Polar Bear: I thought the stab in the back was real. The British offered Jews Israel to turn on Germany and the scorpion stung the frog.
The British offered which Jews Israel if they turned on Germany? You mean the Balfour Declaration?
This is not correct.
Balfour had no effect on German Jews, most of whom disliked Zionism. You must realize that Zionism was unpopular among European Jews at that time and all through the 1920’s. As James Schipper notes in the comments, Zionism was not popular among West European Jews. However, it was popular among East European Jews, especially the less religious ones.
As James Schipper notes in the comments, the notion that the British gave the Jews Palestine if they would get the Americans into the war does not appear to be correct. The US entered WW1 in April 1917. The Balfour Declaration was signed in November 1917. Unless someone makes a good argument otherwise, the timelines don’t line up.
However, I have seen this theory written up on the Internet – that the British promised the Jews Palestine and US Jews said, “If you give us Palestine, we will get the Americans into the war.” And then the Jews used money and media power to brainwash Americans into joining the war. As Schipper notes, this may well not be true as the timelines don’t add up.
In lieu of verification of this theory, this would have to be listed as a possibly antisemitic argument accusing US Jews of tricking the US into war against Germany in WW1 in response to the Jews getting Israel.
Although many of them had come from Germany, German Jews and US Jews nevertheless had very tenuous connections.
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The US entered WWI against Germany in April of 1917. The Balfour Declaration came about in November of 1917. Whatever the British tried to accomplish with the Balfour Declaration, encouraging American Jews to push the US into the war wasn’t it because by the time that the Balfour Declaration was issued the US was already one of the Allies.
Zionism wasn’t popular among West European Jews, but among East European Jews it had considerable support among the less religious Jews. The Orthodox Jews of course thought that the return to the Holy Land could only occur after the coming of the Messiah.
German Jews were thrown out with the bathwater. It’s much more sad if German Jews were loyal to Germany then. Even if I don’t believe all the tales, they were hated. A pattern I see is Jews getting worse or more brazen with time. That Jews were better back then makes sense.
German Jews were thrown out with the bathwater. It’s much more sad if German Jews were loyal to Germany then.
Yes, doesn’t that make you feel sad? That image makes me feel so sad. Those brave Jewish WW1 veterans, standing outside their shops in their old army uniforms with all their medals, backs held straight, hoping to stave off the mobs with evidence of their love of the homeland. Shops get burned down anyway. Goddamn that is sad, man! Almost breaks me up.
Even if I don’t believe all the tales, they were hated.
A lot of Germans were anti-Semites, but anti-Semitism goes back a long time in Germany. I’m still not completely sure why Germans were so anti-Semitic. I’ve been trying to understand it all this time. I think it may just have been a “popular prejudice.” Keep in mind that when the Nazis went to Eastern Europe, enthusiastic mobs greeted them in many places, more than eager to turn in the local Jews or tell the Germans where they were hiding. Jews sure pissed off a lot of people, whatever the Hell they did. I’m not sure why so many East Europeans hated Jews. I can understand modern anti-Semitism, but I have a harder time understanding it in times when I was not around.
Jews are absolutely getting worse. They’re now about the worst people on Earth, or the Israel-firsters are anyway. Outside of the Israel-firsters, I don’t care much about Jews. Jews, especially Jewish men, are a bit too aggressive for my tastes, and many of the male Jews in business and academia have a thuggish, somewhat sociopathic quality about them. I don’t really like men like that. But it’s not against the law to be an asshole. It’s definitely not worth killing someone over. We’d have to kill half the men on Earth if being an asshole was worth killing over.