Our resident hebephile, bumface, posted this link to Belle Delle, a child star. She is beautiful but she looks like a little girl. She is somewhere between 10 and 11. They put sexy women’s clothes on her and fancy women’s makeup and she starts looking a lot better to me because she’s starting to look like a woman! Take the makeup off and put little girl clothes on her and she’s a little girl again, and they don’t get a second glance from me.
Then I read interviews with her, and she’s completely idiotic and talks like a little child. She talks like, well, a little girl! Because that’s exactly what she is. That was the most massive turnoff to me. For female minors, the more it looks like a woman, the more I want to look at it. The more it looks and acts like a girl, the more of a turnoff it is.
I don’t even like 13 year old girls because they have what I call “little girl faces.” 14 year old girls still have them, and I have met 15 year old girls who yet retain them.
My Mom said it is “baby fat.”
Basically a child’s face is fatty, and as a woman grows up, the fatty baby face of a girl increasingly hardens and becomes sharper. I looked at photos of beautiful women from 30-40, and I couldn’t see much fat in their faces. However, they did have very sharp-edged, striking, bony faces. Their facial bones were very prominent, and they were also very attractive.
One time I went to this show about hawks and owls. They had live hawks and owls there and some bird guy handling them. There was this little girl ~8 years old in the front row. Some little girls are beautiful of course, but I don’t see them as beautiful in a sexual way, more like the way you notice a boy or a man is very handsome. It’s something you often don’t even think about it until you actually ask yourself the question.
But I could not stop looking at that damned 8 year old girl! Then I finally figured it out. Her damned Mom had put woman’s makeup on her! It was very well-done and she was already a pretty little girl, but that damned makeup made her look like a woman, and I couldn’t stop looking at her!
I started to get very uncomfortable as part of me was arguing with myself telling myself to stop looking at the little girl and the other part of me kept looking at her. War in my head!
I was not thinking of her in a sexual way because I can’t conceive of doing anything sexual with a little girl that age, and in fact this is the first time I considered the question, and I must have seen her 20 years ago.
But there was an attraction about her and she had a “pull” that sort of pulled you towards her.
I sometimes feel that with very handsome men. They have this “pull” about them that seems to almost suck you right into their orbit, and your body feels like it is getting pulled towards them. I stop and think and realize I am attracted to this guy, but then I think if I want to do anything sexual with him, and I don’t even want to touch him. The thought of kissing him really grosses me out.
I don’t really like this feeling of being pulled towards very handsome men as I’m straight and it sets off my internal homophobia, which is quite pronounced. As in, I am very uncomfortable with the idea of doing anything remotely like that. It makes me uncomfortable in the same way that little girl was making me uncomfortable. Your body’s being pulled in a direction you don’t want it to go in.
I think attractive people in general just have a sort of “pull” about them that just makes you want to look at them and in a lot of cases, to keep on looking at them. And at times, it feels like an actual physical force pulling you towards the person.
It shows how important looks are. Life is a beauty contest. They have done studies. Good-looking kids are given better grades, and homely and less attractive kids are marked down by teachers. It may not even be conscious.
Life’s not fair. It’s pretty much a shitshow, kids.
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I recall some tennis coach banged a really hot tennis playing student, and many didn’t blame the guy. True beauties just suck us in like a whirlpool.
I prefer a woman’s beauty, but I do get struck by the rare male with flawless facial features. Seeing a person’s race, beauty, etc. are skill sets. I pride myself on my good taste.
I recall some tennis coach banged a really hot tennis playing student, and many didn’t blame the guy.
No shit! It looks exactly like a woman, not even 1% different. How the Hell is it a mental disorder or pedophilia to be attracted to an object that looks like a grown woman?! It’s bullshit. It’s been shown in the lab that the male brain cannot differentiate between 15-17 year old girls and grown women. When shown nude photos of the girls and the women, the men react maximally to both groups. People think our limbic brains are rational. Hell no they’re not. They’re a product of caveman days at the very least and they are not subject to rational control.
Right, but you don’t want to do anything sexual with him, right? Do you want to kiss him or even touch him? I find the idea horrifying. I think we like some of those men because they are pretty or beautiful. Which means like a woman. A woman is beautiful. A man is handsome or even ruggedly handsome. Very handsome pretty men are often assumed to be homosexuals simply on the basis of the pretty boy face.
No way, even the most handsome man does nothing for me down below.
Of all the things you just put in that essay, the most true? Life ain’t fair. Hard to accept but true.
What about this girl? She’s 14 but looks a bit older.
Pedophile is a term the media uses to refer to men who are attracted and/or engage in sexual relations with females who are postpubescent yet under the age of 18. It is loosely thrown around because in an era with few sexual taboos remaining, pedophilia is, justifiably so, a very scary thing. In reality, pedophilia is a very rare mental defect in which a man is sexually interested in prepubescent children.
Ephebophilia is very, very normal. It the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19. This makes sense, doesn’t it? Women are very fertile at this age, and if a man is lucky enough to partner up with a female at such a young age and they want a large family, it can easily be done. Men therefore tend to be more sexually attracted to a woman aged 16 than the version of her at 38.
Pedophile is a term the media uses to refer to men who are attracted and/or engage in sexual relations with females who are postpubescent yet under the age of 18.
Yeah but this is absolutely ridiculous. You have to call entire tribes of men pedophiles! You have to call majorities of men in ages past all over the world pedophiles! And all normal, healthy men are attracted very strongly to 15-17 year old girls. According to this insane definition, the only men who are not pedophiles are gay men and dead men!
This teenage girl bullshit is simply a moral panic and a mass hysteria. It’s actually a sex panic. Many to most moral panics are sex panic because a lot of people are still extremely freaked out about sex. The fact that this moral panic seems most common in the Anglosphere tells me that Anglos are still horrendously Puritanical and repressed.
In reality, pedophilia is a very rare mental defect in which a man is sexually interested in prepubescent children.
Of course. I’m not even sure if they have even bothered to test this one out in the lab to see how common it is. All I know is that by age 15-16, all normal males react to 15/16-17 year old girls maximally, that is, to the same degree that they do towards adult women. So the only men who are not extremely aroused by 16-17 year old girls are gay men and dead men. I can think of few things more normal than having a strong attraction to 15-17 year old girls. It’s almost as normal as peeing out of the end of your dick.
I believe that studies have shown that males regard 23 year old women as the most attractive and females regard 28 year old men as the most attractive. Gay men regard 19-20 year old men as the most attractive. As we know gay men like em young, and women prefer older men more than men prefer older women.
I will say though that the primary attraction to 15-19 year old girls seems a bit odd. You mean to tell me that some guys are extremely turned on by females that age but have little to no interest in females over age 19. I acknowledge that they exist. J. D. Salinger seems to have been one. One of his wives said that when she turned 23, he lost all interest in her. I don’t understand this orientation. These guys prefer a Goddamned teenybopper over a grown, mature women?!
I’ve dated 18 and 19 year old girls quite a bit even recently somehow, and they can be shockingly immature. And they are very flaky. The two recent ones I dated were both suicidal to different degrees.
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Hebephilia is less common than ephebophilia, but far more so than pedophilia. It is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14. A lot of females in this age group can have kids, although they are less fertile than slightly older females. As you might expect, men are more attracted to these child-baring age women than stale menopausal 50 year old. I say that while agreeing with most age of consent laws in America.
Pedophiles, hebephiles, & ephebophiles. It’s hard to remember all these terms, isn’t it? It is like the computer geek expecting your average person to know what the term full stack java development is. So the media just sticks with the shocking pedophile term and uses it to label guys like Epstein, who was more of a pimp and just a nasty, immoral person, when it comes to girls and women. A true pedophile is Jerry Sandusky, who was far worse than Epstein, as he was homosexually raping pre-pubescent boys.
Is this you? Is this Shawn from the old days? WB my very good friend! It’s so nice to see you after all these years.
Hebephilia is less common than ephebophilia, but far more so than pedophilia. It is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14. A lot of females in this age group can have kids, although they are less fertile than slightly older females
Depending on how you define it, either 5% or 23% of men are hebephiles. 5% of men have a primary attraction to pubescent girls (!) and 18% of men are as attracted to pubescent girls as they are to grown women (!). So by this definition, we could say that 23% of men are hebephiles if by that we mean that they have a strong attraction to pubescent girls.
Jesus Christ those figures are wild.
On the other hand, either 3% or 21% (!) are pedophiles, depending on the definition. 3% of men have a are primarily attracted to little girls (!) and another 18% are as attracted to little girls as they are to older persons (!). Some people use these figures to say that 21% of men are “pedophilic.” If that means a very strong attraction to little girls, I would agree.
So the media just sticks with the shocking pedophile term and uses it to label guys like Epstein, who was more of a pimp and just a nasty, immoral person, when it comes to girls and women.
Epstein was actually a hebephile. I’ve read interviews with him where he said, “Once the braces come off, I lose interest.” Thing is that this is exactly what a hebephile would say. Braces come off at the latest around age 16, which is about when primary hebephiles start to lose interest. I’d actually love it if the stupid media would start using the term hebephile for guys like Epstein. Let the sex fascists have a new word to get hysterical over. And it will be good for sex antifascists like me because it will be harder for people to condemn hebephilia than it is to condemn pedophilia.
Yes, it is me. I’m happy you remember me. 🙂 I miss visiting and interacting with your site. As they say, time speeds up as you get older. I believe I first ran across your site after this article was posted, 15 years ago: The Skyrocketing Black IQ. https://www.amren.com/news/2007/10/the_skyrocketin/
Yes! I remember that article! Time flies! I wish some of the other old regulars would come back. We had a good gang here for a while.
I found it odd some of the boys Sandusky fucked kept in touch with him. He sort of pulled it off with some them, even if they are in the minority.