Presidential IQ: IQ's of Bush, Obama and Trump

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1. Trump’s professors at University of Pennsylvania would not agree with that assessment, and if his IQ score was obtained from dt himself, than it’s guaranteed to an embellishment and way off base.

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   1. ^to be an embellishment, I meant to say:).

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2. George Bush is not an intellectual. However, I read an interview with him after he left office, and I was shocked at how smart he was. He had a sort of con artist, street smarts, think on your feet, clever, foxy type intelligence. The whole interview was a carefully crafted propaganda piece full of right-wing lies about all sorts of subjects. But the arguments were carefully crafted using very precise language in such a way as to make the propaganda most likely to fool people. He’s an expert smooth talking liar! But it is clear that he understood all of these policy issues very well to be able to frame them so well in this immaculately convincing and impressive way.
   I finished the interview, and for the first time in my life I thought, “Well I’ll be damned. You know what? This guy isn’t dumb at all!”

   He sure was a legend.
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   1. A commenter on Pat Buchanan’s site said it best.
      “The American people believed Bush because he said ‘noo-cler’ and not ‘nuclear’ like some egghead”.

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3. Trump was handled from the beginning. His antics were scripted controlled opposition.
   I suppose after someone reasonably intelligent like Obama (IQ 125-140) sometimes successfully resisted the deep state, they decided to go full Yidiocracy and only promote TV buffoons like Trump, Kanye, etc.
   The future is not bright.

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4. I think 115 IQ for Trump, but with extreme emotional instability.
   Wealthiest 500 of 300,000,000 Americans, 0.7 IQ-Wealth correlation, average 155. Subtract 40 points for being selected by the overlords as the least intelligent of them, that gives 115.
   Bush was 125, but was reared in politics. Obama was even higher and intellectual.

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5. George Bush is not an intellectual. However, I read an interview with him after he left office, and I was shocked at how smart he was. He had a sort of con artist, street smarts, think on your feet, clever, foxy type intelligence. The whole interview was a carefully crafted propaganda piece full of right-wing lies about all sorts of subjects. But the arguments were carefully crafted using very precise language in such a way as to make the propaganda most likely to fool people. He’s an expert smooth talking liar! But it is clear that he understood all of these policy issues very well to be able to frame them so well in this immaculately convincing and impressive way.

   Psychologists are dabbling with the concept of “cunning IQ” or predatory IQ of street-smart people. Just like you have verbal IQ and spatial reasoning skills?
   Here’s a very nice article on this subject.
   https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201701/the-measure-cunning

   “Street-smart” offenders have developed ways to solve problems valued in their milieu. Some have been quite clever. Some have invented products to achieve their goals. They have a specific type of intelligence, even though many might come up short on a standard IQ test.

   It might be the most advanced IQ of them all because in the words of the author:

   So, what might be involved in creating a C-IQ assessment? Besides ordinary IQ and perhaps the degree of psychopathy or depravity, we want to measure such things as predatory skills, ability to compartmentalize, ability to hone in on victims for successful maneuvers, ability to persuade, degree of boldness or narcissistic immunity, ability to pose or create a ruse, ability to normalize or rationalize acts, ability to develop and maintain secrecy, and ability to deflect attention from sinister motives (Others would be added as this instrument is developed).
   A common battery includes the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale-IV, the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory-2-RF, and possibly a neuropsychological battery. For suspected psychopathy, clinicians might use the PCL-R or a similar assessment, most of which include versions for youth. In the context of predators or clever criminals, we might also consider emotional intelligence, or EQ (not for use in reports that would end up in court, though). In addition, there might be assessments for specific issues such as anger disorders, thought control, or depression.

   It gets darker from here. I can almost feel the chills.

   Offenders who succeed have learned effective ways to deflect others from discovering their secrets. They can speak convincingly about socially approved venues of right and wrong, and yet repeatedly commit evil acts. Their secret lives grow darker, supported by a private moral logic, and they can maintain a high level of functioning even while they seek victims. The effort to keep the violent fantasies separate from normal daydreams forms a boundary that makes these realms distinct.

   Read on.

   Smart predators also exploit perceptual quirks. They, too, use deflection, social miscues, and misinformation to provide cover. Often, they use a contrived persona of charm and success to engender trust. They deflect caution by seeming confident and by doing favors or engaging their targets in compliant situations. They know what it takes to fool the brain. I wrote more about this here, as the six ways that predators exploit principles of persuasion.

   Now here’s how we finally get to understand George W Bush, Al Baghdadi, Mark Zuckerberg, or Donald Trump. To understand the true nature of their depravity, the following lines are gold. Yes, narcissistic immunity (NI). That’s the secret of the world’s most cruel psychopaths.

   The offenders who most mesmerize us display a perplexing resilience. It’s called narcissistic immunity (NI). You might see it in a CEO, a celebrity athlete, even an artist, but you’ll definitely find it in repeat offenders who take significant risks. They have a talent for rebounding from setbacks, because they’re certain of their invulnerability–even when the evidence is clearly against them.
   The resilience of NI derives from a sense of superiority and disdain for others. Some believe their victims were “privileged” to have been in their orbit. This attitude can amount to a clinical disorder that distorts reality, because excessive narcissists are buffered inside a cocoon of their own concerns. They believe their “special” status protects them and that something will always save them. “I’m not accountable,” they think, “and nothing will stick.”

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