CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: In my experience it depends on the woman’s personality and the socioeconomic status. The general trend is the following: Cluster B-ism in a woman is positively associated with a desire for more aggressive manly man, whereas the higher her socioeconomic status, the less she cares about this. But beware because high SE status bitches scare about how much money and influence you have!
So you can be a poor brute or a rich mild-mannerred man, but heaven spare you if you are poor and soft.
This isn’t some bullshit PUA stuff I’ve read. These are hard lessons learned in life. They don’t teach you this in school. I wonder think it’s for a reason. In fact, considering most grade school teachers are women and most undergrads are now women, they probably don’t want you to tell you.
Women never want to explain to you what they want. They want you to figure out it. They hate it like nothing else. I almost think some women would rather kill themselves or die as spinster than spill the beans. Having to explain subtle emotions and social dynamics is odious to women.
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In my experience it depends on the woman’s personality and the socioeconomic status. The general trend is the following: Cluster B-ism in a woman is positively associated with a desire for more aggressive manly man, whereas the higher her socioeconomic status, the less she cares about this.
Of course. I wonder why that is. Are smarter women simply more able to turn off their primitive cavewoman brains? Does aggressive mate preference in females decline as IQ rises?
I’ve had Cluster B girlfriends (usually not even diagnosed, as so many women are Bordlerlines as a basic component of female psychology). One of them bitched at me half the day and then was nice the other half the day. Insisted that she loved me with all my heart and soul. I confronted her about her cunty attitude and insisted that she was “just fighting back” LOL.
Thing is I was going out of my way to be as nice as possible to her all the time so as not to set the evil cunt off if for no other reason. But she attacked me all day anyway. I tried all these different strategies to get her to knock it off but nothing worked.
Fighting back? Fail.
Confrontation? Fail because she denied she was attacking me when she spent half the day doing it LOL.
Homicidal ideation? Fail.
Saying, “Ok?” Fail.
Saying, “Um yum?” Fail.
Nodding my head and saying, “Umm hmm?” Fail.
I put up with all this for some pussy, basically. There were other benefits of course, but for us men, that’s always number 1. And the sex was always great, day or night, and yes, I do mean we did it all the time. I was 55 years old too. Just to show you what a sex maniac I am.
At my pussyless age (don’t worry, all men at my age are pussyless, most by default or involuntarily but many also because they have no interest or literally don’t care anymore), I’m thinking back and wondering why I put up with all this Godawful crap from women just to get some Goddamned pussy. Is it really that important? Why not just jerk off? Why not be an incel or better yet a volcel? Perhaps these guys are onto something and they’re trying to prevent us men from living lives of mute hopelessness and terminal frustration?
I told a gay man once
You gays have got it made. You don’t have to put up with women!
He didn’t think it was funny as he was one of those self-hating gays who desperately wanted to be straight. I kept trying to tell him that homosexuality was incurable. I love this guy like a brother and I’m sure his gayness is biological. I’ve also told women
You know, you say women are great, but you had to date and have sex them, you might not like them so much either!
Bizarrely, most women agreed with me on that, including my very own mother!
Literally nothing worked. So this attitude that you can shut up a bitch once they’re on a cunt out streak just seems ridiculous. Literally nothing works. I assume killing her would work, but unfortunately that’s against the law! I asked my mother why she was doing it, and she acted like she knew the answer but was refusing to tell me, and said in an exasperated voice
I don’t know!
I wish she would have told me but I’m afraid it was bad news on my end. Red pillers say everything a woman does is your fault on some end, so I assume that she was doing this for some reason as a reaction to my behavior. If so, what on Earth could I possibly have been doing wrong? Other than the age-old complaint that I’m too soft and unmasculine?
You all can chime in but be nice about it please.
This plays into Claudius’ later comment that a woman will generally not tell you why they are acting any confounded way they are. He suggests you’re supposed to figure it out on your own. I wonder if perhaps women don’t even know why they are acting they way they are half the time. Perhaps this woman’s brain was just telling her,
And then sending another signal to Ego Defense Central Control with the Denial Division saying
“But deny that you’re doing it.”
while the Projection Group said
“And then blame him for what you’re doing!”
and another unknown Department said
And don’t analyze this or try to figure out why you’re doing it, and anyway, you’re doing it in the first place, ok? Just do it and pretend you’re not, dammit.
But beware because high SE status bitches scare about how much money and influence you have!
I haven’t run into this as I’ve never had any money or influence in my entire life. I’m not sure it’s a problem though, other than a general feminist cunt issue. The feminists have decided that all “power imbalances” in relationships are evil, creepy, predatory, pedophilic, and at the very least, their favorite idiot word of the year, “problematical.”
Of course, in a lot of cases, no power differential, no sex, but never let thinking get in the way of a ranting feminist. They’re as allergic to self-analysis as any woman. Power differentials make the world go round. Why do you think rich men drown in pussy while poor men are sexually malnourished? Why do you think power attracts women. There are actually a lot of women out there who are referred to as “powerfuckers,” because you know, they chase powerful men to fuck them.
But that’s all banned now, so what’s a man to do?
So you can be a poor brute or a rich mild-mannerred man, but heaven spare you if you are poor and soft.
Excellent point. Then you’re a double loser. I guess that’s my problem.
I guess a brutish rich man isn’t that great either. That crowd might not even let him rise, or if he does, they’d throw the old, “Why are you so angry, anyway? What the Hell’s the matter with you?” at him. I’ve heard this from these types many times, often directed at me.
This isn’t some bullshit PUA stuff I’ve read. These are hard lessons learned in life. They don’t teach you this in school. I wonder think it’s for a reason. In fact, considering most grade school teachers are women and most undergrads are now women, they probably don’t want to tell you.
Of course. No woman wants to tell you the dirty little secrets women have. No woman even wants to tell you what she wants, although there are exceptions. The Red Pillers always say, “Pat attention to what a woman does (to figure out what they want), not what she says (she wants). Almost all women are either remarkably blind to this sort of thing or they’re simply ashamed of their desires.
But I think they don’t want to tell us what they want because if they told us what they wanted, they think it would make them look like scumbags because often what women really want is often something pretty low, lousy, and sleazy. They’re ashamed of this because women think of themselves as good, nice people, but their desires say something else.
And once you start learning these hard lessons in life, if you tell people, a lot of them gaslight you and tell you you’re imagining it or hallucinating it, which is even more confusing. A lot of men won’t even own up to this stuff, especially if they are married, marriage being a pacification and even pussification project for the male. I’m not calling married men pussies, though testosterone does decline with marriage, which makes my point.
I don’t even hate pussywhipped men unless they defend or won’t admit they’re whipped, in which case I have contempt for them. If he admits it and hates it though, I feel sorry for him. Also, I don’t hate passive, soft, or even wimpy men though a lot of them hate me. Half the population already hates them (the women) and surely some macho guys too (though most men could care less about these men either), so why join the blanket party and beat up on some poor schmuck?
If he can man up and stop the behavior (which probably won’t even stop it anyway as nothing stops a crazy bitch), that’s on him, not me. So he’s a soft guy? He’s got it rough enough in the world as it is. Give me one reason why I should hate this guy or even refuse his friendship? I’m not an asshole. I’m not like 80
Women never want to explain to you what they want. They want you to figure out it. They hate it like nothing else. I almost think some women would rather kill themselves or die as spinsters than spill the beans. Having to explain subtle emotions and social dynamics is odious to women.
This is one of the truest things I’ve ever read! Thank you! I’ve been thinking this for a pretty long time now but I could never really put it into words. Of course if you tell women this stuff, you run up against a wild storm of denial where they call you “incel” (go to insult for all women these days), say no woman wants you and laugh about it, accuse you of being a misogynist and then saying that’s why no woman wants you, on and on.
As most men telling women about this stuff are decent men, get women, and of course don’t hate women any more than any of us do, this is very confusing to them. This man is also being mass gaslit too because his obvious observations over a lifetime are being called crazy and hallucinatory by a gaggle of women, all lying either deliberately or not.
I’m starting to think one of women’s main purposes here on Earth is to gaslight us men. And I’m starting to think society’s purpose is to gaslight you through all your troublesome and troublefree (assuming there are any) years. Worst of all, I’m starting to think that the purpose of life is to be gaslit every waking day of your baffling existence. In other words
Life is a gaslighting experience.
It’s not making sense to me but I think society and culture are so weird that this is how it’s supposed to work:
Somehow you are supposed to figure out all this stuff on your own (perhaps with some help of some honest others), then probably deny that you figured it out even though you did, then never tell any other baffled person these truths on the grounds of, “Just figure it on your own!,” then act like these truths don’t exist and actually the opposite (the falsehood) is actually the truth, then spend your whole life in this absurd state of self-contradiction and suspended animation til you are given a shuffling off pardon from this mortal downward spiral we call life.
I have no idea where we go afterward, but I only pray it is somewhere that makes sense, assuming there’s such a place in this benighted universe of ours.
If you try to tell men, a lot of times they will gaslight you too. I’m not sure what’s going on though I think it’s some bizarre cultural rule:
Somehow you are supposed to figure out all this stuff on your own (perhaps with some help of some honest others), then probably deny that you figured it out even though you did, then never tell any other baffled person these truths on the grounds of, “Just figure it on your own!,” then act like these truths don’t exist and actually the opposite (the falsehood) is actually the truth.
Then you spend your whole life in this absurd state of self-contradiction and suspended animation til you are given a shuffling off pardon from this mortal downward spiral we call life.
If you figure this stuff out, the usual reaction is if they agree with you is,
Duh! You finally figured this out this late in life? Social retard! You idiot!
So you get insulted for figuring something out because you’re either supposed to figure this out when you’re two or according to most folks, be born with the 500,000 social rules already in your head. That, or,
Shhh! It’s a dirty little secret! Don’t tell anyone!
Which only makes you even more confused. Why can’t I tell anyone? What will happen? Will I turn into a pumpkin at midnight?
Sometimes you get a
Yep you’re darn right, ha ha.
Which makes the whole experience of figuring out how you’ve been gaslit and figuring it out somehow worthwhile? I guess?
There are some women who are starting to make some very honest videos on Youtube along the lines of, Why Women Hate Passive Men, and Why Women Hate Nice Guys, etc. They’re almost all rightwing women because when it comes to Identity Politics issue and common wisdom associated with them, only the Right is telling the common sense truth nowadays, the Left only resorting to repeating the endless lies that make up the cultural view of the IP Left, or Idiot Left.
As a man of the Left and one who despises conservatism, it makes me furious when conservatives are right about much of anything because being conservatives, they should be wrong about everything by default because conservatism is crap. If they’re right about anything, we should just co-opt it and call it liberalism because liberalism should be about the truth and only the truth, otherwise there’s no point of being a liberal at all.
Truth is liberalism. Liberalism is truth. Or it should be. After all, we were the first to marry logic and science to politics and culture. Read Locke some time, if you dare. He’s very hard to read but if I can read him, maybe you can too. Well, if you’re smart you can. It’s also written in a foreign language called Mid-Eighteenth Century English, which makes it even harder to read, but I could decipher that so maybe you can too. Start with Two Treatises on Government.