Alt Left: Which Kills More, COVID or the Lockdown?

Claudius: A different but related issue: What is worse, to destroy the economy and people’s lives, or accept that many elderly people may die sooner rather than later? This isn’t a rhetorical question. It’s a question we must answer now. Because if we wait a little longer, the economic disaster will hurt more people than Covid-19.

Locking people won’t make the virus go away. We need herd immunity for that to happen or a vaccine. Can we develop a safe vaccine before we destroy the economy? The economy is what feeds people not authoritarian policy.

It’s not true that the economic problems are killing more than the virus. And as soon as the economic problems are killing more than the virus, I say absolutely open up and stay open as long as it stays that way. If the economy is killing more than the virus, open it up. If they virus is killing more than the economy, shut it down a little or a lot.

Unemployment from the lockdown will kill 14,000/yr last time I checked. COVID death toll is 119,000, but it’s actually 145,000 if you look at the 30% increased death rate even before the unemployment deaths started. Consider also that COVID dramatically lowered the car accident rate.

14,000/yr.
145,000/4 months.

Looks like COVID is killing a lot more than locking down. This opening up is bullshit. All they’re going to do is kill lots more people that wouldn’t have died otherwise.

And my Mom’s 87 years old, and I don’t like the idea of her dying sooner rather than later of this bullshit illness.

There is no herd immunity anywhere in the US. Doing the “herd immunity” option will end up killing millions of people unnecessarily. Only New York City has anything close and they are only at 21% immunity. Elsewhere in the country, even in our largest cities, it’s hard to find more than 1-2% immunity. Herd immunity isn’t working.

The economy won’t get destroyed. The state can keep giving people checks. Those checks and the $600/week unemployment checks are the only thing that has saved our economy so far. We would be so SOL if not that for that. The stimulus was also very helpful to the economy.

As far as feeding the people, nobody’s starving due to this bad economy last time I checked.

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One thought on “Alt Left: Which Kills More, COVID or the Lockdown?”

  1. I did’t mean it would kill more people. I meant it would affect more people negatively in one way or another.

    Also, stimulus can’t go on forever. It’s borrowed money. And what about business who can’t service their debt. I don’t give a shit about consumers. I care about household mortgage payments and businesses making loan payments. Credit is what fuels the economy to a large degree.

    Yes, we can hold out the whole summer if need be. But what good does that do? The virus won’t go away. We’re going to reopen sooner or later. And when that day comes, Covid-19 will strike again. We might as well do it now and not destroy three more months of the economy. I doubt we can save any more lives at this point. All we can do is kill, hurt and maim people through economic disaster.

    With that said, walking around, I see many people out and about. It seems mostly restaurants and gathering venue employees (Morlocks) that got fucked. Most corporate employees (Eloi) are playing Dilbert with work-from-home.

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