Just the latest fake controversy from the sex fascist crowd.
Former Twitter trust and safety head Yoel Roth wrote in his PhD dissertation that minors should have access to hook up apps like Grindr. After people pointed out Twitter was plagued by child porn under Roth, his PhD paper was withdrawn from UPenn’s website.https://t.co/ONt9IJBbK5
— Pedro L. Gonzalez (@emeriticus) December 12, 2022
Pedro Gonzalez is just another Republican rightwing shithead. Pedo hysteria knows no boundaries. It’s sucks up the Right, the Far Right, the MAGA crowd, the Never Trumpers, the Centrists, the liberals, the progressives, and even and perhaps most pathetically of all, the socialists, communists, and anarchists. Moral panics are equal opportunity infectious vectors!
As you can see, he had to throw in the bullshit about how Twitter used to be chock full of CSAM or Child Sexual Abuse Material. I wen over this in another post. In all of the porn-drenched hours I spent on there, I was one whole pussy shot and she was probably six months away from 18. Big deal! Where was all this CP? If I couldn’t find it, how could anyone else have? Not that I was looking for it but still. This CSA crap is on a par with the Satanic Panic of 1980’s. Same shitheads who screamed their fool heads off back then have returned and are shrieking about the Panic Du Jour. Same idiots, different panic.
First of all, Roth is gay. Real gay. I read over his dissertation or at least the referenced parts. Mostly flooded with the sort of nonsense-speak that plagues the postmodern academy these days, it did have some interesting things to say once you waded through the SJW-speak. I read lots of literary criticism if you are interested, so I speak SJW and Academese.
While gay youth-oriented chat rooms and social networking services were available in the early 2000s, these services have largely fallen by the wayside, in favor of general-purpose platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and Snapchat.
Perhaps this is truly representative of an increasingly absent demand among young adults for networked spaces to engage with peers about their sexuality; but it’s worth considering how, if at all, the current generation of popular sites of gay networked sociability might fit into an overall queer social landscape that increasingly includes individuals under the age of 18.
Even with the service’s extensive content management, Grindr may well be too lewd or too hook-up-oriented to be a safe and age-appropriate resource for teenagers; but the fact that people under 18 are on these services already indicates that we can’t readily dismiss these platforms out of hand as loci for queer youth culture.
Rather than merely trying to absolve themselves of legal responsibility or, worse, trying to drive out teenagers entirely, service providers should instead focus on crafting safety strategies that can accommodate a wide variety of use cases for platforms like Grindr – including, possibly, their role in safely connecting queer young adults.
He’s sort of got a point. Why not set up teen dating sites like Tinder for teens, gay, bi, and straight, from 13-17. I’m fine with it. What’s wrong with that anyway?
And in states where the AOC is 16 or 17, surely 16 and 17 year old boys, respectively, ought to be able to join Grindr and hook up with men. What’s wrong with that? They can have sex with men legally anyway, so why not do it over Grindr? What’s the big deal anyway? I agree it would be hard to enforce. Maybe upload a copy of your driver’s license if you have one?
The elephant in the room that no one is talking about is the ubiquity of pederasty in gay male culture. Everyone’s all wigged out about 18 year old men and 17 year old girls, but that’s just part of the feminist War on (Straight) Men. Notice the SJW’s are all silent about teen-adult gay relationships? Which, by the way, are everywhere.
It is estimated that 1/3 of gay teenage boys are currently in a sexual relationship with an adult man. This is well known and counseling centers who work with these boys always assure them that they won’t turn their adult lovers in.
Fully 25% of gay men have had sex with a 13-15 year old boy after age 25. Shocking figure, eh?
In contrast, only 6% of straight men have had sex with a 13-15 year old girl after age 25. So this thing that everyone is freaked out about doesn’t really happen that much. This “CSA” bullshit that the feminists keep beating us in the head with is only done by a tiny minority of men who probably have elevated psychopathy scores. Fully 94% of us men have nothing to do with those girls by our mid-20’s. We treat them like they’re radioactive, and indeed they are.
Since almost all of us don’t engage in this activity, what’s with the hysteria? It’s a tempest in a teapot and a non-issue, so why all the fuss and screaming about age gaps and predation and power imbalances and pedophilia and CSA and all the rest of the crap and nonsense?
It’s simply a war on normal heterosexual male sexuality. All normal men find girls in their teens attractive, so if you want to beat normal men over the head and call them pedophiles who deserve woodchippers, what better way to call for all straight men to be executed than to focus on this rather minor part of straight men’s sexuality?
The feminists’ War on Men has always been a war on straight men. The feminists never gave two shits about gay men. It’s straight men who they’ve always demonized, claiming that normal heterosexual sex is rape, dating is sexual assault, and normal flirting is harassment. Women have an extreme hatred for the raw and doggish nature of straight male sexuality as part of their normative Feminine Character. And when you put them in charge of making laws about gender issues, of course they will set up a bunch of laws and rules that maximally privilege women and maximally harm men? What else would you expect them to do.
Like I said, the adult-teen sex thing is mostly a gay issue, as most straight men don’t mess with girls unless they are fairly close in age where it’s more of a Romeo and Juliet close in age exception thing.
But not so with gay men. The love of teenage boys and pederasty has been a normal part of gay culture since Antiquity. I have been told that Grindr is chock full of 16 and 17 year old boys. Like swarming with them. And your average gay bar is full of boys that age too. They just let em in. Do they serve them alcohol? Perhaps not, but they sure let them in the door all right. Gay men have tried to make a case for this by saying that sex between 16-17 year old boys and men is a part of gay male culture.
Anyway, yeah, Yoel Roth, being a normal gay men, of course likes those teenage boys. Most gay men do! So of course he’s writing about pederasty. He’s gay, so he’s interested in pederasty, get it? Birds fly and fish swim and gay men like teenage boys.
This is news? This is a scandal? Wake me up when it’s over!
Can high school students ever meaningfully consent to sex with their teachers? http://bit.ly/bbpH68
— Yoel Roth (@yoyoel) November 20, 2010
He’s also in trouble over this article, Can High School Students Ever Meaningfully Consent to Sex with Their Teachers? It’s not as bad as it sounds. The case involves a 24 year old high school teacher having a sexual relationship with an 18 year old man in his class. Note that the high school student was a full-fledged adult at the time!
Bizarrely enough, Roth is being raked all over the coals about this piece as “pedophile” and a “groomer,” although both men were consenting adults! The AOC in Washington state is 16, but it has the usual contrary clauses making relationships between 16 and 17 year olds and adults who have a supervisory position over them, such as teachers and coaches, illegal.
These clauses are normal in in all states that have AOC’s under 18. The problem here is that it says that it is illegal for someone in a supervisory position to have sex with a minor who they have responsibility over. Read that? A minor. See that 18 year old man? He look like a minor to you? Me either.
In an absolutely insane ruling, the lunatic court ruled that the 18 year old man was actually a minor LOL! I kid you not. Well, you know, some days you’re an adult and other days you’re still a kid, so you never know. The preposterous ruling said that when the Legislature wrote the law, the age of majority was 21, so for the purposes of this law, somehow or other, 18-20 year old adults in Washington state are minors!
Bullshit, huh?
As a former schoolteacher who never messed with any of my high school and junior high girl students but who definitely had opportunities to (girls used to call out in the middle of class and announce to everyone in the room that they wanted to have sex with me), I’ll admit I was tempted and thought about it. Especially when the Homecoming Queen, the hottest girl in the school, liked me. She’d come swaying up to my desk from the back of the room while the class hooted and hollered and yelled, “Go for it, teacher! Go for it!” She may well have been 18. But I chickened out and didn’t even get her number like the great big pussy that I too often am.
Anyway, from up here at the teacher’s desk, the obvious solution here is to make it illegal for high school teachers to have sex with any of their students. And the penalty should not be jail but revocation of your teaching credential. That should do well enough. Texas already has a law about this, but Texas outlaws every other thing normal people do in every day life, so that’s not surprising.
Anyway the article is a nothingburger talking about two consenting adults. So what! Yet this poor guy is getting raked over the coals and getting called groomer and pedophile for it by people who never learned to read.
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