On the deplorable, foul, abominable, and morally decrepit Reddit group Libby and Abby, the following criticism has been leveled at me:
Lindsay says it’s perfectly fine for grown adults to have sex with 13 and 14 year old girls.
This is an old accusation of course, and it’s almost never been true.
What is the truth?
In the US and in most of the world, I do not think that most adults should have sex with 13 year old girls. On the other hand, all minors have a right to have sex in the sense that it should not be illegal for minors to have sex with each other. For instance, it should be legal for 13 year old girls to have sex with 13-17 year old boys. This is the case in much of world, including places like Scotland. Of course, actual sex crimes are excluded.
I think most sex between minors, even very young minors, goes over to childhood sex play and should not be prosecuted. In some cases, teenage boys are having sex with young girls in the family. I do not agree with molesting the teenage boys in these cases. These cases should be referred to social services.
Social services will get involved and work with the family to make sure the boy gets the message that he is not to engage in this behavior anymore. If the boy does not stop having sex with his young sister, he may have to be removed to a foster home. This is a serious solution but I think we have to think about the well-being of the young girl here and she needs to be protected from this sort of behavior on behalf of her brother.
I would not mind if it was legal for 18 year old boys to have sex with 13 year old girls. That would not bother me at all. However, after age 18, I’m not against making it illegal for adults to have sex with 13 year old girls. We just can’t make it legal for most adults to have sex with 13 year old girls. Almost no modern society allows such things.
However, there are Amerindian societies in the Amazon where the men start having sex with girls as young as 12-14 years old. One group is called the Candoshi. Some of these men have been arrested by the Brazilian government, but thankfully a new law went into effect that allows the men of such tribes to have sex with and marry girls that young. I support this law 100%, and I support all laws that allow tribal societies to do such things. Similar behavior is documented in the Yanonamo and in fact, in rural Mexican villages, most girls are married by age 13-14, often to older men. I’m ok with this because it’s part of their culture.
I’m not sure it’s a good idea for men to have sex with girls that young, and if they get pregnant, it can be a serious problem. The vaginas of girls this age are too small to carry a baby, and in quite a few cases, they get torn up inside by pregnancy. Any pregnant 13-14 year old girl should probably get an abortion. It’s just too dangerous to carry a child to term at this age. By age 15 on, it is not physically dangerous in this sense to carry a baby to term. Well, at least you won’t get torn up inside by doing so.
In almost all of Europe, it is legal for any adult to have sex with girls from age 14-15. In fact, much of Europe sets the AOC at 14. Of course in those countries, it’s perfectly fine for any adult to have sex with 14-15 year old girls. Curiously, it doesn’t happen that much. These countries don’t have huge problems with mass numbers of adults having sex with 14-15 year old girls. It’s just not a problem. Probably most girls that age are not interested in sex with an older adult, moral panics about the sexuality of teenage girls aside.
In much of the US, it is perfectly legal for 16 or 17 year old girls to have sex with any adult of any age. Some states set it at 16 and others set it at 17. Of course I have no problem with adults having sex with girls of these ages in these states.
On the other hand, in the US, 13-15 year old girls are completely illegal for any adult. I’m perfectly ok with 14-15 year old girls being illegal in these cases. However, it doesn’t bother me one bit if 18-23 year old men have sex with 14-17 year old girls. In fact, I think it should be legal because I don’t see anything wrong with it at all.
After age 23, sex with 14 and 15 year old girls gets a lot more iffy, and I’m totally ok with it being illegal. Although of course girls this age are not harmed by sex with adults, society really hates it and many people think it is bad, wrong, immoral, evil, disgusting, repulsive, etc. Perhaps it is, I have no idea. Most notions of right and wrong and not provable in a scientific sense. It is simply a matter of subjective opinion.
Society can have any attitude about this sort of thing that it wants to, and it’s ok for society to encode its attitude towards sex between adults and teenage minors in its laws and to make this illegal at various ages. Societies are entitled to their morals and their morally based laws.
Any man who has sex with a 13 year old girl after age 18 is an idiot. Society has extreme hatred for this and many laws erroneously call this Child Molestation. I don’t have sympathy for men going down on these laws. Men need to control themselves and not yield to sexual temptations, no matter how alluring they are.
I don’t have much sympathy for men going down on sex with 14 and 15 year old girls after age 23. As I said, it’s perfectly fine to make this illegal. Society despises this sort of thing in an extreme way, and you are risking incurring the wrath of society if you mess with those girls. They should have known better. They’re idiots.
On the other hand it doesn’t bother me one bit if adults of any age have sex with 16 and 17 year old girls. Bottom line is I think it should be legal in the whole country. Unfortunately, in a number of states either some or all girls in this range are illegal for older adults. I’d advise men to leave these girls alone and not break Statutory Rape laws. Society has gone seriously insane about this, and men need to control themselves and not break the law. They’ll give you years in prison for sex with a 16 year old girls. Even crazy or stupid laws should be obeyed if there are serious consequences for disobeying them.
The problem is that teenage girl minors are horny as Hell and a lot of them love men! And they try to seduce us men. They’ve been trying to seduce me sporadically off and on for most of my life. In fact, a 15 year old girl just propositioned me for sex very recently. I told her no and she started arguing with me and trying to talk me into it. Another 15 year old girl asked me to send her a dick pic. I didn’t do it and she acted very disappointed.
These girls look like women so they are quite tempting for men. Nevertheless, in many cases, if you mess with them, you can go to jail. This where the term jailbait comes from. The “bait” refers to the fact that these girls are very enticing to normal men, but the “jail” part means that if you give into these temptations, you can wind up at the Greybar Hotel.
Due to Pedo Panic, society is engrossed in a sex panic, a moral panic, and a mass hysteria over teenage girl minors having strong sex drives. Most of them masturbate, often on a regular basis, and many of them have sex, especially with people their age. Society hates this and is driven into a raging fury about these girls being sexual beings, as it freaks them out that these girls have adult sex drives.
Society is savagely enraged that these girls masturbate and have sex with other teenage minors. It positively infuriates them because society says these girls are little children, and little children have no sex drive. Society does not distinguish between a 17 year old girl and a 7 year old girl. They’re both little children!
Obviously, I’m completely opposed to a Victorian sex panic about the fact that teenage girls have a raging sex drive that they seek to fulfill. Nevertheless, in modern society, the sex fascists have the floor, and the fact is that the overwhelming majority of American adults are abject sex fascists of the worst sort. That’s just sad.
It’s pathetic, but Americans are pretty pathetic people. We always have been. We’ve been wildly Puritan about sex from day one, and there’s no sign it’s getting better. Pedo Panic about teenage girls having sex is only the latest manifestation of this particularly American insanity. In sexual mores, we aren’t progressing at all. We are going to dramatically backwards in terms of normal sex for normal people. In fact, we’ve been becoming wildly more Puritanical about sex for 30 years now with no end in sight. Every year it seems to get worse than the year before.
On the other hand, sexual weirdness and sexually abnormal people have somehow been elevated into modern secular creeds and gods. Tell me how it all makes sense because it doesn’t!
So the accusation is false. I do not think it is just fine for men to have sex with 13 and 14 year old girls in the US. Other than for the youngest men (either 18 or 18-23 depending on the age of the girl), I am completely opposed to men in the US having sex with girls that age. You can get yourself into a whole lot of trouble all over some young snatch. It’s not worth it!
Of course I support Romeo and Juliet laws that allow some college aged men to have sex with some high school girls. The law in Colorado is a good one. 17 year old girls are completely legal for any adult of any age as they should be. 16 year old girls can have sex with men up to age 22, that is all through college age. 15 year old girls can have sex with men up to age 21, that is most college men. I think 14 year old girls can have sex with men up to age 20, but I would have to check. This is an excellent model for a Romeo and Juliet law, and I’d love to see it implemented all over the US.
I’d love to see the age of consent lowered to 17 or even 16 in the US. If the whole country had an AOC of 16 and had reasonable Romeo and Juliet laws for high school girls and some young men, I’d be very happy. But I would be opposed to lowering the AOC to 13-15. I don’t think American society is ready for that at this time. Obviously Europeans are but we are not. Perhaps at some point in the future we will be more like Europeans and more open to lowering the AOC to 14-15, but honestly, I do not see that happening in my lifetime, which means about the next 20 years.
So, to sum up, what I advocate is something like this:
It should be legal to minors under age 13 to have sex with each other, as in many cases, it is just childhood sex play. This needs to be thrown over to the parents or social services as an absolute last resort.
- 13 year old girls can have sex with other male minors and possibly 18 year old men. After that it needs to be illegal, sorry.
- 14 year old girls can have sex with other male minors and men age 18-20. After that, unfortunately, they need to be made illegal. WE can’t have an AOC as low as 14, forget it. I’m a slight hypocrite here, but 40 years ago, this country wasn’t even like a different country compared to today. It was like another planet. I don’t even recognize this shitstorm of a society anymore. It’s like we’ve been taken over by diabolical alien pod people who somehow look at seem exactly like us just like in the movie, The Invasion of the Body Snatchers. But they’re not us. They’re actually evil aliens in disguise!
- 15 year old girls can have sex with other male minors and men aged 18-21.
- 16 year old girls should just be legal for all grown men, but that’s probably not realistic right now. Barring that, they can have sex with other male minors and men up to age 21.
- 17 year old girls should obviously be legal because by that age, it just looks like a flat out woman, period. But that’s probably not possible in this climate as many states will cling to 18, including this so-called Liberal Utopia of California which is actually a dystopian Feminist Dictatorship where the men are oppressed by the women with laws and rules put in by vicious feminist oppressors. We men are literally an oppressed class here. Anyway, barring that, 17 year old girls can have sex with other male minors and men aged 18-23. After that, they need to be made illegal. A lot of states with an AOC of 17 probably don’t want to go lower.
- Some variation on an AOC of 16 or 17 or at the very least Romeo and Juliet laws for girls age 13-17 and males aged up to six years older.
So there are my views, enemies. Read em and weep or eat them for breakfast or use them to line bird cages, whatever it is you do with my ideas.
Of course my enemies won’t read this and will continue to misrepresent my views and spread lies about me because that’s what they do. I’m not such a morally low, base, depraved, and wicked gutter person as my enemies are. I never make up destructive lies about anyone, even my worst enemies. I’m much too morally elevated and superior of a person to do such a thing.
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