No Attacking "Welfare Recipients" On This Site

Marek writes:

So let’s see: The slumdogs and other leftist racists are rising up from useful welfare recipient bread-and-circus voters to now demanding that the leftist white males give up their jobs and now you don’t like it.

You can’t attack “welfare recipients” on here. I live off ~$11,000 K/yr myself, and I have a number of White friends who use the “welfare system.” Some of these Whites have very high IQ’s (140-150), and many of them are college graduates. I know three with BA’s, and one who was a law student. A lot of them are older and used to live nice middle class lives in the suburbs, but they have fallen on hard times.
These Whites use the following programs:
Section 8 housing
Medicaid/CMSP (state version of Medicaid)
SSI disability
Social Security
Medicare
Low cost phone service
Food stamps
The free cell phone thing
Food banks
Student grants
Worker’s compensation

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  1. Righties/Conservatards and their views on social programs, the needy, and the so-called “nanny-state” don’t amount to a hill of warm dogshit in my estimation.

  2. A lot of people are bitching about the number of disability claims going up over the last 8 years. They seem to forget that we had two wars (one still ongoing), and that a lot of people come back from these conflicts minus a limb or a mind.
    They say, “If you can’t feed ’em then don’t breed ’em.” I say “If you can’t feed ’em then don’t bleed ’em.”

  3. The welfare state is unsustainable if there are irresponsible minority culture, and importing alien, especially from certain culture is an attack of welfare system. This is an especially smart move by elites. Welfare is workable on homogeneous society.
    In white and in yellow man culture, most would not want to see our neighbor suffer. We will tax ourselves to relief our poorer brothers. That is no problem. I would say white man cares about neighbor than yellow.
    For yellow man especially, very few of us would like to be idle. In our culture not working is shameful. Even working as road sweeper and janitor is more honorable than on dole. There is exception if one is retired or incapacitated by injury or diseases. I would say yellow man is has more work ethnic than white man.
    For many groups that is not the case. I have read about unemployed Sunni Muslim in Europe giving birth to lots of babies, do polygamy and apply welfare for their minor wives and army of babies. These armies of babies grew up in such family, do miserably in schools.
    The children of Sunni Muslim groups are too proud to stooge and do janitor jobs. They self victimize and self radicalize. They claim discriminated by white man even though it is white man tax payer for feed them milk and give them free education.
    They organize jihad cell to attack white man to take revenge. Although few of the acts really materialize, the sheer extend of Sunni muslim hatred against european society that feed them and offer them a life from their shit hole former motherland, is appalling.
    Sunni Muslim group in Europe often complain they do not have access to good schools due to white man discrimination. The reason is not. It is because Sunni Muslim often stay together and their poor neighborhood do not engender good school. Not possible to put them to posh neighborhood like Neilly sur Seine or Munich suburds.
    In comparison, the uneducated Vietnamese was imported by East Germany in big numbers and their 1st generation are poor and stooge and stay in poor neighborhood. Suddenly, their poor neighborhood school become good, and many yellow students ace the exams. Yellow no matter how poor hate welfare and they work. The 2nd generation yellow aces the exam and now are among the wealthier members of society.
    Today, those elites are publishing horrors about Sunni Muslim giving lots of babies and German over tax do not have babies. This is so call demographics invasion.
    Get real. The welfare state is destroy. I would say the elites are quite clever.

    1. I agree with you. You’re a little general on the “Sunni Muslim” bit – next time say Pakis or Moroccans or something. And Muslims cause far more problems in Europe than the states due to the states being far more restrictive on their immigration to those groups. Here, massive ethnic enclaves of Hispanics and Blacks are the biggest problems.
      Like you, I support welfare if the country is ethnically and culturally homogenous. I think Robert mentioned in an earlier post how communist countries were very tough on immigration. Right now the big demon on the American “Left” is its over pandering to hispanic groups in order to buy votes. Horrible.

      1. There is no left in USA. Democrats are phony left. The rich create a 2 party system and fool the people into thinking that they have democracy. USA Democratic Party is far righter than most of the rich party in Europe such as CDU/CSU…etc.
        Both Democrat and Republican are attacking welfare, although there are Democrats and Republican sect in the North East who are more left. In fact, Democrat seems more interested in pursuing cosmetic and deviant culture like gay rights, feminism…etc.
        USA today are given a bad choice. Either Republican who attack the world or Democrat who promote gay right and feminism.
        The true socialist and patriot will promote workers’ right and morality. No nation prosper on moral decay. With USA elites act in logstep destabilizing the country and encouraging moral decay, the future may be dim.
        The white man has produce great culture and the culture exchange between white man and China, although not entirely peaceful has sweep away many social evils in China. I hope all the best for white man. Certainly I do not want to see white man become a land of gay and depraved.

      2. Well duh. Remove all the Black Muslim prison “converts” here in the U.S, and those same “Sunni” Muslims become a high tax-bracket American success story. Pakis included. It’s called selective immigration. I’m sure if we only imported the elite of Mexican society, we’d think all Mexicans are doctors and scientists, to. Likewise, if we were too import the shit of China, or massive bulk Southeast Asian immigration to the U.S…We’d think Asians are complete dumb-asses.
        I do think the word “Muslim” is being thrown around as an ethnic/racial group way to much here, and everywhere else nowadays. Hell, the majority of Arabs in the U.S are Christians. Iranians are nonreligious, etc. Likewise the bulk of those “Muslim” immigrants here in the states are of South Asian origin. They are the cream of the educated crop. Separating the Hindu from the Muslim then becomes silly. They are all “South Asian” in origin, and have much more in common than less.

        1. I am separating Sunni with Shia. I am aware that Iranians are doing very well, never mind Iranian muslim or Christian.
          If you import uneducate Chinese, you may get mafia, But you will have a completely different 2nd generation and 3rd generation.
          All Singaporean Chinese and SE Asia are uneducated indentured workers. We are not even from the highest IQ Sinnic tribe from Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Shanghai. We are the above average IQ tribe from Fujian and Guangdong. Today, Singapore is one of the richest we are the highest IQ state in the world.

        2. Well Creaders, I would be the first to say that Iranian, or as you put it “Shia” immigration is highly selective as well. Iranians are coming from a nation that is run like a old Eastern European communist bloc model in many regards. Education is free if you can pass the test to get in. How would a Shia Persian speaker from Afghanistan and humble origins do in comparison to they’re Iranian counterparts on those same tests? Not well, I’d reckon, and they are for all intents a purposes the same people.
          I am not discounting a racial element to all this, as you a presenting. Only that is is EXTREMELY complex, and simplification can be questionable in results.

        3. This is how Germany Bertelsmann presented in one of the documentary about Muslim demographics invasion. They are now accusing Muslim importing “polygamy”. I do better than them. I watch the documentary carefully. I take note of the origin of those people guilty of polygamy, fathering illegitimate children. There are Kurd Syrian..etc. And I gathered the trouble maker of Europe in Clichy sous boi are North African Muslim.
          So I gather they are Sunni.
          I did better than Bertelsmann,

        4. Creader, I’d argue it has more to do with the fact that they are poor and even “war racked” than anything to do with their inherent religion or culture. Here in the U.S, we imported millions upon millions of poor Mexicans, and we are surprised when they can’t learn English and think it’s okay for a 40 year old man to fuck and marry a 12 year old girl?
          The bottom line is that they should not be allowed in, in the first place. Period. It’s that simple. A poor villager from Syria is not going to react to Northern European culture in the same manor as a college educated engineer in Assad’s inner circle.
          Trust me, I grew up in Long Beach/Orange County. I remember what the Vietnamese were like back then. Some were educated and “western”…Others use to take shits in the street when they first came, as they didn’t know how to use a toilet. That’s a fact.
          Now, will a Vietnamese kid in the U.S be more likely to go to college over a Mexican kid 9 out of 10 times? Probably. One culture values education. The other does not.
          Perhaps that is where you Sunni/Shia divide might have some credence. Perhaps. Maybe. Not sure, though.

        5. The 1st generation of non educated Middle eastern Muslim and non educated Sinitic people should be uncouth. They are non self-selected. You cannot compare these with the PHD or engineers silicon valley imported.
          What I am highlighting is the 2nd generation. I believe the yellow could have benefit from our cultural work ethnics. The 1st generation middle eastern muslim and yellow bring different problems. However, today, the Germany are alarmed about import of polygamy in their society and the army of children born within these polygamic culture.
          Is it true that their poor performance in school is due to discrimination by white man that deny that good school or is their lousy result self inflicted? That is a interesting question.

        6. Singapore is rich because the British built the place, not because the Chinese immigrants have decent IQ scores. The Chinese were merely workers and vehicles for the British to put down their designs on the piece of island and create their city state. Creaders has too way much good view on Chinese when that is just not reality and the case. The Chinese have absolutely destroyed places in Australia, Canada, part of the U.S through massive movement and immigration.
          Sure Indians are absolute shit, but then we can’t use them to deflect away the inherent chinkiness and danger in having large numbers of Chinkoids. The U.S passed the Chinese exclusion act for a reason and that can’t only be because of some sort of tribalism either.

        7. Singapore is rich because the British built the place, not because the Chinese immigrants have decent IQ scores. The Chinese were merely workers and vehicles for the British to put down their designs on the piece of island and create their city state. Creaders has too way much good view on Chinese when that is just not reality and the case. The Chinese have absolutely destroyed places in Australia, Canada, part of the U.S through massive movement and immigration.
          Sure Indians are absolute shit, but then we can’t use them to deflect away the inherent chinkiness and danger in having large numbers of Chinkoids. The U.S passed the Chinese exclusion act for a reason and that can’t only be because of some sort of tribalism either.

          Did British build China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and Vietname as well?
          The Chinese migration to western will moderate given the strong economy of China, Today,its the other way, you are seeing united nations in Chinese land like HK Singapore and Shanghai.
          Do you want to discriminate these imigrants?
          Our culture cannot be that bad given evidence of our high IQ, work ethnics and height of civilization buildings.

        8. lots of people likes japanese, haven’t you read this blog? the worst humans are hindu indians and african nigerians, many people here don’t like them

        9. i don’t want to do overredundant debate, with your knowlodge, you should know that Ainu features are not the same as caucasoid, anyways Hirohito looks pretty asian to me; you said that people ridiculized Ichigo’s hair ,not that they worshiped it, anyways do you know that the most popular manga in Japan is ONE PIECE by far, One Piece’s hero, have dark hair, Naruto and Bleach are the most popular in North america, they are pretty popular in Japan too,but very far from One Piece, and the japanese ideal beauty is mixed, 100% foreign look is weird to them, the word hafu (ハーフ) is used in Japanese to refer to somebody who is biracial, i.e. ethnically half Japanese, Fashionable images of the half-Japanese people have become prominent ,celebrity Becky (British/Japanese), AKB48 member Sayaka Akimoto (FILIPINO/Japanese), newscaster Christel Takigawa (French/Japanese), and models Kaela Kimura (British/Japanese), Anna Umemiya (American/Japanese) and Jessica Michibata (Argentine/Japanese), and in sports Indian national football team footballer Arata Izumi (Indian/Japanese)

    2. Bullshit. I lived in Germany. The Vietnamese are scum. Their children drug addicts. Worse than the locals.
      The Vietnamese(and others East Asians, mostly Vietnamese though) are lazy and live off the state. They are all “refugees” down to a Q. Even worse than the German youth in regards to work ethic. The Turks(read “Sunni” Muslims/Kurds) are the Mexicans of Germany. They do all the work. Landscaping, working in factories, and take care of the elderly…And their birthrate isn’t even high.
      My extended family owns a trucking company in Germany. They have 80 or so employees. They hire Germans because they have to by law, and it’s the “polite” thing to do. They prefer the Turks. If a Turk/Kurd is lazy, you fire them and they get deported. As such, none of them are “lazy.” You fire a German, and the government is breathing down your neck wanting to know why. No point in hiring Vietnamese…They never even bother to even apply. They are happy living off my families taxes, and being “refugees”…Even though the Kurds come from a place so war torn, modern Vietnam looks like paradise.
      In order to find those “lazy” Muslims as you put it, you have to go to either France or the Netherlands. In France, the very idea of immigration was a bad idea, even from former colonial holdings. Being a Chink in Paris is no better than being an Arab. If you do not speak, act and behave 100% French, forget every getting a government job. On the other hand, France is a state with heavy socialist leanings, so even if the French hate your guts, you will still have a roof over your head, food to eat and access to good medical care. Just no chance at upward mobility.
      That is not entirely a bad thing. I wish we in fact did that here in the States. Here in California, depending on which government agency you deal with, either Blacks, Vietnamese, or Hispanics run the show. If you aren’t a member of that specific group, good luck getting whatever services you seek…It’s racial member’s only club.
      I agree with your point when applied to the Netherlands, though, as well as the Nordic countries. They are much too soft on their “immigrants,” but that is universal. North and sub-Saharan Africans make the bulk of immigrants, hence visibility. Islam is irrelevant. I don’t believe for a second that if a few million Vietnamese, Cambodians or Thai showed up in Northern Europe, they’d behave or be treated much differently.
      If you want to see those pesky Arab “Muslims” working in the fields, just travel to Spain. Moroccans pick vegetables just like Mexicans in California’s Central Valley. The Spaniards a few years back tried to import Central Americans to do the work instead of North Africans, citing language and cultural similarities as the rational…No idea how that worked out for them. 😀
      Oh, and don’t get me started on the Paki’s in the U.K…They are a unique breed of asshole, and I’ve dealt with them personally. It’s the nature of coming from a fake country with a fake culture.

      1. Second generation Greek students were more likely to attend a Gymnasium (college preparatory school) than their ethnic German counterparts.The same was true for students belonging to the Chinese or the Jewish-Russian minority.
        No other ethnic group in Germany were as successful as the Vietnamese, 50% of whom attended a Gymnasium, and the Koreans, 70% of whom attended a Gymnasium.
        Educational attainment of Muslim students differed by ethnic group. While 50.2% of students from Iran attended either a Realschule or a Gymnasium, only 12.7% of Lebanese students attended one of those schools.
        The following tables use the German grading system. 1 is the best grade, and 6 is the worst. Former Yugoslavian students will be considered as one group in the following tables; however differences exists between different ethnic groups from former Yugoslavia when it come to educational attainment.
        From wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_achievement_among_different_groups_in_Germany
        The Viet in Germany are not self selected group but are poor uneducated laborer.
        The Muslim first generation generation know their place and are grateful. The problem of self-victimization is often the Sunni Muslim 2nd generation. You should not have problem in hiring 1st generation sunni muslim for janitor but their 2nd generation could be a issue,

        1. Bullshit. The Vietnamese in Germany are scumbags. I dealt with them. Fortunately their numbers are small, and we don’t have a shitty “Little Saigon” to ruin the place yet, just like they did in Orange County(Need drugs or a hooker? Go to Garden Grove! Get your dick sucked by a Nguyen! They cost 1/3 as much as a White girl, if you can stand the smell! Just don’t piss off the local Viet gangs, who are currently competing with the Mexicans to fill up county jail!) Attributing some kind of magical “yellow man’s” genetic gift to them is silly. Yet another reason Wikipedia is a joke
          I do say though, that the Russians are by far the worst scumbags you will meet in Duetschtland. When I was stationed in K-Town in the Army, the Russians where some of the worst Human Beings you would ever want to meet…Which brings me to a question for you? Why, in the old Soviet Union, where the more “Asiatic” peoples so much less successful than say their more Caucasian minority counterparts? A Mongol or Kazakh or Tatar, was a joke of a person in the old U.S.S.R. Same with Uzbeks and Turkmens…Yet, as completely hated as Armenians, Georgians, Azeris, Jews were, they in a way kind of ended up running the show. Islam by itself can’t be the issue here, since it appears to have been on both sides of the fence.
          Where is you “Yellow Man’s” magic in regards to the old U.S.S.R ?
          Even if we were to take what you say as true, then it only reinforces my argument that referring to “Muslims” as some kind of racial or cultural sphere is asinine. There is statically much to much variation within this group, rendering religion as a metric irrelevant…For example, shall we compare the Hui in China, with their “Uighur” cousins to the East on a scale of success? Both are Muslims? What about Filipinos and Mexicans? Both are Catholic?

        2. 2008 studies by German education experts show that Vietnamese children are among the highest performing pupils in Germany (50% gaining entry into Gymnasiums). News articles have drawn attention to how children of former guest-workers are among the highest performing pupils in East German schools. Vietnamese students in East Germany who grow up in poverty typically outperform their peers, such as the Turks and Italians, and even native Germans.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_Germany
          Hi Cyrus
          I cannot continue the discussion with you if you deny Vietnamese achievement. Also Turk achievement is among lowest in Germany.
          Its regrettable you run into bad vietnamese.

        3. Sorry Creader, but this is what I remember, right here:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_Germany#Employment
          It looks like the last twenty years, the Vietnamese managed to breed some well educated children, good for them. They also have a the advantage of small numbers, and a German society paranoid of being called “racist” in any way, shape or form due to WWII.
          But the VERY REAL issue is this: There is a CLEAR divide between the communist East German Vietnamese children invited from North Vietnam by the previous East German Communist government…And the capitalist refugees I had to deal with, who lived off the governments tit.
          That has to be is the most glaring detail here, and one that cannot be denied. The communists kids were/are more successful than those of socialist capitalism, at least in the case of the Vietnamese. It even relates to my earlier comparison of Iran to Afghanistan, interestingly enough.(Shia run Iran, basically Islamo-commie with free and mandatory education, as opposed to Sunni Afghanistan, basically run as an economy according to the ideals of a Muslim version of Pat Robertson’s and Ayn Rand’s love child)
          So, maybe you do have a strong here, but it does require some delving.

        4. I like Iranian. Dont get me wrong. I am aware of Iranian achievement as well as Shia did not run terror cell.
          One thing I think Iranian did not do that good is their resentment against Hazara, a Shia ally that could give them lots of leverage in Afghan.
          I have been to Iran, its a nice country.

        5. Well, I’m glad you’ve been to Iran. They won’t let me in without an escort.
          As for the Hazara, the only people I’ve heard mention their supposed “persecution” at the hands of anyone other than the Taliban, are by Asian-Americans with a real victim-identity complex.
          My family are not even ethnically “Persian.” They are Azeri-Turkmen, and with a strong “Asian” element to their physical appearance(Asian friends of my point it out all the time). I’ve never seen any racism in regard to that fact. Ever.
          In fact, I find the East Asian obsession with the Hazaras to be a little disturbing. Their is nothing terribly unusual about their physical appearance that part of their world. If anything, it’s their religion that get’s them in trouble.
          They are “sevener” Shia, in a world dominated by the Iranian “twelver” strain, and the Sunni Afghan Pashtuns, under the spell of idiotic Saudi Wahabism. The cause of most problems in the modern “Muslim” world.

        6. By the way, I do not understand why Iranian Azerbaijani (acronym to IA) want to support the Persian state. IA is dominant majority. And iranian policy anchored by IA is hostile to Azerbaijan and ally with Armenia.
          I found it puzzling.
          Also is Azerbaijan language being taught in Iran Azerbaijan?

        7. The Iranian government should invite all Bahais and Zorastrians whom they kicked out and who are now very educated, successful people world wide back to Iran and hand the governing and management of the country over to them.

        8. and their Jews? Don’t forget them.
          Most successful Persians I know are either Jewish or non-practicing Muslim (like, they read the Quran on funerals, that’s about it), but your idea that Baha’i/Zoroastrians are more successful than Shia Muslims due to their faith is a stupid assumption.

        9. Ishmael,
          “Most successful Persians I know are either Jewish or non-practicing Muslim (like, they read the Quran on funerals, that’s about it)”
          Regarding “non-practicing Muslim”. I got verbally attacked on here, I believe it was by Creaders IIRC, for stating that I grew up in a “culturally Muslim Arab-American family”. He said there was “no such thing” as a “culturally Muslim Arab”. The only choices are strictly observant Muslim Arab or a liar. On the contrary, that was the default type of Arab-American Muslim family in this country for a good several decades.
          “your idea that Baha’i/Zoroastrians are more successful than Shia Muslims due to their faith is a stupid assumption.”
          Where did I state it was due to their faith? That’s an assumption made by you.

        10. I just didn’t like the way you framed the exodus Bahais and Zorastarians as the reason Iran is doing so poor now. It would be more fair to generalize it a bit and say successful Persian emigrates, who were largely Muslim. We both know the technical elite (largely Muslim) left Persia following the revolution. However, if we were talking about Lebanon and their exodus of Christians, I wouldn’t argue about how the expulsion of a said religion ruined their economy.
          As for the non practicing Muslim bit, I got no problem with the term. I’m just saying they’re about as religious to their faith as the average New Englander or average Swede to Christianity. Pretty much atheist, but they wouldn’t admit to it.
          I get your main message though, and that’s the cultural and economic poison of theocracy. It baffles me how robust that system is after all these decades. It’s particularly sad in Turkey now, which went downhill every decade after Ataturk’s death.

        11. Creader Wrote:
          By the way, I do not understand why Iranian Azerbaijani (acronym to IA) want to support the Persian state. IA is dominant majority. And iranian policy anchored by IA is hostile to Azerbaijan and ally with Armenia.
          I found it puzzling.
          Also is Azerbaijan language being taught in Iran Azerbaijan?

          Why not? Nobody is really ethnically “Persian” anymore. Everyone is something else. It’s an overlying culture, spread out of nearly a dozen modern countries, depending on how you count it. Azeris have the exact same culture as anyone in else in Iran, or the rest of Central Asia, and even parts of the Caucasus. That is something no outsider seems to “get,” or has a real problem comprehending. An Uzbek may technically speak a dialect of “Turkish” for instance, but culturally they have far more in common with an Iranian, than anyone in modern Istanbul.
          “Many times I have emphasized that the present peoples of Central Asia, whether Iranian or Turkic speaking, have one culture, one religion, one set of social values and traditions with only language separating them.” – Richard Nelson Frye
          Arabs and Indians especially have a real problem with this…Even more so than Americans.
          In fact, the Sunni/Shia divide in Iran and Central Asia you speak of is more superficial than one might guess, since the overlying culture is far more ancient than these rather recent religions. If anything, the modern Sunni/Shia divide and related violence in the Arab world could almost be painted in some sort of Arab/Persian hatred to an extent, since that is perhaps where a lot of the hatred in the modern Arab world seems directed at, strange as it seems.
          As for Azeri being taught in Iran, it is to my understanding. I won’t say that there isn’t a degree of Persian speaker chauvinism, though. I’ve seen it myself. Ironically, if the current son of a bitch mullah regime had it’s way, everyone would be speaking Arabic. That should tell you who’s running the country right now. Arab cock-loving traitors…
          Arab American Vedantist & Idol Worshipper Wrote:
          The Iranian government should invite all Bahais and Zorastrians whom they kicked out and who are now very educated, successful people world wide back to Iran and hand the governing and management of the country over to them.
          Why? Bahais are seen as traitors, following a man who was a British intelligence agent. Nobody likes Bahais in Iran, and never will(I have Bahais in my family, by the way). As for Zoroastrians…Under the hood, we all are still Zoroastrians. We celebrate Zoroastrian holidays still. Just not in a religious sense. It never really went away. The Zoroastrian priests just switched turbans and became Shia clerics.
          It’s our dirty little secrete… 😉
          Ishmael Wrote:
          and their Jews? Don’t forget them.
          Most successful Persians I know are either Jewish or non-practicing Muslim (like, they read the Quran on funerals, that’s about it), but your idea that Baha’i/Zoroastrians are more successful than Shia Muslims due to their faith is a stupid assumption.

          Forget the Jews? How could I? I’m a Marx Brothers, Mel Brooks, Don Rickles and about twenty other Jewish comedians fan.
          As for Persian Jews, here in LA, they are a smart and classy bunch, and some very rich ones are helping to restore downtown to it’s former glory. My hat is off to them. They actually do more to keep “Persian culture” alive than anyone else. They’re religion may be Judaism, but they are more “Persian” than most non-Jewish Persians I know.
          Once again, the stupid fucking mullahs chased some really smart people away, in the name of helping Arabs…Pisses me off to no end. If they want to be Arabs so badly…Perhaps they should move to Arabia, and leave the civilized world alone.

        12. Arab American Indian Dude Wrote
          Regarding “non-practicing Muslim”. I got verbally attacked on here, I believe it was by Creaders IIRC, for stating that I grew up in a “culturally Muslim Arab-American family”. He said there was “no such thing” as a “culturally Muslim Arab”. The only choices are strictly observant Muslim Arab or a liar. On the contrary, that was the default type of Arab-American Muslim family in this country for a good several decades.
          I said that. It is because Pakistanis in the U.K coined the term. After all…What is a Pakistani without diehard Islam? A confused Indian with no culture.
          Arabs are Arabs. Period. You put a bunch of Muslims and Christian Arabs in a room, of any flavor, and they all fit together like a bunch of happy campers. An Arab who in no longer a Muslim, or just not practicing, is very much still an Arab. That IS their culture. One cannot stop being an Arab, anymore than one can stop being Hispanic. It’s part of who they are.

        13. Cyrus,
          “I said that. It is because Pakistanis in the U.K coined the term. After all…What is a Pakistani without diehard Islam? A confused Indian with no culture.”
          They may have coined the term “culturally Muslim” in their neck of the woods, but my family has been using that term right here in the good ‘ol USA for several decades now.
          “Arabs are Arabs. Period.”
          Have I said otherwise?
          “You put a bunch of Muslims and Christian Arabs in a room, of any flavor, and they all fit together like a bunch of happy campers.”
          Several of my family members married Arab Christians. (who happen to be “culturally Christian” as well).
          “An Arab who in no longer a Muslim, or just not practicing, is very much still an Arab.That IS their culture.”
          Again, I don’t know what you’re on about since I only specified “culturally Muslim” so that readers here could grok my religious background or family culture. I never said anything like “I’m ethnically Arab but I don’t identify with being Arab”. Rather it was, “my family’s religious culture was Muslim, but we were not strict and I have since rejected it altogether”.
          “One cannot stop being an Arab, anymore than one can stop being Hispanic. It’s part of who they are.”
          Um, HELLO! My moniker is “ARAB-AMERICAN Vedantist and Idol Worshipper” for a reason.
          Why would anyone want to “stop being an Arab”? We are amongst the best looking people of all time!

        14. “Many times I have emphasized that the present peoples of Central Asia, whether Iranian or Turkic speaking, have one culture, one religion, one set of social values and traditions with only language separating them.” – Richard Nelson Frye
          What would that religion be, I wonder?
          The Bhagavat Purana and other epics like Mahabharat and others speaks of that region being under the rulership of Maharaja Bharat for a signficant period of ancient history. Yagyas were big at that time so I would assume the religious culture dealt with Agni and Surya a lot.

        15. Indian American Vedantist & Idol Worshipper
          “Many times I have emphasized that the present peoples of Central Asia, whether Iranian or Turkic speaking, have one culture, one religion, one set of social values and traditions with only language separating them.” – Richard Nelson Frye
          What would that religion be, I wonder?

          Sufism.
          The Bhagavat Purana and other epics like Mahabharat and others speaks of that region being under the rulership of Maharaja Bharat for a signficant period of ancient history. Yagyas were big at that time so I would assume the religious culture dealt with Agni and Surya a lot.
          Yah, Hinduvata freaks love to rant about how Afghanistan, Iran and Central Asia supposedly belonged to them at one point…Like we’re supposed to believe a bunch of effeminate Indian faggots could conquer the place…BAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
          You guys want the it so bad? Come get some! 😀

        16. The books described far back in ancient history and pre-history so it would have been before the HPP ever existed. Don’t know how accurate it is, but it is there in the old Sanskrit.
          Sufism, as far as I know was created along side Islam, not before. So that’s pretty recent.
          Unless you are saying Sufism pre-dates Islam, in which case I’d be interested in hearing about that.
          Here’s some white Americans singing Sufi qawwali in Pakistan;
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1L9KaREZlk

        17. Indian American Vedantist & Idol Worshipper
          The books described far back in ancient history and pre-history so it would have been before the HPP ever existed. Don’t know how accurate it is, but it is there in the old Sanskrit.
          What’s up you Hindu-Indians and making up history? Is it like your national pastime or something?
          Sufism, as far as I know was created along side Islam, not before. So that’s pretty recent.
          Sufism and Islam have a sketchy relationship, to say the least. One needn’t be a Moslem to practice Sufism in many circles.
          Unless you are saying Sufism pre-dates Islam, in which case I’d be interested in hearing about that.
          No, but Zoroastrianism does. By a few millennium. Zoroastrianism is still the underlying culture of that part of the world, and it’s holidays are still the most important, much to the chagrin of Islamic cock-sucking fanatics.
          Shia, Sunni…Who really gives a shit when all is said and done.

        18. Zorastrian Parsees do well in India. Don’t understand why they were kicked out of Iran. Same with Bahais. Everyone should have a right to believe in whatever they want, especially since god cannot be proven or disproven, we are all basically either believing in the stories our parents told us or in stories that make us feel good. And that’s fine. Why should one unproven story take precedent over others? Who cares what others believe as long as it doesn’t hurt you? I hope Iran can get back on track again.
          “Sufism and Islam have a sketchy relationship, to say the least. One needn’t be a Moslem to practice Sufism in many circles.”
          I know. A few of my disciples self-identify as Sufi. Its a growing spiritual niche here in the US.
          Here’s a video trailer of the Sufi Festival
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmj7bZvh_M

        19. That’s a good point about the numbers issue that he brings up, however lets be honest, are school performance and IQ tests really a good measure of true ingenuity and intelligence? No
          You can have a school system where everything is rote memorization, and so mundane, cyclical that it could just be a outdated drilling day care system, and still have some students “prepare well”. This doesn’t mean that chinkoids, are really that smart or an “asset” to the society, rather they know how to bullshit the system or take extra classes on the sidelines to do good on “standardized tests”. This is hardly a true measure of someone’s worth or intellectual capabilities. But really in the end of the day, those kids really don’t “CREATE THINGS”, or come up with new concepts and ideas. They are just there to conveniently fill up spots and attempt to take jobs/fill niches.
          It’s a good thing to know that these Chinkoids have to go to CAUCASIAN societies to get there education apparatus in order. After all, some of the greatest thinkers and philosophers in Europe’s renaissance and early ages, were living in a time where there weren’t even standard education systems and still managed to make groundbreaking discoveries and innovations that changed the world. These Asians will never ever do something like that no matter how “good students” they are or how “good” they do in schools”. Because that is what they are at the end of the day, good test takers and “good students”.

        20. but they have come up with original plots and stories (the japanese), don’t ignore the money and influence that the entertainment industry has in the world, not everything is about creating mechanical inventions, the most sucessful animes and mangas are big franchises around the world, titles such as DRAGON BALL, ONE PIECE, NARUTO, BLEACH, FAIRY TAIL or DEATH NOTE, ah ,and the video game industry of Japan is also prolific with things like NINTENDO, PLAYSTATION, MARIO BROS or RESIDENT EVIL

      2. Cyrus, what is the relationship between Tajiks and Persians. What are the differences between the two ethnically. Aren’t Pashtuns descended from this same stock thousands of years ago too? The ethnic groups of these areas are fascinating, but very confusing. I typically lump them into either Turks or Persian Caucasoid with many many sub-branches.

        1. Not much at. They have an archaic accent when they talk amongst themselves, are Sunni Muslim but not very religious, at least the ones from Tajikistan, and can read Persian in Cyrillic script(the ones in Tajikistan again). Afghan Tajiks are just Persians with a funny accent, and Sunni Muslim for the most part. They are supposed to look more “Asian,” but I haven’t noticed it. The current president of Tajikistan in a diehard Persian nationalist, who supposedly helped put some ideas into Ahmadinejad’s head a few years back. These ideas were nationalistic in nature, and thus why he lost favor with the current “Islamic” regime.
          Same cuisine, culture, etc…I new a Tajik girl in High School. She was from the former USSR. Other than the fact that she could speak Russian, you’d never guess she was any different than your stereotypical Southern Californian “Eye-Rainian”…

        2. As for Pasthuns, they are supposedly descended from the Ancient Scythians…The average Pushtun is unaware of this fact though, because the average Pushtun is a fucking hillbilly retard.
          Once a Pushtun cleans himself and gets and education, he starts speaking Farsi with a Tehrani accent, and thus ceases to be a “Pashtun.” Until that happens, he is nothing more than an illiterate Islamic fanatic who licks Arabic ass for money and self-fulfillment, and names his kids Mohammed Mohammed, because there is such a shortage of first and last names in the world.
          As for the relations of these peoples, they’re all “Turko-Perisan” or “Turko-Iranian,” which I believe is the technical term. All those people stuck between Russia, India, China, Europe and the Arab world…Not Arab, not Asian, not European and not Indian.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turko-Iranian
          What a confusing place that reality creates, eh?

        3. Sorry, I don’t believe NWO crap.
          It’s a strange little religion, but I still respect the people that choose to follow that faith. There’s no hidden agenda.

  4. Having lots of Hispanic, blacks and Indians in USA, the welfare states would be chip off slowly. Today, the most welfare states is Massachusetts, and it is very white.
    The black is they are having too many kids out of wedlocks. Eventually the productive labor will be angry if they are made to pay.
    Canada is very white. So you still can have welfare. So is Europe.
    Nevertheless, the demographics invasion and changes, the socialism would not longer be sustainable, unless other racial groups can be brought up to a certain work ethic and moral standards,

    1. Spot on. Agreed! And yes, if a state like Mass. was a country, it would be comparable to Austria, Finland and Belgium.

  5. “Today, the most welfare states is Massachusetts, and it is very white.”
    You mean that Mass has the most people on welfare out of all the states?
    “Having lots of Hispanic, blacks and Indians in USA, the welfare states would be chip off slowly.”
    Blacks and Hispanics yes, Indians are in the top income and tax brackets so they can keep the welfare flowing for the rest of us.

    1. Indians don’t have those ethnic enclaves to the extent Mexicans or Blacks have it in the states. U.K is a better example.

      1. Right but in the UK Indians are also in the highest income and tax brackets.
        The dysfunctional, parasitical enclaves are predominated by Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims who are not integrating into the wider society and pulling their own weight.

        1. Those successful “Brahmins” are high caste to begin with in the U.K, and have the advantage of education and centuries of interaction with British culture. Though I do agree with you, though. The Pakis are scumbags. I know this firsthand from my time in London.

        2. Most of the Indians migrating out of India are not Brahmins.
          I also know plenty of Indians who arrived in the US poor and now they are middle class through sheer hard work and SAVING, which seems to be a lost art amongst a lot of people these days.
          Example; they will live 4 guys in a two bedroom apartment and everyone will work full time and over time at a gas station until they can save up to buy a gas station themselves. They will buy cheap cars, cheap clothes, cheap food, cheap beer.
          They will work, work, work and save, save, save until they can buy and invest; either a gas station, a convenience store, whatever. In this way, bit by bit, they will make it to middle class and even upper middle class America by 35.
          They tend not to give excuses like “Aspergers” “ADD” “OCD” etc.
          They suck up their problems and get ‘er done!

        3. Well my Arab now admittedly Indian friend, you do make a point. Unfortunately, their kids will be told they have things like ADD and Aspergers…Welcome to America.

        4. “Well my Arab now admittedly Indian friend”
          Where did I ever “admit” to being Indian? If I were Indian I would certainly state it. Nobody should be embarrassed about their ethnicity. Even if they don’t like it, they had no control over being born Irish, Dutch, Finnish, Prussian, Maori, Persian, or anything else.

    2. Import high caste Indians will impose a caste system, racism and slavery on the society. Forget about welfare. Importing low caste Indians will strain your welfare state and when low caste get rich, they “self-promote” themselves to high caste people and will try to impose caste system on the society. So importing Indians is an assault to welfare.
      Indians unlike white and yellow is selfish. Thats is the reason so many miserable things occur in India and no one bother. The more Indians in your society the more degenerate, and sooner or later, you pray you don get caste system. Forget about welfare.

      1. “Import high caste Indians will impose a caste system, racism and slavery on the society.”
        If you go to the upper middle class neighborhoods of New Jersey and California where Indian professionals lives, those neighborhoods are nice. The only trace of “caste” there is when parents try to arrange the marriages of their adult children to another Indian. Sometimes they agree to have their parents arrange their marriages and sometimes they don’t.

        1. I hope all the best for Indians and their 2nd generation can forgo all sorts of caste-ism and racism in alien land. Better learn the alien way as Hindic civilization offer no hope. I have little resources on ABCD but their 1st generation is clearly contemptible parasite.
          Those born in India has a lot of hatred against humanity.

  6. “I hope all the best for Indians and their 2nd generation can forgo all sorts of caste-ism and racism in alien land. ”
    They’re doing just fine. Most of the ones I know, even the old ones who were first generation, are not hung up about arranging marriages anymore. Of course they will if their kids or grand-kids want them to, usually the ones who don’t have any options in the dating world, but they are open to them choosing their own life partners as well.
    “Hindic civilization offer no hope”
    Hindu philosophy and mind-body-soul wisdom has offered me hope and health.

    1. “Hindu philosophy and mind-body-soul wisdom has offered me hope and health.”
      You gucking idiot is full of shit. India has one the lowest life expectancies in the world.
      Stop trying, India and Indians suck.

      1. There are good things in India.Without yoga I would be dead long time ago,it really helped me to find the true spirituality.But it´s not a cure for everything,and it´s not for everyone.There are two sides of everything,and the same goes for India as well.

  7. Hi Xera cool down. I am very careful in my description about Sunni Muslim problem in Europe. It is Germany now that are painting such view on Sunni Muslim polygamy problem with documentary on Bertelsmann. They are giving a larger blanket description than I do.
    At least the Shia are grateful to the European people who accommodate them. Every migrant in Europe except Sunni Muslim, like Europe. Sunni Muslim hates Europe and and ungrateful to those who give them free school, free food and free educating, and instead many wanted to destroy Europe building a caliphate. Although few really go ahead and bomb.
    The Sunni Muslim is a good tool to destroy not only welfare but democracy. Immagine one or two Sarin goes off in metro because those Jihad kids who feed on dole by white man tax payer. Recently there are reports in Turkey and Iraq where Sunni Muslim terrorist cell have caught with Sarin. They are using Sarin in Syria big time against Shia which I think its despicable,
    The white elites is going to take this opportunity to impose surveying, monitoring, data mining, abolition of habeus corpus…etc. A lot of democracy is already finish since 911 and more will be dead after Boston bombing.
    I like western society, and I am worried about this. If western cannot have democracy and provide the world a beacon, the rest of us will slowly sink into oppression.

  8. Hi Robert, I think democracy and welfare is abnormality, fragile and delicate but much embedded in western culture. It is a long tradition but always been attack by devious elites using all sorts of clever means.
    I have read Roman give free bread to citizen. Roman and Greece has some form of democracy.
    But such institution is so fragile that it look more like a spark in western civilization. The elites in Roman empire destroyed Tiberius Grachvs and that resulted to Julius Caesaer Roman Empire. After that the west sink further into dark age, feudalism and serfdom.
    The welfare state and democracy today, is in response due to Lenin, Stalin and Mao. To react to communism, the western elites emancipate their sheep and give them fairer share of labor.
    With communism gone, I predict so is democracy and socialism. The way forward is probably some sort oligarchy. I hope not.
    Even if that happen, I hope China would pick up democracy and human right principal of western culture before its destruction occurs.
    The destruction of democracy and socialism is no better than importing certain groups of people, strip mining the industries and ship jobs oversea. I have posted one of these video before. James Goldsmiths the financier has already warn everyone what western elites are doing. In the video below. James Goldsmith advocate against free trade.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQrz8F0dBI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZTzPmn-87w
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_hiEvTNV5k
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yonUgZ2Y6Qs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6KkF6aa_A

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