Why I Am Wary Around Gay Men

Robinium writes:

Robert, that’s fine by me.
I come from a leftist background and had to abandon leftist movements because I could not stand any more that you are requested to adopt a specific opinion on a gazillion different topics to be considered leftist, and that you are considered right-wing, fascist etc. if you disagree on even one single topic. The pressure of conformity and of adherence to dogma in these movements is almost as high as in a cult.
So I’m happy whenever I see other leftist “heretics” / free-thinkers. So no problem for me if certain gay behaviors, gays and/or the gay scene (which is a bad scene anyway) seem dubious to you, I prefer different opinions being expressed than suppressed and I don’t think you’ll treat me bad or anything.

I would definitely not treat this guy poorly.
Yes I know some gay guys.
The main problem with them was that they would never stop trying to fuck me. That is still going to be a problem if I try to make friends with quite a few gay guys.
Also they laid a lot of weird trips on me, telling me I was really gay, that I was just like them, that I was a fraud, in the closet, a fake, needed to come out, that I didn’t really like women, etc. That’s a hell of a thing to say to a young single man in his early 20’s. I have no idea why they said that shit, if they really believed it or if that was some devious way to try to pick me up.
Back when I was younger, I had to keep quite a few of them at arms length and adopt a somewhat hostile, “Back Off! Keep your distance dammit!” type scary attitude to get them to be cool enough to converse with. If I tried to get close to them, they would start coming onto me again, and that felt creepy.
I live in a city of 50,000. No doubt there are some gays here. In fact, I think I know a few. But there are no gay bars, gay neighborhoods and any of that bullshit. They just blend in with everyone else and seem just regular ordinary folks.
I did not like living in huge cities with massive gay neighborhoods. I found it very unnerving and distressing. I mean you walk into a restaurant, 75% of the people in there are gay men, and all of them look up immediately and look at me like I am a sirloin steak. And then the waiter is way too friendly. I really do not enjoy experiences like that. I can do without it honestly.
The whole phenomenon of massive gay neighborhoods strikes me as bizarre for some reason.

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  1. Seems like gay guys would go after clean cut sporty types (maybe some with muscles or not). I’ve met at least two sporty homophobes (one tries to deny it). I’m assuming they have this attitude because they are sick of gay guys coming on to them. Anyhow, they are overly paranoid. I mean I could see if they felt uneasy around Elton John, but they seem to be paranoid of a lot of men, some straight.

  2. Sean Connery’s wife remarked on them having to move out of Marbella, Spain. She mentioned there was too much troublesome attention from . . . people. The interviewer said, Oh, women? meaning, women after Sean. No, she said . . . it’s the men.
    Gay men made it that unlivable for Sean that he had to leave the bloody country. They know the man is straight, they know that for him the idea of being attracted to a man is ludicrous, off the scale, off the menu, impossible, and that he’s very attracted to females. Still, they persisted, and actually downgraded his quality of life by their ‘attentions’.
    What is it with gay guys harrassing obviously straight men? The smirking, simpering, following, stalking, staring, suddenly appearing, chasing the mincing squirming woman-in-a-man’s-body syndrome? What is with it? Sean is straight. Others who are harrassed are straight. Come on. Sean wasn’t the type to sit there and take it.
    He and Michael Caine were in a comedy club once, perhaps 1980s, so Sean was in his 50s. He and Caine were at one table. Behind them was a table-load of younger guys, not sure how many or what ages; a greater number than two and younger than Sean.
    There was an amateur comic onstage who wasn’t doing too well. This table-load of younger guys were heckling him. Apparently it got loud and aggressive. Sean exploded. He got up, probably spreading his huge hands over the young guys’ table, leaning in toward their faces:
    “If you don’t shut up I’ll knock you lot through the f***ing wall!! Now give the kid a chance!”
    To Sean, how many guys would it require to create a ‘lot’? Three or more? I don’t know. Anyway, this ‘lot” apparently shut up, as Caine stared, cigar and drink poised in midair, in disbelief. Caine always said, “Don’t mess with Sean.”
    He was known to throw members of Edinburgh street gangs off of balconies, and for other such pleasantries, in his early adult years. When gangster Johnny Stompananto pulled a gun on Sean on a film set, the Scot instantly knocked him out and took the gun.
    Yet the simpering gays continued to pursue Sean breathlessly until he had to give up his home. Can’t gay guys spot an obviously straight man? When they do, can they not leave him alone? The sensation to a straight man of having a gasping gay follow him through the market or out into the car park is akin to the feeling of spiders crawling up his rectum.

  3. Geez, I identify with your comments. My general policy on fags is I like them a lot. I find the gays to be some of the most hysterical folks. I have to keep em at arm’s length. Same reasons as you. I don’t mind that they have their ‘areas’ to congregate, but I have had the same uncomfortable feeling walking into a bar and having a beer not realizing that was predominantly homo.

  4. All the gay guys I’ve known have been perfectly respectful of my straightness and were nice. That’s my experience. You might have been either more attractive, seemed more gay or hung out with the wrong people.

    1. Yeah a lot of people used to think I was gay or bi. Chicks thought I was bi if anything; they never thought I was gay. Men are retarded so a lot of them thought I was gay, even guys who I had hung out with for ages and never so much as looked at them. Straight men are paranoid and extremely retarded when it comes to male homosexuality. They have no understanding of it whatsoever. They can’t figure out how to tell a gay man from a straight man and it’s easy as pie.
      Maybe it was looks too. As a young man, I used to get a lot of offers to work as a male model, but I never took them up on it.

    2. I more or less think that friendships are simply impossible between gay men and straight men. They simply do not work. Most gay guys want to associate with their own kind or women anyway, so why bother?

  5. Sad but true. The lurking hustle gets old. If you show a little human warmth, it gets taken as a green light. Frankly, some push it to the point where they deserve getting the shit knocked out of them. There were at least a couple who were very lucky that I’m not a violent person.

  6. Sometimes gay means dorky, nerdy or stupid, in today’s slang, and is no reference to homosexuality, or it can mean both Like you might hear teenagers say “This song is gay” etc..

  7. with gay bashing cases, gays often harass & or commit assault/battery on teenage boys to men in early 20s & the men react by bashing the gay. Most men and boys who are victims of gays usu. won’t call cops to report that a gay is committing indecent exposure, harassment until some1 reacts violently and bashes the gay. When I read about a gay (transexuals are mutilated gays/lesbians and they should abolish sex change mutilations) bashing case in the news, I wonder what the view is of the journalist reporting this on homosexuality/lesbianism. I also wonder if the journalist is a homosexual or lesbian and if so, are they setting aside their bias and reporting the news with no problems. I do not trust news that I get from Daily Kos or the Huffington Post on their coverage of gay bashing cases because they predictably make the homosexual look like an innocent victim whether or not that is the case.
    Eg. in 2007, former MSNBC host Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson (Tucker Carlson) was condemned by lesbian columnist Pamela F. Spaulding, Huffington Post & Daily Kos after Tucker Carlson talked of how as a teenager he had bashed a gay who was harassing him in a public restroom for sex. Though the homosexual committed criminal indecent exposure (public restroom is the place to use toilet and wash up not a place for sex) by harassing Tucker Carlson and though Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson defended himself by bashing the gay & after knocking the gay unconscious, he called the cops who arrested the homosexual for indecent exposure-Huffington Post, Daily Kos & lesbian columnist Pamela F. Spaulding all condemned him. That homosexual gets no sympathy because that homosexual committed a crime by harassing an underage teenage boy for sex in a public bathroom and the teenage boy defended himself. Since Daily Kos, Huffington Post and lesbian columnist Pam Spaulding among others see nothing wrong with homosexuals committing crimes such as indecent exposure in public restrooms and condemn men who defend themselves against these crimes, I don’t trust media on the gay bashing topic, because too many make homosexuals look innocent victims no matter what wrong the gay does.
    If a defense lawyer in a gay bashing case wants to raise a crime the gay did such as harassment, indecent exposure, etc. before man reacted violently, then that must be regarded in deciding verdict. A jury can acquit or if they convict, they can convict a person on lesser charge. Jury decides if it’s justified or excess force. A rebuttal people make is that gay bashers will sometimes say things to justify their deeds such as saying the homosexual committed indecent exposure, harassment, stalking and so on and that it’s the gay basher’s side of story. Yes-but just as gay basher’s have interest to justify their deeds, gay bashing victims have interest to make themselves look like innocent victims. We don’t always know the other side of story and that is usually different from what homosexual says happened. Again if it’s true homosexual committed indecent exposure, harassment, stalking, etc. before men reacted violently, then the fact the homosexual committed a crime before he was bashed must be decided by jury in deciding if gay basher(s) used reasonable or excess force. I would rather have a case where a jury decides if a man’s reaction to bashing or killing a homosexual is justified or excess vs. the man doesn’t do enough and the gay does something worse.

  8. I would rather have too much done than not enough. Let’s say a gay grabs a man’s butt or groin against will (assault and battery possibly sex abuse) after which the man reacts violently and bashes or kills the gay. I would rather have this result and then have a jury decide if it’s justified or excess (such as it Murder or Manslaughter) vs. the man does not do enough and the homosexual does something violent to him or the next man. A gay bashing case I know of from Arizona. What happened was that an 18 year old boy had been in a park with friends. A gay who was much bigger than him grabbed the boy’s butt & made a sex comment. The boy then told his 2 friends. After this, the 2 men grabbed the gay, brought him to the boy who then hit the gay several times in the face. That ‘gay bashing’ victim committed a crime-assault & battery & boy reacted by bashing him. If that teenage boy had tried to walk away, that gay who was much bigger than him would likely have attacked him because the gay had a secret violent history (unreported to cops) of beating up teenage boys after harassing them for sex & these cases unpredictable.
    With that gay, it’s highly likely the gay was trying to do something more violent, so that gay deserves no sympathy for getting hit in the face. This gay again had beaten up other teenage boys after committing assault & battery, was trying to do it to this teenage boy, but because teenage boy had 2 friends who were with him, they were able to defend this boy. If the homosexual is high on drugs such as cocaine as that gay possibly was then it’s likely the gay would’ve done more violent crime in a cocaine rage if indeed the gay was high. Again, if defense lawyer wants to bring up criminal conduct the homosexual did-harassment, indecent exposure, assault and battery, etc. before man reacted violently, then homosexual’s antisocial conduct must be regarded by jury in deciding verdict. Jury decides if it’s justified or excess force.

  9. I have not been to Russia, but with gay bashings which are happening in Russia. Though what the Russian men did was assault and battery, the media gave 1/2 truths by saying the Russian men (calling them neo-Nazis with no proof) bashed gays and put the images on Internet, but here’s what most media omitted though some raised it. The Russian men who were bashing gays had pretended to be 15 year old boys on Internet by going on gay websites. Gays looking for teenage boys on Internet replied and set up places to meet them, but instead the gays got bashed by men pretending to be 15 year old boys. Yes, what the Russian men did is vigilanteism for which they should do jail time because right thing to do is to report this to cops and let the cops arrest the gays for soliciting minors and then hopefully the legal system will convict the gays and send them to prison.
    But these gays who were bashed did commit a crime by looking for teenage boys on Internet and instead got bashed by men who pretended to be the teenage boys, so I have no sympathy for the gays bashed here. If a man were looking for teenage girls on Internet but instead got bashed by a mob, many would say the man was a disgusting pig looking for underage girls. Gays often harass teenage boys. Those gay bashing victims deserve no sympathy because there is something wrong with an adult looking for teenagers. The gay bashers put the images on Internet after they bashed the gays with slogan ‘occupy pedophilia’ because they aren’t going to tolerate gays harassing teenage boys.

  10. The men who can’t take NO for an answer. Women have been dealing with this from the beginning of humanity.

    1. & men who do that to women get jailed and there have even been cases where innocent men have been arrested for harassment, sex abuse and rape-we saw in Duke case where a woman accused several men of rape, but it was proven that they were innocent and that woman has since been convicted of child abuse in 2010 and in 2013, she was convicted of murder 2 and got 18 years in prison.
      Men are more likely to tolerate women stalking them and Travis V. Alexander figured that because he was a risk taker and bigger than Jodi Ann Arias, he could handle Jodi Ann Arias abusing him. While in most domestic violence cases the woman is the victim where men beat up their wives or girlfriends, there are violent women and Jodi Ann Arias is a woman who abused her boyfriend and in the end murdered him. Travis Victor Alexander reported Jodi Ann Arias stalking him and slashing his tires. But it’s possible Jodi Ann Arias had committed assault & battery on Travis V. Alexander or even threatened him with a knife only Travis V. Alexander didn’t report this to his friends. Don’t be surprised if Jodi Ann Arias had even tried to stab Travis V. Alexander before only that he had stopped it, except this time, she murdered him. Victim has to be right all the time, only that on that day in shower he could not stop her. Jodi Ann Arias was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and long before Jodi Ann Arias met Travis V. Alexander, she had a violent history going back years such as Jodi Ann Arias kicking a dog when she was a teenager, Jodi Ann Arias abusing her cat (which prosecutor Juan M. Martinez was not allowed to raise) and Jodi Ann Arias while testifying was not credible. Travis V. Alexander’s the domestic violence victim and in the end he became murder victim of Jodi Ann Arias.
      Most men and boys who are victims of gays usu. won’t call cops to report that a gay is committing indecent exposure, harassment until some1 reacts violently and bashes the gay. If a defense lawyer in a gay bashing case wants to raise a crime the gay did such as harassment, indecent exposure, etc. before man reacted violently, then that must be regarded in deciding verdict. A jury can acquit or if they convict, they can convict a person on lesser charge. Jury decides if it’s justified or excess force. A rebuttal people make is that gay bashers will sometimes say things to justify their deeds such as saying the homosexual committed indecent exposure, harassment, stalking and so on and that it’s the gay basher’s side of story. Yes-but just as gay basher’s have interest to justify their deeds, gay bashing victims have interest to make themselves look like innocent victims. We don’t always know the other side of story and that is usually different from what homosexual says happened. Again if it’s true homosexual committed indecent exposure, harassment, stalking, etc. before men reacted violently, then the fact the homosexual committed a crime before he was bashed must be decided by jury in deciding if gay basher(s) used reasonable or excess force.

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