Tulio: To some degree all groups become defensive when their group is criticized by an outgroup. Especially an outgroup that they’ve had a long and bitter history with, And especially, especially if that outgroup spent centuries as their oppressor.
Think of it like this, would Palestinians trust criticism of Palestinian behavior coming from Jews? Would Sunnis trust criticism coming from Shias? Would Korean accept criticism coming from Japanese? Hell, even the left and the right in this country within the same race won’t listen to each other. A Trumpist does not want to hear criticism of his tribe from some west coast liberal far outside of his bubble. No matter how valid the criticism is they will plug their ears and deny it just the way you guys accuse blacks of doing when presented with facts and evidence.
Robert…question for you. What are some examples of bad black behavior that you feel the majority of blacks are guilty of?
You may find this hard to believe but I would say in general, nothing!
For Black women, I would say that far too many of them have a whorish, prostitute-type attitude towards sex to where they think there are price tags on the vaginas and they should charge men for every sex act. I am not even going to say this is genetic. I am going to pin it on Black culture having this permissive attitude towards prostitution to where this culture apparently thinks it is perfectly acceptable for Black women to be literal whores in one way or another. Now obviously many Black women don’t do this. Alpha doesn’t have this mindset at all. In fact, she has the opposite mindset. But far too many Black women do. And that would be my complaint about them right there – a whorish and transactional attitude towards heterosexual sex.
The majority? Tulio, it’s not even the majority! That’s the problem. It’s not so much that the majority of Blacks act bad! I doubt if the majority of Blacks do act bad. But it’s more that there is a minority of them who act bad and that minority is far too many of them. There are just far too many people in this ethnic group who act bad compared to other groups. The high rate of bad behavior ends up making dealing with the group as a whole something of a minefield.
Of course there are plenty of Black people who act fine but there are so many bad actors that you have tread very carefully to sort out of the good from the bad, and it’s not completely obvious who is a good actor and who is a bad actor. At some point one tires of walking through minefields sidestepping human landmines, and you start to think that the whole group is too much of a risk because of all the bad actors.
And if you are a like me, you mostly just don’t have much to do with Black people anymore. Of course I sympathize with them, I wish to help them, and I even work on their political campaigns where their demands are reasonable. My favorite group in Congress is the Black Congressional Caucus. I am on the mailing list for several Black political groups, and I am happy to participate in their campaigns. Overt racism and discrimination against Blacks in housing, jobs, voting, and so many other things outrages and infuriates me on a primal level, and I resolve to work to right these wrongs. But as far as dealing with the group, I often just think they are too much trouble and too risky to deal with, so I just opt out of dealing with them much. I’m willing to help them completely from a distance, but getting too close to them seems to risky.
The problem with Black people isn’t with the Black middle class, which is now quite large. I’m not aware that they act bad. In fact, the ones I knew, mostly schoolteachers, seem to act very good. Most Blacks I worked with were competent, friendly, good workers, and generally good, decent people. I haven’t seen much of the Black incompetence or slovenliness in the workplace that you hear so much about, but then Black schoolteachers and administrators are a pretty select group.
The problem is what Alpha calls the low class Blacks, who are more or less what we call ghetto people, even though most do not even live in the hood. Yet they have “hood” behaviors. We Whites hate most Blacks with that “hood” attitude, period! They’re infuriating, most simply because to us they are unspeakably rude. I am not even talking about crime or serious bad behavior. I am talking about very low level stuff, but these are such politeness violations for Whites that they send us through the roof.
Low class Blacks borrow money and never pay it back. They borrow very small sums like $5-25, and then never pay it back. In White culture, this is considered to be an outrage. In my complex here there was a young White man who was for all intents and purposes a complete wigger. He was poor and he lived with his Hispanic wife and their little kid. Now and again he borrowed some very small sums of money from money. He always paid me back! He told me, “This is how I was raised. You always pay back.” Sometimes it would take him a month or two to pay me back, but there he would be, two months later, at my door with $25 in his hand.
At my previous location I lived with poor and working class Whites. Now and then some of them borrowed money from me. One woman borrowed $25 and then paid it back a month later with interest! There was one White woman who was a very trashy person who had descended pretty low. She borrowed $5 from me and then never paid it back. That is considered horribly low in White culture. If it’s your last $5, you pay it back. With the Whites I hang out with, that White woman would be called a nigger.
We would essentially throw her out of the White race because one of the qualifications for being White is paying back when you borrow, especially small sums because they can be easily paid back. If you can’t do that, we say you’re not White anymore, and we will refer to you disparagingly as a nigger. Not even as a Black person. That’s too good for them. We call them niggers, which just means low class or ghetto Blacks of a particularly obnoxious type who we really despise. It’s not a word we use much because it seems like such an ugly word, but if there is a Black person who know and really despise on a personal level, we will refer to them as that word. But at the same time, referring to the whole race with that word outrages us. It’s a grotesquerie, so backwards, hick, cracker and racist that it’s profoundly offensive.
The main problem is absolutely grotesque rudeness. This type of Black person is unspeakably rude. They are manipulative and they only show up at your house if they want to obviously use you for something. In White culture, that is grotesquely rude. A White person who did that, once again, would be considered a nigger and would be essentially evicted from the White race. You don’t get to be White automatically just because of the color of your skin. Whiteness is considered an honor and ideally it is something to be earned. You earn Whiteness by adhering to some rather stringent moral standards. If you can be decent enough to do that, then you are rewarded with Whiteness.
Violation of A Man’s Home Is His Castle Principle
They come into your house and immediately start pointing out stuff and saying, “Give me this” or “Give me that.” I can’t even put into words how rude that is! I’ve known thousands of Whites in my life, and no White person has ever been that rude! You can’t do that. A man’s home is his castle. You have no right to ask for anything in a man’s house. I believe you can request a glass of water, but you can’t really ask for anything else. If your host is drinking something, you may ask for some of what he is having, but you have to ask in a very kiss ass, submissive sort of way. And this type of Black, as soon as they set foot in the door, immediately demand that I give them a drink of whatever alcohol I had.
The one woman I knew who did this most of all was a former schoolteacher, and two of her daughters were at university. One graduated and the other was still in school. So she’s a middle class Black. But even she was horrifyingly rude. Alpha likes to claim she’s an outlier, but I didn’t get that impression. Instead it seemed that this was just typical behavior in her culture. I don’t think she’s all that different from the rest of her ilk. I have met others on her level, and they acted about as bad as she does.
As I said, I have never met one White person who has ever done that in my entire life. I asked around to my friends, and they said a lot of Black people do that. You invite them into your house, and they start saying, “Give me this,” or “Give me that.” Or they say, “Sell me this” or “Sell me that.” and then they offer far too low of a price. This is often done by a young Black male and is accompanied by a sense of menace. It’s basically a shakedown because he’s offering you way less money than the thing is worth.
Use of Seduction To Steal from You
A Black woman came up to me at the store and acted very seductive. She asked me to buy her a bottle of booze. I didn’t really want to, but I ended up buying her an $8 bottle of booze. The implication was that there would be something in it for me.
Then she wanted a ride. As I said, I wanted something out of it, so I tried to get my end of the deal. As I was driving, I tried to feel her tits, but she freaked out and kept knocking me hand away so it turned into a bit of a wrestling match. Fortunately the #metoo police were not called, and I did get to cop a feel. We got to her house and she pretty much ran inside. I felt like she completely ripped me off.
No White woman has ever done anything like that to me in my entire life. For a White woman to do something like that would be the lowest of the lowest of low behavior. It’s on the level of snails that crawl on the ground. That’s how low it is.
Even if a White woman stooped so low as to ask you to buy her a bottle, she would be expected to invite you in, share the bottle with you, and not necessarily have sex with you but maybe let you cop a feel or make out with you on the couch, something like that. There’s a sense of reciprocity with Whites. With Blacks like that, there’s no reciprocity, and often it just feels like an out and out ripoff. They more or less shamelessly steal petty amounts of money from people and never pay it back and it doesn’t bother their conscience one bit.
Abuse of Asking for Rides and Favors
The Black woman upstairs and her friend asked me a for a ride and then completely used me. They ignored me the whole time and talked in ghetto dialect which might as well have been Greek. They went inside some store and didn’t invite me and then left me in my car waiting for an hour. There was no sense that they imposed on me. I forget what happened but I think I finally just left, and they were furious. They also borrowed $5 which was never returned.
I later saw the neighbor’s friend out in front of the local market with another Black woman, both dressed up like prostitutes on a Saturday night. The neighbor herself was said to be a former call girl, and her former boyfriend was a pimp. Her current boyfriend beat her up on a regular basis. You could hear wild fights a lot, and the mother would come over and shout it out with the boyfriend. Later I heard he was in jail.
One day parole officers came to the neighbor’s house looking for the neighbor’s boyfriend. The PO’s told me, “He’s just a pimp.” I have met two Black pimps since I moved here. Blacks are 4% of this town and 100% of the pimps. Those were two of the slimiest, sleaziest, oiliest men I have ever met. I’ve never heard of any non-Black pimps in this town.
Prostitution and General Whorish Attitude towards Sex
Although Blacks are only 4% of town, they make up ~75% of the streetwalkers. No Hispanic woman walks the streets here. Some whore but they do it in a very sly level that more akin to transactional dating. Or they operate out of bars in what also looks like transactional dating. It seems like no decent Hispanic woman would ever walk the streets. But these Black women walk the streets here utterly shamelessly without a care in the world, like there’s nothing wrong with it.
I met a number of Black women in dating sites, and over and over, they turned out to be prostitutes. Some even wanted to date, but they also did prostitution. Others wanted to trade me dirty pics for fancy clothing. I got quite a few offers to be a sugar daddy if I had the money. I can’t do it because I am broke. Maybe 75% of the sugar baby offers were from Black women. These were much more civilized and better acting Black women. Two were at university. Yet there was this same attitude that being a whore is a perfectly respectable thing to do.
I had a Black girlfriend once and she practically charged me every time I had sex with her. I almost wanted to leave a $20 bill on the bed stand after I was done. After a while, she cut off the sex, but she still charged me just to come over and talk to her. I always had to take her to dinner or brunch or whatever. She made more than I did, but I had to pay for everything. I told my White friends about her, and they said, “She was nothing but a whore.” This was a very respectable Black woman, dressed well, schoolteacher, graduated from university, married to a physician when I was dating here, but she was for all intents and purposes nothing but a whore.
I wrote an article on this previously that I have never seen a race of women who shamelessly whore themselves out in one way or another as much as Black women. It’s disgusting. I’m going to say that Black culture simply tells Black women that it’s perfectly ok to be a whore. It tells them that their pussies have price tags on them and that they should charge men every time they fuck a man. I’m not going to say this is genetic. I’m simply going to argue that this culture apparently thinks being a goddamned whore is a perfectly respectable thing to be. And I would argue that a culture that does that is a lousy culture and it offends me on a very deep and basic level.
I don’t think you realize how disgusting White people think whores are. They are the lowest of the low to us. There’s nothing lower than a whore. It’s a like a human slug crawling along the sidewalk, leaving slime in its trail. No self-respecting White woman whores herself out openly. I have known White women that worked as strippers, but even they could not be call girls. And they had friends who did it. It was just too low, too below their morals.
In US Asian culture, there’s nothing lower than a whore.
In US Hispanic culture, your average self-respecting Hispanic woman thinks whores are disgusting. A decent Hispanic girl would rather die than be a prostitute. They even have a saying in Spanish called, a woman of the streets. An Hispanic woman will call a low-class Hispanic woman a woman of the streets. She’s calling her a street whore. It’s the lowest things you can be.
So with low-class or ghetto Blacks, which in my estimate are over 50% of the population, they are rude, low-class petty thieves who grotesquely use and manipulate others, borrow money with no intention to pay it back, ask for rides and then treat the driver with utter callousness and inconsideration, prostitute themselves openly, often as streetwalkers at very high levels, and make up an outrageous overrepresentation of the pimps. They walk into your house and outrageously demand that you give them your stuff for free! They also demand drinks, alcohol if you have it.
What this all boils down to is unspeakably rudeness!
Black men, I don’t really deal with them too much. The ghetto ones are nothing but trouble, so I won’t deal with them at all. I won’t get involved with them, so they don’t affect me, but from afar, their behavior doesn’t look real good. Obviously if you look at statistics and hear stories, these Black men act pretty bad, but I don’t have enough personal experience with Black men to make any serious critique of their behavior. The Black men I have known all acted good because I was very selective about the ones I befriended. The non-ghetto or middle class Black men seem to act quite good. I’ve mostly had good experiences with them. I actually think they act better than the women, many of whom are nothing but glorified prostitutes.