Elegy for the Latin American Left

I had an Argentine girlfriend once. She knew I was a leftwinger. She used to tease me about it a lot. It’s sort of “normal.” Normal in the sense that when you meet a White American, they tell you they are a conservative Republican. It’s a normal, everyday thing, you hear it all the time. On the other hand, in the US, when you tell people you are a Leftist, that is a pretty freaky thing to say. A lot of people’s eyes bug out of their heads.

In Latin America, it’s not necessarily bad to be a leftwinger. There have always been plenty of leftwingers. Sure, it’s often been a pretty dangerous ideology to hold, but it’s not uncommon at all for intellectuals, people with advanced degrees, writers, artists, etc. It often shocks people a bit because they think it is way too ballsy, and you are a bit of a dangerous character in that you might have alliances with some armed group, but it’s not considered unusual or strange. It’s sort of an everyday thing.

Argentina went through a terrible time from 1978-1983 when the state formed a dictatorship and killed 30,000 Argentines in a counterinsurgency campaign. Sure the Left was armed, and they had been carrying out armed actions for some time, but they were not as Commie as you might think.

Quite a few were Peronists fighting for a socialism, nationalism and Catholicism, which sounds pretty cool by me. Sort of like Argentine Chavistas.

What happened was that the state attacked the guerrillas and their support network. The support network were mostly idealistic young people who were apparently unarmed. Students, teachers, labor organizers, community workers, Catholic lay workers, radical priests, you get the picture.

Security would raid their hangouts, arrest them, and then take them off and murder them. These people were probably not innocent of any crimes, but most were unarmed.

It’s hard to argue that law enforcement should arrest people then take them out and shoot them. Nor should the army detain enemy suspects and then shoot them in the head. It’s illegal to kill POW’s. It’s pretty hard to justify that, but that’s Standard US Counterinsurgency Theory as taught at the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia. In Argentina, they call it The Dirty War.

Oh, and of course you can already guess how the US was involved. The US supported the Argentine junta to the hilt the whole time. You can thank Henry Kissinger for that. He was the main one responsible.

My girlfriend wasn’t a Leftist, but she was sympathetic to the Argentine guerrilla, and in particular she thought the government’s slaughter was outrageous and horrible. She came from a moneyed family that worked in real estate, and she formerly lived in an upscale part of Bogota called Belgrado before coming to the US. She started talking about The Dirty War, and then she became philosophical.

“The Latin American Left dreamed of a better world,” she said in Spanish. “And in Latin America, that is a dangerous thing.”

And with that we leave you with an elegy for the Latin American Left.

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155 thoughts on “Elegy for the Latin American Left”

  1. A lot of South Koreans are very bitter over interference in the government from right wing leaders. That’s why they have a sociopathic hatred of American people. They literally don’t trust Americans, thinking their spies, or in some way trying to cheat them.

    1. But then again South Koreans are incredibly racist and cruel to the handicapped. I’m wondering if their misfortune of being “made a bitch” by America, is karma. 😆

      I don’t think Latin Americans are very kind people either. Does the same analogy work there? How much should we feel sorry for the so called “oppressed” when they don’t feel sorry for anyone below them?

      1. Some of the Latin American/Asian hatred of blacks might have real justification based on an association with crime, even though good blacks are unfarily targeted. But a lot of these countries go a step further, crapping on anyone below them, especially the disabled. In general, there just isn’t any mercy shown in such cultures.

        1. Also no forgiveness shown as in the Korean/Chinese hatred of Japan. WHO will make the first move to forgive. Why is genocidal hatred of Japan socially acceptable in such nations? With such hatred going on, then at least from Buddhist POV (as that’s the religion out there), how cna real healing begin, and an end to oppression (by the USA supposedly) start?

        2. Did you ever think that the No Mercy rules might be WHY Asians are so driven and as a GROUP, so successful, not the “Tiger Parenting” marketing bullshit?

          If you know there won’t be any, “Aww, that’s OK, it’s not your fault” when you fail, you will make sure you do not fail!
          Look at even our movie heroes, slackers who get away with doing as little as possible, as opposed to the hyper-violent, but hyper-competent role-models of the 80s. It induces a feeling of “Why bother trying? It’ll all work out by itself!”

        3. Did you ever think that the No Mercy rules might be WHY Asians are so driven and as a GROUP, so successful, not the “Tiger Parenting” marketing bullshit?

          If you know there won’t be any, “Aww, that’s OK, it’s not your fault” when you fail, you will make sure you do not fail!
          Look at even our movie heroes, slackers who get away with doing as little as possible, as opposed to the hyper-violent, but hyper-competent role-models of the 80s. It induces a feeling of “Why bother trying? It’ll all work out by itself!”

          Sort of, but not really. I guess half and half. Take ESL teachers, they show them no mercy. However, their corrupt system shouldn’t have hired them to begin with. It would be like the NFL hiring high school players, and then bitching when they lose.

          All in all that’s how the whole society works. Tough it out, be a man, even though we set up the crappy situation. Don’t dare whine or will call you a girl. 😆

          I’d say a Korean style USA would work the same. Yeah, a lot of tough talk to make up for the fact they screwed up the organization, but dont dare whine. 😆

        4. Definitely, the Korean macho-ness is bullshit, a coverup for corruption and all in all a failed setup. You know I believe in being a tough guy too, but I don’t want to purposely set up a crappy society, situation, job workplace, school etc.. and then put the blame on the person hired, calling him a wussy cause he doesn’t measure up.

        5. Plus sometimes people, Koreans being one example among many, are so intolerant that won’t even hire a person to begin with, for really stupid superficial reasons. If a person can’t even get their foot in the door, then how can they “be a man” or prove himself etc.. ???

        6. Actually though, I do admire the northeast Asian work ethic. Nonetheless, there is so much corruption and bad setup that, even with such drive and ambition, I don’t think thier society is the best in the world.

          i admit though, Koreans, Chinese etc.. do work hard etc..

        7. Isn’t it true that some things just SUCK, and toughing it out, being a man etc.. isn’t going to make you prevail in that really bad shitty situation. Superman himself couldn’t prevail under bad leadership and/or a crappy organization.

          So again this leads back to the Republican view that society and environment doesn NOT make a difference. It’s all choice and will-power. But is it??

        8. Finally some clown out there will say the teacher sucks HA HA 😆 not the organization. OK fine, that’s good for some laughs, but honestly, looking at the Army or any kind of organization,

          Ultimately, it’s about the overall leadership. In a war, it’s all about leadership, like on Platoon when a battle was between Barnes and the other sergeant, half siding with one and the other half the other, or maybe what we saw on Mutiny on the Bounty

    2. Believe me Ep-gah there are plenty of slackers around where I live. I don’t think they really push themselves, and there always looking for excuses. A little bit of Korean attitude would do them good. But nonetheless, as I said, the setup is important too. I think the setup of an organization is a legit excuse in many instances.

      1. Ah, setup to fail, like:
        ·Hamstrung military
        ·Schools that are disallowed to give Fs
        ·Schools not allowed to punish/boot disruptive children
        ·Schools not even allowed separate by competence Level?
        ·Cops who get fired for doing their jobs?

        Or did you mean some other organization?

        1. Yes, those are setup to fail, but also pompous Asian ESL schools which advertise the best, but recruit anyone with a college degree. So egalitarians and anti-egalitarians both are playing a shady game sometimes.

        2. The free market of non-PC nations do not always produce the best, and the egalitarian society of the USA doesn’t always produce the worst.

        3. Well at least in the math (and maybe science departments), you pretty much can’t brown-nose or slack your way into a good grade. You either know or you don’t, despite some clowns at the school who want to call people peter puffers. 😆 Humanities classes, on the other hand, might have a problem with favortism.

        4. How about an ESL school where the students demand fun, but the management won’t allow you to play games with them ??? In that case, then the students hate you, say you suck, and you lose your job.

          See, the problem lies in the fact, the management sucks, and this keeps the employee from being the best, or even being slighly competent.

          Non-PC asian nations with thier “no mercy” attitude are still failing to produce quality because they can’t manage a school. I don’t know how they with other businesses though. Maybe they’re good at the auto manufacturing business.

        5. If you just want to narrow your focus to SCHOOLS, then yes, America’s egalitarianism is explicitly producing the worst.
          http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-education-spending-tops-global-list-study-shows/
          https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66

          Programs meant to “narrow the gaps” — egalitarianism — have actually twisted schools from trying to TEACH idiots to trying to PLEASE idiots.
          Another poster had put a rather long-winded screed on how when teaching methods in England changed back to the old fact-based ways, boys’ grades shot up.

          Our schools now are worrying too much about FEELINGS — especially the FEELINGS of failing students — and not enough about facts.
          History, science, math, and some others are all under constant assault for having a cultural bias.

          Management DOES suck, but they can’t un-suck without hurting peoples’ FEELINGS…AND worse, our “public servants” are UNIONIZED, which means you can’t boot bad teachers, even molesters, you have to pass the trash. If one school’s negative review stops another school from hiring a teacher, the school that fired it, has to pay its salary for a longer period! What other industry does that, anti-blackballing kinda bullshit?

          The other problem is, firing is based on SENIORITY, rather than incompetence, which REALLY doesn’t work in schools. “You’re our best teacher, but you’ve been here the shortest, so we’re getting rid of you!”

          As to performance metrics, that’s another problem. Teachers can’t MAKE idiots perform like geniuses, all the teacher can do is pass everyone, whether they deserve it or not, and statistically, everyone’s smart.
          That’s why even the most imbecilic now don’t repeat grades, they become the next grade’s problem — literally dragging down the scores of the next class, or worse, forcing THAT teacher to cheat his ass off too!

      2. Ah, setup to fail, like:
        ·Hamstrung military
        ·Schools that are disallowed to give Fs
        ·Schools not allowed to punish/boot disruptive children
        ·Schools not even allowed separate by competence Level?
        ·Cops who get fired for doing their jobs?

        Your mostly referring to public schools, mostly black, but my rural white school had classes (taught by an athletic coach usually) where slacking was tolerated.

        On the other hand, at the university level, your pretty much given grades based on performance, and not blow job perfomance 😆

        I think the big problem lies in the fact that, black kids are not learning a solid foundation before going on to bigger things, That’s why they fail. However, keeping them for 10 years in the 5th grade is emabrassing. Nonetheless, can’t the teachers do a better job at providing a foundation. But again, as you said, they can’t punish the students.

        1. Well, there’s something systemically wrong with MOST Black kids that they can’t — or don’t want to — identify and fix.

          Whites outperform Blacks with scientific regularity on all kinds of tests — and Blacks want to pretend it’s because the TEST is “biased”. Sorry, not buying it, because if the TEST was biased, how do Asians perform as well as or BETTER than whites?

          Until Blacks are willing to face and fix their systemic problems, MOST of them will be just deadweight in a class environment if not bullying the ones that would otherwise excel. Sorry, but parents avoiding Black-majority schools and/or Black-majority schools:
          ·Is not coincidence
          ·Is not racist
          ·Is not due to funding.

        2. Also, letting any kids go on with an unearned passing grade, actually hurts either them, or the next class up.

          And Affirmative Action forcing undeserving kids into college hurts not only the deserving kid (obviously) but also the undeserving who cheated his/her way in, because that one will be overwhelmed with the sudden jump in difficulty and will wash out early, rather than going to say, a Community College, with lower standards but a lower difficulty curve and doing OK, if not Valedictorian!

      3. Quote by Ep-gah

        And Affirmative Action forcing undeserving kids into college hurts not only the deserving kid (obviously) but also the undeserving who cheated his/her way in, because that one will be overwhelmed with the sudden jump in difficulty and will wash out early, rather than going to say, a Community College, with lower standards but a lower difficulty curve and doing OK, if not Valedictorian!

        Yeah right. 🙄 You think the Calculus I’m taking at a community college is easier? I’m sure nothing is easier, only they probably cut back on teacher’s salaries. If community colleges are so low grade, then how come the credit transfers to a large university (at least for most major classes)?

  2. Quote by Robert:

    It’s hard to argue that law enforcement should arrest people then take them out and shoot them. Nor should the army detain enemy suspects and then shoot them in the head. It’s illegal to kill POW’s. It’s pretty hard to justify that, but that’s Standard US Counterinsurgency Theory as taught at the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia. In Argentina, they call it The Dirty War.

    If the US, via a proxy, is willing to do that in Latin America, then why can’t it clean out a ghetto, hence making it safe for the “good” black residents there? 🙄

    it just further proves the US is “in on” the drug war, that the prison industrial compex is a real thing, not some dumb conspiracy theory.

    1. The US isn’t beyond using “lethal law enforment” or stepping up law enforcement “1000 times” what it is now, as I suggested in another post (as a way to deal with ghetto blacks). It isn’t, as long as it’s in some other nation, particulariy a poor third world one.

      1. Yes, but WHY do we not have lethal law enforcement here?
        It’s a PR problem, not a technical problem.

        Officers get FIRED for just tackling a thug, much less killing one.

        Thugs put a bounty on the head of the one who killed one of their own (While pretending to NOT be a monolithic criminal bloc–quite an accomplishment to make anyone believe that!)

        Thugs get “Space to Destroy” and cops are told to stand down, and the idiot egalitarians are scratching their heads why crime and murders soar.

        The Bum commiserates with the THUGS, not the victims. The Bum NEVER CLAIMED the Australian baseball player who got shot in the back could’ve been its son!

        And if the thug is Mexican — an increasing occurrence nowadays — then we’re hamstrung by a “What Will The Neighbors Think?” complex rather than “Too Bad, the stray’s on OUR lawn, WE deal with it OUR WAY!”…
        Like Texas did with Humberto Leal Garcia!

        Thing is, how much more of this shit can/will we tolerate before AMERICA becomes “a particularly poor Third World one”?
        We can’t let in tens of millions of these violent scum, AND let them act in our country the same as they did in theirs without our country BECOMING theirs, dragging us down to Third World Level, rather than magically uplifting themselves by dint of being on the civilized side of the border!
        No matter how much they steal, they’ll still be the same scum they were in their own country.
        Assimilation is based on NUMBERS, not merit of the cultures, so if savages outnumber humans in an area, humans will die or assimilate to the savages instead of vice-versa. (The two are NOT mutually exclusive, which should be extra chilling, if you think about it?)

        1. Thing is, how much more of this shit can/will we tolerate before AMERICA becomes “a particularly poor Third World one”?
          We can’t let in tens of millions of these violent scum,

          The reason a lot of people are violent is cause our punishments are weak. Go to prison? Big deal? It literally means nothing to some hardened gang-banger. However, a real whipping might scare one into civilization.

        2. Probably the reason we don’t “clean out the ghetto” is cause it isn’t profitable. On the other hand, business interests in Latin America number in the billions. That’s why the US won’t risk a Communist takeover anywhere south of the border.

          The American ghetto, on the other hand, must be a ghetto. If not, then there won’t be an ample supply of young black males to fill prisons, which nowadays, are becoming profitable (prison-industrial complex).

          Anyway,you look at it, and you can bring up shady ideas about Jews etc.., but profit dicates what is done, what policies are made.

        3. Good so what do you suggest? How many crimes, or how bad does the crime have to be before we shoot it? There’s a thug that killed a family, was deported several times already, why wasn’t it killed after the say, THIRD deportation, as a justifiable “Too Stupid To Live” Eugenics?

        4. Please don’t get me wrong: I am agreeing with you more than 100% our punishments are weak, but that’s because our AUTHORITIES are afraid to punish the scum, because the scum might punish back, and then its’ the authorities’ fault. Some people even got it twisted enough to say “Police Presence CAUSES Crime” — and they were saying that in “real” life, not online!

          So we need to remove that stigma, that fear that cops doing their jobs will get punished, that smacking/shooting those who need it gets fired or even possible jail time!

        5. Query: What makes you think a beating will mean anything to these animals? Most have to get “Jumped In” — A MANY-ON-ONE BEATING — to join their gang in the first place! Are you hoping to embarrass them into submission or something?

      2. Alternately, how poor/overrun/desperate do we have to get before lethal enforcement becomes a good idea that will be universally lauded, rather than a PR nightmare?
        Even the remade RoboCop shows that civilians are against cops or even military killing thugs nowadays!

        1. Perhaps lethal enforcement isn’t the right thing, but corporal punishent (as in Saudi Arabia would work). At least with corpral punishment, some mercy is shown, in other words, they’re not being killed.

        2. OK, but if you don’t kill them, you leave the door open for recidivism. How much of a beating do you need to give a thug before it changes its behavior? And how LONG do you think that change will last?

          Do you remember Rodney King? Took a 4-cop beating, but the “Can’t We All Just Get Along” attitude lasted less than a month, it attacked ANOTHER COP on a “routine” drug bust!

          How many times does a thug have to attack someone, cop or otherwise, before we say, “Too Dumb To Learn=Too Dumb To Live”? Give it two of Dr. EPGAH’s .50 Caliber Anti-Recidivism Pellets and watch as it never attacks anyone again, GUARANTEED!

          America’s SET an example far too long, it’s time we started MAKING examples again!

        3. quote by Ep-gah

          OK, but if you don’t kill them, you leave the door open for recidivism. How much of a beating do you need to give a thug before it changes its behavior? And how LONG do you think that change will last?

          Do you remember Rodney King? Took a 4-cop beating, but the “Can’t We All Just Get Along” attitude lasted less than a month, it attacked ANOTHER COP on a “routine” drug bust!

          It worked when slavery was around. Why wouldn’t it work now? But then again, we’re not talking about beatings for jay-walking, or carrying a cell phone to school (a 13 year old schoolgirl was whipped in Saudi for that 😆 ) I’m talking about hardcore gang-bangers.

      3. To Jason Y

        Jason Y said:
        The US isn’t beyond using “lethal law enforcement” or stepping up law enforcement “1000 times” what it is now, as I suggested in another post (as a way to deal with ghetto blacks).

        The US already incarcerates more people per capita than any other nation. I am not sure what stepping up law enforcement by 1000 times looks like but I would probably be packing my bags to move to another country if I seriously thought that would come to pass.

        Jason Y said:
        ….then why can’t it clean out a ghetto, hence making it safe for the “good” black residents there?

        For the most part, functional and employed black people do not live in so called ghettos. There has been substantial black flight from inner cities in the past three decades, so currently many blacks are not as badly affected by violent crime as say they were in 70s and 80s (when violent crime was higher and more blacks lived in inner cities). Also almost every black person I know has a relative and/or friend who is or has been caught up in the criminal justice system, so I suspect the vast majority of blacks in the US would be vehemently against lethal enforcement of laws in inner cities. (As would I..)

        Jason Y said:
        If the US, via a proxy, is willing to do that in Latin America..

        Look at the reactions even from many whites (Let alone blacks) over what are most likely legitimate police actions (Micheal Brown) to grey areas (Baltimore). I just don’t see anything like this happening in the US barring a dictatorship and full control of the press and the internet. (The proxy wars in Latin America in the 70s and 80s were mostly waged under military juntas that fully controlled the press..)

    2. The ghetto is armed. The gangs would put up a fight.

      There are probably thirty million firearms in the ghettos. U.S.forces total 2.3 million, counting reservists. They could be augmented by state and local police totaling 600,000. Meanwhile, who mans the ships, who flies the planes and maintains them? Who gives out traffic tickets and deals with crime not in the ghetto?

      1. Give civilians the authority — even if the Government does not provide the WEAPONS to do so — and most of us would gladly clean out our own gang problems.

        As it is now, though, fear of being hauled up on murder charges, or painted as racist serial killers or even put to death for trying our own neighborhood improvement paralyzes us and even some cops!
        http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/14/pistol-whipped-alabama-cop-i-hesitated-because-i-didnt-want-to-be-in-the-media-like-i-am-right-now/

        And look what happened to Zimmerman when he protected himself and his neighborhood from a violent thug?

        What happened to Casebolt for breaking up the pugnacious trespassers?

        Nope! In the real world, crime DOES pay, crime FIGHTING doesn’t pay!

        1. A better idea would be to install Saudi Arabia style corporal punishment for violent crimes. Yes, citizens should be armed, but it won’t solve the whole problem.

        1. Yes, all through history genocides have succeeded.

          Indians? Exterminated completely, no Reservations, no endless whining how they lost the war they started.

          Mexicans? Bad memory, no border to violate, no illegals to call us “racist” for keeping them out of our country. No “reconquista” or other attempts to steal by breeding what they couldn’t by force.

          Moslem Cult? Exterminated, no more terrorism since the 1830s.

          Blacks? Shot as soon as they went from grateful parasites to ungrateful criminals. No cities burnt down, no “Civil Rights” movement and Identity Politics out of control. No war on cops. No Black Panther thugs intimidating old people at voting booths. No thugs that could’ve been the President’s son.

          Seriously, though!
          America has never genocided an enemy, we not only PAY THE LOSER, but HELP THEM REBUILD, then act surprised when they turn on us. In Iraq, we even started rebuilding WHILE THEY WERE STILL FIGHTING US!

          We even bombed our Serbian allies to save the Moslem terrorists!
          That was a true headdesk-worthy moment!
          How grateful have the Moslem terrorists been for that?
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/07/16/authorities-investigating-reports-of-shooting-in-tennessee/
          About that grateful?

          Burma has been killing Moslems that cause trouble, and their street crime has been going down. Correlation doesn’t imply causation, I know, but in this case, I’d be willing to bet there’s a causation there!

        2. Jason,
          You seem to hint that the military should just go in and kill all the black people. The arms they have are not necessarily illegal and they are not all criminals.

        3. Indians? Exterminated completely, no Reservations, no endless whining how they lost the war they started.

          That wasn’t very nice ep-gah. Your hardcore racism is over the top. Anyhow, the whites didn’t exterminate them. Disease dead. But I’m not celebrating it, nor would I celebrate an Amerindian revenge (maybe Bin Laden?) I just don’t care.

        4. Jason,
          You seem to hint that the military should just go in and kill all the black people. The arms they have are not necessarily illegal and they are not all criminals.

          I never said to kill all black people. I mean enforce the law. Really enforce it. That would leave a lot of blacks free on the street, as well as behind bars, maybe getting judicial corporal punishment.

        5. What “hardcore racism”? You talked about our “genocides” and I was playfully pointing out we never killed off any enemy COMPLETELY, just killed off enough of them to stop them from attacking us. (Except, of course, in the Moslem Cult case, but I think that one really WILL need to be a genocide to stop further attacks!)

          Yes, I know disease exterminated them more than whites did, but there were a lot of savages who got their licks in, usually on women and children. Take Geronimo, who butchered the family naive enough to give it sanctuary. Or Custer getting surrounded&pounded. (Though I think he was sacrificed so Americans would have something to avenge. We fight better when fueled by revenge. Take the Alamo, and Pearl Harbor?)
          Or Wounded Knee, when they SURRENDERED AND STILL FIRED AT THE AMERICANS!

          Go ahead and tell me that Indians don’t constantly bitch about losing the war they started…Usually in an attempt to extort political concessions. Some coming dangerously close to sovereignty of an enemy “nation” within America, others ridiculously petty, like the names of sports teams.

          You notice they never bitch when military hardware is named after them, totemically invoking their savagery for our attacks on enemies in the same way as our sports teams do?
          Let’s see, we have Tomahawk cruise missiles, Kiowa Scout Helicopters, Apache airborne missile boats, and Comanche Light Helicopter Experimental. If I left any out, I MEANT to include them!

          Mexicans PRETEND they’re Indian revenge, but forget they’re more Spanish than Indian, and even the Indians had lethal Border Patrol keeping their shit out!
          Particularly…The COMANCHE and APACHE Indians! WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

          It sounds like we both want to send armed forces in to clear out the bad ones, let the good ones breathe freer, but I want to KILL them, and not only prevent recidivism, but take That out of the genepool, and you just want to give them monthly spankings?
          Also, how would you stop the good ones from rallying around the bad ones, as happens when we try to clear the bad out of a population? Or stop them from rioting when we kill or even humiliate these animals?

        6. t sounds like we both want to send armed forces in to clear out the bad ones, let the good ones breathe freer, but I want to KILL them, and not only prevent recidivism, but take That out of the genepool, and you just want to give them monthly spankings?

          I said clean out the ghetto, not genocide black Americans Yes, monthly spankings would also help, as it would change them. Prison doesn’t change them for sure.

          You gotta be out of your mind to suggest killing ALL black people, men women and children. Even Sam, a commenter who has since left the blog, didn’t suggest that.

        7. Tuli-o ( a black American commenter on here), what do YOU thnk of Ep-gah’s view that ALL black Americans, men, women, and children need to be killed?

        8. Wow, you block quoted it, but still didn’t read it!
          Kill the bad ones, not every one. Unless you’re saying EVERY one is a bad one? Which of us becomes the racist then?

    3. Is that the same reason cops won’t go into “no-go zones” in Europe? Some secret cabal between prisons and govt? I don’t see how it proves anything. And what does “in on the drug war” even mean? Is that the idea that the “prison industrial complex” secretly wants more prisoners so they influence laws to have black drug users arrested? Something like that? I’m pretty sure that’s nonsense and that the vast majority of blacks arrested for drug crimes have plea-bargained down from something much worse. I’d prefer that drug users go to jail – so I’m happy about it.

      1. Reagan had a vision of any American being able to walk down any street IN America — unarmed and alone.
        Then he got swindled into letting in a shitload of people GUARANTEED to make our streets unsafe AND giving them automatic citizenship.

        I want America’s police armed and armored enough to clean out the no-go zones.

        I would prefer smaller prisons, shoot non-American criminals. Let them know “Our House, Our Rules”.
        If they don’t like Americans or American laws, they’ll find the border just as permeable in the OPPOSITE direction, so PLEASE let the door hit them on the way out, we have a 7-year backlog of people who would love to take their place so much, they MIGHT actually OBEY THE LAWS! :O

  3. Has anyone seen the movie Slavador by Oliver Stone? it’s pretty good, and provides insight into Latin American death squads.

    1. Who cares? 10,000 years from now we may be saying Chinese are responsible for most accomplishments. 3,000 years ago we’d have been saying it was the Egyptians up until that point.

    2. I think his point was that our near-psycho focus on “equality” smothers the people that could drive greatness and KEEP inventing and advancing society rather than stagnate and let someone else get ahead.

      I always wondered why culture after culture just STOPPED and let others get ahead of them, THIS might be why! Only question is: How did SJW organize in Ancient Egypt or pre-civilization America?

    3. You ARE rightwing on economics, Ben.

      But people should not be dragged down by futile attempts to uplift those who cannot be uplifted, except through drastic eugenic demographic changes (only top 10% of particular demographic reproduces, etc.)

      That’s classic rightwing propaganda right there, though they usually ignore the eugenics stuff.

      Can you please give me an example of how anyone is ever “dragged down” by “futile attempts to uplift those who cannot be uplifted?” Also can you list some examples of futile attempts to uplift those who cannot be uplifted because I cannot think of any?

    4. and realize that the drive for greatness is what drives progress in society, and that the left, in wanting everything to be equal, squashes the potential of superior people – that is my fundamental source of disagreement:

      Ben can you please tell me how the non-Communist Left anywhere in the world advocates when out of power and puts into effect when in power projects that squash the potential of superior people in the name of making everyone equal.

      There are quite a few Left governments in power in the world and there are many non-Communist Left parties out of power. Give me some examples of how any of them promote or implement what you are talking about.

  4. In other words, no matter how much help we give them, African countries stubbornly return to what they were pre-civilization, then bitch about it?

    1. Probably cause it’ s not the right kind of help. The system needs to be fixed first, then aid can be given. If your handing out aid, and then Colonel Hot-Pants steals it to fund his army or Swiss bank account, then something is wrong there.

      1. OK, what is — to you — the RIGHT kind of help?

        And how do you make sure stronger savages don’t steal it, OTHER than by accompanying it with some form of militarized mercenaries — who will have to be paid, detracting greatly from how much you can help the savages?

  5. We should not have wild, massive gaps between rich and poor. Yes there are innate differences in humans that should allow for a certain rich-poor gap, but it should not be as huge and as wild as it is in say Latin America. That’s just insane.

    In Philippines, Chinese are 2% of the population and they control 80% of the wealth. Yes they have an IQ 19 points higher than Filipinos, but so what? Does that mean they should get 40 TIMES the average wealth of the average Filipino? See? They might be entitled to a certain level of increased wealth but not 40X as much,

    1. Chinese come as across as incredibly arrogant people, I suppose due to the higher “know it all” IQ. I can imagine them bossing around all those poor Filipinos, yelling at them for supposedly being stupid.

      1. Why do arrogance and IQ seem to go hand and hand? Kind of like the wise-ass kid on the playground who bosses around 1st graders.

      2. I don’t know, stupidity can be pretty arrogant too, from the savages that kept attacking us and losing, to the Japanese calling our first nuke a “Lucky Hit”, to all the thugs that keep attacking cops and dying from the surprise that the cops fight back!

    2. To Robert:

      In Philippines, Chinese are 2% of the population and they control 80% of the wealth. Yes they have an IQ 19 points higher than Filipinos, but so what? Does that mean they should get 40 TIMES the average wealth of the average Filipino? See? They might be entitled to a certain level of increased wealth but not 40X as much,

      Entitled..? No.. but having traveled to the Philippines several times I can easily see why Chinese Filipinos control so much of the economy. Intellect definitely plays a role but the Chinese Filipinos also tend to be much more driven and business oriented than the native Filipinos.

    1. You gotta admit though, no offense Robert, once racism is allowed on the site, then inevitably egalitarianism is going to be bashed, seeing as anti-racists favor economic equality.

      1. I can’t go around banning everything. I ban way too much stuff as it is. I want to allow most views, but there are some things that I will not tolerate. Of course most racists are extreme inegalitarians and of course they promote the most extreme types of inequality.

        Have you noticed that the racists don’t stick around here too long? This site is not real friendly to racists, and sooner or later, they tend to figure that out and they leave.

        Yep those are crazy rules on this blog. Real hard racism is actually allowed though I don’t like it, but then you can’t attack egalitarianism and you can’t promote inequality.

        All those rules are pretty much designed to drive the racists and sexists away because they are going to be extremely frustrated by the site.

        I allow hard racism because although I dislike it as it is just ugly, I really don’t give a damn about it. It’s not my fight. It’s between the racists and the races that they hate. Let those two sides fight it out. Keep me out of it. I have enough problems as it is. Racism isn’t against me. It’s not against my people. So it doesn’t hit very close to home with me.

        1. But how can you be racist and egalatarian? It seems to be contradicting oneself. Do you really think hardcore racists want to say blacks are subhuman apes, and yet also want to give them welfare (in fact even small crumbs of welfare)?

          1. Also, Identity Politics is usually wrapped in feigned “Anti-racism” — which is actually the MOST racist, because it is Government-enforced racism, just in the opposite direction.
            (Or “Anti-sexism”, which becomes the MOST sexist, just in the opposite direction!)
            But Identity Politics ALWAYS identifies some “oppressor” class and makes THAT group pay — literally and figuratively — for the failure of the Victim class!

            They don’t want equality, they want to stay victims, so the Government will continue punishing the successful for them. AND the politicians like that so they can be the Walter Mitty-style Heroes of their own dreams.
            To outsiders, it looks like Munchausen By Proxy, but one agreed upon by the “Victims”…to the point where you can’t tell who’s the Munchausen and who’s the proxy anymore!

            Eventually those who can afford it, leave this sick game, so they can stop being enablers of these losers.

            Always remember: Identity Politics Players DON’T WANT EQUALITY, THEY WANT TO DOMINATE! Will to Power through feigned Victimhood!
            https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/identity-politics-groups-dont-want-equality-they-want-domination/
            Robert made an article about it this week.

            Hilariously, there was a post where some MGTOW group was making their own discrimination lawsuits, and getting the Government to force MEN back into jobs. Sometimes apparently, it can twist right around back to the way it should be, but I wouldn’t count on THAT happening often!

          2. True, I’d LOVE for Israel and Gated Communities who push “diversity” on the rest of us to experience the same “Cultural Enrichment” we have to try to survive.

            The unemployable, uneducated, unskilled, undisciplined, unruly, unmarried, and uninterested in the rule of law hordes are going to be as valuable as diamonds to these egalitarian idiots…Or borders might suddenly become ironclad when it’s THEIR kids being raped and murdered by the Hordes?

          3. Alternately, if Israel gets to close its borders and put up Mighty Concrete Barriers against scum that have only been trying to kill them for 60 years, we should be able to do the same against scum that have been fucking with us for 160 years, right?

          4. But how can you be racist and egalatarian? It seems to be contradicting oneself. Do you really think hardcore racists want to say blacks are subhuman apes, and yet also want to give them welfare (in fact even small crumbs of welfare)?

            LOL! Why do you think they don’t stick around here very long! This site binds the racists into the worst sort of mindtrap that they’ve ever been in. Their head starts spinning around after a while trying to figure out how to post their racist crap while at the same time not promoting anti-egalitarianism as a societal goal. It makes them completely crazy and after a while, most just leave.

            Frankly, it’s my way of keeping the racists away from the site. I don’t ban racism (because why should I?) but I don’t like it when they post, and I’d just as soon have minimal racism on the site. So this is my little way of sort of de facto forcing them to self-ban by making this a very inhospitable place for them.

          5. Funny, I said much the same about laws and self-sorting/self-Eugenics last week.

            1.) If you act human, get treated like a human.
            2.) If you act like an animal, get put in a cage.
            3.) If you act like a RABID animal, get put down.

            There is nothing racist, no pigment is ever mentioned, but it makes the “anti-racists” completely crazy, because which group usually acts like rabid animals and gets put down? (Hint: Which group sets whole cities aflame when #3 actually happens?)

            I would LOVE the Government to allow savages just enough rope, but sadly, it seems to constantly shorten the leashes of honest citizens and lengthen them for the scum.

            Like a kid who brought in a phony bomb and now gets to meet the President, instead of getting to meet a cellmate named Big Bubba?

      2. If Economic Equality is all that matters, why does pay to play on Identity Politics in the US? After all, generally speaking, Blacks who were brought over to the US to be slaves ended up better than Africans back home. So, from a purely economic viewpoint, Blacks in America should be thanking white folks. I mean who cares about identity, history, culture, and heritage?

        Also, if we use the Economic Equality logic, American Indians have no reason to gripe since the arrival of white man greatly improved their lives. They no longer need to freeze their butts and hunt in winter. They can just go to a shopping mall and get all the food they want. They can even make money by running casinos and take money from palefaces.
        So, Indians have no reason to gripe since white conquest of America led to a economic boon to their communities.

        If economics is all that matters, why we do we hear gripes about how the native cultures/identities and African cultures/identities were disrupted, suppressed, destroyed, and etc? I mean who cares about such ‘atavistic’ stuff? Economics should be the only thing that matters…right?

        But oddly this same “Economic Equality” bullshit sees nothing tragic about native European peoples being displaced by waves and waves of non-Europeans, the way it’s “horrible” that civilization kicked savages aside centuries earlier? If anything, there’s a kind of gloating about the drowning of civilization under the savage tide! Like some cartoon character standing in front of a tsunami and saying “We deserve it”…But we DON’T!

        It is wrong to say identity/culture doesn’t matter(at least in white nations) and it is also wrong about this “boon” thing. Yeah, masses of savages will be a “boon” in the way that massive immigration has been a boon for California which has both the extremes of the very rich and masses of the very poor.
        Mexican immigrants to the US boost GDP, while dragging down GDP per capita. They benefit business owners and upper-middle-class people who want cheap nannies, while hurting people at the bottom end of the economic scale. They hurt the average taxpayer, too; socialize the costs, privatize the profits.

        The intellectually dishonest, when confronted with unimpeachable facts, prefer to ignore them than admit being wrong. However, shutting a liberal up is a quasi-victory. It’s human nature not to admit being wrong, and to instead withdraw (or double down, in the case of extremists).

        America cannot afford any more doubling down on savages, we need to start betting on our own people!

      3. It occurred to me during the Ebola outbreak that the Bum refused to block immigrants from the affected regions because it didn’t want to plant the idea that it’s possible to block immigrants from anywhere.
        If we can block diseased parasites from Africa…we could block them from Mexico…and then work on the ones already inside!

        Can’t have that!

      4. Who knows? Perhaps someday the Whites in North America and Western Europe might be part of a new mass migration to somewhere else to escape the continual social strife and civil wars in their new “multicultural” societies.

        BUT what culture would make a place that is both safe, AND allows outsiders, the way whites make for the savages?

      5. Please realize though that inequality is created by leftist politicians attempting to force equality on everyone else – somebody has to force the equality on others, and there is a power differential already established there when one group does the forcing – “some are more equal than others” – etc.

        Please show me anywhere on Earth that non-Communist leftwing politicians try to force equality on everyone.

        You are also enforcing inequality by censoring some of my comments here – there are then unequal opportunities for discourse.

        I don’t think you understand. This is a socialist blog. I honestly don’t want you reactionaries posting here at all. But I don’t want to ban on too many things, so I do let reactionaries post. However, I limit what they can post about.

        For a long time, the comments section was overrun by conservatives and reactionaries. And this is a socialist blog! Why should a socialist blog have nothing but reactionaries in its comments section?! I got sick and tired of chasing down responses to their affirmations which I had not heard of before that made the Left look bad. Turned out when I chased down their allegations, 100% of them were lies, so most conservative charges outside culture are just lies.

        You guys actually are lucky I even let you post here at all. I only let you guys post here at all because I am trying to ban a minimal number of people and I want to have a more or less free speech zone here.

        The question then is not if we should delude ourselves into thinking that equality even exists aside from an abstract concept used to mobilize people (just like pacifism merely makes people prey for non-pacifists), but what type of unequal social arrangement is most optimal.

        Well of course there will always be inequalities of outcome. Even Cuba has 8 different pay scales. That’s a given. But we Leftists want relative equality in outcome terms and a lot more equality in non-outcome areas.

      6. Wait, why are you after equality of OUTCOME? Equality of opportunity is one thing, but equality of OUTCOME is a bad thing. It’s the part that squishes people who would otherwise be the Shining Force of their nations.

        Take what’s happened to our education system now that Federal funds get yanked if they boot bullies and/or if they give kids F grades. You can’t flunk, so noone really TRIES!

        Or Corporations like GM that do really stupid things and make really horrible labor deals, KNOWING they’ll get bailed out. They have an unfair competitive advantage if they have access to the “unlimited” taxpayer funds, while all their competitors have is what they can earn from CUSTOMERS!

    2. It just basically says that as soon as the Civilized World gives up power, the savages go back to being savage, our improvements and reforms don’t “stick”.

  6. Brilliant article on this new generation of Indian “yuppies” although a bit hold is increasingly relevant in today’s India.

    http://culture-centered.blogspot.in/2010/12/more-on-indian-yuppies-fiscally.html

    I was really surprised the other day when I heard one of these self-described Indian yuppie friends describe her political views as “fiscally conservative, socially liberal.” Now at least this is a step forward from the typical Indian opportunism that you see among middle class children of trade liberalization (serving one of these global banks, hedge funds, or knowledge production houses), who usually describe themselves as “apolitical.” But, what really is this “fiscally conservative, social liberal” label and what purposes does it serve?

    So let’s begin with the classification “fiscally conservative.” In simple words, a fiscally conservative worldview is one that favors privatization, trade liberalization, minimization of subsidies for the poor, and removal of social securities.

    Its proponents ranging from Ayn Rand to Milton Friedman, fiscal conservatism is rooted in the worldview that offering social securities to the poor makes them lazy, and instead, the emphasis should be on supporting private industry, which in turn, can generate enough employment to move the economy forward and to trickle down the benefits to the poor.

    So coming back to these simple Indian yuppies, with an IIT and IIM education, a cushy job in a hedge fund and a superficial introduction into political-economic theory through pop culture readings of Ayn Rand, being fiscally conservative works out as an advantage to justify economic opportunism, narcissistic accumulation of wealth, and the expenditure of this wealth in the form of the LV, the Burberry, and the Merck (which of course she rightly deserves).

    Essential to this fiscal conservatism then, is a worldview that “I am better than those who are poor, and hence I have earned the wealth.” The poor emerge in the mindscape of the yuppie as a lazy and uncultured homogene, lacking in agency and the willpower to do anything. Even more, the poor are responsible for the fate they have to face.

    I remember, after the financial crisis hit the roof, one of these yuppies telling me that the crisis had all to do with people who didn’t deserve to buy homes ending up buying homes (what amazed me at that point was the fact that he conveniently forgot to mention his bonuses and salary raises, i.e. the stolen money, that got us here).

    As I read the concept of fiscal conservatism envisioned by Indian yuppies, it really boils down to a worldview that is intrinsically personal, a worldview that justifies the personal accumulation of wealth, accompanied by a deeply-felt derision for the poor (what is amazing to me is that some of these yuppies themselves grew up lower middle class and now blame the lower and poorer classes for all the major problems).

    Now what is this socially liberal thing all about? Once again, to understand the social liberalism of the yuppies, we have to take a look into the personal lifestyles they live and the social choices that accompany these lifestyles.

    So for the yuppies, social liberalism is about alcohol consumption at unhealthy levels, watching an occasional arty movie at an indy art house (so one could appear intellectual), clubbing in Manhattan pubs (the Indian yuppie has arrived!), and mimicking many of the aspects of Western culture that appear to be “cool” or “in.” Being socially liberal for the yuppie is about appearing to be intellectually engaged.

    Like their Idol Bill Gates, being socially liberal is also about supporting the next micro-credit program in say some village of Bihar. Being socially liberal is about working on the “thick” Indian accent so that one can do away with it and sound “American” (at the same time, making fun of others about their “thick” Indian accents). Social liberalism then is once again a brand identity that communicates finesse, sophistication and marketability in the “free market.”

    When you combine the two different identifiers, we now have a label that is pretty attractive in the story it tells. The combination “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” then is ultimately about a specific brand identity that is fairly vacuous in its ethical foundation, and simultaneously packages the “intellectually engaged yuppie” for the global free market. It is ultimately about justifying the economic narcissism of an entire class of Indians whose very packaging is based on the erasure and denigration of the poor.

    1. Hinduism totally relieves any guilt these yuppies have, as according to the religion, everyone is reaping thier karma.

  7. I seriously doubt if the big time “white nationalist” posters on here are socialists in any form. Probably, they would say they’re socialists to stay on the blog, but in reality would be lying. Just be honest, no offense to any of those people on here. Iv’e not seen one pro-socialist comment by any of them.

    1. LOL I do have a friend who writes me every day who is basically a White nationalist socialist. You don’t see them very often, but there is a whole section of socialist White nationalists over at Stormfront, so it is definitely a part of their movement. The Stormfront crowd would best be called National Socialists. Many to most European White nationalists are socialists of some type or another. The “White nationalist Libertarian” type is pretty much an American thing.

      I’ve mostly only seen it at Stormfront though. Haven’t seen it any other places.

      1. Are you talking about those who believe in the actual definition of fascism, not this horror-movie caricature connotation that became denotation?

      2. Speaking of Stormfront, I found this funny quote on VNNForum which is like the uncensored version of Stormfront since they freely use “nigger”, “Wetback”, “dothead”, “raghead”, “shitskin” and every form of racial abuse and vilification. Attracts the lowest common denominator of internet posters (maybe half of them also post in Roosh forums :). Almost like a parody of white nationalism.
        http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1375090#post1375090

        Book tells Muslim men how to beat and control their wives
        The poster called Bassanio writes:

        “It all depends on the women. b><The harpiest of them need to be beaten every day in order for them to behave. (LOL) Others once a week. Others still once a month or just once a year.

        The best and most sensible of women don’t need to be beaten at all, for the mere possibility of being beaten is enough to make them behave.

        “I’d say that today’s liberal, self-centered femicunts need a good beating and vaginal creampie administered daily for at least a year. That should cure them of all and any I’m-an-independent-liberated-powerful-vivacious-snowflake-who-deserves-everything-and-offers-nothing delusions.

        With that said, today’s white males AKA beta faggot queers could also use a good beating administered daily for at least a year. I could be responsible for beating James Blunt.”

        LMFAO 🙂

        Bassanio used to be a really funny commentator. He has often had me in splits with his black humor and gift for satire. He seems to be based in Europe, Poland to be specific but you never know with the Internets.
        For some reason, Bassanio hasn’t posted anything since March 27th, 2012. Very rarely do you come across someone with so much natural with, I truly miss him.

        Here’s one more:

        http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1374095#post1374095

        “What a stupid fucking blonde sow. May she get Nicole Simpsoned.

        And is that a blonde child in the bottom left corner?”

        http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1366984#post1366984

        “Serbia was the last country in Europe to submit to the kikes and their shitskin minions.

        Do you know what that means? That Serbians have balls.

        The same can’t be said for Swedes. Buncha fuckin’ castrated queers who willingly handed over their country to jews, females and sand niggers. Scandinavia’s always been at the forefront of liberal madness.

        How’s Malmo looking these days?”

        1. At least they’re being honest on VNN forum. These people on Stormfront are just pretending to be “polite” In reality, they are some of the most inbred redneck illiterate garbage imaginable.

        2. In private conversation, these WNs always refer to non-whites with degrading names and slurs. I bet at least 90 to 99 percent do. So that’s how they really feel about them.

          I know so, cause on one forum one guy thought I was an WN, so he sent a private message, but the message was full of racial slurs. It wasn’t the same language he used while posting on the forum.

      3. An Irish guy I knew in South Korea seemed pretty racist. I think he pretended to be all liberal and open-minded, but he made incredibly smart-ass comments about non-whites, Jews which strongly suggest otherwise, or maybe it’s just an alpha male thing.

        However, note he was left wing, but still incredibly racist, anti-American, and ant-semitic. Well, he was more anti-semitic probably than racist, or just a soccer hooligan type. 😆

  8. The right wing propoganda is saying welfare is bullshit and a waste, and that bringing up so called “sub-human” populations is a waste. Is it? Whenever money is wisely spend on education, it seems to bring people up, and then these people get jobs (and pay taxes so society gets the money back). But of course, you need a good environment for education, so that’s why the ghetto needs to be cleaned out, corporal punishment needs to be used on gang-bangers etc..

    1. Of course, if right wingers are saying education is a waste even for white people (Yes, they are opposed to any government spending), then they’re really off thier rocker.

  9. The big mistake ep-gah and ben are making is claiming non-whites cannot be “uplifed” They can, but it isn’t possible now because the environment is too bad. However, If the environment was cleaned up using force, then things would change. Cleaning up would include “cleaning up the ghetto”, “Installing judicial corporal punishment” among other things.

    1. Assimilation isn’t about culture or environment, it’s about NUMBER. If the stupid and violent OUTNUMBER the smart and law-abiding, then that’s the “environment” people will assimilate to.

      When you hint at cleaning out a ghetto using force, aren’t you admitting some are unsalvageable?

      But like I keep saying, the “environment” IS THEIR OWN CREATION! They make it bad or violent, THEY attack the ones who dare try to learn and better themselves, whites don’t.

      1. I never said we needed more immigration from other countries, especially from Latin America. Yes, it is about numbers, but for some groups, like blacks (which aren’t growing), we might be able to do something about it. But we can’t keep letting in more Latinos.

        1. Maybe Blacks aren’t growing, maybe whites are shrinking? Either way, there are plenty of examples of what happens when whites become minorities in our own countries, and it’s essentially a Holocaust noone writes about because Noble Savages are doing it rather than Evil Nazis.

          At least you agree we can’t keep letting in more Latinos.

        2. quote from ep-gah,

          Maybe Blacks aren’t growing, maybe whites are shrinking? Either way, there are plenty of examples of what happens when whites become minorities in our own countries, and it’s essentially a Holocaust noone writes about because Noble Savages are doing it rather than Evil Nazis.

          At least you agree we can’t keep letting in more Latinos.

          The problem with blacks is pussy law enforcement along with single parent homes. As for Latnos, as I said, we really don’t need them, as they have nations to live in. Black Americans, on the other hand, really aren’t native to Africa, and creating a black nation in the USA is a joke.

    2. You asked a few posts ago, why pick on Blacks especially. I want to flip that question: Why pick on white societies?

      Everyone’s dream worldwide is to live in a country built by and governed by northwest-European whites. You can curl your lip all you like when you say “white supremacy,” but the truth is, white supremacy’s awfully popular with the wretched of the earth.

      The wretched of the earth—Muslims, blacks, American Indians, Pacific Islanders—have settled into dependency—or, if you don’t mind really plain speaking: parasitism.

      They’ve tried independence and self-support, and it didn’t work out. So, live off the white man’s benevolence. If you don’t have the good fortune to live in a white country, just break into one.

      That’s been happening in the U.S. since the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act. It’s what’s happening in Europe now.

      1. That’s been happening in the U.S. since the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act. It’s what’s happening in Europe now.

        That act wasn’t a disaster until free trade destroyed Latin America, hence fueling massive immigration from “one particular part of the world”. I mean if a few Chinese want to come over and build a restaurant, who cares? I like the food.

        1. Sorry mistake in html code:

          That’s been happening in the U.S. since the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act. It’s what’s happening in Europe now.

          That act wasn’t a disaster until free trade destroyed Latin America, hence fueling massive immigration from “one particular part of the world”. I mean if a few Chinese want to come over and build a restaurant, who cares? I like the food.

        2. That WAS a disaster, it shutdown immigration from Europe and EDUCATED parts of China to let in the Third World ones.
          I’d much rather have educated fellow Europeans, with not only my language, but similar ideas on what’s right and wrong, rather than Mexicans who have demonstrably worse morality (Or maybe just none?) and little or no education. I thought it was bad when Mexicans didn’t learn ENGLISH after bordering us for over a century and a half…Some haven’t even learned SPANISH! That’s a special kind of stupid, isn’t it?

          But the Act cut us off from reinforcements of OUR people, forcing us to take people who are totally alien, culturally and morally.

          Free Trade was DEMANDED by Latin America, so I don’t see what they’re bitching about. It’s a big “Be Careful What You Wish For”.

          But why are Latin Americans coming here, when they can get our jobs handed to them on a platter, without “risking their lives” invading, either dying in the desert or getting raped by their coyotes.
          Who would’ve thought that someone willing to commit crime FOR you would commit a crime ON you?
          So every way you slice it, it’s self-inflicted wounds.

          And again, Americans have no similar Exit Strategy. We cannot invade Canada when they fuck up ALL America, like they already have California. What about us? What about America’s OWN people?

          I’m still waiting to see how you can twist it to Blame The Victim in Europe?
          They don’t have any Free Trade Agreements with countries in Africa that whites built and savages overthrew, by ballot, bullet, or blade!
          So what’s your excuse for them dumping THEIR mega-breeding overpopulation on their betters’ countries?

          And why accept immigration AT ALL? If you believe in Global Warming, less population — especially less in the Civilized World — would be a GOOD thing for the planet, its resources, etc., right? Our citizens will actually become richer on a per capita basis. In fact, populations should be decreasing now that society is entering the technological age where machines and automation can do most of the work and less people are needed, not more!
          And I reiterate, the numerically dominant culture will turn America into that kind of country. Pick one nonwhite country you really think is worth emulating, let’s let that country overrun and swallow America, and see what happens? Or keep America American, and keep control in our own hands rather than in invaders’ hands.

      2. They’ve tried independence and self-support, and it didn’t work out. So, live off the white man’s benevolence. If you don’t have the good fortune to live in a white country, just break into one.

        I got no problem with grateful parasites. I’d like to be one myself. 😆 However. as you said in another comment, some have went toward crime.

        Yeah, (as far as grateful parasites are concerned) I don’t really believe in a society where everybody “holds their own weight totally”. We all depend on one another. the whole “White Man’s Burden thing”, assuming they remain “grateful parasites, was a good thing.

        If anyone has a problem with someone being a grateful parasite, then “Fuck you”. Really, it’s nothing of a big concern, except to far right Republicans.

        1. What these far right Republicans want is for everyone to own a business, or invest in stocks. If you don’t do those things, then your a loser. You can’t be a janitor, McDonalds worker, or any other humble profession.

        2. Please note I mentioned a shift from “grateful parasite” to “ungrateful criminals”. Since the latter state is obviously bad if it triggered a fictional genocide in reprisal, the former must be good, or at least tolerably benign, like a mole that is annoying but not cancerous.

          But we abolished slavery, so only the MEGA-rich can have hangers-on — grateful parasites to the point of sycophant — and the rest of us try to rid ourselves of parasites.

        3. Please note I mentioned a shift from “grateful parasite” to “ungrateful criminals”. Since the latter state is obviously bad if it triggered a fictional genocide in reprisal, the former must be good, or at least tolerably benign, like a mole that is annoying but not cancerous.

          But we abolished slavery, so only the MEGA-rich can have hangers-on — grateful parasites to the point of sycophant — and the rest of us try to rid ourselves of parasites.

          Are you trying to say only the ultra-rich wanted slavery, and can also tolerate blacks after the Civil War? No, a huge section of the white population did fight for slavery.

          Also the society, in general, benefited from slavery, maybe not in the north, but definitely in the south. It’s called trickle down wealth. The wealth of the planters eventually reached everyone in some form, as slavery boosted the economy.

        4. quote from Ep-gah

          But we abolished slavery, so only the MEGA-rich can have hangers-on — grateful parasites to the point of sycophant — and the rest of us try to rid ourselves of parasites.

          Black people making a humble living as sharecroppers, janitors whatnot, are NOT bad people. Yes, grateful parasites, but what your trying to say is that all people should conform to the “Neitzche Superman” or be a god. Otherwise, they are garbage and should be eliminated. Only the people who run businesses, invest in stocks, etc.. are respected.

          See. that’s what Nazis believe in. They literally want to be gods. How ridiculous. Gosh. 😆

          Also, finally, back in the days after the Civil War, a lot of people, including middle class whites, and even the poor, didn’t want to do Negro Work, just as now they don’t want to do Mexican work. They wanted blacks around. In fact, some farmers were angry when so man left for the north in protest to lynchings, other degradation etc..

        5. Please note I mentioned a shift from “grateful parasite” to “ungrateful criminals”. Since the latter state is obviously bad if it triggered a fictional genocide in reprisal, the former must be good, or at least tolerably benign, like a mole that is annoying but not cancerous.

          But we abolished slavery, so only the MEGA-rich can have hangers-on — grateful parasites to the point of sycophant — and the rest of us try to rid ourselves of parasites.

          How do you know that many people besides the ultra-rich didn’t enjoy having black janitors, nannies, food service workers, plumbers etc.. ??

          As with nowadays, a lot of white youth wanted high paying jobs. They didn’t mind leaving “dirty work” to blacks. Unfortunately though, they still treated them with a lot of disrespect, nonetheless.

        6. The keyword is grateful parasite. Ep-gah believes humble people who work for a living, especially as servants, are parasites. How could mean anything else, considering black after the Civil War, before the hip-hop era, tended to work in humble “servant” positions?

    3. Who knows? Perhaps someday the Whites in North America and Western Europe might be part of a new mass migration to somewhere else to escape the continual social strife and civil wars in their new “multicultural” societies.
      But where could that be?

  10. quote by ep-gah

    Blacks? Shot as soon as they went from grateful parasites to ungrateful criminals. No cities burnt down, no “Civil Rights” movement and Identity Politics out of control. No war on cops. No Black Panther thugs intimidating old people at voting booths. No thugs that could’ve been the President’s son.

    What’s wrong with being a grateful parasite? 😆 I’d be one in a heartbeat if given the chance. Imagine if some rich dude wanted a butler or something. Yeah, I’d sign up.

    You know maybe they went from grateful parasites to angry hoodlums, cause so many jobs were exported out of the US. The situation is more complex, than just saying, “They quit trying to work, going toward welfare or crime.”

    Unfortunately now though it’s too late. So judicial corporal punishment probably has to be used to correct the evil, of which much was caused by the greedy elite class.

    1. Why did you have to post this twice?
      NOTHING is wrong with being grateful parasites. But they didn’t stay that way.

      As to “White Man’s Burden” yes, but they CHOSE to be an ever bigger burden, CHOSE to breed more at their hosts’ expense, then CHOSE to rob, rape, and murder their hosts and their hosts’ children.
      Now THAT is ungrateful, and rude doesn’t even BEGIN to describe it.
      Isn’t there some kinda etiquette when someone else is paying your bills you have a responsibility to keep your burden on them SMALL?
      I don’t mind if they never say or even THINK of “Thank You”, just keep their footprint on my earnings as small as possible. But they not only don’t THANK workers, they have CONTEMPT for workers, “Work Is For Suckas” — obviously not realizing that their betters’ toil is the only thing that supports their arrogance?

      If they can’t carry their weight, stop them from breeding more deadweight!
      Especially if you believe in Anthropogenic Global Warming?
      Fewer people=LESS pollution.
      And if we’re going to have pollution let’s have it from those who produce something better than just more of themselves?

      Slavery provided all their needs, AND kept them out of trouble–by holding the Owner responsible–BUT!
      “Slavery R Wrong” according to…ONLY the Civilized World. That is to say, European countries. We’re emotionally beaten and extorted constantly over slavery we USED to practice, and probably will be forever. But not ONE of these anti-racist idiots opens its mouth against Chinese, Moslems…or even African savages who still HAVE slavery! Why is that? Probably because whites are easy Marks?

      Yes, our jobs WERE exported. BUT whites didn’t turn to crime as much or as deeply. Like I said, in our DE-Industrial Revolution (OK, I suck at naming these things), Philadelphia lost most their smelting industry, BUT where were the riots that made everyone worthwhile flee Detroit?

      Why isn’t every poor white town burning yearly?

      What is it about whites that allows us to control ourselves, and Blacks turn into what even YOU called “subhuman monkeys” that need to be spanked? (Horrible pun intended!)
      And of course, if a thug acts like a RABID animal, attacking a cop, rather than submitting for punishment, put it down!

      1. As to “White Man’s Burden” yes, but they CHOSE to be an ever bigger burden, CHOSE to breed more at their hosts’ expense, then CHOSE to rob, rape, and murder their hosts and their hosts’ children.
        Now THAT is ungrateful, and rude doesn’t even BEGIN to describe it.
        Isn’t there some kinda etiquette when someone else is paying your bills you have a responsibility to keep your burden on them SMALL?
        I don’t mind if they never say or even THINK of “Thank You”, just keep their footprint on my earnings as small as possible. But they not only don’t THANK workers, they have CONTEMPT for workers, “Work Is For Suckas” — obviously not realizing that their betters’ toil is the only thing that supports their arrogance?

        You have good and bad blacks. The blacks who went bad are punks. What else do you expect from single parent raised children?

        1. As to “White Man’s Burden” yes, but they CHOSE to be an ever bigger burden, CHOSE to breed more at their hosts’ expense, then CHOSE to rob, rape, and murder their hosts and their hosts’ children.
          Now THAT is ungrateful, and rude doesn’t even BEGIN to describe it.
          Isn’t there some kinda etiquette when someone else is paying your bills you have a responsibility to keep your burden on them SMALL?
          I don’t mind if they never say or even THINK of “Thank You”, just keep their footprint on my earnings as small as possible. But they not only don’t THANK workers, they have CONTEMPT for workers, “Work Is For Suckas” — obviously not realizing that their betters’ toil is the only thing that supports their arrogance?

          Again, a product of single parent homes, combined with “government aid programs” which don’t focus on education, and don’t reward people for trying to gradually get off the programs. Also, the ultimate leftist dream is for jobs, not welfare. Where are the jobs? Were they shipped to China?

        2. Did whites force them to breed out of wedlock?
          Did whites force them to have more kids than they can afford, either in money or parental time?
          How did we force them to anything, after slavery was abolished?

        3. PS, there are some Welfare programs that tie their reward to the kids ATTENDING school, not necessarily good grades, but…baby steps, right?

      2. No, our nation cannot tolerate crime,and we can’t continue with a welfare model which rewards people for “not” trying to be independent of the government. That’s not saying government aid is bad, but only that we should be paying for education, not to reward someone for having a child. But that’s not saying blacks shouldn’t have kids as everyone else, but that they should pay for them.

      3. quote by ep-gah

        What is it about whites that allows us to control ourselves, and Blacks turn into what even YOU called “subhuman monkeys” that need to be spanked? (Horrible pun intended!)

        Maybe single parent homes? I know an instance of white and Latino kids who, in the absence of one parent, turn into total assholes.

        Also, yes, we have to spank them, because otherwise, we have to shoot them. In that case, there would be no mercy at all. We can’t really shoot all of them, because, you know, young people fuck up.

        1. Blacks turn into what even YOU called “subhuman monkeys” that need to be spanked? (Horrible pun intended!)

          Monkey spank. 😆 I get it.

    2. BTW, I know this is another topic, but related: The bigwigs of Baltimore have decided to let in a shitload of Syrians!

      Living in a blown out row house in East Baltimore is a step up from a blown up mud hut in the Near East. That and Syrians are unlikely to start street gangs based on the stylings of the hip-hop community. In a generation or two some will strap dynamite to their chest and run into the local Synagogue, but that’s a long time from now and whatever.

      What you’re seeing here is a total disregard for the locals, who are a dumpster fire on their best days. Adding another burden to a city that can barely maintain civic order is criminal. Of course, the reason people like Ruben Chandrasekar think it is great is they live in the county and they get to feel like saints by helping foreigners come to America, without it costing them a dime!

      1. Blacks are enough. We don’t need boatloads of other “troubled” non-white groups. The Arab world should be off-limits for immigration, simply due to terrorism alone. However, blacks on the other hand, were something made in the USA. We allowed and supported slavery. Now we have black “hanger-ons” so to speak. All we can do is clean out (and prevent future occurances of) the bad blacks, and focus on improvement for the good ones.

        1. We took it over from what the savages used to do to whites, and even Irish criminals treated as slaves. Then we suddenly abolished it.
          Isn’t it interesting how a norm can become forbidden, and forbidden can become norm, or even forced onto people?

          The only way whites could be blamed for “making” them in the USA is the selective breeding programs some slave-owners engaged in. Once slavery ended, their breeding was completely uncontrolled. There are a few articles on this very blog that say women prefer thugs. Once whites had no control over their breeding, we also relinquished any blame for their preference of irresponsible thugs.

          THEY made more of themselves here. About the only way whites can still have ANY of the blame is that America stopped neutering criminals early on, and even stopped neutering insane people!

          Before we continue, I need to know what definition you’re using for “hanger-on”. Earlier today, you used a strange definition of parasite, meaning “Lower Echelon Worker”, not “Entity That Usurps Without Working”. Are you using a similar meaning for “hanger-on”?

        2. Before we continue, I need to know what definition you’re using for “hanger-on”. Earlier today, you used a strange definition of parasite, meaning “Lower Echelon Worker”, not “Entity That Usurps Without Working”. Are you using a similar meaning for “hanger-on”?

          A large number of them only became like that only AFTER the 50s.

  11. Isn’t it funny WNs deny the holocuast, yet the rhetoric of some suggests strongly that a genocide is a good thing. 😆

    1. Well, two things with that:
      1.) People misuse “genocide”. A genocide means a purposeful extermination of a race or culture. NOT just a one-sided war. Hell, what’s happening to whites could be far more accurately called a genocide.
      We’re being encouraged NOT to breed, whether by the monetary cost, or eco-guilt., and called the whole gamut if we dare feel any pride in any European ancestry and their accomplishments.
      Sometimes we’re even denied taking credit for our ancestors’ good things, like inventions, but still blamed for the bad things, like slavery…Even the ones whose ancestors were the retroactive chumps that set them free!

      2.) The only way you can stop an enemy from attacking you is not by TALKING them out of it, but by BEATING them out of it. Since there’s not a rolled-up newspaper the size of Connecticut to rap the enemy du jour on the nose with, that means killing enough of them to make them stop.
      The ENEMY, not us, determines what that number will be.
      The “Indians” kept attacking us, making peace, then attacking us again.
      Until what?
      The Mexicans sold us land, then tried to take it back by force…Until what?
      The Japanese attacked us, China, and Philippines. We clawed them off the Philippines and little islands like Iwo Jima, but they still wanted to declare WWII a DRAW, rather than admit they LOST a war they started!
      Until what?
      How many truces has the Civilized World drawn up with the Moslem Cult?
      Has that stopped them from repeated attacks on the Civilized World, plus invasion of “refugees” leading to ultimatums like this:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cdHg9TADZyA
      “Europe has become old and decrepit and needs human reinforcement….they are not motivated by compassion for the Levant, its people and its refugees, … Soon, we will trample them underfoot, Allah willing.”
      “Throughout Europe, all the hearts are enthused with hatred toward Muslims. They wish that we were dead, but they have lost their fertility, so they look for fertility in our midst.” …
      “We will give them fertility! We will breed children with them, because we shall conquer their countries!” … “Whether you like it or not,” Americans, Italians, Germans and the French will be forced to take the “refugees”.
      “We shall soon collect them in the name of the coming Caliphate. We will say to you: these are our sons. Send them, or we will send our armies to you.”
      They’re going to trample Europe underfoot…until/unless what?

  12. So called evil parasites only become that way once they become criminal (blacks), or they strongly threaten jobs (Latinos). Anyhow, once crime is removed to where the USA is like some college campus, then I’m all for helping non-whites as much as possible, assuming there is a decent amount of them, not like hordes of Lations coming in.

    1. YES! We call them evil when they THREATEN US!
      At what point does it stop being racism and become mere survival?
      What organism would willingly let an enemy kill it? Much less HELP them?

      Yes, if crime was cut down to a dull roar, we’d be a lot more willing to believe “They Are Just Like Us” and even help them.
      But when they DEMAND more and more freebies offering nothing POSITIVE* in return, we get defensive and our attitude becomes something on the line of “Fuck That, and Fuck You!”

      *I don’t consider crime, No-Go-Zones, and even whole cities torched to be POSITIVE contributions!

      1. There might be a difference between blacks wanting welfare while living in mostly white areas (or black rural areas with more traditonal conservative values), and ones living in a ghetto wanting it. The ones in the white areas aren’t going to torch anything, cause they can’t.

        Note blacks in a ghetto might torch the place, simply cause the area sucks. It would be like an area made of cardboard boxes, worthless, so what if it goes up in flames?

    2. Recently there was a MOSLEM kid who brought a “suitcase” into school with clock parts. They reacted as if it was a bomb.

      Do you think this is “Islamophobia”? After 1400 years of blowing their betters’ shit up, they are suspected of being bomb-makers.
      Worse, the NEXT time a Moslem brings a “suitcase” into a place, they’ll ignore it on PURPOSE, trying to be PC, and it WILL be a bomb! But that’s speculation, right?

      This is what I mean by groups getting a reputation from other members’ actions!

      1. Moslems outdo African Americans anyday. That’s why we can’t tolerate them at all, compared to African Americans. (Note African Americans are limiting thier torching to shit-hole urban areas with no value anyway.)

        1. OK, then why not wall off the areas they’ve already burnt and declare that an African American Reservation?

          Detroit USED to be valuable, Black criminality MADE it worthless.
          Baltimore, if it was so worthless, CVS would not have put a store there. LEGAL pharmaceuticals are expensive!
          Ferguson…We can debate on that one.

  13. I had a kidney stone a few times. It hurts. It changes you. That’s what you call “an ass whipping” .:lol: Maybe they could make some gang-bangers feel that, instead of a whip? I’m sure scientists could make an artificial one.

    1. Now THAT is an idea! I’ve had over 30 kidneystones, and the doctors STILL don’t know what causes it!

      So yes, an artificial kidneystone would be an AMAZING way to gentle a thug down!

        1. It’s basically equivelent to some zapping machine where a person is forced into compliance like a slave. Pretty creepy stuff. Kind of like being hit with lightning from the emperor on Star Wars – Return of the Jedi

  14. Always remember: Identity Politics Players DON’T WANT EQUALITY, THEY WANT TO DOMINATE! Will to Power through feigned Victimhood!
    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/identity-politics-groups-dont-want-equality-they-want-domination/
    Robert made an article about it this week.

    Iv’e not seen that kind of attitude except on a college campus, and maybe with disabled people who want a lifestyle of doing nothing, “as opposed to even getting a college or technical education which the government would pay for”.

  15. You are not allowed to promote conservatism over liberalism on this site. You are not allowed to promote the Republican Party over the Democratic Party on this site. This is Republican Party propaganda. You are not allowed to link to any of PragerU’s Republican Party propaganda videos.

  16. To Rob:

    40 TIMES more driven? 40 TIMES more business-oriented? I don’t believe it.

    If a group has 40 times the wealth of another group it doesn’t necessarily follow that they are 40 times more driven. Consider the analogy of automobile racing, you have two racing teams whose drivers have fairly comparable skills but if your car is 20% faster than your opponents.. you will win races much more often than 1.2x over your opponent.

    As a comparison median net wealth for white Americans is 13 times higher than blacks and 10 times higher than Hispanics:
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/12/racial-wealth-gaps-great-recession/

    Of course some people will bring up the notion of unearned privilege and past history but Asian Indian in the US have surpassed white per capita wealth in less than two generations. Also the wealth gap between whites and blacks is worse now, with 7 years under a black president than it was 30 years ago.

    FWIW I would speculate the difference in wealth per capita between Jewish Americans and black and Latino Americans is quite probably North of 40x.

    1. Well, I am a socialist, and since they didn’t try 40X harder than the other group, there is no way on Earth that they deserve to have 40X as much wealth. So I am going to take a lot of their wealth away from them via taxation and redistribute it to the rest of the people who got screwed because this one group monopolized so much wealth. I am definitely a redistributionist.

      1. To Robert

        So I am going to take a lot of their wealth away from them via taxation and redistribute it to the rest of the people who got screwed because this one group monopolized so much wealth. I am definitely a redistributionist.

        If Roberto de California Lundes were elected President on such a platform… I suspect he would have to be very quiet about it until he had fully consolidate power… otherwise

        1) If by some chance you were to win a free and fair election (without every aspect of your life examined…)

        2) You would be offered substantial brides (including incredibly hot women..) to make a nominal progressive taxation policy to primary affect your bribers political and business opponents.

        If they couldn’t do that

        3) Manufactured scandal and entry to office

        4) Assassination (Although even this is out of style at least for someone as high as the office of the president, most likely if an assassination were to occur it would happen before a person with such a platform ran for president….lower level politicians are murdered all the time)

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_killings_in_the_Philippines_(2001%E2%80%9310)

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrajudicial_killings_and_forced_disappearances_in_the_Philippines

        5) In anticipation of such an event.. a substantial amount of wealth would be moved out of the country.

        That said there is a wide recognition among lower and middle class Filipinos that they are being used and abused.. (and the Catholic does nothing to help except putting up billboards about how awful birth control is…) and there are increasing social campaigns to weed out corruption. But overall the best option for non rich Filipinos is to leave the Philippines.

  17. To Rob:

    40 TIMES more driven? 40 TIMES more business-oriented? I don’t believe it.

    Another way to look at the differences is to consider compounded interest.

    I am not sure of the median length of time for ethnic Chinese in the Philippines but I suspect large numbers came over after the Mao took over China (Note there have been Chinese immigrants to the Philippines since before the Spanish, and the Filipino national hero Jose Rizal, executed by the Spanish in 1896, was part Chinese). So If we set 1950 as a starting date and begin with a dollar, compounding interest at 7.15% over 54 years to the current date yields a dollar amount of $40.61. My point is that compounded over time relatively small out-performance from a cohesive minority can yield substantial gains over time.

    Do the Chinese in Philippines cheat, steal, etc,,? Sure, but so do plenty of native Filipinos.

  18. To Jason Y:

    Yes, those are setup to fail, but also pompous Asian ESL schools which advertise the best, but recruit anyone with a college degree. So egalitarians and anti-egalitarians both are playing a shady game sometimes.

    How long did you teach in Korea..? I am looking into teaching ESL overseas (out of necessity because I am slowly being pushed out of the IT industry because of my age, 54). That said given the widespread prejudice against older workers I might have as many if not more problems seeking employment in Asia than in the US.

  19. Latin America is a very diverse territory, it is comprised of 20 countries, very different among each other. All of Latin Americans countries are multi-ethnic.
    There are several myths about Latin America:
    1. Latin America is tropical. Only some parts of Latin America are tropical.
    There is a great variety of weather and climate, ranging from tropical climate like northern Brazil, to freezing cold temperatures, like Southern Chile and Argentina. There are jungles like the Amazonas, and deserts like the Atacama desert in northern Chile. Geography is also very diverse. You can find the highest peak in the Americas like the Aconcagua, and low lands like the Argentineans pampas.
    2. Only single European men emigrated to Latin America.
    Although the first wave of emigration from Europe consisted of single men; beginning in the late 15th century families started to emigrated to Latin America.
    3. Only Europeans from Spain and Portugal emigrated to Latin America. In some South Americans countries there are more Italians surnames than Spanish or Portuguese, like in Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. Argentina has population of Welsh and Irish ancestry. There are people of German, French, Polish, Russian, Ukranian, Lituanian, Latvia, Greek, Armenian, people from Ex Yugoslavia, Dutch, ancestry all over South America and in some parts of Central America and Mexico. There are also great numbers of people of Italian ancestry in Panama, Colombia, Peru, Nicaragua, and others.
    4. Germans emigrated to South America, after the second WW, most of them were Nazi fugitives. That is wrong! There were several waves of German emigration, starting in the late 16th century, most of Lutheran and Catholic faith, but most Germans that emigrated after Second WW were of Jewish faith.
    5. Most Latin Americans are mixed race people. Mixing between Europeans and Indigenous people, or by Europeans and people of African ancestry, were extensive in same areas where the three races were present. However, in other areas people of European descend are the largest single group. Native groups lived in the high mountains or in the Jungle; and plantations with Africans slaves were found near the coast in the tropical areas; so the plains (pampas, sabanas) in the interior were inhabited and very fertile, so there is were Europeans settled.
    6. There is no Asian people in Latin America. There are great numbers of Chinese, Japanese, and Korean people living in Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Mexico, Argentina, etc. Brazil has the largest ethic Japanese population outside Japan.
    7. Most Latinos are leftist. There is a great variety of political parties, just like in Europe.

  20. Programs meant to “narrow the gaps” — egalitarianism — have actually twisted schools from trying to TEACH idiots to trying to PLEASE idiots.
    Another poster had put a rather long-winded screed on how when teaching methods in England changed back to the old fact-based ways, boys’ grades shot up.

    A lot of it has to do with the culture. In Communist Cuba, they focused on education, but by teaching idiots rather than pleasing idiots. In Cuba, if you started acting all punk etc.,they’d probably throw you in prison. But note Cuba is a largely non-white land.

    The inability to reach non-white kids is mostly due to one parent homes, the culture which is highly anti-intellectual etc..

    1. You’re actually ADMITTING nonwhites have a higher occurrence of one-parent homes (Usually the MOTHER, perhaps?) and anti-intellectual culture?
      One cause of Global Warming the AGW crowd never mentions is Hell freezing over repeatedly!

      1. True, but a conservative regime never tries to help non-whites. Even if conservatives do try to help, it’s usually with some tough love strategy which never works.

        1. Also WNs and the like say IQ (of the poor) needs to be increased, not government aid, yet right wing Latin Ameircan dictatorships, India etc.. won’t lift a finger to try improve the IQ of the poor, saying the poor have to improve themselves. Usually by making some lame suggestion that they should stop drinking etc..

  21. Management DOES suck, but they can’t un-suck without hurting peoples’ FEELINGS…AND worse, our “public servants” are UNIONIZED, which means you can’t boot bad teachers, even molesters, you have to pass the trash. If one school’s negative review stops another school from hiring a teacher, the school that fired it, has to pay its salary for a longer period! What other industry does that, anti-blackballing kinda bullshit?

    It’s horrible in non-PC lands too. As I said, the industry, in it’s desperation to find workers, hires anyone with a college degree. However, the Koreans are expecting the best. Also many don’t like certain ethnic groups, but some do. However, cause of the punk ones who don’t like certain ethnic groups, the learning environment is ruined. The Koreans are constantly angry over politics and protesting, and it spills over into the classroom.

    I think Robert also mentioned India as an un-PC nightmere. What excuses can ep-gah make for India?

  22. I doubt if the crappy education system in the US has to do with socialism, but rather “hurt feelings” as ep-gah suggests. I see nothing wrong with teacher unions, I don’t think they’re causing the problem. The problem lies with the fact teachers can’t punish students, they can’t set high standards etc.. In that case, that makes the teacher, a bad teacher, but that bad teacher cannot be fired.

    However, a big problem also lies with the parents, as it also does in other lands like Korea (regarding ESL). They have a bullshit view of themselves, seeing themselves as perfect and right (The customer is always right.) and this attitude retards the development of kids. If Joe Redneck’s or Black Momma’s son is throwing pencils in school, then daddy will encourage the behavior, or refuse to believe it really exists. The teacher obviously, due to the parent’s power, cannot punish the little shit.

    1. And what would be the mocking response, which would get some laughs, from the parents?

      The teacher is lazy 😆 He’s a wannabe. Oh, he’s retarded or handicapped. He’s a shit teacher. etc… The teacher is a child molester. He belongs to some national or ethnic group which sucks, so that’s why he’s so bad. He’s a homosexual.

      1. Again the teacher cannot whine about his stuation without beling labeled a pussy. Even in this PC land, the teacher cannot show real feelings, as it’s seen as an excuse. The system isn’t to blame. The teacher is just a s pussy ass motherfucker. 😆 The customer is always right. But the customer could have racial grudges, an un-realistic view of his or her “little angel (or devil)” 😆 Who knows?

  23. I think most teachers are competent though. Some freak-o examples exist in Korea with the ESL industry, but it isn’t the norm, and it isn’t what you see in the US. Most of the teachers I had knew the subject they were teaching, they didn’t get ethnic crap from students cause they belonged to the same ethnic group etc..

    Nonetheless, with some classes in rural areas, and pretty much all of the inner-city classrooms, the situation has become way too negative, as stuff like standards for excellence and punishment are not being used.

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