My view of PUA/Game or especially Game is that Game is simply all of the things that any man does to make himself attractive to women, to talk to women, to flirt with women, to get dates with women, to get sex with women, and even to have relationships and marriages with women.
It’s about how to get women and then do what you want with them, dump them or try to keep them around. Relationship Game is huge. It’s about how to keep a relationship going.
Seduction Game is simply all of the things and techniques a man does to try to get women, from the way he dresses, grooms himself, social skills, how he carries himself, conversational skills, on and on. That’s all it is. Therefore I hazard a guess to say that really most men run some sort of Game if they are trying to get women at all. It’s not cheap or sleazy or anything like that.
Sure, a lot of PUA’s are assholes, but PUA is just Game really. It’s about how to get and keep women if you wish to do that. PUA is the skills of seduction. Can someone explain to me why so many men are opposed to the skills of seducing women? Is there something wrong with perfecting the skills of attracting and seducing women?
Really most men need to run some sort of Game or use some sort of PUA just to get a woman in the first place. I mean that’s how you get them. They don’t exactly throw themselves into our laps, you know.
There is also Married Man’s Game. All it is is how to keep your marriage on the up and up, how to run your marriage so you are getting what you want out of it and hopefully she is getting what she wants out of it.
Why people are so opposed to this is beyond me. Please stop seeing this whole thing through the lenses of PUA morons and start seeing PUA and Game as helping guys (and ourselves) to get women. Phrasing it that way, would you be opposed to it?
Polar Bear: Honestly don’t respect it. The guys on Youtube I’ve seen go beyond acting gay for women. I suspect many are secretly gay. It’s abandoning or disconnecting from women in a way. Bro this, my man that.
“Forget the girls, my PUA bois in the Jacuzzi right now!” That’s what I pick up on them, more excited to meet other men. Not accusing anyone here but I wonder if the path leads to another man’s anus.
Few if any PUA’s are gay. There’s no homosexuality in the scene. Instead there is frightening misogyny, toxic masculinity (I hate the term but it applies here), and extreme homophobia. It’s like the ultimate anti-gay macho community.
Polar Bear: It’s also cheesy and childish to brag how much puss you get. “I smashed the whole club dude.” Ok Sitch, you dumb motherfucker.
It depends how you do it. Most of the guys I grew up with were slayers, and they definitely discussed their success stories. There is a bragging way to do it and a modest way to do it which could be called false modesty.
If you do it in the modest or false modest way, no one seems to care, and a lot of people get animated and praise you. If you do or did well with women, act embarrassed or even ashamed of it. Shrug your shoulders and look at the ground like it’s nothing. Talk about it like you talk about drinking a glass of water. Don’t act like you are better than other men. If you do it like that, it generally works pretty well.
I grew up with huge studs, players, and slayers, so I am used to guys talking about getting pussy, and it doesn’t really bother me unless they are actually trying to act like they are better than I am, which is not common.
Polar Bear: Chads are the easiest men to get along with. They get enough lady attention and are not threatened by other males, so they don’t have to compensate by being a dick.
This is absolutely perfect. This has been my experience too. Exactly.
Well, some Chads are assholes and are threatened by other men, but the best ones are not. Their attitude is “Male competition? What male competition LOL?”
They’re not thinking about the other guys and competing with them. To these Chads, when they are in a room, the only people in the room are Chad and all of the attractive women in the room. No matter how many men are in the room, none of them are really there. Any unattractive women are not in the room either. Since the other men are not even there, there’s nothing to compete with.
There is a type of Alpha called a Sigma that is like this. He is a sort of antisocial or artsy type, maybe a drug dealer. Whereas a lot of Alphas care a lot about what others think, Sigmas don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of them. They are the ultimate outsiders and rebels and that is their appeal.
Not saying I am Chad (though apparently I am lookswise), but this is how I have operated for a long time. I walk into a room full of people, and the only people there are me and any attractive women. Any men in the room, no matter how many, are not even present. Unattractive women are not there either. And I sort of treat each of them like they aren’t there.
However, any slayers or players in the room might be present and it’s good if you can find one and then you can be “the two slayers in the room checking out the babes,” and you work together as a team. I never or rarely compete with or get jealous of other men because I arrogantly don’t even think of them as competition. It’s not that I am better than they are, it’s more like they are not even in the room. I’m not insecure or worried that the other men are better than I am.
But this is correct. A lot of the best Chads don’t compete with other men at all. Why the Hell should they?
Polar Bear: How many of the big PUA’s are Chads? Likely none.
All of the big PUA’s were Chads. All goodlooking to very goodlooking men and all slayers. Mystery supposedly fucked 500 women and I believe him.
Chad is just a goodlooking man. Any man who is a 7-10 on a 1-10 scale is Chad, so up to 30% of men might be Chad. Chad or Alphas are the guys who is attractive to many or most of the women much of the time.
Normies or Betas are simply men of 4-6 on a 1-10 looks scale. Average. You know, like most people. Betas are attractive to some of the women some of the time. High tier Normies are men who are 6’s, and some women do find them attractive. With good Game they can do ok.
Omegas or subhumans (ha ha) are men who are 1-3 on a 1-10 scale. These are men who are unattractive, homely, or ugly, pick your adjective. They are attractive to almost none of the women almost all the time. They can get a woman on their same level though.
Hot women, 7-10’s, are called Staceys or Stacey. Average women 4-6 are called Beckys or Becky. Unattractive, homely, etc. women are called unpleasant names like hambeasts (homely), ha ha, or landwhales or fatties (fat), ha ha.
Polar Bear: A Chad doesn’t talk about women, they talk about him. “Yeah, he can take his pick of any of us or all three,” A grandmother says to her daughter and granddaughter. That’s the power of a natural born Chad.
This is true in a sense, but Chads do tend to talk about women. They just don’t tend to brag about them. They will definitely discuss their conquests of successes with women, but it’s not a continuous subject. It’s more something that casually comes up now and then. There’s no need to brag because Chads already think they are hot shit, so there’s nothing to prove to anyone and nothing to be insecure about.
Alpha, Beta, and Omega can be statistical, as in Alphas are 20% of men, Betas are 65% of men and Omegas are 15% of men. That’s just a typical statistical breakdown and says nothing about behavior. It refers to how attractive they are to women.
However, there is also Alpha, Beta, and Omega behavior. We all know what Alpha behavior is. There are societies where most of them engage is behavior that is quite Alpha. Beta behavior is less masculine, more submissive, nice guy bullshit, wimpy, meek, passive, etc. Omega behavior is total or near-total fail with women.
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You’re right. Omegas may seem gay. I think Mystery has some gay outfits. All the PUA guys out there, some gays slip in through the cracks. I seen one on ROTK say he passed as a woman when madeup to game guys he knew. The ones of note are straight though.
Actually most Omegas do not seem gay. They often seem very shy, geeky, nerdy, dorky, awkward, sperged out,, anxious, nervous, clumsy, lacking in confidence, passive, etc. Many seem to have Social Phobia. Incels are Omegas because most of them can’t get laid to save their lives. That’s why they are incels after all.
Some PUA guys on Youtube were triggering my gaydar. Not that big of a deal. Even in the most ideal European societies, there will be flamers and hillbillies. Even in the strict Middle Eastern countries, there are gays, as you detailed.
Geez, wonder how Omegas fare in a wolf pack.
Wonder if married men are Beta. By the time they have kids many seem whipped. In The Departed, the Alpha married man, Alec Baldwin, says, “A wedding ring lets women know your cock still works.” The Alpha single man, Jack Nicholson, responds, “You get your period yet?”
I think your numbering scheme is off.
Sure, when it’s men rating women, a 1-10 sliding scale certainly applies. But when it’s the other way around – women rating men – things are quite different. In her head, a woman rates a man as 0, 8, 9, or 10. The hypothetical numbers in between 0 and 8 are just different ways of saying 0.
0 – Nothing attractive at all about the man. He might as well not exist. And if he even dares to speak to her, then it’s immediately flagged as sexual harassment or simply, “Ewww…creepy…gross.”
8 – She’s physically and psychologically attracted to him, but that’s not enough. He has to work some Game on her to prove he isn’t some effeminate pushover and/or low-status loser. Alternatively, he might not have much in the Looks or Charm department, but he holds some position of status or authority she sees as being of value. A lot of good-looking and reasonably successful Betas probably fall in this 8 category.
9 – He’s attractive, reasonably charming, and probably exudes an air of self-confidence. But he still has to do some work in seducing or proving value to her before she’ll spread her legs and seal the deal. C’mon now, those panties don’t just evaporate all on their own.
This sort of guy is consistently successful with good-looking chicks, but he does need to put in some effort. If the 9 guy is lazy, he could probably bag less attractive women with very little effort/Game.
10 – Yeah, he checks all the right boxes, and thus is simply irresistible to her. She will indeed spread her legs the moment they are in private and any LRM (Last Minute Resistance) she might offer before her panties promptly slide off will be nothing more than a formality in service of that very thin veil of propriety she must at least pretend to maintain.
Granted, the 1-10 scale does scale to the woman in question. How attractive the man in the equation is directly correlates to her own self-perception of how attractive she herself is.
Most secular Western chicks have this freaky mulatto fantasy: the athletic body with a thicker than average brown wiener is like crack to an Eastside Oaklander. Sucks. I went from an Alpha to another creature though. But, even with extra pounds, those Xhamster Live whores still lose their crap when I occassionally make a visit. Ha ha, I only strategically show up whilst the paying customers are busy emptying their wallets.
That’s the life of the mind. Late nights, good reading, a sense of fulfillment.
Great! You’re kicking ass, homeboy! Keeping tearing up the town and painting it red!