Identity Politics Groups Don’t Want Equality, They Want Domination

None of these Identity Politics groups want equality. First they want equality, and then they get it, but they still need a reason to exist, so they just keep upping their demands. The whole equality thing is a ruse. None of these groups want equality. They all want to persecute the enemy Identity faction and Lord it over them.

Feminists want to persecute the men and dominate us.

Blacks want to persecute the Whites and dominate us.

Latinos want to persecute Whites and dominate us.

MRA’s want to persecute women and dominate them.

We should have never fallen for this crap in the first place. We were stupid. To think that any group in a capitalist society full of individuals and groups in ruthless competition with each other for resources would ever be for mere equality with their enemies is a sick joke. It’s like saying armies fight wars so they can reach a truce. Nope. They fight wars so they can defeat the other side and dominate them.

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  1. We should have never fallen for this crap in the first place. We were stupid. To think that any group in a capitalist society full of individuals and groups in ruthless competition with each other for resources would ever be for mere equality with their enemies is a sick joke. It’s like saying armies fight wars so they can reach a truce. Nope. They fight wars so they can defeat the other side and dominate them.

    Well said.

    In a cutthroat society such as the US – which is only getting more cutthroat on account of the shitty economy – the idea that people should voluntarily relinquish power and privilege is patently absurd.

    When resources are scarce, people will fight tooth-and-nail to keep what they actually have. At that point, to demand that they make sacrifices and sabotage their own self-interest becomes little more than a blatant power grab.

    It amazes me that more people cannot see this. I even remember someone once refer to it as the “kiss up, kick down” strategy. Kiss up when you’re relatively powerless, but kick down once you successfully cozen your enemy and acquire power.

    1. That’s what we do whenever we let in “refugees” and give them freedom to practice the same shit culture that made their own country shit.
      When it makes their lives shit HERE, though, they claim whites only do better due to some magic “White Privilege”–and demand we give that up and enact programs to raise them to our Level! Or as ACTUALLY happens, lower us down to the savages’ Level!

  2. White idenity is also a domination group, and they did dominate during much of US history. The domination reaction from other groups is simply fallout from such damage. In other words, we will dominate you, so you won’t be able to rise up and dominate us again.

    Nonetheless, I feel the pain many feel. Nonetheless, so much of this is “reaping what is sown”. Ultimately, nobody likes payback. Nobody wants to be picked on, or be the victim, whatever the race, gender, or orientation including white.

    1. Take Asians, in response to American intervention, a lot of them have a legit reason to hate Americans (bombing, unwanted intervention in their affairs, Hiroshima etc..). Also, blacks have a legit reason to hate whites, as whites have treated them like sub-human monkeys for so long.

      However, though it may sound wormy or weak, if your there, your thinking “I wish these people would lay off, and quit picking on me. Please”. 😆

    2. The aggressors always resort to the “commie” argument. Ask Korean, north or south, what they think of Japan.

      Later on the Vietnam War, according to conservatives, it wasn’t about Vietnamese freedom but Bolshevism. They had to be “freed” from bolshevism. Again this idea fell on deaf ears in Vietnam, especially since the south wouldn’t do land reform.

    3. Also, we can take note of Albert Schewitzer’s eventual conclusions as years of experience taught even him that one must look upon Blacks not as equals but as children — “and with children,” he said, “nothing can be done without the use of authority… The combination of friendliness with authority is therefore the great secret of successful intercourse with the Negro.” (On the Edge of the Primeval Forest, London, 1924, pp. 130-1): https://archive.org/stream/ontheedgeofthepr007259mbp#page/n163/mode/2up

      But in the absence of that paternalistic hand, we have degeneracy with Blacks.

      How do you know that doesn’t apply to people,in general? A lot of people are lazy. As movies like Whiplash</.i> show, they literally don’t want to work hard unless yelled at.

      Notice that “being all you can be” as in the army or marines, doesn’t come with soft suggestions, but yelling and force. I know so many goobers out there, who just really don’t try hard, not cause they can’t, but due to laziness.

    4. Definitely, people in general are lazy, not just blacks. My friend was talking to me on the phone saying he couldn’t master basic concepts on the guitar (related to basic note reading). I knew darn well though, he was just “too lazy” to push himself thru the material on his own.

      Why do you think math is in such high demand? It isn’t just cause people hate it. People are just unwilling to work.

    5. Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery – this according to the News site examiner.com, in an article “Federal Statistics of black on white violence, with links and mathematical extrapolation formulas”, which has since been archived:

      Your ignoring the negative environment.

    6. Narratives show that whites were historically kinder to black slaves than is generally admitted, see:

      http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/slavery/southern_slavery_as_it_was.htm

      Probably because treating people like on a BDSM film isn’t the most profitable way to deal with slaves, and that people being human, have an aversion to being that cruel to anyone, assuming the master isn’t mentally ill.

      I remember on the movie 12 Years a Slave they were giving the slaves 100 lashes. Obviously, that movie is propoganda, cause I don’t think masters gave 100 lashes at random. Who could take 100 lashes? Most people couldn’t handle 20.

    7. Sorry mistake in blockquote tags:

      Narratives show that whites were historically kinder to black slaves than is generally admitted, see:

      http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/slavery/southern_slavery_as_it_was.htm

      we can disregard the Christian rhetoric of that text, and still note that it is a collection of source literature on Slave narratives showing much better treatment of Black Slaves by whites than Blacks themselves treated their Black slaves. This viewpoint, that good care of slaves was, in general, considered important by Slaveholders, is also supported in Roll, Jordan, Roll: The World the Slaves Made by Eugene D. Genovese, reviewed by John W. Blassingame, Journal of Social History Vol. 9, No. 3 (Spring, 1976), pp. 403-409:

      Of course, most people (of any race) are more productive under slavery than without, as evidenced by the fact military people work harder than civilians. Compare the productivity of some average Joe laying around his mom’s basement, and someone at Marine Corps boot camp.

    8. From Jason Y, *myself”

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      blockquote>How do you know that doesn’t apply to people,in general? A lot of people are lazy. As movies like Whiplash show, they literally don’t want to work hard unless yelled at.

      Notice that “being all you can be” as in the army or marines, doesn’t come with soft suggestions, but yelling and force. I know so many goobers out there, who just really don’t try hard, not cause they can’t, but due to laziness.

      A lot of people, in fact, most people, heavily benefit form a disciplined life, whether, slavery, religious or military service etc…

    9. It depends on the area. Actually, among the “white conscience” (sarcasm) people in East Tennessee, there is hostility to anyone with black, Latino or Asian friends, but what’s the big deal? So you get callled a “***” lover, 😆 and what not.

      I think the problem lies in the fact that in a majority area, a place where one group is homogeneous, a lot of pressure exists to show distance from “weaker races”, or races who aren’t the majority but live in the area.

      Note, that in my area, the blacks are very friendlly to everyone, but it’s because blacks are not the majority. They don’t have the majority to be “arrogant and mean” around here. Now the rebel flag raising jackasses, 😆 on the other hand, do.

      A bad side effect of a homogenous population is that a substantial number will be very arrogant, enforcing the social order etc.. On the other hand though, everyone being mostly the same, leads to less ethnic conflict.

    10. Maybe the reason blacks and others are parasitic and lazy, as white nationalists say they are, is because they have nothing to do. What is there to do? Lay around the projects and eat potato chips all day? 😆 Now Robert says people “work under the table”, but really it seems to me that the life lead in the ghetto is an pointless, lazy life with no real meaning. Anyone care to disagree?

    11. Jason you’ve obviously never been in the military people in the military aren’t that much different than the civilian world as concerns work ethic or most things for that matter.
      Waiting tables, strip club bouncing and shipping the UPS orders for a tool warehouse were all much harder more labor intensive jobs than being in the peacetime military.

    12. Of course laying around the projects eating potato chips becomes quite boring, so maybe somebody sells drugs to break the boredom. Anyhow, people sitting around with no direction have a fast pass to the devil.

      That’s not saying though, that massive abuse didn’t exist under slavery or Jim Crow, or that those systems were good. It’s only saying that a disciplined life benefits most, but it doesn’t have to be slavery or Jim Crow.

      What actually needs to be done is the US military needs to clean out the ghetto, and the massive aid given to the ghetto should be tied with some kind of military lifestyle to keep people in line. Maybe that’s the extreme solution needed.

    13. In the Old Testament, the Israelites were sold into slavery (to foreigners) after their culture had become so degenerate (as defined by a bibical definition) that they were beyond hope.

      The only thing which kept Israelite society from become degenerate was hard work, discipline, faith etc.. Now, looking at blacks we can say that “a life of degeneracy under freedom” is worse than a life of disciplined and “clean living” slavery.

    14. Jason you’ve obviously never been in the military people in the military aren’t that much different than the civilian world as concerns work ethic or most things for that matter.
      Waiting tables, strip club bouncing and shipping the UPS orders for a tool warehouse were all much harder more labor intensive jobs than being in the peacetime military.

      Perhaps in some cases. I think the point being is that those in ghetto, as well as many others also, lead pointless lives with no direction.

      Yes, I know some people waiting tables. It’s very tough, and, “The customer is always right. 😆 “

    15. Other positive reviewers of Coon’s theory on racial origins included Robert Gayre, David C. Rife, Alice M. Brues and Nathaniel Weyl. Julian Huxley also gave a positive review, asserting: “a valuable contribution to the evolutionary biology of man”.

      Well with a name like Coon, what else would one expect? 😆

    16. Ben no more than 10 lines per paragraph please. Also I had to edit out a lot of rightwing propaganda from your post.

      1. No criticizing the welfare state, social spending or social programs in any way, shape or form.

      2. No attacking the principal of egalitarianism and promoting anti-egalitarianism in its stead.

    17. Its shocks me why Blacks never talk about the 1000 years of ARAB (Black Slavery), but always hard on about White on Black Slavery which lasted 300 years (approx). The Arab Slave Trade was FAR MORE Brutal!

    18. Because Arabs feel NO guilt about it, they couldn’t squeeze out any money, freebies, or political concessions? A Saudi Princess was just caught with slaves in America, which REALLY proves how little guilt they feel about slavery?

      Also, they might not put up with it. Fucking with Americans yields apologies and freebies, fucking with any nonwhite culture=dead upstarts.
      Same reason Blacks don’t burn down cities in China?

  3. You could argue that certain groups want domination in their area. For instance, Charleston SC is a black area. So you have to expect that some people will pick on you, and your going to have to recognize your not the boss there. Nonetheless, even there, most of the blacks are nice people, but as in Korea or any non-white area, it’s very clear it’s their territory, not yours.

    Also, you could say my home is a mostly white area, and there are some jackasses who want to “rub it in” with all the rebel flag waving. Nonetheless, you see they want to “dominate” this area, cause they believe it’s a white redneck area.

    1. That’s just it, though, savages claiming “their” territory in a country that is NOT theirs is a bad sign for national cohesion, plus, a possible harbinger of the savages taking over their betters’ countries, as has taken place pretty much all over the world and throughout time.

    2. Start with Haiti, South Africa, Rhodesia, Zaire (Now known as CONGO, what happened?), or Uganda, if you don’t know what I’m talking about.

  4. Domination isn’t a problem unless the “mean people” (punks, some might say cool people 😆 ) keep the “bullying” to a minimum, but there will always be some. You have to expect, going into some foreign territory, that your going to have to toughen up somewhat.

    I think it can be a humbling mind opening experience though. But if it’s in a prison it might be an ass opening experience 😆 , nah, just kidding.

  5. By that definition of genocide wouldn’t complete race mixing be genocide of all races?
    I figure like a one world government a more or less homogeneous human race via interracial coupling is an eventuality assuming we don’t turn the planet into Venus first.
    FTR I think the latter is the more likely outcome. I live by the pessimists motto- Expect the worst and the worst that life can do is meet your expectations.

    1. By that definition of genocide wouldn’t complete race mixing be genocide of all races?
      I figure like a one world government a more or less homogeneous human race via interracial coupling is an eventuality assuming we don’t turn the planet into Venus first.
      FTR I think the latter is the more likely outcome. I live by the pessimists motto- Expect the worst and the worst that life can do is meet your expectations.

      People should be free to date who they want, and it’s no sin to be mixed, as I am mixed myself, with Ameriindian. Also, I get sick and tired of bullying due to race. For instance, my sister being mocked and hated due to frizzy curly hair.

      Now if whites feel so threatened or anyone else, then they’re free to date who they want, but don’t make it a rule in stone, or something set by God, that people should be racially pure.

    2. But all of these things could be changed. People could be taught to value family life over selfishness, hedonism, and careerism; feminism could be discouraged; access to birth control and abortion could be restricted; laws could be changed to make family formation affordable; racial separation, immigration restriction, and economic nationalism could become policy again; miscegenation could be outlawed. Indeed, White Nationalists support just such policies to halt white extinction.

      Not if your trying to force it on everyone. If you got your own country say in Idaho or Iceland then fine, but not over the whole USA.

      1. Some of the stuff sounds reasonable for the whole USA, like immigration restriction. However, the hardcore version restricts freedom, and that’s what America is all about.

      2. Your not going to be able to implement the hardcore version on the whole USA unless there is a war where something like half the population dies or is expelled. It’s kind of like something on the Turner Diaries

        Anyhow, besides immigration restriction, most of the hardcore agenda is an abomination, the worse possible thing for any nation.

      3. Question is, “WHOSE freedom”? Just as mercy for the guilty is cruelty for the innocent, freedom for the enemy necessarily curtails freedom for ourselves. Like if we allow spreading of disease or raping/killing of Americans because it’s part of some savage “culture”?

      4. Question is, “WHOSE freedom”? Just as mercy for the guilty is cruelty for the innocent, freedom for the enemy necessarily curtails freedom for ourselves. Like if we allow spreading of disease or raping/killing of Americans because it’s part of some savage “culture”?

        Illegal immigration needs to be stopped. However, we cannot deport blacks or put them in a seperate nation. However, what we can do is end the drug war, and for whatever stuff that is still illegal, make law enforcement 1000 times tougher.

        Finally the “prison system” of punishment is a failure, it doesn’t rehabilitate, so some radical reworking of it needs to be done. Perhaps it should changed into some kind of “work punishment”, where the prisoner would be exposed to normal sex, fresh air, freedom from a low-life environment.

      5. BTW, if they have “normal sex”, it’s reasonable to expect they’ll breed, then we’ll have more criminals to support at their betters’ expense. How is that a good thing?

        How do we make law enforcement “1000 times tougher”, especially without prison? Lethal enforcement?

  6. We don’t really know what blacks, or for that matter, anyone, would do in a challenging environment. For instance, the jazz drummer on the movie Whiplash thought he was a good player, but he wasn’t really good until taken to the limit by a brutal instructor.

    How many people can honestly say their environment is taking them to the limit?

    1. How can we create that “challenging environment” when even attempts to punish them for actual CRIMES is held as “racism” and gets cops fired?
      The sociopolitical environment is against making savages WORK, and then idle hands become (Insert agitator of your choice)’s playthings!

      1. I never said we need weak law enforcement, but rather it should be 1000 times tougher. However, the drug war needs to be ended, and the prison system of punishment needs to be abolished, repaced with something that really works.

        In fact, the reworking of the things above would solve the problem, not deporting American blacks to Africa, hence dumping our problems on someone else, assuming they would take the refugees.

        1. Let’s give the savages a choice:
          1.) Be in America
          2.) Be alive
          3.) Disobey our laws.
          Pick any TWO, and the third one is understood as forfeit!

      2. Well considering so many blacks are in prison, even with accusations of racism (for arresting some blacks in politically tense areas), we can say overall that blacks ARE being punished for crime.

        However, it’s interesting to note that locking up blacks for weed, isn’t the same as locking them up for violence. How many blacks are in prison because of our stupid “drug war”, as opposed to being in there for rape, murder, arson, violence etc..?

        1. Usually, drugs are just the low-hanging fruit. Cops can use drugs for Probable Cause and find evidence of worse activities. You know, a rapist, murderer, arsonist who HAPPENS to be a drug-dealer just to pay the bills, but that is a way to arrest it even if you can’t find evidence of its TRUE passion? Cue Laugh Track

        2. Our drug war doesn’t cause violence any more than a law against drunk driving CAUSES drunk drivers to run over kids, women, firemen, etc.
          In fact, some of them now believe that somehow being on drugs, should absolve them of what they did while drugged out of their mind.

          Did you see the Christian Taylor case? Some thug literally feeling no pain crashed through a car dealership with an SUV, broke open several “shatterproof” windows/windshields of cars, peeled one off like a banana, stole a hat, then decided to attack a cop, shrugged off two tazer blasts like they didn’t even happen, then had to be put down with bullets–and the usual Dindu whining!

          Can you believe that friends of that animal are now coming onto the Internet and saying that since it was high, it shouldn’t have been responsible for the damage it caused?

        3. If that’s the “human nature” you think they can’t keep in check, isn’t that the best case for identifying these problem children, and having responsible adults put them back on chains/leashes?

          I.e., if they can’t control themselves, someone else has to, either by restraints, or by putting bullets through the heads they’re not thinking with?

  7. Of course, certain groups want to dominate in certain areas. Unless your getting picked on right and left (assuming your the minority), then it usually isn’t a big deal I guess a big problem comes when the whole nation tries to force a certain race on everyone. That’s why so many nationalists (or racists to be more vulgar) would want to seperate into different independent areas.

    However, too much homogenous thinking can be a problem for open thinkers like myself. I like a lot of different cultures, and listen to music from many different cultures (including sub-cultures like American black) and like a variety of food from many places.

    I guess a good trade-off would be if in say, Tennessee, most of the channels would be country or classic rock, but a few might be jazz or hip hop. Anyhow, that’s the way the stations are set up anyways. It reflects the local culture.

    1. How “open” does your thinking get to doubt that the Civilized World in ascendance is better than savages having the upper hand? Especially given what they do WITH it!

    2. If too much homogenous culture ever gets to be too much of a problem, rather than let savages ruin what we’ve built up — which I guess is a tempting option if you get too “bored” (Like what changed between the 50s and 60s?), or you even start considering “racists” to be as bad as the savages, try going to a country that’s already gone down that route, and you’ll be cured by seeing the results of your thought-experiment!
      Whether you SURVIVE the cure is between you and your insurance company!

      If you’re a cheapskate, you COULD try Detroit or Chicago, but if you’re REALLY a free-thinker, go outside your comfort zone, places like Haiti, South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda.
      See what happens when savages force THEIR shit on US instead of US forcing even the basic Civilized World rules on them!
      There’s a difference between “oppression” and REAL oppression.
      “Oppression” is when savages aren’t allowed to do whatever they want to whomever they want.
      Oppression is when savages ARE allowed to do whatever they want to whomever they want!

      It “reflects the local culture”…and will show you better than a year on the Internet, why the Civilized World controlling savages is better than the reverse! I’ve already been there, I can tell you this from my memory, but you’ll believe I’m making it up, because savages behavior is just SO different from what Civilized World act like, and have a tacit expectation that everyone follows certain “rules”–AKA “The Savages Are Just Like Us”–except they’re not!!

      1. EPGAH,

        You always say the so called “savages” destroyed the USA. How so? Nearly all the music I like came from Africa. Please 😆

      2. If too much homogenous culture ever gets to be too much of a problem, rather than let savages ruin what we’ve built up — which I guess is a tempting option if you get too “bored” (Like what changed between the 50s and 60s?), or you even start considering “racists” to be as bad as the savages, try going to a country that’s already gone down that route, and you’ll be cured by seeing the results of your thought-experiment!
        Whether you SURVIVE the cure is between you and your insurance company!

        Jim Crow was ridiculous. They even forced blacks to use seperate Bibles, which is about as silly as making them use seperate water fountains.

        Ultimately, people should only be punished and seperated from crimes they commit as an individual, not as a group. Granted though, so many blacks commit crimes now that many are seperated (via prison).

        As for the 50s, it did seem like a good time to get rid of seperation etc.. cause the culture was fairly pure. Who would have forseen the culture downfall of the 60s? Of course, that fall wasn’t caused by blacks, and it affected all races of people.

        The 60s/70s culture downfall caused the downfall of blacks, not integration. However, you gotta admit, the 70s did have good music and culture, though, as far as being hip.

        1. Sorry meant to say

          “Ultimately, people should only be punished and seperated for crimes they commit as an individual, not as a group. Granted though, so many blacks commit crimes now that many are seperated (via prison)”

        2. OK, but what made it “seem like a good time” to make ANY changes to a culture that very obviously worked for everyone? The 1950s were a halcyon time for all Americans, on a variety of axes, from social to political to economic to crime.

          “Who could’ve foreseen the culture downfall of the 60s?” That’s what happens when you overthrow something that works!
          Good music, yes, not so much culture, but again, is it worth throwing America overboard — literally and figuratively — to have good MUSIC, rather than safe streets and near-zero unemployment?

        3. Ep gah goes on and on about savages. What about the white ones in middle school throwing spitwads, pencils, paperwads, calling people’s mom’s bitches, and people queers? 😆 How is that different from ghetto thugs? Oh, wait. Now you’ll say they grown out of it.

          Bullying has become epidemic even in white schools. Can we deport these redneck inbred bastards, please 😆 ? Why should we have to deal with it. Oh wait, probably some will say “It makes you a man or builds your character.”. Please don’t be a pansy. 😆

        4. Hey, when’s the last time a white savage area got a $300+ MILLION bailout because they fucked up what their betters had built up?

      3. If you’re a cheapskate, you COULD try Detroit or Chicago, but if you’re REALLY a free-thinker, go outside your comfort zone, places like Haiti, South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda.
        See what happens when savages force THEIR shit on US instead of US forcing even the basic Civilized World rules on them!

        How do you know this isn’t caused by man’s evil nature, rather than by race alone. In fact, how do you know it’s mostly caused by race, rather than man’s evil nature?

        One brings up Africa, but honestly, so much of the third world is hell-hole anyways. Anywhere in the 3rd world, things are tough, corruption is rampant, and people will kill you without thinking. I remember this one story someone told me about the Phillippines. Some 10 year old kid stole a watch from a tourist, and then the cop shot the kid in cold blood, thinking he done a good deed, and then even wanted a pat on the back for it.

        1. “How do you know this isn’t caused by man’s evil nature, rather than by race alone. In fact, how do you know it’s mostly caused by race, rather than man’s evil nature?”
          Because it doesn’t happen in areas where whites still hold control?
          Or do you believe whites have a better control of our “evil nature”?
          And ironically, isn’t that in and of itself racist?

          Take the 1967 Detroit riots–and the savages burning down swaths of the city every year since. Now why is there so much attention on the 1967 DETROIT riots, but not on the 1967 PHILLY riots? Because Philly didn’t have major riots in 1967 or any other year, so people with money to spend didn’t flee for their lives, taking the jobs with them, so Philly was able to weather the storm.

          As to Third World, once again, most of those countries USED to have whites in control, and USED to be good places to live. Ask Italians about Somalia.
          Or look into the history of South Africa, an area where the land was so inhospitable even SAVAGES couldn’t be bothered living there!

          A cop shooting a criminal IS doing a good deed, but that’s his JOB, to protect the vulnerable from the vicious. Plus, incidentally, save tourism by protecting tourists from the local savages. You know, like if there’d been a cop there when the 3 savages shot that Australian in the back ’cause they were “bored”?
          Doesn’t deserve a pat on the back for it, nor does he deserve to be FIRED for it as too often happens here in America! (Of course, the firing is usually tacit quisling, “See? We fired that cop! PLEASE don’t burn our city down! PLEASE don’t punish ALL of us, for punishing that thug!”

          Personally, I think cops who shoot criminals deserve a roast from Gilbert Gottfried, as only he has the right cynical attitude, and the right voice that makes ANYTHING sound like a dire insult. Something like:
          “WOW! You killed ONE criminal all by yourself? No Close Air Support? No Artillery Division? Maybe tomorrow, you can kill ONE more!
          “Killing ONE thug is like killing ONE cockroach…except cockroaches don’t breed as fast!”
          And so on…

    3. Steigmann got REALLY long-winded, but the relevant part is this:
      And to try to treat men as if they were all equal and to set up human arrangements on the assumption that they are equal, when it is perfectly obvious that they are nothing of the sort, is not only brazenly and impudently dishonest, and therefore spiritually degenerating, but is actually to court the doom that must overtake any people so sunk in folly as to found its basic institutions and rest its life on a hollow delusion. We shall never advance as a society, or even build solidly and durably, except as we come to evaluate all men realistically in reference to what we may reasonably expect of them here on this Earth, as creators, as mates, as persons able to bear and to measure up to responsibility, and to fulfill some useful function.

      In other words, quit trying to treat everyone as equal when they’re not, only truck with those who are responsible and at LEAST your equals, right? Or did you get something else out of it?
      It also makes a FANTASTIC indictment of our Era of Lowered Expectations, where we’re starting to expect ALL people to act like savages, and a criminal that surrenders to cops instead of fighting and dying becomes Moriarty!

      1. You and Ben’s assessment has some valid points, but it’s a huge exxageration. Also, note it wasn’t so bad in the past as now. In the past, blacks, etc. actually made huge contributions to American culture.

        Nowadays though, a combo of ghetto stuff, an entitlement mentality etc.. has ruined the black community among others. That’s not saying though, that left wing programs are bad, but only they need to be reworked. Also, laws need to be rewritten, especially the drug war ones, and for whatever laws are still legal, law enforcement has to be 1000 times tougher.

        Finally the environment has not been improved for many people, despite what conservatives say, far from it.

        1. What parts of the “horrible environment” are not self-caused?
          Overpopulation?
          Single-mother “families”?
          A culture that avoids education and even not-so-tacitly encourages violence against the ones that choose to better themselves?

    1. Forget it. We used to do that, but there is something horribly wrong with rightwingers. They proselytize and they love to fight. They would come around all the time and I would spend all of my time refuting their stupid bullshit. A lot of the time I hadn’t heard of the crap they were throwing out so I would have to go research it. All of their great arguments against the Left turned out to be lies when I researched them. I do not see why I should run around the web all day refuting rightwing lies. Also this is a socialist blog and we do not want a bunch of rightwingers on here. The problem is that most of the comments end up coming from rightwingers because liberal-Lefties absolutely despise this site.

      NO ONE bases their politics on science. EVERYONE bases their politics on emotion.

      1. It is hard to say. I do let quite a bit of rightwing views on culture and non-economic stuff get posted here. Everything other than that is pretty much banned.

        And if intellectually honest, independently verifiable information countering your refutations of right wing claims can be found, would you allow it to appear in comments to this site?

        In some cases I would allow it and in other cases I would not.

      2. I agree with the importance of the family, but more for structural/social/cultural cohesion. Claiming that the families somehow CAUSED certain peoples’ greatness is something of a fallacy, as even normal parents can have a genius child, and worse, the “Great Man” often has a sibling that is his diametric opposite.

        Al Capone, arguably greatest criminal ever, had a no-account Sheriff as a brother.
        Churchill’s family passed on in obscurity. If I asked you about his brother, his mother, or his nanny, which could you provide the most info about?

        Also, how can you recognize the future Great Ones in society? “Special Little Snowflake” speeches aside, some of our Best&Brightest actually were failures in early life, particularly in grades, from Churchill to Edison to Einstein!
        And of course, some burnout early. How many boxers and football stars went on to become…baggers at your local grocery store, until people learned they could pack their own damn groceries?

        Allocating extra resources to make sure the Great Ones succeed is quixotic, as you can’t tell the Great Ones early on, so it would just be a matter of political favor, and we have plenty of that already!
        There’s a certain Geniuses-Only school in California. It has come under heavy political fire for…what?

  8. Islam might be an exception to the rule. They tend to be violent to everyone via terrorism, unlike blacks or Latinos whom keep violence in their own neighborhoods. I don’t know any answer for Islam, except getting rid of all of them, men, women and children. (Also considering Muslims idea of terror is nuclear, biological, Jihad)

    Note: It would be far easier to kick Muslims out of the USA as blacks, as Musilms don’t make up 12 percent of the population. Of course, I realize some Muslims are good people, but we can’t take the chance.

    1. The longer you wait, the higher the percentage gets. White population in America has held steady since 1954, white immigration was shutoff in 1965, so all we’re doing is bringing in more shit and paying for it to breed.

      Also, I don’t know when you consider the “cutoff point” for segregation, but the problem is, they no longer limit their violence to their own neighborhoods, they leave the “Bad Side Of Town” to prowl for victims. From Addlespurger to Chris Lane, the problem is they no longer “Keep violence in their own neighborhoods”, otherwise we could just keep out of those neighborhoods! Basically, we’d have de-facto segregation again, and we’d be safe.

      Something like NOT jumping into the bear pit–although that WOULD be a useful self-selecting Eugenics?
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229998/The-horrifying-moment-bear-mauls-man-climbed-zoo-enclosure.html

      What’s the difference between this and someone going into the bad side of town and committing Suicide By Thug? Answer: The two-legged “bears” don’t stay in their pit, otherwise we wouldn’t have this:
      http://conservative-headlines.com/black-on-white-murders-in-2015/

      1. Perhaps gun control is answer. I mean there are white kids who bully as much as blacks, but they’re unarmed. I think that’ s the real problem. Perhaps bullying alpha male guys with guns is the problem.

        I mean, no shit, if I go into some ghetto neighborhood, then there’s a good chance of getting killed, simply cause the gangs etc.. all have weapons, which are legal in the USA.

        I don’t think everyone should have access to guns, especially not troubled kids (from one parent homes) in the ghetto. Like I said, we need the military to go in and clean up the gangs, and then place strong restrictions on weapon possession.

      2. Right, that worked well in Chicago. Seriously? Prohibition on guns? How many crimes are committed with LEGAL guns?

        The 2013 National Crime Victimize Survey report there were almost exactly 300,000 crimes, including murders, facilitated with a firearm.

        Of those, not more than 5,000 can be shown to have been facilitated with a firearm legally purchased by the offender.
        That is to say 1 2/3 percent are committed with LEGAL guns!

        Indeed, the whole IDEA of gun control was to try to get guns out of the hands of volatile BLACK thugs. I’d say they need to invent new adverbs for how EPICALLY it’s failed! But it’s easier to take the target-practice gun out of a law-abiding WHITE guy’s hand than it is to get a Saturday Night Special out of a Black thug’s hand…At least without getting the bullets first?

    2. The problem with Islam is that the most extreme sect the Wahhabis are the Muslims with the money. It would be as if snake handling Pentecosts were the Christians with the bulk of the cash. The answer to defeating Islamic extremism is easy get off oil. That would cause a precipitous drop in the income of Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states and would dry up the finances of the Wahhabi sect.

      1. Hey, here’s an idea: All those oilfields were originally owned by the Civilized World, why not just reestablish proprietary control? Without oil, the terrorists will have to return to hitting us with sticks&stones.
        Call it a penalty for being terrorists for the past 70 years, if not the past 1400 years.

        As another one of Robert’s posts showed, the reason we use petrochemicals is because it provides energy WHEN you need it, WHERE you need it, and the AMOUNT you need it–and it’s profitable enough it doesn’t need endless subsidies the way wind or solar “farms” do!

  9. Yeah I definitely can’t see any difference between the alpha male bullying you see in white schools (especially middle school), especially in the south, with what you see in ghetto or in a prison situation. The question is “Why the hell should we put up with it?” If we should NOT deport white trash toothless cocksuckers, then why should we deport ghetto blacks, who aren’t any different?

    1. White trash bullies do cause violence, once the victim decides to join the rank of the thousands of school shooters rampaging our land. Either way, whether from blacks or white bullies who push “queers”, “nerds” to the limit, your going to get violence.

    2. Perhaps ghetto blacks bully for the same reason white trash ones do. Someone comes in, challenges their alpha male authority even slightly, and then they make them pay via terrorism. Seems to be that way.

      1. But note usually the blacks or white trash start it. Here is the typical scenario: 😆

        They throw the pencil or paper wad, or mocked speech. The victim responds to them with mean words, and now the “green light” is on for bullying.

    3. I’m sure all white people are kin. I did go a little overboard. I was just saying that white people can be just as brutal as blacks etc.. We all see the South Park 😆 show and laugh, but that’ s really what a lot of those white kids are like. Of course, that’s just what “real boys” are like as Robert said in another post, but the fact remains, why do we keep singling out blacks?

      1. The idea being if any group, white, black, brown, makes us miserable, then we should deport them, right? Even though only a certain percentage of them are bullying, raising hell etc.. But how could we deport the whole group, when there might even be families with good parents, kids, but a few bad apples, rebels?

      2. Because we’ve put up with 150 years of Black shit, in the idea that them settling down and becoming productive citizens is JUST around the corner, but instead they’re getting worse! So it’s time to cut our losses and boot them, making room for people who MIGHT be grateful even obsequious that we let them stay — after all, we would have just made an example of what happens when our “guests” take too much advantage of our Good Nature, right?

        There are tens of millions of Americans who remember being shoved out of formerly functioning urban communities by Black criminality.
        But who speaks for them? Will they ever be allowed to publicly commemorate the injustice that was done to them?
        Or will they always be told to shut up because “racism”?

      3. The idea being, if they REALLY want to stay, they will police themselves and stop their “violent fringe” or “No True X” from causing trouble to the point where deportation might be in their future!

        How many decades did we successfully STOP illegals from throwing “We Will Not Comply” tantrums, how many decades were Blacks successfully constrained to destroying only their own property, not their betters? We need to go back to whatever methods we used THEN, which obviously worked.

        The only thing I can tell different between now and then is that foreign parasites had a very real fear of being deported, and domestic parasites had a very real fear of being shot or killed. Now, though, the punishment is usually not forthcoming, or we punish the COPS rather than the THUGS THAT CAUSE THE PROBLEM, so the parasites, like “real” 5-year-olds, learn they can get away with it if they cry enough.
        Basically, it boils down to overpermissive parenting!

  10. Quote from Ep-gah

    Hey, when’s the last time a white savage area got a $300+ MILLION bailout because they fucked up what their betters had built up?

    Robert has already debunked the “non-whites caused the 2008 crash theory”. Also, how do you know poor whites weren’t taking advantage of easy housing loans?

  11. When white nationalists speak of ideal whites, they usually mean “New England Prep school boys”. But who in the hell would want to be like them anyways? They are such snooty snobs. They’re just as mean as so called poor rural white kids who terrorize gays etc..

  12. Actually the opposite of leftist PC, the KKK, had vast power in the 1920s. However, thier support of prohibition made enemies of the Italian Mob and hence the mob turned Hollywood into a leftist mouthpiece which many Americans bought into. Finally prohibition came crashing down, and the KKK dream of a so called “pure white America” came down also.

    The next dominoes to come down came in the 60s when the left pushed for total leftism, and now we see the result. Some say the left went too far. However, the right, in pushing for things like prohibition, participation in unpopular wars (Vietnam for instance), brought on a bad reaction from the American public.

    1. Take David Duke. He means well, and sounds like a conservative Christian, apart from the extreme racist views which sets him apart from people like Pat Robertson. Anyhow, does anybody buy into Pat Robertson? Does anybody buy into Duke? No, cause people love sin. They love doing what they want, getting drunk, getting high, getting free money. 🙄

      1. A lot of the right wing agenda just conflicts with human nature. That’s why the right wing has a tough time winning and pushing an agenda on everyone. They tried to push prohibition in the 20s. We see that they backfired massively, even making Hollywood into the leftist mouthpiece it is now. 🙄

    2. When will PC push too far and we’ll push back?
      Robert already had an article about a Man sued for sex with an underage PLASTIC DOLL!
      There’s a lawsuit about the BLACK in BLACK Hole!

      I’d say the left-wing agenda conflicts with human nature.
      You’re only focusing on the idiots who RECEIVE the free money.
      Who likes PAYING money and getting NOTHING for it?
      If they like sin, how did feminism get this powerful, with lines like “Sex is the ultimate expression of a Man’s contempt for a woman”?
      Do they like having a safe country, or do the good FEELS from letting in Third World scum outweigh that?

      Isn’t one of America’s greatest feats that it WAS mostly a paradise, even if it wasn’t pure white? You USED to be able to walk down any street, unmolested. Isn’t safety worth giving up a little of “doing what they want”, i.e., to prevent others from “doing what they want” TO YOU?
      Let’s bring back the Fearless, Proud, Strong, America, rather than THIS one that’s too afraid of hurting peoples’ feelings — even our wartime enemies — to do much of ANYTHING, whether we want to or not, even kill our enemies effectively!

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