Alt Left: My Position on Gun Control

My position on gun control is below. By the way, I am similarly pretty extreme on abortion. I would allow it for any reason up to 23 weeks and for the life or health of the mother after that but not for the mental health of the mother, which is a runaround they are using a lot nowadays. Sorry, I’m not down with infanticide.

As you can see, I am just a typical Left Coast blue state liberal Democrat in a lot of ways. People keep calling me reactionary, conservative, and Republican, but I’m not like that at all.

In fact, I can’t stand conservatives and I despise conservative politics and even worldview. It’s just garbage. I’ve been this way for most of my adult life as I’ve spent most of my years as a man of the Left. I’m a really weird leftwinger, but I’m on the Left all right.

Or I’m a lot more on the Left than I am on the Right, and in some ways, I’m indistinguishable from those left coast liberals everyone loves to hate. That’s the milieu I grew up in after all. I grew up on the beach in Southern California. We’ve never been social conservatives down there. There was too much good pot and too many hot surfer chicks to strap yourself in like that. I grew up in an atmosphere of raw hedonism.

On the other hand, I am rather conservative on social issues like race and ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, and gender identity. But there has long been a faction of the Hard Left that hates Identity Politics. Go the WSWS Communist website run by Trots and you can see a good example of that. We think the “Woke Left” is the “Fake Left.”

Those are not leftwing issues, and woketards push that stuff while being rightwing on everything else. Notice all the capitalists falling all over themselves to embrace this woke toxin to divide the working class? That’s not an accident. Also, actually existing Communist countries were quite socially conservative. And none of those countries declared war on Whites, men, heterosexuals, or cisgender folks. This is all new BS coming out of the Western Left, which has never led one single successful revolution, by the way.

But I’m not a Republican or conservative type social conservative. I’m in between the woketards and the conservatards. A pox on both of them!

On gun control:

RL: I will allow the possession of a hunting rifle of course. Also you can keep either a hunting rifle or a shotgun in your home to protect yourself. But I would pretty much ban handguns. You can own a handgun for sport, but you would need to keep it locked up at a shooting range. You can only use it at the range – nowhere else.

Otherwise handguns would all be banned, and of course those semi-autos would be banned. Nobody needs those. Concealed carry would be banned unless you have a very good reason. Shopowners in high crime areas could have a handgun, but they would need to keep it locked at the store when they are not there. When they are at the store, they may have ready access to it.

Conversation continues here with CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS:

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: To this day, automobiles kill a bit more people than guns and that is with all the licensing and insurance requirements for cars.

RL: It doesn’t matter. Have you noticed how much gun violence we have in the US and how it is wildly more excessive than any similar countries with restrictive laws? The extreme level of gun violence in the US as compared to similar countries is 10

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: So there is no reason for this mass anti-gun hysteria I hear from liberals.

RL: No reason? The fact that our gun violence is in another universe compared to similar countries is outrageous and is a good reason for any extreme emotional reaction, including hysteria.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: They want to outright ban guns altogether.

RL: They don’t want to do that, and there’s zero support for it anyway. Let’s cross that bridge when we come to it. There’s no political will in the US for that, so no liberal is pushing it.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: If we treated guns with the same strict and expensive insurance requirements for cars you’d see a drastic drop in gun homicides.

RL: Well, let’s try it and see. We can’t even get this done, and it’s all because of the gun nuts and their slippery slope arguments.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: Mind you, two-thirds of gun fatalities are suicides, usually white males.

RL: Yep, and other countries have extremely low rates of that, too. And this is the easiest way to kill yourself.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: I don’t think there’s any real way to significantly lower that number other than outright gun ban.

RL: If you could only own a shotgun or hunting rifle in your home, a lot of people simply would not own a gun period. Handgun owners don’t like long guns. Most of the suicides are with handguns. If you got rid of those, there would be far fewer guns in the home. Also, people are less likely to use a long gun to commit suicide than a handgun.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: You can just as easily kill yourself with a hunting rifle as with a handgun.

RL: Actually, it is a bit more difficult, but given the option, a lot of people who would do it easily with a handgun would refuse to do it with a long gun.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: I don’t know what drives male suicide but I imagine it’s a lack of pussy…

RL: So these countries with low gun suicide rates are places where the men are drowning in pussy? Don’t think so.

CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: …and feeling less-than in this modern gynocracy of ours. So maybe ban feminism too lol.

RL: There are European countries in which Female Rule is far more entrenched than it is here. Look at Spain, the UK, and Sweden. Those places are catastrophic for men. Gun suicide rates are quite low. So it’s not caused by man-hating feminist harridans.

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28 thoughts on “Alt Left: My Position on Gun Control”

  1. “”RL: It doesn’t matter. Have you noticed how much gun violence we have in the US and how it is wildly more excessive than any similar countries with restrictive laws? The extreme level of gun violence in the US as compared to similar countries is 100% due to the fact that our country is flooded with guns and everyone gets to own one. There’s no other reason.””

    Yes I have. This is where I agree with liberals and disagree with conservatives. Banning guns would pretty much stop all gun violence outside of gang activity.

    “”CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: They want to outright ban guns altogether.

    RL: They don’t want to do that, and there’s zero support for it anyway. Let’s cross that bridge when we come to it. There’s no political will in the US for that, so no liberal is pushing it.””

    But they do. A gun-free America is a liberal wet dream. Of course there isn’t any political support for it. It would be unconstitutional. Now if Democrats pass gun laws at a state or local level, I can tolerate with that. I don’t want my kids to get massacred in school one day. What I have zero tolerance for are federal gun bans because we a 2nd Amendment, shitty as it may be, that we must respect as a federal republic.

    “”CLAVDIVS AMERICANVS: So there is no reason for this mass anti-gun hysteria I hear from liberals.

    RL: No reason? The fact that our gun violence is in another universe compared to similar countries is outrageous and is a good reason for any extreme emotional reaction, including hysteria.””

    But it is mass hysteria. Guns kill about 35k per year and 2/3rds are suicides. Would banning handguns lower suicides. Probably but suicidal people will still try to off themselves. I’m sure the success rate will be lower but it won’t be totally eliminated. The remaining 1/3rd of deaths are mostly black-on-black crime.

    Mass shootings account for a tiny sliver of gun homicides. Black gangs won’t stop killing each other because guns are illegal. It might make it harder for them to get guns, so you’ll defiantly see a drop there, but all in all, if we ban guns it won’t make a a huge difference.

    My biggest opposition to gun control is because of that pesky 2A. I don’t like it. It’s stupid as it’s written but it’s there. My second biggest opposition to gun control is that I do believe an armed populace does act as a deterrent to tyranny. How much I don’t know. But I don’t trust the government 100%.

    1. In a racially homogenous high-IQ country like Switzerland or Japan gun ownership is not necessary. You can’t have it both ways RL, that is, have a free society with a trustworthy government that is multi-ethnic and full of retards.

  2. “”RL: By the way, I am similarly pretty extreme on abortion. I would allow it for any reason up to 23 weeks and for the life or health of the mother after that but not for the mental health of the mother, which is a runaround they are using a lot nowadays. Sorry, I’m not down with infanticide.””

    Yes Robert. I completely agree with your second statement. Any abortion after 23 weeks is an absolutely travesty. And any abortion done before that just because is tantamount to murder in my book. I guess if you abort in the very early stages it’s not, like when its an embryo or a zygote. That little fucker isn’t a person in my book yet.

    I find the abortion debate like spinning a hamster wheel. How the Hell can you define when a fetus transitions form clump of cells to human?! You can’t unless you want to rely on religious superstition. The best when can go by is on human intuition.

    And my intuition tells me that decimating, literally decimating in the original sense of the word, a fetus who’s a few weeks away from become a viable human is murder. I don’t have a good metaphysical definition for personhood or any great philosophical argument. It just bothers me to my core. And because fucking annoying feminist cunts love to promote this cruel infanticide, it bothers me even more.

    If a woman has been raped I can agree to it assuming it’s done before a heartbeat. But once that lil’ guy has a beating heart, leave it alone unless it’s a threat to the mother’s health.

    1. A fetus is not a person. It’s not a human. It’s a potential human being. That’s all it is. On the other hand, I’m not one to jump up and down and cheerlead for abortion like it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread or act cavalier about it. At two months, that damn thing looks like a frog! I look at that and I think no way is that a human. To me, that’s nothing but a damned frog. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be cavalier about killing those frog-like potential humans.

      I’ve known women who had 4-7 abortions and they were completely unrepentant about it. I considered them murderers. You can’t keep getting abortions over and over. At some point, you’re abusing it and you’re a killer.

      1. “”RL: At two months, that damn thing looks like a frog! I look at that and I think no way is that a human. To me, that’s nothing but a damned frog.””

        But that’s an argument form emotion or intuition. You can’t prove it either way. God seems to have made the universe in such a way that absolute truth is unknowable, despite what the religious loony tunes like to claim. If I retort with how would you feel if your mother aborted you when you were just a damn frog in a belly that would just be an appeal to your emotions.

        “”RL: On the other hand, I wouldn’t be cavalier about killing those frog-like potential humans.””

        Of course not. Their potentiality alone in any sane decent society should make people think twice about doing it. I don’t think I would ever encourage a woman to have an abortion. But what is a great evil: being aborted by a shitty narcissistic mother or being born of her and have her neglect you and screw you up? How the hell should I know? Another instance where both courses of action simultaneously good and evil. Take that you absolute-truthist religious faggots!

        “”RL: I’ve known women who had 4-7 abortions, and they were completely unrepentant about it. I considered them murderers. You can’t keep getting abortions over and over. At some point, you’re abusing it, and you’re a killer.””

        Yup. That’s how I feel. I fucked some chick once who told me she had two abortions. They even made her listen to the beating heart of one of them and she did. No remorse. Or at least none that she’s willing to let surface. Skank ho, she was. I fucked her a few more times, then dumped her ho ass out of disgust. She kept hinting at wanting children with me. What?! After what you did cause you’re addicted to cock?! Fuck off. She’s a liberal feminist atheist. She still reaches out to me cause she wants to fuck.

        1. She still reaches out to me cause she wants to fuck.

          If you even have one woman in your life like that, consider yourself lucky. I don’t think most single men without a girlfriend could make a statement like that. Most guys are AFC’s. Hell, I’m an AFC myself these days. I’m practically walking Chick Repellent. They should bottle up my essence and sell it to misogynists who want to keep women away from them. If they’d give me a cut, I’d be game.

          1. Yeah but this cunt is kinda Borderline. I fear she wants an anchor baby. Ugh. But she’s very fuckable. But at a party I was just at, I think she had fucked four of the dudes there including me. She admitted to me that she fucked one of them for sure. Lol.

          2. You go to parties? I thought you were a conservative Catholic. So what do you do? Drink alcohol? Get high? Take drugs? Which ones?

          3. I don’t do drugs or any illegal but I drink often and enjoy tobacco here and there.

            Conservatives Catholics don’t mock absolute truth, they revel in it. I’m a cradle Catholic and recently started practicing again to give religion a try. But it’s all bs. During mass I read the hymnals looking for Latin text to see how much Latin grammar I still retain.

            The RCC is a fucking mess. The Pope is a hypocrite who just gave Nancy Pelosi Holy Communion in the Vatican. Holiest of holy fucks! LOLZ!

            https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/29/world/europe/pelosi-communion-vatican-pope.html

            The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I’ve read in its entirety, is pretty clear on the matter:

            “2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. “A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sentinae,” (CIC, can 1398) “by the very commission of the offense” (CIC, can 1314) and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law. (Cf. CIC, cann. 1323-1324)”

            To commit a grave offense with full knowledge and consent constitutes a “mortal sin”. Once in a state of mortal sin, a Catholic must go to confession and confess ALL known mortal sins prior to receiving communion lest they commit the even greater mortal sin of sacrilege. Furthermore, any priest who knowingly administers communion to a person in mortal sin also sins mortally.

            So the Pope knowingly allowed Pelosi to munch on a Jesus cracker thus he too has sinned mortally. So much for the Vicar of Christ. That faggot. Now nothing in Church law says a Pope can’t sin mortally, it only claims he’s can speak infallibly when make ex cathedra pronouncements. But still. Such inconsistency.

            My point is not that abortion is right or wrong or that Catholicism is true or false, it’s that the fucking CEO of Christ Inc. should at least pretend to be consistent in public. Whatever doubts I had about religions being false have been squashed by the RCC itself. Thanks Holy See. You just saved me a whole lot of donations to the Sunday collection!

            Btw I met a new priest at my parish recently and the first thing he said to me, in front of everyone, as how handsome I was. Lol. WTF. You could at least try to hide it. Well at least I won’t have to worry about getting him pregnant and having an abortion.

          4. Btw I met a new priest at my parish recently and the first thing he said to me, in front of everyone, as how handsome I was.

            Take it as a compliment. Not all men who say that are gay. People used to say that to me all the time, often with gaping mouths stunned at how handsome I was. Straight men said that to me a lot, including my own brothers.

            He could be gay. But a gay man will say that with a certain twinkle in his eye that the straight complimenter won’t have. Put simply a gay man will say that in the same way a woman might say that. He was also look at you and interact with you in the same way a woman does. That’s how I learned to pick up on gay men very easily. I’ve almost never been fooled. I can always spot them after a while. Might take me a few months, but I will get there. Gay men, you can run but you can’t hide! Bob’s Gaydar is comin to get you!

            Also the straight man might try to leaven it with humor to add a NO HOMO aspect to it.

            PS This is how you are getting laid for fee and avoiding the AFC dilemma that even effects me nowadays. However much looks and game I had as a younger man, I sure ain’t got shit now!

          5. I went to Catholic school, everyone considered the HS priest gay but he wasn’t a molester. I think molesters and rapists were more common earlier at that school. One was a pretty big one. I do not think grab-ass or full-on sodomy flies like it used to.

            I guess Swiss guardsmen often get unwanted advances by clergy. The center of the Church sounds like a real den of gay vipers. They should just let clergy get married.

            Mexicans I know are very gay-obsessed. They accuse other Hispanics like Puerto Ricans and even Spaniards of being gay. They sometimes say they have an ancestor that looks like me. I watch baseball and Hispanic baseball players often do the sign of cross and wear a Catholic pendant. Many groups are Catholic. It seems to seep out of Hispanic pores though. Every good hit is a blessing from Above. It’s inspiring when they’re doing good. Such a strong belief in divine intervention is contagious.

          6. Btw I met up with that chick last night. She was hesitant to make out and rejected my advances. She said she was still butthurt about how I dumped her. Alas, even skank hoes have feelings too. She’s kind of playing the hot and cold game. Getting laid has its challenges alright.

          7. After you dump a chick, you can’t really go back for more unless she comes to you. It’s always, “You dumped me, asshole. Why should I get back with you. Fuck you!”

            I throw it back to their court. On the other hand, if you dumped her, it’s over. It’s final. You can maybe take her back if she comes back begging, but otherwise I would just take it to friendship, if even that.

          8. *woman scorned*

            Oh, I know it alright. One of the most uncomfortable experiences for me is dumping a girl, especially if she’s a bit crazy. The banshee’s shrieks are piercing. I think what’s frightening is that I always know in the back of my mind that the banshee lies dormant underneath, like the Balrog of the Mines of Moria in Lord of the Rings. And the ONLY thing that can summon that demon is a break-up – not cheating, beating, insulting or berating – because all those things mean that you still find her at least worth using and thus you’re still with her.

          9. Yeah dumping a woman is not very pleasant. A lot of times they flip. I’ve had them take their fists and smash them through walls! I’ve had them threaten to kill me and then kill themselves. It’s pretty common that they threaten to commit suicide if you dump them. That’s actually positive because it means you are Alpha! Alpha as fuck!

            Women don’t take too kindly to getting dumped by Chad. Everyone thinks Chad has it made, but trust me, Chad has seen the bad side of women in spades. Sure, Chad lives in Pussy Heaven, but the purchases of Pussy Heaven are paid with the wages of Cunt Hell. You don’t have one without the other. In order to go to Pussy Heaven, you must first travel through the Valley of Cunt Hell. And there’s no river there with a boatman to help you across. It’s like walking through a field of razorblades!

          10. But I’m not very Alpha. I’m short, weird, and probably autistic. I’m just very handsome and I workout, and don’t buy into blue pill nonsense. I guess compared to today’s betafied men that makes me a de facto Chad lol. Oh how low have we fallen?

            You’re not really a chick repellent though. You’re just an old hippie. Ain’t your fault for one thing happeneth to them all. One day my balls will sag too.

          11. I’m just too old. Most women I see around, meet, and try to talk to simply give me the attitude that I’m too old. I’m not even sure if they’re turned off by me physically. At some point, most women in the world simply think you’re too old for them. It’ll happen to you one day and to all of us for that matter.

            I actually supposedly look damn good for my age. Lot of women have told me I’m in top ~10% of men my age lookswise. But Looks don’t get you shit at my age.

            Pretty much the only younger women offering to fuck me these days are trying to charge me either as sugar babies or as out and out prostitutes. And scammers. Lot of scammer bitches trying to steal money from me.

            There are a FEW young women (and girls!) who are into older men my age, but you have to go to special places to find them. There are special groups on Kik for chicks like that, and there are a lot of them in there. But in the open world of day to day life, I’m not sure if you will find a lot of them. It’s definitely a minority.

            But I’ve met underage jailbait teenage girls in those groups who tell me that they only want to fuck men over 50! With one it was illegal so she was counting down the days to age 16. Another couple of 15 year olds were just trying to fuck one anyway even though it was illegal. A 16 year old in the UK was already fucking men. And all of these girls preferred men over 50 years old! Those aren’t even women. Those are girls!

            And yes, there are women who are like that, especially ones in their 20’s. Quite a few around 20, 23, 27-29. Men over 50 only! And a few over 40, say around 40 years old. I think it’s kind of a kink or a fetish. I’ve also met a 32 year old and 47 year old woman who were insanely turned on by the idea that I was an “older man.” It drove them nuts.

            I met a 20 year old woman from the UK recently who told me I was too young! She preferred to fuck men in their 70’s! She was smoking hot too, with massive tits. I’m not sure if she paid for those tits or not, but those things were deadly weapons. Her current boyfriend was like 76 years old.

            There are a few pretty much regular, normal women who like guys my age. I met a 38 year old Chinese woman the other day. But she was basically rich and to her I was just some poor dog. She was mystified of how I even survived on my salary. She had a house in LA that rented for 10X my income every month! Must be nice!

            I can get women my own age, but even they are not that easy to get. A lot of them have just dropped out of men altogether and don’t want a man. The women my age I see around town usually act like the last thing in the world they want is a man.

            At my age sex is basically over! Get as much as you can when you are young is all I can say!

          12. Chads are pretty much men who are 7-10 on a Looks scale. If you’re in that range, you’re a Chad, period. There are very goodlooking guys with zero game who seem like they can’t get laid with God’s help. Last town I lived in the best looking older guy in his 40’s never had a woman with him. I talked to him once and he told me he hadn’t had a date in years. But everyone thought he was weird.

          13. Alphas are one thing, Chads are another. A lot of Chads are not very Alpha and a lot of Alphas are not Chads. Alpha is more behavioral. Chad is just pure Looks.

          14. “”RL: Alpha is more behavioral. Chad is just pure Looks.””

            Good point.

            Thanks regarding the edit button.

      2. “”RL: At some point, you’re abusing it and you’re a killer.””

        Okay, but at what point? After 2 or 3? Or 4? Where do you draw the line. On which day does the fetus frog become a fully fledged person? Where exactly god damn it?! Where?

        The most common lie all humans tell to them selves is that there is absolute truth. Hell, it might even be necessary for human psychology to form civilized societies. But it’s a damnable lie nonetheless. And once a group of people convince themselves that they’ve got absolute truth written on some proverbial tables from fucking God Himself, they’ll use it to justify any atrocity.

        This is where I differ form most people, which makes me think I’m severely abnormal. Even self-proclaimed atheists act as if they have are privy to divine revelation. A woman’s right to choose is sacrosanct. Why, though?

        Men can trans into women! Oh yeah, then define gender in a non-contradictory way?

        They can’t answer these questions. No one can. They just draw their lines in the sand and claim providence is on their side.

        Faggots.

        1. Okay but at what point? After 2 or 3?

          Once you get over three, things are getting pretty damn sketchy. IUD’s have a very low rate of complications. Hundreds of millions of women all over the world are on hormonal birth control. A lot of them nowadays are on the “shot.” You get one and you’re good to go for 6 months to a year.

          On which day does the fetus frog become a fully fledged person?

          It’s a person when it can survive outside the womb. But even then it can be sacrificed for the life or health of the mother but not for any reason, including rape and incest. If you’re pregnant due to rape or incest and you want to abort, no problem. Just get it done nice and early.

          “You’re forcing these women who don’t want kids to carry them to term!”

          Yeah, so what?! You snooze, you lose. After 23 weeks, that kid is all yours. If you don’t want it, fine. Just carry it to term and drive to your nearest hospital. They have boxes outside at night or Hell, just walk inside with the baby with a freaked out look on your face and drop the baby at the receptionist’s table and run out the door to your car really fast and peel away. They don’t care if you drop off a baby. They just don’t want you killing the baby by throwing it in the trash. We have a drop-off option at our local hospital.

  3. There’s likely some Satanic connection. An alleged insider said they use it for child sacrifice. It was a high # of sacrifices, and the guy said they use abortion clinics.

    Fat Jewish women are sacrifice baby breeders. They say people can’t even tell these unholy hogs are pregnant. Jews have some odd connection to Satanism. A guest on an early Oprah episode touched on it. She said her family would appear like upstanding model citizens during the day, like most Jews I’ve met. Then they’d turn evil at night behind closed doors. Real image-conscious monsters.

    It’s not just Jews but there seems to be a disproportionate amount of them involved in this stuff. I read a thread by a Black kid that said he was adopted by a Jewish family, and they tortured him until he was scared, then drank his blood. Something to ponder when your Jewish neighbor needs to borrow a knife.

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