The Future of Caste in India

Dota writes:

Caste based occupations may lose relevance in our era, but not the institution of caste itself. Caste is the most fundamental facet of an individual’s identity as individualism is non existent in Indian culture. As long as the majority of Indians select for caste when mating, the institution will endure.
And as caste has so badly damaged the Indian’s empathy and consideration for his fellow man (taken for granted in the west) that even if caste were to vanish, it wouldn’t follow that Indians would wake up the next day and automatically become law abiding, civic minded, and compassionate people. Doesn’t work that way.

This is my feeling about caste. It is simply not going to go away. I can give you as an example the Punjabi Sikhs I know around here. Keep in mind that these are Sikhs, and Sikhs supposedly are not allowed to practice caste by their religion. Nevertheless, they become contaminated by Hindu society and now almost all of them practice it.
Only one man told me that he did not practice caste. All of the others, with maybe one exception, practiced caste. How could I tell? I told before, I can read minds. When I bring up caste, they do not say so outright, but I can tell by how they are talking about the subject that they practice caste, they are proud of it, and they are never going to give it up, ever. They act like they will defend til the end. A lot of them seem to know it’s wrong, too. They know it’s wrong, but they don’t care.
I haven’t asked around, but I assume that almost all Punjabis in the US are high caste. High caste Indians ferociously defend caste and act like they will fight to the death to keep it. As I have never met any lower caste Punjabis or even Hindus, I do not know how lower castes feel about caste, whether they defend it the way the high castes do.
Caste gives high caste people a built in lock on the good life. Power does not give up without a fight, as Lenin said. The people with the power, the high castes, will not unilaterally disarm and give up their power (their caste is their power) voluntarily.
The first people to renounce caste will be those who gain nothing from it, the low castes. The high castes will be the last to go.
Further, as Dota notes, millennia of caste has so damaged the Indian’s sense of empathy and the common good that even if caste subsides, the cruelty, callousness, lack of empathy and lack of communitarian feeling that callousness, radical individualism, survivalism, opportunism, amorality, corruption and a scofflaw attitude towards laws and rules (the glue that holds the society of men together) will continue apace.

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143 thoughts on “The Future of Caste in India”

  1. Caste in India will disappear when racism in the west and religious supremacy among the christians and Muslims disappear.

      1. Caste endogamy among Indians is not much different than endogamy practiced by the Amish christians of western PA.
        The “evil” of people who think their caste is superior is not much different than a tall person believing he is superior on the account that he is tall. Every person has a fundemental right to feel superior.. its only when they exert tominion over others because of their sense of superiority like enslaving others or lynching others or ethnically cleansing others and take their land or try to culutrually convert and culutrally cleanse others… then it becomes evil
        Yes…when a Brhamin runs away and has a bath because comes into contact with me a person of lower caste, although it is irritating and I feel offended and insulted..he has done me no physical harm. There is no law that says others cannot insult me or bust my ego.
        So as a libertarian I have to tolerate a Brahmin who lives by himself and marries one his own and lives his own lifestyle.

        1. Why would a peroson who is a vegetarian and would not put a dead carcass in his mouth not feel superior over someone who eats anything including people who eat rats, and beef and anything that crawls?
          PS: For full disclosure I have pretty much eaten anything and everything..including Bush meat when I lived in West Africa.

        2. See, you defend caste. ALL Indians who come to this site defend caste, 100% of them, with very few exceptions. That’s why I think this is not going away anytime soon.
          Amish don’t discriminate against other human beings!

        3. “as a libertarian”
          You cannot be a libertarian and a Hindu at the same time, you low IQ retard.
          Hinduism is the most anti-meritocratic system devised by man.

        1. I know many Brhamins/Upper castes in the Us who live the caste lifestyle.,.
          Nothing they do is illegal in the US. The land of the free!
          Many of them continue to practice caste endogamy…they remain vegetarians. They prary to their own deities and do their own rituals they are used to. And I am sure many of them look at others as low castes and untouchables.
          They have a fundemental right to believe as they do… As much a christian baptists has a right that only he as a christian would get to go to heaven

        2. Why would it chaf your butt if the Amish and the Brahmins don’t care to marry outside their sub culture and live a life style of their own choosing?
          Let them be…they are not harming any one..
          The Brahmins believe their belif and lifestyle is the purest just like the Amish.

        3. BTW..you think Hindus are scum.. you have that right as much as upper castes have a right untouchables are untouchables. Diuh!

        4. Amish are very, very, very nice people. They don’t discriminate and they don’t hate anybody else. They just keep to themselves. Pretty much the opposite of Hindu monsters.

        5. If Upper castes have no right to think that lower castes like me are lower and untochables are not worthy of touch.. then you and others here have not right to think Hindus are Scum.
          🙂

        6. You’re crazy. You think Hindu caste is some peaceful little innocent lifestyle thing like the Amish. Caste Hindus are just like the Amish, nice, kind, sweet, loving, don’t hate anyone, don’t discriminate, just want to be left alone to practice a quaint lifestyle.
          Don’t think so pal!

        7. Neither do Brahmins and upper castes have to discriminate to remain upper castes and Brahmins..they not unlike the Amish believe their lifestyle and sub culture is superior to others lifestyle and choice. Is all.
          Brahmins and Upper caste are as nice or as bad as the Amish.
          IF what their sense of superiority is evil, then christians sense of superiority only they would reach the kingdom of god is evil.. The sunnies belief only they have the truth about god is evil.

        8. Then tell me specifically what is it that they do that is eviI? Be specific…what is that they do that you object to?
          BTW.. employment and admissions in school discrimination is illegal and generally taken care off in the civilian world.

        9. Fuck you are out of your mind.
          Brahmins and high caste Indians don’t discriminate against other Hindus. LOL! Listen to you, man.
          Brahmins and high caste Hindus are as NICE AS THE AMISH.
          LMFAO! Are you serious?
          You’re a low caste Hindu and you defend this shit religion, shit culture and shit caste system. Dude you’re a slave. You have the mind of a slave. You’re pitiful. I always suspected this. Low caste Indians are a slave race.

        10. LOL! Listen to you! There is no caste discrimination in India because it’s illegal! So it’s not a problem. Your mind is enslaved kiddo. You have the mind of a slave. You love your master so much, don’t you slave?

        11. Hindus are generally nice people too.
          Its only the evangelicals and Islamists and commies athests are ahole fks.
          🙂

        12. You’re low caste, and you’re a crazy Hindutvadi. What kind of sense does that make!?
          “Slave mind” is used for Blacks who think they are inferior and the White man is superior. Sounds like a lot of Dalits have a “slave mind.”

        13. For the record I don’t consider Brahmins any way superior to me.
          All I am saying is they have a right to think that they are superior.,., and I have a right to think what they are as much as I have a right to think what everyone in this blog is.
          LOL 🙂

        14. And for the record I also like the Brahmins and thankful to them for saving Hinduism from the wrath of the christians, Muslims and commie duchebags of the world out to destroy and eradicate Hinduism and Dharmic culture from India.
          I love the Brahmins for that.. and I would defend this small minority who are loathed just like the Jews are loathed by the fktard aholes of the world
          🙂

      2. I have said this many times. The lower castes even practice caste. Come to South India and Karnataka. The Brahmin is a lot better than the nouveau rich lower castes who practice caste.
        A whiny, self-pitying, narcissistic Hindu victimology characterizes most of the dialogue emanating from India today. This is what I usually hear when I listen to Hindus discuss the problems within their societies as well as with the West.
        Hindus are always the victims, never the perpetrators. They bear no responsibility for their predicaments. The world is a morality play in which Hindus have been cast as the victims, and the West, particularly the U.S. and Muslims, as the villains.
        Corrupt politicians returning from the fleshpots of Europe where they have just spent a part of the wealth gouged from India complain that the West has lost its spiritual values and is now looking beseechingly at Hindu Spiritualism as an agency of the revival of the Western soul.
        Hindus are narcissistic. Narcissism and self pitying are 2 things you observe among all Hindus regardless of caste. They are victims in history. They have built everything and still get no credit. In fact the entire world rests on their shoulders. They are carrying the world’s burden like the Greek mythical God Atlas carried the globe on his shoulders.
        Our poor Hindus are denied their place in history (In fact it’s white man who has shown illiterate Indians their history/sometimes concocted version w.r.t Mythical Ashoka who never existed in any Greek books suddenly popped up in 18th century and was part of Indian folklore) by Evil White men who grasped and understood how to build wireless communication/electromagnetism from not Nikola Tesla but from Hindu Vedas. They even built stealth technology from Atharva Veda.
        Entire chapters of engineering rests in the holy pages of this Vedic outdated book. Such is the great knowledge that has been robbed from our pious, pure Hindu.
        Victimology is a part of Hindu culture, and Hindu thinking breeds insecurity and arrogance.
        But deep inside, Hindus know their ugliness, degeneracy and corrupt crooked mentality, but their narcissism and self pity blinds them.
        Hinduism is a feminine ideology; it’s solipsistic.
        Read Otto Weininger’s “Sex and Character” to understand why some societies are doomed.

        1. I had once had to stop at a Amish Super-Market in NJ due to bad weather, I just went inside it, I just could stay there, they had Cow carcasses hung on Hooks, I just drove home in bad weather.
          Riutualistic Brahminism expects a sincere practicing person to be clean, bodily and in Mind. Only option is to limit yourself to cleanliness bodily and in Mind by limit contact with people etc. Its a pretty hard thing.
          Just visit an Indian Village, take train ride, or even a slum, or a Bus with drunkards with Indian country liqour. Most Brahmins are priests, its a higher standard for them.
          I visit a Old Temple daily the whole area is surreal like its a 1000 year old neighborhood there is a park like a Green Forest. Its an ancient temple administered by Govt, the priest gets paid RS 6000/month, with two sons in duty its Rs 18000 /month salary, Everything else is free for him.
          He owns a Van, and his Sons own a Royal Enfield, and a Bajaj Avenger Motorcycle which barely gives 30Km/litre of petrol. Does one really need such a Motorbike. These bikes are expensive.
          He has do a deal with local low-caste politicians to survive. Does his Sons really need Enfield and an Avenger. A lot of Brahmins are still living within their means.

        2. this comment look more spiritual, now this looks really like a debate of what is the most appropriate religión, not what is the best country, race or culture, like other Hindus sound like.

        3. Yes we’re doomed, GDP growing @7.5%, of course we’re pathetic after all we stood up to Islam and then Christianity and we’re still around :-). Land of rapes, well how many rapes in the west are reported, please check your own statistics. And yes we are self pitying and blaming the west and muslims for own downfall, guess what, inspite of all the crap, corruption and crime, things are turning around. So, if you’re from the US please look at the state of your own bloated economy, you’re already under trillions of dollars of debt, if you’re a stupid paki from our neighbourhood then well we’ll just leave it at stupid. This century is the Asian century, India is back in the game.

    1. You are wrong in equating racism with caste. Racism is all about your ancestry. It is anthropological, and even your skull structure defines racism. What do you think about brahman varna? Brahmin was not a caste, it was a race, which mean, nordid type skull or big skulled people being overlords once upon a time.
      Castes are nothing but occupation. And honestly, it is not going to go away.

      1. Occupation castes existed in old England, Japan, China, and other countries but no more, why? Answer is those were really just occupational groupings:
        1) The anglo Coopers no longer make barrels.
        2) Examine the Chinese family name 張 or Jeung/Cheung. The LHS contorted part indicates pictorially a bow. It means the ancient Cheungs were archers or soldiers. But for sure the average Cheungs have no persistent memory that they have military ancestors, nor they are over-represented in the Chinese army.
        …….
        The Hindu caste system might not be strictly ‘race’ based, but they sure had strong lineage from ethnic groupings. That explain why the the groupings are still so persistent.
        — Sewage divers are still mostly dalits.
        — Brahmins have a much stronger presence in higher social grouping.
        — Martial castes/races still have their presence in India.
        The list is quite long actually.
        Go ask Mr. Singh, your former Prime Minister:
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/28/india.mainsection

    2. Also, even the europeans do racism against each other. I have seen nordiccists bashing medditerenans. So you are wrong to think that it is only against indians that racism happens.
      However, indians are considered inferior races, close to mestizo and mulattos by the superior races.

      1. @Shrikant: I think you are the same nationalist. First of all, how many so called rajputs stood up resistance against mongol and turks? They even trade their own girls to those invaders.
        Second, christianity in Indian subcontinent was brought by the portugese and afonso’s actually had designed a conquest to anihilate ottoman empire. And no, his reign in goa was accidental, but even here, portugese did lot of study once again and protect pure breeds, and checked the islamization of the subcontinent. They also had links with vijaynagar empire and used to supply arms.
        Third, so called india would never be back in the game? Why? racially, indians are inferior genes. They are mostly scythian and brachid admixture. Majority of indian kings were scythians, and they were under the rule of the nordid and gracile skulled overlords, also known as brahman and kshatriya. And even before the arrival of europeans, cenrtal asian aryans have been invading. It is just that later on, the work was taken up by another Indo-European family of speakers.
        I am not surprised if many types of races have arrived here, ranging from aztecs, mayans, and even maori tribes. Because, no one indian look similar. Even from south, there is huge difference between a person from kerala and person from tamil nadu. And you want to make an India when there is absolutely no homogeneity in looks?
        Stop dreaming about rise of India.

        1. RAO
          If you knew Brahmin overseas and the Gujarati merchants you would understand that they do not give a single shit about India’s rise. None, zero.
          Indian nationalism is the preoccupation of middle and lower-castes while the Brahmin are off living in Dubai or California not giving a single sweet shit about India or their Indian identity.
          To some degree, Brahmin would rather be around whites than a Nair. In fact they sure as shit would prefer living in New Jersey with whites than around other Indians.
          As for Goans, they are Latin Mestizos just like everywhere else the Portuguese went and badly used the local women. Goans are mixed bloods.

      2. RAO
        Who do you define as a “superior race”?
        You Indians managed to fairly well get Brits drilled into your skulls as masters and lords but they were never anything but an island off Germany to the Europeans.
        Here is something to remember, Desi.
        No Englishman has given a single solitary shit about your country for 70 years since Independence and even then few of them gave a shit out your county.
        If Indians choose to be obsessed with the British it is a reflection of their triviality and lack of importance.

        1. You talk about yourself first thrash. you don’t even have guts to put your pic.
          And FYI, you know nothing about anthropology or history. Do you really think that british people were not willing to left India, if they did not consider India importnat? the only reason that why they left is because of WW2.
          And, I am an olive skinned person, moderately light, in fact, my skin burn, as I am fair Here’s the proof.
          https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-said-that-North-Indians-are-lighter-skinned-than-South-Indians/answer/L%C3%A1mbu-Radhakrishna-Bharadwaj.
          Even if indians are fairer than me, they still won’t have my type of eyes and skull.
          1) I am an inbreed, and I resemble more of those andronovo/yamna people. Here is the description of Yamna culture:
          “The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al. (2014), Mathieson et al. (2015): they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[25][6] Despite their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.[26]”
          And yes, even I have problem in digesting milk, and any other dairy product. Got it now? Due to my inbreeding?
          2) You talk a lot about brahmins being associated with white man etc. I was moderator of 4 pakistani forums facebook, and now, I am in an international anthropological site, who broke off from the apricity and stormfront. And I am not drumming about it.
          3) Now, know this, my ancestors were land lords, even under british rule, despite doctrine of lapse. And both, my grandfather and his brother were adopted by their aunt. And the lands which they got belonged to their mother’s side, not paternal side.
          4) My original ancestors are giants, and in vedas, they are known as daityas.
          5) Also, you equate brahmin caste with race of brahmans. Long time back, when aryans arrived towards the indus valley, they had tussle going on with the dravidian brahmanism. In reality, the brahmanical culture has its origin in dravida. And majority of the dravida or druid types are mountain indics, or pahari. These people, earlier, penned down sanskrit language and composed rig veda, and then, slowly and steadily, got into position of power by labelling aryans as mlechhas. Then, certain aryans broke the norm of sapta sindhu and migrated towards gangasthan, and tried to create an aryanism culture of dravidian brahmanism. That’s how brahmanism got into vedic fold, but not all brahmins are aryans. What you see in the name of those timid brahmins are mountain indics bred with certain type of other dravidian race.
          And, you pose yourself here as a GORA, but you don’t have picture of yours. Your writing style is purely a bengali. And part of brahmins trying to associate with white is because, it were the light skinned eurasian andronovo aryans, who had elevated these mountain indics as a clergymen/brahmin to compose sanskrit and rigveda, and that’s why, the desi clergies always want to be associated with a foreign race.
          I don’t even know what you are fighting for, because, you just come here, write something, with no basis, and then call everyone as DESI, without even getting into details.

  2. Brahmins and uppercastes have every right to think others are scums and untouchables as much y’all here feel you have a right to think Hindus are scums.
    PERIOD.

  3. I see a blog entry here titled “Are Blacks closer to Apes”.
    Now, what is wrong with upper castes thinking white people like you and carcass eaters like us are low life?

    1. I have to agree with you.. I never understood why blacks in the US are even christians.. its the christians who enlsaved the and lynched them and and even today, in the babel belt, they have white christian caste churches and black christian caste churces…and when the black congregation in a church reaches critical mass, the white christian castes hit the exit…
      So the reason why blacks remain christian a culture of their slave masters…yes..Stockholm syndrome is the only logical thing I can think off.

      1. Yet you fully understand why low caste sutras and dalits who are
        80% of your co-religionists, are Hindus? 🙂
        How do you imagine the ancestors of this majority of Hindus accepted their low status in Hinduism if not through force?

    2. The most pathetic scene to see in India is to witness Stockholm syndrome in the form of an Indian christian convert wearing a three piece suit and bow tie to go to church in 110 degree weather.

  4. I feel superior..not because of my caste or race or even religion… But for my sense of reason and to see through hateful aholes.
    Now is that so wrong?
    🙂

    1. “I feel superior..not because of my caste or race or even religion… But for my sense of reason and to see through hateful aholes.”
      How can you fell superior if your wicked and hateful religion tells you that you are inferior and untouchable by birth, you irrational fool? 🙂

      1. Wicked and hateful religion? If you’re from the Abrahamaic faiths, well you leave out from heaven and salvation anyone who is not a believer. And for religion of peace, the less said the better what with ‘kill the unbelievers wherever you see them’ and all that. Both Abrahamaic religions were spread by the sword and destroyed entire native cultures. And the persecution you put your elder brothers the Jews through is shameful, even God will not forgive you. So yes you’re welcome to try and kill the brahmins, just try and then we’ll see.

    2. My religion is liberty of faith and thoughi… it has no scriptures that I have believe in to be a Hindu …so your premise falls flat on your face. 😉

      1. You are an ignorant liar. You are not a hindu if you do not believe in the revealed scripture of Hinduism, the Vedas.

        1. Sorry dear, Hindu refers to anyone born in the area of the Indus, it does not refer to a religious identity. The name of the religion is Sanatan Dharma. And unlike you we’re comfortable with non-believers and blasphemers and those who wish to adopt other faiths. Cheers

  5. Hey, C- I saw on another post where you said you are an atheist.
    I agreed with alot of what you said…Christianity had a pretty f-ed up record for quite awhile…but has been the most innocuous of the big religions for a long time now. Even at its very worst nowadays, it is no match for fundamentalists or fanatics from the others. (Bosnia might be an exception recently- but they were all genociding each other, and it was ethnic, not just religious in nature)
    That Manny POS has got some balls saying the Hutu-Tutsi thing was Christian-inspired. Hardly.
    One question: How do you figure atheism “preaches” any of the stuff you say it does? First, it is not a religion, creed, or doctrine. It doesn’t suggest anything.
    The absence of a belief is not in itself a belief. There are millions, maybe billions, of moral “atheists.”
    We are all “atheists” when it comes to all the religions we don’t believe in, like the gods of the Greeks and Romans, for instance. Boy, will they be pissed at us when we die and have to face them…

    1. That should read “Church Politics and Genocide in Rwanda.
      And this from Wiki. This is the kid of the “secularists” MAx Muller. and the Anglicals are doing in India..but the Aryan Invasion BS.
      Quote
      Belgian rule created more of an ethnic divide between the Tutsi and Hutu, and they supported Tutsis political power. Due to the eugenics movement in Europe and the United States, the colonial government became concerned with the differences between Hutu and Tutsi. Scientists arrived to measure skull—and thus, they believed, brain—size. Tutsi’s skulls were bigger, they were taller, and their skin was lighter. As a result of this, Europeans came to believe that Tutsis had Caucasian ancestry, and were thus “superior” to Hutus. Each citizen was issued a racial identification card, which defined one as legally Hutu or Tutsi. The Belgians gave the majority of political control to the Tutsis.

  6. I agree that upper castes that are also economically priveleged will probably hold onto caste the longest. This will come from an egotistical sense of superiority and the wish to hold onto high social status.

    1. Brahmins are one of the poorest folks in India… temple priests earn less tha minimum wage. They are not paid like christian priests and pastors

        1. Causes of obesity are many,Main reason why they have fat belly is they dont partake in physical work
          And about left over food ,many such stupid rituals exist
          Priestly brahmins are just like mullahs, both are dangerous for society and both these scum must be destroyed
          Entire priesthood must be destroyed in India, i am fully for it,but there is problem , lot of politicians,stupid people need brahmin priests and mullah’s to find some purpose in their life
          even if we destroy this priestly scum, the output will be a generation of brainwashed zombies
          Thats why i feel WW3 must happen in Asia and india must get involved,only a large war can turn society upside down, only chaos can recreate order
          During crisis ugly side of india will be exposed, every one left for themselves and social darwinism at work will destroy many useless people.
          I am fully in favor for such event , even if some one here thinks i am some sociopath, its fine, only a great crisis can alter the indian Society,the sooner such crisis knocks the door the better
          All those Aid workers and useless left wing sympathizers must be stopped from donating to any social program for helping indians
          You must let social darwinism take its course,

        2. BTW why do you have this moniker “Kill_The_Brahmins”
          Should I change mine to “Kill the Dalits” or Kill the evangelicals or the Kill the Islamists? or keep it simple like “Kill the Hindu haters”? Maybe?
          What do you suggest?
          😛

        3. what I find fascinating is this.. The leftists of India feel …the backward castes who make up 80% of India can use the Tyranny of the majority (India is a mob rule as in Democracy …where “three wolves and a chicken” gets to vote for whats for supper., because they were slighted by the Brahmins.. Yes..there was no physical violence.. even in that article..it was pure insult maybe..but no violence and no killings. that you can “Kill the Brahmins” eh?
          So what should Hindus do to Muslims of India for 700 years of Islamic Iconoclasm of destroying Hindus places of Worship.. Aren’t Hindus t large entitled to some opf the hate you hold in your heart?

        4. “BTW why do you have this moniker “Kill_The_Brahmins”
          Should I change mine to “Kill the Dalits” or Kill the evangelicals or the Kill the Islamists? or keep it simple like “Kill the Hindu haters”? Maybe?
          What do you suggest?”
          I suggest you renounce hindu “morality” which makes you equate the oppressor with the oppressed. The Brahmins are evil assholes who totally deserve to be killed for their crimes against humanity. The dalits, sudras, women of all castes, are their victims. What did the dalits, sudras, and women ever do to the Brahmins that makes you wicked devils want to kill them?

  7. “even if caste were to vanish, it wouldn’t follow that Indians would wake up the next day and automatically become law abiding, civic minded, and compassionate people.”
    Obviously caste wont ‘vanish’. If it happens, it will be gradual. Who knows how the attitudes of future generations will change? In many ways, my generation thinks quite differently to my grandparents. That probably didn’t happen in the middle ages or at times when grandparents and their grandchildren grew up in the same world, socially and technologically. There was a lot more continuity before modern times. One of the features of modernity is fast change How much more could attitudes change in 6 or 8 generations, especially given how much the world is changing?

  8. The reason whites have this aversion for caste is, they have rationalized to themselves that Racism is understandable but “discrimination” within the same “race” is outrageous!
    Ha HA!
    But the cluelessness of it, they don’t rease Caste does not mean discrimination. Caste is nothing but classification/nomenclature where everyone participates in it willingly for the most part.
    Now why would a beef eating low castes want to be a Brahmin/Upper caste?
    As a libertarian, its every individuak’s right to live and associate with whoever they choose to be with. PERIOD. As long as they do not exert dominion over others to control them or injure them (like the christian slavery and christian lycnhings) or discriminate in jobs and other public places like christian babel belt “Jim Crowe”.
    You cannot have a legislation in the US to force white people to marry black people,,,either.
    BTW..why is it even after 300 years, white christians do not generally marry black christians? In places like Brazil they have mixed pretty good.. So why the caste practice in the US?

    1. I don’t see anything wrong with caste in India.
      But the caste system among christians,..now that is a killer. Slavery, Lynchingsm Jim Crowe..what not..Now, that is horrible..
      We in the US need a constitutional amendment force white people to marry black people. Unless they marry and breed and wipe out the pure white race… this christian caste system is not going to go away.
      Priority folks..Priority here.

      1. Not sure why Hindoo uses Christian name to post funny hindutava caste posts…
        whats ur IP Dude………

    1. Yes I am Hindu. Proud of it…since this moral religion of 5000 years have come out without the horrors and dead bodies of the more recent Abrahamic faiths like Islam and christianity.
      Haven’t you guys heard of Manny Rathnam Kutrappalli or ManyRathanm Nahsimapathilan?
      Sheesh Its pretty common name where I come from. 😉

      1. could you talk about the Love and Power of your God Brahman and his Devas Ganesha or Hanuman, the Hindu equivalent of Christian angels

        1. christians attribute miracles to Jesús, do you feel Brahman have made some miracle on your life

        2. A two bit common magician can make tricks and fool people and yes..there are Hindu swami frauds who like Jesus go around doing tricks to fool the gullible.
          “Brahman” is a broad concept for God… its more closer to how Muslims define God… IT has no form or can even be defined.. H Its because “Brahman” is such an abstract, they have Avatars.. like Vishnu, Brahma,etc so…Even this is not “Fact” or revelation.. They are philosophical… without damnation if you you don’t by it. Hinduism has no revelation…no single founder or Institution. Its freedom for individuals to pursue without threat of Hell fire.
          Because there are no rigid rules nor any Institution to enforce any in a “libertarian” faith called Hinduism, naturally you would find some odd and strange practices within Hinduism including some bizarre Tantric rituals. Missionaries and religious supremacists and leftists often highlight these sects/practices to point to the failure of Hinduism just like countries that have a tyrannical political system who point to pornography as the central tenet of free society to rationalize the supremacy of their tyrannical ideology/belief system. Most Hindus would tolerate these bizarre tantric practices (within the context of a law and order) but not necessarily celebrate them as Hindu rituals/customs. .

        3. I got the impressions because these Hindu devotees sing to their deities, why, i guess just like christians sing to Jesús because love, However some people says the Hindus ask for favors to their deities, who knows, i got confused, also the Hindu priests bless the devotees, blessing is like using the power of their God or is to obtain some miracle. This is confusing, i think i shouldn’t think too much in this subject.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hr3A_xNF5o

        4. True.
          Its interesting..Catholics used to and still do something similar in Mexico.. like in the movie The Godfather Part II, in the Italian town, they take Mother Mary on a procession throwing money at the idol and what not.
          Although I am a Hindu, I have not been inside a temple in 15 years, I don’t have any Hindu iconography in my house. I don’t pray. Yet I find the Vedantas thought provoking in a very cerebral way. Here is the Gensis in the Rig Veda.. See the skepticism in built in it. (Line 6 and 7). Thats why there is no heresy in Hinduism
          HYMN CXXIX. Creation.
          1. THEN was not non-existent nor existent: there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it. What covered in, and where? and what gave shelter? Was water there, unfathomed depth of water?
          2 Death was not then, nor was there aught immortal: no sign was there, the day’s and night’s divider. That One Thing, breathless, breathed by its own nature: apart from it was nothing whatsoever.
          3 Darkness there was: at first concealed in darkness this All was indiscriminated chaos. All that existed then was void and form less: by the great power of Warmth was born that Unit.
          4 Thereafter rose Desire in the beginning, Desire, the primal seed and germ of Spirit.Sages who searched with their heart’s thought discovered the existent’s kinship in the non-existent.
          5 Transversely was their severing line extended: what was above it then, and what below it?There were begetters, there were mighty forces, free action here and energy up yonder
          6 Who verily knows and who can here declare it, whence it was born and whence comes this creation?The Gods are later than this world’s production. Who knows then whence it first came into being?
          7 He, the first origin of this creation, whether he formed it all or did not form it,Whose eye controls this world in highest heaven, he verily knows it, or perhaps he knows not.

        5. An average John Doe don’t want cerebral challenges. They want something simple, Pray to the Green Goblin up in the heavens and ask for favors and hopefully He would reward you for begging. HA HA!
          This sort of thing is common across the board the the world over.

      2. You must come from south India then.
        As for Hinduism being a “moral” religion, don’t make us laugh. Does India look like a country of moral and compassionate people? Hinduism is by far the cruelest religion of all.

        1. Hindus did not enslave anyone, did not lynch anyone, did not commit the Holocaust, did not forcefully convert anyone,..did not invade and take others land and ethnically cleanse anyone under some some shit christian logic like “Manifest destiny” , did not lie to their own children that their faith is is fking “History”.
          At the worst, you can say they offended others by words…like Insults which is no more than the insults Hindus get here in this blog.
          But take the Muslims for instance…they killed and killed and forecefully converted others to be Muslims and destroyed others place of worship for 7000 fking years in India. What an evil; fking fked up religion is Islam eh?
          And what about the Goa inquisition… They tortured Hindus to become Christians and those mother fkers suffer from “Stockholm syndrome” today by supporting their own persecutors… what a dumb shit fks they are eh?
          Take for example the Indian Constitution.. it was actually taken from the American and the English (unwritten) constitution 90% of the time..but that untouchable dalit duchebag Ambedkar plagiarized it as his own.. The fker has no common decency..Why do you think many of us call him a fking “Untouchable”.. Like Martin Luther Jr said, ” Lets not judge by the color of our skins, but lets judge by the content of our character… and by judging by the content of character, Ambedkar is an untouchable duchebag.

        2. “Hindus did not enslave anyone, did not lynch anyone, did not commit the Holocaust, did not forcefully convert anyone,..did not invade and take others land and ethnically cleanse anyone under some some shit christian logic like “Manifest destiny” , did not lie to their own children that their faith is is fking “History”. ”
          You lie to your children that a monkey and other characters from books of fiction are gods and pray to silly looking dolls in their image.
          Untouchability is far worse than slavery. Slavery ends, untouchability has lasted continuously for ages. Literally millions of untouchables have been killed nd raped over millennia. Even under western copied democracy dalits are raped and killed on a daily basis in India.
          Casteism itself to Hindus is divinely ordained manifest destiny. The most stupid and non-meritocratic system concocted by wicked assholes like you.
          Of course force had to be used to keep the 80% of Hindus who are not twice-born or upper caste in their lowly servile status. Who would willingly agree to join a cult that makes them nd all their descendants servants in perpetuity?
          And this is why Brahmins deserve to be killed. History has not seen oppressors more evil than them.

        3. At least they don’t worship a Pedophile like Mohammad the child fker. A Monkey is so much better than a child fker Mohammad.
          😛

        4. I can forsee the future..some allah worshipper from the current phony allah worshippers will take over Saudi oil and then the US will drop the big one over their Islamic Idol (The black stone) called Kaba or whatever that shit is called.
          America believes in “Kick their ass and take their gas”.. Heeeh Haw! 😛

        5. “At least they don’t worship a Pedophile like Mohammad the child fker. A Monkey is so much better than a child fker Mohammad.”
          Actually Hinduism is by far the most pedophilic religion/culture of all. Mohammad, no role model for sure, consummated his marriage to his youngest wife after she reached puberty. The hindus on the other hand have for ages been copulating with pre-pubescent girls as young as 4 years old. And this evil pedophilia is sanctioned in their holy scriptures such as the Manu Smriti!
          http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/pedophilia-and-adult-child-sex-as-norms-of-indian-hindu-culture/

        6. although Hindus used to marry at an early age where both boys and girls were of similar age..this was pretty common even among the chrsitianss and around the world…. Even today in the US, young teens have sex…except they are not married
          But the fact that that a 70 year old actually fked a 9 year old girl Aiysiha and then on top of that you actually worship this Pedophile.. now that is an abomination in any sense of the world.

        7. “although Hindus used to marry at an early age where both boys and girls were of similar age.”
          There is no end to the stupid lies of these hindutvadis. How can a prepubescent boy copulate with a prepubescent girl, you low IQ retard?
          The Hindu scriptures sanctioned the marriage of adult men with prepubescent little girls. This is how sick your beloved Hindu culture is.

        8. Cruelest religion? Which religions do you feel are cruel? What is your comparison set? And what is your knowledge of Sanatan Dharma apart from the visible, horrible distortions?

      3. Hinduism has killed more people than all other religions combined. Including through human sacrifices and widow burnings. These evil barbaric Hindu “religious” practices went on for millennia…..until the British rulers of India finally outlawed them in the 19th century.

        1. BTW…the Babel is not history..its a lie
          The earth is not 4000 years old..Hinduism itself older than 5000 years.. Hinduism is older than the imagination of Christians.
          What a shame.. .
          HA HA HA HA HA!

        2. Kill_The_Brahmins: we will crush the filthy Dalits and other swine traitors before you lay your fingers on Brahmins. Islam is the most dangerous religions in their world their teaching preaches killing for even small detractors get a grip of reality before vomiting in the internet. Hinduism is tolerant as it has survived despite traitor rats like you.

        3. Ok, how many. What is the source of your data. Which authors are you quoting. Now shut the fuck up and finish your leftover biryani.

  9. All these Christians, Muslims, Dalits, OBCs, and their GODs will completely destroy the Hindu Gods, and send the “true Brahmins” to Eternal Hell. I know for sure that they will do these things.

      1. “The minute you think of giving up any relation,think of the reason why you held it so long” This is for all brahmin boys n girls if you cant fight for your love then dont do love out of your community n religion..you all dont have right to hurt people feelings n at the end hurt badly to left alone for whole life..

  10. insaan apne guno se upar uthta hai unche staan pr baith jane se nhi..caste n community created by NUT people jin logo ko khud ko dusro se shreshth batane ke liye apne aapko ek high community mein rakh liya or dusro ko niche dikhane ke liye lower community mein rakh diya gaya bina unki marzi jane…i want to tell to all bloody hindu people community ye decide nhi kregi bastard ki tum kitne high or low ho…tumhare karam tumhe upar or niche girane wale hai…arre gadho god ne insaan banaye hai caste nhi…gadho aisa hota toh christan or muslim mein bhi aise hi char community hoti bt tum log unko as all christan n as all muslim hi bolte ho…tum bloody hindu logo ne khudh hi apne bando ko khudh se alag kr diya…char community hai hindu mein let me explain it to very well suno gadho…hindu ko as a body lo us body ke char hisse tum gadho ne kiye 1st brahmin jisko sir ka staan diya or kshatriye ko bhuja or vaishya ko pait ka or tum sabki favorite community shudr jisko per ka staan diya….ab gadho batao agr per kat doge toh kya apni manzil ki taraf tunde ho ke jayoge tum sb apahiz ho yaad rkhna..agr hmari body ka ek part bhi kat jaye toh hum apahiz kehlate hai toh tum bloody hindu khudh apahiz ban chuke ho..ek bade se bada brahmin or devta bhi jb apne maa baap ntmastak hone ke liye sir jhukata hai toh woh uske charno ko choone ke liye toh akal ke andho sabse uncha staan toh shudr log prapt kr chuke hai…tum nhi tum gire huye ghatiya egoist bande ho jisko god bhi narak mein dalega….i m also brahmin bt i hate castsim okh….say no to community n caste den reservation should be stop itself…abroad isliye develop kr raha hai bcs unka mind indian ghatiya logo ki tarah nhi hai especially katar hindu..1000 saal baadh bhi india mein koi development nhi hogi yeh aise hi high low ke liye hi mrte rahenge…we all r hindu idiot we all r same koi lower or high caste nhi hai..

  11. All stupid people living in India that’s why this country cant be develop anymore as the other countries are well developed. Bcoz indian people live in caste-ism and egoist by nature especially who belong to upper class which is created by themselves not created by God.God only created human being..He didnt put any human in high and low category..This cheap things only created by some bastard itself who live in India..and they be proud by called themselves hindu..I am also hindu but i wanna spit on that every person who proudly said they are hindu but their thinking is so narrow minded..now its depend on human what they want to become Devil or Angel..Nobody is lower and higher by caste or religion..they become high and low by their behavior..Reservation should be stop itself when you all leave this stupid casteism..Say no caste and no community..All are hindu who live in hindustaan understood idiot people..

  12. Hindu (body) four community: brahmin (head) kshatriya (arm) vaishya (belly) shudra (feet) All these four community called as hindu. We all are parts of one body. Without each part our body is not complete. If we lost one part of our body then we become handicap. The human body is the entire structure of a human being. Human Body is considered so loving that God even wants to have it. Spiritual Yogis have found that after going through the 84 millions species this souls get the most dignified human body. So it is the last step to explore the God or to get the view of almighty father god. We know that the soul never dies it takes birth again and again just like as we take new clothes to wear the soul as it takes new body and it is an infinite process. But the body what we get in next birth depend on our karma that thas been cited in Gita by Lord Krishna to Arjuna. We all here to perform our duties. Our action makes our destiny and nothing else. The result is in the hand of supreme power. Karma is the seed of plant and if the seed is genuine it must be fruitful.

  13. Many a time, man has taken birth in high caste and low caste; but this does not make him great or lowHaving been born in high caste man thinks himself to be great and being born in low caste thinks himself to be low and pitiable; both of these states of mind are wrong because many times man has been born in high and low castes. Hence, one should not be proud of having been born in high caste and not feel low if born in low caste family.
    Greatness has nothing to do with high caste. Man becomes great because of his noble work, exemplary character and becomes loathsome because of his immorality and evil conduct. Thus, it is his conduct only that decides his greatness or lowliness. Who does not know that high family born Ravana, Kansa, Duryodhana and others are censurable; whereas Metarya muni, Harikeshi muni and others, though born in low family, are venerable.
    Then, what is the importance of high or low caste?

  14. We always talk about religion and castesim but in reality there is no any caste and religion. We all are same our blood are same.then why we believe in discrimination. God never created any caste they made simple human being..caste and community only created by stupid people who are mentally sick and had fear in their heart bcoz if they will not choose higher place for themselves then other people going to defeat them and going to put them down..bocz they don’t have believe on themselves and their own work..they have doubt own their capability..they always think negative we cnt do hard work if other person give their best then they must be achieve something better than them..by creating high and low community and even not asked to any people wh are coward they put themselves to higher community…bcoz they are coward and they want to protect themselves..

  15. Hindu religion devided into four community….but again I m saying to all stupid people who living in india..caste and community only created by mentally sick people and who follow them they have something problem in their mind..four community name are Brahmin, kshatriya,vaishya,shurda…and its surprising we all India dnt know the exactly meaning of these four words..let me explain to you..brahmin means not that who born in high class..koi janam se uncha or nicha nhi hota hai.brahmin mean jo god ko janta hai usko apne samne dekha ho jisse brahma ka pata ho or apne acche karam se jana jaye na ki apni jaat se..agr Brahmin hone pr insaan ke karam gandhe hai toh who insaan ashudh mana jata hai who pavitr aatma nhi hoti hai…Kshatriya ka matlb hota hai weh yodha jo mantvta ki raksha hetu apne angg angg ko katva de..samks praniyon ki raksha ke liye apni jaan kurbaan kr de or apne karam pr ghamand na dikhaye..Vaishya who hote hai jo apne kaam mein emaan dikhaye koi chori chakari na kre..apne kaam ko galat tareeqe se na kre..emaan ki kamai ko khaye haraam ki kamai ko haath na lagaye..Shudra ka matlb hota hai shudh or pavitr aatma….jis bande ke ander koi moh, maya, krodh or ahnkaar tak nhi hai jiska aacharn shudh ho or karam shudh ho wohi sacha shudra hai..jo apne karam par purn vishwaas rake…jiske karam ache nhi man mein ahnkaar hai who shudra nhi mana ja sakta hai..agr tum log shudra ko pero ka sathaan dete ko toh or unhe neecha mante ho toh kanjke pujna bandh kr do unke peron (feet) ko dohna unki puja krna bandh kr do..kisi devi devta ke mandir ja kr natmastak na ho or apne mata pita ke peron ko choo ke ashiwadh lena bandh kr do..

  16. Whenever someone’s ask you about your caste then your answer should be to them is:
    I am a Brahmin in knowledge
    I am kshatriya in valor
    I am vaishya in business
    I m shudra in service
    In the end I am just sanatam dharmi hindu and nothing else..Then say you proud to be a hindu..

  17. Inter caste marriage should be encourage..bcoz if people take this step then castesim and religion based discrimination should be stop itself..we all are human being..God never created any caste and religion..even God dnt has any caste and religion…did you know that God belong to which caste and religion..then keep shut your mouth about this stupid varan system and caste system okh.. And only you can make it good or bad this inter caste marriage. Depends upon how much importance u give to these meaningless and stupid values. And how much importance u give to other people who value these meaningless things. U have to see how much u urself r attached to other people opinions. And since u r asking for opinion, it means u r attached to these meaningless things.

  18. What steps can be taken to convince the people to accept the inter-caste marriages trend?
    It is the responsibility of the younger generation to make their elders realize that the rigid caste system is morbid and has a dark future ahead. The youngsters can take various steps on their part to demolish this system:
    • The girl or boy should be introduced as a friend to the family and be allowed to earn their love and respect
    • The qualities of the person you love should be highlighted in front of the family members
    • Try and learn the customs of each other’s caste. This will enable you to earn the love of the family members
    • Try and show your family members how this kind of systems are obstructing the progress of the nation

  19. Gone are the days when marriages were executed by parents; The times when a Punjabi marrying a Punjabi or a Bengali marrying a Bengali was the norm. Welcome to 2013 where inter-caste marriages are quickly becoming the season’s flavors and why shouldn’t they? Everyone knows that India is a diverse land that boasts of being a mother to different cultures. But what’s the point of having so many different cultures when people snarl at the very thought of their integration?
    There is something new to learn in different cultures and we, as Indians should feel proud of having such a strong and traditional backbone with us.
    But when some of these people get offended at the thought of their son/daughter marrying into a different caste, a sense of anger sweeps me.
    What is the problem in a South Indian marrying a Punjabi or vice-versa? Why do educated people talk like uneducated pigs when their family member steps out of his/her caste for marriage? Why do people have to be such haters?
    In my opinion, an inter caste marriage should be applauded by one and all as the amalgamation of different cultures will put an end to mindless racism and discrimination on the basis of caste in our exotic land. Wouldn’t you want your next generation to be more peace loving and more socially acceptable to different kinds of people in the world? So, are you ready to take the plunge and applaud inter-caste marriages?

  20. The brahmin community has been one of the dirty communities which has planned strategically to fool people in the name of god by generating the highest donations in the temple, doing business to fool and loot money in the name of puja, death, marriage, new home… For any occasion, there’s one puja. They charge very high prices and take away all the items after the puja. They have created prostitution in the name of devadasis. They suppress jobs and employment and welfare and equality are destroyed. they have destroyed the Indian medical system. They have killed Indian medical science like siddha vaidhyam and created ayurveda and carnatic music by destroying dravidian music. Even today they have the temples under their control. They say they don’t like untouchables, but they have always been sexually harassing low caste women.

    1. Cutie, don’t get a puja done then. Temples under control? The government controls most temples. Most of the harassment happens at the hands of the OBCs, take out data about brahmins committing harassment. Suppress jobs? Brahmins are one of the poorest communities in India with high levels of unemployment. So Cutie, please use your common sense and data before commenting. What is Dravidian music by the way? Taking recourse to regional identities to create divides is not something the brahmins did, ok well some of the losers did, the Dravidian movement was led by Brahmins. Your state today is ruled by an Amma who you guys worship and she is guess what, a Brahmin! 🙂

  21. We always talk about religion and castesim but in reality there is no any caste and religion. We all are same our blood are same.then why we believe in discrimination. God never created any caste they made simple human being.. Mentally sick people take the path of fundamentalism and spread casteism and communism. They suffer from inferiority complex and divide the society into “we” and “they”. They (belonging either to higher or lower ranked caste) have a fear in their heart that if they do not get a higher place for themselves in society, “other” people are going to exploit them and going to put them down.They don’t have believe on themselves and their own work. They have doubt own their capability. People with negative mindset suffer from inferiority complex and divide society into compartments like higher castes or lower castes.and can’t tolerate “others” progress or well-being. They cannot work hard and cannot tolerate anybody else’s achievements. These are the people with negative mindset who believe in ranking some belonging to higher castes and/or some to lower castes. They are coward and they are unable to protect themselves…

  22. insaan apne guno se upar uthta hai unche staan pr baith jane se nhi..caste n community created by mad people jin logo ko khud ko dusro se shreshth batane ke liye apne aapko ek high community mein rakh liya or dusro ko niche dikhane ke liye lower community mein rakh diya gaya bina unki marzi jane…i want to tell to all mad hindu people community ye decide nhi kregi ki tum kitne high or low ho…tumhare karam tumhe upar or niche girane wale hai…arre god ne insaan banaye hai caste nhi…n listen aisa hota toh christan or muslim mein bhi aise hi char community hoti bt tum log unko as all christan n as all muslim hi bolte ho…tum katar hindu logo ne khudh hi apne bando ko khudh se alag kr diya…char community hai hindu mein let me explain it to very well ok…hindu ko as a body lo us body ke char hisse tum stupid logo ne char hiso mein describe kiya ..1st brahmin jisko sir ka staan diya or kshatriye ko bhuja or vaishya ko pait ka or tum sabki favorite community shudr jisko per ka staan diya….ab batao agr per kat doge toh kya apni manzil ki taraf tunde ho ke jayoge tum sb apahiz ho yaad rkhna..agr hmari body ka ek part bhi kat jaye toh hum apahiz kehlate hai toh tum stupid hindu khudh apahiz ban chuke ho..ek bade se bada brahmin or devta bhi jb apne maa baap ntmastak hone ke liye sir jhukata hai toh woh uske charno ko choone ke liye toh akal ke andho sabse uncha staan toh shudr log prapt kr chuke hai…tum nhi tum gire huye ghatiya egoist bande ho jisko god bhi narak mein dalega….i m also brahmin bt i hate castsim okh….say no to community n no caste den reservation should be stop itself…abroad isliye develop kr raha hai bcs unka mind indian ghatiya logo ki tarah nhi hai especially katar hindu..1000 saal baadh bhi india mein koi development nhi hogi yeh aise hi high low ke liye hi mrte rahenge…

  23. All human-beings are equal in the eyes of God.The human-beings have only created the caste system.There are good and bad people in both high caste as well as low caste.
    Ultimately,what matters to God is, whether one is a good person or striving to become one, or not.

  24. One who thinks himself to be of a high caste is actually low. While one who thinks himself/herself to be of low caste is said to be high caste.As per the scriptures, people are known by their nature and the quality of work they perform..

  25. You all should be ashamed of yourself..one side you said India is a secularism country and the other side you do believe in discrimination by saying oh please do something for reservation and stop that caste based reservation..WHY? tell me? By saying all that stupid things you all Indian oh sorry katar Hindu proved it you all still believe in castesim and living in high or low thinking..if you all katar Hindu never divided society in caste line then reservation will never ever be there at all..if this system is still going on just because of your madness and your discrimination..God made this world and made simple human being. God never made any caste and any religion.Do you know God belong to which caste and religion..No then stop believing castesim okh..people become high and low by their nature and character..so you all proved it who all are you?

  26. i just believe in humanity not this stupid castesim…i want to tell all lower caste people if upper caste against of reservation n some day it ll b stop then u dont need to follow this stupid religion n caste okh…whenever someone ask about ur caste just tell them u r hindu n proudly say u r also brahmin okh….castesim aise hi khatam hogi sabhi brahmin hi bano….or itne intelligent bano or smart bano ki brahmino ko bhi sharm mehsoos ho khudh par….castesim aise hi khatam hogi…jis community ko baar baar lower bola ja raha hai dalit bola ja raha agr wohi community nhi rahi tb kisko bolenge tb number lagega…kshtriya or vaishya ka…tb pata chalega lower hona kya hota hai..jb reservation nhi toh kya bataoge kya caste hai proudly bolo hum brahmin hai..samjhe..hum hindu hai

  27. Whole world think that India has many castes which are main reason of discrimination of people but its very very big misconception of caste system spread around the world to defame culture of India because it was the biggest systematically designed system for people from thousands of years. Now let me tell you what is meaning of varna and caste system in India and how its was started. In Ancient India there were two great saints, one was saint Bhrigu and other was saint Bhardwaj. They met to discuss how to structure a stable society for human being to live proper life, First they recognized the four sources which are:
    1. Knowledge 2. Weapons 3. Wealth 4. Land
    They decided to make system where nobody has more than one of that. These should not be in one hand, not even two should be in one hand. So those who has knowledge will not have wealth, will not have weapons and will not have lands. Those who will have weapons will rule the country but they will not make policy. They need to go to people having knowledge to seek their permission and advice. Those who are having wealth, their social status will be decided by the how much philanthropy they do not by their wealth. Those who has lands have to produce for the society. In fact none of these four category or “varna” was based on by birth.

  28. “Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world…would do this, it would change the earth.”

  29. this is my 3rd comment. Now as much as I like to read your rants on India (it makes me feel special knowing you dedicate so much time to my country!) I think you are misled.
    I am a brahmin who is aware of caste, but all the other brahmins who are brought up 2nd generation are blind to it…. that is the first thing you should know. I also know one other indian living in india who is blind to caste. go on yahoo and you will find more cases where most just don’t seem to care. 2nd generation indians are VERY liberal. many “hate articles” on narendra modi are published by indian liberals. I feel bad for them when you describe them like this. do you know 85% of indians voted for obama in 2008?
    in india, very few states take caste seriously anymore. those would be the most backward states such as uttar pradesh and bihar. yes it exists in every other state, but there is no discrimination like you think. in fact there are reservations to get low castes in power. this narendra modi you hate so much is a backward caste himself, risen to power from a poor teamaker. that is why people vote for him. he symbolizes the essence of capitalism, what man is capable of, and how india too can rise from poor teamaker to successful businessman. and for the record, have you seen what he has done to gujurat? It’s beautiful
    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo/19635144.cms
    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnZGeBV5ZvfSyy41mVgk-ojFWlTiMk3AfMKeyOG4DmOZvoUL_ukmbjL8_4
    Finally, it is in the interest of caste to preserve racial types. that is all it is useful for and the only reason for it to continue. as you know, india is one of the most diverse and multicultural nations on earth. in order for such diversity to exist like this, it needs to be preserved. if discrimination can be avoided (which it is nowadays), then this caste system in its equality form is BENEFICIAL and GOOD in promoting diversity in india, with separate ethnic groups and so many languages. very cool!

  30. If India wants to succeed, they must rid themselves of Hinduism, Islam, Sikkhism and Christianity and work towards embracing one of their richest philosophies, Buddhism. Buddhism will liberate the low caste and awaken the Hindus who are too narcissistic and egotistic. I was born in an Orthodox Christian family, but later moved towards Buddhism. Also, Buddhism is what helped India become friends with the rest of Asia, whereas Hinduism worked towards dividing their Asian relations. Dota, Robert Lindsay and anyone else, do you guys agree with me or disagree?
    Thank you

    1. Idiot, take the history bit out of your name first. Hinduism travelled to lands in South East Asia much before Buddhism. Bali is Hindu, the Japanese worship Saraswati, Laxmi and Agni, there is a Goma or Homa temple in Tokyo. Japanese temples have a beej mantra and recite sanskrit mantras. Thailand, Cambodia have Hindu temple complexes. I could go on and on. Just brush up your history before you comment and expect Lindsay to save your ass.

  31. All Hindu communities in the country follow the varnashram system of Aryans and have divided the society in four castes – Kshatryas, Brahmins, Vaishyas and Shudras. Sindhis do not have such division in their society. They never followed a rigid caste system. That is why Sindhis are considered to be only businessmen. All members of the society inter-mingle with one another without any consideration of four castes of Aryans. There are no untouchables in Sindhis…..these religion and caste set up by mad and stupid people to control others not by god…who are still mentally sick they are following this castesim blindly..i must say be like all sindhi…tum hindu logo se toh yeh sindhi soh guna ache or intelligent hai..jo jante hai society ko ek kar ke kaise rakhna hai..

  32. Who divided society in caste line……only stupid and mentally sick hindu..first change your thinking that all people as a human being so the system ll be change itself understood..be like sindhi religion, make one religion and killed the bloody varan system n caste system…you ll b more happiest person in this world if you all mad hindu change ur narrow minded thinking about these caste n class…Because “I believe in recognizing every human being as a human being–neither white, black, brown, or red; and when you are dealing with humanity as a family there’s no question of integration or intermarriage. It’s just one human being marrying another human being or one human being living around and with another human being.”

  33. You cannot put people in high and low rank the basis of religious belief and caste. But those people do this who has a problem in their mind.

  34. Im a so called upper case Hindu……I have no apprehensions in saying that Hindus (those born Upper castes) are scums of the earth. They sing hatred of Muslims and christians but never look at their own scum filled conscience ……they are brutes……they lack compassion and treat lower castes like shit and it feel it is their fk birthright to do it.
    I have no hesitation in saying that upper caste Hindus are the worst animals on earth……..worst lot of all humans.

  35. Personally that Hare Krishna movement, Saivism and Shaktism, though riddled in weird rituals is far more peaceful than Brahminism. I think the majority of Hindus practice Brahminism and caste and coloration. Ridding of Brahminism is the only way to succeed india! Haven’t you noticed Brahminism and Capitalism go hand in hand?

  36. God doesn’t need Brahmin priest, god isn’t so narrow minded. god accept everyone. actually Brahmin priest needs god to make money.

  37. Always remember one thing in ur life when u abuse lower caste by saying dalit n chamaar then u abusing yourself n ur own religion..bcoz if u accepted that hindu religion is one n these religion has four community like:brahmin,kshatriya,vaishya,shudra.shudra means pure (pure from soul n heart)..then let me remind u fourth community also come under hindu religion they are also hindu to whom u abuse as dalit n chamaar…so you are not abusing them but abusing yourself n your own religion too..

  38. There are very low type of persons in high caste & very high rare people in low caste. In India low caste attract more benefits from Govt. for votes & reservation in jobs whatever his eligibility, the same is for high caste but just opposite way. The low caste want to be low caste & higher caste like to become declared as low caste because of the benefits.

  39. The caste system was never intended as a rigid restriction by birth. Discrimination by birth is always wrong. If someone shows the abilities and inclinations for a profession they should not be barred. The varnas are a useful model of the perfection of society, but no more.
    I believe that Prasad has been dealt a double injustice. First, nobody who believes the basics of Hinduism should be denied access to the temple, regardless of caste. race or nationality. Secondly, as you say the varnas should be decided by a person’s qualities, abilities and disposition. It is clear to me that Prasad, and probably many more like him, is by nature one of the higher castes.

  40. Brahmin Hindus do make lots of trouble for everywhere else in Hindu majority societies, that’s the point. They’re socially rude, they break the law, and sometimes they commit very serious crime like gang rape of lower caste women – obviously the rapists are the worst of a ‘bad bunch’, but the point is they’d never commit these sort of sex attacks on Brahmin women as the police would jump like lightning to come down on it – only if there’s media do the police shuffle to investigate a low caste female victim.
    The bare majority of Brahmins have adequate manners, and keep their racism to themselves to the extent that they are not being society-pathological – about 25-40% are complete assholes who mess things up for the entire population around them. They have sufficient historical social and financial connections to have a place of privilege from whence to do this.
    Brahmins though aren’t worth the air-time or the effort in the modern world. If we could rise up and truly teach them a lesson we would, but that’s never going to happen in a Hindu majority society, so we just need to work hard, advance ourselves, and ignore these creeps.

  41. //I haven’t asked around, but I assume that almost all Punjabis in the US are high caste. High caste Indians ferociously defend caste and act like they will fight to the death to keep it. As I have never met any lower caste Punjabis or even Hindus, I do not know how lower castes feel about caste, whether they defend it the way the high castes do.//
    Yes, it is the upper caste elites who vociferously defend caste. These people go to places like america, UK, germany, see the racial unity there, and then, start doing these things in India within their caste though. But they forget that caste are not equivalent to races. Punjabis themselves don’t have any homogenous feature to even apply this. They are punjabis because they speak punjabi language.

    1. RAO
      That is pure rubbish Brahmin marry non-Brahmin Bania caste in North India.
      Nobody wants to marry black Nairs and Sythian-descended Sikhs do not want their daughter to have a black baby with a Tamil.
      You know what that is? That is racial, not caste based. North Indians are a hodgepodge of Iranian, Central Asian, Slavic etc. and Dravidian people are black.
      Within the North Indian spectrum it is not uncommon for a Bania caste to marry a Brahmin. They just won’t marry a South Indian Tamil because this is a different race.

  42. “Guts to put in my pic”
    …I don’t want anyone to know who I am on a public forum. Gen X (I’m 44) are not Gen Y attention whores with Social Media accounts who want the world to know who they are. I would not post a photograph online that violated my own personal privacy.
    The entire purpose of the internet is anonymity.
    Some posters here believe I am Jewish and others have accused me of being an Indian.
    I’m neither.

  43. RAO
    No my Dravidian Nair friend I am not a damn Bengali. I do not have a Bangali Gaur hair on my Gora body.
    If you were white and traveled India you would see how the North and South are founded racially-speaking.
    As for the British leaving India after World War II so they did. And Canada. And Malta. And Cyprus. And Jamaica.
    But Indians are all wrapped up in this 70 year old history and nobody in Britain cares a single whit, bro.
    It is so typically Gen Y to want to post your picture on a public internet forum. What the hell would I do that for? The last possible thing on earth I would want is for anyone here to know who I was. In real life I would deny it.
    But this is the same reason so many Gen Y women are getting into porn or making porn for free. You belong to a generation that has never had a life outside cyberspace on the internet. Your entire life is on social media and it is basically a Lonely Hearts Club.

  44. RAO
    My Nair Dravidian Southie Lulu Hypermarket Shopping friend I would not want you to know who I am. I doubt that few people would want others online to know who they are. I would cross the street to avoid you in real life.
    But I know who you are. Nair, from Kerala, resent Northerners, despise Bania caste, maybe worked a spell in Dubai.

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