Repost: Alt Left: A Few Comments on Indians in India and the West

Repost from a few years ago. Still getting comments. Topical.

notpolitically: Hi Robert – Just curious what do you think you about Sikhs and Jains? Are they too fully Hinduized, and do they also have the f*cked up Indian mindset?

Where do you see India in the next 50-100 years?

Also, Indians are scared The West is catching onto the BS and closing the immigration doors (could not have happened sooner).

Also what do you think about US/Western Born Indian such as 2nd/3rd Generation Immigrants? I noticed this ABCD in South Asians generally. The Whole Subcontinent is f*cked beyond hope IMHO.

Sikhs are absolutely fully Hinduized and not just Hinduized, which is bad enough, but in addition to that, they are Indianized, which is the worst of all and is the source of the whole problem with these otherwise interesting people. By the way, my Sikh physician agrees with me.

Jains, I have no idea, but they are some of the most casteist Indians of all, so I don’t care if they save the lives of flies, bugs, and rats. They obviously care more about these vermin than their fellow men. I met a Jain man once who told me they didn’t take converts, and I would not be a good Jain anyway, so forget about converting. They seem pretty Hinduized and possibly Indianized themselves.

I do not know how I see India in 50-100 years. They completely lack introspection, and their ego defenses are so strong that I don’t see how they can change for the better. Humans with those attributes sure can’t. Why shouldn’t nations (conglomerations of humans) be the same?

The 2nd generation Punjabis seem very Westernized.

The American born Hindus are much worse. We have Gujaratis in my city, and they are much worse than the Punjabis. They strictly associate only with their own kind, and they are some of the most arrogantly and obviously casteist Indians I have ever met! I hate to say it but Gujaratis are just not very good people. They don’t assimilate very well here. Even if they were born here, they somehow brought India over here with them  nevertheless. Punjabis assimilate so much better.

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5 thoughts on “Repost: Alt Left: A Few Comments on Indians in India and the West”

  1. First of all, India was never country until the British brought all the kingdoms together. The subcontinent of India was under foreign influence for more about 500 years. The subcontinent was a collection of kingdoms. The Mughals who spoke Persian and are muslims controlled a large portion of India for about 340 years. But also at the same time the British East India Company was trading and subsequently slowly taking over India starting with the smaller non-Mughal kingdoms.. Today, India is still very diverse with many languages and ethnicities. It is very hard to keep India as a country when it has so many nations. The current political party in charge, the BJP, used Hindu hyper nationalism to unite all the Hindu speaking Indians and create boogeymen like China and Pakistan to get them rile up. It may seems to be the most logical path to take but it is only short term.

    I predict India as a country will fall apart into several pieces the next 50-100 years. India is unable to develop. Its human development index is slipping over the years. In 2019, India’s HDI ranked 131. One of the worse in the world. Despite all that hype about India and IT, it is still unable to get out of agricultural and resource extraction economy. Automation and AI are accelerating in a rapid pace. Countries that missed the manufacturing boat in the 90s and 2000s are going to see their economies stagnate. India is going to see the continuation of economic stagnation moving forward. With a predicted population growth, India’s GDP per capita and HDI will continue to decline.

    The decline of HDI will worsen when climate change cause food shortages in India. India is lucky to have 53% of it land arable and is one of the world largest food producer with a majority of them exported while local Indians have little to eat. With climate change, India’s food production will decrease exponentially and more Indians will starve. I don’t see how hyper nationalism can glue the country together when people are starving.

  2. Hello,

    Your blog is doing a very good job of exposing the problems that continue to plague Indian society (the caste system, dowry deaths, sati, etc).

    I want to know what you think of the Indian diaspora’s focus on maintaining “cultural purity.” Hindus living in India treat their religion as a pastime (and I would say rightly so). However, all of this changes when they leave India for a first world country. My parents would see to it that the family visit our local Hindu temple every week. I also observed that several Indian TV channels experienced an increase in religiously-oriented programming.

    If this doesn’t explain why the BJP is the current ruling government of India, then I don’t know what is.

  3. Historians are unclear about the exact time during which Rishabadeva, the founder of Jainism lived. However, several Jain doctrines look like reactions to teachings of the Vedas.

    The Jain doctrine of anekantavada (multiple differing viewpoints being simultaneously true) appears to have been formulated as a reaction to the Rig Veda, which describes conflicts between the Vishnu-worshipping Aryans and the Shiva-worshipping Dravidians. Allowing multiple viewpoints at the same time might have prevented people from claiming that their God was the one true God.

    1. There actually is some historical evidence to back up my hypothesis. In the 14th century the Hindu sage Madhvacharya wrote a treatise called Sarva-Darshana-Sangraha, an overview of the various schools of philosophy that were available in South India at the time. This shows notable Jain influence, and there is historical evidence of a large Jain population in South India.

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