Black Identity Politics – Beyond Highbrow

Black Identity Politics Seems to Actually Be Bad for Black People

On a side note Robert, do you think many American blacks carry a victim mentality that is irritating to you?

Unfortunately, most of them do just that. It’s very unappealing but it’s understandable why they feel that way. It’s hard to admit that your race is fucking up on purpose or can’t get its shit together for some reason.

I wish Blacks would stop identifying with their race. Are you a respectable, accomplished, polite Black woman? Good! We’re not talking about you when we bitch about Blacks. It ain’t about you, honey! We’re talking about all those others of your race that aren’t like that. But see? That real nice, polite, respectable, decent Black woman over there? She’s identifying with those ghetto animals. The good Blacks identify with ghetto Blacks. “They’re my people!”

No they’re not. I wish the Blacks who have their shit together and are decent people would just stop seeing themselves as primarily Black. You’re a Black woman? No, you’re not! You’re a woman, dammit. Just an ordinary woman like all the rest of them. Yeah, you happen to be Black, but so what? Why is that so important? What difference does it make? You’re a woman who just so happens to be Black, and the fact that you are Black doesn’t have a damn thing to do with anything. So quit identifying with it!

See? It’s hard for decent Blacks to say, “I am Black.” It feels shameful because they’re identifying with a group that fucks up so much when the good Blacks don’t have anything to do with that behavior! Yet they feel compelled to defend it.

Stop! Try something different. Instead of saying, “I am Black,” say, “I am a woman!” There. Now doesn’t that feel a lot better? Women aren’t a screw-up problem race that fucks up all the terrible, acts awful, causes a ton of crime, is rude, impolite, crude and mean, and who act and often are stupid. Women aren’t even a race at all. They’re a gender.

Women aren’t any of those things! You can’t think of a lot of terrible things to say about women because women are pretty much ok. So identify with the group that’s got it’s shit together and is pretty much an ok group of folks. That takes the weight off your shoulder of having to identify with a bunch of bad actors when you don’t even act that way yourself!

You’re a Black man? Like Hell you are! You’re a man, just like me, him, and all the rest of us. You are part of the society of men, and that is where your primary allegiance lies. You’re one of the boys! You’re part of our gang, provided you like Whites that is.

When you say, “I am Black,” you are identifying with a fuck-up race, in particular with the men of that race who act much worse than the women, as is the case with most ethnic groups.

Men act bad. White men act bad. But not real bad. Not too bad.

Compared to that, Black men act horrendous, and frankly they are one of the most problematic and problematic groups of humans on Earth.

So you’re a Black guy who acts good, is a nice guy, is polite and decent, stays out of jail, and doesn’t fuck up in life. You’re like a typical White guy except you’ve got some dark skin. If you act good, why do you want to identify with all these fuckups who act awful? You don’t even act awful yourself! Your behavior is just fine.

So quit seeing those fuckups as part of “my group.” If it’s hard for a woman to say she’s Black, it’s nine times harder for a Black man to say he’s Black. You have to take responsible for a whole shitload of pure awfulness. You are identifying with the worst behaved group of people on Earth. Except possibly Gypsies.

So quit identifying with them! Instead of saying, “I’m a Black man,” say, “I’m a man! Just like that White guy over there. We’re all the same. We’re just a bunch of guys.”

Doesn’t it feel so much better to say, “I’m a man” than to say “I’m Black?” Who cares if you’re Black anyway? Why is that even important?

When you say, “I’m a man,” you look out there at the entire world of men and most of us pretty damn good. And even when we fuck up and act bad, most of us don’t act that bad, and as a man, you can identify with some of that IDGAF and bad boy behavior.

Alt Left: Why Identity Politics Is Alive, Has an Individual Ego, Does Not Wish to Die, and Is Essentially Fascistic at Its Core

Polar Bear: The Social Left is more loony and emotional than ever. “Whites need to be silent but we also need to end White silence.”

Sure, I work in mental health, and I assure you that the Social Left is essentially mental disorder spread out over an entire movement. People don’t understand. They think only individuals get mentally ill. It’s not so.

Entire groups of people get mentally ill at once. We call it a shared disorder. Entire ethnic groups or societies can become mentally ill, and the disorder looks exactly like it does in an individual. In that sense, groups themselves actually have egos, psyches, etc.

What is an individual? An ego. What is a group of individuals? A mass of egos all together. As an individual can become egotistical, paranoid, projecting, etc., so can a group. In that case the amassing of individual egos creates something like a “group ego.”

So we can see entire ethnic groups and nation states as having “individual” egos, defense mechanisms, projections, psyches, and mental disorders. Every part of an individual’s psyche can probably become part of the group psyche. In this sense, entire ethnic groups and even nations are like “people” or can be constructed as a person, the way turn of the century cartoons had avatars that represented entire countries, for instance, France represented as Beatrice.

And this is why nationalism is so dangerous. All Identity Politics is just nationalism and suffers from all of the problems(and I would argue mentally disordered thinking) that goes along with nationalism. For Identity Politics is just the “nationalism” of whoever your identity nation is.

Normal nationalists may be Syrians, Turks, Russians, Chinese, or whatever, but in IdPol, people are members of the Female Nation, the Gay Nation, the Black Nation, the Jewish nation (although this blurs with actual nationalism), the Woke Nation, and even, yes, the White Nation because White nationalism is just as insipid and mentally disordered as any other IdPol, except it’s probably worse because the hatred is so severe, on the surface, and often acted out with violence.

Politics can become nations. Communists are often members of the “Communist nation,” being all Communists. Antifa adherents are members of the Antifa Nation, to the extent such a thing can exist at all with anarchists. Even politics now, ordinary Left and Right, seems like forms of nationalism. Democrats are members of the Liberal Nation or Democratic Nation. Republicans are members of the Conservative Nation or Republican Nation.

What is interesting is that all of these IdPol groups will behave precisely like the nationalisms of ethnic groups or nation-states. Look at how nationalists act, especially ultranationalists, which is another word for fascists. Look at the similarities with IdPol.

This is how IdPol in its extremes seems fascistic.

Feminazis anyone? But feminazis often call themselves socialists. Ever heard of Gay Nazis? Black and Hispanic nationalists can seem fascistic, though they often call themselves Communists. Look at Farrakhan (a “Black Nazi”) and the Azteca Movement (“Hispanic Nazis”). Both look surprisingly fascistic, all the way down to the typical antisemitism of so many fascist movements.

In this way, a lot of “Communists” in the imperial core are actually fascists. Any “Communist” who supports separatisms such as female or lesbian separatism, Black separatism with a Black state in the South, or Hispanic separatism with an Aztlan state in the West is really just a fascist. If you were a real Communist, you wouldn’t be shutting the door to other workers just because they’re White or men or whatever.

Communism and Left Populism tends to be inclusive and led by the oppressed or underdogs.

Fascism and Right Populism tends to be exclusive and led by privileged or ruling groups who bizarrely say they are being discriminated against by their own minorities! Mostly they are afraid of losing their power due to some economic, political or demographic threat.

Hence, “Communism” in the imperial core, with its support for the various mental disorders known as Black, Hispanic, female, and lesbian separatism, has always been more fascist than Communist. This is probably one reason why it has failed so badly. It demonizes far too many proletarians for having the wrong skin color or genitals.

White nationalists of course have always been true fascists and often more or less Nazis in one way or another.

Although they really aren’t, conservatives call Antifa fascists. They’re more Communists but you can see above how these fascist movements often cloak themselves in the colors of socialism and Communism because they see themselves as oppressed.

Antifa is exclusive as it deliberately excludes and discriminates against Whites in some places like the Autonomous Zone in Seattle, and their “fascism of the oppressed; i.e. Western Leftism” is really not a whole lot different from the true fascism of a ruling group threatened with the loss of its power either politically, economically, or demographically. For an example, see American White nationalists. They’re coming from completely different places, and they typically want to murder each other, but really they’re more alike than different.

Zionazis? Ever heard of people calling Israelis fascists? Israel is indeed a fascist country, especially now under Netanyahu, a classic fascist on the model of the fascism of the 1920’s, which is he reduplicating via his heir Jabotinsky. See The Iron Wall by Jabotinsky, 1921. Not only does Jabotinsky express admiration for existing fascists, he lays the blueprint for a Jewish fascist state. And the project in the book looks like a printout of the Likud Party’s positions.

The group is alive. All groups are alive. As individuals don’t want to die, groups often don’t want to die either. That’s why movements like feminism and gay rights won’t just disband and take off already even though they’ve gotten most of what they want.

“Feminism” is like an individual person; the movement itself is “alive” like a person is alive. In addition, many mentally disordered people (this is especially prominent in feminism where almost all of the women are disordered) gain a sense of identity or even have their entire identity tied up in the movement.

Furthermore, the movement, while being an extension of their own disorder, also needs to stick around in order to keep the disorder going. Typically the disorders in movements like these are characterological, and at any rate, they are very ego-syntonic. No woman is wailing about how some part of her is forcing her to become a feminist against her wishes. That would be a neurosis or ego-dystonic anxiety disorder.

Without the movement, these people tend to flounder. They are quite characterologically disordered, so this gets in the way of a lot of real relationships in actual Meatspace, itself being different from the “space” inhabited by the movement. They get quite lost and typically start looking around for another movement to attach themselves to gain a sense of purpose in what is now a purposeless life.

They often grab the nearest movement that comes along, even one in complete contradiction to their previous one, to attach to like a remora onto a shark. This is why you see people flipping from fascist to communist and vice versa (the turn from Far Left in university to Far Right at 40 is typical of many upper class Latin Americans). You see feminists becoming radical anti-feminists. You see far Leftists like David Horowitz and many other neocons doing complete flips and becoming raving reactionaries, albeit with a Wilsonian window dressing to cover their “humanitarian massacres.”

Alt Left: Why Identity Politics Gets Crazier Every Year, and Why It Has To

Every year things get a little bit better for all of these groups, so they are less oppressed. Instead of throwing a party like they should, they jump up and down even harder and yell that they are oppressed more than ever.

And all the while the move the Oppression Goalposts a bit further away and declare a number of behaviors and speech forms which were previously harmless now forms of hate and hate speech. The need to continually be oppressed even while their lives get better and better is the reason that IP gets a little bit more insane every year.

Do you follow?

Obviously feminism in the Current Year is more insane than it’s ever been. Black IP is nuttier and more extremist than it’s ever been. Gay IP has never been crazier. Pretty soon we will be homophobes if we refuse to put a cock in our mouths.

I’m already seeing a few signs of this mindset here and there with Gay IP people saying that being a heterosexual man is inherently homophobic in and of itself. The only way to stop being a mean homophobe gay hating Nazi and be nice to teh geyz is to go find yourself a nearby penis and put it between your lips, I guess. That way you’re bisexual which is now the only way not to be a homophobic bigot, I suppose.

Of course the trannies are more nuts than ever. Their particular form of IP is new, so the goalposts are flying away faster than you can run. This is typical of any newly created IP which needs to go into overproduction mode to catch up to all of the more advanced forms of oppression who have gathering grudges and insults for decades.

It’s true that the older fave oppressions don’t grow nearly as quickly because they’ve already concluded that half of daily life by the oppressive Other somehow oppresses them in some way or other. In other words, they’re running out of things to complain about. The only solution is to start complaining about nuttier and nuttier things, to get even more sensitive, and to increase the crazy demands on the evil oppressor Other a bit more.