16 thoughts on “Resolved: The Deep State Killed JFK”

  1. Even though some might say Oliver Stone is a wacko conspiracy theorist, the case for a “deep state assassination” on his movie (JFK), is quite strong. For instance, it was shown that it would have taken more than one rifleman to carry out the president’s murder, given the circumstances.

    1. Plus, there were so many people that hated Kennedy: rednecks, the military establishment, the Cuban Mafia (who lost millions in Cuba), betrayed right wing Cuban militants, etc..

  2. As good a link as any you’ll find on the internet, on the subject … except for the dickhead crackpot who editorialized/posted it –
    “This story doesn’t mention two other possible triggers for his assasination: Kennedy had demanded UFO files ten days before his death, and Kennedy was about to abolish the Fed and circulate government-issued, debt-free currency instead.”
    You’re damn right it doesn’t, because it is a scholarly work of the highest order. AND because the ufo thing is manufactured/false/hoaxy. As for the Fed thing, this is inaccurate and misinterpreted but wildly repeated in the kooky, paranoid conspiracy world nonetheless.
    There is a division in the JFK conspiracy case – those who really are involved in it, that have done a staggering amount of sophisticated, professional research, and the asses who make asses out of them. The media loves these kooky types with their hairbrained theories, and uses them to discredit the serious researchers who have produced actual evidence.

  3. It’s still speculation, not evidence. A conspiracy that penetrated the Deep State is likely. A scenario where the conspiracy was directed from the top levels of the Deep State suffers from lack of evidence. All that was really required to pull the assassination off the way it occurred was a cadre of low-level rogues. And there were plenty of those.

    1. Speculation can point us in several directions but we’ll never know the real exact 100% truth, not in a million years.

      1. That’s the great myth. That somehow nothing substantial has been unearthed, and it’s just a confusing mess that we’re doomed to be in the dark about, forever.
        The media has done a terrific job at peddling this “We’ll never know what happened” line, and “It’s all speculation”. They have also done the CIA’s bidding at disinformation on the subject. Consider the corporate media to be the CIA’s public relations wing.

    2. “It’s still speculation, not evidence. A conspiracy that penetrated the Deep State is likely. A scenario where the conspiracy was directed from the top levels of the Deep State suffers from lack of evidence.”
      Anyone who says this doesn’t know what they are missing out on. Basically, there is research now and evidence enough, to where we don’t need any more answers to satisfy a case for conspiracy, even from the top on down. It’s to the point where I’m no longer interested in finding out more. My interest is in a district attorney taking on the case, because without accountability, no amount of proof matters.
      “All that was really required to pull the assassination off the way it occurred was a cadre of low-level rogues. And there were plenty of those.”
      You would think that, and from your comments you are a most logical thinker … however, you would be surprised at the help that was given to ensure its success. Nothing was left to chance. And that’s the way the Deep State likes it.

      1. three gun men hired by the cia. 4 shots. botched investigative work spoke highly of those close to the president. everything that all the witness said was ignored. from the start everything was done halfassed. it wreeked of conspiracy from the first minutes.

        1. You’ve got the basics down – More than one gunman, CIA job, an investigation that was, in the words of an esteemed author, “the centerpiece of the coverup”, and ignoring the majority of witness testimony.
          It’s really sick how so many otherwise intelligent people mock the whole conspiracy thing. It’s like living on another planet.

        2. There was indeed a coverup that the Warren Commission was a part of. But coverups don’t necessarily indicate that their participants were in on the original crime. They’re often about covering up derelictions that led to something unintended. The dereliction in the JFK case was failure to forcefully stamp out the threat to the President from the associates of Operation Mongoose. Had the government acted against Roselli, Nicoletti, Giancana, et al, they could have spilled the beans.

    3. But those low level guys lacked the ability for the extensive cover up that followed. They could not forge and eradicate documents and shape the Warren Commission’s nonsense. Don’t confuse the hired guns with the order givers. A decision is made sometime after he fires Allen Dulles, and doesn’t allow the invasion of Cuba. His generals were furious for not nuking the Russians during the Cuban Middle Crisis. They think he is traitor. These guys are spectacularly scary. They overthrow Kennedy in a coup. The Deep state created in the waning days of work war 2 employed the resurrected remnants of the fascist orders of europe. They were the hired hands that overthrew governments and created terror during the cold war. But they did not have the ability to pull this off with a cover up, called off extra motorcade protection, kill dozens of witnesses, etc. The via dulles loyalists and Pentagon do. FBI is a cover up machine. The small extremists are usseful for getting dirty feeds done. But no, this was more than vengeance it was to retain control of the American Empire.

  4. “The dereliction in the JFK case was failure to forcefully stamp out the threat to the President from the associates of Operation Mongoose.”
    This suggests that the government wanted to protect JFK, to want him alive, to keep him as President – for whatever reason you opine.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    There is plenty of evidence that the CIA was involved, and above that of “bottom feeders”. Does evidence of involvement reach up to the Director of the CIA? No. Does it matter? No.
    John McCone was an ally. He replaced Allen Dulles and had nothing to do with the CIA beforehand. Yes, two other veteren deputies were fired after the Bay of Pigs as well, but all that did was promote other CIA men within the crux of the organization. Richard Helms ran the CIA, not McCone, and they got away with this by leaving McCone in the dark.
    There is seal tight proof of Helms covering up the assassination. He was even caught in a lie about this in a court of law. Did Helms participate in the assassination itself? That we do not know. Does it matter? Not really. Why? In part because we have evidence of involvement from the top of other factions in the government.
    “Had the government acted against Roselli, Nicoletti, Giancana, et al, they could have spilled the beans.”
    Since you value the evidence of Roselli’s involvement, I’ll provide you with this nugget – There’s just as much evidence that his best friend David S. Morales was involved. Morales was about as Deep State as Deep State gets.
    It’s funny that you mention Nicoletti, as there’s no evidence whatsoever that he was involved. I’m telling you, I value evidence, not theory, speculations, or suspicions, and there’s plenty of evidence out there.

    1. Interestingly enough on youtube here in the U.K. I can access the Secret service guy being ` waved off Kennedy`s car ` by his superior before they turned the corner yet when I was in the States it wasn`t available ? hmmmm knowledge it was about to happen ( Operation The Big Event ) ? You`d better believe it!
      P.S. Just look up E. Howard Hunt`s deathbed confession, proof positive for sure.

      1. Your UK vs US claim is interesting, however, from my perch here in Texas, I can type in “Secret Service standown JFK” on youtube and the first page of results is that video.
        If you’re interested in the Secret Service angle, I recommend “Survivor’s Guilt” by Vince Palamara, and Abraham Bolden’s “The Echo in Dealey Plaza”. Palamara’s research is indispensable, and “Echo” is one of those books that will change how you see America.

        1. Nominay that`s very interesting as when I was in California I couldn`t access it, hmmm….
          I will have a look at those books you mentioned, two of my favourites are A Deeper Darker Truth by Donald T. Philips, and Me & Lee by Judyth Vary Baker, out of the books I have on the subject, these two I cannot recommend highly enough !

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