IQ in Israel and Palestine

Jason writes:

This brings up another deep thought. Ever wonder why high IQ Jews and Palestinians can’t get along? Could it be because the Arab IQ is so inbred and low? How much can one blame on the Jews?

Needless to say, I strongly disagree with the thrust of this argument. However it does bring up an interesting question regarding what the IQ’s are of the Israelis and the Palestinians. After a bit of Googling around, I found these figures:

Ethnic group               IQ
Israeli Ashkenazim         107
Israeli Jewish             100
Israeli Sephardic           99
Israeli total               98
Israeli Mizrachi            93
Israeli Arabs/Palestinians  85

Most figures are from here. Israeli Ashkenazim figure is from here. Better figures including a study by James Flynn are here (Flynn 1998; Kaniel and Fisherman 1991). This page seems to prove that Lynn’s widely cited 94-95 figure for Israel is wrong and a better figure is 98. The figure for Palestinians is a result of a recent study done by Richard Lynn (Bakhieta and Lynn 2014).

Feel free to discuss and make of these figures what you will.

References

Bakhieta, Salaheldin Farah Attallah and Lynn, Richard ( 2014). “A Study of the IQ in Palestine.” Intelligence 47: 10-11.

Flynn, J. R. (1998). “Israeli Military IQ Tests: Gender Differences Small; IQ Gains Large.” Journal of Biosocial Science 30: 541-553.

Kaniel, S. and Fisherman, S. (1991). Level of Performance and Distribution of Errors in the Progressive Matrices Test: A Comparison of Ethiopian Immigrant and Native Israeli Adolescents. International Journal of Psychology 26: 25-33.

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158 thoughts on “IQ in Israel and Palestine”

  1. In Malaysia and Singapore, high IQ Chinese and Malay cannot get along. Malay always blame Chinese for anti Islam and racist.

    In reality Malay are just more idle but blame their failure on racial profiling.

    1. Here is a sad criticism of religion (from the link above (She will get to walk in paradise. Hmmm 🙄 )

      Mrs. Hefthi did not know it when her daughter was born, but Ashjan, now 18, would never walk. Her childhood would be filled with terrible colds, sore throats, assorted other illnesses and an obsessive longing to walk and run like her older brothers.

      “Why can’t I walk,” she would shout to her mother when she was 6.

      “It is God’s will,” her mother would say. “In paradise you will walk.”

      “In paradise will I have a magic carpet?” she would ask constantly. “In paradise will I have a horse with wings?”

      Ashjan would never be able to comb her hair or dress or clean herself. Her body would grow only in tiny spurts, her spine curving into the shape of a half-moon. Once she reached adolescence, she would shrivel year by year, and she would most likely die by the time she turned 20.

      1. This is an opportunity to show kindness to someone less well off the an oneself. Spiritual growth comes through meeting hardship head on. If the couple invest in love and kindness and in few religious lies to keep their spirits up they move forward in courage, determination and stoicism.

        In a world of suffering on needs spiritual stregnth. Ultimately one will grow as an indivual from the courageous attitude and comfort a religion can bring to bear on a terrible situation.

  2. Given that first cousin- and FBD- marriage has been proven to depress IQ by 10-16 points, and 60-70% of Palestinian marriages fall into one of these two categories, it is likely that the Palestinians probably have an IQ potential of 100 if they can be persuaded to give up such disgenic practices.

    I’m no fan of the Israelis, but this is one thing that cannot be pinned on them.

    Does anybody know if awareness of the destructiveness of FBD- and first cousin-marriage on the next generation is being disseminated in Palestinian society and/or in the rest of the Arab world at large?

    1. In Pakistan the rate of first cousin marriages is around 70 percent.

      http://www.rightsidenews.com/life-and-science/culture-wars/muslim-inbreeding-impacts-on-intelligence-sanity-health-and-society/

      Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs.).

      1. Oh yeah, forgot to post:

        In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called “consanguinity”) and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants”

    2. Does anybody know if awareness of the destructiveness of FBD- and first cousin-marriage on the next generation is being disseminated in Palestinian society and/or in the rest of the Arab world at large?

      Even if it was, they don’t care, cause they do everything instructed by the prophet.

      1. Robert Lindsay Wrote:

        Hey Cyrus WB! Sorry I hurt your feelings last time.”

        Huh? When did you do that? Also, I still read your blog on a weekly basis. I just don’t post comments much anymore…Not sure why, I just prefer to just read the articles.

      2. Why don’t they show some brotherhood, and give somf of thier oil wealth to the Palestinians? Who are the assholes, the Israelis or Saudis? 🙄

        1. Truly. I have long wondered (besides the obvious anti-Jewish sentiment) why Israel is always blamed for the Palestinian problems, but Arabic countries that also pushed them out and don’t support them or let them come in, are not blamed.

          Your point about their oil wealth is just one more bit that I hadn’t thought of.

          1. Ashkenazi Jews never belonged in the Middle East. Maybe they have a maternal claim to Italy. Say I break into my neighbors house and decide to live there. Is it the fault of other houses on the block that didn’t let me live in their house? Israelis behaved like cuckoo birds, plopping their eggs into a Palestinian nest. Cuckoos may feel entitled but a parents duty is to their own offspring.

          2. Exactly.

            They did come out of the Middle East, but that was long ago. The fathers are from Italy, not the mothers. Or at least I don’t think so.

          3. You’re on the wrong website, hun. We’re Israel-haters here. Not Jew-haters. Israel-haters. To the extent that those two things differ anyway. Put a better way, most of our beef against Jews has to do with Israel. In an antisemitic sense, we are antisemites like the Arabs are antisemites. We don’t much care about Jews in the Diaspora. They don’t act real great there either, but neither do rich and powerful Gentiles either.

            Israel is blamed for their problems because a vast number of their problems are due to Israel. Most Arab countries did not push out Palestinians. Kuwait did because they supported Saddam in the Iraq War. All countries accept Palestinians: Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Yemen, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco. Nobody throws them out or refuses to let them stay there. Even the Kuwaitis let them back in.

    3. The whole thing has to do with identity and psychology.Prophet Mohamedعليه السلام is said to be the most exemplary human for arab/muslims to emulate. Giving up slavery was already a pain(that’s why the IS boys want to bring back slavery. Mind you ISIS islam –> IS is islam –>ISLam); banning polygamy, even in countries(like Burma) with large muslim minority is considered anti-Islamic even though the huge majority of muslim men have only I wife; now you want to ban cousin marriage? These amount to stripping Holy prophet Mohamedعليه السلام naked. As I said before the Holy prophet is the greatest ever arab national hero. Why next? Eating bacon alright? Another thing, ‘reforming’ islam theologically has been largely unsuccessful. I wouldn’t blame them,islam is their identity and being and prophet Mohamed عليه السلام is holy and perfect.You can’t reform perfection
      Another phenomena I almost forgot: The burqa thing. The usual apologetics is that the burka shields the muslim women from the eyes of sexual predators but I doubt sex crime against muslim women would suddenly jump if muslim women in kufir countries give up the burqa. The bottom line is that refusal of assimulation is an easy goal to achieve for muslims in kufir countries and walking in the street with the burqa on is like waving a placard “I’m a muslim”. Identity, little else.

  3. Jason seems a classical liberal, but when he defend all the time the precious one, he show its real face, 🙂

    Not so many people who are bright in the manipulative-argumentative skills, 😉

    1. I’m not a liberal, only independent. If I was claiming to be a liberal and did my style of argumentation, then yes, I’d be an idiot. 🙄

      Note, Swank and others, who were kicked off this blog, would probably try to oppose real science and would totally defend black crime and the Muslim religion.

      I’m not opposed to real science, but I think the WN take on real science is misleading. For instance, they think Darwinian evolution produced low iQ, while I think it’s people sinning against common sense (incest etc..). Also WNs ignore other aspects of IQ formation like nutrition etc..

      1. ”Darwinian evolution produced low iQ”
        Iq is a modern artefact of what we understand partially as intelligence. In the best of perspectives, iq measure cognition OR COGNITIVE abilities but not all dimensions of ”intelligence”.

        For example, if iq really measure perfectly or quasi-perfectly intelligence, so smart classical leftoids couldn’t exist. But should be important too firstly understand what intelligence really is.

        My tip is that we should separate intelligence concept than wisdom and creativity by certain perspectives, because one conceptually pollute one each other.
        Iq correlates with ”mental stability” because mental stability correlate strongly with conformist behavior.

        May nutrition can improve iq, but as iq just express superficially/partially the human intelect, so this possible truth will be weak correlate with intelligence.

        Iq and acquired knowledge via school are proxy for part or certain aspects of intelligence because it express ”memory capacity”, ”disposition to internalize abstract/more-complex knowledge”, ”superficial knowledge or independent manipulation of internalized informations”.

        Human intelligence is far to be just ”rational”, instinct and emotion/intuition are very important too and explain why seems so many smarty types will be so dependent to ” official evidences”.

        ”Also WNs ignore other aspects of IQ formation like nutrition etc..”

        Nutrition look like, again, a magic word in the mouth of people who are in the spectrum of ”desilusional prior thinking about black populations” (on average).

        Just give better nutrition and you will have complete equalization of ”iq scores”.

        But personality type is also VERY important for behavior and intelligence.

        What is the problem to accept that there are a higher proportion of low functioning sociopath among blacks than other PRINCIPAL racial trunks***

        I’m saying ”black skin cause this phenomena” but exactly the ”darwinian evolution”, in other words, is changeable and is not intrinsical of black nature, because populations change.

        Emotion, intuition and instinct are important and functional when ”they” are working together with rationality.

        1. The environment is horrible for black Americans, has been so since the 1960s. The enviornment is horrible for Africans, as their traditional culture has fallen.

      2. Bismullah Iraakman Iraakhim…
        IMO,it’s completely unnecessary to push the arabs/muslims to ban cousin marriage, its their choice not yours nor mind unless the country one lives pays heavy medial expenses to treat disabled muslim kids. East Asian countries used to practice polygamy, now no more, entirely out of internal cultural dynamics. Let arabs/muslims decide for themselves. If the teachings of the Prophet muhamed is more important, so be it. Look:
        1)Ignorance is biss
        2)Why gay marriage alright but not 1st cousin marriage? Both spread disease/health problems
        http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/robert-spencer

        1. Well said. A thoughtful libertarian response to the independence from whites within a non white culture such as that of Arabs.

          The only point I would disagree on is the heavy medical costs to the health industry in the west of this consanguineous pattern of marriage. Here in the uk we take such costs in our stride and continue to show respect to the Arab and Muslim cultural and religious values. A wealthy western country can easily afford such costs without losing its way in disrespectful bans which impede the human rights of Arabs and Muslims.

          Now it could be argued that such bans are necessary for a the health of the children. I agree it could be argued that way, but that shows disrespect to the way of Mohammed, peace be upon him, whose example is paramount for a faithful Muslim.Life for a Muslim is about obedience to the teachings and example of the prophet, peace be upon him.

    2. Jason has a soft bleeding heart pumping Kool-Aid deep down. I think his views may be more personal than worldly. A straight White Christian of German descent falsely labeled a gay Jewish nigger by the local bullies and church.

  4. I’m not ”fan” of arabs, on average, or better, i’m not a fan or even respectful about ANY ”culture” ”or” ”religion”. But just look for arab world before western occupation and ask if ,middle eastern always was a ”powder keg”. It don’t mean nothing like ”middle eastern have a great culture” or ”woman there always had lived in the paradise”, of course not. But sometimes you need break the superficial coherence of this kind of homogeneous narrative to give priority to the most important pieces.

    1. Places like Pakistan (70 percent inbred) are full of hot headed angry people mostly cause of inbreeding. But you can’t say that in public, cause it reeks of eugenics, and makes you sound like a Nazi. For instance, one won’t hear an NBC newscast where they mention anything about eugenics. Occasionally, though someone will read harsh New York Times articles etc.. about inbreeding in the Muslim world.

      1. Reading your comments about other cultures and religions shows you are disrespectful. You should show respect to inbreeding as it is a practise advocated by the Islamic prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him, who encouraged it. It is a religious tradition, but you are disrespectful to non white cultures and people. You should make a public apology to Indians, Arabs, South Koreans, and by extension Muslims, Buddhists, and Muslims.

        Down with your disrespectful Hindu-Buddhist-Islamo phobia. You make a special poin of hating non whites and their cultures.

        Down with your disrespectful minded use of the genocidal western word to describe as Nazis people of a different culture and racial groupings to you. Can you not see the hypocrisy on open display in othering different people in this disrectful way. Just what the national social did to the Jews, when they discribed them in so many disrespectful ways.

        You are disrectful and need a course in sensitivity training. With you around there is no place that non whites can call a safe space. I hope you can get on a sensitivity course to help you to learn to respect people, from western feminists, who have very thoughtfully put together such courses for disrespectful people like you.

        You would do well to look to your own religious tradition of Christianity and repent for all the harsh language you employ in dealing with others who differ from you in culture, Religion and ethnicity.

        1. The above is addressed to Jason Y. Let us hope as the Arabs say, inshallah, he comes to success by following a better straighter way.I will leave it to the diligent amongst you to look up the Islamic References in that sentence. There are three references. Can you find them?

        2. Why should I respect people who marry their cousin? Why should I respect people who abuse thier children? Because it’s child abuse to purposely bring in deformed children.

          1. The real problem is long-term inbreeding. Most humans have an ancestor that bred with a cousin.

            I think Jews started as rebel Arabs. Their military was the basic pre-Assyrian Semitic type. They were average to below average. Their architecture became bigger with King Herod and that may be due to Roman influence. Their IQ evolved to great heights in Medieval Europe.

            Jews became a different race in Europe. Their true elitism likely sprang from being a bit smarter than everyone. A high bridge from Europe to the the Middle East.

        3. Muslim populations look on average normal for me, i think that inbreed theory sometimes look exaggerated. Of course, correlate with many problems, but specially when it is correlate with ”bad” or ”archaic” traits. Parsees have higher rates of inbreeding**

        4. Now it could be argued that such bans are necessary for a the health of the children. I agree it could be argued that way, but that shows disrespect to the way of Mohammed, peace be upon him, whose example is paramount for a faithful Muslim.Life for a Muslim is about obedience to the teachings and example of the prophet, peace be upon him.

          ?? Exactly the point. It’s like where I live in the southern USA mountains, there are some country people who think retarded kids are special blessing from God. (They test thier faith to see if they’re more “pure of heart”). OK, that’s sweet and all, but what’s left out is the fact, The country people had incest which produced the disabled child. 🙄

          It’s like in the BIble Jesus said, “Nor did this man sin or his parents”.(in reference to a disabled man) However, I don’t think that verse is always applcable.

        5. Ok I aplogize to Adult South Koreans for mocking the disabled the same way 10 year old kids would. I apologize to them for looking down on black people as trash. I’m so sorry. 🙄

    1. Muslim populations look on average normal for me, i think that inbreed theory sometimes look exaggerated. Of course, correlate with many problems, but specially when it is correlate with ”bad” or ”archaic” traits. Parsees have higher rates of inbreeding**

      Why would it be exxagerated? Stats are stats.

        1. Even if the genetic problems aren’t apparent it might produce enough of them to massively cause disfunction in the Arab world, and it has. In addition, one inbred person might suffer no problems, but the next generation has a good chance, or the next etc…

  5. Quote by Beheadings-Are-Painless

    The only point I would disagree on is the heavy medical costs to the health industry in the west of this consanguineous pattern of marriage. Here in the uk we take such costs in our stride and continue to show respect to the Arab and Muslim cultural and religious values. A wealthy western country can easily afford such costs without losing its way in disrespectful bans which impede the human rights of Arabs and Muslims.

    Why should the west pay, especially since the deformities are highly preventable, mainly by stopping first cousin marriage? The west isn’t made of gold and can provide from everyone, much less people with no responsiblity.

    1. Sorry meant to say,

      “The west isn’t made of gold and cannot provide for everyone, much less people with no responsiblity.”

      Don’t pay me no mind. I’m imbred. 🙄

      1. OK, then why shouldn’t the Moslem invaders “respect” their hosts by not saddling them with unnecessary extra costs? That could be THEIR investment into the civil western society!

        When you say something like “respect is not free”, it makes it sound like you want the Civilized World to pay for their enemies to keep being bad. That’s usually called “racketeering”, right?

        1. Definitely, a people in which 50 percent of thier group practices first cousin marriage is not being responsible by a long shot. That’s putting a huge burden on health services and releasing many violent and/or non-productive people (borderline mentally challenged).

          At least some other groups, like African Americans are not purposely practicing incest that I’m aware of.

  6. You ask why should you respect people who marry their first cousin. It is called getting on with people. Respect is natural. I personally do not agree with marrying a first cousin, but if it is part of a major world religion’s code of conduct than you have to deal with the reality of disrespecting the whole religious culture of many people.

    Why not agree to disagree and maintain civility and respect.

    Indeed as part of this civility and respect concentrate on things that link us a humans. Like enjoying a great cup of coffee with cousin marrying non whites, a Hindu road sweeper and a Buddhist billionaire.

    It can only happen with respect. Get rid of you Hindu-islamo-Buddhist phobia and you can then relate with civility and respect with the vast majority of the human race that resides in Asia.

    Just some thoughts to help us get along Jason Y.

    1. Why should we respect something we know to be bad? It would be like stopping toilet-training and respecting THAT as a separate “culture”!
      This is exactly the problem with Political Correctness: Eventually you get so caught up in not hurting FEELINGS that you stop correcting the bad actions.

      Sometimes feelings NEED to be hurt!
      In America, for instance, we hurt a lot more than FEELINGS when we disrespected the culture of those who owned slaves — by forcibly ending it!
      Why should we be any more gentle with people who are NOT our own?

  7. Quote by Beheading is Painless’

    Down with your disrespectful Hindu-Buddhist-Islamo phobia. You make a special poin of hating non whites and their cultures.

    Sensitivity training my eye… Why don’t these non-white cultures, and also those white jerk-offs on Stormfront go thu such training? Iv’e seen these non-white cultures. Often they’re a miillion times less politically correct than the worst redneck in the USA.

    1. Sorry for the all bold. Meant to bold on “Sensitivity my eye” Don’t want to seem like a jack-ass here. 🙄

    2. Everyone should go through the training including Fading Light etc.

      This system of training is uniquely western and so it would be imperialist if it imposed wholesale on less developed cultures. But it is good standard to aim for. Those less developed cultures will arrive at a similar understanding, one hopes, in their own time depending on where they are historically in their development.

      1. Everyone should go through the training including Fading Light etc

        No shit. 😆 (I mean respectively) Yeah, he’s definitely a devil. Evil to the core.

        Nonetheless, if FadingLight mentioned some reasonable things, like the fact Muslims commited mass incest (50 percent of all Muslims), wouldn’t that be a good reason to limit immigration to the west, and also to harshly criticize Islam as a religion? ” 🙄

        1. Fly is a female from the uk. So she mentioned the incest thing. So you ask is that a good reason to limit immigration?

          Ok first of all keeping respectful is important. Now immigration needs to be PC so that is not the solution. The solution is that politicians should not be able to import voters.

        2. But isn’t that what it boils down to? People with a loser platform giving “respect” and freebies to outsiders who get away with not obeying the law in exchange for votes?

  8. I think the reason people like “Beheading is Painless” don’t see the real side of certain groups like South Koreans, is cause they’re bought off. I mean, if these people are paying you, then your not going to insult them, or see how they really are. 🙄

    Also, possibly they are ignorant of certain groups, cause they’ve never traveled to meet any of them, hence they just make opinions based on hearsay and TV etc..

    1. It’s kind of like a black guy in the old south USA who is paid well, and can’t see the evil the white people do to his people.

      1. And he would not see the whole picture as their is plenty of evil black people do to each other. The full picture is needed. So both pieces of knowledge need to be present but not generalising the information to include every white and every black person Keeps the balance and civility and respect in the conversation.

    2. “Beheading is Painless” wants to get a long with everyone. Which can be a wise move, as it’s good mental well-being, and for business (You don’t want to insult your customer). Nonetheless, such a “tolerant” attitude blinds you to how people really are.

      1. Of course he could be just someone not so sensitive. But then again, you have to have a somewhat feminine side or “sissy side: so to speak, to see that some people just are piece of shit, to see that they’re moral failures.

        1. It is true some people are moral failures, for example if they murder someone. But being disrespectful is a also a moral failure, albeit on a much smaller scale.

      2. No not blind, seeing differences, but remaining respectful.

        Now let us take a difference. For example women in Afghanistan wear the burka. Femenist in Canada every year have a slut walk. I respect both, but my concern is with health. Being away from the sun can be bad for health for the afghan women.

        The Canadian femenist slut walkers are fine as they are not damaging their health. In fact healthwise they will get some sun on them during the rally. Fine. So I see two different cultures. I respect them both but I do have a legitimate concern about getting enough sun for one of them. So I remain concerned and respectful.

        Also I would not go to the slut walk as it is meant to be a day of protest by women against the crime of rape. A very serous issue indeed and a safe space for women needs to be respected by my male absense. I can do that easy.

    3. No one needs to is respect people by generalising a grudge caused by meeting a few bad apples. If I travelled to the south and met some klansmen, I would not generalise this for all white people.

      And no i am not paid. I am just civil and rational and respectful

      Let us talk about rednecks. A term of abuse. Why use such a horrible term. These are southern people in the US who for historical reasons think differently. As long as they are civil and respectful to me, I certainly will not be calling anyone such a demeaning name. I will simply try to get along. But, of course, I will be cautious and not venture to a klan rally.

      True I have never met Koreans, but I do not need to because a standard of respect for someone’s Buddhist culture and ethnicity is all one needs. It is a universal and even if I went to South Korea and met a few bad apples, I would not generalise a grudge to the entire population of South Korea.

      1. The first sentence should read
        no one needs to disrespect people by generalising a grudge.
        Sorry gettin carried away typing and not checking enough.

    4. Fly?I meant FL.

      FL is the leading poster on stormfront. I personally think she is wasting her life by moderating and posting her own stuff so much. It makes no difference to the situation in which the UK. Now she likes being white and that is fine by me. But she is not practical and that goes for all the posters on stormfront. Not a single one has a solution to the voter importation corruption at the root of the western democratic process.

      Now a good student of PC does not need to actually meet trans people, Korean people, Shia Muslims. Why? because he has universal position of respect. If he see a Jew, a Hindu, a Muslim or a a trans person or White femenists at a slut walk in Canada, he knows this is the diversity of life on Earth.

      He remains respectful to a trans woman at a slut walk in a swimsuit as he does to an afghan Hindu on his way to the temple to pray to hanuman the monkey God. He does this by understanding women have every right to protest rape culture and he respects a plurality of religious processes in which humans fulfil their spiritual needs. However, He leaves the theological issues to theologians.

      As a PC person he maintains a respect In diversity mode of thinking. So since PC is a political position he would allow slut walks, but as a male person stay away. Now there have been a few women who feel that slut walks do not do any good. So if they want they could attend as long as civil order was maintained. So even here in a politically charged environment PC does offer respectful solutions to two opposing sides of the debate. People think PC is the right way or nothing, but that is simply not true. I watched a slut walk recently on YouTube and the two sides started a dialogue. So certainly women with differing views can teach us something! They disagreed on tactics but remained respectful!

      1. Despite what conservative blowhards say, PC is necessary on places like American college campuses, because without it, there would be too many bullies picking on foreign students etc..

        Myself, the most hate I saw on this one big campus (a major university not a community college) was glaring. Of course, any hate beyond that would only be some jerk who is asking for it (reaping a bad karma).

        1. Homophobia is a big problem as white students can accept foreign students, and people of other races, but religion and hyper-masculinity refuses to accept homosexuality.

        2. I was a guy wearing a soviet T shirt yesterday in my computer class. He must have been Jewish. Just kidding. 🙄 However, in the south, I’m shocked anyone would openly wear such a shirt.

      2. One thing they (Stormfront) holds on to is the idea the third world breeds too much, but the white world breeds normal. That’s not true at all, the white world breeds too little, the third world breeds normally.

        1. It’s also true politicians are buying votes, but these immigrants wouldn’t want to come to begin with, if their homelands weren’t being wrecked by NWO free trade. Of course, some WNs claim they come because of over-population, but then again, as I said, they’re breeding normally.

          I don’t think that large of people would come simply cause of greed, but then again lots of people would emigrate for a gold rush. 😆

        2. I don’t see NWO free trade wrecking the Arab world as with Latin America, but I could be wrong. What is motivating the Arab migration? Could it be war, or just the fact the socities are just generally full of poverty, aside from the oil countries.

        3. There is a dichotomy in the Arab world, Arab countries that are oil rich , Saudi Arabia would be the prime example of this and those countries without much oil Jordan and Syria. The western and mainly US dicking around in the internal affairs of of ME countries has caused instability which helped lead to a refugee crisis.
          This isn’t the only cause, we are warming the planet this is going to hit areas that are already hot and or dry the hardest.
          There was a recent report that said the Persian Gulf could be uninhabitable by 2100 due to rising temperatures. As global temperatures and sea levels rise this is going to push people towards the poles and inland. What we see now is the tip of the iceberg and it’s mostly caused by first world CO2 emissions.

  9. The verse in the bible is Essentially practical. It means lets heal this man, in other words it challenges us to find a solution. Jesus cured the child.

    No matter what precautions we take their will always be some calamity or illness. This is life. A practical approach to the suffering encountered by Jesus here is entirely the right way to deal with suffering.

      1. True and in an ideal world such a thing like incest would not happen, but we do not live in such a world. We live in a world of imperfect humans who make all kinds of mistakes. So let us do the best we can with a view to educate and heal the problems that arise

        A good example is the genital miutilation of baby boys in the Islamic and Jewish culture. I think this is bad thing to do to a child as it is medically not necessary for babies to have this done to them. A baby is happy as he is is. The vast majority of babies do not have this mutilation and they are fine.

        Now I have a different view. But I respect Muslim and Jewish religion and culture. I politely disagree with this aspect of their religious tradition, and that is that. There is no need to use harsh language to describe such people as monsters etc. So in a western politically correct culture you can disagree but remain civil. And of course they are the ones who suffer the consequences of such mutilation as the foreskin has sensitive nerve endings which are taken away and so this makes sex a less pleasurable occasion. There is a YouTube channel where an Jewish boy has given up on relation completely because his parents did this to him. In other words he suffers the consequence.

        Now in Christian, Buddhist and Hindu traditions such people do not have this mutilation, but that does not give them the right to use harsh language against Jews and Muslims. A polite disagreement is all that can be hoped for in the world in which we live.

        1. Yeah, but it’s more than “in an ideal world”; the incest in the middle east is/was easiily preventable. The mass incest isn’t coming by accident in the middle east but is deliberate.

  10. I have nothing against other races of people, and wish the best for them, but I think the nation origin of the immigrants needs to be improved, rather than for many non-white people to immigrate to western lands.

    Of course, some non-whites, well blacks are already here in the USA, like people to run Chinese restaurants and stuff are fine. However, a mass movement of non-whites into white nations isn’t positive, especially the mass movement coming from Latin America.

    1. This is an interesting topic.

      The nature of the world is essentially white and non white. So you do have a point but the problem here is numbers. I believe the vast majority of whites are happy to live in their sovereign nations and want them to remain that way.

      But the political elites want votes and do not hesitate to import votes. So whites do this to themselves. There system is essentially corrupt. The only nation which is non corrupt is Finland and up to now they have shown no real sign of corruption in the democratic process with regard to voter importation. In the USA both parties are fully on board with this program and fully expect to reap the be benefits. Indeed both parties are mad about the Hispanic vote. So blame western corrupt elites.

      Political correctness is the healing balm on relations that corrupt elites have created. See not everything they do is bad. Sure they created a problem due to their corrupt electoral vote rigging policies but they came up with PC to help society cope with these changes.

      1. But PC doesn’t cope with anything, it just masks the problem until it blows up bigtime, like that Dylan kid, or worse makes us feel guilty about wanting to keep our countries ours.

        If PC and respecting other cultures is so wonderful, why don’t nonwhite countries try it? Saudi Arabia could start allowing churches instead of fatwas calling for their destruction, China could make Affirmative Action for non-Chinese, Mexico could elect an American President.
        All these sound ridiculous, right? But white countries are expected:
        ·To allow a terrorist cult to build Mosques
        ·Affirmative Action laws to advantage our enemies over ourselves
        ·To elect non-self President–First Black, but Mexicans also aspire to the head slot. Given what Mexican leadership did to their own country, not just NO, but HELL NO!

  11. Quote by “beheading is natural”

    Everyone should go through the training including Fading Light etc.

    This system of training is uniquely western and so it would be imperialist if it imposed wholesale on less developed cultures. But it is good standard to aim for. Those less developed cultures will arrive at a similar understanding, one hopes, in their own time depending on where they are historically in their development.

    But why? 🙄 If I see my Korean boss asking our co-workers, “Is it ok to have a negro work with us?.” 😆 I’m serious he used the word negro, Another Korean said, “That nigger can’t help us.” (in reference to Obama) Gosh I’m shocked 😆

    That’s just peaches and sunshine, right? But a white guy sure as hell would never say something like that back home in his western nation. No way.

    All around in Korea, and the same is in the Phillippines, China, etc.. you see horrible racism towards darker people Even I had a Mexican relative, and his remarks about blacks would offend Archie Bunker. 🙄

    As for blacks, they call whites, Mexicans, etc.. every name in the book, and have zero guilt about it. However, you can’t criticize their racism, and also their barbaric backward views of the disabled. The non-whites constantly use the word “retard”, mock people in wheelchairs, you name it.

    Because of white imperalism, the only assholes can be white, not non-white.

    1. One of the most shocking things I saw in Asia, was the fact that any deformity or even mild disability 🙄 and they won’t give you a job.

      However, white people in western nations are supposed to show kindness to these Asians, after they immigrate, knowing that back home in their home country, many of them are intolerant monsters.

      1. Wow! what harsh language. Why call someone an intolerant monster? Why not use language to educate said people. Or do you assume they can not learn?

        Whites were schooled out of slave trading, nazism, apartheid, and Jim Crow laws. Why can not Asians be schooled out of ablist attitudes towards the disabled or do you assume that they, being monsters are completely beyond hope.

        You language is inflammatory and disrespectful and shows that other people, in this case Asians, are in your view incapable of learning new ways of thinking.

        See you have used the terms redneck to describe whites of the south and intolerant monsters to describe Asians.

    2. Look I am the one saying that whites have set an excellent standard of political correctness in language. Now you are not exactly PC yourself despite living in an advanced western country that set an excellent example. But you critique Asians on their language despite using terms like red neck, intolerant monster etc. Pot calling the kettle…..

      And it is nothing to do with western imperialism it is working towards an excellent standard of civility in language and respect for other humans despite they being less educated and living in the south, being disabled, living in Asia etc.

    3. Of course you can criticise their racism. But if you start using harsh language like intolerant monsters and rednecks well the pot and kettle comes to mind. Racism is racism whether it comes from a Buddhist, a Muslim or a Hindu, a white in the south or a black guy in the uk saying all whites are racist. Of corse they are not and to say such a thing is disrespectful and ignorant.

      1. If PC and respecting other cultures is so wonderful, why don’t nonwhite countries try it? Saudi Arabia could start allowing churches instead of fatwas calling for their destruction, China could make Affirmative Action for non-Chinese, Mexico could elect an American President.
        All these sound ridiculous, right? But white countries are expected:
        ·To allow a terrorist cult to build Mosques
        ·Affirmative Action laws to advantage our enemies over ourselves
        ·To elect non-self President–First Black, but Mexicans also aspire to the head slot. Given what Mexican leadership did to their own country, not just NO, but HELL NO!

        Can you see where you’re being hypocritical?

        1. China already gives affirmative action to non-Chinese, in fact China has the biggest affirmative action program on Earth, after India, or course.

    4. It’s not because of “white imperialism”, it’s because we hold OURSELVES to rules we don’t hold our rivals to–THAT is Political Correctness!

      When an Asian or Mexican says something racist, it’s “Oh, it’s so cute when they call a spade a spade!”
      When a white says EXACTLY THE SAME THING, it’s “OMG, what a horrible racist for calling a spade a spade!”

      We get so paranoid because of PC. Why don’t we give ourselves the same freedom we give others? It’s OUR society, right?
      And how can we ever bring them forward if we don’t chastise them for being backward? They’re happy at their point in development, if we don’t tell them they’re backward, they’ll never have impetus to move forward!

      Incidentally, some claim “call a spade a spade” is racist in and of itself, so the racism rent-seeking will never be over, never too small a nit to pick!

  12. To be frank though, I don’t like rednecks in the USA. Some of them pick on me. At Wal Mart, he said “You suck, nigger. 😆 but of course the coward never stuck around long enough to get a reaction from me.

    Also, this same guy was probably spreading shit about me at a community college. I’m sure that’s why somebody flipped me off once, and this redneck bitch called me a nigger, giggling and laughing as they do.

    So I don’t care for intolerance from non-whites in ther home nation and I don’t care for it in the US.

    But however, I do recognize that the leftist agenda of racism and hypocrisy, as I mentioned above (with non-whites being racist and cruel to the disabled) fuels a backlash with these backwoods dickheads like the guy I mentioned who picked on me, though I did nothing to him.

    Note this was such a terrorist attack that I don’t even know the guy’s name, but he probably lives up one of these hollers out here.

    1. Note at the college, I only took math classes, no humanities classes where I could have voiced opinions about social issues etc.. The only reason I was a target is cause of my free speech on Facebook, where I spoke my mind. But don’t I have that right?

      1. Jason y I appreciate your apology earlier on . It really is a good thing I am teaching. PC is a soothing balm. It means the harsh language leaves one’s skull; and the differences remain among humans; but a cool ness takes over the fevered brow.

        Indeed the diverse nature of the world is accepted.

        Or as the Muslims say it is the will of Allah or inshallah.

        Or as the Hindus and Buddhist say it is karma

        Or as the femenists say it is the patriarchy

        So many views. So much information. Being respectful and PC is the only way for us humans to get along.

        1. I think only religion and understanding can make people more kind. PC is kind of fake. Nonetheless, without the threat of PC (lawsuits, harassment charges, shaming), a lot of people would be 1000 times more a jerk, than what they are now. Also the propoganda makes certain areas nicer than they would otherwise be, even if it’s fake.

          On the other hand, PC shuts up real feelings and this bottled up negativity can sometimes explode and be very bad.

        2. Most people would just say non-PC behavior is immature. Unfortunately in a natural environment a lot of people say immature mean things, like say they comment whether someone is fat or skinny to thier face etc..

        3. I don’t think fat jokes are as funny as they used to be. 😆 Back in the days of the show “Married with Children” they were funny, but now they just seem cruel or stupid.

          Nowadays, people are negatively targeting bad people, as it should be, as opposed to bad looking people.

        4. Quote by Jason Y,

          I don’t think fat jokes are as funny as they used to be. 😆 Back in the days of the show “Married with Children” they were funny, but now they just seem cruel or stupid.

          Nowadays, people are negatively targeting bad people, as it should be, as opposed to bad looking people.

          Bad looking as a shallow society claims is bad looking which is often false.

        5. PC IS immature. If something is bad, call it out into the open so it can be addressed and fixed. PC means pretending it’s OK until something REALLY bad happens, then pretending not to know where that came from!

          It’s not a balm, it’s makeup on a bruise.

          The best way for people to get along is not to RESPECT the bad, but REMOVE it.
          Otherwise, we could makeup “cultures” where rape, slavery, even murder are OK. Do we tolerate it because it’s part of their “culture” or punish it because it’s against the law ?

          If the former, then we owe the South half of America reparations, not the eternally whiny, greedy, and violent Black population, right?

  13. Most Koreans, Chinese,, Mexicans, Filipinos etc.. are decent people, but hold backward views. I wouldn’t say they’re monsters necessarily, but their outdated prejudice and intolerance is offending to an American.

    1. The fact is holding backward views is a terrible thing, but again the people most affected by these views tend to be the people who hold on them. We see this on the Internet. Someone gets a YouTube channel and becomes a holocaus denier. Sure he or she is ignorant, but pause for a moment and think just how much education this person needs. It is a huge task. Who knows maybe he or she may come out of this nonsense

      Education is the key but with some people it is an uphill task.

      1. What holocaust deniers seems can’t explain is about the ”scientific” experiments in gypsies, jews and other people… euthanasia of people with mental conditions. They need explain it. Invention *

        1. Amen. 😆 I totally agree. That’s one big reason why I don’t like WNs and don’t want them in power at all.

    2. Once again, why are we so mean to our own “racists”, or people with bad habits but we have to bend over for the foreign invaders and their more blatant racism and WORSE habits?

      We killed 600,000 of OUR OWN people to end slavery, but now we bring in people who think there’s nothing wrong with slavery–and “escape” punishment when they are caught with slaves!
      Hypocrisy doesn’t seem like NEARLY a strong enough word there!

      http://mic.com/articles/65245/saudi-princess-who-may-have-kept-a-slave-in-california-goes-free

      1. Actually slavery in the US southern states was a million times better than slavery in the Arab world. However, African Americans, in order to give the finger to white culture, which I can understand a little bit, want to convert to Islam. 🙄

        I’d put the blame more at ignorance of real history, as if African Americans, would want to read the real history anyways.

        1. Why would Blacks (or anyone else) give the Finger to the culture that not only FORGIVES their repeated “mistakes” — on up to burning down whole CITIES — but PAYS for them to keep breeding and making ever-more violent “mistakes”?

          Why bite/provoke the Hand that Feeds?
          Are they just looking for boundaries, or do they really forget whose basement they’re living in?

    3. Since when are Koreans backward? Rural Chinese, especially minorities, ok, sure, but SOUTH Koreans? Lol naw.

  14. Could it be some scheme to make the democrats look tough for the new presidential election, in which Republicans are highly favored? 🙄

    1. Are you just here for comic relief ?
      Everything you say is just such faux news junkie whore Limbaugh bullshit I can do no more than laugh at you.

      1. Are you just here for comic relief ?
        Everything you say is just such faux news junkie whore Limbaugh bullshit I can do no more than laugh at you.

        Half the Arab world being imbred is true. Should some people pretend it isn’t, just because they don’t like so called Jewish domination of the west? 🙄

      2. The comic relief comment was directed at EPGAH not you. Sorry about not being clear on that.

        The paradigm has shifted on Presidential elections especially since one party has gone completely off the cliff.
        A party can’t lose the women’s vote by 8-10 points and the Hispanic vote by 40% and win a national election.
        For example GWB received 35% and 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2000 and 2004. He lost the popular vote 1/2 a percent in 2000 and won it by 2.4% in 2004. They have only grown since then. Don’t be shocked if Arizona goes to the Dems in 16.
        The betting houses see the Dems as about 65% likely to win the White House.
        The Dems have a major advantage in the Electoral College basically if the Dems win all the states that were won by Clinton twice, Gore, Kerry and Obama twice all they would need is Florida to get past the 270 needed to win the general. There are are more swing states than just Florida and most are lean Dem. I’m tempted to move NV and CO out of the swing state category because of the GOP’s Hispanic problem.

    2. How the hell is the GOP favored to win the election? Outside of the faux news bubble no one thinks the GOP is favored. It’s simple electoral math the Dems start with about 240 EC votes in the bag the Reps with about 180 and 270 are needed to win.

  15. Quote by Hasdrupal

    There is a dichotomy in the Arab world, Arab countries that are oil rich , Saudi Arabia would be the prime example of this and those countries without much oil Jordan and Syria. The western and mainly US dicking around in the internal affairs of of ME countries has caused instability which helped lead to a refugee crisis.
    This isn’t the only cause, we are warming the planet this is going to hit areas that are already hot and or dry the hardest.
    There was a recent report that said the Persian Gulf could be uninhabitable by 2100 due to rising temperatures. As global temperatures and sea levels rise this is going to push people towards the poles and inland. What we see now is the tip of the iceberg and it’s mostly caused by first world CO2 emissions.

    How much is it the US dicking around in the Arab world, and how much is it the fact the Arab world is so messed up due to imbreeding? Half the population is married to their first cousin. 🙄

    I wish what I was saying was a joke, but it isn’t. Probably this does sound like Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage BS, but what else can i say? 🙄

    1. Of course, the imperalist oppressor always wants to accuse the conquered of being responsible for thier own problems. However, let’s look at science and history to see how much is to blame on either side, the colonizer, and the colonized.

    2. A big part of what is happening in Syria was caused by a drought that led to several bad harvests. Now no one can definitively say that drought was caused by climate change anymore than one can say super storm Sandy was caused by it what we can say is that climate change will lead to things like drought and super storms.

      1. That ‘s interesting but note if this was sub-saharan Africa, white nationalists would try to somehow pin IQ is the problem, not the weather. They would say the low IQ kept them from responding and/or preparing adequetely for the disaster.

        1. The fact of the matter is that a lot of history was about weather Europe got colder Rome fell, France had serveral bad harvests and the king was beheaded. It’s not as exciting as war and rebellion, but weather has been the major factor in human history even good weather.

        2. Quote by hasdrupal

          The fact of the matter is that a lot of history was about weather Europe got colder Rome fell, France had serveral bad harvests and the king was beheaded. It’s not as exciting as war and rebellion, but weather has been the major factor in human history even good weather.

          HA ha. 😆 Not according to WNs. In their history, Rome fell cause Roman women screwed black men. No joke.

        3. Hmm, in MY history, it was because Rome let in too many barbarians for cheap labor, who promptly revolted when they were told to obey the law or leave. Sounds like America’s current problem with our misbehaving “cheap” labor invaders, doesn’t it?

          The military had been cut drastically to pay for Bread&Circuses, so they couldn’t fight such a massive invasion that they had opened the doors for. Not only has America’s military budget been cut, the pensions and other benefits for ex-military were cut to give money to illegals!
          I guess in hopes they don’t revolt and overthrow the country?

          But don’t worry, in my history, the women were raped by barbarians then by Moors. So yes, they had sex with nonwhites, but it was less than voluntary. Remember the scene in True Romance where the thug taunts a Mafia don that his Grandma got raped by a nigger? How’d that turn out for it?

        4. The comic relief comment was directed at EPGAH not you. Sorry about not being clear on that.
          You wrong about thinking the GOP is favored to win the 16 election. Betting houses see the Dems as about 65% likely to hold the White House. The GOP needs to get about 40% of the Hispanic vote and lose the women’s vote by no less the 5% to win in the GE, those numbers give some idea of how difficult winning back the White House is for them.

        5. The comic relief comment wasn’t directed at you. Sorry about not being clear on that.

          The paradigm has shifted on Presidential elections especially since one party has gone completely off the cliff.
          A party can’t lose the women’s vote by 8-10 points and the Hispanic vote by 40% and win a national election.
          For example GWB received 35% and 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2000 and 2004. He lost the popular vote 1/2 a percent in 2000 and won it by 2.4% in 2004. They have only grown since then. Don’t be shocked if Arizona goes to the Dems in 16.
          The betting houses see the Dems as about 65% likely to win the White House.
          The Dems have a major advantage in the Electoral College basically if the Dems win all the states that were won by Clinton twice, Gore, Kerry and Obama twice all they would need is Florida to get past the 270 needed to win the general. There are are more swing states than just Florida and most are lean Dem. I’m tempted to move NV and CO out of the swing state category because of the GOP’s Hispanic problem.

      2. You’re seriously positing that Assad starving its own people was caused by Global Warming? He could’ve fed EVERYONE, but chose to ONLY feed those that voted for him. Arguably the clearest-cut case of corruption since Pol Pot, who ALSO used starvation as a weapon!

        (China and Russia’s Communist regimes did too, but Pol Pot was more recent, before you raise that obvious objection!)

        1. As far as EP-GAH goes, I think we should be bold and tell the truth, however sometimes we might seem cruel, mean, or rude, and as BEHEADING-PAINLESS pointed out, that’s not a good way to be.

          Nonetheless, some facts we can’t deny, for instance, Muslim imbreeding, encouraged by their religion, which brings horrible birth defects and is destroying thier civilization (via low IQ, mental illness etc..)

          I mean, your talking about a whole group of people marrying thier first cousin, or descended from people who married their first cousin, or both. 🙄

          Of course, you can’t speak your mind on Islam without the risk of beheading etc.. like Salman Rushdie. I don’t know how far I could go, without something violent happening. So far my discussion with Beheading-is-natural is still civil and peaceful. 🙄

        2. I think Epgah’s style is a bit mean, even though, as Ep-Gah pointed out, the opposition can be cruel and mean. I guess it’s a case of “two wrongs don’t make a right” 🙄 I wouldn’t stoop down to some black guy’s style of calling white people “honkey” 🙄 by doing the same.

          Also I disagree with Ep-gah who seems to think white people wree ALWAYS RIGHT, 🙄 That’s ludicrous. However, in many instances, like the inbreeding issue in the Muslim world, it’s obvious that the Muslims have a weak defense or comeback to criticism of thier practice.

        3. Ep-gah makes some good points, but is way too far to the racist right. The actual truth seems to be more toward the center, though that seems wimpy for some people.

        4. OK, where do you put the center then? How do you make Moslems stop inbreeding and stop beheading whoever “offends” them?

          Especially when you have Moslems going to Christian PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES explicitly to be offended?
          http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2011/10/lawsuit-says-crosses-at-catholic-university-offensive-prevent-muslim-prayers.php

          Or picking up French newspapers with political cartoons that skewer EVERYONE. Why do they expect to be immune?

          Voltaire said “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
          Voltaire was writing before the first real human and social rights movements. These movements have made huge changes in our world but part of that is a new, “hyper-awareness”/oversensitivity to criticizing DOWN the social hierarchy as opposed to up it.

          Political correctness gone mad is where someone can be offended to the point of seeking legal repercussions and possibly ruining someones life over a word. Where a basic description or simple expression is taken offensively. Where watching what one says is pushed into the points of ridiculousness.
          I see political correctness as when someone becomes offended by more common descriptions, or even describing their actions, or something completely irrelevant. Calling someone Black can be seen as politically incorrect sometimes for example, but there was a lawsuit where an inefficient bureaucrat was called a “BLACK Hole of paperwork”.
          (Black Hole is a theoretical object of essentially infinite mass, pulls everything in, nothing gets out.)

          Or calling Moslems violent savages, inbred or not, given their actions in the last 20 years, that’s still TRUE. Whether it’s “polite” or not is irrelevant, especially as refugees are raping their hosts now.
          Now THAT’S ungrateful!

        5. Whites aren’t ALWAYS right, but we’re right enough to make better countries, right?
          And as long as THEY are pouring into OUR countries, why shouldn’t WE make the rules?
          Especially given what THEIR rules did to THEIR countries!

        6. Quote by EP-GAH

          Especially when you have Moslems going to Christian PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES explicitly to be offended?

          Muslims are special case, apart from African Americans, etc. As I said before in another comment on another thread, we can’t have muslims in white nations at all. They are too violent, and their violence isn’t confined to thier own neighborhoods. Also they threaten the free culture too much.

          Also, since the violence comes from first cousin marriages, and they aren’t going to stop, it doesn’t seem curable.

        7. Quote by EP-GAH

          Whites aren’t ALWAYS right, but we’re right enough to make better countries, right?
          And as long as THEY are pouring into OUR countries, why shouldn’t WE make the rules?
          Especially given what THEIR rules did to THEIR countries!

          Well, no need ot be an ass about it. 🙄

          I can several cases of abuse at the hands of the master race all thru history. It’s like having kids. Sure, we have power over them, but it doesn’t justify abuse.

          Also, obvilously, pride comes before the fall. We can say the power given to the west in much of history has led to a lot of arrogance, along with achievement.

  16. I think Muslims, the ones I met are nice people. Just like I’m sure a lot of white nationalists have met nice black and mayb even Jewish people. I don’t really like bashing the Muslim world. However, looking at the science, it’s going to cause some people to get offended.

    It’s just like telling people in my family. Well, we have a lot of deafness, and our family lived in the mountains isolated, so maybe there was a connection. 🙄

    1. You can always expect to get hated for this rhetoric, mocked, ridiculed etc.. Cause nobody likes to hear that their imbred. I mean. Come on. 🙄 They’re going to call you an asshole, a douchebag etc…

      1. Arabs are defensive and angry because people are offending them, much as mountain people don’t like being called hillbilles, hicks, inbred etc.. Expect they will kick your ass or heavily mock you. 😆

        1. Yes, the best way to prove you’re not the violent savage people say you are is to be violent and savage…over everything from stills drawn by French&Danish cartoonists to a YouTube video!

          However, why are Christians and/or whites not kicking some ass/killing when we’re insulted by avatars of cultures FAR worse than our own?

          Could we truly be too civilized for our own good?
          (No, this is not a Rocky III reference)

        2. No, we shouldn’t call someone the n word, cause some black guy calls us “white bread”. 🙄 Two wrongs don’t make a right. Ep-gah wants to stoop down to the level of trash. Also, he assume white people were ALWAYS RIGHT, and they were not. Nonetheless. in the case of Muslim invaders practicing 50 percent first cousin marriage, I can’t really sugarcoat the truth.

        3. No, I am not saying stoop to their Level, but call a spade a spade, and fight back against thugs who want to kill you over a cartoon or YouTube video.
          America has, by my count, 6 shows that regularly make fun of Christianity, and 2 where that’s the whole PLOT, not just repeated jokes. We do not behead people over it, so the terrorists should not either.

          You see it as coming down to their Level, I see it as holding them to the same Standard we hold ourselves, and if they don’t meet it, punishment ensues.

          I’m still waiting for those articles where whites excuse terrorists because of the Jews? I always thought we excused Jews because of what the terrorists did. And Robert has an article that seems to point in that direction too!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/10/29/its-all-about-israel/

        1. Quote by EP-GAH

          No, I am not saying stoop to their Level, but call a spade a spade, and fight back against thugs who want to kill you over a cartoon or YouTube video.
          America has, by my count, 6 shows that regularly make fun of Christianity, and 2 where that’s the whole PLOT, not just repeated jokes. We do not behead people over it, so the terrorists should not either.

          You see it as coming down to their Level, I see it as holding them to the same Standard we hold ourselves, and if they don’t meet it, punishment ensues.

          I’m still waiting for those articles where whites excuse terrorists because of the Jews? I always thought we excused Jews because of what the terrorists did. And Robert has an article that seems to point in that direction too!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/10/29/its-all-about-israel/

          The only solution is to keep the Muslims out. Back in medevil Europe, that’s what they did. What else can you do?. Muslims should be first priority before other groups.

          Other groups, like African Americans, Latinos, they might be curable somewhat, and we might be able to tolerate some of them The Latino immigration should be stopped, but how can we possibly send back all Latinos?

          Also, African Americans need to have their poorer neighborhood invaded by the army and set straight, but there are a lot of African Americans not causing crime, nor bothering anyone.

          Of course, above all, the white birthrate needs to double or triple. That would provide adequte justification to say our nation cannot handle more non-white people.

  17. I think some WNs are excusing faults of Arabs due to the Jews (enemy of my enemy is my friend). On the other hand, these same faults, if applied to sub-saharan Christian or pagan Africans would be highly criticized. 🙄

    1. Funny, I thought we were excusing faults of Jews/Israel because of terrorists!
      Can you point me to some WN articles excusing the terrorists?

      1. David Duke praised 9/11 saying the attackers had balls. He constantly praises the palestinians, ignoring the fact they practice mass first cousin marriage, hence the low IQ and instablity, stuff Israel wants to keep out.

        I hate to see Palestinians kept out, kicked out, or even genocided, but that seems to be the conclusion WNs draw for African Americans. Isn’t there some hypocrisy here?

        1. David Duke is all about truth and science, yet he constantly ignores incest in the Arab world. Not a peep about it on his videos or website. Of course, he doesn’t want Arabs in white nations, but he using the same logic as with Latinos.

          Also, again Duke praising the Palestinians, ignoring the fact the USA took land from Amerindians, again ignoring the Palestinian self destructive incest.

        2. Duke mentality

          ”we go ignore all faults of ”the enemy” of my enemy and accuse d’Isleal to be racists against palestinians, because few non-wn whites will follow myself just with the white advocacy”

          Whites need other reasons to defend themselves than defend themselves.

        3. Ooh! Is Bill Maher a White Nationalist too, then? He got FIRED for praising the 9/11 terrorists’ “bravery”!
          (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNMhNJDRnhU)
          He got a second show — a second chance if you will? — BUT ever since then, he’s been the ONLY Liberal who actually speaks out AGAINST the terrorists.

          Well, if you’re against Americans taking land from the Indian savages, why do you justify Jordan dumping their excess on Israel and calling them “Palestinians”? You have the right comparison, just the roles backwards.
          However, I can’t find the part where Palestinians offered to PAY for the land they were occupying. Can you show me a receipt or something?

          Whites in America bought land from savages who SUPPOSEDLY didn’t believe in land ownership, then they tried to take it back by force and lost–repeatedly. They had no equivalent of Einstein to tell them that trying the same actions and expecting different results is insanity.

          Maybe a closer comparison would be to Mexico dumping their deadweight on America, and makes us out to be “racists” anytime we try to send them back?

          Palestinians were Jordanians, but they tried to kill the King. Without the King, the Kingdom of Jordan would just be the DUMB of Jordan, so they kicked out the troublemakers. When MOSLEMS call another group “troublemakers”, we need to listen up, as they have a higher threshold for “troublemakers”, right?
          (Or it COULD be interpreted as pot calling kettle Black? 6 of 1)

  18. Quote by Ep-gah

    Hmm, in MY history, it was because Rome let in too many barbarians for cheap labor, who promptly revolted when they were told to obey the law or leave. Sounds like America’s current problem with our misbehaving “cheap” labor invaders, doesn’t it?

    The military had been cut drastically to pay for Bread&Circuses, so they couldn’t fight such a massive invasion that they had opened the doors for. Not only has America’s military budget been cut, the pensions and other benefits for ex-military were cut to give money to illegals!
    I guess in hopes they don’t revolt and overthrow the country?

    But don’t worry, in my history, the women were raped by barbarians then by Moors. So yes, they had sex with nonwhites, but it was less than voluntary. Remember the scene in True Romance where the thug taunts a Mafia don that his Grandma got raped by a nigger? How’d that turn out for it?

    If Donald Trump is elected and he tries to throw the Latinos out, it might be the end of the USA as we know it. As with the Roman barbarians, they will raise hell, and won’t go quietly, if they go at all. 🙄

    Remember the scene in True Romance where the thug taunts a Mafia don that his Grandma got raped by a nigger? How’d that turn out for it?

    I take offense to that, as many in my family have frizzy hair. 🙄 Maybe the mafia don was just a racist jerk, just like so many people in the USA are. Also, I think the black/white pairings now are not rape by a long shot. The two people love each other, but I do admit the black guy wants a “trophy wife” 🙄

    1. Well, I can laugh off the mafia movie. 😆 But isn’t the racism of Italians ridiculous, considering so many of them have black hair?

    2. I’m fine with a (third) war with Mexico to finally settle who owns what once and for all. They sold us land, tried to take it back by force and lost.
      Whether or not you believe in the myth about Houston cornering Santa Anna and making it sign a treaty which would’ve ended the war 1 year early and the border 100 miles NORTH of its current site.

      Either way, Santa Anna fought until its death and we WON, establishing the border and paying Mexico $28 MILLION. (That was a lot of money back then, not a two year down-payment on a basketball-playing rapist!)
      If Mexico decided unilaterally that treaty no longer applies, then we’re at war, they just haven’t told US so we can’t fight back yet!

      In 1912, a Mexican troublemaker (Redundancy?) called Pancho Villa bought ammo from a criminal dealer in New Mexico. The ammo turned out to be a dud, so it and its pitiful band attacked Santa Fe. America hit back with ground troops AND airstrikes. This is called the Punitive Expedition.
      (Seriously? He expected someone willing to sell ammo to an enemy to be trustworthy?)
      BUT Mexicans refused to help us find the terrorist, although they disavowed it was one of theirs. So basically, we put down their rebellion for them. Sounds like an awful familiar pattern, like say, when we kill terrorists in some Third World hell, and they fight us, although they’re grateful to be rid of the terrorist?

      Eisenhower was able to find and weed out Mexico’s troublemakers via the US Military. Wilson was able to KEEP them and their Spanish Flu out with machine-gun nests.

      If America “as we know it” means a Mexican infested Hell, I’m sure a lot of Americans will be happy about that. They’re here illegally, and we’re already at a one-sided war standing due to THEIR violation of the treaty.
      Their invasion is essentially trying to do by breeding and violence disguised as random crime what they couldn’t do by organized invasion.
      It’s not a coincidence that the Mexican Embassy sticks its nose into EVERY Mexican criminal we catch, or that they have TWICE as many Embassies in America as any other country, or that they provide Official Mexican Fake ID, in the Matricula Consular, don’t you think?

      As they steal, rape, and murder their way through America, they’re making a lot of Americans upset–even LEGAL Hispanics whose families get murdered by repeat-deportees!
      So the only thing keeping them alive are our ridiculous “Hate Crime” laws.
      Official declaration of war instead of just trying to BREED us out of our country would obviate such protection. They would find out EXACTLY how many Americans are armed enough to fight back. In the Roman era, normal citizens were UNARMED, which is why pro-illegal politicians keep pushing to disarm Americans and give/sell more weapons to our enemies!

      As to the trophy wife bit, Blacks ARE more known for wife-abuse or even murder, from OJ on down. BUT if women are our equals, they’re making their own choices and suffering their own consequences.
      Not all blacks are bad, and when a good black marries a white girl, it’s wonderful. I am the Godfather of one such offspring, and my own sister married a half-black, half-Japanese man. At the wedding, I gently told him if he hurts her, I WILL destroy him cell-by-cell. He was a little discomfited by that, after initially laughing it off.

  19. quote by Ep-gah

    oh! Is Bill Maher a White Nationalist too, then? He got FIRED for praising the 9/11 terrorists’ “bravery”!
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNMhNJDRnhU)
    He got a second show — a second chance if you will? — BUT ever since then, he’s been the ONLY Liberal who actually speaks out AGAINST the terrorists.

    Maher is trying to blame Islam for the Muslim’s problem. However, he is misled. It’s only Islam’s fault in that promotes first cousin marriage. Iv’e never seen him say anything about that. The incest has led to massive poverty and other problems. Since the Muslims can’t build a civilization like Japan or Europe, they start fighting western powers who take advantage of their weakness.

    I wouldn’t say the same is true in other areas though.

    1. Islam IS the Moslem’s problem. If they focused on building themselves up as much as they do on tearing down the Civilized World, they might have a good country.

      And who takes advantage of WHOSE weakness again? I don’t remember any Civilized World refugees in the terrorists’ countries. In fact, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, etc. said they couldn’t take in their fellow terrorists as “refugees”…BUT that didn’t stop Saudis from buying record numbers of houses in Beverly Hills. Gotta hate those unexpected housing bills.

      And what “other areas”, exactly? Iran stole oilfields from America and Britain in the 1940s (That whole “Once you sell it, IT’S MINE” thing that nonwhites have such a hard time understanding again!), Iraq BURNT DOWN their oilfields in an attempt to make sure NOONE could have it–then gave CHINA the oil they promised US if we got rid of Saddam!
      Always ask for the payment up front, right?

      If you mean violence as one of the “other areas”, then look in the Quran, it tells Moslems to “struggle” against the Civilized World until we are all dead, converted, or made to pay Jizya in submission.
      Translation: Your money, your life, or be a Moslem–and even then, you’re not safe, as Moslems kill each other for not being Moslem enough, or whatever?

      1. EPGAH Your town does not look as nice or have as many skyscrapers as Dubai or Kuwait or Oman. Trust me their cars are nicer, their building taller, their roads cleaner, their crime rates lower, hookers and addicts hide in their apartments or hotels etc. etc.

        Don’t delude yourself into thinking your city with its two-story brick buildings built in 1910 and old pickup trucks and trailers is as nice as what the average Arab has in oil-rich countries (And the money is now made so when oil runs out it does not matter at all).

    2. As to Maher, do you think he REALLY learned his Lesson from his previous praising the terrorists, or he’s just SAYING anti-terrorist things in a “Please Don’t Fire My Ass” move, a la firing cops anytime they discipline a BLACK thug in hopes of NOT having their city burnt down?

  20. If you look around the world to where war and anamosity abounds your assumption holds up, it would seem to me. Also, American cities that are run down and have a high crime rate have a predominent number of people of color. Reston, Virginia is a planned small community that was designed to have a mix of racial groups living together with the grand hope of the developers that the different racial groups would all prosper. What has happened is quite different. Alongside very affluent neighborhoods are ghettos with a high crime rate and schools that are failing!
    I believe it was Ethiopia where many years ago America poured a huge amount of money into rebuilding a city with modern buildings, streets, street lights, etc. Ten years later Sixty Minutes went back and documented what had happened. Grass was growing in the streets, stop lights were hanging down and not working and the buildings were run down. If we want to help the worlds people live better lives we need to recognize the important roll of IQ and not just throw money and foods at them assuming they will know how to use these things in a way that benefits themselves and their society.

    1. KATHLEEN

      Even Non-Asian minority celebrities get hooked on crack and kill themselves smoking and end up broke like Houston.

      Dubai and other countries in the Arab world are pretty nice.

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