The Big Lie about “Cultural Marxism”

Latias writes:

“Cultural Marxism”? Why? Why not just cultural liberalism? I do not see anything about a class struggle there? It makes preferring bourgeois values (or their radical perversion) over traditional aristocratic values “Marxist”.

The Right calls the Cultural Left “Cultural Marxism.” It’s bullshit. It’s all based upon a nutty anti-Semitic conspiracy theory centered around Communist subversion and a bunch of postwar German Jews out of a school of thought called The Frankfurt School. Supposedly these Marxist Jews plotted and encouraged the total cultural degeneration of the West in order to weaken us to make us easy prey for Revolution. As far as I can tell, this is nothing but bullshit, but the Right, especially the Alt Right, the Hard Right and the Racist Right, won’t shut up about it.

Most Cultural Left types aren’t even all that Left on economics. Most of them seem to be pushing a combination of Cultural Left with neoliberal economics. No one in the Cultural Left is pushing any sort of real Revolution other than a Revolution of Depravity and Degeneracy.

The real Marxists in the Cultural Left are usually pushing social conservatism and puritanism – see Radical Feminism for instance. Their view is about as “libertarian” as Maoist China. Socialist feminism is not a whole lot different from radical feminism, with an emphasis on puritanism, celebration of political lesbianism and other forms of conservatism, insanity and idiocy.

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87 thoughts on “The Big Lie about “Cultural Marxism””

  1. Cultural marxism is a term I’ve never quite grasped. I know what Marxism is and I kind of know what they are referring to but its just never really made sense to me as a term.

  2. But there is a thing as Cultural Marxism though, as instead of criticizing capitalist society based on its economic/class structure as conventional Marxism does, it seeks to criticize society,on how it sees social institutions ‘oppresses’ various social minorities (LGBTQi’s,[aka fags & sexual deviants], racial minorities [Jews & blacks in America most of all], unattractive people[ for females,being obese or just plain ugly, for males, being a nice guy, weak & ineffectual, no money,etc.] the disabled & sees for itself the way to achieve ‘social justice’ is to tear down the institutions that keep ‘oppressing’ all these so-called marginalized groups e.g. banning beauty pageants, campaigns against white ‘privilege’, forced integration, etc. So, instead of achieving equality via nationalization of public ownership of commerce or industry or just redistribution of wealth from richer to poorer, They seek out to re-make society in their own image promoting the very things that tear society apart because its institutions systematically ‘oppress’ socially unacceptable people.

    1. This does not exist. There are no Marxists who think like this that I am aware of anyway. The Cultural Left is just Left on culture. On economics, they tend to be rightwing. And about 0% of the Cultural Left are Marxists or even socialists. Yes Communists and socialists have bought into the Cultural Left bullshit, but they are also pushing economics.

      There is no such thing as a Marxist who is pushing only cultural degeneracy!

      1. No, Homer is exactly right. Sociologists and the “cultural left” (as you call them) widely recognize a social theory of class conflict based on Marx’s writings about class, only with the bourgeoisie and proletariat replaced with (respectively) a privileged oppressor class (typically whites, men, or white men) and the underclass that they oppress (women, gays, blacks, whatever the victim of the month is). Individuals’ relationship to capital is replaced with their relationship to patriarchy, white supremacy, heteronormativity etc.

        You can call this distorted Marxism utter bullshit and “not real Marxism” – you’re right! – but a great many people believe in cultural Marxist ideas, even if they’ve never heard the term or wouldn’t use it.

        1. Possibly I would agree with cultural marxism attacks on male sexuality etc.. But the shallow extreme WN views of beauty and degeneracy are BS and also alienate the WN base as many are obese, disabled, far from perfect.

      2. There are plenty of cultural leftists who are at least moderate on economic issues. I don’t believe they are all right wing.

    2. I’m not a marxist, cultural marxist or leftist, but after having read your contemptuous remarks about others, if you represent the virtuous majority I think the so-called ‘cultural marxists’ have a point. You write as though you hold the gold standard for humanity. What a fitting moniker you have,

  3. Real gays and other cultural liberals were heavily persecuted under Communism, as the freedom they supported didn’t go a long with the “team values” communists profess. Communism is about conformity, kind of like the military. Being flamboyently gay or in some other way weird, is selfish to most communists.

    1. I think the poster called “Homer Simpson” was correct about it.
      “it seeks to criticize society,on how it sees social institutions ‘oppresses’ various social minorities (LGBTQi’s,[aka fags & sexual deviants], racial minorities [Jews & blacks in America most of all], unattractive people[ for females,being obese or just plain ugly, for males, being a nice guy, weak & ineffectual, no money,etc.] the disabled & sees for itself the way to achieve ‘social justice’ is to tear down the institutions that keep ‘oppressing’ all these so-called marginalized groups e.g. banning beauty pageants, campaigns against white ‘privilege’, forced integration, etc.”

      You said something similar in your post in the DOTA thread, but then you turned around and said these groups NEEDED to be “protected”, even though you yourself admit that protection allows them to infringe on the rights of their hosts. I would say conforming to your hosts should be a MUST, not an “option”, or at least some kinds of privileges withheld until you do, right?
      Ironically, that’s what the degenerates are doing to the normal people right now!

      1. Actual gays, promoting the gay lifestyle, as opposed to so called “sissies” 😆 accused of being gay (which are a lot of people), cannot integrate with other people. They are way too destructive for society.

        However, actually straights can be just as immoral, as any trip to an adult novelty store will tell you.

        1. Yes, out of the closet and aggressive gays, need government protection for their freedom, but it conflicts with most people’s moral views, even though straight moral views are going down the toilet also.

          There is a certain kind of man out now, he likes heavy rock music, has tattoos, and has not moral problem with pornography, How is that different from gays?

        2. Because he’s not loudly demanding legal protection for his “lifestyle” choices, and not forcing others to go along with it, using the court system as a bludgeon?

          Said purpose, of course, the courts were not DESIGNED for, but increasingly willing to go along with as it increases their own influence…

        3. Basically, the difference is who just LIVES according to their rules, and who tries to force their lifestyle on everyone, especially vulnerable kids!

        4. Because he’s not loudly demanding legal protection for his “lifestyle” choices, and not forcing others to go along with it, using the court system as a bludgeon?

          He (the straight pervert) would if the religious right tried to ban porn, and they would do so if they had the power.

        5. No, I think the straight pervert (possibly incel, if we want to throw around judgments?) would just push for keeping porn legal, but wouldn’t say, sue you if you refused to participate in porn.
          Sounds ridiculous, right?

          But I already linked a pair of lawsuits where a baker and a wedding photographer were sued for refusing to participate in a queer marriage.
          Do you need those links again?

      2. unattractive people[ for females,being obese or just plain ugly, for males, being a nice guy, weak & ineffectual, no money,etc.

        That’s a vast stereotype. In most cases with men, they just don’t get out much. Iv’e seen nice guys get tons of girls at a church, weak men aren’t as weak as they seem, and tons of poor dudes have girlfriends.

        1. Also, lots of bigger women are hot. They got big tits, big asses. The only turnoff might be cellulite, but they all don’t have that. Some men, especially black dudes, purposely chase them, and it isn’t desperation.

      3. What an asshole philosophy 😆

        “it seeks to criticize society,on how it sees social institutions ‘oppresses’ various social minorities (LGBTQi’s,[aka fags & sexual deviants], racial minorities [Jews & blacks in America most of all], unattractive people[ for females,being obese or just plain ugly, for males, being a nice guy, weak & ineffectual, no money,etc.] the disabled & sees for itself the way to achieve ‘social justice’ is to tear down the institutions that keep ‘oppressing’ all these so-called marginalized groups e.g. banning beauty pageants, campaigns against white ‘privilege’, forced integration, etc.”

      4. the disabled & sees for itself

        You know the Nazis did want to kill the disabled. Based on various comments on this blog, Nazis haven’t changed. Just wait until they gain power and actually start gassing them. 😆

      5. Epgah and other WNs way exxagerate the threat against so called “normal white males”. Most of these so called “degenerate groups” aren’t even bothering anyone really. Now with the “black thing”, that’s something far easier to argue.

        Anyhow, most of this “cruelty” that the WNs want to implement on the world, has to be stopped. No doubt. Think goodness for World War II. 😆 The most just war in human history.

        1. So you like queerness foisted off on the population as “normal” and third graders forced to read a book about transsexuals?
          Don’t you think that’ll fuck a kid’s brain for life?

          Let’s say WWII “protected” you from the WNs, who will protect you from the Liberals?

        2. So you like queerness foisted off on the population as “normal” and third graders forced to read a book about transsexuals?
          Don’t you think that’ll fuck a kid’s brain for life?

          Don’t you think mocking a person in a wheelchair would scar him/her for life?

        3. So you like queerness foisted off on the population as “normal” and third graders forced to read a book about transsexuals?
          Don’t you think that’ll fuck a kid’s brain for life?

          A classic case of mixing truth with lies. Yes, I think “queer” stuff is weird, and I don’t support thier agenda forced on children. HOWEVER, this idea has nothing to do with the obese, so called “ugly”, weak people, or the disabled.

        4. Let’s say WWII “protected” you from the WNs, who will protect you from the Liberals?

          I’d say both WNs and hardcore liberals are equally dangerous. One is just flat out evil, the other tries to do good, but it accidently leads to evil.

          For instance, immigration is great. You get more Chinese restaurants, a lot of talented people from other lands. However, it has accidently lead to a situation where millions of latinos are flooding in, and the US can’t handle it.

    2. Maintaining a large, permanent and typically compulsory military (along with the establishment of mass-schooling and a police force) were often derided by the “liberal” Anglophone world of the 19th century as Prussian communism. Of course, as the 19th century wore on, Oxbridge, Ivy and the plutocratic state became increasingly smitten with German ideas and sought to implement them.

      Old Left critiques the “selfish” “lifestyle” New Left: https://libcom.org/library/social-anarchism–lifestyle-anarchism-murray-bookchin

      1. Yes, the Bismarck “Factory” school system were considered superior for creating the “perfect” citizen, who would never question orders, always work hard, never riot…How’d that work out again? Ask the people in Ferguson, Baltimore, Detroit, etc.

        They forgot to instill such values, they’d need to hire teachers who are now derided, if not drummed out, as “too conservative”!

    3. unattractive people[ for females,being obese or just plain ugly, for males, being a nice guy, weak & ineffectual, no money,etc.]

      It would be interesting to see what Homer Simpson looks like, not the cartoon character, and I’m sure he is very average or below average.

      But of course, as in the Twilight zone episode, beauty is determined by the culture and it changes. Much like on the show a beautiful woman was transported to another time, and there her looks were considered ugly.

      1. I don’t think many of these WN fuckers match up the standards of superiority they talk about all the time, with a few exceptions, Sam seems like a decent fellow, except I probably disagree with him in regards to mixed race people.

        1. Sorry meant to say

          “I don’t think many of these WN fuckers match up to the standards of superiority they talk about all the time,

      2. If WNs want to appeal to the masses they’re going to have to drop the superiority bullshit or at least tone it down. A lot of common so called Aryan white folk are obese, some are disabled, along with a host of other problems. They’re definitely far from what the current BS culture views as perfect, and they would be highly offended at attacks on their pride and dignity.

      3. That’s what I notice so much on Stromfront. Lots of drama queens, people very hung up on being a snob to the point they don’t even seem male. They seem like female bitches or transsexual assholes, even though trannies are who they hate.

        Always commenting on beauty and stuff like that saying how all these people they don’t like are degenerate and ugly etc..

        I haven’t seen so much bitchy crap since seeing the female villan on Snow White or maybe the male villan on The Lion King.

  4. Use “critical theorist” instead. I was always the analytic philosopher girl, with an affinity towards the biological sciences while having an appreciation of chemistry and physics. Critical theory has little allure for me.

    I do not want “critical theorists” to be unfairly “vilified” as “Marxists” while I do not want to other authentic Marxists, such as myself to be insulted by the use of the term.

    1. Vilifying either critical theorists or ‘Marxists’ is a sign of silliness.

      Marx had a good theory of history that stands up to empirical scrutiny. Critical theorists have a good point about social science being used to drive and push ideology.

      1. The problem is, Critical Theorists are ALSO pushing an ideology.
        Look up “Critical Race Theory” and tell me that’s not an ideology?

    2. At least you didn’t say “attack” (although some Latios do have Earthquake for Heatran). Latios and Latias have the same HP and Speed.

      Regarding:
      0 Atk Life Orb Latios Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 328-390 (84.9 – 101%) — 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

      Latias would have a lower chance for a kill with Earthquake. But Latias never uses EQ. I actually use Latios last time I played a year ago.

    3. Heh, in videogames, noone questions inherent truths, including racial bonuses/penalties, and consequences for actions…In real life, it’s “unjust oppression”, etc.

  5. I’d say aggressive gays, mexican immigrants, and blacks pose a threat. Other groups are not a threat, WNs are just being their typical cruel “bully” selves by wanting to bash them for no reason.

    1. I might add Muslims to the threat list also. Jews might also be a threat, but that doesn’t mean civil rights is bad or anything. Jews are just too soft on crime and are promoting racial resentment, among other things.

    2. Cruel bully selves? Who forces their ways onto whom here?
      Until these groups make themselves a problem, there is no reaction to them, which is why there’s not much resistance to say, Asian immigration.
      Knockout Game is the best metaphor for modern society: Normal people minding our own business, and these animals come up and attack US, and WE’RE the “bully” if we fight back!

      https://youtu.be/zjP39MS_GYk
      You ARE kidding, right?

        1. More mixing truth with lies. I never said I approved of ghetto blacks, and even advocate using the military to clean them out. However, that’s a far cry from eugenics, murdering disabled people, and mocking so called “ugly people”.

        2. IT IS EUGENICS! Simply self-inflicted Eugenics.
          Attack a cop or armed civilian, get shot.
          Bad news is, the one in this video was not too stupid to LIVE, but too stupid to DIE!

        3. Disabled people is kind of a strawman, isn’t it?
          Or is it? Now we have laws that reserve a certain percentage of parking slots for disabled people, regardless of whether there’s that many disabled people in the city, much less that area.

          Contrariwise there are people who either forge their own disabled placard or bribed a doctor, they’re “disabled”, but can walk better than I can. (Which is a strange kind of insult, I know that.)

          Could this be Profitable Disruption in action? Or are we bracing for MORE people to be disabled in the future?

      1. In ancient Rome anyone involved in a knockout game, as well as thieves etc.., would be crucified. However, they also let babies die in the sun, but hey, at least there was some positive things going on.

      2. I would try to create a kind society so this situation never comes up to begin with. The cops might have to enforce the law with all harshness, but it’s a shame it has to come down to this. WNs are so full of hate, they love to watch this stuff, and bask in sadistic enjoyment.

        1. Good luck with that, people have tried for 400+ years to live with savages and get them to act civil (Kind was out of the question), do you know something they don’t?

          And is it really “sadistic” or “hate” to see an enemy killed because the State doesn’t trust you enough to let you kill your own damn criminals?
          Shooting thugs seems to be the only thing that really stops them. And lately, you even have to shoot them multiple times!

          The thug in my video above took two bullets and LIVED, and a thug in Ferguson took SIX bullets to put down! I thought that kind of “toughness” only existed in videogames!

          Basically it comes down to this:
          1.) Thug living
          2.) Cop living
          3.) Innocent civilian living
          Choose which TWO you value most!

    3. Isn’t it nice how whites can be blamed for everything? Sounds like a form of Profitable Disruption!
      “Offending male instincts and denigrating white males continually, they enter into a veritable orgy of righteous indignation should one crack and go on a killing spree. (If the spree killer turns out to be Black however, a curtain of silence will suddenly fall on the coverage.)”

      http://www.heretical.com/sgs-2014/prof-dis.html
      There have been 246 mass shootings this year. How many were done by nonwhites? How many did you see in the news?

  6. Here, explain what is wrong with this statement:

    “Social sciences, in requiring a generalization from experience, are different than the natural sciences, in that the researcher himself only has the framework of his own ideology and history to evaluate his observations; so, the interpretations will conform to those ideas.

    The “critical school” is similar to pragmatism but with a focus on “ideology.” one compares the society’s dominant ideology with the reality of that society. And in the observed divergences, one may come close to finding the “truth” of that society.”

  7. Quote by Epgah, Home Simpson

    unattractive people[ for females,being obese or just plain ugly, for males, being a nice guy, weak & ineffectual, no money,etc.

    Isn’t it true on of the lead skinhead characters on American History X was fat? Also, I think the head of the German air force was the same, and given European gene tendency to be fat, I’m sure many WNs are fat.

      1. Sumos are definitly Asian freaks, cause Asians on average, or even more than on average, are not obese.

  8. Epgah wants to make it seem like I’m for forcing a homosexual agenda on people, and I’m not, especially not with kids.

      1. Because WNs fighting the gay agenda, are also bashing all other “misfits” as though they are all the same. They’re also making vast generalizations, like saying “a good black is a dead one” etc..

        1. Have you ever heard the saying, “Another nigger was made good,” or “And then Michael Brown was made good,” or “Trayvon Martin was finally made good”?

          Those sentences come from that saying, “The only good nigger is a dead nigger.” So those comments = “Michael Brown was made good,” = Michael Brown was killed.

          It is sort of funny in a nasty way, but you have to admit it’s pretty sick and racist.

        2. Have you ever heard the saying, “Another nigger was made good,” or “And then Michael Brown was made good,” or “Trayvon Martin was finally made good”?

          Those sentences come from that saying, “The only good nigger is a dead nigger.” So those comments = “Michael Brown was made good,” = Michael Brown was killed.

          It is sort of funny in a nasty way, but you have to admit it’s pretty sick and racist.

          It steps from blacks being a group that can run around free, assuming you haven’t broken the law, to a group society must control, like as in slave days where everyone was a slave, black men,women, and children.

        3. Actually blacks had very low crime under slavery, obviously, cause they were watched over night and day, and punished harshly. In fact, it had some of the best black-white relations ever. Of course, what I’m saying sounds incredibly racist and probably offends people, but it’s the truth.

          If blacks and many others were slaves now, then probably they wouldn’t be a threat to decent free people. In fact, slaves could go to college, and do whatever they want; it wouldn’t have to be degrading, but the keyword is being watched and controlled.

        4. Black men actually live longer if they go to prison than outside of prison! Isn’t that incredible. That is so sad, man.

          Yeah, it’s sad to see anyone in prison. Actually, even though they might live longer, it’s still a horrible environment. In fact, a modern form of slavery would be a vast improvement over prison. However, that idea is ludicrous and insane in this modern age, but the facts say that a lot of the population would do better under slavery.

          Prisoners have to give over to deviant sexuality, gangs, lack of sunlight, lack of work for mental health, crappy food, threats of rape and violence daily, an environment of uneducated idiots, you name it.

    1. You claimed degenerate groups weren’t bothering anyone, I pointed out how untrue that is, starting with queers and transsexuals and Government/lawsuit-enforced “respect”, plus infecting kids’ minds before they’re ready to handle it, from the Boy Scouts to that “George” book forced on third graders.

      1. But who are degenerates? Your saying the obese, nice guys, and the disabled are degenerates, linking them with radical homosexuals, as though they’re all the same. I don’t think the obese etc.. are really bothering anyone, except way to the right conservatives.

      2. Ep-gah doing more cherry picking in his arguments. Yes, of course, I agree, I don’t like gays forcing their agenda via the Boy Scouts. On the other hand, groups like the disabled, obese, skinny, or what some would say are ugly are not degenerate.

  9. Disabled people is kind of a strawman, isn’t it?
    Or is it? Now we have laws that reserve a certain percentage of parking slots for disabled people, regardless of whether there’s that many disabled people in the city, much less that area.

    Contrariwise there are people who either forge their own disabled placard or bribed a doctor, they’re “disabled”, but can walk better than I can. (Which is a strange kind of insult, I know that.)

    Could this be Profitable Disruption in action? Or are we bracing for MORE people to be disabled in the future?

    Disability checks are very low anyways. If they’re giving away money they should at least give away a lot. I’m assuming the low amount is incentive for people to work.

    Actually, though I heard it’s hard to get on disability. Since it’s hard to get on it, then why all the hate on those who get it?

    1. Koreans would like to do so. No,they won’t attack you in person like a black person. However, if they could genocide their enemies, say under the cover of war, they’d probably do it. I think thier talk is a bit more than just neighborhood gossip.

  10. “Cultural Marxism” is part of Western Marxism, albeit in a deformed state(?). Lukacs might be a starting point, then moving on into the Frankfort School and Critical theory – melding Freud to Marx, while Gramsci provided a long term strategy.

    Adorno, Fromm, Derrida, Marcuse, Habermas, and throw in the mix Betty Friedan, Frantz Fanon, et al…these people were all Marxists to some degree. They founded the modern varieties of the New Left, the Cultural Far Left of today. This thinking may have jettisoned many of the ideas of original Marxism, but not all. Individuals who are on this Far Leftist cultural side always support the more traditional pro-labor oriented Marxist revolts – Zapatistas in Mexico, Sandinistas in Nicaragua, etc. They thus embrace economic Marxism to a degree.

    These same people who are culturally Far Left also rail against evil corporations and don’t just want to make capitalism function more fairly – they want the capitalist system replaced – while at the same time many of these people are involved in business projects seeking profits. I’m friends with many of these rad-lib types, this is first hand knowledge. Their end goal seems to be some mixture between Castro’s Cuba and social democrat Sweden…

    Big business has wedded itself to many of the Cultural Leftists projects, in part out of simple search for greater market shares.

    The founders of PC multiculturalism, Critical Theory, etc. were Marxists. Marx wrote over 20 books, he wasn’t just all about class warfare and the creation of a ‘workers state’…his descendants are using his entire body of work to forge a revised Marxism that is now quite expansive and fractured or mutated…this is part of why the term ‘Cultural Marxism’ is still appropriate.

    1. Well to be fair and accurate these are academics not politicians. They don’t necessarily espouse the overthrow of capitalism so much as provide a critique of how it functions. Even Marx himself gave us a deep understanding of what capitalism actually is while also espousing a political “solution” that didn’t take into account the one crucial element, individual motivation. In contrast, critical theorists are quite good at both conducting critiques (and offering up solutions that one may or may not agree with as we are clearly living in a new gilded age of crony global capitalism that simply ignores the worst excesses of capital) and many of Gramsci’s ideas are quite relevant such as cultural hegemony (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony) which describes much of the Republican party mind-set here in the US. Essentially each candidate gets up as an aspiration motivational speaker spouting how they made it and anyone who works hard can too. This is statistically a false statement. The odds of becoming wealthy are remote whereas the role of capital is paramount. Aspiration is one thing, but making it appear as if it’s just hard work is a fallacy. Smart work is what leads to better outcomes in today’s economic world IF you’re capable and have some luck on your side AND put in the necessary work.

      In fact, most Western Marxists active in the political process evolved into social democrats who are the fathers of Nordic-style capitalism/socialism. What some “leftists” realized was that a focus on the economic was significantly more important than the social aspects of egalitarianism. With that said many have experimented with things like multiculturalism (with its early incarnations in places like Switzerland and other multilingual countries) and political correctness (i.e. polite speak or talking Canadian as I sometimes like to put it in which you don’t say things that you know might offend people), both of which can be taken to extremes and end in more stratification. I would again caution between what academics discuss and what is done in practice. In practice the neoliberals have won the day and have conducted an, at times, quite irrational pushback against the cultural revolution. Thus, wrapping one’s self in the flag, being into military adventurism, speaking of generalized civilization clashes ala Huntington and really supporting the faulty notion of the market as an organic living thing when it’s nothing of the sort (it is a system or rules and laws governing commerce). What’s more, in sharp contrast to a move towards discarding tradition for individual variation and looking to science for answers rather than religion, the rise of the extreme right in the US and other countries has been in part due to a “faith” based worldview that is abhors criticism of any kind. Thus, quite literally conservative in that one looks to the past for answers rather than present.

      Along these lines, multiculturalism is perhaps something that doesn’t work as part of state-sanctioned categories and programs and is better left to individuals (in terms of their immigrant communities they socialize with and so on). PC, while easily maligned for its overt sensitivity, serve some purpose in that it has tempered the more overt hate speech that was once fine in places like the southern US, but is today no longer acceptable. No one would call polite Minnesotans PC, but this is an aspect that is somewhat positive. With that said, the number of ways people can be sensitive to words can be quite absurd. Calling a female a chick doesn’t go over well in certain circles, but the casual term guy for males is fine. This goes to the heart of what PC was meant to be in an idealized form, a type of speech that doesn’t offend. It’s an impossible task however given how people all respond differently. For some women being called a chick is not only not a problem, but a term they will use themselves. What is perhaps a takeaway here is the error of the political left in trying to use the state for this sort of thing and not the media, which has done a better job in both ridiculing PC due to the pushback from the right AND also promoting its intent with regards to politeness simultaneously, which is no mean feat.

      Lastly, the use of the terms Marxists as an epithet vastly degrades a conversation on substance (and has been detrimental in the US outside of universities, which are hotbeds of hyper-sensitivity because there is a lack of nuanced discussion and debate to some degree). What is that is wrong or has failed in their thinking? What of the right ignoring any capitalism excess and so on and relying upon nationalism and religiosity in its ideology in lieu of rational and scientific thinking? It leaves all sides looking at each other with prejudice rather than discussing the ideas, a key point in political debate.

  11. While orthodox Marxists (of which you seem to lean towards) may not consider “Cultural Marxists” as authentic Marxists, the bottom line is that their adherents did and still do. And by the end of the day, who has impacted the world more? Marx once complained of armchair philosophers, but that is the majority of Marxists now. Outside of the third world, where Communism is moreso a veal for nationalism, Marxism has NO INFLUENCE. And the founders of the Frankfurt School saw this, and after watching stupid goyim gas each other to death in WW1, they came to the conclusion that in order to achieve socialism, it would be necessary to consciously change popular culture.

    It isn’t coincidental that many of the more radical changes in Western society (ie feminism, racial equality, sexual liberation, etc) have their origins in the Frankfurt school, as well as Trotskyism (who went nuts with subversion after getting btfo by Stalin). All of these socialogy professors teaching their drivel are just teaching Critical theory, but in a more straightforward style, replacing many of the more nuanced terms with “white x”.

    I don’t mean to say that subversion is the only notable tenant of Cultural Marxism (even then, the adherents generally believe that they are doing good), but this has been the net affect, and as a spectator, I honestly don’t care much for the more nuanced elements. I used to enjoy listening to Slajov Zizek, and he is a Cultural Marxist in many a sense. Hell, even the song “Jesus Christ” by Woody Guthrie could be said to Cultural Marxism, it’s a very broad category. But it can’t be dismissed as some small thing, all conspiracy theories aside, it is real and it is harmful.

    As far as the Jewishness of Cultural Marxism, I tend to go the route of Kevin MacDonald. It is not a “Jewish” ideology per say, but that the founders were Jews is something indispensable.

    1. Oh, and sorry for all of the mistakes, I’m stuck using my phone for a while, and I’ve gotten to comfy with this auto-correct.

    2. I tend to think the Zios knocked off Trotsky-they’d rather an ethnic Georgian inherit the legacy of communism…

      1. While Bronstein… I mean Trotsky, had a complex relationship with Zionism, I doubt they had any real incentive to kill him. The Jews hated Stalin far more, because he fundamentally changed the party. Stalin was no shabbos goy, while many a Jew made it big under his leave, many also were executed. I believe they understood that the USSR would have not survived WWII under any of the other Bolsheviks, but he also changed the legacy of the party.

        1. Yeah, I was kinda still half asleep when I wrote that reply, now I see. Sorry about that. Stalin, Zionists, whoever, God bless em’.

  12. Bob,

    I didn’t go through the thread, but I’m of the opinion ‘Cultural Leftism’ is a ploy promoted by the US political elite to draw attention from the real issues like unemployment, ghetto violence, racism, with help from popular mass media and Hollywood, to displace political Leftism.

    –Homosexuality: Population % of people born gay is actually quite small, and the issue has been blown grossly out of proportion. Obviously the US prisons create more homosexuals than nature.

    — What’s more important to Arabs: welcoming Arab refugees or US stop its hegemony in Middle East? Not to mention the wage depressive effect of massive immigration.

    — A recent example is Brexit, labelled as racist/anti-immigrant because it is detrimental to the interest of the US elite, which want united Europe as an important component of its empire/’West’

    1. Yes, of course. Civil Rights and the ’65 immigration act were largely designed to help the cause of economic rightism. Identity politics for the libs, and then the conservatives getting the Backlash…

      However, at the risk of being heckled as “anti-White,” Trump/ Mann Coulter’s “White (non-Jewish and non-Hispanic, of course) identity politics” is inherently dangerous….the majority getting riled up to blame the minority – IS FASCISM. #fact

      Race has been a documented tool to divide the working class in heterogeneous societies since 1676, after Bacon’s rebellion.

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