Delphi Murders Update August 25, 2021

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This post once again will be limited to answering the endless false charges that are leveled at me. Since they’re all untrue, it is necessary to respond to them to set the record right.

I have a question. My enemies say I’m the worst person on Earth. Fine, maybe I am, maybe I’m not, who knows? But if I really am this diabolical monster that everyone says I am, why is it necessary to make up endless lies about me? If someone is evil, you just look at the facts of their lives, and their wickedness is right there in plain view. If all you have is made-up stuff about someone, I assume they’re not that bad.

Below, I am starting a new procedure where I don’t refer to the girls by name unless I have to. It will simply be “one girl was,” “there is a rumor that one girl was,” “a rumor says X was done to one girl,” etc. You can make your own minds which girl we might be talking about. We are doing this in order to be more sensitive to the memories of these girls and to their loved ones and people who care about them.

1. Modr2u on the LibbyandAbby subreddit has made a number of statements about the nature of my team.

Response: Over 230 people have paid to become members of our team over four years. The site was shut down by WordPress for violating their terms of service (the post was about feminists, not about Delphi or anything else). I was accused of inciting violence. I didn’t realize this violated the TOS, otherwise I wouldn’t have done it. I was not thrown off for “making up lies” or “lying about Delphi,” and anyway, WordPress wouldn’t care if I did. A lot of these people have dropped off or went away.

When the site went back up on my own server with a free speech host (it’s up for good now), I went back and emailed a lot of the old members and invited them back. A number came back but many others didn’t. There are not currently 230 members actively reading on the site. I have no idea how many members are currently active. Perhaps 30-50? No idea.

The site went to pay due to necessity. It was free for a while but we kept getting invaded by trolls, pests, haters, and worse, and everything we said got copied and broadcast all over the Internet. My users wanted privacy so we went to pay to keep the pests out.

Originally we went to $10.

But some trolls and enemies actually paid to join anyway, and they were a real problem.

Group members got very upset and demanded that the fee go to $20.

The request was made in order to protect their privacy.

We went to $20.

We haven’t had any problems with trolls or pests since. So say what you want about profiting, but the $20 entrance fee was demanded by my members. I hardly make any money off this anyway, so I don’t understand why anybody cares.

There is an accusation that we have a team of “super-sleuths” consisting of FBI acquaintances and former FBI, active duty LE, and professional private investigators. None of us have any FBI acquaintances, there are no former FBI agents on our team, and no one from the FBI has ever talked to us. We have never had any active duty LE or professional investigators as members. Yes, we have reported from “people close to the case” but that always comes from others, not us because we wouldn’t say it that way. Also we always report anything from “people close to the case” as unverified.

Instead of being made up of any of these people, we are nothing but citizen sleuths – amateurs – with the idea that there is power in numbers, as in “the wisdom of crowds.”

Almost all of us have no particular expertise in this sort of thing. At one point we had someone who worked in the prison system. We have a physician and a therapist. And right now, we have a retired homicide detective who worked 1,000 cases in his life. Of course, none of these people are paid. We do go on field expeditions, interview people, take photos, etc. We have gone on a few field expeditions to Delphi so far. Most of our best investigators are women, but I’m not sure what that means.

So far, a grand total of four members of the criminal justice system, including sheriff’s deputies and detectives, have talked to us. That’s all. Four LE officials in four years.

We have received testimony from two female search party members about the crime scene. They lined up very well although they had never spoken to each other and what they described lined up very well with crime scene photos. One of these women spoke to us through three different sources. All three reports from each source lined up very well, so her story stayed consistent.

We also have some official case documents. One of them is a search warrant for the Maxwell property. We’re not saying how we got a hold of it.

2. Modr2u said our Evansdale information has been made up out of whole cloth.

Response: All of the information below came to us from a law enforcement source close to the investigation (from now on referred to as LE Source A). These guys talk to each other.

Mr. X, who is LE’s main suspect in the Delphi Murders, is also suspected of killing the Evansdale girls in 2012. His roommate turned Mr. X in to police as a possible suspect in the Delphi Murders. He said that the voice was close, the clothing “looked familiar,” and the walk was “perfect.”

He also said he suspected Mr. X of committing the Evansdale murders because he and Mr. X had been living in that area in 2011-2012 when they were transferred over there as part of a job, possibly a packing plant job. He said Mr. X was living there at the time the girls went missing.

Mr. X had a white panel truck at that time. A truck of that description had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the girls disappeared. The suspect vehicle in the case was a white truck or a white van; however, it was only seen from the rear. If you view Mr. X’s panel truck from the rear, it resembles the suspect vehicle very closely.

Source for all the above information: LE Source A.

3. According Xanaxarita on the LibbyandAbby subreddit, I said a girl had a stake shoved into her body and was pregnant.

Response:

Pregnancy: There is a rumor that one girl was in the early stages of pregnancy, but we do not know which girl that is. This has been verified for us by JM who sourced it to a sheriff’s deputy in a nearby county. This rumor goes into the Verified category, with the proviso that the deputy may have been given false information.

One problem with the pregnancy theory is that we heard it a lot in the early days and then again a couple of years later via police from JM, but we haven’t heard much in a couple of years, though I heard it the other day from an excellent local Delphi sleuth. If a girl was truly pregnant, shouldn’t we still be hearing about it? This is what makes us a bit uncertain about this rumor even though it was verified to us by police.

Stake in a victim: There was an early rumor of a stake driven into one of the victims from above. We are not telling you which girl was referred to. The first report came from a local who somehow got a hold of “crime scene photos” and posted them to the Net for a few hours. He reported that the crime appeared to have Satanic or occult overtones and that the girls were posed.

He also said a stake had been rammed into a girl from above. I believe that others saw these photos that he posted. A couple of years later, we heard via JM, an excellent local sleuth, that a stake had been driven into one girl from above, just below her solar plexus.

The problem is we have heard nothing of this rumor since. We also have testimony from two search party members, and neither one mentioned a stake driven into a girl from above. Don’t you think they would have mentioned it? Had it already been removed from the girl’s body?

Would they remove it or would they leave it in for a while to preserve crime scene evidence? I’m sure they would have removed it when they went to remove the girl to the hearse. Hence this rumor has gone into the Unconfirmed, Dubious category.

4. Modr2u reported that I wrote on a Delphi post that “all women love me.”

Response: At my age, if only that were true! Actually, it’s never been true even in my salad days of youth. I said that most of the people I work with on this case are women, usually middle aged women. I get along very well with women and actually prefer their company to men. I know how to talk to and act around them, so this is an easy thing for me to do. You’re free to make whatever you want of that information. This is simply the way I run my life, and if it’s upsetting to you, too bad.

5. I said R U UP was written on the ground at the crime scene somehow, perhaps with branches.

Response: I never said that. A theoretical physicist (from now on the Physicist) did a video in which he revealed crime scene photos (which were indeed that), and he said those words were spelled out with sticks about the crime scene. I see what he could be referring to, but I’m not sure that anyone arranged sticks in that way. My opinion is he’s seeing things that aren’t there, so this rumor doesn’t come from me.

6. I said that dolls, a large plush bear, a sheet with a smiley face on it, an upside down cross, and a bottle of bleach were found at the scene.

Response: This is correct, but we have good sources for all of that.

A bottle of bleach:

  • You can see a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in BG’s left jeans pocket in the bridge video.
  • Two different female search party members told us an empty bottle of bleach was at the scene.
  • The physicist said he saw a bottle of bleach in the crime scene photos on his video, but I can’t see what he’s talking about.
  • LE Source A told us that an empty bottle of toilet bowl cleaner was found at the crime scene and this liquid had been sprayed all over the crime scene.

Sources: Four: BG photo on the bridge, two search party ladies, and an LE official, all match.

A large plush bear:

  • The physicist successfully isolated what looks to me like a large Valentine’s Day plush bear at the scene of the crime. I agree that that is exactly what it looks like. There are arguments that we are seeing things, but I doubt it.
  • One of the search party ladies, the first one to come to us (from now on SP Lady A) reported, “There was a large object at the scene, possibly a toy, that was so large that he could not possibly have had it with him on the bridge that day.”  We believe that statement is compatible with the photograph of the huge plush bear.

Sources: Two: SP Lady A and the Physicist’s video partially match.

Dolls:

  • Both search party women told us that there were dolls scattered all over the crime scene and there were also dolls hanging from trees.
  • LE Source A said there were many dolls scattered around the crime scene. “There were so many dolls it looked like someone had gone to the Goodwill and bought a bunch of dolls,” he told us.
  • A high ranking member of the investigation team said, “There was at least one doll at the crime scene.” He mentioned this to his friend at a party, and the friend talked to us.

Sources: Four: two LE officials, including a member of the investigative team, and both search party ladies, none of whom had met each other, all match.

A sheet with a smiley face on it:

  • SP Lady A reported that this was present. She told this to three separate sources.
  • The Physicist reported a sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene in his video, but I can’t make it out.

Source: One: SP Lady A.

An upside down cross:

  • SP Lady A told us there was an upside down cross at the crime scene. We don’t know what this means. How did she know it was upside down? Was it planted in the ground?

Source: One: SP Lady A.

A knife:

  • SP Lady A told us that one girl’s hand was wrapped around a knife, and the knife had been shoved either into her right shoulder or into the log next to her.
  • On the Physicist‘s video, one can clearly see a large knife stuck into either a girl’s right shoulder or the log next to her.

Sources: Two: the Physicist’s video and SP Lady A match.

R U UP? written in branches at the scene.

  • This is alleged by the Physicist in his video; however, I’m not sure that is real or if he is just seeing things.

Sources: None, unverified rumor with no supporting evidence.

7. Via Reddit, a criticism by Agent 847. I will give him credit at least for being a fair critic. He says that the Physicist‘s video is simply wrong. The objects are pareidolia and so-called girls’ bodies could not be the real bodies because they would have to be 20 feet tall. He also says that the “bodies” in the video are in the wrong place and should be 30-40 south of where they are located in the video.

A point on Robert Lindsay and his theoretical physicist’s photos:

I was very curious when I first saw those images, because they look like the real McCoy. But there’s no way to tell because it’s zoomed and cropped and altered from a larger pic or screen shot of unknown provenance. So I did some digging and found the physicist and watched them show their work.

Initially I found it compelling: it’s from the WRTV footage. It’s in roughly the right place. The bodies look consistent with some of the rumors about how they were found, etc. But he also sees a giant teddy bear, a t-shirt or tank top, and a bottle of bleach. A couple things bothered me:

One is the giant teddy bear. No. This is absurdly implausible, and causes all kinds of other things about the crime to not make sense. I see the same image he does, but I see something different that makes a whole lot more sense than a giant stuffed bear. Another thing that bothers me is the distance.

Several sources place the bodies roughly 50’-60’ from the water, in the center of the area marked by tape, among a dense group of trees. The position of the Lindsay/Physicist photo is deeper in the woods, closer to 90 or 100’ from the north bank.

But there’s a bigger problem: I was able to isolate the same image: but in context of the whole photo, they’re too big. My measurements aren’t exact, but the girls would need to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-18 feet tall to be what you’re seeing.

It’s a pareidolia. It’s just one that is eerie and uncanny as fuck because it’s in just about the right spot. But it’s not them.

The location of the bodies, which you can’t see in the helicopter footage (possibly because they’d been removed, are covered, or the level of detail just isn’t there) is @ 30-40’ to the South of the location Lindsay’s source uses, which happens to be exactly in the spot that all other sources acknowledge. In short: they’re too big and in the wrong spot.

Response: I don’t have the ability to take apart his critique about the “girls” being 17 feet tall in the video (hence it’s not them) or that the crime scene in the video is 40 feet north of the actual one. I’m not sure if the Physicist can answer that either. However, there are three reasons that I think his video is accurate. The Physicist reported, among other things:

  • Both girls were posed with their legs spread.
  • There was a large plush bear next to one of the girls, up to five feet tall.
  • To one of the girls’ right, there was a knife plunged into either a girl’s right shoulder or the log next to her.

No one had reported any of these things before.

Sometime later, we got a report from SP Lady A who described many things at the crime scene. This was followed up by a report from a second search party lady (hence SP Lady B) that matched the first lady’s report well. They reported, among other things:

  1. Both girls were posed with legs spread (Source: SP Ladies A and B).
  2. “There was a large object, possibly a toy, present that was so large that he could not possibly have had it with him on the bridge.” (Source: SP Lady A).
  3. One girl’s hand was wrapped around a knife, which was plunged into either a girl’s shoulder or the log next to her. (Source: SP Lady A).

As you can see, items 1 and 3 line up perfectly with the physicist’s video, and item 2 is a partial and possible match.

The thing is that neither SP Lady was aware of the Physicist‘s video, and the search party ladies had never met each other, so the physicist and the search party ladies all reported the same things independently. For this to have occurred by chance, the ladies and the physicist would have all had to make up the same lies or they would have all had to hallucinate the same things.

I do not believe that occurred. Because the SP Ladies’ testimony so perfectly matches what the Physicist described in his videos, we regard his videos as accurate. I don’t think quibbles about sizes of objects of locations of purported crime scenes are relevant in that case because the video has now been proven to be correct.

8. I am really two men named Ryan van Slooten and Cory Ahlm from Minnesota who met 10 years ago in college who together made up a fake person named Robert Lindsay who lives in California.

Response: No comment.

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9 thoughts on “Delphi Murders Update August 25, 2021”

  1. I’ll take the flack about #1, now #2, I don’t remember saying anything in regards to Evansdale.

    I honestly don’t find you quite as dangerous as Derek Godsey. At least you explain yourself and I respect that.

    1. Thanks, I appreciate it. I took out the scurrilous reference to you.

      I can’t respect Godsey’s project at all.

      If you want to keep acting civilized like you are now, you are welcome to comment here.

    2. Really? My present girlfriend in 64 years old. I love all women, 18-65. Under 18’s are off limits, sorry. You are right though. The only women who give me any attention at all these days are my age. With the younger ones, it’s pretty rare other than certain places like special “Younger Women for Older Men” chatrooms or some with a fetish on porn blogs or Twitter.

      A teenage girl? A woman? They’re all the same to me. They’re all women. The important distinction is not between female adults and female minors but between sexually mature (fully sexual) females, or women and teenage girls, and sexually immature (nonsexual) females, or little girls.

      I am just a typical teliophile. I am maximally attracted to mature females aged 15+. 81% of all men fall into this category. However, all men react to girls 11-14 at 88% of maximum, so it is normal for any man to be attracted to girls that age. And they react to little girls under 11 at 60% of max, so it’s even quite normal for any man to be significantly attracted to little girls.

      What can I say? We men are wired up weird. The only reason I talk about this crap is because I think it’s perfectly normal for any man to be attracted to teenage girls.

      Men have been having sex with teenage girls for almost our entire existence and there’s no record of any girl ever being harmed. In more primitive or backwards cultures, it continues to this day and the girls experience no harm.

      Also, I think it is insane the conflate relatively normal sex between men and teenage girls with clearly abnormal sex between men and little girl children. These little girls can in fact be harmed by being molested, though most get over it.

      Furthermore, it is not child molesting or pedophilia or any of that crap for a man to have sex with a teenage girl. It’s called statutory rape. Furthermore, many of those girls, even 13-17, love men and prefer men to boys. They go after the men and chase and seduce the men. Sometimes it’s the other way around but usually those girls go after us men. Now men have to be strong and turn them down but maybe not all men are strong.

      Society has decided that it is wrong for men to mess with girls from ages 13-15 and in some states from 16-17 too. A lot of people have strong opinions about this and they think it is wrong, bad, evil, despicable, horrible, etc.

      People have a right to those emotions. Hence society has decided that these girls need to be protected from men. There is also an idea that men are taking advantage of those girls when they have sex with them. So society has its reasons. These moral judgements have been codified into laws. Whether it’s normal behavior or not, you mess with those girls and you can go down real hard nowadays. So I advise all men to not mess with girls under the age of consent in their region.

      The American Psychiatric Association has issued an official statement that hebephilia as a sexual orientation is completely normal. However, acting on it is a crime and the men who act on these urges are simply criminals. But it’s not abnormal to think like this.

      All men of all ages love young women. My Mom is 88 years old and a total prude, but at least she has common sense and the “wisdom of ages.” She told me, as if it was centuries-old common sense, that “men (even older men) love young women.” She said it in a matter of fact way, with a shrug of her shoulders, as if this were a fact like the weather about which we could do nothing.

      She also said that the Romans had a saying:

      “A man can still bear a child when there is snow on the roof (when his hair is white and he is an older man), but a woman’s time is short.”

      One of my objections to this PC/SJW bullshit nowadays is that they are throwing out centuries of age-old common sense, the stuff your grandmother would have told as if it were simple fact about which no one could do anything. The SJW’s seem to be in a war against human nature, especially male human nature. They seem to trying to create “a new man” who is completely different from the males of our species for the last 200,000 years. I contend that social constructionism has its limits, and I also say, “Mother Nature bats last.” In fact, I am a believer in the Catholic idea of “Natural Law,” which is along the same lines.

      By the way, as a trad Catholic, why the vehemence? What ever happened to “love the sinner, hate the sin?” You are taking a most un-Catholic view of me. Also, you are accusing me of “thought crimes.” I believe that Catholic doctrine cares nothing about such things. Thoughts and acts are not the same thing!

      1. Mr. Lindsay, I know women 21-55 who are interested in older men. I think that you are being a little harsh on yourself. My husband is 16 yrs older than me. I think that it has to do with the woman, honestly. I think that it has to do a lot with the woman. Some women like guys that are still living at home with momma and being totally dependent on their Moms.

        Then you have women who appreciate an older guy. Me personally, I don’t get along with guys my age. I don’t have anything in common with them. I think that older men are more experienced and more intelligent than guys that are my age. Some women idk like to be more intelligent than the man. I’m shocked that you are 64. You look much younger. You must have good genes or something.

          1. Yes, I can still fuck most of the time LOL. Sometimes I think I need some of those purple pills LOL. Sure of course. I think about sex all the time, all day and all night, just like I always did. All I think about is women, tits, ass, pussy, and fucking and sucking with them. What else is there to think about?

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