Pantheist: Is the feminism the Jews favorite weapon to destroy the west?
I don’t really believe in those Jewish conspiracies that say the Jews use these Identity Politics movements to destroy the West.
Some Jewish women started 2nd Wave feminism because Jews are “natural revolutionaries,” and Jews in the Diaspora grow up with a rebellious, angry spirit, raised to believe that they are better than the Gentiles and that the Gentiles hate them. This makes Jewish children come to resent Gentile society and wish to rebel against it.
But a lot of these were just women conscious of the disadvantages and discrimination women faced at the time and possibly still do. They were an oppressed group who wanted to be liberated. Yes, some of the early Second Wave feminists were Jewish, but the First Wave Suffragette Feminists were Gentiles! A lot of these 2nd wavers were radical Leftie types who were barely even Jewish. This was not one of those self-consciously Jewish movements like neoconservatism. They were women first and Jews second. But a lot of the Second Wave leaders were Gentiles too. And almost all 2nd Wave feminists were Gentile women.
Jews don’t like societies with traditional family-based values because these tend to rise up and attack Jews from time to time. They think that if they can break down some of these conservative bonds make Gentile societies nationalistic, then it will prevent discrimination against Jews.
So say if Jews are Ruritanians, then they would want to break Ruritanian society down to there the men, women, different races, gays, transsexuals, etc. were that identity first and Ruritanians second. So they would want Ruritanian men to split from men to some extent and pursue their primary identity as their gender rather than putting it in the backseat by identifying as Ruritanian first and their gender second as nationalists do. That’s why nationalists don’t like Identity movements – to some extent they tend to loosen the bonds that forms the nation. It gets hard to create a nationalistic state when many groups don’t have bonds with each other and are instead pursuing separate identities.
Like so many things they did, Jewish behavior here is based on self-interest. As I said, many Jewish feminists (except Dworkin and Abzug) were not self-consciously Jewish and were not operating based on a tribal mission. Even Dworkin was a woman and a lesbian first and a Jew second. Judith Butler, another Second Wave Jew, has pretty much left the Jews, turned hard on Israel, and even supports Hamas!
3rd Wave leaders don’t seem to be particularly Jewish at all. They’re mostly Gentiles and quite a few are non-Whites, especially Blacks and Hispanics. See bell hooks. I’ve been on radfem websites and while some of the radfems were Jewish, the vast majority were not, and the Jewish ones never talked about being Jewish. They were on the Left and so assimilated that they had almost left the Jews, sort of like Marx, Stanley Kubrik, the two brothers in the band Sparks – Russell and Ron Mael, Lenin, and Trotsky. Asked if he were Jewish, Trotsky said he didn’t identify as Jewish and instead described his ethnicity as “working class.” Frankly, a lot of the early Bolsheviks were just like this and they attacked synagogues as much as they attacked churches.