Too many people on this case seem to be afflicted with a disorder called Pathological Doubting Disorder. They have pathologically doubted everything and anything that anyone ever said about this crime. They beat their fists on the table endlessly that only verified information, not rumors, must be discussed. The problem here is that LE hasn’t told us a damned thing. If we were restricted to merely discussing what has been verified by LE, there’d be nothing to talk about. We’d all be sitting around talking about the weather instead.

Leaker also said that if the catfish can be connected to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible.

However, this will be hard to do. All attempts to find the killer’s IP addresses or texts or photos of the catfish on Snapchat have come up empty for whatever reason.

According to Leaker, Mr. X has completely cooperated with the investigation. At the time of the crime, Mr. X lived two miles from the crime scene.

Leaker also said that the crime was committed in a ravine that is hard to see from most angles. It may also be sheltered sound-wise too.

Leaker said there is more audio on Libby’s phone, but it is so garbled and hard to hear that LE did not feel it would be useful to the general public. However, Leaker said that LE cleaned the audio up and transcribed it as best as they could. BG accosted the girls and appears to have pulled his gun on them.

In brand new information, apparently one of the trail cams at the south end of the bridge where the abduction took place had been disabled. LE feels it was disabled prior to the crime. So BG came to the south end of the bridge before the crime occurred and disabled the camera. Once again, we see forward planning for this crime.

According to Leaker, after BG accosted the girls, he said he was a police officer and they were trespassing on private property (they were not). He said he had spotted them with his binoculars and had come to arrest them. I can now confirm that BG did have binoculars. BG then handcuffed the girls and said, “Down the hill.” The girls pleaded with him to let them go, that they are sorry and they won’t do it again, etc. but he told them they are under arrest.

Jesus Christ, this case is sad! Just thinking about that scenario with those girls pleading to be let go breaks my heart!

At the bottom of the hill, Libby’s shoe was found by searchers. To me this implies that she tried to run. How else does she lose her shoe?

What follows, according to the families of the girls who LE played the tape for, is six minutes of garbled conversation in which the girls and BG are talking as they walk through the woods, the sound of the forest floor crunching beneath their feet. At the six minute mark, BG and the girls can be heard starting to cross the creek, so the girls were definitely walked across the creek. This has been an odd source of contention. At that point, LE shut off the tape.

Leaker says that the audio continues after the girls crossed the creek and were marched to the kill zone, which appears to have been selected and prepared beforehand due to its visual and auditory seclusion. Next you hear a loud scream followed by a loud thump. This is apparently poor Abby screaming. The thump sound is thought to be BG hitting her over the head with a blunt object. We believe he hit her with the butt end of the handgun you can see in his right hand pocket of his jacket on the BG video. Abby may well have been knocked out cold by this blow.

Leaker concurred that Libby died via a deep knife wound to the throat. He also said that the murder weapon was a hunting knife.

I Was Able to Obtain Official Document(s) Relating to the Case!

And now I can release brand new information! I was able to obtain anywhere from 1-10 documents from the investigation. I am making the claim vague in this way because I have to protect the person I got this data from. They very much do not want it getting out that they were given these document(s). So I have to cover my tracks pretty well here because I don’t want to reveal my sources.

I’m an educated and trained journalist. One of the things we learned in J-school is that you have to protect your sources and value their confidentiality at all costs. We are supposed to go to jail instead of revealing our sources, and some of us have.

Therefore it is disconcerting to see constant accusations of me making up rumors or theories about this crime out of whole cloth. I can’t do that. That’s a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I’m an ethical journalist. I’m not talking about beating around the bushes of masking facts and truths as I did above with the documents statement. Journalists have lost their careers over doing that, and good luck getting hired again afterwards. It’s as bad as scientific misconduct is for a scientist.

Obviously I’ve been dying to get a hold of official documents about this case for four years now. We did briefly have contacts with a few LE sources, but they didn’t tell us a lot. We had maybe one LE source every two years on this case. So we don’t have any “special sources” about this case as my critics claim. What special sources? What are they talking about?

I assure you that it’s completely legal for the possessor of these document(s) to possess them. That’s all I’m going to say about that.

The document(s) came to me from the owner who lawfully possessed them..

The document(s) came from either LE or from the judicial system or possibly both at the same time. They are signed by official(s).

I was able to learn a number of things about this case from these document(s), some that have been released before, but others that have never been released or even rumored anywhere. I am absolutely certain of the truth of everything I write below based on my belief that these document(s) are authentic.

BG discharged a gun in the course of this crime. Perhaps the most amazing information of all is that this was a gun crime! The gun used was no doubt the one that can be seen in the right jacked pocket of BG. It’s a handgun. After the “guys” in the video, he apparently pulled his gun out and pointed it at the girls. He controlled them with the gun. We have assumed that from the very start of this case. But we never had any idea that a gun was fired during this crime!

We don’t know how the gun was used. We only know that it was discharged. Where, how, and why we don’t know. However, spent cartridges were found by LE, who says they were fired by BG. Did he fire them into the girls’ dead bodies? No idea. How does LE they know that the spent cartridges they found were fired by BG? No idea. But they do have spent cartridges from this crime and they are trying to find the gun used to fire them in order to do ballistics tests on it.

Leaker said that BG had binoculars. He told the girls when he accosted them that he had spotted them trespassing through his binoculars and he decided to come and arrest them. I can now verify Leaker’s statement because the document mentions binoculars. LE is looking for binoculars that were used in the crime.

There is more shocking information that was touched on earlier. I mentioned above that there was a rumor that BG had taken photos and video and had sent them to Abby’s phone after the crime. This rumor was affirmed by Leaker. However, I can now prove this is true because LE is looking for photos, videos, film, cameras, and/or videocameras. Any of those. Video were recorded by BG as he committed this crime. So he videotaped his crime as he committed it. Some people say they can see a Go Pro on BG’s person. We are uncertain about this.

Now how could LE possibly know that BG took video of his crime as he committed it? They can’t. But if he sent some of this video to Abby’s phone after the crime took place, then they know he shot video of the crime. Therefore the rumor that BG sent photos of the crime to Abby’s phone seems to be true.

In addition, the document says that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of the crime. No doubt this goes with the video that was shot, the video being of unknown length. We know this because in the documents, LE says they are looking for 43 seconds of audio.

LE is also looking for knives, presumably hunting knives as Leaker averred. The murder weapon in the case was a knife. This was not a gun crime in that a gun was not the murder weapon. That’s not to say the gun was not discharged into the victim(s) after they were deceased. Perhaps it was. We have no idea. But if that was the case, then this is still not a gun crime as the gun was not a homicide weapon. Then all BG is guilty of regarding shooting the gun would be mutilating a corpse.

LE is also looking for blood-soaked clothing. LE feels that this crime was so brutal (in particular the killing of Libby) that BG must have been covered in blood after he murdered that poor girl. The blood spray from such an attack would be serious. So LE is looking for the clothing he wore that day with bloodstains “seen and unseen.” I don’t understand the part about unseen bloodstains, but apparently when you get blood on your clothes, not all of it is visible and some can only be seen with special tools. Ever watched crime shows where they put a chemical on the crime scene that shows bloodstains as bright purple? I suppose they use that to uncover those unseen bloodstains.

Perhaps the most incredible fact in the document is LE stating that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Why is this important? On what day did this crime occur? On February 13, or 2-13. 2:13 and 2/13. Matches up, get it? Let’s play with this a bit more. He abducted and murdered 2 girls, one of whom was 13 years old. 2-13 again. 2:13, 2/13, and 2-13.

A physician friend of mine who might as well be Dr. Spock, such is his dedication to pure logic, has cast doubt on this connection. He immediately stated, “Coincidence!” (natch) when I told him about the two 2-13’s lining up perfectly.

However, LE thinks these two 2-13’s lining up perfectly was a significant enough event to be mentioned in their documents about the case. So LE thinks that fact that BG abducted those girls at precisely 2:13 in the afternoon is no coincidence.

This is all I have from these document(s). Make of it what you will. Keep in mind that these document(s) went through different people before the came to me.

Owner -> Professional -> Fellow sleuther -> Me.

There are two people between the owner and me. What do I have? I have a photocopy of the document. Could it be faked or forged? Maybe, but the professional would not do something like that. He’s as bound by his professional ethics as I am with mine.

Crime Scene Photos

I was also able to obtain some good crime scene photos for the first time. These have been out for six months now, having first appeared on Youtube in a video. They are from the same media helicopter footage as the crime scene photos we previously released here. They were presumably taken from the part of the footage where you can see many flashes going off in a circle around a location in the woods. Obviously CSI guys photographing the crime scene. These photos have been blown up and enhanced to Hell and back by everyone and their uncle. However, the photos I will discuss today are from this video.

The author is a theoretical physicist. Not that that means much, as kooks roam all fields, and kookery doesn’t discriminate, but I do think that adds weight to his analysis. Talk about logicians. We are talking about field like math where everything you say has to be backed up by formal proof. A fasifiability is a thing, and “not even wrong” is on the tip of everyone’s tongue.

The author claims a number of startling things in this video.

Outlines of the bodies of the two victims. I’ll vouch for that one.

A crucifix. Don’t see it.

A gigantic stuffed animal. No way. I can’t believe how many people believe this. Let’s not even get into the crazy discussion of this stupid stuffed animal and the dolls. That said, many things are possible in true crime, and this is one of them. I’m just not seeing it though. Extraordinary claims and extraordinary evidence and all that. God I hate that phrase but there’s a time and place for all things.

Dolls scattered around the scene. Nigga please.

An abandoned bleach bottle. Gong!

Abandoned clothing, in particular a girl’s top. Nah.

Weird messages scrawled all over the scene. I concur that one may be possible, but the rest I can’t see at all.

CSI guys wandering the scene. Nothing but blurs.

Keep in mind that for the above to be true, BG must have constructed this entire Disney World Crime Scene in a mere 45 minutes! Either he has superhuman powers or it didn’t happen. Occam’s forces me to choose the latter. How did he get all these animals and dolls down the crime scene? Come on. This crime’s weird enough as it is without taking things to outright science fiction.

Keep in mind that a lot of people claim they can’t see a damned thing in these photos, including the victims’ bodies, or that they were looking at pixels and graphics software playing games with us. Pareidolia. I hate that word, favorite of scientistic skeptards. But time and place, etc. Even the most abused notions have a proper application.

Leaker said that the girls were “posed in a sexual tableau.” That’s interesting except no one knows what it means.

John Kelly, retired FBI profiler who does excellent work and now makes his living being a media figure, felt in this recent video that the sexual tableau referred to the girls being posed in some sort of a lesbian sex act. He also suggested that BG had a deep obsession with lesbian pornography and that people around him would be aware of this. Assuming the photos below are valid interpretations, the girls are not posed in any obvious lesbian sex act. Perhaps they are posed in a milder, less than obvious one. As you can see, Abby’s hand is close to a “certain part” of Libby’s body. Whether that counts or not I have no idea.

However, assuming the images below are correct, both girls’ legs were spread very wide after they were killed. Libby was nude and Abby was nude from the waist down. That counts as sexual tableau. He did this to humiliate the girls after their deaths. One last Parthian Thrust before he walked away into the woods history. This is the posing part.

I agree with Kelly who says that killers who pose victims (“posers”) are some of the worst ones of all. They’re dark as Hell and they’re at the far end of the psychopathic spectrum. He also said that if he’s a poser, he should have killed again by now because these guys can’t control themselves, a reflection of their extreme pathology. He said that the only reason he hasn’t killed by now is because he’s afraid. Afraid that they’re onto him. Afraid of getting caught. Afraid of that one last knock on the door before the jail bars clang shut.

I have more to say about this crime as usual, but I’ve gone on long enough. More later.

I would like to apologize for the fact that these photos are very small. See if you can enlarge them. I don’t know how to fix this right now.

 

RL, LL = Right leg, left leg. This shows the right and left legs of Libby. Her legs are spread wide. Abby’s were too, as we will see below.

 

Closeup of the victims. Libby is easier to see than Abby.

 

Enhanced. Libby on the left, Abby on the right. The figures show up better in this photo. The green object appears to be a knife lodged into Libby’s right shoulder! Whether that’s what is, I’m not sure, but it’s a good guess.

 

Closeup of Libby, showing her head, hair, the knife in the shoulder, and her chest. She may be wearing a bra?

 

The first caption points to the chest of Victim 1, Libby. The second caption points to the stupid stuffed bear I don’t believe in.

 

The yellow dots show Libby. The top one is at her head and the bottom one is to her left of her stomach. The teal dots show Abby. The top one is above her head and the bottom to the right of her stomach. The red dots are the life-sized stuffed bear I don’t believe in.

 

I could not see Abby’s body for a long time, but I can see it here circled in green. Her arms and legs are spreadeagled.

 

Outlines of both victims circled. Abby in green and Libby in blue.

 

Supposedly shows the words “R U Up?” or “Are you up?” I don’t know if that’s what it shows, but it’s possible.

 

“R U UP?” Again.

 

For those of you who enjoy divining runes, here’s your oyster. “R U UP?” Again.

Alt Left: Stupidity about “Sex Trafficking”

This term has been grotesquely abused lately, starting with feminists, who equate all prostitution with “trafficking” and then the federal government, which passed a rather silly law 5-10 years against “sex trafficking.” Increasingly what you are seeing in the media is a complete conflation of  prostitution and “sex trafficking.”

In particular, anyone pimping minor females is said to be “trafficking” no matter whether there is any coercion at all. Trafficking was originally supposed to mean women who were being essentially enslaved, kept prisoner, held against their will, and forced to prostitute themselves for others. Basically sex slaves. There are a lot of forms of this coerced and imprisoned sort of prostitution in  the world, and it is an ugly thing to be sure!

But that silly federal law conflated that with any prostitution of minors. So “sex trafficking” is not just sex slavery but it’s also prostituting of minors. Which seems a bit silly. How are minors being “trafficked” if they are not being held against their will? It’s ridiculous. The crime should be something like Prostituting a Minor, along those lines. Perhaps that’s a serious offense, I have no idea. But it sure isn’t “trafficking.”

Increasingly I have seen articles, many coming out of Texas, about big roundups of “sex traffickers.” They were rounding up 50-60 men at once and the guys looked pretty ordinary. That’s an awful lot of “traffickers” to round up at once. When they do round these guys up, they usually only catch a few at a time as they are hard to catch and not particularly common anyway. So I did some research. It turned out that of those 60 men, only one of them actually trafficked in prostitutes, and even he was just prostituting minors. I have no idea if coercion or imprisonment was involved. The other 59 men were guilty of…get this: buying a teenage prostitute!

Look I’m not saying that buying an underage prostitute should be legal. But you should have to prove that he knew that she was underage or by her appearance, she could not possibly have been 18. The bizarre thing about these laws is that in many states, it is perfectly legal for any adult man to have sex with a 16-17 year old girl as long as he does it for free and doesn’t pay her. The minute he gives her some money for her treasures, it’s a crime!

Even knowingly buying an underage prostitute is not “trafficking” in any way, shape, or form. It’s a crime called “Buying a Minor Prostitute.” How in the Hell is buying a whore “trafficking?” It’s absurd.

To tell the truth, many prostitutes with pimps may be being trafficked. That’s because many pimps won’t let the girls in their stables free. They threaten to hunt them down, beat them up, or kill them if they run away from the pimp. Any prostitute in a situation like that with her pimp is indeed being trafficked.

Now buying a teenage prostitute is an odd crime. Minors are not allowed to legally prostitute themselves, but many do it anyway. And 50% of minor female prostitutes are Black. Blacks are only 13% of the population. So there’s massive over-representation of Black teenage girls in minor prostitution. Quite a few of those girls probably have psychopathic tendencies too, or will develop into psychopaths when they are adults because we are not supposed to diagnose psychopathy or any other  personality disorder in minors. Fully 45% of adult female prostitutes are psychopaths. Newsflash: whores aren’t very nice women. They not even very nice people.

A lot of them are simply criminals and ripoffs and all sorts of petty thievery and female prostitution go hand and hand. In my opinion, a prostitute and a thief are the same thing. This is what the female psychopath becomes: Histrionic Personality Disorder, the “Mata Hari” or “femme fatale” disorder. Basically what I would call a thieving whore. Many female strippers, porn stars and other sex workers are also female psychopaths or have high scores on the PCL.

Many male porn stars are the same. This was observed as far back as the 1970’s and 80’s. If you look at those old porn movies, look at how mean and evil so many of those male porn stars are. And look at how crass, loud, brassy, and cold the women are. That’s the typical whore personality: hard, cold, brassy, callous, cynical. It looks like a damaged woman. Their emotions look shut down and they’ve gone hard.

Alt Left: Definitions: Rape, Statutory Rape/Illegal Intercourse

Rape: Non-consensual sex generally involving force, the threat of force, gross deception like pretending to be another person, or drugging the victim. Everything else is gray rape and most DA’s won’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. Realistically, if she is protesting and telling you to stop and you are forcing yourself on her, it’s rape whether a DA will take it or not.

Coercion is an odd word. Anyone can coerce anyone into doing anything legal. People have been coercing me all my life. It’s not very nice, but it’s hardly rape as long as she ends up willing. It’s important to limit our definition of rape because even stranger rape is rarely prosecuted.

Almost no one ever goes down on sex with an intoxicated woman, no matter what she is intoxicated on. The feminist line that intoxicated women can never consent to sex is odd.

By this logic, intoxicated men can never consent either. Conceivably, a sober woman having sex with an intoxicated man is guilty or rape!

By the same token, an intoxicated man and an intoxicated woman are guilty of raping each other! Except of course only the man will conceivably ever go down on it.

And what of alcoholic women and women are drug addicts? Apparently every single time they have sex with anyone, they’re being raped!

Also, no one even knows what intoxicated means? At what point is someone drunk enough to not consent? Who knows!

What about other drugs – heroin, cocaine, cannabis, hallucinogens? At what point is one so intoxicated on this or that drug that they cannot consent? No one knows!

Obviously this law is ridiculously vague. All vague laws are unconstitutional and illegal because no one knows whether they are breaking them or not.

As usual, the intoxication is rape argument makes absolutely no sense, like almost everything feminists say ever. Which is a good reason to abandon feminism. It’s nothing but lies!

If you wish to know, DA’s will only prosecute on intoxicated sex as rape if she is passed out cold or passing in and out of consciousness. And even then, some video evidence might be nice. Case in point: the Steubenville boys. If she’s passed out, leave her alone! What are you, a necrophile? If she’s passing in and out of consciousness, forget it. She’s too wasted to enjoy it and half the time, you’ll be having sex with a corpse. In which case, what the Hell is wrong with you?

Logically speaking, you can coerce anyone into sex legally. If you make a condition of a job, it’s not illegal then either, but you can be sued as it’s a civil offense. As I said, anyone can coerce anyone into doing anything legal as long as there is no force or threat of force involved. If by the time she’s in bed, she’s awake and enthusiastic, it’s not important how you got her there unless you used force or the threat of force.

All affirmative consent laws are insane and stupid because no man has ever gone down on failing to read a woman’s mind properly. But if she looks terrified and unenthusiastic in bed as if you are forcing her to do something you don’t want to do, I don’t know pal, but that sounds awful rapey to me. It may be legal but that doesn’t mean it’s right.

Statutory rape (illegal intercourse): Of course teenage girls can consent, but in a legal sense we say some cannot with certain different-aged partners for various reasons, mostly that society finds the idea of adults having sex with teens of certain ages to be unsavory. Where it is consensual, the harm is almost zero.

Nevertheless, men should be advised that these laws are enforced, and nowadays they put you in prison. It’s mostly a non-issue compared to the others here. AOC varies but tends to be ~15-16 in most of the world. In European countries with AOC’s at this level, problems are very rare. This isn’t even really rape. It’s better to call it “illegal intercourse.”

Child molestation: Any sex with an adult and a child under 13 is child molestation. It has to be sex. Backrubs and shoulder pats don’t count. There has to be some sort of genital contact. As I noted in a previous post, harm varies with the degree of coercion.

Feminists should wish to recover all victims of child molestation to live full lives instead of being victims. Child molestation is illegal and should never be allowed. Some kids actually like it believe it or not (I’ve met adult women who enjoyed being molested), but we still need to keep it illegal because we do not wish to live in a society where adults have sex with kids.

Child rape: Sadly it is important to separate child rape from child molestation. This is because feminists and moral scolds have taken to conflating all child molestation as “child rape.” They’re not the same thing. Yes, small children cannot consent to sex with adults but that doesn’t mean it’s rape when it happens. Instead we use the word molestation to refer to the fact that little kids can’t legally consent. There’s no need to muddy the waters here.

Child molestation is generally “consensual” psychologically. However it is not consensual legally because we say that kids can’t consent to sex with an adult. Almost all sex with kids is molestation, not rape. Child rape does exist and it is a severe crime. It often involves strangers, abductions, threats, weapons, and violence. It’s always non-consensual by definition. In some cases, the children are physically harmed or even killed.

The consequences can certainly be long-lasting, even affecting the victim over a lifetime. Nonetheless, women seem to be able to get over rape. I know a number of women who were raped and got over it fine. I’ve only met one woman raped as a child and she won’t discuss it. And yes, it was pretty bad. Two 11 year old girls raped at knifepoint. As bad as it gets.

Pedophilia: This is simply a sexual orientation like homosexuality that means the primary or sole attraction is to children under 13. Hebephilia (primary attraction to pubescents age 12-14) and ephebephilia (primary attraction to teenagers) are not included in pedophilia.

These men cannot help their condition and need to be helped to manage it so they do not offend. There are now organizations of virtuous pedophiles dedicated to pedophiles who have committed themselves to non-offending. Pedophilia cannot be combated or prevented because we have no idea what causes it. There’s no way to fight it because it simply exists.

Alt Left: About That “Russian” Hack of Our Sensitive and Classified Data

You know the story where they say “Russia” hacked into all of this secret government websites? Got some news for you. It didn’t happen.

They’re lying through their teeth. The had no idea whatsoever who did it or if they did, they didn’t want to put the finger on them. It was an extremely sophisticated operation beyond the reach of many countries, granted. And it could only have been by a sophisticated country, grant it.  But look at the evidence.

“It has all the hallmarks of a Russian operation.”

They keep saying this about everything that happens that they don’t understand. I guess “hallmarks of Russia” just means some sophisticated operation. They’ve never presented any evidence that Russia was behind any of these things they’ve accused it of. They just put the finger on them whenever they figure out who did something. They failed to present any evidence whatsoever of any Russian involvement in this attack. IT people who looked at the internals of the attack said it was sophisticated, but there was no evidence to pin on Russia.

So, Russia didn’t do it. Ok? Take my word on that.  So who did it?

We have now figured out who seems to have done this massive spy operation. All roads in the investigation lead to…Israel! I don’t know the details right now but it has something to do with that Four Winds company and their software. The company is Israeli-owned. The software is written by Israelis. Whitney Webb  has all the details, as usual. Check her out. She’s a “conspiracy theorist,” but  every single thing  she writes checks out.

I was talking to a very connected former Marine on the phone one time a while back. I have no idea why he talked to me. He seemed to know just about everything about everything, specializing in intelligence and especially military matters. I brought up Israeli influence in the US, and he said, “Yeah we got totally penetrated by them in the early 80’s, I think 1983, and we’ve never been able to get rid of them since.”

We have literally handed over the locks and keys to this country to Israel. They get whatever the Hell they want.  We’ve given them backdoors to much of our state dealings. There are rumors that they spy and gather blackmail material on high up US government officials.

It’s particularly outrageous how we have handed over our spy network and security apparatus to these people. Homeland Security. You got it. I was stunned when I did research on Homeland Security. Almost all of their apparatus had been handed over to Israeli firms. Much of our internal spying apparatus in the US has been handed over to Israeli firms as has  airport security, etc.

A lot of the training our rather brutal police forces has been done by Israel, which probably accounts for the brutality. The idea is that Homeland Security and the US state are using all of these apparatuses to spy on us and do security for us. But the nuts and bolts were outsourced to Israel. You don’t think they might be listening in?

I’d trust one of those people as far as I could throw them. They’re some of the least trustworthy people out there. I assume that Israel has simply taken over a lot of our internal security and spying operations. Phone network spying? Check, Israeli. Cell phone network? Check, Israeli. It seems Israel could have access to much of our phone communication. And why are they running our security apparatus, say at airports?

There are a lot of new surveillance mechanisms and apparatuses coming online. Scary stuff. Guess who’s in back of a lot of them? Yep. Israel.

It was Israel who penetrated all of those secret US sites and classified material. I don’t know why they bothered. They could have just asked and we probably would have handed it over. Israel’s been spying on us for a very long time now. My understanding is that the government is pretty well “penetrated” by Israeli spies. Further a number of American Jews in the US government have repeatedly been caught acting as de facto agents of Israel, in other words, agents of a foreign power. That’s illegal but no one persecutes them because Jews get to do whatever they want to in these stupid country.

Alt Left: What’s With US’ Fanatical Support for Israel?

Judeophilia, shekeling, or blackmail? Which is it?

I don’t get it. From the sound of it, Americans are just Judeophiles. Polls repeatedly show support for Israel  around 50% and often a majority towards 60%. Doesn’t sound good but support for Palestinians is generally ~15% with not much upward trend.

Sure it seems like the US is simply a bunch of Jew-loving fools, fanatical Judeophiles. Well, fine, but that’s pretty stupid. Why don’t we hand the country over to Swedes or Vietnamese, or Hmong, or Cubans, or Japanese, or whoever. What are the Jews? Just another ethnic group; in other words, a tribe of humans. Tell me why they are so special?

To me they’re no more special than the Ingush, the Tigreans, the Karens, the Garifura, the Muong, the Naga, the Yakuts, the Han, the Basques, the Azeris, the Kyrgyz, the Akan, the Mapuche or name any nationality where the people are of a certain type. The Jews are just another pissant little petty tribe of humans that don’t want any special treatment positive of negative. Who cares about them. Sure, but why hand over the keys of the kingdom to this petty and fanatically ethnocentric tribe or ethnic group. What’s the point?

On the other hand, there might be the shekeling. Both political parties are shekeled to the hilt. Jewish money provides 60% of the funding for the Democrats and 30% for the Republicans. Presumably most politicians are taking money from AIPAC, the rightwing organization that encompasses most pro-Israeli organizations in the US.

Every now and then, every President and many Senators make a sojourn to the AIPAC convention to fall all over themselves with their love for the wonderful Jewish people and Israel. The fawning is almost suspect. Are they paid off with campaign contributtions? The fanatical love that US politicians even at the state level have for this shitty little country is hard to figure. There’s something weird about it. It doesn’t seem normal.

On the other hand, are they being blackmailed? The Epstein Affair was a Mossad honeypot operation using underage girls to get powerful US men in business and government on film having sex with underage girls. All of the men having sex with those underage girls were filmed by Epstein. He kept these in a safe.

The FBI reportedly confiscated many of these blackmail tapes. Suspiciously, absolutely nothing has come of it though no doubt there are tapes of many prominent men committing statutory rape or illegal intercourse with underage girls. Why won’t the FBI prosecute these men? What’s up with that? It’s been rumored for some time that Israel is in possession of a tape of Bill Clinton having sex with a 13 year old girl and they used this to blackmail him.

The Epstein operation has been proven to have been run by Mossad. Epstein was a Mossad asset. He was recruited in 1986 and he stayed an Israeli asset for the next 34 years. At some point, he started his blackmail operations. Ghislane Maxwell, his partner in crime, is absolutely a Mossad asset. Her father Robert Maxwell was an out and out Mossad spy. He was one of the richest men in the UK, ran a huge media network and was probably one of the worst men on Earth. A real scumbag. Spent his whole life lying, cheating, thieving, conspiring, sleazing out, backstabbing, and apparently blackmailing.

At some point he was apparently running the same blackmail operation for Israel that Epstein was running. These operations are called brownstones based on the fact that they used to be housed in brownstone buildings. The CIA has reportedly run brownstones with underage teenage girls, boys and possibly even prepubescent children (!!) all over the world for decades.

These are full of cameras and the CIA uses these houses to get powerful men on tape having sex with underage people, hence they are blackmailed by the CIA. Oh, and the CIA runs the US media more or less. The whole US media works closely with the CIA. Look up Operation Mockingbird. So these blackmail tapes can be suddenly leaked to the media should any of the blackmailees prove disobedient to the CIA. A lot of powerful men are being blackmailed this way.

Reportedly, somebody is in possession of a tape of Lindsay Graham having sex with an underage teenage boy and somebody is using this to blackmail him. This might explain his sudden 180 degree flips on various political matters and his wanton worship of some politicians, notably Trump this last time around.

Delphi Murders Update January 21, 2021

This post has been updated two times. See here for the March 26 update and here for the even more insane April 4 update.

This is a long-awaited update to the Delphi Murders case. You wonder why I have not published, but it was due to how I was treated. I was reported to the police probably 40 times for being the murderer or for being a “pedophile” (I wasn’t aware that being a pedophile was against the law). I was reported to the IRS 20 times. I was interviewed by a detective as a suspect in the murders. Too bad I hadn’t left California in 3 1/2 years!

I wrote a lot about sexual aspects of the case and this got turned into an idea that I was writing about my sexual fantasies of raping and murdering teenage girls! None of these things other than being the killer would mean anything even if it were true. After all, it’s actions not thoughts that count in this world. But if it makes you feel better, there’s nothing to any of it. I received more death threats than I can count.

Getting down to lesser complaints, it was said that I deliberately made up lies about this case out of whole cloth in order to get more hits! It was said that I was ripping people off by charging for the forum but if you knew the time I put in, I doubt if I made minimum wage.

At first it was free, but we had to get rid of that. See all those posting restrictions on public forums. We were trying to avoid that. We started charging $10 to get in, but we had spies and enemies paying the $10 and then taking our private material out of the group and posting. We went up to $20 to keep spies and enemies out. It worked.

The site’s not monetized so that doesn’t matter, but I have a BA in Journalism and have worked in the field. If there’s one thing that will kill your career, it’s that, and my records clean after decades of published journalism. We charge money for a private forum that met to investigate the crime. There was a tremendous amount of information about the crime there – in fact, it was one of the largest databases for materials about this case around.

We made it private because we were talking about real people as suspects and doxxing people. I’m not sure if there’s a legal liability there, but we were trying to avoid that. It was also done to protect the privacy of our members. Contrary to rumor, we never listed anyone’s name as a suspect for the crime. We did bring up some names but mostly to say that they were cleared or they were not involved. Their names were brought up because they were being passed around.

Some of these people have made it a mission to hunt me down and do unknown threatening things to me. I never realized that pointing out someone was innocent was deserving an ass-beating! We did have one suspect that we were looking at for a long time, but we never published his name one time on this site nor did I publish it anywhere on the Net.

I have never published the names of people we were investigating on the site or anywhere else. Some people got mad because we were looking at them, but don’t worry. We investigated everyone and their brother for this crime. Not many people were off-limits. And of course we looked at family members.

Another rumor says the families hate me. I wouldn’t care if it was true but I do have a good relationship with one of the three parents.

We never had an “secret, special, inside or otherwise sources.” We listed anonymous sources a lot because that’s what we do in journalism! The anonymous sources somehow drove people into a frenzy.

Law enforcement worked with some of us a little bit, but not much. They requested some material from us and we gave it to them. A local sheriff’s deputy was one of the most active members of our group. It was and is extremely difficult for us to get law enforcement (LE) sources, but now and then, we get lucky.

It somehow got out that we had a prime suspect in this case. It was more like my prime suspect. He’s done a number of very suspicious things in relation to this crime, including recording numerous videos inferring that he killed the girls. A lot of his other behavior was suspicious too. Turns out we now feel that he was a dead end and he’s not implicated in the crime.

He’s still a lousy person and he threatened to murder me many times. But he didn’t kill those girls and that’s all that counts. Contrary to rumor, his name was never published one time on this site or anywhere else on the Net. I’d apologize to him but he sent me too  many death threats to bother with that and he’s a scumbag anyway. A scumbag? Sure. A homicidal scumbag? Guess not.

Anyway, we recommend that people turn their attention away from this man.

He’s just one of many, of course. There have already been several false confessions in the crime already.

We do have a lot of new information that I have never seen published anywhere but some of the Facebook groups seem to have been privy to some of this data. Anyway, the rest of the world has never heard of it, so here goes.

The motive for the crime has been revealed:

For a long time there was much controversy about whether there was a sexual assault in this crime. I always thought there was because any time a man murders two teenage girl strangers in this fashion, there’s almost always a sexual component, rape, torture, sexual sadism. The rape and torture are motivated by the sexual sadism.

Anyway, the motive for the crime was the rape of Abbie Williams. I will sit back and let that settle for a bit. I don’t have any specifics on what exactly he did to her sexually, but the sex act was definitely consummated, let’s put it that way. I’m not sure if she was raped while alive or dead. That’s unclear.

Both girls appear to have been bound with ropes behind their backs. We know this because Libby German’s fingernails were covered with bruises and dirt. That means she was digging her fingers into the ground behind her back while being assaulted.

Libby German had numerous defensive wounds on her hands and arms. It appears she put up quite a bit of a fight.

The girls were controlled with a gun. You can see the gun clearly in his right jacket pocket. I can’t believe people still think it’s a rumor. A fifth grader could have figured that out. He pulled the gun on them and  controlled them with it.

The video of UNSUB (the suspect) was taken by Libby’s cellphone. There were also trail cams active at the time. We do not know what photos, if any, were captured there. The murders themselves may even have been recorded by trail cams, but this is uncertain. An audio of the murders may also have been recorded on Libby’s phone. This is uncertain. Obviously this material cannot be released. The reason only the small snippet of voice recording has been released is that that is all there is. There is a lot of other recording from the phone, but it is all muffled and inaudible.

The girls were both definitely marched across the creek by UNSUB.

The pack around UNSUB’s lap is as we said forever a deer kit. Deer kits contain ~5 different knives that are used to cut up a deer carcass after you kill it. This is a bit disturbing because it implies that he may have seen the girls were like wild animals that get hunted legally every year. We do not know if that is a go-pro on his forehead, and we also do not know if the crime was recorded.

But we are now 100% certain that UNSUB brought his own camera or whatever sort to the crime, and he used to it take pictures at the crime scene.

We are also now certain that Abbie also had a phone during the crime. Her phone also played a role in the crime.

Abbie was raped, correct, and the sex act was completed, that is, UNSUB ejaculated. I don’t have any further details than that nor do I know the nature of the sex acts. Hence, police absolutely have DNA because they have sperm cells from UNSUB’s semen. In addition, they have epithelial cells from UNSUB’s skin. The samples match.

There are reports that the crime occurred over an extended space. Supposedly the “crime scene” starts at the Robinson family’s backyard near the dump spot and extends 1,000 yards to the dump site. We don’t know what that means. Maybe it means he was chasing them as they were running away from him and he was attacking them while they ran. But we still don’t know if this rumor is even true.

It is still not known that the girls were killed at the dump site or that they were murdered on the day they disappeared at all. There are continuing rumors that they were removed from the scene and taken to a barn (apparently the Mears’ barn) where they were kept for some time and then returned to the crime scene, dead.

The Mears barn was prominent in one of our theories for a while and it is interesting that it is coming back.

We had an investigator at the barn and he talked to the owners. He mentioned a rumor that the girls were murdered in the barn and he said that their faces both went hard, cold, and pale. They said nothing. He considered that an ominous sign. Also we did discover a small flower set in the barn that looks like the sort of flowered memorials that are left at death sites along highways. In addition, the barn was absolutely searched by cadaver dogs during the search of Lucas’ property.

The rest of his property was also searched by the cadaver dogs. We don’t know what they found. Keep in mind that none of this means that the barn was used in the killings, but it is only interesting that this old theory we thought was dead and buried has experienced a recrudescence. There is a problem with the barn information at the moment, in that it is all coming from a single source, and some people think she is trying to misdirect theories about the crime. Everything about a barn or that barn is completely speculation at this point.

For the moment, we assume that the girls were killed at the scene. Indeed, reports said, “It was all over in 40 minutes.” That means that they were dead by 3 PM. UNSUB was seen hiking away from the crime scene at 3:15 PM. So you can see, there is also evidence that they were killed at the scene. Arguing against that once again are reports that the site was searched more than once the night before.

In addition, Ron Logan described the crime scene as “pristine.” I assume that this is when the police left, but how many homicide sites are “pristine?” It seems a bit odd. Once again, we have no evidence that they were killed away from the dump site and the theory that they were killed at the site remains the best one.

If they were killed in the barn then they would have been returned to the dump site later, probably in the middle of the night. Investigators discovered the dump site by following two sets of footprints downhill from the graveyard to the crime scene. This descending pair of footprints is not explained and it hard to figure a theory for why they are there.

We now have repeated statements that the dump site was absolutely searched during the searches the night before. There were no girls there when they searched. Of course, maybe the girls were there, and searchers were mistaken that they searched the site.

The crime scene was absolutely disturbed. At least two and possibly more searchers touched the bodies. Two searchers tried to revive the girls by mouth to mouth resuscitation. This seems odd if we were dealing with 21 hour cold corpses. Anyway this has contaminated the crime scene.

There is no evidence that police botched the investigation in any way. Everyone is saying that because that’s what people say when a killer cannot be found. But quite a few killers are very hard to catch even by the best police and a large number are never caught and die with their secrets. A homicide case open for three years or even a cold case is not evidence of a botched investigation. Botched investigations are not common in the US.

As I said, the murder weapons were knives as we knew from the start. Libby had her throat cut so badly that she was nearly beheaded. There was a scarf tied around her neck at the funeral to hide this wound. People have attacked this story endlessly, but it is fact. For one thing, I spoke to Libby’s mother and she verified the wound to me and in tears told me that she was the one who tied the scarf around her neck to hide the wound.

The story that Libby was wearing a scarf at the funeral has also been attacked with attendees saying  they never saw a scarf on either girl. However, we are in possession of a photograph of Libby’s funeral. In the photo, you can see her casket and you can make out Libby inside of it. Indeed she has a scarf tied around her neck. We have decided not to release this photo. I assume all of this stuff will come out at some time or another as old crime scene photos of all sorts tend to make their way onto the Net after a decade or two.

There is also a strong rumor that Libby was attacked with a gut knife. A gut knife is included in a deer kit. It is used to for gutting a deer. Libby was stabbed in her abdomen to such an extent that her intestines were protruding from her body. This leads to the horrifying implication that he gutted her body as if it was a dead deer. One wonders if UNSUB is a deer hunter? Additional evidence supporting the story of Libby being gutted in this way is in the form of several reports of detectives in hardware stores a week or two after the crime, asking if anyone had bought a gut knife recently.

There are continuing rumors that the crime scene was staged and that UNSUB left a signature or particular style that was his own at the scene. We reported earlier that UNSUB had stabbed the girls with sticks and branches. Sticks and branches were shoved into both girls’ vaginas and anuses. In addition, Abbie was impaled with a large branch which was plunged into her body right below her solar plexis. The cause of death of Abbie continues to be a single knife wound to the heart.

We heard this rumor first when someone in the community had crime scene photos and published them to his blog the evening of the crime. He thought the killing was some sort of a Satanic ritual and he was the first source about the story of sticks and branches being shoved into the girls’ bodies. We talked about a possible Satanic theme to the crime in early blog posts and were ripped to pieces over it. The reason we wondered about that was due to this young  man’s crime scene photos and his description of them.

This rumor was later verified by the wife of a detective. He could not sleep at night and finally broke down and told his wife about the murders. She also stated that sticks and branches were shoved into the girls’ bodies.

Now we have a third source, a detective from a different branch of LE. This confirms once again the story about sticks and branches being shoved into the girls’ bodies. So we now have three sources for that story.

However, there is no evidence for the Satanic nature of the crime. This was only theorized early on due to the bizarre things that were done to the girls’ bodies. Both bodies were staged and posed.

UNSUB may have used some sort of bleach to kill DNA at the crime scene. In the photo, UNSUB  has a bottle of something in his left pocket. We could never figure out what it is but it seems to be toilet cleaner. This consists of a lot of bleach. Some substance containing bleach, possibly toilet cleaner, may have been thrown onto the body of at least one of the girls. It was tossed onto her the area of her genitalia and lower abdomen. We don’t know which girl he threw this stuff on.

Abbie was nude below the waist and Libby was completely nude so the killer disrobed the girls.

We published rumors that one of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. We have been ripped to pieces over this story probably more than any other. However, we recently were able to verify the story via a sheriff’s deputy in a neighboring county. He said that the autopsy revealed that one of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. We are not going to reveal which girl was said to be pregnant but maybe we will later. So we now have many unverified and one excellent verified source for this story.

Perhaps the strangest of the new evidence is that Abbie and the murderer had known each other for 3-4 months before the crime. So she knew her killer and he knew her. He apparently met her on social media. A social media link was reported by police early on. Since he was on her social media, he absolutely knew that both girls were on the trails that day.

There are stories that the journey to the bridge was a last minute decision but we now have information that it had been planned since at least the previous Friday. We have a report that people were discussing Abbie and Libby’s upcoming trip to the bridge at a local bar on Friday night. And there seems to have been continuing discussion over the weekend.

As you can see, the killer was very prepared. He knew exactly where the girls would be and at what time. The idea of a random serial killing is nonsense. The killer has no DNA match in the many databases in the Rust Belt that were searched. But LE may have been able to identify the killer by DNA in some other way.

There is now a story that the killer took photos of the presumably dead girls at the crime scene. Photos of the dead girls from the crime scene were sent to Abbie’s phone after the murders, possibly on the evening of the crime.

This killer seems to be using cellphones and social media. And we can’t find him? Color me confused.

Police may or may not have a particular suspect that they are looking at. We are getting conflicting  stories on that. But if they do have a suspect, the killer may be a local. There is also a rumor that the killer may have a close relationship with the girls’ families. This means someone either in the extended families or in their extended friends group. Keep in mind that this not yet v verified. However, a familiar name from early in the investigation of someone in and around the extended families has been mentioned. I do not know if LE actually considers this man to be a suspect.

There are persistent rumors that LE may have a suspect, but simply do not have enough on them to file. We received this information for the first time from an LE officer who works for the Presidential Secret Service, the branch that protests Presidents, their families, and even Presidential candidates. We received this story about one month after the crime.

The implication is that LE have a lot of evidence, but problems with the case have made it difficult to file against any possible murderer. This is presumably making the DA balk at filing charges as DA’s will not take a homicide case to court unless they think they are pretty sure that they can win it.

LE investigated many suspects. They also looked very hard at a family angle.

A well-known and prominent member of one of the families was kept under surveillance by a detective for nine months after the  crime. The detective even followed this person when they went on a vacation with their families a considerable distance away. The surveillance ended after 10 months. We don’t know why this person was being investigated and tailed, but apparently LE thought they might have had something to do with the crime. This person is no longer under investigation and LE don’t think he was involved.

LSD and the LSD Manufacturing Underground in California, 1965-1990

Doses were pretty strong back in the day. The stuff around nowadays,  if you can even find it, is pretty weak.  It comes on blotter paper with some goofy caricature on it and it’s usually around 50 micrograms. Sure, you get a trip, but you get a much heavier trip when you start upping the dose up to 100 micrograms.

LSD back  then used to range from 250-500 micrograms. The famous Orange Sunshine LSD had 500 micrograms per pill. I took 125 micrograms one time, and that was plenty enough, thank you very much. I think I did take 250 micrograms once. That was one Hell of a trip, man.

Orange Sunshine was all manufactured by Timothy Leary’s group in Laguna Beach called The Brotherhood of Eternal Love, situated mostly in Laguna Canyon. My friends used to go down there and they said there would be these hippie guys sitting way up high in the eucalyptus trees. They were lookouts. The Brotherhood distributed millions of tabs of that variety of LSD, and they made a ton of money off of it.

Most LSD around this time was being manufactured by a man named Owlsley. I don’t think they ever caught him. I saw a documentary on TV about LSD in 1990.

The DEA agent said 90% of the LSD in the whole world comes out of the US, and almost all of that comes out of the Bay Area around San Francisco, California, where a few very secretive manufacturers make it. The DEA at the time had found it almost impossible to bust these manufacturers and there had not been a big bust in many years. Probably hard to get a good informant to work with you on a case like that in that part of California either, as anybody who knew anything about it was very secretive, a sort of a hidden hippie drug manufacturer underground.

LSD is quite difficult to manufacture and you almost need a Chemistry degree to make even one batch. I’m told that making it is pretty crazy because when you do, the stuff gets all over you, and you end up ingesting the stuff the whole time you’re making it. So you’re frying the whole time you make a batch, a process that could last a month or so. I don’t think I could handle a month-long trip. An 8-hour trip was bad enough.