What Is White Man's Burden Racism?

Jason writes:

In order to have “true believers”, you need to recruit people into the US army who are true racists and followers of the “white man’s burden” idea. True believers would be the best soldiers as they would have no compassion for the NAM’s they are killing in the name of exploitation.

Do you know what White Man’s Burden Racism even is? White Man’s Burden Racism isn’t even racism. It’s just made up bullshit like Rape Culture. White Man’s Burden Racism means, “Darn, these people are so lame that they can’t even run their own societies. We have a duty to help these screwups!” That’s all it is. It’s “racism” because it insults the primitives by saying that they are too lame to run their own affairs, which is just fact anyway. I am a strong advocate or White Man’s Burden Racism and I am very proud to be a White Man’s Burden Racist.

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68 thoughts on “What Is White Man's Burden Racism?”

  1. Generally speaking, though some exceptions can be made, for instance with the alt left, the “White Man’s Burden” is used to justify imperialist exploitation, segregation and other forms of oppression. Your typical bozo white racist signing up for the US Army, South African Aparthied era SA army, US police force, would be the type (not saying though all US army are racists and they are defending the US homeland which is obviously good).
    Cause think about it. How in the hell can you get someone to be so mean, unless the targeted racist think’s they’re doing a great good (white man’s burden)? That’s where indocrination comes in and all that.

      1. I never said you did.
        I think a big thing lies in the fact that it’s a fact NAMS are mentally weaker than whites or Northeast Asians, on average. That situation makes it easy for the alt right, Republicans whoever, to justify oppression against them. On the other hand, either liberals are sort of admitting NAMS are weaker but propose liberal programs or Communism to even things out, or they are flat out lying claiming serious racial differences don’t exist between the races, on average.

        1. Sorry for double post, also liberals might say the environment is to blame, and they might be right. So they think changing the environment would even things out over time.

      2. Well I do not support imperialism, exploitation, invasion, conquest, segregation or any of that.

        Sorry for triple post, but you know how can you really help NAMS unless you interfere in their affairs (conquest etc…) ?? EPGAH would probably bring that thought up, and he would probably be correct.

    1. Not true. China gives lots of aid and has a lot of trade based on solidarity all over the world, especially in Africa right now, The CCP runs China and it is a Communist Party and CP’s are supposed to be humanistic and humanitarian and giving as a matter of definition.

      1. I don’t believe they do. I’m unconvinced that White Mans Burden was more altruisim than some sort of quid-pro-quo attempt at lifting them up, so we could benefit from.
        Sure, some missionaries and such went for what were ostensibly altruistic purposes, but I think it had a lot to do with moral posturing, and an attempt to gain economically.
        I hypothesise that the “White Mans Burden” idea exists very strongly amongst the Politically Correct/pro-Diversity types. In fact, the attitudes of these people, the multiculturalists seem to be the SAME. It’s still about civilising the brown people. It’s still about exploiting them in the process. It’s still about saving OUR soul by showing how good we are to what are perceived to be inferior races.
        All thats changes is where it is occuring. We no longer go ‘out there’ to colonise, so we bring them ‘over here’. Yes, the program is still continuing, but a weaker Western Civ is doing it in its own lands instead. Note the language of them, it appears to be that they honestly don’t believe that Brown and Black people have any chance unless White people intervene and run their affairs. As its no longer suitable to go there, we do it here.
        Really, the White Separatists are the ones arguing for an end to this centuries long practice, not the anti-racists.

  2. White Man’s Burden Racism isn’t even racism. It’s just made up bullshit like Rape Culture. White Man’s Burden Racism means, “Darn, these people are so lame that they can’t even run their own societies. We have a duty to help these screwups!”

    Yeah, but EP-GAH would bring up the unfortunately correct comment along the lines of:
    “Well, how can we help them without conquering them, segregating against them, taking their resources (seeing that white people own and created the industries)” etc…

    1. Epgoon that we invaded Iraq to ‘help the savages’;
      https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWQxpEtQkMQyHuHkDD4Eahhpzb5nfIanMQVAf_u3NCebidhBPBZQ
      never mind the easier ‘getting’ of oil that comes over here and helps both us and our companies via lower costs and prices but much higher sales.
      We wanted to help them.
      I respect WNs who are cynical about the Jews, because at least their rhetoric is more plausible than that dumbassery.

      1. Millions starve in Africa or die in its wars but Bush CARED about the poor Iraqi people? Unconvincing but it fooled people who actually believed they could win a war by air striking its population and killing one leader.
        Ten years later the wounded soldiers can watch the country collapse and its terrorists destabilize Syria to the extent that the population flees to Europe.
        White man’s burden has lost a great deal of lives for little gain.

        1. True, but also they Arabs practice massive first cousin marriage. For instance, at least 70 percent or more of the Pakistani population does.

  3. I don’t think Northeast Asians are all selfish. If they’re converted an egalitarian thing like Communism or Christianity, then they become less like that. However, once the Northeast Asians become “more interested” in other cultures, then imperalism from them follows, because the same thing which happened with whites happens to them. Now the Northeast Asians have to assume parental roles, and often abuse comes with that.

    1. JASON Have you observed how concerned Chinese business cartels in the Philippines are with Filipinos they pay 100 PHP per day?
      I’m unconvinced.

        1. In a way this is true. Chinese have built up economies in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia and Singapore to various degrees of success/resentment among the natives.

  4. How many Africans, Chinese, Native Americans or South Asians are grateful for the burden white men assumed?
    You couldn’t find ten in the world.

    1. IDK. I have known some ‘Third world elite’ types who LOVE European culture and such.
      But they still think it’s best that Whites be ousted from power in the modern day.
      And the non-elites are less ‘pro-White’ than that.

    2. I have to agree with Chiune here. Probably most NAMS are very grateful, but, on the other hand, they would object to the pompous assumption that the white man is doing them a favor.

  5. The White Man’s Burden is so pompous and condescending. How about The White Man’s Boogie? 😆 That sounds more hip and in-fashion.

  6. The original intention of Kipling in “The White Man’s Burden” was to satirize US colonial misadventures in the Philippines. However, most Americans, including Theodore Roosevelt, failed to decipher the sarcasm. They just saw it as a proof of America’s Manifest Destiny etc. Kipling was a writer, and writers have got to eat. So, he eventually decided to play to the fantasy of White Supremacists, earning money through reading tours.
    Long back, out of curiosity, I read from the library records of Kipling during the adult years he spent in India. For someone born in the 19th century, Kipling was, in fact, the least racist person. But, this is also a man who gave us “Gunga Din”.

    1. SHI Spanish had been in the Philippines 400 years it had long been the white man’s burden under the Spanish Administration-who I should add, were responsible for many more atrocities than Americans.
      Kipling was an Anglo-Indian and most likely was applying the term to Victorian era India.
      You’re way off here…but again it goes back to the obsessions with America that Indians and particularly Punjabi have.

    2. Actually Teddy Roosevelt let a black man sit at his table as president, which caused a stir in the southern states. He also admired the Japanese, even though they wern’t white. In addition, he wanted blacks to succeed, but looking at the facts he couldn’t place his dream with reality.

  7. Rudyard Kipling was Anglo-Indian and Philippines was a colony of Spain for 400 years, while the United States only occupied-like it occupied Iraq-for 40 years.
    Kipling was referring to Victorian England, I think.

    1. No, Kipling was referring to The US occupation of the Philippines. That’s exactly what any Kipling scholar would tell you.
      I’m not Punjabi. I can’t stand them one bit. Loud, obnoxious and pig-ignorant, Punjabis are like the Rednecks/White trash of India. Few decent exceptions though.

  8. The son of British Raj in Pax Britannia focuses on a brief occupation by the U.S. of the Philippines? How odd.
    I’m of the opinion that North Americans are fortunate to have never had colonies.

  9. Anti-racists should really just take this and stfu. Me included.
    Better than the ‘pushing the cripple into the gutter’ ideology of mainstream HBD.
    Robert did a post on the ‘Ironic Views of HBDers’, or something like that.
    This is the natural response.

    1. Though this might sound cheesy, John Lennon made a good quote, referring to his childhood bullying of the disabled, that a lot of kids are “crippled in the heart”.

    2. The main problem with HBD is they don’t give anyone a chance. Even mainstream Republicans will give the downtrodden at least a chance, assuming they will work. HBD is massively dangerous, considering they consider the common good, which is a warped view of what is good, to be better than that of the individual (handicapped person, racially disadvantaged person), and they would be willing, as the Nazis did, of just flat out killing those whom they think are unfit in an evolutionary sense.

      1. The dynamic in the comments section on pumpkinpersons’ blog is very interesting.
        There is a juxtaposition of HBDers (Lion of the Judah Sphere comes to mind), harcore WNs (Santoculto comes to mind) and Jason types.
        The Jason types side with the WNs more than with PP and LOTJ.
        They would say that the Pumpkinperson ideology ‘justifies atrocities in the past’.
        One of the WNs even made a joke about how “PP believes Hitler was smarter than all those Jews he’s killed”.
        Nationalism is not inherently Supremacist related or Darwinistic, but HBD is.

        1. To Chiune Sugihara:
          Nationalism is not inherently Supremacist related or Darwinistic, but HBD is.
          HBD certainly is allied with a belief in the principals of Charles Darwin, that said Darwin himself still believed in God, hence HBD does not have to be supremacist or certainly not race supremacist. There were black and leftists eugenicists in the early part of the 20th century including non other than W.E.B. Dubois the founder of NAACP:
          http://etd.library.vanderbilt.edu/available/etd-04092013-223607/unrestricted/01Chresfield.pdf
          Here is a quote from W.E.B Dubois, which quite shocking considering the source:
          “The mass of ignorant Negroes still breed carelessly and disastrously, so that the increase among Negroes, even more than the increase among whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent and fit, and least able to rear their children properly.”
          Although W.E.B Dubois was a firm believer in eugenics he believe in “fitness” across races and not promoting one race.
          and Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood:
          http://takimag.com/article/margaret_sanger_and_the_eugenics_meme/print
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Eugenics

      2. The dynamic of the comments on PP’s blog is very interesting.
        The three groups are HBDers, WNs, and SJW types.
        The SJW types side with the WNs more than with the HBDers, because they see HBD as ‘justifying atrocities’ and such.
        I can recall one said ‘the only difference between the WNs and the HBDers is that the HBDers will spew their rhetoric with a smile’.
        I mean, right now, we all accept that Mengele was a Nazi?
        Right?

      3. Although both of course have finished fiddling with HBD on any meaningful scale, it is kind of like the comparison to be made between Andrew Anglin and Jared Taylor.
        Anglin is not at all mainstream and only gets media attention when he’s in trouble with the law, like threats made to Heidi Cruz. He’s not seen as decent and most people would reject him, even a lot of the alt-right does.
        Taylor is seen as perhaps a more coherent voice and the alt-right, and can tone his rhetoric down to enough people and convince them ‘we’re not at all like the daily stormer’, while communicating some policy ideas in different words.
        It gives the newly recruited AmRenners they’re NOT participating in something that’s similiar to the Daily Stormer, but they are.
        For instance, if Taylor and Anglin advocated the same thing, most here would subconsciencly say what Taylor said is better because he has a reputation of a moderate and has the demeanor.
        But is he really?

        1. Santo-culto is a white supremacist. Iv’e seen no indication he isn’t. He might occasionally throw in some wimpy lefty thing occasionally, thinking it makes him neutral, but overall, he’s just a WN.

        2. When it comes to Santoculto, he’s basically very convinced with Jews’ involvement in White degradation. Overall though, I wouldn’t call him a WN despite the striking parallel. Personally I would be dishonest if I didn’t see a pattern to what is said. This is based less on personal biases on my end with Jews and more on their profile through an HBD and historical lens.
          Very inbred, thus clannishness is very likely. Now it’s important to note that there inbreeding patterns were based on selection for better traits than just mere degrading inbreeding in other populations. High Verbal IQ could aid them in success in conjunction to close family ties. Any way you slice it, consistent opposition towards and from non-Jews, consistent with the traits listed above.
          We can argue if it’s unique or not, but as far as I’m concerned the background info is in favor of those who believe in Jewish manipulation. The problem though in these criticisms is distinguishing self weaknesses of the population from manipulation.
          Many who argue manipulation are often clannish, so they would likely be biased against weaknesses of the population, but it could be argued that the weaknesses themselves were exploited and exaggerated to hurt them more than it should. All I’ll say for now that Jews are an influential component, but I’m reserved if they are the main component. AT LEAST the particularly clannish ones.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/05/08/the-jews-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

        3. Jews are pro-NAM because;
          1. Jews have sky high Verbal IQs and are less racist. Although an argument can be made that they are tribalistic with regards to themselves, Israeli Ashkenazi Jews have significantly lower IQs than American ones. American Jews also voted for the man who is perhaps the most hated living man in Israel; Barack Obama.
          Jews were the victims of discrimination and ethnic injustice and can empathize with historic victims like African-Americans.
          The Santoculto/Kmac argument that
          Jews are 40% non-White, Jews hate Whites because of the pogroms/Holocaust, Jews have EGIs, Jews hence use those EGIs to want to kill Whites VIA NAMs ‘running wild’ has too many “what ifs”.

        4. Phil-
          whether or not you believe in the Jew conspiracy is determined by these 5 questions;
          1. Do you believe in EGIs?
          2. Do you believe Jews are non-White?
          3. If you answered yes to #2 do you believe that Jews hate Whites?
          4. Do you believe Jews are aiding NAMs?
          5 Do you believe the aiding NAMs is killing Whites?
          If you answered yes to all 5 you do.
          If you answer yes to #s 4 and #5 you believe Jews are killing Whites, but not intentionally.

        5. The whole “Jews are coming to get Whites” is perhaps defeated immediately in the sheer genetic closeness of Ashkenazi Jews and other Europeans. Think about it. How is it one’s inherent nature/EGIs to kill your co-race peoples? Robert banned “racerealist” the blogger and sometime commenter for this type of thing, just an FYI. It was really a shame because he is generally a great HBD blogger.

        6. “Jews are pro-NAM because;
          1. Jews have sky high Verbal IQs and are less racist. Although an argument can be made that they are tribalistic with regards to themselves, Israeli Ashkenazi Jews have significantly lower IQs than American ones. American Jews also voted for the man who is perhaps the most hated living man in Israel; Barack Obama.”
          I’m not sure exactly on whether or not this means they are less racists, this reflects more of their actions rather than their motivations.
          Why overall IQs differ, we do not know what thew verbal differences are. As well as the IQ comment, IQ correlates with less “racist” IN PART due to the effects of outbreeding.
          “Jews were the victims of discrimination and ethnic injustice and can empathize with historic victims like African-Americans.” UUuuummmm….so where a few others in America Like the Chinese but we still need to think about the real life mechanics of racial attitudes of each other, The same can be said of Latinos as well.
          With that noted it should also be understood, and I believe recognized by Robert, that when it comes to “anti racism” there’s some hypocrisy in what Israelis criticize about America and what THEY do and last I checked most US ones don’t mix with other races as much as Whites for example.
          “The Santoculto/Kmac argument that
          Jews are 40% non-White, Jews hate Whites because of the pogroms/Holocaust, Jews have EGIs, Jews hence use those EGIs to want to kill Whites VIA NAMs ‘running wild’ has too many “what ifs”.”
          For the sake of simplicity, lets just say “white” equal European. Razib Khan likely has closer estimates, but I’m pretty sure 40% for Europeans Jews isn’t far off.
          Well, clannishness through inbreeding is EGI. Kill whites?To fully “eliminate” I think is too simplistic. I think a more realistic motive would be to efficiently removing them as competition by some method, and that actions are done through politics and media for them to expand and gain more resources due to EGI.
          “whether or not you believe in the Jew conspiracy is determined by these 5 questions;
          1. Do you believe in EGIs?” Yes
          “2. Do you believe Jews are non-White?” Definitely Caucasian, definitely part of particular European Heritage. White? From a biological stand point, yes. From a sociological perspective in relation to Europeans, hardly.
          “3. If you answered yes to #2 do you believe that Jews hate Whites?” At least to some considerable amount due to clannishness.
          “4. Do you believe Jews are aiding NAMs?” Considering they often side with the cultural left in MODERN racial issues, not really.
          5″ Do you believe the aiding NAMs is killing Whites?”
          I believe immigration and lack of functional domestic race relation due to their support of modern left positions on these issues hurt whites. So yes.
          “If you answered yes to all 5 you do.
          If you answer yes to #s 4 and #5 you believe Jews are killing Whites, but not intentionally.”
          Well based on how I answered them, I’m not sure if it qualifies as a “conspiracy”? While some actions are “planned” on Jews behalf, it’s th EGI that’s the core rather than the plan itself.
          Though overall I think a better reflection of my views are that Jews are a major component to anti-white attitudes of today. I also believe there are biological reasons behind this.
          The thing is though I don’t go on about from simply personal views of Jews. Prior to me and race realism I was indifferent about them but looking at the facts about Jews of the same HBD lens with Blacks there are reasons for reported behavior.
          If this upsets you in your view of me, I wish I could speak differently, but I’ve stuck by the HBD reasons for black pathology so I can’t deny things when the same can be made with another group.
          Hell, Robert had posted how a Jew he knew constantly keep pretending to be a WS on his blog.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/03/19/a-jew-pays-a-visit-to-my-blog/
          “I have been told that there are many Jews running around the Internet doing exactly what this guy is doing – operating as agents provocateurs. Sometimes I think that for every real Nazi on the Net, there’s some lunatic Jew pretending to be a Nazi for some sick, insane reason. This behavior does not reflect very well on the Jewish people. People already don’t like Jews a whole lot as it is, and this behavior is just going to make people dislike them even more. Or is that the purpose? To create new enemies?”
          Keep this in mind though. Just as I believe in HBD reasons for blacks, I obviously don’t dive into ape/monkey analogies.

        7. To Chiune,
          I replied to you last night but the comment hasn’t appeared, so here’s the Short a sweet of it.
          While European Jews are close to other Europeans, inbreeding has made them particularly close to eachother.
          http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-origins-of-ashkenazi-jews-near-resolution/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-origins-of-ashkenazi-jews-near-resolution
          Plus a decent chunk of them is still “non-european”.
          “Jews are pro-NAM because;
          1. Jews have sky high Verbal IQs and are less racist.”
          What statistics aside from your further observation actually validate this. the typical method would usually be inter marriage rates, but how often do they really inter-marry for instance?
          ” Although an argument can be made that they are tribalistic with regards to themselves, Israeli Ashkenazi Jews have significantly lower IQs than American ones. American Jews also voted for the man who is perhaps the most hated living man in Israel; Barack Obama.”
          But all that doesn’t disprove clannishness of them in the states because it ignores there actual behavior with other races and possible alternative reasons why they would vote for Obama.
          Also, while not denying it, it would also be helpful if we knew why Israelis hate Obama
          http://www.haaretz.com/news/why-do-israelis-dislike-barack-obama-1.4930
          Basically his foreign policies, but what about domestic?
          “Jews were the victims of discrimination and ethnic injustice and can empathize with historic victims like African-Americans.”
          Well….so were other groups. and like those other groups they advanced compared to them, and those non-jew groups often developed a distain for, if not blacks themselves, their laziness.
          “The Santoculto/Kmac argument that
          Jews are 40% non-White, Jews hate Whites because of the pogroms/Holocaust, Jews have EGIs, Jews hence use those EGIs to want to kill Whites VIA NAMs ‘running wild’ has too many “what ifs”.””
          Well I’ve shown that they are genetic different to a significant extent for other Europeans due t their Levantine component and inbreeding, main mechanism for EGI.
          To “kill” whites is too simplistic though, In my opinion it’s to simply out compete them for influence and resources. Again, a function of EGI
          “Phil-
          whether or not you believe in the Jew conspiracy is determined by these 5 questions;”
          Alright.
          “1. Do you believe in EGIs?”
          Yes
          “2. Do you believe Jews are non-White?” For simplicity’s sake I would describe white as non-european. Overall, for a genetic standpoint I think at least many can qualify for “white”. From a sociological standpoint, perhaps but in the sense of having a overall cultural unity with Gentiles (majority of whites) hardly.
          “3. If you answered yes to #2 do you believe that Jews hate Whites?”
          Relatively yes, as a product of clannishness.
          “4. Do you believe Jews are aiding NAMs?” Due to often supporting modern Left methods of NAMS relations, no.
          “5 Do you believe the aiding NAMs is killing Whites?” The Modern left’s Idea of “aiding” combined with promotion of multiculturalism, yes.
          “If you answered yes to all 5 you do.
          If you answer yes to #s 4 and #5 you believe Jews are killing Whites, but not intentionally.”
          Well in context I see it as the existence of tribalism that can be connected to genetics, not necessarily a grand master plan of immorality unattached to those concepts.
          If this upsets you I’m sorry, but it would compromise my integrity if I didn’t look at this from the same perspective of why Blacks act the way they act.
          With that said, if they are too entirely to Blame I’m agnostic to the position, but given the evidence I weary of “coincidences”.

        8. Phil-
          1. The argument that other groups than AAs have been oppressed could also extend to the Jews ‘aren’t historically White’ argument;
          Jews were treated badly, but so were Italians, Poles, Spaniards, Greeks, whomever. The fact that Seinfeld, is the ‘stereotypical White guy’ shows how well Jews have adapted to White American culture and see themselves as White.
          I just find it difficult to believe that, if, I’m 60% of one race and 40% of a race very, very similiar to that race, that I seek the destruction of the former race? That just doesn’t make sense to me.
          You’re correct that American Jews could like Obama for things besides foreign policy, but what has he done domestically for American Jews? The foremost “EGI” motivation for Jews would be Israel, which he has ‘stood up to’. Pat Buchanan has even praised him on this.

        9. Phil-
          “1. The argument that other groups than AAs have been oppressed could also extend to the Jews ‘aren’t historically White’ argument;
          Jews were treated badly, but so were Italians, Poles, Spaniards, Greeks, whomever. The fact that Seinfeld, is the ‘stereotypical White guy’ shows how well Jews have adapted to White American culture and see themselves as White.”
          Regarding those who were deemed “non-white” where also technically white just goes back to my argument that other discriminated groups that elevated, like Jews, aren’t exactly “united” with Blacks, so why assume the same with Jews?
          Regarding Seinfeld….I could do the same with a black celebrity and make a general argument of AAs. That doesn’t the economic and cultural differences of the groups overall different.
          Now you could say that’s more obvious then a “white” subgroup, fine. However even then with white subgroups they didn’t “all” just vanish or merely hanged on to their origins for memory’s sake. You still have differences within white subgroups as well as interactions. The differences is that now it goes beyond simply “I hate that town of spics” type of views due to Jews having a more elevated status.
          “I just find it difficult to believe that, if, I’m 60% of one race and 40% of a race very, very similiar to that race, that I seek the destruction of the former race? That just doesn’t make sense to me.”
          Well it works with EGI and clannishness, inbreeding. Say you have two groups of the same macro race and you have one outbreed and the other inbreed they would still be “similar” in a sense, but the inbred one would be more clannish.
          With Jews, however, there has been slection for higher IQ, verbal in particular, with this inbreeding. Therefore, you don’t see the effects of IQ degradation as you see with other groups when inbreeding.
          You are also likely correct with US jews being less clannish, but how clannish are they compared to other groups of similar SES status?
          “You’re correct that American Jews could like Obama for things besides foreign policy, but what has he done domestically for American Jews? The foremost “EGI” motivation for Jews would be Israel, which he has ‘stood up to’. Pat Buchanan has even praised him on this.”
          Both of Obama’s opponents, Romney and McCain, would’ve been no threat to Israel, even somewhat apologetic.
          However, let’s think of where they could benefit regarding Israel and Obama
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Israel
          “In June 2012, Obama said that the bond between the United States and Israel is “unbreakable.”[295] During the initial years of the Obama administration, the U.S. increased military cooperation with Israel, including increased military aid, re-establishment of the U.S.-Israeli Joint Political Military Group and the Defense Policy Advisory Group, and an increase in visits among high-level military officials of both countries.[296] The Obama administration asked Congress to allocate money toward funding the Iron Dome program in response to the waves of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel.[297]
          In 2013, Jeffrey Goldberg reported that, in Obama’s view, “with each new settlement announcement, Netanyahu is moving his country down a path toward near-total isolation.”[298]
          In 2014, President Obama likened the Zionist movement to the Civil Rights Movement in the United States. He said that both movements seek to bring justice and equal rights to historically persecuted peoples. He explained, “To me, being pro-Israel and pro-Jewish is part and parcel with the values that I’ve been fighting for since I was politically conscious and started getting involved in politics.”[299]”
          While Obama would be a disadvantage in how Israel is formed, in terms of strengthening it he was efficient

  10. NARVSELUM I cannot think of any system where Tamils are not at the bottom: Australia’s aboriginals who migrated to Australia in the dawn of time, Indian caste system, Singapore political representation and financial influence, Gulf State employment hierarchy.
    You’ve found a few missionaries who accepted you into our religion because Hindus really did not want to have you down in the Southern tropical corner of India far away from the centers of Persian high-culture in Delhi.
    Don’t look to us whites for support. We’re not interested.

  11. Actually I think Brahmin found some way to survive under the Mughals and remain unconverted but I am not Indian and this part of their history is not really known to me.

  12. Ostensibly there is a lot of vocal support for things like BLM among black Americans, but anecdotally I am convinced that most more or less educated, successful black Americans wish the whole thing would go away, along with all the requirements and social pressure for being “down with the cause” and so on.

      1. there is the stereotype that the police hate more successful Blacks as opposed to less (the South Park Michael Jackson episode), but it remains to seen if that is true.
        AND, the police are in less of a position to beat up someone with money and power, race dependent. There’s apparently no bias in killings of AN Blacks, per a Black guy’s Harvard study.
        Mark Furhman said;
        “If you see a nigger driving a nice car and NOT wearing a $200 suit, you rough him up”

        1. Well, I don’t think Furhman’s comment is referring to rich blacks like Michael Jackson, and odds are, he admires MJ, as he rose from poverty basically by following Fox News family values.
          Furhman is speaking of drug dealers, as they would have more money obviously.

  13. OK, but considering Du Bois, the black man eventually DID climb out of retardation, at least the level that was present in 1900. However, eugenicists at the time would have said they would never have been able to do that.
    In fact, the eugenicists of the time might have been convinced blacks would always be as mentally backward as when they were slaves. Of course, we have to remember though, slaves could not get an education legally and the education after slavery was incredibly inferior.
    Now black have an IQ around 90 or something. That’s up from around 70 or less in Du Bois’ time. Of course, people that mentally backward are going to discriminated against, of course.

    1. A Lower East Side Jewish plumber and a Korean-American hairdresser would no more wish to live in the hood than a Klan member.
      Self-preservation is a human emotion far more powerful than political correctness or even self-loathing.

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