PUA/Game: Pre-Flirting, Approaching, Flirting

Hari Seldon: So I have to ask, where do you meet these girls? How do you pick them up? You said you have a 98+% rejection rate. So you are actively approaching them? Do you openly proposition them, or indirectly?

Mostly meeting them on the Net these days. In Meatspace, it’s about zero. Literally nobody wants me. I go to porn blogs and Kik groups and meet women in there. Even young ones, too! In those places there are lots of young women who have an older man thing.

The Various Stars and Looks

This never happens to me much anymore, but if she stares at you or catches your eye every time you look at her or keeps looking at you off and on, it means something. It probably means you turn her on on some level. But nowadays I have young women who look at me off and on in a way that always meant she liked me in the past, and now I go talk to the Lookers and it turns out she hates me! So women who hate me are looking at me and staring at me now.

But this just started in the last few years. Before that, if she keeps looking at you, catches your eye every time, or especially if she stares at you, it means she likes you on some level. I think it means you turn her on.

The Robot Hypnotized Entranced Stare

If she goes into this stunned, shocked, robot, automaton stare when she sees you, especially the first time, it means you absolutely turn her on. Often the stare is mixed with hate and fear. That’s because women hate and fear the men they like. I’ve all sorts of theories on that.

She’s Acting Nervous

Another bad thing I’ve noticed lately is some young women act nervous around me. It’s usually when I’m approaching them pretty hard or escalating the flirting. She often asked for by stopping what she was doing with the message “Come talk to me.” Of she was just super-friendly and now you are taking it beyond super-friendly into the sexual flirting realm.

Lately, nervousness is a disaster. She’s uncomfortable with you on some level. Maybe you’re making her uncomfortable by escalating the flirting. Maybe she has mixed feelings about you. She acts like she wants you to talk, then you go over and talk to her and now that you are next to her, she gets scared.

I’m not sure what nervousness means around a younger man. Women don’t typically get nervous around men they like. You would think they would but they just don’t. Actually they get less nervous and more calm because she likes you and you are turning her on and charming her, and that is fun, exciting, and also very relaxing.

Just because you’re turning her on doesn’t necessarily mean she wants to go out with you! It doesn’t even necessarily mean she even wants to be friends.

Women Are Either Friends or Enemies. Know Your Female Enemies, Fear Them, and Leave Them Alone

At my age, I can’t really approach any woman directly anymore. If I try I just get the brushoff. I usually approach and say something, especially if they are behind a counter helping me or ringing me up. I’ll ask their name or something. Lately I get a hard brushoff right there. I just make a note of it and consider her an “enemy” because that’s basically what a young woman is if she brushes you off like that.

You need to stop bothering her and stop hitting her up with even basic orders. I was returning something in Walmart last night and I asked the clerk her name. We talked as bit more and I started to get the brushoff. I get the brushoff from almost all women these days. When you class her as an “enemy” it really keeps you away from her. When they do the hard brushoff, they don’t even want to be friends. If you ask for help, they won’t help you. They will act like you’re not there. When they get like that you need to stop interacting with her 100% unless she’s ringing you up or something.

Some People Just Like to Flirt, Don’t Read Too Much into It

Some of them flirt with me a bit, but I figured out that they don’t want to go out with me or even be friends. They just like to flirt with me. I’m supposedly still goodlooking for my age. A lot of women will flirt with a hot older man because he kind of turns her on. But it’s fake. She doesn’t want to go out with you and she doesn’t even want to be your friend.

Keep a Constantly Updated Database of All the Women You See Regularly so You Know Where You Stand with Them

I make mental notes of every woman I interact with regularly to figure out where I am with her. If she’s fat or homely, I don’t care, but if she’s cute or hot, I want to keep a scoreboard. Say she flirts with me when she first meets me. I go back and see if she keeps doing it. A lot of them will flirt with you the first time, and then they go cold. You have to figure out exactly where you are with every woman you interact with so you know exactly how to deal with her. Otherwise you will mess up act “creepy.” I hate being called creepy so I’m very cautious.

Never Proposition a Stranger of a Woman You Don’t Know Well. Only Proposition a Woman if You’re Pretty Sure She Wants to Fuck

You can never openly proposition any woman anywhere ever. Just don’t. Actually I don’t even proposition girlfriends. Sex is best unspoken. Just start doing things to her, or she will start doing things you to you. I learned a long time ago never to ask a woman if she wants to have sex, especially if you’ve never done it with her before. That will get her thinking, and that’s bad. The whole idea is to shut off her brain the hamster wheel stops spinning and she’s gone over into pure body reactions, as in let her body take over from her mind.

Flirting, Escalating, Etc.

Just sit back and throw out feelers to see how she responds. If she likes you, SHE will bring up sex pretty quickly, usually within the first 20 minutes. If she derails the conversation off into sex after 20 minutes or less, it means she likes you, and now you can start saying sex-type stuff. But even then you have to be careful. Just follow her lead. Read the conversation and see where it’s going the whole time. Note if what you say gets a good or bad response and then adjust on that basis.

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