It’s Actually Possible to Be Too Smart To Succeed in Life

Polar Bear: I’ve seen genius dentists, accountants, etc. have a nervous breakdowns and quit their professional job. A monotonous white-collar job is hard on freakishly intelligent minds. After the breakdown they tended towards simple blue-collar jobs, perhaps where they can entertain themselves.

Musicians are the same way – a demanding job can stifle their creativity. There’s also a theory about great minds being passed for promotion in favor of more humble conforming minds. So in a way the professionals are just average – the real diamonds are in the rough.

Yeah, I’m a genius, if you mean genius IQ, which is the only definition that makes sense. Everyone gets mad when I say that, but so what! If I were 6’6, I’m not allowed to talk about that? Give it up. I’m gifted with a superior natural attribute, and regardless of what use I put it to, that is interesting right there. People who are gifted in any way are interesting whether they put their gifts to much use or not.

It’s dumb to attack me on that because five out of six members of my family are geniuses too. And only one out of those five have made any money at all in life, although we all have degrees, and two of us have advanced degrees and one dropped out of a doctoral program in which they were a star student to get married. And those three are among the four unsuccessful ones!

And amongst US Whites in general, one in a hundred people are geniuses. So geniuses are about as common as weeds. So someone’s a genius? So fucking what! Why are you so uptight and weird about it? If I tell you I’m 6’6, are you going to flip out and attack me for saying that?

And yeah, I have not done well in work or life at all, really. And I have taken a bunch of stupid-ass jobs – dishwasher, security guard, janitor, construction, taxi driver, inventory, bartender, factory worker –  often just because I could spend all my time thinking.

Among people with over 160 IQ, most are men, and many are living in poverty or just above poverty. Many to most are living alone and single. They are often celibate and rarely if ever date. They hardly have any friends. They are serious hardcore loners.

They are typically excruciatingly or even painfully shy, and maybe this drives people away. Most have also become quite misanthropic over the years too, in part because they think the world is full of idiots.

One thing that was nice about the SJW Queera, I mean Quora, site was that they had these discussions about IQ with a lot of questions specifically directed at people at various high levels+. All sorts of very high IQ people answered in the questions, and no one ever shamed anyone for talking about their scores or stating the obvious fact that they were geniuses. Duh.

One thing you saw over and over and over, with a direct linear curve as IQ increased, getting to very high levels over 140 and especially over 160, was that they were all somewhat misanthropic. Over and over, you heard these people saying that the world frustrated or disgusted them because it seemed like most everyone they met was a moron.

That sounds like they are terrible people, but it’s simply a statement of fact. When you have a stratospheric IQ like that, a lot of the people you meet do seem to idiots! It sometimes seems like you have to walk through this minefield of morons just to go about your business.

I had a friend named Bill Arroyo in school. He’s now dead, heart attack at age 48. Alcoholic for decades. I met him in high school. He had an IQ of 135 but he seemed just as smart as I am though I am nearly a full standard deviation higher.  The differences seem to completely wash out at high enough levels.

Anyway, the one thing he kept talking about over and over, was idiots, fools, stupid people, and dumb, stupid, or idiotic concepts, ideas and attitudes. And he always talked about idiocy with a mixture of humor, mockery and ill-disguised contempt.

Lots of those guys are working at the post office at best. They’re too weird to work at a regular job. They wouldn’t last ten minutes at a corporation. The problem is that as IQ rises to very high levels, people tend to get unstable and crazy in a way. Not really in a serious way. It’s more that they become flat out weird rather than actually mentally ill.

Many can’t abide people at all. Silicon Valley and places like that are starting to see the value of some of these types and they are starting to hire some of them, but they can’t work with others at all and they often need special accommodations like working from home a lot, coming in after hours, having their own office away from everyone else, etc.

Everyone knows they are weird as Hell, but they are respected in those environments because most people who work there are smart and smart people respect other smart people, even the weird ones.

The recent historical record of extremely high IQ people is very interesting. The records are from all over the world. One man in Italy with a ~180 IQ actually worked as a janitor or something along those lines his whole life. They asked him why he did that, and he said he took stupid jobs like that so he could think all day.

The world’s smartest man, Christopher Lagan – IQ 200 – dropped out of college because he thought the professors were idiots and has worked only a number of working class jobs in his life. Lumberjack, construction worker, and most recently a nightclub bouncer. Those are the only jobs he wants to work at. Most recently he finally married late in life and now raises horses on a ranch in Missouri with his wife.

But you get the picture.

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11 thoughts on “It’s Actually Possible to Be Too Smart To Succeed in Life”

  1. And yeah, I have not done well in work or life at all, really. And I have taken a bunch of stupid-ass jobs – dishwasher, security guard, janitor, construction, taxi driver, inventory, bartender, factory worker – often just because I could spend all my time thinking.

    Among people with over 160 IQ, most are men, and many are living in poverty or just above poverty. Many to most are living alone and single. They are often celibate and rarely if ever date. They hardly have any friends. They are serious hardcore loners.

    They wouldn’t if they applied their IQ toward business – but its either never occurred to them – or they might be some “hippie money hating” type. Well, among college types – is a general hatred of entrepreneurs etc..

    They are typically excruciatingly or even painfully shy, and maybe this drives people away. Most have also become quite misanthropic over the years too, in part because they think the world is full of idiots.

    And of course Alphas rightfully pick on them. Just kidding lol.

    1. They wouldn’t if they applied their IQ toward business – but its either never occurred to them – or they might be some “hippie money hating” type.

      I don’t think you understand. People like this simply do not do things like that. At some level I do not think they are even capable of it. These guys aren’t hippies at all. I would wager that a lot of them don’t even drink or do drugs. You don’t understand these people.

      Well, among college types – is a general hatred of entrepreneurs, etc..

      These are not even college types and I doubt if they give two fucks about entrepreneurs. The fact is simply that a lot of these people are simply too smart to succeed in life whether it comes to money, work, love, sex, friendship, etc. They’re so smart that they pretty much can’t even function.

      And of course Alphas rightfully pick on them. Just kidding lol.

      Most of them do not describe being picked on at school or if so, they do not seem to be damaged by it. The brilliant people on Quora never talked about being picked on.

      These people are actually so out there and weird that no one will even pick on them. Plus if you pick on them, they probably won’t even respond and if you do that bullies give up after a while. You don’t understand these people. They’re like people from outer space. Would you pick on a spaceman or an alien at your school? Probably not. He’d be almost too weird to bother with.

  2. Many can’t abide people at all. Silicon Valley and places like that are starting to see the value of some of these types and they are starting to hire some of them, but they can’t work with others at all and they often need special accommodations like working from home a lot, coming in after hours, having their own office away from everyone else, etc.

    I’m guessing they would like people – if they were horny enough!

    1. I can see that you have no understanding of these people at all, Jason. Maybe go read up on them or something if you want to wrap your head around what they are really like.

  3. I work a humble job myself and my father was a postal worker. I’m no genius, it’s an attribute but possibly also a double edge sword. I grew up with a genius next door neighbor and met a few others along the way.

    Among people with over 160 IQ, most are men, and many are living in poverty or just above poverty. Many to most are living alone and single. They are often celibate and rarely if ever date. They hardly have any friends. They are serious, hardcore loners.

    They’re odd ducks for sure. The outsider thing rings especially true. I don’t see many with families. I was the king of the neighborhood in a sense, and my genius neighbor struggled at many things in life.

  4. One thing that was nice about the SJW Queera, I mean Quora, site …

    Queera LOL, remarkably accurate.

    How was your experience on that site? A few of my answers got over 3k upvotes. It’s the most popularity I may have received ever on the Internet. But that also came with 3 times more hateful messages.

    I really can’t deal with that much hate on a daily basis. So one day I was like “fuck it” and deleted my Queera account.

    1. Multiple warnings and finally a permanent ban for violating PC SJW “Be Nice, Be Civil” bullshit. Most faggots and dykes turned me in. Not sure about trannies. That site is Fag Central, Tranny Central. It’s absurd how fagged out that site is. It’s downright stupid.

      Other than the bans, I rather enjoyed it.

      1. Well, it depends on the language used. If you’re saying “faggot” and “dyke” etc.. – that’s way different than saying some non-vulgar term.

        1. I didn’t say words like that, not really. I said when we were kids we used to play a game called “Smear the Queer”. The message was “queers get their asses beat.” It was really a pro-gay message about the homophobic messages that straight boys get.

          The faggot snowflakes turned me in anyway. I really hate those retarded fags on there. There’s gay men and there’s faggots. I like gay men a lot if they are wired up that way. They deserve to be treated just as well as anyone else because they can’t help it.

          Gay men aren’t snowflake sissy faggots who turn people in every time someone looks at them wrong. Gay men take it like a man, act like adults, are charitable and easy-going, aren’t paranoid, don’t have a chip on their shoulder, and don’t see enemies hiding under every bed. Faggots do all those things. I like gay men. It’s faggots that I hate. Just like women.

          There’s real women and there’s feminists. I love real women. Feminists can go take a flying leap off a pier for all I care. They will not be missed!

          I didn’t call anyone fag or faggot or dyke or anything like that. I’m not that stupid.

          That site is snowflake central and it’s by far one of the faggiest and tranniest sites on the Net. It’s just bizarre how overrun that place is with non-heterosexuals. It’s like there aren’t any normal people on there.

          Even the straight guys all say, “I wish I was bisexual.” Fuck you, dude! Get the Hell away from me! I really dislike straight men who go out and suck dicks just because they think it’s fun. That’s a lifestyle thing. They didn’t get wired up that way. They’re just perverted idiots and I do not support their lame life choices.

          By the way, there are a lot of more or less straight guys who are sucking cocks now. Every year I meet more and more. It’s really unnerving.

  5. “And yeah, I have not done well in work or life at all, really. And I have taken a bunch of stupid-ass jobs – dishwasher, security guard, janitor, construction, taxi driver, inventory, bartender, factory worker – often just so I could spend all my time thinking.

    Among people with over 160 IQ, most are men and many are living in poverty or just above poverty. Many to most are living alone and single. They are often celibate and rarely if ever date. They hardly have any friends. They are serious, hardcore loners.”

    Is this from anecdotal experience or do you have some resources to find out more about this? I find this aspect of them fascinating. I’d imagine these guy would be working on particle physics or something.

    In a way it’s tragedy that guys with IQ’s as high as 200 are working as lumberjacks and janitors. WTF? If all these people were put to good use where they could maximize their potential, we’d probably have fusion energy and faster than light travel by now!

    1. Hey Tulio. Check out an article on the Net called “The Outsiders.” It is from there that I got most of my information. It is a huge waste of talent of course.

      Nice to see you back!

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