Letter from Nepal: Brahminism in Nepal

Interesting comment from a Brahmin from Nepal:

– Owing to the good climate (weaker selection pressure), there are vast amounts of low IQ people present who were well adapted to their ways of life, but with globalization and a supremacy of Ice-People Culture, how would you even solve this problem ( given e.g. Greece is a problem state for EU)?

Thanks. I have no idea how to solve the problem of differential IQ’s among races and nations. Also Greeks do not have an IQ problem as compared to the rest of Europe.

– The least trustworthy people tend to be North Indians ( I’m excluding Nepali Brahmins from this group)- why is this?

I don’t know. I think there’s something wrong with them.  These groups were the original Aryan conquerors. They came in, conquered the natives, slaughtered them horrifically in doing so, and then imposed one of the worst forms of race-based enslavement and hierarchy the world has ever seen. All the while justifying it and cementing it in with religion. Historically speaking, North Indians have not been very nice people. In fact, their history is of being monsters. Now they’re not trustworthy probably because the lie, cheat, and steal. With a history like theirs, why should we expect less?

– Higher IQ people/ruling classes always exploit the natural resources as well as the local human resources- and the position of Brahmans is like that of South African whites post-apartheid. Clinging on to their power and privileges but constantly feeling threatened- this kind of insecure ruling group devolves into nasty survival tactics and turn their own country into shitholes. Over generations, this kind of thinking becomes endemic as the culture- and I agree Indian culture (and Nepal Brahman culture, different in some ways, you would lump under the same category).

This is one of the best statements summing up universal tendencies and how India got to be the way it is that I have seen. And you did it in one paragraph. Hat’s off.

– When you say Indians suck – which group do you mean?

I mean the culture as a whole. Indian culture is monstrous. It’s reactionary, backwards and so nasty, vicious and selfish that it almost borders on evil. You grow up in India, even if you are a good person, you get poisoned by the culture. My own Punjabi physician agreed with me on this. He said that if he would have stayed in India, he would have gotten culture-poisoned and he didn’t want that, so he came here.
Also in a sense it is not really their fault. Indians are victims of the culture imposed on them which they must accept with little choice. If you opt out or drop out or refuse to participate in this very nasty culture, you will be punished. I had a commenter who got a law degree, but law in India is so sleazy and corrupt that he had to leave his practice. The only way to make any money at all in India is by being a complete sleazeball. He decided to be a dropout and live like a hippie instead on a lot less money, but he’s quite happy and I guess he sleeps well at night too.

– Do you think these people are inherently fucked or salvageable (although with the level of human capital, total caste-mixing is not possible, and even if done would result in one population with low mean IQ)?

I do think Indians are salvageable of course. Some Second generation Indians in the US have lost all of their Indian culture or at least all of the awful parts of it. They behave exactly like I do. Indians are screwed by culture but not by biology. There’s nothing wrong with them biologically, and I can’t say that about all races. Indian culture is the problem and all cultures can be changed even if it takes a Cultural Revolution to do so.
Full comment is here:

Robert,
I’m a Brahman from Nepal. My father’s side of the family used to be the local ruling family in their village/region. They tend to be more aggressive and used force a lot more often- one of my great uncles- who used to be the appointed ‘ruler’ of the region had six wives. My mother’s side used to be the ruling family in their (neighboring ) village- I’m sure their money didn’t come without violence/exploitation, but my grandfather and uncles are all very scholastic and have much more of a high IQ culture. There are other less well to do Brahmans in these villages. But also a significant number of lower caste people.
I grew up in the capital and other cities (dad worked for the government and got transferred every few years) and used to visit my ancestral villages every couple of years as a kid. After high school, I came to the US for college and have now finished my PhD.
What I have noticed about caste and race and different groups of people living together is:
– Your Latin america analogy is good- in terms of race mixing, status, and power-relations.
– Nepal tends to be a higher trust place than India (although not that high by global standards).
– Nepal Brahmans do tend to dominate civil service and universities.
– The least trustworthy people tend to be North Indians ( I’m excluding Nepali Brahmins from this group)- why is this?
– The average IQ of the lower castes does tend to be low – maybe this is through systematic breeding opportunity-drifts or got crystallized at some time in the past and remained that way.
– Higher IQ people/ruling classes always exploit the natural resources as well as the local human resources- and the position of Brahmans is like that of South African whites post-apartheid. Clinging on to their power and privileges but constantly feeling threatened- this kind of insecure ruling group devolves into nasty survival tactics and turn their own country into shitholes. Over generations, this kind of thinking becomes endemic as the culture- and I agree Indian culture (and Nepal Brahman culture, different in some ways, you would lump under the same category)
– When you say Indians suck – which group do you mean?
– Do you think these people are inherently fucked or salvageable (although with the level of human capital, total caste-mixing is not possible, and even if done would result in one population with low mean IQ)?
– Owing to the good climate (weaker selection pressure), there are vast amounts of low IQ people present who were well adapted to their ways of life, but with globalization and a supremacy of Ice-People Culture, how would you even solve this problem ( given e.g. Greece is a problem state for EU) ?

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8 thoughts on “Letter from Nepal: Brahminism in Nepal”

  1. Thank you for the post.
    I wonder how much you have thought about Nepal. In some ways it is similar to India (mixed population with various ethnic groups/languages) or Pakistan (high altitude and some groups that are similar but different because of history/religion).
    Also, Nepal was never directly colonized by the British; and thus there is no nagging legacy of colonialism/slavery, which reflects in the difference of the attitude of the people when compared to Indians. In the aftermath of the fall of the monarchy and a disorganized power struggle amongst political parties that are not driven by strong ideologies but rather reactive and transient sentiments, it has not collapsed socially although it is at the brink of becoming a failed state.
    As bad as things seem, I am sometimes surprised that they are not worse. I have read some of your work, and you obviously study the dynamics of people and nations in some depth. It would be great to see a post or a series on your analysis of Nepal (people: ethnic origins, IQ, culture, politics, potentials, weaknesses and institutions: social, business, political/government). You might find it interesting.

    1. There are some long in depth pieces on here about Nepal written by Peter Tobin from a pro Maoist POV. Click on Nepal or search Peter Tobin and they might come up. I actually have some of his work right now. I am supposed to be looking it over for him. I have edited some of his stuff in the past.

  2. “Nepal tends to be a higher trust place than India”
    A significant proportion of Nepalese are of the Mongoloid Tibeto-Burman stock (a complete majority in the mountain regions, somewhat less so in the plains and foothills) and they are generally considered to be very trustworthy in India, where many migrate for work. They also make up the famous Gurkha regiment of the British army. As for their IQ, though, just google “gurkha jokes”.

  3. Interesting post. I’ve recently noticed some things that have painted Indians in a bad light for me. (Of course, at this point I’m not sophisticated enough to differentiate between different groups/castes, so I don’t know to which subset this applies.)
    Is pettiness, jealousy and envy, mixed with frankly bad judgment a common set of traits? I’ve seen this in more than one person and was wondering whether I was seeing a pattern based on a too-small sample.

    1. I think that’s true. They act catty like the ugly friend does when you talk to the pretty one- except all the time. All they do is cock-block each other in everything and act petty and jealous- crabs in a bucket. If you try to treat one like a normal person, with trust and respect, they think there must be something wrong with you. It’s repeated prisoners’ dilemma with low trust- everyone gets zapped everytime. Hence, the shitting on the streets, and corruption. And all the tall claims about how indians figured out everything thousands of years ago. They don’t expect anyone to believe them, much less take them seriously- the purpose of talking is to bullshit, not to communicate a point or have a proper discussion.

  4. Hi Robert,
    Thank you for the reply. Yeah, bad judgment may simply be a second-order effect from the first three, in the sense that they drive poor decisions and poor collective outcomes.

  5. I don’t know. I think there’s something wrong with them. These groups were the original Aryan conquerors. They came in, conquered the natives, slaughtered them horrifically in doing so, and then imposed one of the worst forms of race-based enslavement and hierarchy the world has ever seen. All the while justifying it and cementing it in with religion. Historically speaking, North Indians have not been very nice people. In fact, their history is of being monsters. Now they’re not trustworthy probably because the lie, cheat, and steal. With a history like theirs, why should we expect less?

    You mean like in the US, especially the south, or maybe Brazil? Let’s not leave out Mexico.

    I don’t know. I think there’s something wrong with them. These groups were the original Aryan conquerors.

    White racists don’t call themselves Aryans for nothing!

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