The Catholic Church’s Official Position on the Old Testament

The Holy Catholic Church firmly believes, professes, and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to Divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the Sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally.

Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel, they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation of the Gospel, it asserts they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation.

All therefore who after that time observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation unless someday they recover from these errors…

In other words, Replacement Theology. And as Catholicism is the one and true Christianity and Protestantism has always been born of a deviation and has continued in that spirit ever since, this is the last word on the subject. The OT has no significance in Catholic theology. I used to go to Mass here, and the homilies always had to do only with the New Testament.

In other words, the OT isn’t even Christianity or at least it’s not anymore if one sees Christianity logically as the outgrowth of Judaism that it can only be. And all of these Protestant sects fetishizing the OT are, in my opinion, heretical. Basically they are practicing Judaism. So convert already!

And because of the endless fetishization of the OT by Protestantism for centuries, this suggests that Protestantism itself at the very least contains the seeds of heresy if not the actual content. And those Protestants who are doing this, really, are not even Christians anymore. They’re just Jews. And they act a lot like them too, if you think about it.

One more thing, Replacement Theology, which the Jews kvetch is antisemitism, is simply Christianity itself, and it’s only the gutlessness of Christianity proper vis a vis the Jews with regard to the fake Judeo-Christianity heresy that prevents Christians from coming out with some real talk.

The only ones with the nerve to do so have been the Christians of the Arab World, who are almost all Catholics, either Eastern or Western. In particular, Palestinian Christian clerics have strongly pushed Replacement Theology in actual word. If Jews think that Replacement Theology is antisemitism then that can only mean that Christianity itself is antisemitism, which, after all, is always an interesting argument.

The best way to look at this is to see Christianity as some sort of radical, albeit heretical, proto-Reform Jewish sect which was rejected by Jews as they reject all such heresies. This sect was excommunicated from Judaism proper by the Jewish authorities.

However, they continued to think of themselves as Jews until at least 60 AD. In fact, for a long time, you could not be a Christian unless you were a Jew first. Can you imagine that? You could imagine if nowadays only Jews could become Christians? So Christianity was very Jewish for a long time.

At some point there was a big fight about whether non-Jews could convert to Christianity. I believe that Paul’s conversion on the way to Damascus paved the way for other non-Jews to convert. But Jesus himself was as Jewish as anyone who ever lived. He was just a Jewish radical like Chomsky. Modern Jews would have called Jesus a self-hating antisemitic Jew, not that he’s as bad as Gilad Atzmon. Jesus had a Jewish mother. He lived and died a Jew. His last meal, as all of his meals, was kosher.

But the tail of Judaism continues to be present in modern Christianity just as the tail of our collective past continues to be present in all of us as part of the present, driving us forward to the future, which itself with contain and be the fruit of our present moment.

And in that sense, one can make that case in terms of the Philosophy of Time that the past, present, and future in a way all happening at exactly this moment, as the present is nothing but the accumulation of the collective past and the future will be nothing but the shoots that grow from the seeds of our present moment. And in that sense, since the past is also a part of the present, the past will be also part of the future. See The Harmony of the Spheres, by W. J. Tucker, 1964, for more along those lines.

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12 thoughts on “The Catholic Church’s Official Position on the Old Testament”

  1. Protestantism is such a mongrel. I definitely favor traditional Catholicism over it. Imagine how unified Europa was and would be if she didn’t lie down with the Protestant serpent. Protestants have mirrored Jews for far too long. They’re the other Kosher meat. Even today their nations are rapidly turning atheist like Jewish society. Truth is Jews aren’t entirely to blame. Protestants were Jewing it up before the Jews blew up.

    Gilad likely knows Jews well being born one in Israel. If I were a Jew, I’d be at least a partially self-hating. Jews are fine eugenic specimens but they are hard to love 100%.

    Darkies love Palestine. I talk to an old Black lady regularly about Jewy (the Whitey in Israel), and she of course backs the Palestinians. I believe Julianna Margulies is right in sense.

    Blacks feel little connection to Jews. I’m not convinced they are brainwashed though. I think they’re brainwashed to hate Whites by the (((media))), but Jews are something they’ve developed a distaste for against the grain of the media. Ultra White, elitist, high IQ, etc.. A Jewish Negro is almost laughable. There’s such a huge separation there.

    Native Americans view Israelis as colonizing General Kikesters.

      1. Protestant had Jew tendencies before Jews gained ground or influence. Puritans and Quakers started a lot of progressiveness associated with Jews. Protestants weren’t outsiders though. I respect the sort of Southern Protestantism like General Robert E. Lee’s the most. Religion isn’t #1. A person from a cloistered religion can have great character. Many Protestants during this period were great men and made history, perhaps the best achievements for the4 faith since Elizabethan times.

        1. Puritans and Quakers started a lot of progressiveness associated with Jews.

          Yes, certainly much better than the Spanish Inquisition as well as the anti-Communist pro-Nazism of the Catholic church.

          1. I was thinking historical advancement, not faith. Protestants seem somewhat blessed or at least lucky.

            Todays Spaniards are a far cry from the Inquisitors of old.

            Nazis nailed blood and soil. So Germans invoke Nazism just by being German. I don’t Catholicism has deep ties to Nazism though. I believe Nazis had their own brand of Christianity that didn’t catch fire.

    1. Catholicism is a hideously oppressive faith, anti-science, anti-enlightenment, very controlling of women, homophobic (despite their own priests), etc. No wonder the majority of its U.S. adherents (the white ones at least) are hardcore Trump supporters/MAGA types, especially in the Northeast. Thank god so many rational and humane people are moving away from the faith, although the priest scandal is probably the major reason.

      1. anti-science, anti-enlightenment,

        I’m not so sure. You realize that the Catholic Church, like the Shia, has the attitude that the faith must be constantly renewed to keep up with the times. Whereas far too many Protestants want to go back to 60 AD (though the don’t do that).

        It’s something they always claim to do. Similarly, far too many Sunnis seem to want to live in the 600’s until the end of time. And Sunni Islam is extremely closed-minded and they have no interest in renewing or even critiquing the faith. In fact, it makes them hate you. They’re also huge liars and they engage in serious taqiyya.

        The Catholic Church has its very own astronomer! The Pope recently said that alien life would be compatible with Catholicism. It’s this sort of thing that makes me like it. Of course they are backwards on abortion and birth control and women priests. But it’s an interesting religion. I knew an Italian guy who told me,

        Well, of course I am a Catholic!

        I queried him a bit more and it turned out that he was pretty agnostic about God and he wasn’t even sure if he believed in it or not. I asked him how you could be Catholic while being unsure if there was a God and he said it was compatible. He said in Catholicism, you are supposed to be “always searching,” as in searching for the right answer. Even Mother Theresa said she had hideous doubts, as in agnostic thoughts. But she could still be a Catholic. I like that.

        A Protestant would say forget it, you’re not a Christian. But a Catholic is open minded. In Latin America, so many people are cultural Catholics. Often the men are just nominal Catholics and the women are the ones in the churches. Same in Italy. And the Church somewhat stays out of politics. He said the Church is supposed to stay out of politics, but the Church says that some politics deals with life issues that are the subject of the Church, hence it has a right to intervene. Italy has a rather complicated abortion law.

        Spain is Catholic too, and it has modernized well. So has France and Southern Germany, and Austria. Also Catholicism has a strong social justice component that Protestantism utterly lacks. It has been quite easy for Catholics to be Communists and Leftists in Colombia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Cuba, Honduras, and the Czech Republic.

        We all know why Catholicism sucks but I think we should look at the good side too.

  2. Post-Vatican 2 Catholicism (aka fake libtarded Catholicism) has now reevaluated the OT and thinks it is still valid for the Jews only.

    After the Holocaust they chilled out and said Jews aren’t going to hell for following the OT ceremonial law, so long as they are good people of course.

    When making an evaluation you should always check if the source is pre- or post-V2, as they are essentially two different religions. The liturgy is even different, Latin versus vernacular.

    I’ve read entire Catechisms of pre- and post-V2 and mingled with TradCaths and regular Caths. TradCaths who reject the OT are actually way more Jewish because they follow their own stringent ceremonial laws and fast and pray all the time according to rubrics. Normal Caths who accept the OT more are very Protestant-like an universalist in their views of salvation. In fact, Protestants accuse all Catholics as being too Jewish because of their legalism and rituals.

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