The American Indians had the concept of the berdashe or two-spirit people. A number of other groups around the world have roles for these people too (usually the men).
These men were quite feminine and could not cut it with the various boyhood rituals designed to turn you into a man. They decided to wear women’s clothes. They stayed home with the women and did women’s chores while the men went off in the day and did whatever. I believe that was permissible for a straight man to have sex with either a female, or if he chooses, a two-spirit man. The rest just saw sex with a two-spirit man as the same thing as sex with a woman.
There were also women who were quite masculine and not cut out for women’s work. They wore men’s clothes from early on and would go out and hunt with the men. They were considered “one of the boys.” I believe that she could hook up with another two-spirit woman and become a couple.
The transsexuals have tried to take over this discussion by saying that the two-spirit people were transsexuals. This is not so. They were merely homosexuals like the gay men and lesbians in our society.
On the other hand, there are tribes where there are no homosexuals whatsoever, and they don’t even understand the concept itself. They just found a Pygmy or Negrito group in a jungle somewhere who not only had no homosexuality but even lacked the very concept of it. It was literally unthinkable. They have also found some Amazonian tribes who have neither homosexuality nor the very concept of it.
One wonders if homosexuality is really an innate and immutable characteristic of human societies.
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These men were quite feminine and could cut the various boyhood rituals designed to turn you into a man. They decided to wear women’s clothes. They stayed home with the women and did women’s chores while the men went off in the day and did whatever. I believe that was permissible for a straight man to have sex with either a female, or if he chooses, a two-spirit man. The rest just saw sex with a two-spirit man as the same thing as sex with a woman.
The Afghans and Central Asian countries have a similar tradition called Bacha Bazi, which literally means boy play. Their belief is that because Afghans are a warrior race, if you happen to be not much of a figher, you should become a dancing girl.
These cultures place a lot of importance on masculinity and the men aren’t afraid to die in conflict. But in case, you happen to be one of those soft, effeminate men, you better get used to other men fondling your breasts and ass. Because that’s what you deserve in life.
I don’t think these “bachas”are homosexual by choice. Some of them may be perfectly straight but are pussies in battle, so are treated as such.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
This practice of bacha bazi was temporarily banned during the Taliban rule. Now it’s returned in full seam.
The Arabs have a similar tradition. According to their tradition, all homosexuality is evil and punishable by death. But you’re not really a homo as long as you’re not “receiving” it.
They have a saying among the Arab Bedouins:
“For reproduction, a woman. For a good time, a young boy. But for sheer ecstasy, it’s always a goat.”
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Did you hear that one before?
Thanks, I knew about the Bacha Bazi boys but I did not know the mindset behind it.
Yes, in Arab countries like Egypt and Morocco, up to 20-25% of young single men have homosexual sex before they marry, basically because the females are unavailable for sex.
However, they only have gay sex with what are basically “faggots” who play the female role in gay sex – the catcher, not the pitcher, if you catch my drift. As long as these Arab men play the male role, they are just “fucking a fag” and are not gay at all themselves.
The only gay person is the guy playing the female role – sucking cock, taking it up the ass, etc. As long as you are just getting your cock sucked or fucking someone’s ass, it’s all good, and you are straight as an arrow.
This is fairly common perception in many places in the world – you are only gay if you play the female role in gay sex.
A few friends of mine confessed to me that they had “gotten their cocks sucked by a fag” when they were young. I asked them if they sucked the gay guy’s cock in return, and they were taken aback. “Hell no! That would be gay! I’m no fag!” was pretty much the response.
Sucking cock makes you a fag, and a pretty extreme one at that. Getting your cock sucked is no big deal. A man’s mouth feels just like a woman’s mouth. Just sit back, close your eyes, and pretend it’s a woman.
I have heard that this is quite common in the US, even in small towns, when the “town fag” basically gets fucked by most of the straight guys his age in the town (16-18).
And an old man once told me that it was common where he grew up. There was some “fag” who suck anyone’s cock, and apparently a lot of guys took advantage of this.
Another friend was a merchant marine. He told me, “There was a fag on our ship. Word got out that he would suck the cock of any of the other (straight) sailors.” Then my friend winked and said, “I guess he sucked a lot of cocks.” My friend was a real masculine dude too.
So this is nothing new. Also in prison it is like this. You are only a bitch or a fag if you play the female role in gay sex. Straight men take a “wife” or “girlfriend”, some femmy guy who wants to play the female role in gay sex. Nowadays he often dresses and makes his hair up like a woman and wears makeup, etc. You’re not gay at all if you have a “fag wife” or “fag girlfriend.” The only fag is the dude on the other end.
And yes, I have heard that joke, but instead of a goat at the end, it was a melon! I saw some lame porn once of some idiot fucking a watermelon until he came. I normally don’t watch lame gay jerking off videos, but this one was so weird I could not pass it up. The whole time I was thinking, “What an idiot! Fucking a melon!” It wasn’t a turn-on at all. It was just bullshit.
This is fairly common perception in many places in the world – you are only gay if you play the female role in gay sex.
Apparently, during the eighteenth century, buggery was a popular pastime in the British Army and Royal Navy. If you were a superior officer, you were assigned man-servants who would take abuse from you. No questions asked. Lord Cornwallis most certainly took out his “anger” on some poor cadet after the defeat at Yorktown.
During the Victorian age, all homosexual activities including masturbation were banned. This turned the sexually frustrated Brits into complete tyrants and they would take great pleasure in abusing the colonized peoples as a substitute for sexual release. As recently as the 1950s, they castrated Alan Turing. He was later denied entry into the United States because probably nothing was worse in America then than coming out as a fag.
I have heard that this is quite common in the US, even in small towns, when the “town fag” basically gets fucked by most of the straight guys his age in the town (16-18).
I thought straight Americans are generally repelled by anything homosexual. They’ll beat up anyone who touches them inappropriately.
Yes, in Arab countries like Egypt and Morocco, up to 20-25% of young single men have homosexual sex before they marry, basically because the females are unavailable for sex.
I had a Moroccan grab my dick once. Apparently, he just wanted to deliver the punch line to a joke. What stopped me from punching him was that we were just having a beer together. I was like, “What the fuck, man?” He was smiling apologetically.
They’re all perverts. Always high on hallucinogenic drugs.
I thought straight Americans are generally repelled by anything homosexual. They’ll beat up anyone who touches them inappropriately.
LOL once I met this guy and he invited me up to his place. I went there and soon enough it turned out he was some sort of gay, and he hit on me very fast. I was very freaked out and told him no angrily. He got very apologetic “I’ve been doing this since I was 12” and said he was bisexual. “I love women, I really do,” he said. He had some straight porn on the TV.
Then he got out a stack of photos of young men. It was just their faces. He started showing them to me, saying he had sucked all of their cocks. Most were very young men, maybe 18-25. A lot looked very masculine, like construction workers, hard-ass working class guys. He said they all identified as straight.
I don’t usually read gay stories, but I do like fucked up stuff. If it’s fucked up, I want to read it! Well, I was cruising around and found this site of bug chasers and gift givers. These are HIV-negative gay men who wish to get HIV, so they go around trying to find HIV-positive guys to get fucked by them so these poz guys can give them HIV. The gift givers are HIV-positive gay men who accommodate bug chasers by gladly fucking them and hopefully giving them HIV.
So there were a bunch of fucked up stories on there about these gay men who were either gift giving or bug chasing. It was sick and gross as Hell, my favorite material!
Well, one story was by this older gay man who was a gift giver. He and his friends had found an 18 year old boy who was a bug chaser.
The boy told the men that he had come from a small town, and he was the only gay boy in town. So a lot or most of the straight teenage boys in town were fucking him because word got out that he would let anyone fuck him. If you couldn’t get a girl you could at least fuck a guy. And I have heard many other stories like that.
As an aside the older guy and all of his friends fucked this boy in this gay gangbang or whatever. Then he came back and they did it to him a few more times. However, no matter how many times they fucked him, he never got HIV.
The older man premised that perhaps the boy was resistant to HIV, so he could not get it no matter how many times he was exposed to it. They have found some resistant people, especially Kenyan prostitutes. No matter how many times they get fucked by HIV-positive men, they never get the virus. They are trying to figure out what makes them resistant.
By age 18, 25% of men have had a homosexual experience. Gay stuff is epidemic in adolescence, mostly jerking each other off. They don’t consider themselves gay.
From 18-24 I ran into all sorts of more or less straight or mostly straight guys who were doing this gay stuff too. A couple were good friends of mine! They all identified as regular straight guys and were big horndogs like the rest of us.
I never did it with any of them, and I was pretty pissed off their fagging off nonsense. When straight guys resort to gay sex opportunistically, it is called “fagging off,” and it is strongly looked down on by many guys as lame behavior and something to be avoided. I concluded that teenage boys and young men aged 18-25 are so damned horny that they will screw anything that moves. Their sex drive is extremely high. If they can’t get a woman, they will screw guys instead.
That’s why I think it is imperative to allow teenage boys and young men to have females to have sex with so they don’t start fagging off instead. Otherwise you have a lot of opportunistic homosexuality. You want your boys and young men all fucking each other like a bunch of faggots? No? Well then allow girls and women to have premarital sex with them!
Working out and running tends to highly boost testosterone. I don’t think even “soft guys” would be as feminine if they did these things.
How hard is men’s work anyhow? I mean, any dip-shit can grow a beard, get some macho job – but not really do many macho things. What so macho about reading electric grids or something? What real work do they do all day?
But these people will bitch about people on welfare – and they always put on the image they work hard – when it’s probably way less than someone doing fast food, of any gender.