NATO, the WTO, and the Prospects for Resistance to US-EU Militarized Economic Hegemony (the Axis of Resistance)

Interesting comment from a reader.

Thinking Mouse: But the enemies of NATO are corrupt crooks at worst and non-pragmatic idealists at worst.
I think historical materialism influences morality too, we don’t posses our beliefs, but our beliefs posses us, and beliefs live upon the technology of an certain mode of production. On a positive note, the world does seem to become more multipolar with the emergence of China, Turkey, Japan, Russia, India and large parts of Africa. I don’t think these nations will get Independence, but just more fair deals with America thanks to their ability to defend themselves.
Eventually when technology and infrastructure spread across the world, will the proletariat take their fare share from the petit and normal bourgeoisie!
Africa might have large riots about tax evasion and the WTO´s forced laissez faire in 20-40 years, or maybe anti corruption will be more gradual.

First of all, I would like to thank the comrade for his excellent comment. It is smart and informed comments like these that make this site so great.
Who are the enemies of NATO? Venezuela, Russia, Belarus, Turkey, Syria, Iran? Anybody else? Who cares if they are corrupt? Nations have a right to self-determination. Anyway, a lot of NATO allies and even members are corrupt and even murderous or genocidal.

“China, Turkey, Japan, Russia, India and large parts of Africa”

Exactly. This is why Russia is so important. China is not allied with NATO at all. Isn’t Japan a de facto NATO ally or member? And isn’t India a NATO ally? Turkey is a NATO member that is now on the outs with the rest of the alliance. It’s still the Sick Man of Europe after all these centuries. I agree a lot of Europe seems to be not actively allied with NATO. What about Egypt and Sudan? Haven’t they signed on to the anti-Iran bullshit?

“Eventually when technology and infrastructure spread across the world, will the proletariat take their fare share from the petit and normal bourgeoisie!”

We can only hope, comrade! Or barring that, at least dream. Instead of ruling society, I think proletarians should aim for something a lot lower – simply getting something more like their fair share in society.

Africa might have large riots about tax evasion and the WTO´s forced laissez faire in 20-40 years, or maybe anti corruption will be more gradual.

Corruption is endemic in all of Black Africa, is it not? Tax evasion? You mean African elites do not pay their fair share? How long has the WTO been enforcing neoliberalism in Africa? I thought only the IMF could do that. Why would the riots be 30 years off instead of sooner?

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16 thoughts on “NATO, the WTO, and the Prospects for Resistance to US-EU Militarized Economic Hegemony (the Axis of Resistance)”

  1. “First of all, I would like to thank the comrade for his excellent comment. It is smart and informed comments like these that make this site so great.”
    Its an honor, never saw this comming. Its cool to see an guy like you want to publish my stuff.
    “Who are the enemies of NATO? Venezuela, Russia, Belarus, Turkey, Syria, Iran? Anybody else? Who cares if they are corrupt? Nations have a right to self-determination. Anyway, a lot of NATO allies and even members are corrupt and even murderous or genocidal.”
    Venezuela, Belarus, Russia, Zimbabwe, Cambodia, Taliban in Afghanistan, Boko Haram, Kurdish nationalists, (since we wanny be buddies with Turkey) Syria, Iran, Lybia, Iraq, Kazakstan, Ukraine, Moldova, Bolivia, FARC, Cuba, Serbia, Russia, China, North korea, Yemen, Palestine, and Pakistan.
    With some of these nations (Russia, China, North Korea, Kurdish nationalists, Ukraine, FARC, Kazakstan, Pakistan and maybe Iran) there is going to be peace and sanctions/proxy wars. I dont see straight out war as good for any factions elites, as well as trade or peace benefiting both. Nato is allinged with Pakistan on some goals and against on others, Pakistan also likes China a bit, more on china in the next paragraph.
    Some are just bad for buissness and are going to be hurt or even slaughtered: Yemen, Lybia (has already happened), Iraq (has already happened), Boko Haram the Taliban and maybe Venezuella.
    “Exactly. This is why Russia is so important. China is not allied with NATO at all. Isn’t Japan a de facto NATO ally or member? And isn’t India a NATO ally? Turkey is a NATO member that is now on the outs with the rest of the alliance. It’s still the Sick Man of Europe after all these centuries. I agree a lot of Europe seems to be not actively allied with NATO. What about Egypt and Sudan? Haven’t they signed on to the anti-Iran bullshit?”
    China is bound to face huge challenges in the near future. These are indeed related to a population that’s way too old for a country that’s not yet developed, job losses due to automation and competition from lower wages countries, under-developed domestic market, financial bubbles threatening to burst, brain drain, environmental damage, geopolitical hazards, rising contestation of the regime, minority rights, and terrorism to quote just a few issues. China also hides much of its growth stats, its not as large as the government data says, yet its formidable. Chinas human capital is going to skyrocket, its land military very powerfull, its navy about 10-25% that of the USA (judgement based on intuition lol), its influence rise in Russia and central asia through trading natural resources (seen with the oil deals, and china sending aid to central asian armies), perhaps mediate politics in Iran and therefore Iraq, this would have the added effect of making Russia seem more influenncial in the region to what it actually is, giving the Russian elite more incentive to be nice towards china as china would give the Russian anti Nato sentiment more legitemacy.
    ( For example china is an major trade partner to Iran, the most powerfull dictatorship to give legitemacy to the current Iranian government, has an interets in securing iranian minerals and north persian gulf oil which includes Iraq, has influence over the west as it manufactures so much stuff and has an image of being powerfull for the masses). China, with its new middle class, higher wages and aging demographics is going to need to find labour in the povery ridden areas of china, East africa, and central asia, but more importantly, it needs natural resources from these areas (throught decrasing export taxes, and so it will need to compete against the West to get them, but also create an sophisticated enough system inside the foreign countries to stop insurgencies. Just look at how Tibet is viewed, its an hard task. China will also need to keep its legitemacy inside the country, it will achieve that by building large buildings, having fascist-style propaganda about “the chinese dream” and faking data about Gdp growth.
    The chinese elite will take their share of the world, yet still be friendly with america as NATO has the largest navy and controls the southern atlantic. Which is vital thanks to the DRC´s extraaction of cobalt. DRC might become more important than Saudi arabia one day, the ultimate leverage for Nato against any modern power. China will also be nice thanks to all the trade of course.
    I think Russia is limited in its abilities, its aging, has low productivity, cant compete against other countries in manufacturing, has a bunch of organized crime, an very competent elite that live of the government and reources, Brain drain, military with old equipment, only decent airforce (compared to the total domiNATOn that the US maintains), immigration from poor countries and an economy suffreing after Obama sanctions. Its powerfull to defend itself, controll Belarus, kazakstan and possibly Ukraine.
    The russian intelligence agencies and Putin himself are fucking genius, just look at how they are manipulating the media, or manipulated W Bush and perhaps Trump, superb performance. The issue is that Putin is going to die one day (imagine how shocking that day will be), and then shit will get real, or maybe not, as Putin maybe has prepared something if he is an true patriot. Russia is competing over china about central asia, so its relationship with China is going to be like its relationship with the EU, some trade between criminals, large resource exports some military show boasting and lines drawn on the sand.
    India is Nato friendly for now, but its hostility against Pakistan, China and arms imports from russia might change that if India ever feels threatend by chinas encroachments. Maybe that would give Russia an larger levarage in Central Asia. Maybe that would mean more NATO-Indian cooperation if NATO gets pissy about China.
    I think the reason you have to ask why i mentioned India and Japan is becuase i wasnt clear enough by what i meant by “multipolar”. What i meant was what nationality/geographical origin will the elites who influence global politics have. And in the past it was 80% (judging grosly by the total share of global GDP of the west during the early 20th century) the white man, like our jewish friends like to tell us, but i think that trend will change to have transnational and national elites negotiate and compete. When the infranstructure exists, trade and cooperation will be preferable, the opportunity cost of not killing your enemies will decrease.
    Therefore Japan was mentioned as its increasing military spending.
    Turkey is not the sick man of europe, its GDP per capita has 3+ folded and its population is 80 million, its army is proabably going to be like 40% as strong as russias, if not more as its GDP per capita might surpass Russia one day. It has an healthy and poductive median age of 30 and an fertility rate of 2 (though decreasing). They have an standing army of 600,000 men.
    I worry about it going more right-wing since the glory days of Ataturk, but the country is urbanazing, urbanaization being correlated with liberalism, we can hope for the best. The reason they are so pushy on NATO is becuase its doing nothing about Turkeys 3,5+ million Syrian refugees, its getting tiresome for erdogan.
    Europe Definately works with NATO, i dont get what your saying when you say that they dont work “activelly”.
    Egypt and Sudan joining Saudi arabia and Israel is fine, but i fear the potencial radicalism associated with the wahabi school being in Egypt, as its population is young and poor, impressionable in an increasingly more islamophobic world, and with all of the shipping goiing through the nile.
    Im pretty anti Iran as well, i just dont think Israel is the solution LOL.
    I dont belive in national sovereignty, as trade increases the state/fisical policy should. Western and Central europe should unite, Southern west africa should unite It makes too much sense.
    “Eventually when technology and infrastructure spread across the world, will the proletariat take their fare share from the petit and normal bourgeoisie!”
    “We can only hope, comrade! Or barring that, at least dream. Instead of ruling society, I think proletarians should aim for something a lot lower – simply getting something more like their fair share in society.”
    I dont know a lot about economics, but for me it seems like:
    Liassez faire: Slave colony or irrelevant country side.
    Small welfare state: Civilised, a government where the advanced elite work in conspiracies instead of violence. sizeble amounts of tax fraud.
    Big welfare state: Advanced economy,
    Corruption makes everything not work.
    Low HDI or Material conditions (not to be confused with natural resources as the resource trap exists): correlates with corruption as the population doesnt care about things outside of the family and friends, worry that revolution will just lead to violence with no beeter leadership at the end, which is true since there are too little educated people to take care of corruption and no money or incentive to solve it.
    Do you know anything about corruption? is there an field of study? would be interested.
    Racial/religious diversity: Bad effect on many markers of an healthy country, the severity ocrrelates greatly on how low the HDI or material conditions are but the effect is negligable when everyone is wealhty and raised in the same neighborhood. Sometimes Race/religion gets correlated with class, then shit gets real as you have classism and racism work together, an ugly picture indeed.
    “Corruption is endemic in all of Black Africa, is it not? Tax evasion? You mean African elites do not pay their fair share? How long has the WTO been enforcing neoliberalism in Africa? I thought only the IMF could do that. Why would the riots be 30 years off instead of sooner?”
    Sorry i meant the IMF.
    Ive heard the almost homogenious nation states of Rawanda and Botswana arent that corrupt or atleast exceptionall for third world countries standards. Those countries seem pretty Liassez faire so beware. Haha, fun rhyme, Liassez faire… BEWARE!!
    Anyhow, ill qoute myself to explain why it will be in 30 years:
    “Low HDI or Material conditions (not to be confused with natural resources as the resource trap exists): correlates with corruption as the population doesnt care about things outside of the family and friends, worry that revolution will just lead to violence with no better leadership at the end, which is true since there are too little educated people to take care of corruption and no money or incentive to solve it.” Id also like to add that Africa is rising in HDI, tertairy education and the likes, but is still doesnt have the right mterial conditions for an welfare capitalist mode of production.
    https://ourworldindata.org/global-rise-of-education
    https://ourworldindata.org/primary-and-secondary-education
    https://ourworldindata.org/tertiary-education
    Note that most of the growth was in the 21th century, and that african tertiary education actually is pretty high quality (which is why african immigrant students dont underperform).
    My worry is that the ethnic diversity and extreme clasism that exist withing africa will make the continent create extreme amounts of violence, killing foreign investments, infranstructure, people and increasing poverty and fertility rates. Class and ethnicity, just like the “indepent” African nations had civil wars during the cold war. THe poverty ridden muslim nigerians have twice as many kids as the wealtheir christian population that has access to the oil, and the chrisitans can be pretty Islamophobic, spooky.
    The good news is that there isnt a lot of violence today and that a lot of small african ethnic groups are integrating, urbanisation is making them wealther and more liberal, theres and construction boom, fertility rates are going down.

  2. I frogot to awnser this:
    “Who cares if they are corrupt? Nations have a right to self-determination. Anyway, a lot of NATO allies and even members are corrupt and even murderous or genocidal”
    They would becorrupt either way. I think some of the countries would be wealthier if remiaing conquered (Iran, Algeria etc) and that some are unfixable at the moment. The thing is that they would do the same thing if the amount of resources were flipped between the sides.
    The right to national self determination is given by the people and the elite. The issue is that transnational trade is so much larger today that we need to unify some nations, they pretty much are unified with an lie of democracy. Nationalism is an concept most popular during the 20th century, when comunication lines were worse and transportation more expensive, its for another mode of production, not modern and now emerging in the third world, Africa most notably (whith the integration and mixing of cultures to form larger groups in urban communities). Nationalism is industralisation at best and Lumpenproletariat at worst.
    The only types of nationalism i can accept are racial, religious and economic class, as those effect the health of the nation. Anything else sounds alien and retarded to me, born inside an advanced economy. Maybe the things above will be irrelevant one day, IDK i think the magic of historical materialism will deicde.

  3. Is it ok for me to belive in leftist economics yet still agree on many points with the neocons when it comes (rhyme, hah) to foreign policy?
    Conservative opinions I like:
    -Occupaton of Palestine.
    -bombing of Yemen.
    -Invasion of Iraq.
    -Invasion of Lybia.
    -Anti Hamas and Hezbollah sentiment.
    -Pre-coup Erdogan (he has one of the rails now).
    -France´s colonization of Algeria.
    Now these things arent perfect, but optimal compared to the other alternatives.
    -Agression against Russia regarding Ukraine, id prefer to have an referendum in Ukraine about EU membership, to give NATO aggression legitemacy. The issue with this is that the european comision isnt clear on whether it wants Ukraine in the EU. I want to replace all of the non-white subsidies/investing (welfare for children, loans for adults) with EU subsidies and troops in eastern europe, LEBENSRAUM!!!.
    https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/more-than-half-of-ukrainians-want-to-join-eu-poll-shows-32735
    The liberal foreign policies I agree with are:
    -Legalization of drugs (affecting latin america).
    -Diplomacy with Iran (im a big fan of Obamas negotiations about the nuke thing.).
    -Ok with leaving Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine to russia (ukraine would already be lossing an shit ton of people to russia anyway through emigration) as long as it leads to EU membership of Ukraine,

    1. Correction: not all non white subsidies should be replaced, but most, especially those comming from recent immigrants. Immigrants should be payed to move to better neighborhoods and work/educate themselves in subjects that have at least decent market value. Those subsidies that are about taking in more non-skilled immigrants are retarded.

  4. I wonder if im too autistic or if others are retarded sometimes.
    For example:
    I think that the Syrian refugee crisis could be an GREAT leverage (and therefore BENEFIT) for the western world. How? Well, a lot of Turks are antaonistic to the alevies in the eastern parts, as they are non Sunni Kurds, so to import 4-13 million sunni levantines to Turkey would give the Sunni majority an great advantage in elections and ethnic representation, especially if the Syrians are sent to the eastern parts, to replace the Kurds in their own lands. Idealy, theyd be concentrated in western turkish kurdistan, to create an sunni supermajority and COMPLETELY destroy large parts to turkish kurdistan, the richest areas in fact.
    The Jews would work their magic to make Kurds seem like XENOPHOBES and make the EU/NA pay subsidies for infranstructure and the refugees to get an education as well as ample food, making it preferable to syria. This would lower Syrias population and therefore Assads influence, so its even militarily beneficial to NATO agaisnt Russia, This would make the Jews gladly work for the above named goals, it would be good for Israel not only in making Syria weaker but also be an amazing opportunity to take the Golan heights and distract the media from Palestine with the conflicts in Kurdistan.
    The tuskish elites would know that its Israel and EU doing this, so Erdogan might respect us and not go crazy, having his ego needs being stroked by being remebered as an great economist that made the Turkish population 10 million people stronger.
    Refutations against this could be:
    -That people would agrue that the kurds would realize quickly,
    I say that they wouldnt, and that having millions come in a few years would be to fast for kurdish nationalists to react correctly, especially with Jews making us westerners side with the refugees.
    -That the refugess would be sent to western Turkey and not replace the Kurds with kurds complaining:
    The Jewish media would fix this, theyd say that all other countries are too small (Lebanon) or too fragile/violent (Iraq or Palestine) or too far away where families could be seperated or suffer on the way (western Turkey, the gulf states Egypy and Iran), also make Kurdish complaints seem like xenophobia.
    With western subsidies theyd (the Syrians) become equal to turks anyways and make Sunni islam more prevalent.
    Too bad nobody here is awnsering my comments, they are pretty cool.

    1. Another good result for turkey by concentrating the migrants in western kurdish lands is concquering the bases of the euphrates and tigris rivers, meaning domination over Iraq and Syria if practized correctly, meaning in synthesis with european bribing and oil extraction and military co-operation.

  5. About american intervention in Iran:
    For it to work it will have to be done soon as chinas army is getting stronger, but maybe not yet as the destabilization of russia is ongoing, making the opportunitis better as time progresses. Perhaps after putin dies (unless the russian elite hide life lenghening methods lol), unless he starts making russia stable again, but then theres always the option of subsidissing nuclear or green energy at the cost of russian oil exporters, as well as importing oil from Norway and the gulf states.
    An total occupation of Persia is ridicolous however, as it would be an hardcore war at the rough mountains of Persia, i recoment taking the wealthy neighboring regions that encompas ethnic minorities. These ethnic minorities are even seperated geographically (which is the reason for these groups existing despite continous invasions from persia), making infranstructure projects to areas outside of Persia cheaper. These regions are also smaller with less of an population (easier to occupy long term) while being less mountenous in the south.The most important region would be southern Iran with its Arabic minorities, as those regions contain most of Irans oil (HUGE AMOUNTS OF OIL).
    The Jews would have to propegate propaganda about Persian Shias discriminating against Sunni minorities. The CIA and the rest of the western mafia would then also need to covertly fund sunni terrorists (aka freedom fighters) to make Iranian officials wary and look malevolent in the eyes of brainwashed western people. Thinking about it, Syria might just be an operation by Mossad and the CIA to make europeans more conservative (and pro israel) and to test the limits of propaganda about foreign policy. Stuff like this would be pushed, but more sensationall with more lies: https://www.iranhumanrights.org/category/issues/ethnic-discrimination/
    Other propaganda could be allegations of Iranian corruption, especially as the Iranian elite start getting in bed with the Chinese elite.
    The azeri population could be used as an bargaining tool to azerbajan, the trade would be: Give us your political sovereinity and oil in the caspian, and we will give you an larger population and afluence to your elite population.
    Kurdish seperatism would be an hard sale for turkey, so maybe the Kurdish regions would be partitioned by turkey and Iraq.

    1. https://cdn.howmuch.net/articles/world-map-of-oil-exports-b851.jpg
      So those 46 and 29 from iraq and iran respectively could be spent on infranstructure, occupation and rebuilding (also with the middle east gaining significant revenue from european immigration, even Saddam had some immigration), and be more oil per capita for the hypothetically non-iranian nations as the large persian population wouldnt be included. Meaning that Iraq and western Iran could be wealthy like saudi arabia one day, especially with infranstructure spending.

    2. Look, I cannot have you advocating for US imperialism in any way, shape or form, sorry. And you cannot support the Israeli Cancer either. I ban on both of those things, sorry. You also can’t support the CIA, lying propaganda campaigns or any other sleazy Realpolitik garbage.

      1. Is it ok if i create my own WordPress where i write the realpolitik while i talk about leftist goals here? And also, these are not normative claims based on my preference, but rahter seing it from their perspective. Preferably, id have China take Kurdistan, Iraq, Iran, pakistan, lebanon and Afghanistan to get an grip over natural resources but also to give the whole world incentives to rep up the third world economically.
        Could you please do an in depth critique of realpolitik? I find it very important as it talks about the locus of control in politics, in really interested in your opinion.

        1. Of course. I don’t care what you write over there. It’s not important.
          Yeah, it’s amoral. Worse, it’s IMMORAL. Deeply, profoundly, unspeakably, immoral on an almost pure Satanic level. It’s sleazy and dirty and based on deliberately lying all the time, fakery, false flags and every sleazy, dirty, slimy game humans can think up. It’s the work of the Devil Himself.

  6. Heres an map about how an effective foreign policy by Nato would roughly look like:
    https://imgur.com/a/BmGnv63
    Yellow for syrian settlement.
    Blue for Iraq.
    Green for turkey, but also palestine in the future (sorry i messed up a little with the colouring).
    Pink for arabs.
    lime green for Pakistan.
    Brown for the lurs people.
    Orange for azerbajan.
    beige for areas with kurdish seperatism.
    Military blue for Israel.

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