Alt Left: Black People and Anti-Racists in General Will Never Understand Anti-Black Racism

I said in an old post that Blacks and antiracists in general should go to racist sites like Stormfront or racist humor sites like Chimpout or Niggermania to see why people really hate Black people. Actually, Stormfront would be a bad choice because they’re not very rational. The people at the other two sites make a lot more sense. Look through the Introductions section on those sites where new members introduce themselves and tell, well, tell why they hate Black people so much.

Blacks and anti-racists in general think the dislike, wariness, or out and out hatred of Black people is the height or irrationality. It’s crazy and it’s evil.

Now I would argue that if you are a Black person who acts just fine and you are still a victim of racism, this is serious moral error. I have some great Black folks on my site. I don’t personally know Alpha, Tulio, Greg, Phil or the other Blacks on my site, but what I’ve learned about them is that they all seem like great people. In particular, they behave quite well.

When I think that these people, my Black friends, will suffer racism, prejudice, unfairness and hate because of things that other people did, it almost makes my blood boil. It’s so wrong.

Specifically, you are being held responsible for the behavior of the other members of your race when you have done absolutely nothing wrong at all. It’s basically collective punishment. Why should that Black person over there, who acts as decently as any other citizen, be subjected to racist hatred because a lot of his racial brethren act terrible?
That’s immoral on a deep and powerful level, but it’s also understandable.

The problem with Moral Philosophy is that a lot of immoral behavior is understandable. Humans are not wild, slavering, drooling, crazed beasts of the field. Even people who act bad often have some pretty sensible reasons for doing so. The problem is that behavior that is sensible (not irrational) and understandable is often nevertheless morally wrong.

Black people and antiracists just don’t get it. Racists don’t hate Black people for no reason.
Few people hate Black people “because of the color of their skin.” Actually, if they did, it would make it a lot easier for people to hate anti-Black racists because hating someone due to the color of their skin is pretty awful.

Few people hate Black people because of how they look. Asians look pretty funny too to us Whites, and it doesn’t seem to bother anyone. If Blacks acted like Norwegians or Japanese, I think anti-Black racism would be at a  pretty low level.

Which brings us to the cause of almost all anti-Black racism: It’s the behavior of Black people. Period. If you go to the sites I listed above, you will notice that almost immediately. On the Introductions section, over and over, you will see almost everyone there say that they hate Black people because of the way they act. Then they will list a lot of very negative experiences they had with Black people.

And in a way, you can’t blame them. It’s wrong to go so racist due to these types of experiences, but I see why people do it. I’ve had many of the same negative experiences with Black people, and it is only with conscious effort that I have kept myself from falling into the racism hole.

Not because it’s wrong, although it is. Mostly because it’s a hole that I don’t want to fall down into. And it is wrong to hate well-behaved Blacks because so many of their tribe act terrible. To me, that’s a moral error on a very serious scale. It would be hard to live with myself if I felt that way.

Blacks and antiracists simply refuse to believe that this is the reason why Blacks are disliked. They get very agitated and angry if you so much as mention it. According to them, Black people don’t act bad at all. They act just fine. Except anyone who has spent a lot of time around Blacks knows that’s just not true. Yet Blacks keep insisting that Black people act just fine. People say Blacks act bad, and Blacks say well, White people act bad too.

Yes…but…the difference is the numbers.
Compared to Blacks, the number of White people who act bad is quite low, and the degree to which they act bad is on a much lower level. Looking out at a population level, there’s much less bad behavior, and what bad behavior there is is typically at a lower level.

Now you go over to a Black area and the bad behavior is everywhere. There are far more folks acting bad, and they are acting bad in a far worse way than Whites do.

Actually there are behaviors that low class Blacks engage in routinely that you will almost never see a White person engage in, simply because in White culture, that behavior is regarded as unspeakably low.

Even poor and working class Whites often have strong moral and behavioral codes and stringent rules of behavior. I don’t think these Whites act better because of their genes. It’s probably culture. But there is something in even pretty low White culture that is above even average level behavior of low class Blacks.

So when Whites see Blacks routinely doing things that are absolutely outrageously rude and disgusting beyond all comprehension, we are outraged. We are outraged on a moral level. We are morally offended at what to us is outrageously bad behavior.

Black people won’t have any of this. They jump up and down and yell, “Why do you care? Why do you think about us anyway?” It’s simple.

These Blacks have never studied Moral Philosophy. Behavior that is so outrageously bad that it is almost never seen in one’s culture because it’s universally regarded as the lowest of the low outrages people on a moral level.

People who get outraged on a moral level are often not bad people. At worst they might be too good – i.e., prigs like my late father. But Black people get furious at good people who are morally outraged by people acting awful and say that these outraged folks are bad people. No they’re not. If they were bad people, they wouldn’t be so outraged by terrible behavior. Only good people get outraged by people who act awful.

Good people have relatively high morals, and when they see lowly behavior, it sets off a sense of moral outrage in them. Black people say that these people are evil for having high morals and a sense of moral outrage for despicable and low behavior. This is so wrong. No one is evil for having high morals and a sense of outrage over anti-civilizational behavior. It’s never evil to come from a place of elevated morals.

The problem is that Black people will simply never admit that Black people tend to act worse, a Hell of a lot worse, than other races, such as White people. They’ll go to their graves insisting that this is not true. Yes, there are people in every race that act bad, of course there are.

But humans are smarter than that. Humans are intelligent enough to play the odds game.

In my youth, I had many encounters with my fellow Whites whom I lived with. Of course these were a mixed bag, but I had many good encounters, and I was able to make many good friendships. Sure, I ran into some bad White people who harmed me, but their numbers were not large. In general, you could make friends with a White person and be pretty well assured that they would treat you right.

My very first encounter with Black people – on the street outside my father’s school in Watts at age 12 – was terrible. My father was inside working in  his classroom and he had foolishly left us outside.

Two very young and very feral Black boys asked us to play some game with them – I forget which – and very quickly they were trying to steal from us, and there was a wild fistfight in the streets. My little six year old brother took on both of those little ratfucks. This sort of thing would almost never happen with the White boys our age, and we had dealt with some pretty bad White bullies. But even the worst White bullies weren’t that bad.

My next encounter was with JD, one of the few Black guys at my school. He was friends with my group of friends so I became a sort of friend of his, although he was always a bit of an ass. One night he left me in a park for 45 minutes for absolutely no reason at all, just for a joke.

Somehow he came back around later, and my friends in the car with him saw me and picked me up. My other friends were all laughing, but none of them would have done that to me. In fact, very few Whites I knew at that time would do that to me. JD simply thought that was a hilarious joke.

JD had a brother named MD. He was a former football player, and I rather liked him. He had parties at his house, and the 14-16 year old high school kids in my crowd would hang out there, drinking cheap wine and smoking weed. He was a good jolly fellow, but he was later arrested for having sex with teenage White girls.

There was a Black man named Mr. Matthews at my school. He was the only Black teacher. He was also a jolly good-natured Black man. While I was there, he was arrested for having sex with a 15 year old White girl student. People said it was racism, but I doubt it. I think he did it.

Ok, now I am in high school, and I’ve met a whole five Black people.

  • Two tried to steal from me and then picked a fight with me.
  • One left me in a park for 45 minutes as a joke.
  • Two were grown men who got arrested for having sex with teenage White girls.

5-5.

At least two of them were in jail or juvey, and another two should have been.

All five acted pretty damn bad. Their rate of bad behavior was far higher and an order of magnitude greater than the Whites I knew.

The statistics prove that Black people as a race act pretty damned horribly no matter how you slice the cake. Line up any number of statistics on any number of behavioral variables, and there are the Blacks, leading the charge in the bad behavior brigade.

Why do we care? Because morals are important to us. Because we have deeply held moral beliefs, and people who violate our morals in an outrageous way offend us to an incredible degree. Moral outrage is a thing. It’s a normal thing. A rational thing. A morally outraged person is not usually a bad person.

Black people can huff and puff all they want to about how evil Whites are for feeling morally outraged. “Well, don’t think about us then!” That’s not helpful. It’s Blacks who are acting awful. The solution to people acting awful isn’t to call the people who are offended by them evil and order the offended to look the other way and mind their own business.

The problem that keeps circling back around itself is that Blacks refuse to believe that Black people act bad. You can throw anecdotes at them, and they will cry, “Anecdotes!” You can throw impressions and intuition at them, and they will cry “Impressionistic!,” “Unscientific!” and demand scientific studies. Then you throw scientific studies at them, and they order you to shut up and take down the damned studies, and then they yell that the studies are wrong.

The Emperor’s walking naked down the street and everyone is looking at him and laughing, and Black people are jumping up and down and screaming that he has clothes on and screaming that the people who see that he’s naked are evil. That never works very long.

You can scream at people all you want that their eyes aren’t seeing what they see, that their ears aren’t hearing what they hear, that their very senses aren’t sensing what they sense. People will get confused for a bit and believe you and think maybe they are hallucinating after all, but then they will revert right back to sense and reason.

And when you yell at people like that and accuse them of hallucinating, Blacks and antiracists are gaslighting people on huge scale, 10’s of millions of people at a time. Are they proud of that?

And this is the saddest part of all. As long as Black people keep acting so terrible, anti-Black racism will never go away. The antiracist project will be forever doomed. This is heartrendingly sad to me because at its root base, at its core, the antiracist project is a noble one. Wouldn’t a society with a diminished degree of racism be a wonderful thing? It would for me. It would be like a dream.

But the antiracist project will keep crashing back on itself because anti-Black racism is driven overwhelmingly, especially at this late date, by bad Black behavior and little else. This is very depressing, and I don’t know what to say about it, but hollering that Black people act just fine isn’t going to cut it. People will believe a lie for only so long until reality keeps coming back and smashing them in the face and wakening them from their socially drugged slumber.

31 thoughts on “Alt Left: Black People and Anti-Racists in General Will Never Understand Anti-Black Racism”

  1. Actually, Stormfront would be a bad choice because they’re not very rational.

    Fair point.

    Now I would argue that if you are a Black person who acts just fine and you are still a victim of racism, this is serious moral error.

    If one presumes HBD views, then it might also be very immoral to take money from Whites to create intervention causing the environment making moral Black folk.

    When I think that these people, my Black friends, will suffer racism, prejudice, unfairness and hate because of things that other people did, it almost makes my blood boil. It’s so wrong.

    It’s even worse when its done against kids who are dependent on their social circle. Adults can handle it somewhat well.

    Few people hate Black people because of how they look. Asians look pretty funny too to us Whites, and it doesn’t seem to bother anyone. If Blacks acted like Norwegians or Japanese, I think anti-Black racism would be at a pretty low level.

    Blacks have big penises and look cooler, so they’d be super popular if that were true. Imagine how much pop music there’s gonna be when Africa has an population of 2.3 billion (compared to the like 45 million Blacks in the states) with an younger demographic and living standards similar to Black Detroit, and even better living standards long term if they behaved like the Japanese. And that’s one factor. Blacks would probably become so frivolous they’d mass consume plastic surgery like the Brazilians and Koreans, making them very sexy.

    Blacks and antiracists simply refuse to believe that this is the reason why Blacks are disliked. They get very agitated and angry if you so much as mention it. According to them, Black people don’t act bad at all. They act just fine. Except anyone who has spent a lot of time around Blacks knows that’s just not true. Yet Blacks keep insisting that Black people act just fine. People say Blacks act bad, and Blacks say well, White people act bad too. Yes…but…the difference is the numbers.”

    Some SJW´s follow this pattern. Still, to mention the numbers tend to be to try to evoke racist talking points or emotions very often, so i think it’s somewhat ok to get a little agitated.

    I don’t think most non-racists believe that there are no differences in behaviour, but that the phrasing and factoids mentioned tend to be structured deliberately to make neoliberal politics (people such as Thomas Sowell), large scale implicit or even explicit discrimination (people like Lauren Southern and Black Pigeon Speaks) and genocide an inevitable conclusion, in many cases thanks to an deliberate obfuscation of cause and effect.

    The liberals therefore likes to flower the terminology used to limit this as much as possible, often going too far, as it’s the most effective strategy. Ideally, the antiracist liberals/Blacks think that creating the concept of systemic racism would also attack conservative economics and racism at the same time as an efficient method to give Blacks access to capital formed by the economy that works better under liberalism, thus ending the gap by changing the culture in all aspects, of course assuming that the differences are environmental.

    For these Democrats, it’s racists and laissez faire capitalists (which are neatly correlated) that are the issue, thus the clannishness.

    Some blacks are weirdly tribal though, I don’t know how many they are or why they are so tribal. I think it probably correlates with the stupidity of Blacks, kinda like how genuine economically conservative Blacks can’t manage to not look like coons.

    I don’t think these Whites act better because of their genes. It’s probably culture.

    Interesting, got any evidence to operationalize and predict this?

    These Blacks have never studied Moral Philosophy. Behavior that is so outrageously bad that it is almost never seen in one’s culture because it’s universally regarded as the lowest of the low outrages people on a moral level.

    Whites haven’t studied it either nor care about it. The difference in behaviour is probably largely caused by other factors.

    Ok, now I am in high school, and I’ve met a whole five Black people.

    Two tried to steal from me and then picked a fight with me.
    One left me in a park for 45 minutes as a joke.
    Two were grown men who got arrested for having sex with teenage White girls.

    5-5.

    Holy shit LMAO. Conventional HBD is flawed in that it tries to reach these simple facts with flawed means. I think just looking at the data will create the appropriate conservatism against egalitarianism, but it won’t happen by making ridiculous conclusions like most HBD’ers. This does not apply to Normies though – it’s all propaganda there. That Arab Nazi in my school doesn’t even know who Tatu Vanhannen or JP Rushton are, yet he is determined in his beliefs. Granted he is a bit special but I think this analogy holds to show the faith people have in these ideas.

    Most people are somewhat apolitical in Europe though. They may have some positions on some issues, but they are rarely invested in the subjects. IDK if its the same in America.

    This is heartrendingly sad to me because at its root base, at its core, the antiracist project is a noble one. Wouldn’t a society with a diminished degree of racism be a wonderful thing? It would for me. It would be like a dream.

    Interesting, I think the motivations behind moral beliefs are very important as I believe morality is a priori, with its premises built from feelings. I have always been skeptical of “non-racists”, but some White people seem very genuine, like holy shit.

    I was once in the lunchroom with some friends, and my friend who is White as fuck didn’t even understand the fried chicken jokes the other guys were doing in my presence. He also didn’t think calling Chinese people yellow made any sense until I showed him images. In Europe you also find many people not even subscribing to the one-drop rule. Many people cant see my African admixture very clearly lol.

    1. “When I think that these people, my Black friends, will suffer racism, prejudice, unfairness and hate because of things that other people did, it almost makes my blood boil. It’s so wrong.”

      Its even worse when its done against kids who are dependent on their social circle. Adults can handle it somewhat well.

      Fixed.

    2. Rational people exist here, there, and everywhere. They usually correct the irrational. I occasionally ended up on SF searching subjects like Egypt. A Stormfronter will make an outrageous claim and then a realist corrects them. Worse are places where the rational are drowned out. Youtube: Democratic Socialist Convention.

      1. The author of the OP says he meets more Black people who mistreat him or whatever, than Whites – that’s because he is White. Those very same kind, wonderful White people would treat him very differently if he were Black. As a White person I have experienced this and witnessed it.

        I’ve been offered wonderful hospitality by complete White strangers who helped me and some friends when our car broke down, but while we were hanging out, the men laughingly told us they were KKK & if we’d been black we would’ve gotten a very different reception. I’ve had cashiers be patient with me even though I’m fumbling in line, only to be mean & horrible to a black person behind me for no reason.

        In my personal experience, I haven’t been mistreated by more Blacks per capita than Whites.

        1. Blacks are more of a tidal wave, good or bad.

          Asians are like the land.

          Whites are in the middle of both, surfing the wave or relaxing on the calm beach.

          This is my experience exactly.

          With Blacks I’m riding along with their emotion, so I hope they’re happy.

          An Asian will assimilate to me.

          Whites have the most range, so a few outliers will behave closer to Blacks and a White bookworm is closer to an Asian.

        2. Hi, no abbreviations please.

          Thx for the comment, though. I’m not sure how happy you will be here though. I see you are a progressive person. Well, we are on the Left too, but we are Alternative Left or Alt Left. Which basically means that everyone else on the Left hates us LOL.

  2. Yes, I was shocked to find that statistics on Black crime are generally dismissed by Black people — they believe they are rigged by White Supremacists. Black people generally believe that the Black crime rate is no greater or worse than the White crime rate. There is a culture of denial among Blacks that’s not helping them at all.

    1. I agree. That’s not helpful at all. So the statistics are rigged, eh? Jesus. Well if the Black crime rate were the same as the White crime rate, and anti-Black racism was the same as it is now, I would say that would be a real crime in and of itself. It’s one thing to hate people for a reason, even a good reason. It’s another thing altogether to hate people for no good reason at all.

    2. To some degree all groups become defensive when their group is criticized by an outgroup. Especially an outgroup that they’ve had a long and bitter history with, and especially if that outgroup spent centuries as their oppressor.

      Think of it like this, would Palestinians trust criticism of Palestinian behavior coming from Jews? Would Sunnis trust criticism coming from Shia? Would Korean accept criticism coming from Japanese? Hell, even the left and right in this country within the same race won’t listen to each other. A Trumpist does not want to hear criticism of his tribe from some West Coast liberal far outside of his bubble. No matter how valid the criticism is, they will plug their ears and deny it just the way you guys accuse Blacks of doing when presented with facts and evidence.

      Robert…question for you. What are some examples of bad Black behavior that you feel the majority of Blacks are guilty of?

      1. My surprise was to find even blacks full of convicted felons in their own family – with crimes making the news – denying the crime disparity. There is a lot of denial in the black community that is, in my view, unparalleled in other communities of the U.S.

    3. There’s mountains of statistics showing that Black people get arrested more often, & get harsher sentences than Whites. PD in impoverished neighborhoods try to set up a pattern of arrest for young Black people, so when they become adults, it’s easier to incarcerate them if they slip up. So if two White boys get into a fight, it’s “boys will be boys,” while if it’s 2 Black kids, they get arrested.

      If some middle class White kid shoplifts, the cops put a scare into them but don’t arrest them, but they will arrest a young Black kid. Now you take a Black kid who got arrested for shoplifting compared to a White kid who got let off, and now as young adults they get busted for possession of marijuana, one has a record, and the other doesn’t, so criminal justice treats them differently.

      Not to mention all the wrongful arrests, and convictions. If you’re gonna look at statistics you have to look at those too. And as we’ve seen writ large during Trump’s administration, rich White men get far lighter sentences than young Black people.

      How many times have you been let off by a cop? How many times have you been pulled over but not given a ticket? How many times have you been pulled over for nothing? Black people aren’t given a pass for tickets.

      I have a Black friend who’s a good driver. We live in a small rural area with low crime rates, yet she gets pulled over all the time for nothing, meanwhile, the exact same PD has pulled me over multiple times for rolling thru stop signs, & for speeding, but I don’t get tickets, let alone hauled outta my car.

      LE simply does not treat POC & Whites the same. Saying otherwise is ignoring mountains of evidence to the contrary. It amazes me how easily Whites ignore such evidence, when so many stories pop up about POC being arrested for no reason or DNA evidence exonerating black people. There are entire organizations devoted to helping wrongfully imprisoned people, & most of their clients are POC.

  3. They hate Asians quite a bit in redneck areas also – hence teasing of “gook lover” just because I taught school over there. But that might just be confined to really country areas as opposed to places where Blacks are hated, which could be everywhere!

    1. Very few Whites hate Asians. They are likely just teasing you. When a White goes to Asia, many think sex tour. The few that aren’t a fan of Asians are veterans of Vietnam or had extremely bad experiences overseas. Worst they do here is fuck up our Chinese or Thai food order.

  4. Certainly people are also viscous angry at Mexicans in rural areas, so I think it just boils down to xenophobia in many cases, but I suppose the argument is they’re taking jobs, like Blacks are causing mischief.

  5. It would be something to say that people hated Blacks for how they acted and for no other reason, and also it would explain why they hated other groups too.

    Nonetheless, it seem like the US has so many pockets of White chauvinist assholes who simply hate anything different mainly only because it’s different. For instance, teasing me with “gook lover” when obviously there is no way “gooks” could have done bad behavior to agitate some dumbasses in hick USA.

    The same goes with other races. You go into a Black neighborhood and then some dick will call you honky (usually), cracker or something simply cause you’re a “fish out of water”, no other reason. I mean, maybe the Black guy had bad experiences with Whites in prison or something, I don’t know, but I’m betting “no”. Probably such a guy had lived among Blacks his whole life getting his only trouble from other Blacks.

  6. Appalachia full of White bullies who make fun of and bully Whites who like Blacks – and probably like to bully Blacks also. OK, there are no Blacks in Appalachia to hate, no significant number. So it all boils down to “fish out of water” – people just bullying whatever is different.

    Saw that in Korea also. “Bin Laden” comments, “Go home” comments, “Fuck you” remarks, “Shit American” remarks…Glaring…I mean, come on. I don’t suck that bad. I’m not that ugly! 😆

    1. Just embrace who and where you. They’re not glaring, those are fuck-me eyes. Go warsh some hot chicken down with moonshine on a mountain.

  7. Honestly, there’s good reason to hate a lot of Blacks, maybe most, but if someone gave into it, they would be as evil as the Blacks or worse in a strange way.

    That’s why the best call is to stay out of politics and society as much as is possible.

  8. Experiences indeed. One WN gal I talked to was gagged with a jizz-covered sock and gangraped by Blacks. Hell, even the cool Blacks Robert meets can’t keep their paws off underage White girls. My Black uncle is a model black in a lot of ways, but I’ve seen him rub one of my cousin’s underage butt. Are above average Blacks more likely to molest underage Whites? There seems to be a pattern and seeing is believing.

    1. A lot of unscientific hate. Well, true to some degree – but honestly, the white race is full of rapists and molesters like everyone.

      But always the question, “What can you do about it? (the blacks)”. You can’t do anything about it, and getting obsessed with it (racist indoctrination) makes you as evil as the certain blacks you speak of.

      Now, of course, whites gang-raped by blacks hate blacks just like Koreans who had their girls ran over by tanks hate Americans. But does this mean all Americans are evil?

      1. Koreans don’t have to put up with our shit either. Cane the White barbarians of Asia and put them to work in the rice fields! We all know Blacks rape at high rates, more than any other race. Would you rather have an above average Black drive your drunk underage sister home or Ned Flanders? I’m not arguing Blacks are evil. Maybe it’s high testosterone, less empathy, an obsession with Whites, etc.

    2. LOL you can’t molest a teenage girl. You can only molest little girls. Use another word please. Like “have sex with” LOL.

        1. Poor impulse control. It’s been documented and it’s genetic. Google candy bar test. Done multiple times in the Southern US and Caribbean over the years, same result every time. 6 year old children. Pure genetics.

          1. Mischel found that the Black kids did, indeed, prefer immediate gratification to delayed gratification. What he also found was that there was a correlation between having a father at home and being able to delay gratification. Children with dads at home could delay gratification better – and this was true regardless of the race of the kids. So it hasn’t been established that this phenomenon is purely genetic.

        1. Oh that’s right. I call them Forever Children (TM). Hell, all women are Forever Children nowadays LOL. That’s why you hear now about grown women getting molested (LOL) and even groomed (double LOL). I mean I wish it were true. I mean wouldn’t it be cool if you could say, “Come here little girl. I want to give you some candy,” to some hot woman? And she does it? And then fuck her clueless ass just like that?

          Ah, I’m dreamin’. Sorry folks.

  9. Antiracists are giving a green light for Black malignant narcissism. Well, that’s no more O.K. then the way White Supremacists feel towards Blacks.

    Yeah, of course antiracists putting up with any MN from anyone are cucks. I agree with that – LOL !!

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