Lousy Arguments the Left Uses to Counter “Racist Facts”

A repost of a previously posted article that is being reposted because it is being linked in a very stupid Cultural Left feminist site run by some cucked male feminist soyboy. This article is said to make me a huge racist even though every single fact I report here is 10

Below is a list of the “racist facts” that I listed in a previous post. But first of all, a look at some great progress. Some good news for once.

Blacks Have Made Much Progress in Ameliorating Black Problems and Discrepancies

Yes, Blacks have closed the achievement gap by 1/3, which shows it was not purely genetic. However, 2/3 of the gap remains. Blacks in the UK have closed the achievement gap completely according to scores on the latest high school achievement tests.

Yes, the Black crime rate can go down and has gone down dramatically in the last 25 years. But that occurred at the same time as the crime rate for everyone dropping dramatically. It’s definitely true that you can have large swings in the Black crime rate. Black violent crime is down 4

Nevertheless, crime reduction becomes an arms race as the White rate declines concurrently with the Black rate so the Black 6X discrepancy remains.

Yes, there are Black societies in Africa with over 1 million members who have homicide rates as low as the Japanese. This shows that a high Black crime and violent crime is not a genetic inevitability. And it shows that genes are not destiny.

An excellent environment which does not occur naturally very often (I call it a superenvironment) can wipe out the entire Black tendency towards crime and violence (which I believe is genetic). The problem is that replicating these “superenvironments” Blacks need to get these problems down to low levels seems to be quite difficult to achieve.

The Black IQ gap has closed significantly among Black children, among whom it has closed by 4

The Black single parent rate was quite low in the 1950’s when 8

There are wealthy Black areas like Baldwin Hills and Ladera Heights that reportedly have low crime rates. They are the opposite of rundown, slummy, blighted, dangerous Hellholes. Apparently if you get a lot of wealthy Blacks in one place, they can create a well-functioning metropolis.

However, in general, it seems that not a whole lot can be done to ameliorate the Black problems and discrepancies below. This is why most of the people talking about such things resort to extreme solutions such as bringing back Jim Crow and legal discrimination or forming a separate White state.

They advocate such extreme solutions because those are the only real ways to deal with the problems below. The problem here is that the solution is immoral. Immoral solutions are not acceptable no matter the problem.

Now we will look at why there is little point harping on and on about these discrepancies unless you can do something about it. If you don’t have even a partial solution to a problem, why talk about it?

Why Bother Writing about “Racist Facts?”

If there’s no solution, and if writing about this just gets me called racist, makes Blacks and liberals hate me, and stimulates a lot of White racism, why bother to write about this stuff unless I want to use these facts as a stick to beat Black people with? See what I mean? That’s why I don’t bother often to write about these things. I write about them once in a while, but I don’t like to harp on and on about them.

What’s the point? There’s no way to fix them, and all writing about them does is cause a lot of bad vibes, exacerbate hostility and racism in society, and make even more people hate me. Why do it?

Now we will look at the absolutely awful rejoinders that the liberal/Left uses as rejoinders against “racist facts.”

Bad Arguments Used by the Left to Counter “Racist Facts”

Nevertheless, the Left still has no arguments or very poor arguments for all of the facts below. I would like to point out first of all that the Left gets away with calling all of the above facts racist because they say they are lies. So we need to determine if these are lies or not. If they’re not lies, then the facts below are not racist. How can you have racist facts? It’s weird.

Even things like “Black schools tend to perform more poorly,” they will say is a lie because it’s a generalization. They will say, “Lots of Black students do very well in school, so that’s a racist lie!” This argument is a logical fallacy, but never mind. The rest of the allegations, they will just say they are not true.

I will list the previously stated facts below along with the bad arguments that the liberal/Left uses to try to refute them. I would like to point out that all of these liberal/Left rejoinders are very bad arguments. All are illogical or do not even attempt to counter the original statement. And in general, they rely in a huge way on all sorts of logical fallacies.

  •    Black people are less intelligent than Whites as measured accurately by IQ tests. They will say that’s a lie. However, it is simply a 10
  •     Black people impose considerable costs on society. They will say that’s a lie or White people impose costs on society too, so therefore the statement is a lie. This is factually true. Black people per capita impose much greater costs on society than other races.
  •     Your average Hispanic has an IQ of 90. They will say that’s a lie. But this is a straight up pure scientific fact. There’s no debate about that figure either. It’s accepted across the board.
  •     Blacks commit 6X more crime than Whites. They will either say that’s a lie, or it’s due to poverty (which means it’s still true) or that Whites commit just as much crime except they commit corporate crime. Those are all very bad arguments. First of all it is true. Second of all it’s not due to poverty. West Virginia is the poorest state in the country and it has the second lowest crime rate. The kicker? It’s almost all White. As far as corporate crime, so what? Does it effect you personally? Anyway it goes on constantly no matter who’s in power and there’s no way to reduce it. Since it’s always at the same level, isn’t it a good idea to lower street crime then? Are individuals truly and obviously harmed by corporate crime the same way they are by street crime? I say no. When I am walking in a shady neighborhood at midnight, and there is a guy in a suit and tie walking behind me, I will not start running away because I’m afraid he’s about to violate a health and safety code. Get it?
  •     Blacks are 1
  •     Large cities with high percentages of Black people tend to be slummy, dangerous, rundown, blighted hellholes. They will ask you to define those terms, say there are nice areas in all of those cities, say it is due to discrimination (which means it’s still a fact), or say White cities are slummy too. The terms are obvious. So what if there are nice parts of those towns? Does that obviate the places like look like they just got leveled in a WW2 bombing run? Discrimination doesn’t cause heavily Black cities to turn into slummy, dangerous, rundown, blighted hellholes. You know what causes those cities to be like that? Black people. Black people created those cities in precisely that way of their own free chosen will for whatever reason. There are almost no slummy White cities in the US. Haven’t seen one yet and I’ve been all over.
  •     Blacks tend to be more impulsive than Whites. They will say that’s a lie and demand evidence. Never mind the candy bar test originally done in the Caribbean and redone in the US and elsewhere in the Caribbean now replicated ~15 times. These tests showed conclusively that at least Black children are vastly more impulsive than White children at off the charts rates. And it has to be genetic. Those kids were only six years old.
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  •     Many Black men do not stick around and take care of their children. Same thing. Racism makes them do it, or Whites stole all the jobs. Neither of those things are true. Black men do this, it’s a fact, they do it far more than other races, and they do it of their own free will for whatever reason.
  •     Most prison rape is Black on White. Almost none is the other way around. They will say it’s a lie and demand proof. Or they will bring up some weird case of a White raping a Black and say it’s a lie because Whites rape Blacks too. Those are terrible rejoinders. Black men rape White men in prisons all the time. White men almost never rape Black men in prisons. Those are facts. Those Black men in prisons rape those White men of their own free will at insanely disproportionate rates for whatever reasons they have to do that.
  •     Blacks have quite high rates of STD’s. They will say Whites get STD’s too or it’s due to poverty or racism (which means it’s still true). Whites get STD’s at much lower rates than Blacks. Black STD rates have nothing to do with poverty or racism. Who knows what causes it but Blacks are far more promiscuous than Whites on average, so there’s a clue.
  •     Heavily Black schools tend to perform poorly. First they will say it’s not true, then they will say it’s due to poverty and racism. It’s not due to poverty or racism. There is a considerable intelligence gap between Blacks and Whites on average. This average lower intelligence would be expected produce poorly performing schools.
  •     Blacks tend to be poorer than Whites at postponing instant gratification. See the candy bar studies. Liberals reject all of those candy bar studies as flawed even though they have been replicated 15 times. And they were done with little six year old children, so there’s little cultural influence. And many were done in the Caribbean, where there is zero racism against Blacks.
  •     One of the main reasons so many Blacks get shot by police is because they commit so much crime. They will say that Whites commit crime too. Sure, but they don’t commit nearly as much! Unarmed Whites are more likely to get killed by police than unarmed Blacks, so Black Lives Matter is based on a fraud, and obviously the high rates of Black killings by police are simply due to Blacks committing six times as much crime.
  •     Black people tend to be louder than White people. They will say that Whites are loud too and bring up some example of loud White people. Ever taught in a Black school? Ever taught in a White school? Hispanic school? Asian school? Pacific Islander (Filipinos and Samoans) school? I have taught all of those races of students countless times over many years. Blacks are much louder than any of those groups. It’s most horrifically noticeable in primary and junior high, but it can still be heard in 9th grade and even up to 10th grade. 11th and 12th grade Black schools even in the heart of the ghetto are rather subdued because all the bad ones are either dropped out and on the streets, in juvenile hall, or dead.
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20 thoughts on “Lousy Arguments the Left Uses to Counter “Racist Facts””

  1. Well, just cause some facts are true – doesn’t mean they should be exploited. What Nazis etc.. do is use “facts” to promote hate. Now, I do admit, though, that some “facts” – like black crime – are hard to deal with – without becoming hateful.

    Well, I see it this way, in areas “way full of blacks” – the negative aspects of black cause major problems. However, in small towns it’s not as much the case. So I’d say a policy similar to Brazil of “totally integrating” blacks to be the best deal.

    As much as blacks, poor whites etc. are not integrated in the society – then so much that their “negativity” will magnify.

    Now of course – integration of oppressed groups – also means more social mobility.

    80% of Black kids are born to a single mother. They will say that’s because of racism or because Whites took all the jobs away. Neither of those things are true. This is true because so many Black men of their own free will refuse to stick around and take care of their kids for whatever reason. I’m not sure why this is but this behavior is also very common in the Caribbean and Africa, so maybe there’s a genetic tendency, no idea.

    Socialism needs to be modified to where it’s not used as an excuse for family breakdown. Note: right wingers – who are not racist, love to pound on this idea. The idea being “Socialism breaks down family structure.”.

    Anyway, no doubt, family breakdown – is what is the downfall of the poor in the US – whatever race.

    1. Yeah, I think the problem is rudeness also. Facts make people mad – and also, as I was saying, they’re just exploited by the hatemongers (not including you Robert) who make them.

      Now I’m not in favor of being some “slave” to non-whites – just to be a nice guy, but on the other hand, you have to know what to say, and how to say it.

      1. That’s why I don’t talk much about “racist facts.” All it does is piss Black people off, get lots of people to scream racist at me, and it seems to encourage the racist commenters to come out to play. Reciting those facts all the time seems to exacerbate racism and race problems in the US. So why do it? That’s why I don’t choose to talk about that stuff most of the time, even though it’s true.

        1. What would happen to the people that make a living off this shit had the words race, racism and racist removed from the language? Would they be deaf mutes?

          1. All identity politics – including the white one, lives off “talking about racism”. However, it seems real progress is made by people who ignore it.

          2. All IP lives off talking about not racism but bigotry and hate. Apparently if we get rid of bigotry and hate, everything else magically fixes itself. It’s also odd that the Left can’t seem to walk and chew gum at the same time. They abandoned class in order to concentrate on social sadism (IP). As if they couldn’t do both at once. As if they thought that focusing on class would turn the country into a nation of shitlords. Why can’t you work on both things at once? I don’t get it.

            OTOH, I am an economic reductionist. This IP stuff is just distraction, doesn’t seem to do a lot of good anyway, and is based on irrationality, pathological lying, and a hatred of science and facts. I don’t see why I should abandon empiricism because it conflicts with this groovy intersectional paradise these loudmouths want to create.

          3. I like how race doesn’t exist and is a social construct and they scream racist if you even imply that races exist. Yet somehow racism exists. Racism means prejudice against someone because they are objectively of a different race.

            Face it folks. If race doesn’t exist than racism doesn’t exist. You can hate a social construct. You can’t hate something that doesn’t exist and isn’t even real.

          4. Stuff not directly focused on race – can win the hearts of people. Preachy stuff, on the other hand, has the opposite reaction.

            Well, I think the Jewish Hollywood or whatever – focused on “low-key” anti-racism at first – and that did work.

          5. “Well, I think the Jewish Hollywood or whatever – focused on “low-key” anti-racism at first – and that did work.”

            This stuff works so much better when it’s low key. You scream racist at a White person and whether they deserve it or not, they’re just going to get their back up and a lot will say fuck it and double down on the racism just because.

            You catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar.

            You solve more problems by gently trying to encourage people to do better rather than screaming in their face.

          6. This stuff works so much better when it’s low key. You scream racist at a White person and whether they deserve it or not, they’re just going to get their back up and a lot will say fuck it and double down on the racism just because.

            You catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar.

            You solve more problems by gently trying to encourage people to do better rather than screaming in their face.

            Yes, exactly. Well put.

  2. Large cities with high percentages of Black people tend to be slummy, dangerous, rundown, blighted hellholes. They will ask you to define those terms, say there are nice areas in all of those cities, say it is due to discrimination (which means it’s still a fact), or say White cities are slummy too. The terms are obvious. So what if there are nice parts of those towns? Does that obviate the places like look like they just got leveled in a WW2 bombing run? Discrimination doesn’t cause heavily Black cities to turn into slummy, dangerous, rundown, blighted hellholes. You know what causes those cities to be like that? Black people. Black people created those cities in precisely that way of their own free chosen will for whatever reason. There are almost no slummy White cities in the US. Haven’t seen one yet and I’ve been all over.

    Honestly, though, “trailer inhabitant” type people WOULD create a “white slum city” if there were enough to do it. That’s not some kind of liberal lie.

    Yes, there are Black societies in Africa with over 1 million members who have homicide rates as low as the Japanese. This shows that a high Black crime and violent crime is not a genetic inevitability. And it shows that genes are not destiny.

    An excellent environment which does not occur naturally very often (I call it a superenvironment) can wipe out the entire Black tendency towards crime and violence (which I believe is genetic). The problem is that replicating these “superenvironments” Blacks need to get these problems down to low levels seems to be quite difficult to achieve.

    The Black IQ gap has closed significantly among Black children, among whom it has closed by 40%, and in places like Barbados and Bermuda, where it has closed by 50%. Nevertheless a significant gap remains. Blacks have closed the standardized test score gap in high school in the UK. Such scores can be seen as proxies for IQ.

    Blacks literally have to inter-marry into white families to create that environment in the US. But of course, racists ARE DEAD SET AGAINST IT.

    1. Show me one city in America where low class Whites, trailer trash or White trash Whites have ruined. There are plenty of towns and small cities where people like that are the majority.

      I have lived in small town full of such Whites. They didn’t create the typical ruined Black hellscape.

      1. They’re not ruined, but they’re full of swindler types, thieves. Also, they’re full of drug addiction (pain pills specifically).

        But you can live there. But you don’t want to get too close to many of them and you need security. But then again, it’s impossible to avoid the locals – without seeming like an asshole (snob).

  3. Honestly whites will not create a “drive-by” gangster environment. However, though, if certain families are “too close to you” – they can use “family connections” to steal, swindle, extort, accuse you of crimes (maybe molestation or something).

    So anyhow, it’s not all about “the look”. Certain blacks look like violent criminals (or just highly untrustworthy). On the other hand, certain poor whites can “worm their way” into your life – and especially since, there is “less a taboo” about them marrying into your white family.

    1. Trust me. Your ancestors were not wrong and old wives’ tales are mostly true. Listen to your grandma, dammit. Most of those Black people who look pretty sketchy don’t act real great either. These are some exceptions. Like around here most Blacks no matter how they behave adopt the basic ghetto appearance and outward behavioral traits. But I have been told that a lot of them don’t really act bad and behave more or less decently. I just don’t like the outfit. The plot’s fine but the wardrobes and the actors’ lines suck.

      1. Of course, stereotypes are true – but also so many low-class whites are equally despicable. Anyway, they would also benefit from being spread out – like the blacks. I mean, some people in my family are super-snobs and prejudiced – against other whites. Well, that situation won’t change – as long as the suburbanites live – “Yuppie-only” areas.

        1. I don’t think low class Whites are catastrophe that requires national action the way ghetto Blacks are. It’s just not the same thing. I mean they have some problems – pill addiction and whatnot, but we are already dealing with that. Anyway the argument was that low class Blacks actually destroy entire metropolises. Low class Whites don’t do that. You are doing just what I said liberals do in my article. I said low class Blacks turn cities into the equivalent of bombed out war zones and you answered basically, “Whites do it too.”

          I happen to think Blacks destroying whole cities is on the order of a national emergency. I don’t know what we can do about it, but the problems of low class Whites are probably on the order of 15% of the problem of low class Blacks.

          Low class Whites are no way just as “despicable” as ghetto Blacks. I’ve lived in whole towns full of these people. Even with serious meth problems, it was really no big deal. Almost zero crime too. Nobody ripping anybody off. Nobody ever stole from me and I lived there for 20 years. Low class Whites are not such a clusterfuck that we need to think about spreading them out.

          1. Depends on how close you are to them (white low-lifes) – and especially the elderly would be easy targets.

            Anyway, of course, areas damaged by whites are no near the level of damage by blacks. However, though, as you say -“real integration” is the key. Whites have simply been “too snobby” to blacks (and also other whites, Mexicans, you name it) for the past 200 years. In fact, even in the 50s, it was perfectly normal to view interracial marriage as wrong – or even just associating outside your race.

            But… these groups need integration (especially blacks – at an emergency level) – because they cannot function on their own – like say Northeast Asians can.

          2. I think you are correct here. Integration seems to be good for Black people. It’s good for Blacks to mix with other races. All races act better than ghetto Blacks, so mixing these Blacks with other races tends to make them act better at least when they are a minority of 20% or less. Blacks do better when they go to school with Whites. White blood or genes or however you want to put it are good for Black people. Segregating Blacks seems catastrophic. They group together in large numbers and they all start driving each other down to the bottom.

            I guess the real lesson here is that one of the keys to getting low class Blacks to act better is to mix them a lot with other races. Integration is good for Blacks and segregation is bad for them. And for the rest of us too, integrating Blacks seems to be better for society as a whole.

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