Robert Stark interviews Dota about Oligarchy & National Capitalism

Dota and Bay Area Guy are former commenters at Robert Lindsay who went off to form their own site. May we spawn many more such Lindsaybabies! Many more! Forever more! I always liked Dota, even if he is more conservative than I am. You can’t expect everyone to be your political clone. Then you won’t have any friends. I don’t even know what national capitalism is. But if that’s what the Chinese are up to, I do not mind it at all actually.

I don’t really mind Paleocons. I will take a dozen Paleocons over one leftwing PC SJW. I am somewhat embarassed that American Conservative resonates with me. Nevertheless, I am not really a conservative in any way, shape or form. Even social conservatism doesn’t resonate with me in any  way, shape or form. Nor am I much on the Left anymore. Nor am I a mushy Centrist invertebrate. What am I? Alternative Left maybe?

Interview here.

Dota is a Canadian Paleoconservative of Indian origin. He blogs at Occident Invicta.
Topics include:

Dota’s article Oligarchy 101 about how 5 banks rigged the foreign exchange market
National Capitalism – A Third Alternative?
Dota’s article America’s Tainted Democracy about how South Asians are beginning to use their wealth to buy political clout
Resisting Our Cultural Marxist Elites – A Few Strategies To Consider

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51 thoughts on “Robert Stark interviews Dota about Oligarchy & National Capitalism”

  1. Why would an East Indian Canadian care about cultural Marxism, doesn’t he beneft from it?

    In regards to his article, I don’t agree liberal arts majors are useless, and it’s ridiculous to make a college degree plan without liberal arts, that would make college students too narrow minded.

    I find it funny he mentioned programmers can be employed, considering East Indians have killed the IT industry.

    1. No offense Robert if this guy is your frend, but just pointing stuff out.

      Many a white nationalist has whined about Hollywood degeneracy yet surprisingly few have called for an all out boycott. We are not yet living in 1984 where telescreens that cannot be turned off are inserted into every home. We have the freedom to economically hurt our elites and it will not cost us a dime.

      I don’t think Hollywood can be boycotted. However, you can do as the Amish, Jehovah’s Witnesses etc.. do and simply refuse to watch it. It won’t change Hollywood, but you won’t be influenced by Hollywood.

      1. Dota said that Catholic boycotts worked in the 30s. Well, that was the 30s and people were far more religious back then, as now. Nowadays, a boycott wouldn’t work, unless it was concentrated in the Bible Belt, but I don’t think it would even work there (even though the Chick Fil a support did gain a lot of attention).

    2. As far as liberal arts go, it can pay off, but you have to be willing to get a masters or PHD. If your not, then job prospects might not look good.

      1. Myself I chose a math major, but that’s simply my path, my choice. Someone else might choose liberal arts, and if they go as far as a PHD, then they can profit from it immensely.

        I simply want a degree which I can get fast. An associates degree in math is fast and very useful. Plus, I really like the subject.

      1. I was asking you, Mr. Lindsay, in a tongue in cheek way. Not trying to pick a fight but just trying to be funny but bombed.

        I was defining a Paleoliberal as an old school liberal. Kind of like Liberal before the SJWs mucked up liberalism.

        I prefer to keep most of my comments light. (Ask a Trotskyite when they accepted Leon Trotsky as their personal savior)

  2. @ Robert L

    Thanks for the links. To answer your question, the idea behind national capitalism is for businesses to make patriotism a priority. This means no outsourcing and limiting imports by bringing back manufacturing. There is a common (and justified) perception that businesses are largely amoral and would throw their nations under the bus if that would help them increase their profits.

    I believe that businesses are comprised of individuals and if those individuals would act out of sincere patriotism, many of the destructive effects of corporatism could be mitigated.

    Anyhow, I look forward to your alternative left (which I suspect is really the old pre ww2 left).

    1. How in Hell are you ever going to get the capitalists to be nationalists without installing a “national socialist” dictatorship. It’s not possible. The capitalists are always traitors to the Homeland. Always and forever. And without the Homeland, there is nothing.

      Yes the Alternative Left is something like the old pre-WW 2 Left, exactly.

      1. Robert L

        The Japanese and Koreans have been doing this for decades. Japanese companies source locally and strongly believe that businesses should serve their nations. You can see this in the way they treat their customers and suppliers. American companies run over both. The difference here is culture. American CEOs make 475 times more than the average worker. In Japan the ratio is 11:1, lowest in the world. What accounts for this difference? Culture.

        You’ve known me for years now and you know that I take the culture variable very seriously. We can sit here and discuss economic policies and political systems till we’re blue in the face, but all of it matters little if the underlying culture isn’t receptive.

      2. To Robert:

        The capitalists are always traitors to the Homeland. Always and forever.

        I would argue that this is a relatively new phenomenon, at least in the US as American industrialists from the early 19th century to the 1970s favored trade restrictions and tariffs (I know there were multiple exceptions). Basically they were talking or playing their own book. In subsequent decades, American businessmen realized that they could relocate factories overseas with markedly lower labor and environmental costs with few objections from politicians or consumers. And I would guess that quite a few very wealthy US citizens have more than one passport and offshore bank accounts (although the latter is now more difficult, it is still feasible if one sets up a shell corporation.. or opens a bank account with a foreign passport..). Now if the US implodes the super wealthy can relocate to Switzerland, Hong Kong, Singapore, Bermuda, Israel, etc.

    1. Why is “fascism” automatically a bad thing? I think all people working together for the betterment of their country is a WONDERFUL thing as long as it means actually IMPROVING the country, rather than just dumping the problems on another country and saying, “What are you talking about? WE don’t have any problems!”

      http://www.tomatobubble.com/id567.html

      Here’s the “real” definition of Fascism. (Although if you like, we can get into etymology, how any word can MEAN anything we want, but society relies on having certain quasi consistent definitions…Such as rape meaning something a bit harder than “looking at an attractive girl”? But I digress!)
      Fascism, like Liberalism, is a term that has gotten a bad rap due to some people who use NAME of Fascism for ideas that have nothing to do with “real” Fascism.

  3. “Cultural Marxism”? Why? Why not just cultural liberalism? I do not see anything about a class struggle there? It makes preferring bourgeois values (or their radical perversion) over traditional aristocratic values “Marxist”.

    1. I would say it’s cultural libertarianism, as they’re basically saying people should be totally free to pursue any lifestyle they want without government or cultural interference.

      1. EXCEPT that they still want the benefits of the current Government, INCLUDING protections by our “outdated” values.

        1. Definitely cultural liberalism will lead to a conflict, since so many people disagree with it. Cultural liberals need “state protection”, because without it, they can’t survive. It’s kind of like Fidel’s Cuba.

          Cuba could never allow free elections because anti-Castro forces would be hell-bent on destroying him totally. Cuba could allow free elections, just as long as the current system could not be destroyed. For instance, a free election between different communists (as that would be much of a choice) could be allowed.

        2. Most of the anti-cultural liberal stuff in the west eminates from religious forces. Otherwise,as far as the west goes, cultural liberals wouldn’t need state protection for whatever freedom they wish to protect. Of course, in protecting their freedom though, cultural liberals threaten the freedom of social conservatives, most of which are religious, but not all.

          All in all, it’s a fire and water scenario. Cultural liberals and cultural conservatives cannot live under the same government. They have to seperate. The situation is far worse than so called “racial divides” that white nationalists speak of. Actually, racial groups, assuming the racial groups are socially conservative, can live in harmony somewhat. The exception though, might be with radical Islam.

        3. Think about it. Religious conservatives want gays to go totally in the closet. The only way gays can prevent that scenario from come about, is by seeking state protection for thier freedom.

          However, gays aren’t the only ones wanting state protection. Considering porn is a billion dollar industry, mostly emenating from straight guys, then we can say that “cultural liberalism” is supported mostly by straight people.

        4. You mean like America TRIED to have elections as long as our system couldn’t be destroyed, merely perverted beyond all recognition?
          Seriously, though, why should bad things be tolerated, much less protected? We’ve already seen that once tolerance is mandated, they try to FORCE their perversion on others, or worse, try to push the frontier a little further, and allow something even WORSE. In this case, child-molesting.

          You brought up the Moslem Cult, they operate the same insidious ways as the queers. We wouldn’t have a problem with the Moslem terrorists if they’d stop blowing up our people and property, and dress like the Civilized Worlders while IN the Civilized World–but to do so goes against their “culture”, right?

          So we have to make a choice: Which is more important, their culture or ours? Since their countries are shit–or ours are at least better enough to pour into by the MILLIONS–that would indicate our culture is better, so they should dump theirs.

          Riddle me this: Why SHOULDN’T perverts go into the closet, rather than loudly DEMAND legislated “respect” for their perversions?

        5. Why do we need a choice between the Cultural Left Freakshow and Cultural Conservatism. I am NOT a cultural conservative! I listen to cultural conservatives talk, and I think THAT IS NOT ME.

          How about FUCK both of them? How about FUCK the Cultural Left and FUCK cultural conservatives? How about that?!

          They BOTH suck!

          I am in the middle. I don’t like either one. I am to the right of the Cultural Left and to the left of the cultural conservatives. I guess I am a Cultural Centrist maybe.

        6. Not really, a lot of the Manosphere hates the Cultural Left. A lot of the Alt Right types really hate the Cultural Left and a lot of the Racist Right REALLY hates the Cultural Left. A lot of these people are not even religious at all.

          The Racist Right is not religious at all; they just think the Cultural Left promotes total cultural degeneracy, and guess what? It DOES promote total cultural degeneracy. Not only that, but total cultural INSANITY.

        7. A lot of people are supporting the Cultural Left cause they’re sick of being picked on. I can understand where they are coming from, as Iv’e always been “picked on”. However, I don’t agree with a Cultural Left tyranny. However, many are supporting such a society. However, considering forces lined up against the Cultural Left, the supporters must favor “government protection” and massive propoganda in order to survive.

        8. QUOTE from Robert

          Why do we need a choice between the Cultural Left Freakshow and Cultural Conservatism. I am NOT a cultural conservative! I listen to cultural conservatives talk, and I think THAT IS NOT ME.

          How about FUCK both of them? How about FUCK the Cultural Left and FUCK cultural conservatives? How about that?!

          They BOTH suck!

          I am in the middle. I don’t like either one. I am to the right of the Cultural Left and to the left of the cultural conservatives. I guess I am a Cultural Centrist maybe.

          I sort of agree, as the extreme cultural conservatives are very self righteous and tyrannical. They show too much homophobia, too much anti-feminism, too much narrow-mindedness etc..

          On the other hand, the extreme Cultural Left are promoting values that can’t really be promoted. You can’t promote them and expect society to run smoothly.

          However, some politically correct ideas of the cultural left are needed for social interaction. For instance, people hate feminists calling them cunts, however, could we really have college campuses where guys lurk after, and grab women’s asses?. Even though it’s highly tempting and exciting, the social atmosphere would break down.

        9. It’s not a choice between the Cultural Left and gays going back in the closet. Guess what? You don’t have to make that choice. I do NOT want the gays to go back in the closet and I support everyone who is a biological gay. Nevertheless, as a straight man, I do not like homosexuality at all and I think it is bad for society, which it is as a matter of fact. Support biological gays on the basis that they can’t help it, and tolerate them, but don’t encourage it or promote it because homosexuality is bad for society and it’s best kept to a minimum.

          The Cultural Left out and out PROMOTES homosexuality.

          SCREW THAT!

          NO!

          And yes, it is contagious. True there are only a small # of people who get wired up gay, but no one knows how they get wired up and no one knows if the rate can go up or down. There is some scary information out that the rate of homosexuality seems to be rising. The Cultural Left LIES CONSTANTLY when they talk about homosexuality. They say “gays are born that way,” but then when they think you are not listening, they say, “anyone can choose to be gay and everyone please make these choice so we queers can have more cocks to suck.”

          If you read their Queer academic literature, they are always talking about people “changing sexual orientation” except I thought this is something that cannot happen!?

          Maybe 3-6% of men lean gay. They’re either gay or gay leaning bisexuals. They got wired up that way and we need to support them on the basis that they can’t help it. 94% of all men react maximally to females. Their maximal attraction is to females, that is they are maximally heterosexual. 93% of all males lean heterosexual.

          BUT!

          Many of those 93% have tremendous potential to engage in homosexuality if the culture encourages it. You could very easily see the rate of homosexual behavior rise or fall depending upon how many of that 93% choose to engage in homosexual behavior. There have been societies past and present when almost all heterosexually orientated men engaged in a great deal of homosexuality. If the culture promotes it, guys will do it.

          You can either have a little homosexuality in society or you can have a lot. The Cultural Left says let’s have a lot. I say let’s have a little.

        10. My only encounter with gays was at a local university. This one has a lot of them, in fact a reputation for them. You might see a whole class where a lot of the students have rainbow pride stickers etc.. Of course, I have no problem with this. However, when I see real trannies on campus, then I don’t really like it. It’s one thing to be gay, non-conformist, and effeminate, or masculine (if your a lesbian), and another thing to turn into another sex. It’s just way too bizzare for me. 😆

        11. They are tired of being picked on? Well I sympathize. But if you are running around screaming, “All men need to get out there and suck a dick right now! I mean it! Go to orgies! Have a 3way! Dress up as a woman! Live as a woman for one week! Choose your gender!”

          You know what I say?

          We SHOULD pick on you! Because YOU are an ASSHOLE!

          And this is exactly the line of the Cultural Left:

          “All men need to get out there and suck a dick right now! I mean it! Go to orgies! Have a 3way! Have sex in public! Marry a lesbian! Dress up as a woman! Live as a woman for one week! Choose your gender! And especially, BE WEIRD!”

        12. In response to Robert, I think a big problem lies in the fact gays just aren’t the majority. They should be free to do what they want, assuming it’s a gay majority area. Otherwise, they don’t have a right to strongly force their wierdness on other people. The Boy Scout problem would be an example of this idea.

        13. “All men need to get out there and suck a dick right now! I mean it! Go to orgies! Have a 3way! Have sex in public! Marry a lesbian!

          Some lesbians are pretty and I would marry one, but they wouldn’t marry a man. Only some actually look like men to the point where they’re ugly.

          Actually I’m surprised such pretty, even if it’s just kind of an “average pretty”, women would be lesbians. I think the root of the problem might be that men hurt them in the past.

  4. In response to Robert, I think it’s an asshole for an asshole A lot of gays are assholes, because rednecks are very mean and pick on people. They grow resentment in the people they bully, and now they’re at college for in political power, it’s payback time/

    😆 Think about it. Same would go with radical blacks, etc.. you name it.

  5. Some mistake in HTML rendering in the above, sorry.

    Again as I said it’s an ASSHOLE for an ASSHOLE. Resentment built up among misfits, and now blooming into full revolution. Of course, alpha male oppressors don’t like it. 😆

    Are the Jews behind it? I don’t know, maybe financing it. However, the rednecks have pushed people into it, with all they’re bullying etc.. It’s all about reaping what you sow .

    1. Rednecks aren’t assholes? Huh. 😆 Look at all the Confederate flag waving nowadays. At least that’s widespread where I live.

      They definitely want to push their way on everyone, much as gays do. They (rednecks) do push their way on everyone. That’s why gays, blacks, you name it, are getting their revenge at college.

    2. Not really, it’s punishing the punishers. It’s as backwards as those rioters burning down a city over a thug getting shot by a cop. If you do something bad AND FLAUNT IT, you should EXPECT to be punished, you should take your punishment, WITHOUT trying to punish those who punish you!

      The first rule of doing something bad and avoiding punishment is to AVOID detection!

      1. Basically, it’s an all out war with each side claiming to be oppressed and having the intention of getting even.

      2. The first rule of doing something bad and avoiding punishment is to AVOID detection!

        This is my philosophy. I’ve been breaking the law most of my life I suppose. I’m probably breaking it a lot nowadays too. It’s just what I do. Being a lawbreaker is Bad Boy Game 101. On the other hand, I don’t do very bad crimes usually unless someone attacks me first. Then all bets are off pal! But mostly I specialize in those wonderful “victimless crimes.” I mean supposedly the victim is society or the state or taxpayers or whatever, but I don’t care about entities like that. 🙂 I just don’t like to victimize regular human beings, especially if they never did anything to me.

        But every microgram of that 147 IQ of mine has always gone into a rule called, “AND WHATEVER YOU DO, DON’T GET CAUGHT.”

        I even went to great lengths cultivating cops and folks like that. There were times I really deserved to get arrested but I knew the cops, so a cop friend convinced them to not take me and the cops made me pay some retribution to the guy. Other times I talked my way out of it, even in an interrogation room with two detectives threatening to beat the shit out of me unless I confessed to a crime I didn’t even do. I convinced them to let me go. They threatened me with my job (“You will never teach in this town again!”) but even that was an empty threat.

        As a result, I have served ~6 hours total in jail and my record is pretty clean.

        I don’t know what’s wrong with these minorities. Can’t they figure out how to not get caught? Can’t they make some friends in the police so they can avoid being arrested? Can’t they talk themselves out of nasty situations and convince the cops to not arrest them? A lot of times, it looks like they commit crimes right out in broad daylight in full view of everyone. WTH they do that and don’t assume the cops are coming sooner or later?

        1. But I always thought blacks were slick and cool. Also, they are good at scamming, as in the case of Nigeria.

        2. Nigeria, the whole Government is backing them in their crime, and even then, they try to DENY it rather than BRAG about it, except that one TV special where they laughed in the reporter’s face.

  6. One last comment for the night, and I’m sure my haters are saying “Think Goodness 😆 )

    I think there is a certain beauty in being the silent minority. However, once a group becomes vocal and aggressive, then they lose a lot of sympathy from the general public.

    The best way to advance your cause, is just do nothing, and eventually you will get pats on the back from most people.

    1. Kind of like that John Ritter gay character on the movie Slingblade 😆 . He was soft spoken, lived in a small southern USA town, and didn’t bother people that much. Those kind of people are more useful as propaganda, rather than loud mouthed extremists.

  7. You brought up the Moslem Cult, they operate the same insidious ways as the queers. We wouldn’t have a problem with the Moslem terrorists if they’d stop blowing up our people and property, and dress like the Civilized Worlders while IN the Civilized World–but to do so goes against their “culture”, right?

    Muslims need to be forced out of the west. It isn’t the same as with blacks or gays. Even with blacks, violence is mostly self-contained, in their own neighborhood. As for gays, even the loud mouthed ones aren’t bothering anyone, at least not enough for deportation.

    1. “As for gays, even the loud mouthed ones aren’t bothering anyone, at least not enough for deportation.”
      Really? What about when they sue business owners for not participating in their perversion? Or a University forces a Christian to read queer porn, and blames HIM if he has “sexual thoughts about the material”?
      Is this the new version of the old “I Read It For The Articles” excuse?
      (Except a “graphic novel”, AKA COMIC BOOK, doesn’t have any articles!)

      You see, it USED to be minorities were suppressed, so we had fewer problems, which is where everyone gets this shining MYTH of the fifties, low violence, high employment where your worst problem was tripping over the damn ottoman!
      Criminals KNEW that stepping out of line meant they’d get shot and the rest of the population would be safer!
      Criminals NOW know that if they step out of line, and someone DOES dare to punish them, a horde of thugs will burn a city down to punish the punishers, and the cop(s) in question will get fired!

      The Moslem Cult CLAIM that terrorists are the minority, so why aren’t they suppressed?
      Mexicans/Blacks claim only a minority of the lesser cultures are criminals. So why aren’t the rest stopping them?

      When whites step out of line, other whites put them back into line whether we’re happy about it or not. What do you think WWI/WWII/Containment of Communism were about, if not putting errant whites back into line?

      1. Mexicans/Blacks claim only a minority of the lesser cultures are criminals. So why aren’t the rest stopping them?

        They don’t feel it’s thier problem. It’s a problem of the police. Also, if blacks or Mexicans manage to get out of the ghetto, then simply go somewhere where “bad Mexicans or blacks” are “out of sight” and “out of mind”.

        1. You see, it USED to be minorities were suppressed, so we had fewer problems, which is where everyone gets this shining MYTH of the fifties, low violence, high employment where your worst problem was tripping over the damn ottoman!
          Criminals KNEW that stepping out of line meant they’d get shot and the rest of the population would be safer!

          Yeah, but the whites took it too far, especially in the south. I mean, “seperate bibles for swearing people in court?” 😆

          Such bullshit oppression ultimately is going to cause a reaction.

    2. Oh, and don’t forget when California MADE firefighters march in a Queer Pride parade:
      http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/30/firefighters-suit-tossed-out-after-being-forced-to-participate-in-gay-parade/

      THAT is “legit work” for firefighters?! Great to know where tax dollars are going! Firefighters Theodore Fabrizio and Stephen Deninno argued before the Rhode Island Supreme Court that the local fire department in Providence, R.I., should have respected their religious freedom and allowed them to sit out the gay pride event…And it was dismissed!

      Or when Black Queer movement hijacked a Black Lives Matter rally.
      Or when Black Queers staged their OWN march and interrupted a “normal” Queer Pride parade!
      And they’re demanding “special” Trans and Queer shelters because they don’t feel comfortable at “normal” Battered Womens’ Shelters!
      Black Queers are also protesting against Black churches because they’re still “openly homophobic”. Gee, couldn’t be because of AIDS being a bigger problem in the Black community than the rest of us, and/or because they still use the unedited Bible which calls queers an abomination, right?
      I can’t even rank these in order of most to least ridiculous anymore!
      Do a quick search, I’m sure I’ve forgotten some.

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