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This was the rule the Twitter faggots made up that I violated:
Violating our rules against hateful conduct.
You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.
Dumb or what? There really is absolutely nothing whatsoever hateful about that tweet. Furthermore, in what is becoming very common on this Clown Rock, perfectly factual and even scientifically true statements, often validated by many peer-reviewed published studies, are deemed hate! Ridiculous! How on Earth can facts be hate? They cannot! No fact can be hateful. The very idea is absurd! How can any scientifically proven truth be hateful? It can’t! The idea is ridiculous! Science isn’t hateful. Scientific truth cannot possibly be hateful.
Science is dispassionate and cares nothing about human emotions like love, hate or anything in between. Science is just about what is objectively proven as true, false, or up in the air based on the empirical method! Can someone show me how one scientifically proven fact or truth, anywhere on Earth in space and time, could possibly have been hateful? It’s asinine!
But this is Clown World. In the Clown World that is the logical and inevitable end product of Globohomo, truth is hate. Science is hate. Facts are hate. Empiricism is hate. Peer reviewed studies published in academic journals are hate. Furthermore, all of these things are also racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, bigoted, on and on.
Look! Truth, facts, and science cannot possibly be sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or bigoted! How could they possibly be? All of these things are forms of hatred motivated by animus towards a particular group. Science cannot hate. Science lacks animus or any emotion period for that matter. Science is as stoical as Dr. Spock.
For this reason, Globohomo is a form of idiocy, absurdity, and even insanity. If you want to know one thing I hate about Globhomo, it’s this.
This made-up Nazi Holodomor story here being faithfully recounted by a hardcore progressive pro-Nazi Democrat named Mark Summer of the pro-Nazi progressive Democrat Daily Kos site, never happened:
However, Ukraine was the largest grain producing region in the Soviet Union at the time and had a relatively abundant crop. Under the cover of the general shortage, Joseph Stalin placed grain quotas on Ukraine that essentially robbed the nation of all its food.
With corn and wheat carried away by the Red Army, Ukrainians were deliberately left to starve. There are even reports of food being destroyed to accelerate this process. Estimates of the resulting genocide range from a low of 3 million to as many as 10 million dead. Stalin followed this by a program of encouraging more Russian settlement in Ukraine.
Today is Holodomor Remembrance Day.
This haunting painting (1933 by Victor Tsymbal) captures the suffering of the Ukrainian nation.
It depicts the ascent into heaven of a mother and her child.
Poles were also hard-hit as 50.000 Poles living in Ukraine lost their lives. pic.twitter.com/9UcVwOZ56s
More fake bullshit above in the Twitter link to the Ukrainian Nazi Visegrad site above. Notice they aren’t talking about the part of Ukraine that was ruled by Poland at that time? You know why? Because the same disastrous wheat rust epidemic that hit Ukraine, Southern Russia, and Kazakhstan also hit that part of Poland very hard. Hundreds of thousands died of starvation-related causes there. I guess Stalin killed all those people in Poland too! How did he do that? Did he fly over there and steal all the Eastern Poles’ grain? It’s bullshit.
Why was the famine worst in mostly-Russian Eastern Ukraine and in Cossack Donbass, where Stalin had strong support? Why would he kill off his own supporters? Was he crazy? So he killed Ukrainians and wanted to exterminate them because they hated him so he hated them, but he also killed Eastern Poles because…why?
And he killed Eastern Ukrainians, Volga Cossacks, and Muscovites because they loved them so he loved them? And he killed the Kazakhs and Siberians because he had particular feelings for them all nor them for him? I guess just liked to exterminate people. Friends, besties, frenemies, enemies, and people he could care less about – mean old Stalin killed them all! Just to be mean.
None of this bullshit makes any sense.
People died all over the USSR. There was a famine harvest of only 50
It’s ridiculous. The famine harvest was not deliberately caused by Stalin. It had a variety of causes. One of them was a too-rapid dismantling of the old system with a too rapid development of the new system, but is that was the only problem, there would have been no famine harvest. Most of the harvest collapse was natural, due to a wheat rust epidemic.
The charges above must be responded to. First of all, the notion of a famine harvest completely negates the whole Holodomor lie because that Nazi lie is based on the idea of a bumper crop in 1932 that was stolen by Stalin, leaving the Ukrainians with no food. And why did Stalin steal the Ukrainians’ food? I guess it was just to be mean! You know, Stalin was a mean guy! Real mean! Grrr!
Once you say there was no bumper crop to steal and there was instead a famine harvest, now there’s not enough food to go around for anyone and the “Let’s steal their crops and kill em all!” lie falls apart.
Second of all, few people starved. As noted in previous posts, most died of disease, mostly cholera. If the USSR had better sanitation, perhaps many fewer would have died. All of those “Holodomor” photos of people lying sprawled out dead on the streets of “Ukraine” are fake. Those are people who died somewhere in the USSR during another famine that occurred during the Russian Civil War. Also, it was Nazis who dredged up those photos.
Third is the weird line about destroying food, supposedly being done by the Soviets in the midst of nationwide famine and intense food shortage! That food was going all over the USSR. I guess Stalin’s men were trying to starve themselves!
This must be projection. It was the Ukrainians themselves who set their crops on fire, piled them in the rain and along with their kulak allies, exterminated half the livestock in the USSR. All because their lands were being collectivized and they didn’t want any of their wheat and meat going to the state. “If I can’t have it, nobody can.” Sort of like those abusive men who say, “If I can’t have my wife, nobody can” and then they kill the wife.
This was the only destruction of food going on in the area.
The most important point to rebuke is the charge of “Killing people by being mean and stealing all their food!” How mean can you get? But a look at the archives puts this argument out to lunch. The figures depend on the population of Ukraine and the USSR at the time, but if say 15
Obviously they had to feed the rest of the country too, and rations were short all over the place. 1 million died of short rations in Siberia and the death rate in the Volga and Kazakhstan was also high, also due to short rations. Death tolls here were high because this was where the crop failure was greatest.
There are more charges. One charge is that the USSR did not let the Ukrainians leave Ukraine. This is true. There was much internal migration there, and the Soviets did their best to put people up in camps. Surges of people crowded the borders demanding to leave, but they had to be turned back. This was tragic but necessary. Why? Because 1933 came after 1932. If you let all of your agricultural population flee your best lands, who the Hell is going to grow and harvest the food next year? No one! Now in the 1933 and possibly for more years afterwards, far more people are going to starve! You follow?
It has also been argued that the USSR exported wheat. This is true, but they only exported some and they had no choice. Anyway, they received silver for it, which was legal tender and could be used to buy foods, medicines, etc. The problem was that the entire West had an bank embargo on the USSR. The Soviets were not able to access cash outside of their country. However, traders were allowed to export silver to the country, and the USSR traded some goods for valuable silver to get foreign exchange. The small export of wheat has been described as a tragic but necessary decision.
All of US liberalism, especially the left wing of the party, has revived the most fanatical New Cold War hatred of Russia (which stands in for the reviled USSR). Markos, the super-liberal who runs runs Daily Kos, is a pro Ukrainian Nazi fanatic. He’s also a fanatical New Cold Warrior. All of the posters and commenters are extreme pro-Nazis.
The only people opposing these Nazi freaks in Ukraine in the West are far rightwingers, quite a few of whom are basically fascists. The MAGA or hard fascist wing of the fascist Republican Party has a strong anti-Ukrainian Nazi tendency. The only people complaining about these Nazi freaks are a bunch of fascists! Make sense? Of course not! The more typical Republicans are dubious of the Nazis and lean towards antifascist Russia. The only people supporting the Russian antifascists in the West are a group of fascists! Make sense? Nope!
Meanwhile, the liberals and progressives of the West are also the strongest supporters of the openly fascist NATO alliance, which has been a fascist military grouping since its founding.
Meanwhile, another group of strong supporters of fascist NATO and Nazi Ukraine are Western Jews! They also have an extreme hatred for anti-Nazi Russia. Jews love Nazis and hate antifascists! In fact, these particular bizarre Ukrainian Nazis are literally led by Jews. The country has a Jewish Nazi president. Their Nazi army is full of Jewish Nazis, a number of whom sport actual Nazi tattoos.
Granted in this part of the world, “Nazi” just means “exterminate the Russians” and it’s often stripped of its antisemitic core.
Nevertheless, Ukrainian Nazis have a strong antisemitic strain which they include in their Nazi Holodomor lie. According to Ukrainian nationalists, especially those in Canada, it wasn’t Stalin who deliberately killed all those Ukrainians, it was Jews! Stalin’s Jews, to be precise. Now the NKVD was indeed heavily Jewish at this time as 36
The story is there was a bumper crop, but Stalin and the Jews wanted to genocide Ukraine (Why? Just to be mean I guess), so “the Jews” came in and stole all the food and left millions of Ukrainians to starve. These folks literally say “the Jews killed us.” See why so many of them supported the Nazi invasion, fought alongside the Nazis, and murdered hundreds of thousands of Jews alongside their Nazi pals?
The world is crazy.
Nazi Jews? WTH.
Pro-Nazi liberals and progressives? Wut.
Anti-fascist fascists who hate Nazis? No way.
Politics doesn’t even make sense anymore. It’s like someone took the world, shook it up a bit, and then turned it upside down and said, “Here’s your new reality! Everything you know is wrong!”
You all wonder why we call it Clown World.
The “Stalin Killed Tens of Millions” Bullshit
That Stalin’s death toll was wildly exaggerated is the consensus of all prominent scholars of the USSR. The archives of the Soviet Union were opened up in 1990 and after raging debate in history journals for a few years, it was agreed that Stalin killed 2.5 million people in peacetime. That boils down to 89,000 a year or 24 people a day every day for his entire rule. That’s a lot of people!
That’s a lot but it’s not what the books tell you. The books tell you that Stalin killed 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, or 110 (Solzhenitsyn) million! Which boils down to 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 120, 180 or 330 people killed every day, or 300,000, 600,000, 900,000, 1.8 million or 3.3 million people killed every year. Now, mind you, killing 2.5 million people, or three people a day, is a lot of people. If people want to argue what a horrible murderer Stalin was because of those figures, they can be my guest. But get your figures right, for God’s sake.
Executions: 900,000. 800,000 were killed in one year in the Great Terror. The other 100,000 were killed over a 28 year period. That boils down to about 3,500 per year or about ten executions per day. All told 32,000 people a year were executed or 87 a day, but keep in mind that most of those were killed in a single year.
Deaths in the gulag: 1.2 million. That figure is remarkably low. That boils down to 12 people a day dying in the gulags. Keep in mind that the gulags also contained ordinary criminals in addition to political prisoners. In fact, most people in gulags were just criminals. So most of those deaths were among criminals, not political prisoners.
Deaths in the anti-kulak operation in Ukraine: 390,000. I believe this must include deportations. But there was an insurgency going on. I think this operation lasted for five years. So 78,000 Ukrainians a year were killed during this operation. If Ukrainians want to bitch about something, why don’t they bitch about that?
The 2.5 million is how many were reported, and they reported every death. I am not sure the deaths that occurred during the ethnic deportations during World War 2 are included in that.
The “Holodomor Terror Famine” Bullshit
Further, there was no Holodomor or terror famine. It’s a made up lie. A famine, yes. A terror famine? No. This also is now scholarly consensus. See Davies and Wheatcraft’s recent volume that seals the debate.
Yes, a lot of people died in Ukraine. But the part of Ukraine that is most upset about the Holodomor is Western Ukraine, and they were part of Poland at that time. By the way, this same famine killed many people in that part of Poland too.
The famine in Ukraine was worst in Eastern Ukraine where ethnic Russians lived. They were very strong supporters of Stalin. You never heard them talk about the Holodomor over there.
And in the Lower Volga among the Cossacks where support for Stalin was also very strong, the death toll was as bad as it was in Ukraine.
The death toll was also terrible in Kazakhstan, where it approached the levels of Ukraine. Now Kazakh nationalists have started up their own Holodomor myth.
1 million died of famine in Siberia.
Many people also died in Moscow.
The famine effected the entire country. No one was singled out for a terror famine.
The main cause of it was a wheat rust epidemic. At the time, wheat rust-resistant crops had not yet been developed.
And few people actually died of starvation. Most died of diseases from weakened immune systems. Sanitation was still poor in the USSR at that time, and many people died of cholera.
In addition, the kulaks killed half of the livestock in the USSR, adding to the famine. Most of the horses were killed, and crops were plowed via horses then, so this also made things worse.
Also old system was torn down before the new one was set up, and this added to the problems.
There was also an insurgency in Ukraine. Ukrainian nationalist guerrillas were launching up to 10-20 armed attacks a day in early 1932. They would raid collective farms, destroy the crops and livestock, execute the men, and rape and sometimes execute the women too. They were true terrorists.
In addition, many Ukrainians piled their crops in huge piles and left them out in the rain to mold. They also set many of their wheat fields on fire. Then they complained that there was no harvest! Hurr durr.
The Holodomor myth relies on a lie: that Ukraine had a bumper wheat crop in 1932, but Stalin confiscated it because Ukrainians were resisting collectivization, deliberately starving 6 million people. First of all, 6 million died all over the USSR. The figure in Ukraine was quite a bit lower.
However, this bumper crop myth is a lie. It has now been proven that there was a famine harvest in 1932 when the crop failed and the harvest crashed by 50
The Holodomor myth was started by German Nazis to set up the notion of “genocidal Communist murderers.” Most of the Holodomor photos you see are from another famine that occurred during the Russian Civil War. Reporters traveling through Ukraine at the time reported that rations were tight, but there were no bodies in the streets. There were long but orderly lines outsides of health clinics. Later, Ukrainian Nazis kept upping the death toll to try to make it greater than the 6 million toll of the Holocaust. The reason? To show the Nazi lie that Stalin was worse than Hitler and to let themselves off from the Holocaust in which so many Ukrainians gleefully took part.
The Holodomor myth was started by German Nazis to set up the notion of “genocidal Communist murderers.” Most of the Holodomor photos you see are from another famine that occurred during the Russian Civil War. Reporters traveling through Ukraine at the time reported that rations were tight, but there were no bodies in the streets. There were long but orderly lines outsides of health clinics.
Later, Ukrainian Nazis kept upping the death toll to try to make it greater than the 6 million toll of the Holocaust. The reason? To show the Nazi lie that Stalin was worse than Hitler and to let themselves off from the Holocaust in which so many Ukrainians gleefully took part.
Pantheist: Aren’t the frontal lobes on average fully developed by the mid 20’s and in some cases later?
Yeah, but I hate that argument. Let’s raise the age of consent to 28! Actually the brain does not finish developing until age 33. Let’s raise it to 33 then! Go on Twitter sometime. There are all sorts of people, mostly these terminally retarded and cucked younger generations, who are literally suggesting raising the age of consent to 21 or even 25. These are very serious proposals, often raised by so-called “males” or “men.” The argument is dangerous as Hell.
The “Their Brains Are Not Fully Developed” Bullshit
The vast majority of brain growth occurs between ages 10 and 15. By age 15, most of your brain development has already occurred.
Let’s put it this way: Who does a 15 year old girl most resemble – a 20 year old woman or a 10 year old girl? The 20 year old woman of course! This “their brains are not mature hurr durr” argument is used to argue that teenagers are children, which is false as you can see. Not only are they not children but they are a lot closer to adults than they are to little kids.
I suppose you can make the case that 13-15 year old girls do not have fully developed brains. Yet they are still not little children. Their brains are undergoing the most explosive phase of growth of their lives.
And by age 16, their brains are nearly adult-like.
Teenagers are “little adults, junior adults, or young adults.” They are in an in between stage between childhood and adulthood and should not be treated like either.
The “Minors Can’t Consent” Bullshit
Supposedly because durr hurr their brains are not fully developed, minors “can’t consent” to sex. But of course they can! In a psychological sense, it’s absolutely true.
Teenagers very willingly consent to it every minute of every day in this world. 16 and 17 year olds are completely legal in most of the world, and one or both are legal in most of the US. If they’re legal, they can consent! Period. In Europe, 14 and 15 year olds are legal in most countries. Of course they can consent! And it may even be true that some 12 and 13 year olds can psychologically consent to sex in certain cultures.
A better argument against adults having sex with girls that age is that it is morally wrong. This is an argument that I support.
Of course, they grow up in a society which says such behavior is normal, but that’s the crucial factor.
If your society deems a behavior to be normal, many behaviors we silly Westerners assume are inherently and extremely harmful turn out to cause no damage whatsoever.
This “minors can’t consent” crap has now infected most of US society. Idiotically, many hormonal teenagers themselves believe this bullshit. Hence you see minors themselves insisting like retards that “minors (themselves) can’t consent to sex.” Even “boys” make these arguments, which shows you just what pussies and faggots most teenage “boys” are nowadays. These teens are saying that they themselves are somehow “scientifically” unable to psychologically consent to sex! Which is crap, of course.
Many sane states have decided to let minor teens have sex with each other all they want to within the confines of the law. Obviously this is the only way to do this. I can’t think of many things crazier than locking up teens for having sex with each other.
Pedo Panic Boils Down to a Remarkably Misogynistic War on Teenage Girl Minors
Just to show you exactly how Puritanical and shitty this Pedo Panic crap is, I would like to point out that almost 100
Well, teenage minors shouldn’t have sex with adults, but they can do it with minors.
Because you see, this screws up their whole dipshit argument about “ability to consent.” Obviously, if teenage girl minors can psychologically consent to having sex with their peers, why on Earth would they suddenly lose this ability once the peer turns 18? They wouldn’t of course. But that wrecks their argument, so they have to say that this mysterious inability to consent, which has never been documented by science, applies across the board in teenage minors to both peers and adults.
Yeah, it’s not so much adults and teenage minors that sets the Pedo Panic morons off. It’s teenage minors having sex with anyone, minor peers or adults, that sets them off.
Also notice that the whole Pedo Panic is all about teenage girls only, and no one cares about the boys? Anyone see the misogyny there?
And if you think the Pedo Panic losers are only worried about teenage minors having sex, think again. Try bringing up teenage girls’ masturbation habits sometime. Hint: Most of them are doing it almost every day, to orgasm, starting in early teens. You can’t bring it up! You’re a pedophile for even mentioning that teenage girl minors have figured out how to rub one out! So I guess Pedo Panic tards are against teenage girl minors even masturbating! I’m not sure even the Victorians went that far.
Actually it goes far beyond that. Why are teenage girl minors diddling their clits maniacally every evening nowadays? Because they have raging sex drives, that’s why! Now try mentioning that. Bring up the fact that teenage girl minors have raging sex drives. You’re a pedophile for pointing it out! This is even more appalling. Pedo Panic pinheads are furious that teenage girl minors even have sex drives at all! How’s that for Puritanism?
As you can see, Pedo Panic isn’t really about adult-minor sex (much of which is legal anyway) at all. It’s a Moral Panic about the the sexuality of teenage girls, over the fact that these girls are sexual beings with strong sex drives at all! The extreme sex hatred driving such a movement is hard to put into words. And it’s remarkably misogynistic too, as noted above. I wonder if feminists, who lead the charge on this bullshit, realize how misogynistic they are being when they scream about this stuff.
“Minors Can’t Consent” Is a Legal, Not a Psychological Term
The non-retard argument for people with IQ’s above 70 (which rules out the vast majority of the population) is that underage minors, not minors per se, are legally unable to consent because we think they are not mature enough, in other words, that they do not understand the consequences of their actions well enough and have to be protected from predatory adults who will take advantage of them.
Whether that’s ok or not is a subject for another day, but I’m not necessarily against that argument. The AOC is 18 here in California, and it doesn’t bother me one bit that 13-17 year old girls are off-limits to me. Society can put that age wherever it wants to up to age 18. Societies can set their own reasonable morals, and the rest of us ought to accommodate and internalize them and try to obey these laws. Californians can decide for themselves at what age girls can still be exploited sexually by predatory adults.
But it’s not a scientific question. It’s just another value judgement.
Now, I wonder about that.
In many primitive cultures, children grew up watching a number of their younger siblings being murdered at ages 0-3 because there was not enough food to go around. One Polynesian woman recounted tearfully how she had killed 17 of her own children. The children were best seen as killed, not murdered, because it was legal to kill those kids. In many cases, murder itself is more of a legal term than a statement of fact about some type of homicide.
Anyway, keep in mind that a number of adults in these cultures have grown up watching their younger brothers and sisters being killed or murdered (pick your term) by their own mothers. In our society this would cause incredible harm, and many would become adults who were scarred long-term or even for life by seeing such things. Yet studies of adults who witnessed such murders throughout childhood have struggled to find any harm at all from this practice. As adults, most agreed that it was sad or even tragic but that this was a necessary thing to do in their cultures. Either we killed those kids or we all died. That was the choice.
There are Amazonian tribes where 13 and in some cases 12 year old girls can consent to sex psychologically and even legally. I don’t agree with that, but within the framework of that culture, it seems to work. Those men have been having sex with and marrying girls that age for as long as anyone knows. Careful studies have been done on the women of these tribes who married adult men at ages 13-15 and sometimes at age 12. Absolutely zero harm from early marriage to adult men was found in all cases.
Why does every idiot human think that whatever silly value judgement they have is somehow proven by science or inherently true?
Why do you think they call them value judgements? Because by their very nature, they’re not true. But they’re also not false. They’re neither because their truth or falsehood is not a scientific question. Science just butts out of this stuff. By the way, many qualitative and comparative opinions, especially about people, fall into this category.
Is that guy over there nervous or calm? This guy here says he’s a nervous wreck. The Clinical Psychologist over here says he’s actually fairly calm. The guy himself, having experienced a lot of anxiety, thinks that, comparatively speaking, he’s calm as an ocean.
So what is he? Nervous as Hell, fairly calm, or placid as a Zen priest?
None of the above!
It’s all a matter of opinion. It’s amazing how few human adults can actually figure out that very basic equation. You would think some 5th graders have probably already figured that out.
I don’t even know what most of the terms in the title even mean, but the commenter is referencing them.
Pantheist: How do you explain such phenomena as synchronicities and simulpathy (twins sharing pain) as well as non-locality and quantum entanglement?
In recent years I have been experiencing some very uncanny synchronicities, especially while watching TV. For example, I will be watching television and thinking of or even typing a word on my phone or device and seconds later hearing that exact same word being spoken on my TV.
Once while watching the show American Pickers on the History Channel, I asked my Echo Dot what the temperature was, and she (Alexa) replied that it was 78 degrees. A second later Mike Wolfe said the word 78, as he was referring to the year 1978!
Is the notion that we are living in a simulation the only plausible explanation to explain such phenomenon?
I know the commenter pretty well, and I assume he’s not mentally ill. But people with schizophrenia spectrum disorders often report such things. I assume that the synchroniticies in those cases are hallucinated. I’ve heard of some pretty weird cases! That said, apparently they can occur in people without schizophrenia spectrum illnesses, too.
I don’t think we are living in a simulation. I am just saying that mass propaganda driven by states and intelligence agencies is for all intents and purposes creating a “fake reality” that is completely different from actual observable reality, and that therefore, we may as well be living in a actual simulation (fake reality), whether we are or not.
I don’t have any explanation for this, nor do I even understand the phenomenon very well.
However, after years of research, I am certain that the collective unconscious is not only real but is somehow heritable! I know that sounds insane and even Lamarkian, but Lamark was not completely wrong, as there seems to be evidence in the lab with micro-organisms that things learned in life are actually passed on to the offspring! Don’t ask me how that works at all.
I also think there is something like a “global unconscious” in that much of humanity is experiencing similar strong emotions at various times due to global events. I’m not sure how that works either except that maybe “energy” and “vibes” somehow travel between human objects and permeate our object barriers to enter our minds.
I know it’s crazy but there is actually experimental evidence for this in the lab. People have actually been able to do things to micro-organisms in another lab just by thinking about them. Groups of people were able to cause changes in micro-organisms over distance. The furthest distance so much is 10 miles!
I have no idea what is going on here, but I assume it is explainable by the laws of physics somehow, otherwise it would not be happening.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time on incel boards studying these folks. I’ve also observed them on PurplePillDebate subreddit and the incel subs when they were still up. Actually I used to post on some of them. It sounds odd but there are lots of non-incels posting on incel boards. They do so for a variety of reasons.
Actually it’s fairly common to see Chads hanging out there. Chads like to bitch about women too, and incel boards are a great place for that. There are asshole Chads who go on there to insult the incels, but they get thrown off real fast. A lot of them are doling out advice. There are also a lot of just regular single guys who have more or less regular (for the population) success or failure with women. One of the most popular posters on one site was a man in his early 30’s who had had sex with 33 females (!), but he hadn’t had sex in three years, which is actually very common for young men these days.
And face it, a lot of regular men are “incel” for various periods in their lives, for weeks, months, or even years.
I usually got thrown out of the incel groups though, usually for stupid stuff like “advocating rape.” Turns out a lot of incels are great big pussies too, which surprised me. One guy posted that they were at a bar playing pool and this woman started grinding up against him for a while. Like an idiot, of course he didn’t do anything about it. I said,
Look if some chick is grinding up against you like that, you need to just grab and her start kissing her really hard. Just attack her.
I’ve dated over 200 girls and women in my life, so I’d say that counts me out as an incel right there. As one guy n an incel group said,
“Wait a minute. You just had an affair with a woman 40 years younger than you, right?”
“Well, yes,” I answered.
“Look!” he said. “You might as well be on another planet from these guys! You’re about as far away from these guys as one can get. Most of these guys can’t even talk to a woman!”
The term incel is much abused by liberals and progressive types (Globohomo Cultural Left crowd). This is unfortunate as these incel men are to be pitied, if anything. The word is tossed around promiscuously at anything these Globohomo cucks and faggots don’t like, in other words, real men. If you’re against feminism, an MRA, get called misogynist, sexist, etc. or complain about women as all sane men do, get prepared to get called an incel.
This is based on the mistaken notion that idiot feminists have that men who hate, are angry at, or even complain about women (in other words, all men) never get laid. I guess according to feminists, all men hate women too much to get laid! So I guess no man ever gets laid! You would think feminists would be smarter than that, but nope. I guess feminists are the women who, when God was handing out brains, they thought he said trains, and they said, “I’d l like a slow one.”
Now the women in my Mom’s generation were hip to this stuff. She got it.
The truth is that women deliberately seek out bad, abusive, toxic, Cluster B, narcissistic, psychopathic, Machiavellian and just plain evil men by preference. Then they sit back and bitch about how they got abused. Duh.
In addition, often the worst men described above get the most women. Men who rape, beat up, threaten, and abuse women are often drowning in pussy if they are Alpha enough to get away with it. And there are two types of womanizers, a kind who definitely hate women although they are surrounded by them all the time and another type who truly love women. Having known many womanizers in my life, trust me that they are at the very least cynical about women and a lot of them are remarkably misogynistic. You would think if women really hated woman-haters, these are first guys they’d throw out.
But nope, these are the guys whose beds they swarm onto. Obviously, hating women has little to do with whether you get laid or not. In fact, there is a whole misogyny kink in porn now where men openly admit to being misogynists and praise this mindset. And there is this whole cohort of women who actively seek out misogynistic men as the best men of them all. Unfortunately, I doubt if this is just a kink in most cases.
But women, especially feminists, persist in the delusion that misogynistic men cannot possibly get laid because they will turn off every woman in sight. This is the reason given for incels’ lack of success since many of them, quite logically, hate women with a passion. Can you blame them? You hit a man enough times and he might just hit you back.
Hence, according to male feminists, liberals, leftwingers and other Cultural Left retards, any man who complains about women (no matter how much he praises them to the skies in other contexts) obviously can’t get laid, and therefore…drum roll…he’s an incel!
Incel is the first insult that feminists toss out towards any man who stands up to their insanity. All of us Men’s Rights Activists get called incels all the time because, yeah, some of us complain about women a bit (while some of us also praise them to the skies at the same time). Actually, a lot of us complain about women way too much and a lot of us are way too misogynistic. But that’s another topic.
Anyway, these men are quite pathetic. Why is it an insult to call a man an incel? These poor guys! What is this, and episode of Hate the Loser? Why don’t we insult people by calling them cripples, saying they’re in wheelchairs, or saying they have Cystic Fibrosis or dwarfism. Those are all tragic conditions too. And if any group is oppressed, it’s these poor incels. I thought liberals were on the side of the oppressed. The truth is that male liberals and progressives really hate men because most of them are male feminists.
All male feminists hate men. They cannot not be so inclined. Hence, male liberals and lefties call other men incels because they’re male feminist homos, cucks, and girlymen. I don’t think real men would ridicule incels. Sure, maybe a few would, but those are insecure Cluster B asshole types. We’ve grown up with these incel guys all of our lives. Hell, most of us were incels at one time. I was until age 15 and for all intents and purposes until age 16. It’s pretty pathetic to kick a man when he’s down, but that’s what Globohomo does to these poor guys.
A good female friend of mine calls herself an asexual or a greysexual, but I think that’s ridiculous. There is something wrong with her. She’s never experienced love (or claims she hasn’t) and rarely finds men that she is physically attracted to enough to want to have sex with. Both of these conditions are quite unwanted. I guess I would call this an “Attraction Disorder.” Perhaps an unwanted inability to fall in love is a “Romantic Disorder.” I’m having a real hard time believing that this woman get a gene that make it so she couldn’t fall in love or hardly finds any men that she is sexually attracted to.
I should point out that in every other sexual sense, she’s just like you and me. I she spent a huge amount of time on asexual forums because they were interesting to me but I never found one person who looked like her. I think she has a different problem. I actually do think that many of the true or pure asexuals have an actual biological disorder, though a rare one affecting 1
Anyway, she was on a board for people not in relationships. 80
This is a consistent theme you see with incel men. They are unattractive, homely, or ugly, choose your adjective.
It’s so obvious to anyone with a brain that hating women isn’t keeping these guys from getting laid. See above that that’s hardly a barrier to any man. Obviously, these guys aren’t getting laid because they’re ugly. Real simple. Duh.
Just to show you how most of these guys live their lives, many of them are in their 20’s or even 30’s, and they’ve never had much of a positive experience with a female in their lives. Females don’t like them. They’ve never had a girlfriend. Many have never held hands, hugged, or even kissed a female. Most females will barely give them the time of day, and many say that all or almost all of their dealings with females are negative.
Quite a few say they have never had a pleasant or warm conversation with a female. Females have been treating these guys like radioactive waste from Day One. It’s also very common for them to say that they basically can’t talk to women or that every time they try to talk to females, something seems to go wrong. Eventually they just give up. Quite a few of these guys have Assburgers (25
Bottom line is walking up to female strangers in public and having a very pleasant, warm and extended conversation with one is something that not every man can do. I wonder how many married men can pull this off. Try it some time. I dare ya. Oh and make sure she’s young and attractive, too. Approach her in a public place. Let me know how it goes.
In addition, people don’t understand Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, and related dating applications. There’s this idea that if a guy goes on there, a lot of women will swipe on him. Many incels have gone on Tinder. Almost universally, they sit there for up to six months to a year without a single woman swiping right on them. Not even one! So this idea that every man can go jump on those applications and have women swiping right on him left and right is bullshit.
If you can walk up to hot women in public and have a pleasant conversation, any kind of a pleasant conversation, for any length of time at all, or if you have any female friends at all, or if women act warm and friendly and call out your name in public when they see you you are doing way better than any incel.
Although some incels do approach women and ask them out, they don’t do very well. One incel make a thread called, I Will Approach 1,000 Women.
The others were all cheering him on. He approached them everywhere. A lot of the interactions were ok, but some were quite hostile and even threatening. He got some phone numbers somehow, and he managed to get four actual dates with women, which boiled down to lunch dates where absolutely nothing sexual whatsoever happened.
This is the typical experience of an incel in dating and in fact, it’s far better than most of them. If your dates turn sexual at any time at all, not to mention early on or God forbid on the first date, you’re kicking ass. No incel can even approach such successes. Hell, if you even get to hug, hold hands, kiss, or make out on dates with women or if you get their clothes partially or totally off (I usually manage to get them totally or at least partially naked on the first date somehow – don’t ask me how I do it), you’re kicking ass. No incel can even approach this sort of thing.
Hell, if you can meet women online and form online sexual relationships with them of any type at all or if you can have sexual conversations with them, you’re doing far better than an incel. I’m not convinced your average guy is all that great at even this. I’ve been in Kik chatrooms and the whole time I am thinking,
Good God! None of these idiots knows how to talk to a woman!
There might be 5-10 guys in there, and they’re all blowing it bad with the women in the room, mostly by escalating way too fast. If you can go into online chatrooms and quickly meet women, trade nudes and talk dirty with them or get propositioned by them or have them set up dates with you, or have them ask you to move in with them (all of these things happen to me fairly regularly), you’re doing great.
I’m not convinced your average guy knows his way around those rooms or even knows how to PM a woman. Just because you can talk to your wife doesn’t mean you can talk to strange women! Even DM’ing women on Twitter, Kik, porn blogs, and other places is extremely difficult. I struggle with it a lot myself. Talking to strange women and taking things sexual very fast is not something most men are good at.
Bottom line is a lot of young men out there don’t even know how to talk to women. I really think that these incels and probably a lot of other guys who don’t know how to talk to women all that well should maybe go into chatrooms sometimes. Try to talk to women in there. PM women. Go on porn blogs and talk to the women who run the blogs. Go on Tinder and if you get matches, see how well you can carry on a conversation. I found that conversations on Tinder were quite difficult and they leave and ghost you all the time. And I’m pretty good at this.
Women think your average guy can walk into a bar anytime he wants and get laid. My Mom used to say that all the time. A lot of incels and other unlucky men have gone to bars and nightclubs. Some went quite often. They had no luck at all. You could easily go to a bar or nightclub every night for a year and easily come up empty handed.
There’s absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that you will get laid in a bar or club. In fact, if that were the case, I can assure you that there would be block-long lines of men lining up every morning at 11 AM when the bars open and at 6 PM when the nightclubs open. Hey, it’s pretty much free prostitution, right? So the whore business might crash, except that never happens in any civilization.
First thing you need to learn how to do is talk to women. I’m convinced many men are not good at this. Sure, they can talk to their wives, but can they talk to a hot stranger? I’m not convinced. I don’t think it’s common at all for men to be able to approach hot stranger women in public and have pleasant interactions with them. If it were that easy, men would be doing it all the time. You see that happening?
On top of that, you also need to learn how to act around women. This is similar to talking but it’s also somewhat different.
Cut to the chase her, incel is a very lousy insult. True incels are remarkably unsuccessful with females. The vast majority of men who get called incels by Globohomo types are anything but. If you have any success at all with women, you’re far from an incel.
I read about those #metoo episodes and over and over again I thought,
“This guy doesn’t know how to act around women!”
I certainly would not have acted like that on a date, that’s for sure. A lot of them were escalating way, way too fast, and they typically wouldn’t take no for an answer. They basically jumped women in the men’s cars and homes and started kissing them, and the women freaked out hard.
Of course there’s nothing wrong with this, and I’ve been jumping them and attacking them my whole life with very little downside. But you need to have an excellent Theory of Mind to do this. You need to be the opposite of an Assburgers type. You have to be so good at reading people that you can almost read minds. You have to be very adept at social rules and know what to say and do and when, how, and why, something I am still learning at age 65!
Suffice to say that I’ll only jump them if the vibes feel right enough. If you’re not sure, just go in for the kiss real slow. Grab her chin and point it towards yours very aggressively but smile when you do it. Put the idea in your head,
You cannot resist me. I am the hottest man on Earth. Resistance is futile. It is not possible to turn down the hottest man alive.
This puts a good mindset in your head, and a lot of the time, they pretty much just go for it.
Then again, I’m a Chad, so maybe my experience only works for them. I have no idea. Also this stuff worked for me as a young Chad. Now I’m an old Chad, and I’m not sure if that is good for much of anything except maybe fucking old ladies, assuming they even want to in the first place.
If they’re not really into it, they will pull back after a bit, maybe after a minute or so, usually saying something like, “Let’s slow down. We’re going too fast here…Ok, ok.” They’re usually breathing quickly when they say it. It’s basically a peace treaty. If you do it right, she will end the kissing and push you away gently, and you really need to obey her wishes. Then an hour or two later, shove her up against the wall real hard and kiss her again! LOL.
If she seems hesitant, go in real slow. Or look her right in the eye and say with the utmost pure confidence, “Kiss me!” Say it like an order, but like an order she can’t resist. And smile when you say it. But also do it very aggressively and arrogantly with a sort of punk rocker snide challenge look on your face. They just go for it in my experience. I’m not sure if it is the aggression or the humor or the combination or none of the above, but if you read the vibes right and go in for the kiss when she seems ripe, it just seems to work.
If you’re on a date and you put your hand on her leg and she removes it, bad sign. You try to hold her hand and she wriggles free, bad sign. You try to put your arm around her and she shrugs it off, bad sign. You try to kiss her gently and she turns her cheek or puts her hand up, bad sign.
You really need to probably stop all such behaviors when they start doing that. I’m not sure what I would do in such cases because it’s been forever since this happened to me.
There a lot of strategies you can use. One is to basically shame her, call her a prude, and suggest she’s frigid or a virgin or scared of men. Make fun of her gently. If you go to kiss her and she turns her cheek, kiss her on the cheek and then sarcastically say, “Oh boy. That was real hot.” A lot of the time she will switch to a heavy make-out session right after you say that.
I guess if she won’t hold hands, you could try something else like putting your hand on her leg. Problem is if she didn’t do one, she won’t do the other either.
I would act put out and treat her like she’s a prude or a virgin. They get insulted by that and a lot of times you challenge them to where they will say, “Oh yeah! Put me on a nice bed, and I’ll show you just how frigid I am!” and then she totally goes for it. I’ve had women say that to me literally, word for word. Last one was an 18 year old girl.
From the Net:
Somewhat more than 2 years ago, I decided to retire to Ecuador. At first the Ecuadorian people, who are mostly a mestizo mix of Spanish and various Andean ethnicities were a complete cipher to me, as I had never met any before and knew nothing of their culture.
But I soon noticed that they went jogging in the evenings, walked dogs, went to gyms, wore jeans with artificial holes in the legs, had tattoos, always had a cell phone in their hand, got all their news from Facebook, and so on.
After a couple of years Ecuadorian people seem to me just like the New Normal. Today the shopping malls have signs everywhere advertising Black Friday, and the markets are full of turkeys. The movie theater at my local mall is showing the latest Black Panther movie. The children are all wearing Ecuador soccer shirts.
The world has changed massively in my lifetime. Firstly, the invention of civilian jet travel has made it much easier for people to move long distances. And secondly, the Internet has had an even greater effect in homogenizing cultures.
Living in the Andes in Ecuador is now barely any different from living in the Pennines in England, except that the weather is better, and that you see fewer sheep and more llamas.
The whole world is one country now, and everywhere is Disneyland.
I’m not even sure this is a bad idea, but anything the corporate crowd wants is automatically a shitty idea, so I suspect this will be a plunge too at the end of the day. But the jury’s still out at any rate.
People like Putin and the lady in Italy are standing up to this or at least the denationalizing, deracinatization, radical secularism that borders on Satanism, and the explosion of the traditional family into a hundred shards that no one even recognizes anymore. What you see here is a homogenization.
There are no more men and women. There are just these fake things that shift back and forth between the two and increasingly there is no difference.
Sex? Same way. The modern way is pansexual: these people who literally fuck anything human that moves, especially including trannies, which makes them different from the bisexuals one sees everywhere these days.
All religions are elided in favor of no relition at all, or perhaps, as Putin noted, Satanism instead of traditional religion.
National cultures are to be homogenized in favor of consumer drone McWorld.
Nations themselves are to be erased via open borders and increasing calls for supranational governance.
No more 6,000 languages. English uber alles. No such thing as traditional families anymore.
All families are just mix and match and create your own family goulash.
Get it? What they are against is “difference.” They are say they are for diversity but really they want a world in which all binaries and differences are wiped clean.
Globohomo: get it? Homo, not gay but homogenization!
They are standing up for things like nation, and national cultures, religions, traditional morals marriage and family structures – you know, just the time-tested stuff that’s only worked for thousands of years. In the war against Globhomo, Putin’s Russia is a stark example:
One man is fighting back!
Well, there ya go. That’s Globohomo in its essence.
A one world corporate culture where all indigenous cultures, languages, ways of thinking and viewing the world, moral systems, and religions have all been elided in favor of a single corporatized, neoliberal, hyper-consumerist planet: a “McWorld” if you will.
The worst people on Earth, the true neoliberal open borders “woketard” globalists who pose as liberals and Lefties nowadays were openly promoting this in the early 1990’s. I took a trip over to San Fransisco with my sister and we watched a documentary on TV about it. It was the greatest thing since sliced bread I guess. I was already dubious especially as the corporate crowd was pushing it and they never want anything good for the rest of us.
My brother got a university degree in the 2000’s at a local California university. You had to take a “multicultural” set of courses which should have been called “White People Are Evil.” It was just standard Cultural Left Globohomo crap, all about how Whites are evil and how even hyphenated Whites are better than us non-hyphenated types, I guess because they are “ethnic” or something.
Then on an on about Blacks and especially Hispanics and about how they are the greatest thing since Kleenex. Actually, I beg to differ. I’m sorry minorities, but I actually have a higher opinion of Kleenex than Blacks and Hispanics. Kleenex is quite useful and has no downside. The others, not so much, though Hispanics are quite tolerable if you like to live in a somewhat degraded version of American culture that still more or less functions and is quite livable if not paradisical.
Oh yes, the Asians. How can we not forget the model minority?
The whole agenda was open borders, flood the US with minorities because without them, America will fall apart and suck, and we will have a worker shortage because Whites don’t make babies anymore, and how immigrants are essential for this thing called “innovation” (so had did the Japs do it then, anyway?), and how “diversity is our strength, except it isn’t, and it’s probably our weakness.
All of this fake Left “liberal” and “progressive” Cultural Left crap was doused with a huge dose of pure laissez faire capitalist neoliberal economics!
Because that’s the modern Left: neoliberal economics plus neoconservative foreign policy plus the Cultural Left! In other words, Globhomo! Good God. The modern Left is the worst of the left combined with the worst of the right. What could go wrong?
Oh and by the way, due to global warming, 3 billion (yeah billion, you read that right) people from the Global South will “forced” to flee their homelands as they become “unlivable” (And how to people survive in Arabia, the Sahara, the tropics, and the Amazon, pray tell? And guess where they will all have to go? To the Global North, which actually means “White countries”! Where birth rates are collapsing, so we need to be flooded with folks from civilizational failures of countries who will enrich us and innovate us and breed out pesky White genes and diversify us (which has no downside except for FGM, cooking cats and dogs for dinner, and drive-by shootings).
There are actually articles being written on this very topic right now by well-funded “left” corporate outlets. The articles come right out and say that global warming means we must have Open Borders, except then they go on to say that the borders won’t really be totally open, just open for all intents and purposes, and how 3 million non-Whites flooding White countries and turning them all into Kinshasa and Calcutta won’t possibly have any downside, and how anyway if you do turn on your brain and realize it might not be a good idea, you’re a racist, and you need to be canceled!
So anyway, Globohomo isn’t all about about gender and sexual divershitty, mental disorder, and assorted depravity and degeneration, physical, psychological, and spiritual, although that’s sort of the “appetizer” served along with the rest of the McWorld bullshit.
Oh and don’t forget Nazis, fascists, and ISIS and Al Qaeda jihadists to enforce anyone who suggests that maybe this isn’t such a hot idea.
So basically Globohomo is low wages, gay bars, bicycles, homosexuals, transgender bathhouses for all ages, and union busting, with rightwing death squads, Nazis, fascist coups, and ISIS types sent in to terrorize anyone who pipes up a pipsqueak of protest.
I know it seems like Globhomo is all about gays, lesbians, pansexuals, trannies, genderqueer, nonbinaries, trans-speciesists and other forms of sexual and gender moral decay and mental disorder, but there’s actually much more to it than that. It’s not just an anti-gay slur! The LGBTQIAWTF aspect is just part of it, not the whole deal.
Color me dubious, to say the least.
The truth is that women deliberately seek out bad, abusive, toxic, Cluster B, narcissistic, psychopathic, Machiavellian and just plain evil men by preference. Then they sit back and bitch about how they got abused. Duh.
What did you think was going to happen. Although male nice guy myth says that women only like assholes and hate nice guys, it’s more complex than that. I will defer to an ex-girlfriend who was sane, not a feminist at all. We talked about this and she said that ~1/3 of all women like bad men. Of course she was 51 years old when she told me that. And she had been through a harrowing 5 year relationship with a sociopathic sexual sadist that left her deeply scarred. But once again, she picked him, right? She claimed she had been Stockholmed, but they all say that.
I think it makes sense to say that 1/3 of women like bad or even evil men. This is a very base and primitive desire dating back to caveman days or even before. I think it may date to just before we left Africa and there is some recent evidence to back that up. Most of the males in the group were massacred and the remaining females are thought to have been taken prisoner as slaves by the conquering group.
The out of Africa people were terribly lopsided in terms of women to men, there were much more women than men. Of course, conquering tribes have been killing all the men and enslaving all the women ever since. It stands to reason that the only women who survive such events are those who are capable of deep love bonds with profoundly abusive men who have enslaved them and just murdered their husbands and male relatives.
So women have evolved to be, in effect, sex slaves or at least to have that sort of a mindset. With that in mind, the preference for bad boys makes sense. This is a deep emotional need on women’s part and they often don’t even understand why they feel that way. In their 20’s or better yet, after age 30, a lot of women overcome the bad boy addiction by using their frontal lobes. Yes women do have working frontal lobes.
Commenter Tamerlane offers an interesting view of this notion below.
RL: What do you think of this bizarre concept that a lot of what we think of as the real world, or reality itself, is not even real, as in “true”?
I’ll tell you what I think, but get ready for a mindfuck!
We live in a matrix (Maya/Samsara) within a matrix (Universe) within a matrix (Earth) within a matrix (the Internet) within a matrix (the Self).
1. The first matrix (Maya/Samsara) is everything that is possible within space and time. This includes all possible universes, parallel universes, and realms, including beings made out of light, gods, demons, demigods, ghosts, conscious entities that don’t have bodies, on and on. Basically Hindu Cosmology.
2. The second matrix (the universe) consists of our particular universe/realm with its specific laws of physics and spatial-temporal boundaries. Its mysteries are still in the process of being discovered, most recently by the JWST, because our current understanding of physics is incorrect and incomplete.
This includes all matter from the smallest particles (vibrating strings) to the biggest galaxies and black holes to dark matter and dark energy. Not to mention countless intelligent alien civilizations, some that are even millennia more advanced than we ares. This notion is based on UAP theory.
3. The third matrix (Earth) consists of our specific planet, its geological history, and the history of the evolution of life on it. Among its countless, diverse, and crazy lifeforms is Homo sapiens sapiens, a bipedal primate with exceptional cognitive abilities and countless other peculiarities and idiosyncrasies. These smart monkeys went from living in tribes to villages to city-states to kingdoms to nations to empires to a global civilization, all the while increasing their technological abilities to the point of rivaling the god-like beings from their myths.
4. The fourth matrix (the Internet) consists of a worldwide system of computer networks that this bipedal ape only recently invented, which has seemly made everyone lose their fucking minds. These smart apes at this point in history are constantly plugged in and hopelessly addicted to this network, independent of whether that addiction manifests itself as media, movies, music, books, blogs, sports, porn, social media, etc. They are hyperconnected yet have never been more lonely and anxious.
5. The fifth matrix (the Self) is the illusion of the Self, of being someone and of being a person. Every human is constantly and consciously engulfed in this illusion in due to evolutionary selection. It is an ever-present and inescapable part of the human condition, and its ontology is tremendously and ironically influenced by the unconscious of that particular individual based on their mental attributes (IQ/personality) and subjective experiences (memories/samskaras).
The 4th matrix most resembles the matrix from the movie The Matrix (1999) due to sensory redirection of input. In the movie, humans were actually asleep in pods and plugged into the fake reality of what they called “The Matrix” via redirected sensory (sight, sound, taste, touch, smell) input straight into their brains through fabricated electronic signals, which were created with advanced technology.
The Internet is a good proxy for the Matrix because most everyone is “plugged in” to a certain degree. More importantly, their main sensory inputs: sight (via the eyes) and to a lesser degree sound (via the ears) have been hijacked by screens (TV, phone, computer). This hijacking of sensory input has been even further hijacked by the intelligence agencies through Operation Mockingbird and all of the other psychological operations and government activities to program our collective subconscious.
The truth has been so wish-washed and drowned out by means of strategically manufactured misinformation and disinformation that the vast majority of people are propagandized, hypnotized, and gaslighted into the collective psychosis known as Globo-Homo-Schlomo, aka Western Civilization. Because seeing is believing, what they see on screens is for them reality. We are living in Orwell’s 1984. We are literally living in a Matrix of Lies!
Even an individual is miraculously not “plugged in” and living a relatively nomadic lifestyle is affected. Due to the fact that humans are social animals, this fabricated reality will even be imposed upon this nomadic individual, and he will be forced to conform and accept this fictional reality lest he is ostracized.
If he has the intellectual capacity and does his research and therefore starts waking up to the lies and deceits, at first he will be deplatformed, then he will be unpersoned, and if he continues to be a threat to the system, he will finally be gaslighted into insanity and institutionalized or suicided by “Agents”, as in fascist agents of the system: FBI goons, CIA spooks, NSA spies, police state thugs, and the media-industrial complex.
At this point, if you do not possess a high IQ along with independent-mindedness in terms of personality characteristics, you are just another NPC fucktard cow. Alternatively, if you do possess a high IQ along with independent-mindedness but are not a part of the System/Machine/Beast, you are ultimately surrounded by NPC fucktard cattle and are gaslighted into stupefaction on a daily basis. Time to bring out the vodka!
Pertaining to this post and current events, if you haven’t done so already, the following two books are invaluable resources in terms of acquiring a high level understanding of how, what, and why this stuff is, was, and will continue to happen.
Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard
Propaganda: The Formation of Men’s Attitudes by Jacques Ellul
If you don’t have the time, the Wikipedia pages/Goodreads reviews do a great job of summarizing the contents anyways.
Polar Bear: IQ, Race, and History are verifiable facts.
Doug: Really? And yet there is a great deal of disagreement on all of these.
For example, who won the Battle of Kadesh? Many historians think the Hittites won, and the Egyptian Pharaoh had to flee the battle, but the Egyptian claimed a great victory and built a monument to their alleged victory.s
There’s no debate about IQ at all, other than things we still don’t completely understand like the Flynn Effect and race and IQ. But these debates are theoretical, not political.
There’s some debate about race, but I think it’s pretty clear that race is real and exists beyond mere skin tone. Sure, the Crazy Left refuses to believe that, but the Left is as science-hating as the Right nowadays. Yet this notion that race is real is not yet consensus and there is still a lot of debate about how much say differential crime rates among races are products of racial biology or societal structures.
Sadly, I’m afraid that the dice fall on the racial biology angle. Well, fine. But what’s causing that? What causes these differential crime rates if they are biologically charged, which I think they are. You can’t just say “biology.” You have to start pointing to specific genes and what they code for. You have to start comparing brains and genetic frequencies on a racial basis. We are nowhere close to explaining the biology behind racial differences.
That’s going back a long ways.
There’s debate about Ancient History because not much was written down and probably a lot of the writers were as big of liars as the stenographers of power we joust with today. People lie maniacally about modern history, especially concerning geopolitics. This war is the ancient equivalent of geopolitics. Humans haven’t changed in 3,000 years. No doubt people were doing somersaults of lies in whatever version of war history they were writing about back then, just as nations go into lying frenzies in wars even at this late date. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
If you go back far enough in recent history and even going back a few centuries, historians are able to sort out the lies and bullshit from the truth pretty well, especially as We have a fairly decent history of the last couple of thousand years. Before that, things get a lot dicier because little was written down.
Historians are not supposed to be biased actors. They’re supposed to be social scientists with a rigorous commitment to the truth come Hell or high water.
Modern historical analysis is pretty good. The problem now is that intelligence agencies and state propaganda have so warped truth and facts and much of modern history as laid out in, say, Wikipedia is straight up lies. And truth is listed under some section called Conspiracy Theory. False flags, fake news, framed suspects, things happened that never happened, things didn’t happen that happened, Party X did something that Party Y actually did, on and on and on.
So much of modern reality is “constructed” by modern state propaganda here in the West that I almost think that we can be seen as living in a “Matrix.” There’s the truth about recent history – that is, what actually happened. In the West, much of this is referred to as conspiracy theory, enemy lies, and disinformation. Then there are the lies about modern history in which fully constructed fictions as fake as any movie, TV show or novel are presented as historical fact.
The implication is that a lot of what we think of as our modern reality is simply made-up bullshit. So we are living in a fake reality, or unreal reality, or a reality that didn’t even happen. Perhaps a “fictional reality” would be a better way to put it.
The idea that a lot of modern reality boils down to literally living in a Fake World or a Fake Reality (like a TV show, movie, or novel), and that the Real World is sold to us as a faked out lie made up by our enemies is quite mind-boggling if you can actually fit it into your mind. It’s almost like a weird movie plot like The Truman Show or The Matrix.
The longer you sit there with this idea in your head, the weirder it seems. Put it in your head and stir it around a bit:
A lot of what we consider to be “actually existing reality” is really fake!
This is just the latest BS about me. It’s not really interesting to the people interested in the Delphi Murders case. If this sort of thing interests you, go ahead and read, but if it doesn’t, there are more pleasant things to read on here.
He claims to be an actual educated journalist by profession and nothing could be further from the truth.
Indeed, I obtained a BA in Journalism from Long Beach State University in California in 1981. You are welcome to go do your searches and find that out for yourself. I wrote for the underground (unofficial) newspaper on campus and I also wrote for the school magazine. I also worked as an editor of a computer magazine in the 1980’s.
Lindsay’s blog is full of sexual paraphilia comments.
Do you even know what a paraphilia even is, retard? Here is an example of some paraphilias for the short bus Church Lady/Altar Boy crowd over at the LibbyandAbby Reddit. I don’t understand you people to understand the meaning of any of these words because I don’t think you’re even capable of using a dictionary.
And yes, some of them can result in illegal behavior:
There are actually quite a few of these. I think there were 135 at last count. Consult Kraft-Ebbing if you want more, but you all are too stupid to even know who that is.
Obviously the study of paraphilias as unusual sexual interests is a completely normal and proper field of scientific inquiry for any sexologist. I’m an amateur sexologist and my posts about this subject have brought me untold grief because they drove the Church Ladies, Altar Boys, Victorians, and other Sex Fascists. Not that it matters, but I’m not aware of any paraphilias I might have. I don’t wish to be a paraphiliac. I have enough enough problems as it is without throwing that into the mix. Not that having a paraphilia is a bad thing.
I’ve worked with some people with paraphilias in my counseling practice though. I’ve worked with the following paraphilias: pedophilia, voyeurism (he had gotten in trouble with the law), fetishism (especially foot fetishism), and urolagnia. Those are just the ones that come to the top of my head. Human sexual variations, kinks, and perversions are very interesting!
Or an incel not by choice.
I hear this a lot. I’m retired. At my age, nobody has sex anymore (except me I guess). If you look at my life history, I’m about as far from an incel as you can get, not that there’s anything wrong with being an incel. Read my other articles to figure that out.
Lindsay is a hebephile. This makes me conclude he is a girl-attracted hebephile.
I’m a teleiophile. I know none of you pinheads know what that means, so I will tell you to look it up if you can figure out what a dictionary is. One of my best friends is a hebephile though, but he’s never broken the sex laws. And he’s a much better person than any of you sanctimonious, cop-loving twits.
Not only does he obsess about pedo vs. hebe., he said he went into chat rooms with little girls and also went on and on about how sexual 9 yr old girls were. It is NOT okay to be discussing little girls (9 freaking yrs old!) Sexuality. He admitted going into CHILDREN’S chat sites and discussing sexuality with them. When I left they were still trying to explain the problem wasn’t him being specific about age or development preferences in child sex offenders, it was his activities and methods of getting information.
Nope, never happened. Never been in a chatroom full of “little girls,” nor have I ever been in any “children’s chatroom.” Good God, why would I go to such a place? Also, I don’t think 9 year old girls are sexual at all! To me they are completely nonsexual beings, so I would never say such a thing. The only thing I would say about 9 year old girls’ sexuality is that they have none! I hope it’s ok to say that! Once again, I have never been to any “children’s” chatroom to discuss sexuality with them.
First of all, let’s just emphasize how much of a scumbag this blogger is. He constantly defends p**os and that type of behavior. Some of his posts are sickening. He legit admits to being in Facebook groups where he talks to teenagers and even worse. Absolute scum of the earth this guy(s).
I have never been in any Facebook groups where I “talked to teenagers,” at least not that I was aware of anyway. I did talk to a 14 year old girl from Indiana on there once because she ran into a guy on a trail in the woods who frightened her and I was interested in her story. I tried to keep the conversation as clean as possible, but like so many girls that age, after ~20 minutes, she started talking about sex! I couldn’t add much to her comments though and the conversation ended soon after that.
That’s one of the problems with talking to girls that age is that no matter how clean you try to keep the conversation, she’s probably going to bring up sex pretty quickly. It’s one more reason they are called jailbait, and it’s a great reason to avoid them for being a general menace.
I do talk to teenagers all the time though, and I usually talk to them about sex. But those are girls and they’re almost all over 18. I hope that’s ok with y’all!
and how attracted to him these children were.
Well, yeah. Teenage girls aren’t children! They’re “little adults, young adults, or junior adults,” and most of them are much closer to an adult than to a child.
Teenage girls have been after since I was 16. A few of them anyway. There are a lot fewer at my age, but even now, every now and then, one still is! And I am 65 years old! I’ve got some news for you clowns. Women like goodlooking men! Teenage girls are just like women. Whatever a woman likes, a teenage girl likes. And teenage girls like goodlooking men too!
A couple of months ago, a 14 year old girl and two 15 year old girls gushed over my looks. “You are so handsome!” they all said. One of the 15 year olds followed that up by openly propositioning me! She then tried a bunch of tricks to get me to change my mind (they do this) but I didn’t cave. Don’t worry. I turned her down.
Why am I an evil person for experiencing this? Isn’t it on the girls themselves?
I talk to women about sex all the time, often every day, and they’re often new ones. They’re mostly ~18-28 for whatever reason. I don’t usually talk to girls. They’re sort of a bust! If I do, I’m careful about what I say to them. I know the laws in my state very well! I’ll talk to a teenage girl anytime I want! If you don’t like, it, call the cops, you cop-loving prudes!
I just went on it and scrolled randomly and he’s taking about his mind diaphragm. He is just not normal.
What on Earth is a “mind diaphragm?” Jeez, these Church Ladies get upset about everything, don’t they? I was talking about female birth control and I mentioned how in the 1970’s, in my experience, most women used diaphragms and contraceptive foam or spermicide. I hope it’s ok to talk about that!
The guy is pathologically narcissistic and incredibly grandiose.
I hear this diagnosis all the time too. I heard this so many times that I contacted my best old therapist and asked him if I were a narcissist because I was quite worried. He said I did not have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Instead, he said I had “high self-esteem” which most morons confuse with narcissism. Actually they are too different things, but that’s beyond your intelligence level.
I saw several self-confessed pedophiles comment on his blog, including one who graphically detailed his abuse of a little girl in Mexico. That slug Lindsay not only left the post up, but made a comment in response.
Wow, that was a very long time ago! Yes, we had a few folks on that article.
1. A 15 year old girl, not a pedophile at all, who had fallen in love with an actual pedophile and had taken to masturbating to videos of child porn (!).
2. A guy named Wayne, not a pedophile at all, who was all wrapped up in and obsessed with his 11 year old daughter (!).
He had installed hidden cameras in his bathroom so he could watch his daughter while she bathed. And when he talked to her, sometimes he pulled his pants down and put a blanket over himself and masturbated while he did so. He gave her backrubs all the time, which is just fine by me. But he had started asking her if it would be weird if he kissed her. She thought it would be weird. I thought he was violating his daughter’s privacy and I didn’t like what he was doing with that blanket over himself talking to his daughter. I also thought he had gotten way too wrapped up in his daughter, and he needed to step back a bit and get a grip.
3. And then, worst of all, we had an actual pedophile, an Hispanic guy who spoke Spanish, who had relocated to Mexico because I assume the pickings are easier down there. Being an expat is pretty typical with these types as most Third World countries don’t have strict laws against child molesting. He had molested two of his young neighbors, girls age five and six. He didn’t harm them physically. He basically convinced them to pleasure him with their hands. Both mothers found out about it and forbade the girls to go there.
This was a lower middle class neighborhood and he said this sort of thing went on all the time in such places, and apparently most women from these environments get molested as girls and it’s just seen as a normal thing females experience growing up there. No one makes much of a fuss about it, and I’m not sure how much damage is caused because it’s so normalized. The cops don’t seem to care much about it and barely prosecute it.
We let lots of people post here. I’d rather a pedophile or a Nazi post here than a Republican! They’re more dignified!
I don’t turn people in. I’m not a cop! I don’t even like cops very much, and I barely want to help them at all. Anyway, the guy was in Mexico. Let the Mexicans sort it out. I did set my commenters loose on him though, and they took him on pretty well. They beat him up pretty good in the comments section.
Not to mention continuous rants about age of consent laws.
This is not so. I have no issues with AOC laws in the US. I do have some issues with how they are enforced, which nowadays is excessively. I live in a state with an 18 AOC, which is high for the US. It’s fine with me as I ain’t touching those girls anyway. Actually I rarely talk about AOC laws, and I almost never criticize them except for lack of Romeo and Juliet laws (every state should have them with minimum three years difference) and putting minors in jail for breaking AOC laws. Knock it off right now! Hey! Cops! Leave those kids alone!
I used to read his writings and try to guess what his DSM-V personality orders were, for fun.
It’s none of anyone’s business, but I have never been diagnosed with anything on Axis 2, thank God. And that’s straight from 30 different psychiatrists and psychologists!
However something has popped out to me about him, I’m pretty certain that he is an Aspie (Aspergers syndrome) which is through lacks of a better term high functioning autism.
So many people online have been calling me that lately that I contacted my best old therapist above and asked him, and he said I definitely don’t have Assburgers. In fact, I have the opposite. I am acutely socially aware. I just don’t care about other people’s reactions to what I say. I’m not a conformist like all of you cowardly, cowering, play-by-the-rules sheep. I say what I want whenever I want! If you don’t like it, call the cops!
Lindsay also had a counseling business going on where he states on his blog that he counseled pedophiles.
This is correct. I worked with a couple of them, and I worked with both of them for free because they were very interesting to me. One was very hard to work with! He was also one of the best human beings I’ve ever known. That damned pedophile was a far better person than any of my enemies. He had never offended either and I was proud of him for that. He also got a lot better when I worked with him.
Of course, he’s not a counselor anymore.
I’m a peer counselor for people with OCD, and I also work with problems in living, growth stuff (if you want to grow as a person) and deep stuff (if you want to explore your inner psyche). I have been told that I am very good. People come from all over the world to work with me! Put that in your pipe and smoke it, moralfags!
…apparently he dates almost very young models (in his dreams).
Well, not usually, but at age 59, I was dating a 27 year old model for a while. We were mostly just friends though. At age 57, I was dating a 48 year old woman who had been a model in her youth. She was still very beautiful too! As you get older, of course it gets harder to do such things.
And let’s add misogynist to the list of things he is.
I disagree that I am a misogynist unless telling the truth about women makes one such a person.
He can’t deal with a real grownup woman.
My last three major relationships were with:
- 1. 1 1/2 years: A 48-49 year old woman who was madly in love with me wanted to marry me.
- 2. 1 1/2 years: A 51-52 year old woman who was crazy in love with me wanted me to come live with her part-time in a foreign country.
- 3. 5 1/2 years: A 55-61 year old woman who was deeply in love with me and very much wanted to marry me.
Polar Bear: Ukraine displays the folly of neo-Nazism today.
It is bizarre. Most Ukrainian Jews are literal Nazis, including their leader, the Nazi Jew Zelensky.
Nazi Jews!? WTH is that? How is that even a thing? Once you get to that point, the words Nazi and Jew cease to have any meaning.
I do like that a lot of Jews are catching on to these Nazis. I saw a recent thread on Twitter, and about half the Jews (a lot of them were Israelis) were saying “Ukrainians are antisemites and Nazis.” Duh. The other half were defending the Ukrainians. I saw a TV spot out of Israel by a retired Israeli intelligence chief, and he was blasting Zelensky in the worst terms as being the worst sort of Jew of all, worse than a capo:
He’s supporting people who murdered hundreds of thousands of our people.
Hell, he’s like an actual SS member! By they way, there were many mischlings in the SS.
I criticize Jews on here, but I have no respect whatsoever for a Jew who supports Nazis! It’s sleazy situation ethics “what’s good for the Jews” run amok.
Basic Jewish “morality,” which to be fair is just tribal morality on steroids:
- Is it “good for the Jews,” no matter how evil? Support it.
- Is is “bad for the Jews,” no matter how good? Oppose it.
Pretty much amoral Realpolitik too, and of course that term was invented by a Jew. You don’t have to be Jewish to feel this way.
World geopolitics runs on this sleazy principle:
- Nations don’t have morals. They have interests.
Last time I checked, Machiavelli wasn’t Jewish, and he wrote the book on this stuff. But I’m sure this was going on long before Machiavelli. Self-interest has always trumped morality in humans.
I am glad that some Jews are deciding to have some actual hard and fast morals that are not subject to sleazy contingency though. These Jews are saying,
Look, you can ally with a lot of sleazeballs (after all, we’re Jewish, right?), but one group you don’t ally with are Nazis. Jews don’t make alliance with Nazis. Jews kill Nazis.
You’ve got to stand up for your people, and siding with your worst enemies on some manipulative basis is as slimy as it gets. There’s no such thing as the “nice Nazis” or they “Nazis who are good for the Jews, at least for now.”
Any Jew has to consider all Nazis as their worst deadly enemies. I may disagree with their POV to the hilt, but I will always give at least a modicum of respect for any Jew who stands up to and fights the enemies of the Jews. You have to support your people, and that means fighting your enemies.
Any Jew who supports Nazis, and I don’t what kind of “super-special” Nazis these might be, loses all respect in my book. I don’t even want to talk to someone like that. For that reason, I even have a bit of respect Jews who regard Arabs as deadly enemies even though I often hate these Jews. Let’s face it. If you’re Israeli, the Arabs are your deadly enemies. For God’s sake, they’re trying to kill you, man!
I had a client who was a Libyan Jew and former Israeli. He had now moved to the US. He agreed with me that at least now Israeli behavior did not have to be on his conscience living in the Diaspora. You would be surprised at how many Jews agree with me when I say that!
Well, of course, we are on the Left, the Israeli Left. But on the other hand, the Arabs are tying to kill us!
– A former Israeli Libyan Jew expat relocated to the US.
Above all else, defend your people!
Polar Bear: Antifa are so woke they are gay. I stumbled upon antifa gear and they specified genderfluid as a category and had what looked like a non-White female-to-male trans modeling an anti-racist Viking shirt.
Antifa is gay, bi, pan, poly, genderfluid, and tranny as Hell. Are there any straight Antifa men?
Bizarrely, they are also insanely feminist, so they are all #metoo at the same. I don’t see how any of the men there manage to have flirt with, date, or have sex with women because #metoo effectively bans that.
There was a case of a young Antifa Alpha, probably a Chad, who was slaying young Antifa chicks left and right in a local Antifa group in Oakland. Of course they said he was “preying” (LOL) on “naive girls” (LOL). Notice the feminist infantilization and denial of agency of grown women. They were calling him out and this and either demanding he be thrown out or threatening to beat him up for being an Alpha slayer stud, which according to Antifa feminism is probably some sort of misogynistic fascist.
The combination of Globohomo LGBTQIAWTF “queer” utter sexual license and depravity combined with #metoo deranged feminist ultra-Puritanism is bizarre.
Sometimes I think the culture of the US is “pornographic Puritanism” or “pornographic Victorianism.” On the one end, society is soaked top to bottom on totally porned-out madness which gets men all riled up. Then you go out into society and everyone’s clutching pearls and screaming about “creeps” (guys trying to get laid). You look at a woman in a store and you get banned from the location as a “creep” (a guy with an obvious sex drive.)
Of course this sort of insanity would be expected in a female-run society or Matriarchy because feminism is simply the female psyche reified, institutionalized, and set down into law and rule. Women are “puritanical nymphomaniacs” as part of the basic nature of the female psyche, so it’s logical that if you put women in charge of rules and laws about gender and sex, you end up with exactly this sort of madness. And women will never change it because to them this sort of irrationality is totally normal and rational since they experience it in their own minds every day.
Warning, long, 45 pages.
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Note: This post has been substantially updated with the new information that the police think that Richard Allen is the man on the bridge who killed Abby Williams and Libby German.
Let’s cut straight to the chase here. Normally I start off taking down whatever lies have been told about me since the last time I posted. These are interesting to read through even if you’re not interested in the subject because there is a tremendous amount of information about the crime and everything surrounding it, so it can be educational in that sense. But in this case, those will follow the main text.
The Big Break in the Case: Richard Allen, Arrested for the Delphi Murders, Raises More Questions Than Answers
Well, the Big Whopper happened. There was an arrest in the Delphi Murders case, and yes, the man was arrested for Murder.
In our group, there are a few people who do a lot of the posting. I think most others just lurk. The group has been very busy lately since the arrest. We operate on a peer review principle that holds that everyone’s comments and opinions are up for grabs, and anyone can either agree with them or take them down. I think we are very nice about disagreeing with each other, but we do disagree in there a lot. After some time though we arrive at a consensus.
Originally, the consensus of the regular posters on our group, including me, was that Richard Allen is not the Delphi Killer. He was not Bridge Guy or BG, the man on the bridge. And he absolutely did not murder, help murder, or plan the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German. Neither his phone nor his vehicle can be placed in the area during the time of the crime.
However, recently our views have changed now that police have come out and said he is the Delphi Killer and this is no longer consensus. There are still some who think he is innocent, and there are indeed some who are convinced that he is indeed the killer. Consensus now is confusion with most uncertain of Allen’s role in this crime which seems to bring more questions than answers.
Some think he was at the bridge and played a role, which seems dubious given the Felony Murder charge being the only one leveled, others think he played some more peripheral role by committing some other crime and got caught up in the murders inadvertently. This is frankly still my position. Probably the main position is complete confusion as we do not understand Allen’s role in this crime at all and so many things do not seem to add up or make sense. So our consensus now would be that we are confused about this latest development and don’t know what to make of it.
First of all, I will go through the reasons some of us have a very hard time believing that this is him on the bridge. This article was originally written on the basis that Allen was innocent, but after police said he was the Bridge Man who murdered the girls, most group members have changed their minds.
Allen is 5’4 and BG is 5’8-5’9. This has been questioned, and the argument is that his height is really 5’7, but my information from his driver’s license and court records on the Internet is that his height is 5’4 on those records. An argument has also been made that the FBI had a large range for BG’s height, but that is not so. It was always 5’8-5’9. No, the FBI did not mess up their analysis. I’ve also seen very well-done re-enactments with precise measurement tools and video that also pegged BG at 5’8-5’9.
We were told very early on that whatever eye color BG had, he did not have blue eyes. The police were very confident about this fact provided by an eyewitness. The problem here is that Allen has eyes that are very blue. The square pegs in round holes solution to this is to say that the witness got the eye color wrong. Using Occam’s Razor, which is one of the tools that we use in our sleuthing group, the simplest explanation of these facts is that Allen is not BG, as he most definitely has blue eyes.
While Allen does not seem to have been a regular to the bridge area, there is evidence that he was there at least once. About a year after the murders, he accompanied his 28 year old daughter to the bridge. She walked out on it a few steps and sat down, and it was there that he took her picture. Beyond that though, we have no evidence that he ever walked the length of the bridge as BG must have, not to mention with the confident stride of BG, who walked that bridge as if he had done it many times.
The killer knew the lay of the land very well. At the very least he had spent a lot of time around that area. He was very familiar with the bridge and also with the private property in the area, in particular Ron Logan’s land. There is no evidence that Allen was intimately familiar with this area or that he was very familiar with Ron Logan’s land or had even ever set foot on it.
I had assumed that Allen is not an outdoorsman, but that may be incorrect. At any rate, does he own a camouflage cap like BG’s? I’ll tell you who does. Mr. X! Indeed, at the 2019 press conference, remember where the police acted so weird and flustered and then suggested that the killer may have been in the room? Of course the denier crowd has no explanation for that.
Using Occam’s and judging from the behavior of the police, the only possible conclusion is that the main suspect was in the audience, and they were surprised by this, and this is why the police acted so flustered and upset. From the police, we know that Mr. X was the main suspect from soon after the murders until at least a four months ago.
And as a matter of fact, Mr. X was indeed in the audience.
But what is more interesting than that is that, perhaps to taunt the police, the photograph of Mr. X wore the exact same camouflage cap that BG is wearing on the bridge to the press conference that day! That’s awfully brazen of him. He’s either the killer or he’s not, but he must have known he was the main suspect. In either case, he was taunting the police.
There are rumors that Allen is a hunter. If so, is he a deer hunter? Is he an avid, nearly fanatical deer hunter like Mr. X? We don’t know this. Notice that BG has a deer kit around his waist. This along with the camouflage cap fits with the main suspect being an avid, nearly obsessive deer hunter.
BG is very strong. The heavier girl was dragged for quite some distance. Further, the terrain around the crime scene is very rugged, full of downed wood everywhere, and quite steep. One of our members went there and said you had to go straight up and then straight down three different 15-foot tall ravines.
They also said it was dangerous, at least in November with a foot of leaves on the ground. Some members of her party fell down while traversing the land. In Anthony Greeno’s re-enactment of the crime, when he gets to the crime scene, we can see that it is quite rugged and steep. Richard Allen does not appear to be a very strong man.
Richard Allen is not a man of action. Men are doers or watchers. Allen, along with Kegan Kline, is a watcher, basically a passive man. BG looks like he’s in pretty damn good shape. Allen looks flabby and out of it. I can’t see him hightailing across that bridge or even going near it.
BG was confident, extroverted, action-oriented, and downright brazen. This is one of the most brazen crimes that I am aware of. To use a cliche, BG had balls of steel. Does Allen look brazen? Does he look like he has balls of steel? More like balls of jello to me. I hate to insult people, but he seems more the cowardly type than anything.
Just looking at Richard Allen and observing him and his behavior (including his writing as we analyzed that too), some of us do not believe that Richard Allen has it in him to commit a horrendous crime like this. He would not be able to do it. He wouldn’t even be able to plan it.
Richard Allen has probably committed a serious crime. On the other hand, he may not have hurt anyone when he did it. People who know him heading all the way back to high school say that Richard Allen is basically a real nice guy. “The nicest guy you’ve ever met.” This is commonly said about passive, watcher type men. They’re introverted and a bit shy and self-effacing. They don’t put on airs. They’re not arrogant. They’re humble.
I have been studying sex murderers for decades now, and in this case, we may have an actual serial killer, as the Evansdale and Delphi Murders may be connected. I’ve studied their personalities in depth. I’ve studied psychology and psychiatry for 40 years. And I work as a peer counselor for people with mental disorders in addition to more “coaching” type of counseling. In the course of doing this work, I have come to “read” people pretty well. Clients sometimes say, “It seems like you are crawling around in my head reading my thoughts.”
Anyway, I think I’m a pretty good judge of character and personality, even based on little information. And while it is true that depraved sex murderers and serial killers of women and girls come in a lot of different types, they are almost always psychopaths.
Which brings up the question, “Is Richard Allen a psychopath? And one thing I’ve never heard anyone say about a brutal sex murderer of multiple females is that he was a nice guy, much less the nicest guy you ever met. In fact, “nice guy” and “nicest guy you’ve ever met” pretty much rules out depraved sadistic sex murderer of multiple females.
These men, whatever else is wrong with them, are coldblooded. Narcissism is often prominent. They are often described as aggressive, mean, violent, ill-tempered, or even “evil.”
In some cases, they have split personalities, and the monster personality only comes out some of the time. But when it does, it looks like a totally different person. And the rest of the time, while they may be normal, they’re definitely not “nice.” You simply cannot be a “nice person” and commit crimes like this. It takes a certain coldheartedness.
Based on his personality alone, some of us doubt that Richard Allen could be the Delphi Killer.
About the section below, the group is still arguing about Indiana’s Felony Murder law (Murder 2) and what exactly it involves. As yet there is no consensus in the group about what this law means and asserts and how it relates to Allen’s case.
Now we get to perhaps the most important meat of this argument. Yes, Allen has been arrested for “murder,” but most people stop reading right there. If you read the Indiana statute for Murder 2, this is the state’s Felony Murder law. Felony Murder is defined below.
Felony murder is only applied when someone died in the commission of a felony. The person charged under the statute did not deliberately kill, attempt to, or plot to kill the person who died as a (possibly partial) result of the other crime committed.
In other words, based on this Felony Murder charge, Richard Allen absolutely did not kill intentionally kill Abby Williams and Libby German. Further, he did not help anyone else do so. Going even further, he was not even part of a plot to kill those girls.
The police think they can prove whatever charges they have on this guy. But if he deliberately killed the girls, was an accomplice to the killer, or was a part of a plot to kill them, he would absolutely be charged with Murder 1.
People are making arguments that Felony Murder just means that someone was killed in the commission of another felony. So in this case, it was a murder committed during the commission of kidnapping, another felony. The problem here is that if they can prove kidnapping, they can prove murder. Clearly the man on the bridge killed those girls. If they think he committed both kidnapping and murder, then he would be charged with both Kidnapping and Murder 1 and probably a number of other crimes too.
So what felony did Allen commit? Perhaps he helped get rid of evidence of the murders. However, if he had done that, police would have charged him with Accessory to Murder. That’s a completely different crime than Felony Murder and implies a deeper involvement. Basically you helped the killer get away with the crime by hiding him or getting rid of evidence after the case.
Some of us believe that Allen is peripherally connected to this crime. He’s simply the lowest branch. BG is up there in the crown of the tree. We think there are a number of people who are involved in this case, peripherally and otherwise. So far we have been told that the main police theory that was that there were two killers and five people who were peripherally involved who had nothing to do with those murders. Now they seem to have thrown all of that out. Paul Holes remarked that this case extremely complex, so complex he feared it would never be solved.
The question here though is what felony exactly did Richard Allen commit. Thinking back above to what sort of a person we know he is, violence seems to be ruled out. Psychologically, he’s more like Kegan Kline, passive. Kegan is up on child porn charges and charges of getting pornographic material from young teenage girls. In other words, he’s basically a creepy pervert. A lot of CP collectors are creepy perverts at least in terms of their interests. Not that you could spot them at the grocery store!
But if he’s a KK type in terms of interests, then it follows that he may be going down on a similar felony to Kegan’s: CP or possibly procuring pornographic materials from young teenage girls.
Also, we know that the break in the case that resulted in Allen’s arrest came as a result of interrogations of Kegan Kline. Allen is reportedly Friend #1 of Friends 1 and 2 who were also using the anthony_shots profile. So he’s somehow tied in with the anthony_shots profile. But he can’t be a part of the actual murder plot because then he’s going down on Murder 1. What is his actual criminal connection (if any) to anthony_shots profile? We have no idea!
What is Kline’s actual connection to do with the crime itself? Sure, he was using anthony_shots to get pornographic material from young teenage girls. But what does that have to do with the case, even if Libby may have given some her material to him, which seems to be a possibility? We don’t know. Did either Kegan or Allen use the anthony_shots profile to lure the girls to the scene? He can’t have because that makes him part of the murder plot, and he’s going down on Murder 1.
Let’s go to rumors about Kline’s involvement. First there is the nonsense and self-aggrandizing puffery from Murder Shits (Murder Sheets) podcasters, most if not all of which is probably not even true. Remember that their entire claim to fame and eternal greatness was their theory that Tony and Kegan Kline murdered those girls (despite Kegan not driving a car and either one of them being too fat to walk on that bridge).
That’s obviously not true at all, particularly now with the arrest of Allen. MS probably doesn’t even have any good LE sources at all. Why else print a bunch of BS? Good LE sources don’t tell you BS. Murder charges will not be filed against Kegan, and Tony was never even a serious suspect except in delirious people’s fevered imaginations.
What about other rumors? Our sources are better than theirs. From them we have only heard that Kegan is connected somehow to the murder tape that was shot of the murders. We know this tape exists, but we don’t know that it was marketed on the Internet. That’s just a rumor.
The rumors say that Kegan was handling the murder tape, and his trip to Vegas soon after the murders to talk to his main source for the really bad CP of little girls was to deliver this tape. Kegan is said to have put it on CD to make it harder to copy, as then there is only one hard copy.
The tape may well have been put on the Internet, and that may be what the investigators’ trip to Paris to look at the Yello servers over there was all about. Yello is a livestreaming service. This would imply that the tape was livestreamed somehow at some point, perhaps after the fact.
Perhaps Allen obtained the tape. One of our top investigators who has worked on this case for four years, including many visits to Delphi itself, told us that Allen and Mr. X are said to be very close. If this is the case, then perhaps he got it from Mr. X. If he got it after the murders were committed, even if he knew Mr. X did it, that doesn’t make him part of a murder plot because it’s after the fact. He’s not an accessory either as he’s not helping to cover up a murder.
However, as the murder tape was the product of a double murder, the trafficking in it after the fact if the intention of the murders in part was the make a video of the crime to make money off of it could be seen as Felony Murder, as production of the tape was presumably one reason the girls were killed.
Perhaps Kegan was threatened with such a charge too if he also handled the tape, and this is why he made a deal with the cops to rat out Allen and save his ass. Kegan is cowardly, and cowardly people will often give up anyone to save themselves. It takes a strong man to refuse to rat people and take one for the team when you could save your ass any time just be fingering another person. People don’t realize that.
So, Allen obtained the tape directly from Mr. X, the proximity to the killer perhaps being the reason for the Felony Murder charge, as people further away from the killer are going to be harder to charge with this. He put it on some computer media that is not all that secure, say a USB drive. He gave it to Kegan who transferred it to the CD for better security.
Bottom line is some of us think Allen played a peripheral role. His role may have been in trafficking in the murder tape of the crime recorded by the killer. Perhaps he dealt directly with the killer to obtain the tape, hence the severity of the charges and the reason for Felony Murder as opposed to something else.
At Beyond Highbrow, some of us are concerned that the police may be trying to frame Allen for the murders of these girls. However, the case has been so poisoned that everyone and their uncle thinks, or excuse me knows, that he’s guilty as Hell. The media all knows he did it. Any jury will obviously know that he did it. Of course he can’t get a fair trial in Indiana. It’s doubtful he could get one in the US. He’s being saddled with a Public Defender instead of a good criminal defense attorney. This does not bode well.
We do not think police are above framing people. In the Kline interrogations, police said at different times that they knew that Kegan and then his father committed killed those girls. They knew that that was not the case. So why tell innocent men that they know they committed horrible murders? Maybe to frame them?
There is a rumor that police all but waterboarded Garrett Kirts to try to get him to confess to the crime. I can assure you that at that time, they probably knew that he was innocent. In fact, Mr. X was the main suspect at that time. So this looks like an attempt to frame Kirts for the murders.
One More Problem: Mr. X
First Leigh Kerr and then our main police source said that Mr. X was the main suspect in this case. They both said he had been the main suspect for since not long after the murders. The last we heard from our source was that he was still the main suspect, and he had been the main suspect for five years now. Suddenly Richard Allen is arrested. We know he has not been arrested for the murders because he’s obviously innocent of that crime.
Further, the evidence that Mr. X committed this crime is substantial though not confirmatory enough to file a charge against him. On the contrary, the evidence that Allen killed those girls is frankly absolutely zero. The sum total of the evidence that Allen is the killer is the fact that “murder” charges were filed against him. However, the specific murder charge is only filed where the person involved did not, was not an accomplice to and was not part of a plot to kill the victim(s). So the argument that Allen committed the crime is already on thin ice and seems fatal right out the starting gate.
What we acknowledge as fact is that Mr. X was the main suspect for five years up until at least four months ago. However, it is possible that Mr. X has been dumped as a suspect, all of the evidence against him trash binned, and it has turned out that this new guy, who seems to have literally fallen out of the sky, is the killer. Is it possible? Sure, anything’s possible. But if that were true they would have filed Murder 1 on him.
Are they waiting for more evidence to file Murder 1 on this guy? Well, maybe.
Can someone give us one reason why we should believe this guy is the killer when the sum total of evidence against him is a 330 Short Bus riders chanting, “Hurr durr they arrested him for murder duhh.”? “Some guy got arrested for murder (when the murder charge rules out that he had anything to do with the murder) is not evidence of anything whatsoever! It’s evidence that cops arrested some dude for some crime. Cops arrest the wrong people all the time. Cops frame people all the time. DA’s knowingly convict innocent people and withhold evidence that they are innocent all the time.
Can someone please come up with the tiniest bit of evidence in favor the theory that Allen killed these girls? How about maybe…one thing?
How about some more things? Motive? Of course there’s no motive. This totally passive and rather harmless man woke up one morning and decided to commit when of the most brilliantly planned and executed, complex, bizarre, and brazen double homicides of the 20th Century. Why? Because I guess he just felt like it and he’s eeeeevil, despite the fact that we have no history of this evil in his entire life history prior to this event.
We know from the police that the killer had an accomplice, a much younger man. Or this is what they told us four months ago. And it appears that they had someone in mind. Ok, what happened to this guy, who I assume they had some evidence against? Binned, just like Mr. X? Ok, we now have to excellent suspects with evidence piled up over five years binned in favor of the man who fell from the sky. Well, it’s possible I guess.
But what about the bizarre crime scene described to us by police, two search party ladies interviewed independently, and crime scene photos? And the police told us that three young men had set up that scene to scare a pregnant girl into an abortion. We have the names of two of them. At the moment, police have no evidence of involvement in the murder plot, although they are suspects nevertheless. So who set up this wacko crime scene and why? The other theory at least has explanatory adequacy. It explains why a scary scene like this was set up beforehand and how all this crazy stuff got to the scene without being carried there by BG.
How does the Allen theory account for all this weird stuff at the crime scene? I guess he set it up himself? He went to Logan’s property and trespassed to place this considerable list of items around, presumably before the crime? Has he ever been on Logan’s land even one time, trespassing or with permission? And why all the creepy props? I guess he scattered those about because he’s eeeeevil.
Separate police sources have told us that one of the girl victims was pregnant. Our best police source added that she was impregnated by an adult man who was pressuring her to get an abortion. She was balking, and this mess had something to do with the homicide, including a rumored disembowelment, evacuation of abdominal contents, and removal of the uterus to hide the pregnancy.
Ok so how does the pregnant girl figure into Mr. X? Not at all. And if the disembowelment and removal of the uterus rumor is true, why on Earth would Allen, the “nicest guy you met,” do such a thing? Did he know she was pregnant? How would he and why would he care? Why on Earth would he remove her uterus for God’s sake?
The charge is that we are “sticking to our guns” because we do not want to be proven wrong. First of all, we were not wrong on the case of the Delphi Murders! For at least the last year and half, we have never stated that any particular person was the Delphi Killer even one single time.
All we have been saying during that period was what Leigh Kerr and our police sources told us, that Mr. X was the main suspect in the Delphi Murders. And we are sticking to our guns on that. We believe that Mr. X was the main suspect in the Delphi Murders for five years until at least four months ago. We don’t think this is true. We know that this is true. However, we have no information on whether he was the main suspect after four months ago because we lost our best police source. So since four months ago, we have no idea what is going on.
What appears to have happened is that at some time in the last four months, police dropped Mr. X, his suspected accomplice, and three men in a peripheral role from the crime altogether. They also dumped the main motive for the crime (the crime now has no motive) and theories about how the bizarre crime scene was set up. Now, there is no explanation for that.
We no longer have an explanation for how the suspect had a deep and intimate familiarity with the bridge itself and Ron Logan’s private property. This is now unexplained.
The unknown car at the CPS building from 12-5, which police think was the killers car and the period it was parked there for, is now completely unexplained or irrelevant. The square pegs in round holes brigade now says that the car was never part of the case in the first place. That seems odd as they were focused on it for so long.
The fact that Mr. X’s cellphone pinged the CPS building from 12-5 PM on 2/13 is now unexplained. Mr. X threw his cellphone into a car at the crime scene and then went to another town where he was seen in a bank by Nate Miller, except the camera at the bank never recorded him? Mr. X states that he has no explanation for why his cellphone pinged that building during that period. Why did Mr. X apparently lie about his alibi? He apparently wasn’t in that town at all. Why did Nate Miller provide a fake alibi for Mr. X? Why did Mr. X need one in the first place?
There remains no explanation for why Mr. X was searching for the girls at 6:30 PM on 2/13, one half hour before the search was announced. How did he figure that out? Does he have precognition?
Why did he make up a lie about losing his keys when it never happened? What was the point of lying about something like that?
Why on Earth did he park his truck directly above the girls’ bodies to search for them when everyone else was searching in the opposite direction? Why did he leave his truck directly above the girls for 18 hours?
How did he mysteriously find the girls? By sheer luck? Why did he contaminate the scene by touching both bodies if indeed he did?
Why did he need counseling for months after the murders? Even the families didn’t seek that out.
At the same time that the police dropped Mr. X and entourage, the motive, and all of the other evidence implicating these folks, they chose a new main suspect, Richard Allen. This is what appears to have happened. We’re not disputing that.
We don’t know who killed those girls. We don’t have the faintest idea who did it. But some of us think that Mr. X is a much better suspect than Allen.
Police are saying he’s the man on the bridge. Then why are they filing a charge against him that says he played no role in the murders? I guess they really must want this case solved.
Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.
– Lavrentin Beria, Stalin’s right-hand man.
In a criminal case against me, the DA knew that I was innocent of the crime but he pressed charges anyway because he could not admit he did not understand the statute and he wanted to keep his batting average up. I ended up paying $1,500 for a lawyer so I could pay a $10 fine.
But based on the new police belief, what is the likelihood that Mr. X, an accomplice, and three peripherally involved people were the main suspects for the murders and other events for years along with a highly elaborate theory explaining motive and other aspects in the murders, and then suddenly the police binned all five men and all of the accumulated evidence against them and replaced them with a new suspect, the previous unknown named Richard Allen, who seems to have literally fallen from the sky like some lost forlorn meteorite searching for a home it never had?
Sure, it’s possible. Anything’s possible. Main suspects get replaced all the time, even after being suspected for years. It’s not unheard of. But what’s the likelihood that this occurred?
Loss of Our Main Police Source
This source has been slowly leaking bits and pieces of information to us for 1 1/2 years. I am certain that there is much that they are withholding from us. The detective in question is leaking to a co-worker of one of our members, a retired homicide detective. Our member gets the information from her co-worker and then gives it to me. So for those who care, yes, our information is 3rd hand. So what? The thing that we never revealed is the relationship between the co-worker and our source the detective.
In fact, she is his daughter. So for this woman to be lying to us and giving us bad data, she would have to be leaking to her very own father. To our critics who say we are being given bad information (Looking at you Delphi_Nut, I mean Delphi_Not, I mean Delphi_Dog Knot, I mean Delphi_Nit, I mean Delphi_Knot), they need to think about this. This working detective is making up fake stories and telling them directly to her very own father, who was also a detective just like she is. Really?
Unfortunately, the co-worker moved on to another job, and the detective source does not deal directly with our member. She was only comfortable leaking to her Dad. So we’re SOL now, without a good police source anymore. Before her, we got leaks from maybe four police officers, but in each case, it was just one statement, and then they went away.
Bottom line is we are now without any good police sources. Those sources are what made us the best Delphi group of all. We are trying very hard to get new sources, but as you might guess, it’s not so easy.
The problem here is that our last info drop from the source was cryptic as usual, but it was also very brief, with her saying that is all she can and will tell us. She had been clamming up lately, as she told us she was afraid of getting caught leaking.
Richard Allen was arrested after we lost our source. Hence we cannot bounce any of this Allen break off of her to get her take on it, and I’m sure she would have given us something. So this is one reason why we are as clueless as anyone else about Richard Allen. Pretty much the blind leading the blind here I’m afraid.
We do have some more ideas on the murder itself that are not covered below or in the Richard Allen section above. I think it is best to leave those for another post. We are still trying to work out what exactly happened in these murders because let’s face it, neither we nor anyone but the police know these things!
Debunking Rumors and Lies and Expansion of Previously Discussed Issues
First of all, as usual, let’s go through the usual process of correcting all of the lies that have been spread about me lately.
He’s a smart guy but he’s got a screw loose and he apparently can’t admit when he’s wrong.
That’s not true at all. All I do my whole life is admit I’m wrong. It’s kind of a habit. And on this case, we have admitted that we were wrong so many times I can’t even count them. Of the things we said in our earlier posts based almost exclusively on rumors, ~85
Lindsay said all info came from “multiple sources” but non-confirmed. Such as: that raping Abby was the motive.
Some of our material is confirmed by police and interviews with search party ladies. We regard that as confirmed information. The motive for the murders was not to rape Abby Williams. In fact, neither girl was raped in the typical sense of the word.
Also for someone who admits to being immersed in rumors, Lindsay sure doesn’t do a whole lot by way of fact checking or attempting to. He literally couldn’t tell us whether his LE source was local or state based.
This is from tobor_rn. By the way, he can’t spell. A great sleuth who has collapsed and is now disastrous.
Fact checking is all we do here. And group members are encouraged to fact check each every member and particularly me. Can someone tell me why I should help this clown uncover one of our best police sources who could possibly get in a ton of trouble for leaking to us? And by the way, I do know the answer to that question of what job our source had.
And he also said “we were wrong about XYZ but NOW trust us.”
Right. We change our minds all the time on here about everything. You know, like REAL detectives do? Also we had much better sources lately, including people in law enforcement itself, so our theories got a lot better.
By the way, do any of you publish in academic journals? I do. I publish in peer reviewed academic journals. And trust me, this is how science works. Science is wrong all the time. People throw out hypotheses or even conclusions, they get torn up, and its back to the drawing board. Science is always getting things wrong and it’s always self-correcting.
He talks about Libby being badly beaten almost beyond recognition.
This was an early rumor that we no longer believe was true. Dated from very early on, as in the very first days after the bodies were found.
Ha ha I like how he says to stop calling the killer a paedophile.
Correct. Just because a killer murders two teenage girls in a sex murder, that does not indicate that he is a pedophile. Many sex killers kill teenage girls, and almost none of them are pedophiles. Pedophilic killers kill little children, not teenagers. Teenage girls look like grown women, not little children. So men who are attracted to grown women are also attracted to teenage girls, albeit at a slightly lower level. However, all normal men are attracted to 15-17 year old girls at a pretty high level, 82
By the way, you might want to look up the definition of the word pedophile because 95
Because he cleaned it with bowl cleaner which was found on Liberty.
The empty toilet bowl cleaner was supposedly found on the forest floor. Furthermore, you can clearly see a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner on BG in his left jeans pocket. We have no information that it was found on Libby’s body and I doubt if it was. Also the information that an empty bottle of toilet bowl cleaner at the scene came directly from the police.
Leigh Kerr got the idea of his main suspect from Lindsay.
Other way around. I read LK’s description of his main suspect and was convinced that he was correct. Then we went to work on a deep dive into Mr. X in which involved a former police detective making phone calls all over the country to retired and serving LE to see what we could find on him. It was via this retired officer’s work that we obtained our main police sources who have been leaking to us ever since, one female detective in particular.
Becky Patty has confirmed that the keys were never lost. Have you heard of Urban Myths? Well this is a Rural Myth about the lost keys. Some LE vehicles did have to move so that PB could get his truck outta there. All of this happened on the 14th. I don’t believe PB was parked in that cemetery spot on the 13th, just the 14th. But there are people who swear it was both days. (which doesn’t make sense IMO).
PB didn’t loose his keys. When they were contacted about moving the truck, the response was ” we will come over and move it, just let me find the keys.”
There is a police transcript talking about Mr. X’s wife coming to the crime scene to bring him his car keys because he lost them. So there was definitely a story about lost keys. Ron Logan said he found Mr. X on his land at 6:30 PM on the 13th. We believe that Mr. X was parked at that time in the same spot where his truck was seen on the 14th. Furthermore, Ron described it as, “I found Mr. X creeping around my land,” as in, he didn’t even ask permission to be on the land. In the comment above this one, Cheeky Yank is doing some good sleuthing. He’s one of the only decent sleuths left on that board, but even he’s probably lost it lately.
I can’t say Tina’s daughter Meaghan wasn’t raped when its likely she was, hanging with five men who are all criminals.
Tina’s daughter was not raped in a legal sense. She agreed to be there and to have sex with all those men at that time.
Also those who are crying ‘aha, gotcha!’ With his spelling mistake about the autopsy are being a bit disingenuous or are reaching. He’s probably looked at the report and recognized a word he’s seen a hundred times and assumed the unique spelling on the report was an error and he’s mistakenly tried to correct it, or it’s autocorrect.
Yes. The wording on the autopsy report that I wrote about was given to me by a 3rd party. This 3rd party simply gave me a few paragraphs describing what was on the report. I simply copied the wording verbatim from this person’s information. I don’t know medical terminology so I had no idea that those words were misspelled.
I didn’t read it as he was accusing LM of the crime. in his theory, LM was part of the prank plot gone wrong.
This person is named Logan Maxwell. No, I am not accusing him of this crime and he is not involved. Also LM was not involved in a secondary plot by three young men to terrorize a girl into getting an abortion. Those men were Mr. P, Mr. J, and Mr. B.
Is Logan Maxwell the Mr M in his blog? The 20 year old kid.
No, Mr. M is a man who was 20 years old at the time. He is related to Nate Miller, the officer who supposedly killed himself in December 2020. He impregnated one of the girl victims several weeks before the murders, possibly at a bonfire party. He and his friends were pressuring her to get an abortion. She was refusing to do so. This is the prominent backstory and possible motive for the murders. We get into trouble for suggesting that this girl was not virginal and especially that she had sex with an adult man.
About the first charge, you are wrong, and it’s normal behavior for a teenage girl to have sex with boys and even men anyway. About the latter, but I would urge naysayers to check out this girl victim’s social media accounts which were full of adult men on her friends list. All of those men were on that girl’s friends list because she added them. We don’t know how old those men were. But where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
This POS you’re referring to been kicked off so many sites I can’t count for plagiarism and harassment. My FB was PRIVATE.
It’s not my fault that the world is full of morons. I didn’t set it up that way. It’s true that people like to ban me from their sites. That’s their problem, not mine because I’m not doing anything wrong.
However, I have never been banned from any site due to plagiarism, nor have I been banned for harassment, nor do I engage in harassment. This female is a turbot with Borderline Personality Disorder claims I “stalked” her because I looked at her very public Facebook profile and mentioned a person in her photos section.
That sent her through the roof. This spiny dogfish even filed a complaint against me for “stalking” with the FBI. The FBI knows me so I doubt if they will investigate. Her Facebook was public or was at least public to her friends, and she may have added me. Anyway, it was fully accessible to me without any hacking, which I don’t know how to do anyway.
Omg in his one post he asked if there was a word or a crime for having sex with someone who was being sex trafficked.
Sadly, men have sex with women who are being trafficked all the time. They probably don’t even know what’s going on with the woman. The person at fault in sex trafficker is the pimp or trafficker themselves. The men who patronize the prostitutes are not at fault. I guess their crime is “having sex with a prostitute.” Is that even against the law? How many men ever go down on a crime like that? Link me to an article about a man arrested for this fake crime.
…and no legitimate or reputable LEO would give this hack any legitimate or reputable information…
They don’t have to give me any information. Our LE sources communicate with group members, not me. Some of my members obtained access to people in LE. These LE leak to my members. My members then communicate to me what the source said. I don’t talk to any cops, nor do I wish to.
It’s actually one of the many unpopular rumors produced by Robert Lindsay. Supposedly there was a sheet or something with R U UP painted on it, displayed somewhere at the scene. Lol, along with the Teddy bears and dolls.
We never said there was a sheet with R U UP written on it at the scene. We reported that a physicist’s interpretation of crime scene photos (which are indeed real photos from the crime scene) of the blown up helicopter photos. He thought it was possibly arranged in sticks or logs at the scene.
A sheet was indeed at the scene, but that refers to something else. Of course there were dolls at the scene. We have that from three different LE sources now including leak directly from someone inside the investigation itself who leaked it to one of our members!
The giant plush bear can be clearly seen on the blown up photos by the physicist. My graphics woman added some filters and whatnot to bring out the contrast better. The photo was not altered in any way.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but that sure looks like a gigantic bear to me. Other than that, the presence of that bear is still a rumor. However, one of the search party ladies we interviewed told us that “there was an object at the scene that was so large that BG could not have had it with him that day.” That could indeed refer to that giant bear, which actually looks like the Valentine’s Day bears they sell in the stores. Keep in mind that we obtained interviews with two separate search party ladies. We are the only Delphi sleuthing group that obtained interviews with search party members.
…and the thing about a K carved into trees or flesh.
No letters were carved into either girl’s flesh, thank God. There either is no K at the scene or there is and it’s not important. The latest rumor is that there were “runes” carved into a tree near the crime scene. Those are popular with White Supremacists. This may be one of the non-secular items found at the scene.
Robert Lindsay’s blog (don’t bother) referenced a knife and a giant teddy bear, a bottle of Clorox, and a bunch of other weird nonsense. This was based on a closeup photo of the crime scene taken from the news chopper on the afternoon of 2/14. The photo is in the right place but there was no dimensional scale, so objects are misinterpreted. Libby would have to be 20’ tall for that to be correct.
The giant bear was addressed above.
The toilet bowl cleaner being used to clean up the crime scene came to us from a police source.
The knife is clearly visible in our crime scene photo, which shows a knife in a girl victim’s hand which appears to be shoved into a tree next to her. Furthermore, that photo lines up perfectly with testimony from both search party ladies about a knife in a girl’s hand stuck into her shoulder or into a tree next to her. We think it’s in the tree. A bottle of toilet bowl cleaner at the scene was referenced by one of our police sources. The physicist said he saw it in his photos, but I never saw it.
We do not agree with the interpretation above about the scale of the photographs. Further, these “fake” photos line up perfectly with search party lady testimony.
he started the knife story and somehow the location changed 3 or 4 times to shoulder then stomach then…
We never said a knife was left embedded in a girl’s stomach, thank God. And we didn’t really change the location of the knife. In fact, we never referenced a knife left behind at the scene until our search party lady interviews mentioned one. At first we were not sure if the knife was in a girl’s shoulder or in a tree in back of her because the search party ladies were not sure. We now think it is stuck into a tree her head is resting on.
It was RL who put this out there and at some point also suggested there was something similar found near the Evansdale murders as well.
No, we heard about the knife in the girl’s hand from the search party ladies. Then we saw the crime scene photo that lined up with testimony perfectly. We still did not know if the knife was in a girl’s shoulder or in a tree until we heard that there is a rumor of a knife in a tree at the Evansdale crime scene too.
One of our police sources told us that the police believe the cases may be linked. After I heard that, I decided the knife was probably in the tree. And yes, that would connect the two cases. One of our police sources told us, “There were odd objects left at the crime scene in both cases,” and this is one reason they think the cases may be connected.
The conclusion was there was a knife stuck in a tree or log near the bodies and one of the girls’ hand had been manipulated to look like she had stuck it in the tree.
This is correct. The knife was placed in the girl’s hand postmortem and then shoved into the tree, making her appear to be stabbing a tree with the knife in her hand.
“Robert Lindsay” is actually two college friends whose “creation” has been successfully sued by a Delphi family for calling the POIs I know that Robert Lindsay (not a real person btw) was and guess what? Reported it.
I don’t comment on my identity, real or otherwise.
This is from Xanaxarita, another woman with Borderline Personality Disorder. She also has many benign uterine tumors which effect her behavior adversely. I, Robert Lindsay, have never been sued by anyone. In particular, I have never been sued by any Delphi family member for calling a family member a POI, and I don’t usually name suspects anyway. Which family member successfully sued (and what does that mean?) and when? I’d like to look up the documents. Good luck looking it up because there are no case documents for that lawsuit.
I just typed into Google Mr X Delphi murders, hope this helps. It’s interesting. A woman is claiming her ex is the person responsible for Evansdale and Delphi.
There is no such woman. A woman claimed her ex was the Evansdale killer, but that’s not been proven. As a matter of fact, I know her very well. No woman claimed her ex was both killers.
Yes I’ve heard about him, there is a Mr X he’s a truck driver and makes trips to Delphi regularly.
The Mr. X we discuss is a very local resident of the area. He is not a truck driver. He does not need to make regular trips to Delphi because he lives right around there.
Lindsay’s obsessed with Mr. X.
Yeah. Because he’s the main suspect? Do you know how many times the police have told us this guy is the main suspect? Based on that, I hope I’m obsessed with him! You all just wait and see. You will all end up with egg on your faces.
You’d be surprised. A lot of bullshit rumors start with the likes of Lindsay and even Greeno. Faked police radio transcripts, puppies, teddy bears, knives made of ice, midgets, mini submarines, zip wires, moles, welders, carpet fitters, white dodge darts.
I cannot speak for Mr. Greeno.
The plush bear story has been addressed. The white Dodge Dart was a car that I earlier thought was involved, but that was a gigantic red herring false trail that we followed. I did not report any of the other rumors.
But the idea that there were dolls all over the place or whatever is kinda silly. Nothing like that appears in the crime scene chopper footage.
The chopper footage is far too far away to reveal if there were dolls at the crime scene.
How does Mr. X theory accommodate Young Sketch, and how does Mr. X theory explain why it wasn’t released when they had it in 2017? I know Robert Lindsay suggests catfishing or something like that but I don’t agree that catfishing explains why the sketch wasn’t released until a change in direction in 2019.
The Mr. X theory does not explain the young sketch. The Young BG sketch is of the catfish boy used to lure the girls to the bridge. In that case, catfishing does indeed explain the release of that sketch later on.
Ryan Van Slooten and partner Corey Ahlm, together aka Robert Lindsay, are adept at grabbing sensational details from historical cases, movie plots, and news events, and applying them to their “rumor” machine. Libby being pregnant, something vulgar about tree branches, ritualistic crime scenes
A girl being pregnant, dolls at the crime scene, and the girls being sexually penetrated with foreign objects were all reported to us directly from the police. About whether I am one person or two people or not a person at all or whether I live in Minnesota or California, I normally refuse to comment on such speculations. I suppose you should make up your own mind about that.
The pregnancy rumor was local before it belonged to RL. I also believe there is something to the rumors of sticks and branches. It’s just a rumor. But it’s a rumor I have heard from multiple places over 4 years. I also have family in White and Cass counties and there are local rumors of a similar nature. They are all rumors, but when the same one keeps popping up, I think it’s worthy of discussion.
We didn’t start it. Correct, I first heard that rumor a week or two after the crime from a 55 year old woman. The story about the girls being sexually penetrated with sticks and branches came to us from another one of our police sources, a detective. And apparently the sticks and branches story that has apparently been around for four years and is even a local rumor in the area of the crime.
A story about a girl being impaled with a branch was an early rumor stemming from a local young man who somehow had crime scene photos. He posted these photos for several hours but then took them down. The story is that the photos showed a girl impaled with a tree branch. We are not sure if that rumor is true as our other sources have not corroborated it.
He was correct about the abduction time and the video length though. But everything else is just -_o. He claims he has access to some document that is official and signed saying they are looking for a gun that went off during the crime, blood soaked clothing, and videos of the crime taking place. He also said something about BG sending a video of the murder to Abby’s phone but Abby didn’t have a phone so who the hell knows.
We certainly were correct about the abduction time and the audio length and we released that a year before it came out in the media. I might as well confess. We obtained a copy of a search warrant. Not Ron Logan’s but someone else’s. We had a search warrant on this case a good year and a half before anyone else did when Ron’s search warrant got leaked. So we did have access to confidential documents like I have always claimed.
Yes, a gun was used in the crime and a shot was fired at the crime scene. We even know the model of the gun they are looking for. Indeed they are looking for clothing soaked in blood because the blow to one of the girls was so severe that the killer would have been covered in blood. We definitely believe that the killer videotaped his crime. We now think that the photos or videos were sent to Libby’s phone several hours after the crime, not Abby’s.
At first the story was that they were sent to Abby’s phone and the story was that Abby had a phone that she hid from her mother. But Abby never had a phone. She had an Ipad, which is pretty large, almost like a very small computer screen. She didn’t have it with her that day. Once we ruled out Abby’s phone, the only place the video could have been sent was to Libby’s phone, which she obviously had with her.
What about Lindsay’s statement that JP (I assume that’s who Mr. Z is) had access to KAK’s devices? If Anthony Shots deliberately arranged a meet up to murder Libby and KAK wasn’t the one using the Anthony Shots profile to do that, then JP accessing his devices at some point and potentially stealing or changing his passwords is a huge bit of info, something I’m surprised he pretty much glossed over in that blog post.
Exactly. That is just what we are looking into right now, whether Mr. Z, as Kegan’s computer and phone tech, could have accessed KK’s devices to get his login and passwords and even to conduct a man-in-the-middle attack to cover his tracks in the crime and frame KK to boot. We know that Kegan’s computer had a mysterious dongle put on it after he gave it to Mr. Z for repairs. It simply came back with a dongle. KK never questioned it and forgot about it. However, that dongle could have been used by Mr. Z to hijack Kegan’s computer via a man-in-the-middle attack. R
Recall that there are two voices talking in the anthony_shots material. One is clearly Kegan, but another is absolutely not. They were able to tell by the different style of writing. Sometimes the other person would log on, and Kegan would seem to be booted off his profile. This is what happens in a man-in-the-middle attack. If you are logged in somewhere, you will keep getting logged off mysteriously. That’s the mans-in-the-middle butting in and kicking you off.
I don’t believe the same person leaking the case info as Leigh is tied to RL.
I know who Leigh Kerr is, and I have spoken to him before. I know he is real and his back story matches up well. He and I do not have a good relationship right now.
There is a zero percent chance there was any gunfire or gunshots at the scene. Did not occur. Anyone espousing that as inside information is absolutely not in touch with anyone in LE and knows nothing about LE incident protocol.
From an official case document we obtained, we inferred that a gun was discharged at the scene. We know this because police are looking for a particular gun to do ballistics tests on it, a Sig Sauer 229 in fact, an older gun from 1991 that is popular with various LE departments. If they are looking for a gun to do ballistics tests, then they must have a cartridge from the gun, and it must have been found at the crime scene. We don’t have any more information about this gun discharge.
I don’t believe there was gunfire, either. I could see someone dropping a shell (I don’t know guns but I just mean an unused bullet), or the rumor that a gun was heard being cocked is where this came from. Guns were also on the search warrant for Maxwell so perhaps one being used as a threat but not fired in the abduction is possible.
If they only found an unused bullet, they would not be looking for a gun to do ballistics tests on. BG’s gun can be clearly seen in his right hand jacket pocket. The story about the gun being cocked comes from family members who listened to police playing a tape of the crime. They said that after you hear, “Down the hill,” there is the sound of a gun cocking.
Guns or any other weapons are standard language on any SW’s granted by the court for any criminal matter but definitely a violent homicide.
Indeed, but if they were looking for a specific model, then a gun was definitely discharged at the scene.
Basically he was correct in saying the abduction happened at 2:13 and that the video was 43 seconds long or whatever. Those were stated in a few other places as well and no one knew for sure if it was correct.
People keep saying this but I had never heard either of these times mentioned before I wrote them up in my post, nor had any of my many members. And we have the busiest ears on this case of anyone. I’m doubtful that these ideas were floating around before we reported them.
Lindsay purchased a photo of Libby in her casket from Julie Melvin and then distributed it on the Internet.
Indeed, such a photo exists and was taken by Julie’s cousin at the funeral. The photo had been floating around a while when I asked about it. Somehow or other I obtained a copy. I forget who I got it from. I certainly didn’t buy one. Yes, I did distribute it to my private group, but that’s just a private group. It’s not the Internet. It’s like you invite a bunch of people over to your house and you show them the photo. I think I told them not to put it up on the Web.
If you do a web search on this photo, you won’t find it, so it’s not like it’s floating all over the Net. If it’s on the Net at all, it’s very hard to find. As this case goes on over the years, this photo and even worse ones may well turn up on the web. That’s the nature of famous homicides. I was certainly not the first person to obtain this photo, and I did not put it up on the Internet. Many people have seen this photo, and they were not shown it by me.
Whoever took the photos did so with the intent of selling them. That makes them even more disgusting than RL. IMO. Edit: And anyone who goes to RL to see the pics is disgusting.
I certainly never paid a nickel for such a photo. You cannot see a photo of Libby in her casket by going to my website. There is no such photo on the public portion of my site.
I think the family debunked it, was not Libby.
The family never debunked the funeral photo and said it was not her. In fact, this family is said to hate me because they blame me for the circulation of this photo, but it’s been around since soon after the funeral, and I only obtained it later on. Further, lots of people have seen or have copies of that photo. It was released by me, but only to a very private, paid-only group with instructions not to post it on the Net.
But what was Leigh Kerr’s motive? Not sure. Most of the so-called special info they received was already circulating rumor from early on. Some of the most graphic details came from Robert Lindsay aka Ryan Van Slooten and Corey Ahlm, not trustworthy sources.
I never met Leigh Kerr before he posted. LK obtained his information from official case documents run off by his wife at her work. On her deathbed she asked that they be released. If some of LK’s information had already been revealed by us, it means that we are onto these facts about the case before LK was. It also means we were right about those facts because everything stated as fact by LK was true.
How he hasn’t been sued and found guilty of defamation is beyond me. Hopefully when the killer is arrested and the man whose life he ruined is proven innocent Lindsay will be publicly outed and humiliated. He deserves to be punished for what he’s done.
We never mentioned one person by name as being suspected of committing this crime. I did have one man in mind for a long time, but he turned out to be innocent. His name and details were only discussed on a private paid-only server for an exclusive audience. That would be like a bunch of people getting together behind closed doors and saying something bad about someone. It’s not actionable for defamation.
Further, this charming man discussed here posted many videos in which all but came out and admitted to being the killer of these girls, so maybe you can excuse our suspicion. He turned out to be just one more false confessor. He’s a felon who has shot people with guns and beat his wife’s head into a hard floor. His children had to be taken away and put into “horse therapy” for abused children because of all the trauma they suffered from being in such a violent household. He has done years in state prison and is a member of the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang. Excuse me if I don’t feel real sorry for him.
I’m surprised he didn’t get a knock on the door from law enforcement after that day.
In fact, I was interviewed as one of the hundreds of suspects in this crime. However, I was 2,000 miles away when those girls were killed. If you don’t believe me, ask the FBI because that’s what they told a friend of mine.
Cops are a lot smarter than my enemies, that’s why. The Delphi detectives I worked with on this case were very nice to me as a matter of fact. I guess they figured out I’m harmless.
I’ve been talking about this a lot on here with regard to shitlibs and the absolutely disastrous Western Left.
Keep in mind that most of the Western Anglosphere Left opposed every single Communist government that ever as except the USSR until 1927! That’s because most of them are Twats, I mean Trots! The Western Anglosphere Left has always been Trotskyist and to some extent Maoist. It has been worst of all in the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, and the UK.
There is also a Maoist tendency in the Anglosphere Left that is pretty significant. Of course most existing Communist governments are no good because they’re not called China.
Nothing’s good enough for either of these types. Of course they hate North Korea, but they also hate Cuba and China for not being real Communists. The Chinese are supposedly not even Communists. Instead, they are just capitalists. The war in Ukraine is seen as capitalist imperialists (!) versus capitalist imperialists (!), and they don’t think they should take sides. This mirror’s Trotsky’s disgusting neutral stance on WW2 where he said that both sides were just capitalists, so he was sitting it out. I’m not sure he deserved an icepick for that though.
The Left in the West has also been very nutty – anti-men, anti-White (especially), pro-gay, pro-tranny – the whole nine yards. Which is weird because they are typical puritanical Commies who want to ban prostitution and porn. Then how can they be pro-gay when gay men are the sleaziest group of humans on Earth? And trannies are also completely twisted, perverted, and sleazed out. Excuse me for trying to make their contradictions add up here.
Communists in most of the rest of the world with a few exceptions do not hate men or Whites, and most don’t talk much about gays or especially trannies. Those things are not seen as important because of course they’re not important. Class isn’t the main thing; it’s the only thing! Yeah, I’m a class reductionist.
In the 1960’s, the US Left openly hated Whites and called for out and out White extinction. Recall Weatherman Bernardine Dohrn’s speech praising Manson and white extinction. They have gotten hooked on racism and the Blacks to the extent that they even see White workers as the enemies. J. Sakai’s book, “Settlers” (1980) makes it clear that White workers are the enemy. This book is now considered canon in most of the US Left.
By seeing class warfare in the US exclusively through the lens of racial troubles between Whites and Blacks, they missed the boat. Further, most of them idiotically got on board with Black and Hispanic nationalism and have long supported Black and Hispanic homelands in the South and the West respectively. So they’re racial separatists too just like the White nationalists. Except I guess they are good the kind.
However, outside the Anglosphere, the Western Left has not been bad.
The Left in Ireland has been excellent.
The Left in Portugal and Spain is good but in Portugal they have no power. The Left in Spain recently gained a lot of popularity with Podemos. There is also a significant Maoist party in Galicia in Spain.
The French and Italian Left did well with Eurocommunism, in which they actually held power in many cities and did a bang-up job too, especially in Northern Italy. Unfortunately, in Italy we also see the spectre of the ultra-SJW Left who wants to import the whole world into Italy in a Maoist party. But I’m not sure how big they are.
Unfortunately, Eurocommunism appears played out and the French working class in the banlieus who voted Communist are mostly voting National Front (Marine LePen’s party) nowadays! The Socialist Party under Melanchon has been very good and has even been restrictionist on immigration! The Danish Socialist Party went in a similar direction. And I wonder how many people who voted Communist in Italy voted for this fascist woman?
The German Left in Die Linke has been good. There are Maoists in Germany and many of them are quite militant, staging riots and fighting Nazis in the streets every year. It’s heavily associated with anarchism and the squatter movement. I don’t mind them. The German Green Party has been disastrous. They’re not even on the Left anymore. They are rapacious pro-NATO super-imperialists. But hey, they support recycling! So let’s all vote for them! Don’t mind that they are going to blow up the world fighting Russia!
There’s also Maoism in Sweden where a lot of the Shining Path supporters ended up. There is also a Maoist party in Norway. None of these groups have much power. Other than that, there’s not much of a Left in Scandinavia.
The Left in Greece has been very good with Syriza, however, they had to completely sell out to EU neoliberalism, so they ended up being basically useless. The moral to the story is that revolutions must be complete, that is, they must make a complete break with the past as the Sandinistas and Bolivarians did. As long as you are still wedded to imperialist structures, there’s only so much room to maneuver.
There is not much of any Left to speak of in the Balkans, but I don’t understand the politics there much.
The Left there was probably wiped out by the spread of ultranationalist fascism that spread through the area in the 90’s. These fascists still seem to be power in most of these countries at least in terms of language planning. Tudjman in Croatia was an out and out fascist, and Milosevic the former Communist of the Socialist Party also went full fascist. There was a strong fascist movement in Macedonia. Serbia is pro-Russia but those are more Serbian nationalists than Left types. Plus they have a nasty history. I know nothing of the Left in Albania.
In Eastern Europe, the Left is great but it barely exists and in most countries, it’s outlawed.
Lukashenko in Belarus is doing great. He is regularly elected with 80
There’s no Left to speak of in any of these places.
The Left in the democracy called Ukraine has been made illegal and all Left parties are now banned. A number of Left legislators were murdered and there were attempts to kill others. During this war, Left politicians and activists have continued to be rounded up, arrested, beaten, tortured, and even murdered. Most of the Left seems to have fled the country or gone to ground. Three cheers for democracy.
The Left is illegal in the Baltic states and possibly in Poland too. I think it’s also illegal in Slovakia. At any rate, the Left is very weak in all of these countries to the extent that it even exists at all. It’s very weak in Czechia though they have a long tradition of “Catholic Communism” believe it or not. It must be quite weak in Hungary as Orban is a bit of a fascist, let’s face facts here, folks. There’s also an out and out ethnonationalist fascist Right in Hungary that got 16
There doesn’t seem to be much of a Left in Romania or Bulgaria. The Communists in those places were some of the stupidest Commies of all and that left a bad taste in people’s mouths.
Pantheist: Is the feminism the Jews favorite weapon to destroy the west?
I don’t really believe in those Jewish conspiracies that say the Jews use these Identity Politics movements to destroy the West.
Some Jewish women started 2nd Wave feminism because Jews are “natural revolutionaries,” and Jews in the Diaspora grow up with a rebellious, angry spirit, raised to believe that they are better than the Gentiles and that the Gentiles hate them. This makes Jewish children come to resent Gentile society and wish to rebel against it.
But a lot of these were just women conscious of the disadvantages and discrimination women faced at the time and possibly still do. They were an oppressed group who wanted to be liberated. Yes, some of the early Second Wave feminists were Jewish, but the First Wave Suffragette Feminists were Gentiles! A lot of these 2nd wavers were radical Leftie types who were barely even Jewish. This was not one of those self-consciously Jewish movements like neoconservatism. They were women first and Jews second. But a lot of the Second Wave leaders were Gentiles too. And almost all 2nd Wave feminists were Gentile women.
Jews don’t like societies with traditional family-based values because these tend to rise up and attack Jews from time to time. They think that if they can break down some of these conservative bonds make Gentile societies nationalistic, then it will prevent discrimination against Jews.
So say if Jews are Ruritanians, then they would want to break Ruritanian society down to there the men, women, different races, gays, transsexuals, etc. were that identity first and Ruritanians second. So they would want Ruritanian men to split from men to some extent and pursue their primary identity as their gender rather than putting it in the backseat by identifying as Ruritanian first and their gender second as nationalists do. That’s why nationalists don’t like Identity movements – to some extent they tend to loosen the bonds that forms the nation. It gets hard to create a nationalistic state when many groups don’t have bonds with each other and are instead pursuing separate identities.
Like so many things they did, Jewish behavior here is based on self-interest. As I said, many Jewish feminists (except Dworkin and Abzug) were not self-consciously Jewish and were not operating based on a tribal mission. Even Dworkin was a woman and a lesbian first and a Jew second. Judith Butler, another Second Wave Jew, has pretty much left the Jews, turned hard on Israel, and even supports Hamas!
3rd Wave leaders don’t seem to be particularly Jewish at all. They’re mostly Gentiles and quite a few are non-Whites, especially Blacks and Hispanics. See bell hooks. I’ve been on radfem websites and while some of the radfems were Jewish, the vast majority were not, and the Jewish ones never talked about being Jewish. They were on the Left and so assimilated that they had almost left the Jews, sort of like Marx, Stanley Kubrik, the two brothers in the band Sparks – Russell and Ron Mael, Lenin, and Trotsky. Asked if he were Jewish, Trotsky said he didn’t identify as Jewish and instead described his ethnicity as “working class.” Frankly, a lot of the early Bolsheviks were just like this and they attacked synagogues as much as they attacked churches.
An antisemite is someone who Jews hate.
– Sam Francis
I suppose that’s true to some extent, but let’s face it, a lot of people called antisemites are not exactly real fond of Jewish people. Nor would I say that they are good for the Jews either.
Of course I’m critical-Semitic. I don’t consider myself an anti-Semite unless it means somehow Jews hate – if Jews even hate me, that is. There are only a few of them who do. One is an anarchist named Alexander Reid-Ross on a Jewish tribal mission to attack a lot of the Left and accuse them of being Brown-Red fascist-Communist (3rd Positionist). In other words, these are socialists and communists who are also basically fascists.
We had a Jewish commenter here for a while who was a good friend. Another Jewish blogger invited me out to drink wine with him. They were both Jewish Lefties. And my Jewish ex-girlfriend used to read some of my articles. She was a secular Jew and not one to go around accusing everyone of being an antisemite. She even read some articles of mine that some thought were antisemitic and said they were not. She insisted through the whole relationship that I was not an antisemite and on the contrary, I was a Gentile wannabe-Jew.
Not a lot of people have called me anti-Semite and most who did were Gentiles. I get called anti-Black racist, homophobe, and sexist a lot more. None of those things are true. Anyway, most calling me anti-Black racist were non-Blacks. As you know, we had an antiracist Black woman on this site for many years. The only woman who have called me sexist and misogynist are hardline feminists, often radfems.
One Jewish Israeli on FSTD said, “Hey, look, I’m on the Left and I hate to call this guy an antisemite, but frankly, that’s what he is.” I had written on how Jews love to be victims (they do). We even had some pro-Israel Jews and even Israeli Jews on here for a while back in the day. One was named andyboy. Most of the other commenters hated him. But even they didn’t call me antisemite much. I also got thrown off of Daily Kos by libtards for “extreme antisemitism” for posting that (((US involvement in Syria))) had Jewish roots.
Anyway, I wish people would call me antisemite more because even though I’m not, sadly, it’s a badge of honor in a lot of places these days. I’d love to get on one of those ADL antisemite lists. That would be really hot.
A previous post about Alexander Reid-Ross described him as an anarchist waging a war on much of the Left to call them Brown-Red, or communists who are also fascists (3rd Positionists). He also told me in an ambush interview that the Alt Left was an antisemitic movement. That’s not something I’ve heard much, but I almost wish people would say it more because it’s practically an honor to be called an antisemite in our Philosemitic Era.
It’s also part of an anarchist war on communists, who they call Stalinists and Statists. But in Reid-Ross’ case it has tribal components as he also attacks Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran for being brown-red and hence the enemies of antifascist anarchists. I’m not sure how well his campaign is working even in anarchist circles because he’s widely hated on the Left. In fact, the latest charge is that he’s basically a fed infiltrator. I think there is something to this. Reid-Ross sees those groups and their allies as the enemies of the Jewish people, hence he’s calling them fascists to get antifa to attack them.
To some extent it’s occurring without him as some antifa hate Syria and Iran as “fascists.” Anarchists are part of the color revolution those CIA-Zionist rioters are trying to stage against revolutionary Iran while a lot of communists are with Iran, though many Iranian communists are still angry at the regime.
I was involved with an older Iranian woman like that for a while. Her comrades had smuggled her out of Iran on the back of a donkey in the desert in the middle of the night in 1979 after Khomeini started killing communists. Communists and the Islamists who took power were previously part of a revolutionary coalition perhaps doomed to failure that took down the Shah.
A few anarchists called me Statist, Stalinist, and tankie back in the day. It’s true that I am absolutely a tankie, 100
However, a lot of insurrectionay anarchists are aligning themselves with Left revolutionary or communist movements like the FARC, ELN, PFLP, PKK, the armed Papuan groups. Some have been criticized for aligning with “armed Stalinists” but these anarchists say that these groups are basically our people. So there’s a communist-anarchist alliance going on to some extent.
This is particularly noticeable in Eastern Syria where a Kurdish anarchist group has taken power and is fighting against Turkish fascism. They’re also trying to break with Assad, but Kurds mostly hate Turks and they say that although Syria didn’t treat them all that well, it still treated them far better than Iraq, Turkey, or Iran. Anyway this armed Syrian PKK group has a number of communists fighting in it, including Turkish armed communist groups who fight right alongside the anarchists.
Also both communists and anarchists have a strong anti-fascist mindset so there’s a commonality there. Ukrainian antifascists have all been arrested, beaten, tortured, or murdered. There are none left. They’re all either in jail, dead, or in Russia where they sought refuge. The fact that antifascists were persecuted by fascist Ukraine and sought refuge in Russia indicates that for me Russia is not a fascist country.
More early punk rock, I think once again out of the LA scene. I was pretty deep into that scene from 1978-1985. I met a lot of the big bands and famous people.
Really nice early Social D song, I think out of 1979. Their first songs were released on singles.
“Making Believe” by George Jones, country singer. For some reason, he was very popular with early LA punks. Social Distortion was an Orange County band. I saw them for the first time in Summer 1992 somewhere in northern Orange County. I think it was some sort of “ballroom,” weird place for a concert. But it was a huge venue.
There was this hot little punk chick all dressed in black standing next to me for most of the show staring at me with that zombie, dead-eyed stare. Of course, being an idiot, I blew it with her. There’s a procedure for picking up women at concerts.
Here they are at CBGB’s in New York in 1992, the same year this song came out.
This version has a very mean edge, which I suppose is appropriate for this “getting back at the mean bitch who fucked me over and bringing her back under my control” song. Speaking of which, I’m not sure if this ever happens. Maybe it does, but it hasn’t to me. But it’s a nice fantasy to get back at all the bitches who fucked you over all these decades.
What you have to do in a case like that is just look at her, smile with a very cocky, assholey, extremely confident and super-aggressive look on your face.
Put into your head, “I am King of the World! No woman can turn me down!” Then just put your arm around her side and yank her towards you. And yank her pretty hard too. They like that. Then give a great big huge smile like it’s all a big joke. But it’s a harmless smile, like you’re not going to hurt her, like there’s a secret between you and her.
I’m not sure if this has ever failed with me, but perhaps it has a few times. I just don’t recall them. On the other hand, in my youth when I was doing this, I was supposedly very handsome. People were always gushing with stunned stares over my looks. So perhaps I was a goodlooking guy? Anyway, if you’re a sub-7, I’m not sure it’s going to work. I’m not sure it will work with Normies with average looks or particularly with homely men who are not attractive. I have a feeling it might flop. But those guys are never going to get those dead stares and have women grinding their hips against them at concerts anyway, so perhaps it’s a moot question.
I have no idea how to run Game for men with average looks (which is just fine – after all, most of us are average) or for men who are homely or unattractive (which in a lot of cases is fine too if they were born this way). These guys ought to get together with men on their Looks level and see what they kind of options they have. My experiences only apply to guys who are 7+ because that’s been my experiences. And believe me, Chad does something and the women swoon and flirt, and an unattractive man does the exact same damned thing and gets called creep and gets the cops called on him. The world’s not fair.
One thing! Unless you are getting those very strong signals like that, I would say do not do this! I think that’s where most of this Metoo is coming from. These guys just can’t read a woman. If she doesn’t green-light me, I simply don’t proceed. Of course I get called creep anyway even when I’m not the slightest bit interested in the women at all because they still think I’m flirtatious even when I’m not.
Also I may have a naturally seductive manner now from practicing Inner Game for decades. I’m afraid it’s just gone native by now and there’s nothing I can do about it. I get women accusing me of coming onto them or flirting with them or acting seductive, and I was doing no such thing!
I had written her off as a no-go – that she didn’t want to go out with me. When I write them off like that, I don’t flirt with or come onto them or hit on or flirt with them in any way. The vast majority of the women I meet, I write them off as no-go’s that don’t want to go out with me. Then I just stop pursuing things in that direction.
Friendship is still ok, but a lot of women still mistake, “Hey I just want to be friends with you” as “I want to fuck you.” They’re not as good at reading people as they think. They’re too paranoid. They always think we’re trying to fuck them even when we’re not. Calm down, ladies! We’re not that horny. And don’t flatter yourselves!
A lot of you are so unattractive that I have no interest in you at all. Curiously, these are the uglies who seem to keep thinking that I’m hitting on them. I’m thinking, “This chick is so ugly I feel like beating her with an ugly stick just because” and “I would fuck you with my worst enemy’s dick,” and she’s thinking, “Ew this creepy guy is trying to fuck me!” Gets old, ladies.
People mistaken my natural manner for flirtation. Hey baby! You’ll know when I’m flirting with you, ok?
But I always do it with that assholey mindset. One woman described the look to me as, “You know what? I see your face and you’re so damned arrogant that I just want to walk up to you and slap your face! Then I think, ‘Hey, I like that’.”
A better description would be super-cocky but still friendly. There’s no need to be a dick. People don’t mind cocky men as long as they are nice guys, friendly, and not assholes. In fact, it’s rather appealing and your confidence starts to spread to other men who engage with you.
I think you are bringing it out of them or they are grabbing some of your energy for themselves. The attitude is, “I’m great, but so are you.” After all, if you’re really great, it’s obvious to anyone and you don’t have to go around proving it all the time. You can be nicest guy around. High self-esteem and arrogance and looking down on others need not follow. If you’re not worried about your position, there’s no reason to put others down. Arrogant men are insecure.
She’ll start kissing you really hard, most of the time. She might break away after a while, but she’s going to lose control when you put your arm around her and when you kiss her for sure. I suppose it’s possible that she might not like you grabbing her around the waist and pulling her into your grasp, but I’m not sure if I’ve ever encountered that.
I suppose she might smile and break away in a giggly and bashful voice and say, “Calm down,” or something. I guess with a lot of men they might get a bad reaction but if you only go for the ones with the blank, dead stares or who are literally grinding their bodies into you (that used to happen to me at concerts a lot too), she’ll pretty much like it.
From then on, you just have to keep her with you and make sure she doesn’t take off. Get to know her, name, where she lives, phone number, what she’s doing after the show, on and on. If you do it right, you can have sex with her that very night, or whatever sort of sexual thing she has in mind. With women, it’s all about losing control. They literally lose control over themselves and their body starts screaming at them to have sex or else. It’s not something you can stop with your prefrontal cortex or your superego.
Once you get them to lose control, their animal sexual nature just takes over and they’re ravenous and insatiable. She gets to use the excuse of, “I was out of control.” When women get really horny they often go into another element, call it cumdrunk or subspace. The next morning they often remember only bits and pieces of what happened. I had a 23 year old woman tell me recently that sometimes she gets so horny in sex that she doesn’t even know her own name anymore.
If you asked her, she wouldn’t be able to tell you. I was with this 18 year old girl once, one of the horniest women I’ve ever been with (!) and she kept calling out these other guys’ names all night. There were 3-4 other guys she was having sex with. I kept correcting her, “Hey. I’m not Craig. I’m Bob.” “Oh yeah, that’s right. You’re Bob.”
She’s also the only women I’ve ever been with who kept asking for more fingers in her pussy. One was fine, but then it was, “Two fingers! Two fingers!” Well, ok. But then it went to, “Three fingers! Three fingers!” Just how flexible is that little hole anyway? Well it accommodates a baby so I guess it can really stretch out. I’m not sure if we went to four fingers. At that point, it’s almost a fist. There are women who want you to shove your fist into their pussies. I met one recently, 29 year old. I’m not sure if I’m into it. It’s sort of creepy.
There is an explanation for this. When women get really turned on, their brains become flooded with very high levels of oxytocin. This gives them the “out of control, in another world, altered state of consciousness, cum-drunk, subspace mindset. And yes, they will remember only bits and pieces the next morning because all that oxytocin makes them almost literally delirious out of their minds.