Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?

As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene.

You All Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?

Not a stuffed animal left at the crime scene.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, “That’s a stuffed animal.” If any of you all think that’s not a stuffed animal and it’s really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. How could that not be a stuffed animal? Any theories?

And that’s not even the start of the weirdness. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. But get this. That stuffed animal is sitting right next to the body of poor Abby. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (5’4?) is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. In other words, that stuffed animal toy is over five feet tall! Ok, that’s so crazy that it’s almost impossible to believe it’s true. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces.

A Second Search Party Member Comes Forward

As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman.

The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony.

In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. We now have two separate SPM’s both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. At this point, this rumor seems like it’s proven at least to my satisfaction.

SPM2 also reported that “there were stuffed animals at the crime scene.” There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. Only that there were stuffed animals. Note that she pluralized the noun.

Stuffed animals not a stuffed animal.

In other words, it’s now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. How many more than one? We have no idea.

Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. These two SPM’s arrived at these conclusions independently. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. So we have three people who arrived at the conclusion independently that there was at least one stuffed animal left at the time. So that seems proven too. The two SPM’s both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene.

As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. That seems proven at this point.

Search Party Members Told by LE Not to Talk about What They Had Seen

The inevitable questions arise. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now.

But now we have a response to that rejoinder. The two SPM’s discussed above have both told us that LE told them not to tell anyone what they had seen at the crime scene. I’m not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPM’s.

I will write more later on. This is just the first draft of a post.

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29 thoughts on “Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene?”

  1. Regardless of whether or not members of the search party were told not to report what they saw at the crime scene, if it was as bizarre as it sounds, I don’t see how anyone could keep it to themselves. The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone.

    1. We now have two search party members who are backing up some of these bizarre allegations. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally.

      We also have it from two separate search party members independently that they were told to not tell anyone what they had seen.

      1. Think about it like this. You have a million people who come out and say “OMG THERE’S JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT.” But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, I’m sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasn’t there. Where are those people? I don’t see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who weren’t there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. That should at least tell us something.

        If these claims of the crime scene condition and “signatures” left behind by the killer are false, then I have to wonder what on earth the police found so bizarre. They try to walk it back in more recent interviews but you can see it on their face. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says “People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does.” They saw something horrendous that day.

  2. Who said there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? Also who said this crime was over quickly? LE did not say it was over by 3 pm-ish.

    1. Either LE or coroner: “It was all over by 3:30 PM.”

      You don’t think there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? What’s that a photo of above then?

  3. Also re searchers, it was not Mr. X that found the bodies, it was actually Jake Johns. His wife was with BP when the call came to Becky that the girls had been found. Mr. X was on the same team BUT was on the other side of the creek at the time, same for Erskin.

  4. As far as Mr. X being a POI, I disagree, as I also disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected.

    1. You disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected to what?

      You realize that we have a detective in Indiana who told us that Mr. X is LE’s main suspect in this case, right? And that he also told us that they suspect Mr. X in Evansdale too, right?

      1. About the stuffed animals hanging from the trees. If that’s the case, wouldn’t you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? On the Evansdale, Delphi case, who is the suspect? Mr. X? I’m almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? I find it pretty compelling that BP is connected to 6 murdered girls!?

        1. There were no stuffed animals in trees. There were dolls hanging from trees. That area was not searched until after dark on the 13th. And the girls may well have been moved and put there late at night. That’s one theory we are looking at.

          LE thinks BG did Evansdale and they think BG is Mr. X, correct.

        2. You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the “killzone” if not at night then at least when the lights came back on.

          However, realize firstly as vast as that wooded area was, RL’s property when you zoom out isn’t the most ideal place to hide a body, being so close to the cemetery. Yet somehow they didn’t come across the bodies until over half a day after the search party started. I’m not sure if the reason for this is because the search parties just mentally glossed over that particular location for more remote spots or because there’s something geographically strategic about that particular area that makes it less detectable.

          I keep seeing people say it was “a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees.” Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? Just a guess.

          Second thing to consider, From what I understand (per the Prosecutors podcast on the Delphi Murders from a few months ago, which isn’t entirely accurate but better than most) they called the official search party off at 11pm or midnight. Then they say they had planned to reopen it much earlier in the AM but that the fog on the 14th made it very difficult to see so they didn’t restart the search party until 9 AM. So if the search started technically in the dark on the 13th, the actual time they had when they could really see anything was from 9 AM to 12 PM on the 14th.

          To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place.

  5. Any mention from your sources on this Chadwell guy everyone on Reddit is losing their minds over being a suspect?

    1. No, but no way is this guy involved. Just forget it. Sadly these murderers and chomos are a dime a dozen. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!!

      Also a lot of what is being sad about this guy are just flat out straight up lies. His behavior and his videos are being looked over with a toothcomb and they’re getting it all wrong. They’re seeing evil in everything where there’s generally none.

  6. Thanks for all the investigative work and information you post. I am very curious to know what you think people are getting wrong as to Chadwell’s behavior and videos (both are which are undeniably creepy). Would you consider writing a post on him?

    To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. It seems wrong somehow that it could be this narcissistic doofus.

    However, here is my argument for him as the BG:

    – He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away.

    – Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, it’s clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short.

    – Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. He “tells off” women in passive aggressive hostile posts.

    – He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. He posts that while at a restaurant, he observed what he decided is a man touching his kids inappropriately. He boasts he’d like to beat the guy up even if it means incarceration. He himself is then arrested for trying to rape/kill a nine year old.

    This makes me think of the dolls and stuffed animal left at the scene. It’s like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a child’s toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever.

    – His voice sounds very like the phone recording, raspy.

    – He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. He does, as Carter warned, appear younger than he is.

    – He has been hiding in “plain sight,” posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. Makes me wonder if LE did look at him at one point.

    – He is a welder and the hat the BG is wearing looks like a welder’s cap.

    – His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. According to Leigh Kerr, the BG took locks of hair from the victims. Next to the drawing, for no apparent reason, is an unusual (to me) looking knife. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. “A rose will bloom, it then will fade. So does a youth, so does the fairest maid” – Romeo and Juliet (1968) . I doubt he’s seen that classic film, but girls as flowers is common imagery.

    – Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libby’s face with two bones and a skull framing it. It’s not his mother and it’s not the Exorcist girl, it’s Libby. The blunt nose and mouth/smile, as well as the shading. If he isn’t the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder.

    I theorize that after release from prison he was itinerant and carried a gun for protection. He wore layers because he was living largely outside. He was in the area because he liked rail bridges, had endless hours to wander, and perhaps was hoping for an opportunity to grab a young girl.

    OR he passed the girls and tried to speak to them and was rebuffed by Libby which made him angry, and he then began to stalk them. Either he went there to hunt or he was “set off” by their “rudeness” and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. As Carter said, “This is about power to you.”

    Anyway, hope you’ll do a post on him.

    1. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. He “tells off” women in passive-aggressive hostile posts.

      I haven’t seen this stuff. Can you show me?

    2. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. He “tells off” women in passive-aggressive hostile posts.

      I saw that. It’s nothing. He’s just an ordinary AFC. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. His complaint is typical of tens of millions of single men his age in the US today. Compared to most single men his age, I don’t think he has much animus towards young women at all.

      And on the other side of the fence, single women bitch a lot about us men too.

      He seemed quite toned down and purposely mellow in his critique of single women.

      See how people are reading too much into this guy? They’re seeing whatever they want to see in him.

      There’s nothing pathological about oversharing. Perhaps it’s a violation of social rules, but that’s not in the DSM yet. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here.

  7. Thanks for your response: appreciate that.

    I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. Example, “women think they got game, they don’t..” That sort of thing. I can see it from a teenager or maybe a n emotionally stunted 20+ guy, but this is a middle aged man! Am I expecting too much? I just can’t imagine my peers posting things like that. It’s very (as the kids say) “cringe.”

    1. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. What does he mean that they think they have Game but they don’t. I don’t even know what that means.

  8. Is there any chance the Police Officer NM was murdered and it was made to look like suicide? He certainly didn’t sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. He was pretty young and had a lot of children. It seems odd.

    1. Yes, that’s one thing I am not sure about. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, that’s for sure.

    2. oh so he died recently? Very interesting. I too wondered about foul play. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside?

          1. It’s from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. There’s a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it.

    3. This is from NM’s obit: he was a Crime Scene Technician. Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. Just a thought.

      1. Problem is that CSI cop NM was the one providing the alibi for Mr. X, so that theory doesn’t work.

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