Alt Left: Are Blacks Closer to Apes Than Other Humans?

Justin writes:

Since Khoisans lie at the root of modern humanity, are they more closely related to apes than the races that followed? I’m serious. Africans have features like flatter faces and noses, flared nostrils, big lips, etc which make them look more like more like Mighty Joe Young than Paddy the Irishman.

You can pick any Black out of a crowd in America, strip ‘em of his clothes, and place him in a jungle and he’d look right at home. Just give him a spear and wish him good luck.

Whether or not Khoisanids are closer to apes than other races of humanity is not known.

Whether or not Blacks are closer to apes than other races of humanity is very controversial. There is a book out called Erectus Among Us by a virulent racist named Richard Fuerle that makes the case for this. His argument is that Blacks are actually a separate species, a vestigial Homo Erectus. As far as his Homo Erectus argument, the general agreement is that Blacks are Homo Sapiens sapiens just like all the rest of us. Fuerle’s argument that Blacks are Homo Erectus is completely specious.

I am uncertain of the evidence he presents that Blacks are more ape-like (he does present a lot of evidence for this case), as the studies he references are mostly very old from the early racist era of US history. It’s not an issue that is likely to be looked into soon in this era of political correctness.

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711 thoughts on “Alt Left: Are Blacks Closer to Apes Than Other Humans?”

  1. Meant to say “He has no compassion mocking the black man’s attempt at humanity AS effeminate and pussy 😆

    1. Seen it too much in my own hometown. Alpha male redneck cracker = “dickhead” 😆 Blacks? Only good to play football for their amusement.
      You think this is a joke? No, I’m DEAD SERIOUS.

  2. Another area where we have more Neanderthal DNA is parts of genetic codes that have to do with certain immune system functions, Sankararaman said. Again, scientists can’t say more than that these Neanderthal genes seem connected to certain diseases, such as type 2 diabetes and Crohn’s disease and lupus, but they are there.
    Tiskhoff and Akey said one of the most interesting parts in comparing human and Neanderthal genomes is where we don’t see any caveman influence. That, Tiskhoff said, is “what makes us uniquely human” and those regions of genetic code “you just can’t mess with.”
    One of those areas has been heavily connected to genes that determine speech and communication and there’s nothing Neanderthal there, Akey said. This fits with theories that lack of communication skills hurt Neanderthal and speech ability was a distinctly human advantage, he said.
    And the study in Nature found something that may help explain why the brutish and virile cavemen haven’t influenced humans much: They may have made babies, but the male hybrids of Neanderthals and humans weren’t very fertile. Scientists figured that out because the genes associated with the testicles in humans and the X chromosome were unusually empty of Neanderthal influence.
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/29/your-inner-neanderthal-fossil-bits-neanderthal-dna/
    Hmmmm, genes for certain deseases, lack of genes that facilitate communication, and no balls, (a little joke)
    no wonder they are extinct, you idiot white racist will also be extinct soon.

    1. I made the Neanderthal to love.
      His smiling nature pleased me.
      His ways were full of ease
      As he thought not of the morrow
      He loved The Lord in his simple way
      And enjoyed the days of his life the
      Lord had had given.
      He talked of his days
      And his plans among his brethren
      The snow Queen flew among them when she visited
      The great green expanse of Land
      Wherein they dwelt
      She had flown from her mighty seat of Majesty in Finland
      They shook with wonder.
      They dropped their spears and fell
      In adoration.
      Form that day they looked unceasingly at the heaven
      In wonder
      at the forever changed world.
      The Finnish Koran
      Chapter Five. The Visitation.
      So from this section of the Koran we learn that the Neanderthals had a rudimentary communication system and enough sense of wonderment as to start thinking religiously.
      And since there was so much interbreeding who can conclusively say what came from where.
      Read The Koran from Finland to learn the truth.

  3. Have you are anybody you know studied Ethomology, if not the word BLACK is originally used to identify the so called white people of Europe. And if you would like know who are the real WHITE PEOPLE, take a look in the Black’s Law dictionary 4th edtion. And I quote Apply to aliens being being free white person is of African nativity or descent.

    1. Now we know gorillas are not happy being compared to blacks, so I do not think this true.
      Gorillas will show a huge love for documentary film makers makers as will blacks. My mother used to be shocked when as a child the family were innocently watching some documentary about Africa and some naked tribal blacks would show up butt naked. In those days no nudity was allowed before nine PM, so that was solid rule; but for Africa documentary film makers, well,they flouted it much to the annoyance of the nation’s parents.
      Older people from the UK will know exactly what I am talking about.

  4. Breeding, burning, looting, stealing, killing, robbing, getting shot. That’s the negro life style. They believe they are impervious to justice, then riot when justice hits them over the head. Riots work in big cities where honest citizens have been stripped of the right to defend themselves. Go out to any-town-usa & try that shit & see what happens.

    1. sure,Ehud..you havent visited any african country like botswana,namibia, and tanzania, shit only happens where a white man is present….

    2. Google slavery and systematic oppression of black people in America and then think about why there is so much anger and poverty in the Black community. Better yet, TALK to any black person about their experience in America. Then again, maybe slavery/Jim Crow and the “negro lifestyle” you speak of aren’t related. Maybe the holocaust didn’t happen either.

      1. You are parroting an old liberal rhetoric, and apparently actually believe it, but sadly, there has never been more then a bit of a cause to think that. The mitochondria, the powerhouse of the cell, does seem to be traceable to the primate line in all of us, but that is a separate DNA from the nucleus. . .
        The nucleus or Y chromosome show a much different story. You would be wise to look into the new science, not debunked stuff. This book is a good start. https://archive.org/details/TheBiologyOfTheRaceProblem1962

  5. if its evolution,…blacks came from the black monkeys,…and whites from the proboscis monkeys,,..with all the genes similarity and behaviours

  6. Black People looks like a baboon baby. Baboons have a dog like muzzle. Kind of like how Black Women have pouty lips. They even have baboons in Arabia. Whereas French People do not accept Arabs to their country nowadays, but only Arabs would welcome baboons in their country.

  7. Well, I will appreciate an African looking like Apes even though they are never. But I will want everyone here to prove to me that modern researchers that prove all human races to be descendants of Africans are wrong. For if we admit this it will simply means we are all Apes or from a specie of Apes.

  8. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3b/3b8bd526a99bbb25ef56cdd7f3190ce19b97c99d12e8dd8cdc79cef0ff60996a.jpg
    Scientific Racism should never be taken seriously because it is biased research infected with a desire to prove a point w/o little actual creditable evidence. It’s pure conjecture at best. It’s not about it being politically correct or not. sigh I’m starting to become convinced there’s no hope in you people.
    Segregation doesn’t sound like a bad thing right about now since laws are more regulated than they were before and there is a semblance of equity. Many racial communities are segregated already any ways. I don’t want to raise my kids in a world where people think the way you do. It’s inhumane. Is being evil hereditary? Now that’s a study that should override political correctness. I’m truly curious as to result of which race is most likely to be malevolent.

    1. Excuse me? You are Black and you wish to segregate yourself away from my people? Well I cannot say I would necessarily oppose that. If you don’t like us, you’re welcome to live and mingle with your own kind.

    2. Well, start with which race makes the most peaceful countries, then look up which race overthrows them serially, then look up how the country is under New Management.
      Start with South Africa, compare under segregation to now, and look at Orania, the whites getting put on a Reservation by savages.
      Or what metrics do you take as “malevolence”?
      As to scientific racism, you forget, there’s also the “science” that tries to twist it so we’re all the same.

        1. Look Angela it is easy to move to an all white area.
          and
          lIve your white life as a white woman surrounded by whites.
          But you should realise it is white women with a their femenist project who back blacks, gays, transsexuals, Jews, muslims, Hindus, Buddhist or any other non white ideology/race. The technical name is intersectionality. It is class two of feminists studies. Class one is the patriarchy.
          You would be better off as a white woman trying to educate white women who will want to simply dismiss your views as internalised misogyny against your fellow afghan, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Somali and Nigerian women. But you know better right?
          Write to femenist gender studies departments in university and ask to speak on raising white racial consciousness among the white feminists students. As a white woman you will be warmly welcomed and given a platform.
          So my contention is that powerful femenists well versed in patriarchy theory and intersectionality theory such as Hilary Clinton etc are some of the prime movers for the negrofying and browning of America.
          You seem to think it is some brand of politics but white woman now into the third ideological phase of femenism with Hilary at the helm and flooding each and every university with their theories are in the forefront of this new America you fear so much.
          It these these white women who all the time who back this project to the hilt. This is where your true work as a white woman lies.
          No doubt you are aware of fading light and a few other white women posting on stormfront. What these white woman refuse to see is just how responsible white women are for the current state of America. They back it to the hilt.
          Do not believe me? Try taking your theories to any university campus, political party, media outlet and watch your fellow white women chew you out!

  9. racism at its finest, you people should be ashamed of your selves people are the same regardless of their color and race, there are extremly disturbed sick bastards like you in every race . fix yourselves , i’d rather die than think the way you do i seriously got sick to my stomach reading some of the things here,

  10. You people are ridiculous. Race is not real. It is a social construct invented by Europeans to justify oppression and violence and dominance. If differences in race ACTUALLY mattered, we would not be able to procreate. But we can. We are vastly more similar than we are different. We are all the same damn species. Get over yourselves. The more you speak to people outside of your comfort zone, the more you learn how similar you actually are. The more you learn, the more you understand. The more you understand, the less you hate. Racists are a dying breed. Natural selection is taking yall out!

  11. Projection, psychological term for when an individual or group creates an image or idea of another person or group been what they really are. They called Africans uncivilized in order to treat them uncivilized, with no proof of the claim even from hundreds of years of equal trade. They call African criminals in order to treat them criminal, crack disparity laws, fraudulent African gene=criminal scientific studies, police brutality on ordinary African civilians. They call the African stupid, in order to teach at the ‘integrated schools’ and give them stupid education at ‘failed schools’ which never existed before Brown vs Board or black migration to Europe or Canada. They call the African subhuman when scientific studies prove Africans are the only 100%, full blooded Homo Sapiens and everybody else is partially some subhuman species that was so inferior it died out, where are Neanderthals or the Peking Man, not on earth any more, this was done in order for white to enslave, abuse, violate and steal from Africans as they were ‘subhuman’. This is what projection is all about.
    White people have done this virulently in their history, particularly towards Africans, destroying African civilization during the New Imperialism age in the late 1800’s Scramble for Africa, constantly treating Afro Americans like pets, Liberals are the latest extension, won’t live in black neighborhoods, most segregated areas are Liberal, not just in America, check white flight in London, Paris, Marseilles ect. despite this they constantly speak for Africans and make decisions for the ‘what should we do with their failing schools’ (which coincidently they teach in at a higher rate than even African teachers), ‘how do we reduce crime rates’ (for neighborhoods they want to gentrify, don’t care about the rest), ‘Africans are homophobic, how to do we reduce their homophobia’, why not ask the Africans themselves, why not let them speak, because Liberals think they are extremely uncivilized, more so than even Conservatives, many Conservatives are bigoted but don’t believe that they should take away Africans right to talk for themselves, or govern their own affairs. They put Africans in America on welfare, put crack disparity laws knowing the US government (themselves) is moving the cocaine in African neighborhoods, they are the ones teaching in failed inner city schools since Brown vs Board, they are the ones who take funds and bank investment out of the inner city as they fled in the 1950’s and 60’s, they displace African Americans as they gentrify and they refuse to live around them, look how segregated L.A. and the Northeast are compared to Republican Texas or Florida, Liberals created these ghettos not rednecks, not ‘rebel flag wearers’, they are ones who in the 1920’s literally killed hundreds if not thousands of African for moving into Northern cities and created minimum wages and racist white only unions to block Africans from job access, but unlike the old segregationist whites, they are still have political and moral clout causing havoc. Whites have used Africans extensively as slaves but deny them any reparations, meanwhile they used the fall of African and enslavement of it descendants to propel themselves to the top of the world, ahead of East Asian civilization. All this in meanwhile they have paid, Guam, Japan, Native Americans, white Ashkenazi Jews and many dictatorships around the world. For some reason America has used it’s own money to rebuild Europe including the just fallen Nazi Germany (Marshall plan), gave equally 13 billion to rebuild ‘war enemies’ Japan and even taught the Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese and other Asians manufacturing, the basis of an industrialized economy but never taught not one African nation or funded their development of powerful non government private organisations. America even bankrolled Russia who took over the mantle fro the dead USSR but never for Africa, only bought land, took primary resources and refused to fund the infrastructure of such nations, no wonder bias China is getting more and more play as they do more infrastruce building and teach to Africans than Europeans. African immigrants send back to Africa more money than all Western Aid, so what is aid even for, funding wars, majority of American and European aid is not food or even economic but military, not just to African but every nations, they have refused to economically and politically stabilize African nations but have done for ‘enemies’ such as Russia, Vietnam and Japan. Creating the African and Africa we now see, projection at it’s finest.

  12. my observation of the negroe in USA has shown me after a lifetime in the south that blacks are by far inferior to any species of the simian family. Whether its the spider monkey or the baboon. Apes are much more evolved than negroes/niggers.

  13. I was at a county fair that had a display of caged (small) monkey’s. Then a large African American woman walked up, amongst all the white people standing there..and several monkey’s went NUTS. You do the math.

    1. Interesting. I wonder if A guy who was a hyper negro could mingle with these chimps if he had a big bag of nuts.
      A nut bearing negro could come come Into the cage. It would be interesting to film it. A long as he avoids sudden movements he could have a long period of conversation about life in the hood. He could just talk and talk and before long the monkeys could form a circle of interest. Once the nuts are gone he could do some nit picking among the chimps and bond further. As long as he does not make a pass at any female chimps he could win the confidence of the alpha male, or head chimp. Eventually These two alpha guys could go bowling together. White wimminz would be flock to the negro and his chimp. A white woman could team up with them and a tv series could ensue and about the ups and downs of a mismatched family in da hood.

  14. LOL, people still cant read…. “African Americans” are Negro… not Ham-mite. Remember, when GOD cursed people.. he made them Leprous (White as Snow,… Unclean). But changed from what? What were they before he Cursed them? Dummy’s… Let the Doctrine go and just read.
    Damn Esau is busy….. Black people never were a cave dwelling people (living exclusively). But the neanderthal, did… in the Caucasus Mountains.
    Do Black people carry the neanderthal gene? No…So who walked on all four…. Come on Edomites… You’re thought of as a learned people.. right?
    Academic Honesty…

  15. Genetic annihilation prevention is the only game you know. But we know, that “White” skin, Blue eyes and Blonde hair are genetic deficiencies. All of which are recessive phenotype easily removed by the slightest interaction with the more dominant “Black” phenotype. As smart, wealthy, armed and illusive as you think you are, one “Black” sperm and you are all going the way of the Dodo Bird. Hear me, We ARE awake now. We know the game now. We are lost as a people but we represent 8/9 of the people on Earth
    and YOU are 1/9th, people with deficient MELANIN. We WILL prevail. Not of our own power or might, but of the mighty YA (GOD) who has ordained it.
    That’s if the sun doesn’t get your weak asses first. Melanoma anyone?

  16. Don’t berate our simian cousins by comparing them with Blacks. How would you feel if I did that with your family??? Not cross…just saying!

  17. That’s funny! Whites have no lips , no ass, small shoulders, short legs, hairy , big heads and ears as an ape do.

    1. The world wouldn’t see White Bigfoot though. They’d make Nigfoot a celebrity or at least put him in a commercial with a White woman.

  18. Silly litte Edomites (white people). Off all the peoples on the Earth, why would God choose you to hate and not love? (Malachi 1:2-4) Oh yeah, look above. Cant wait for Christ to return and rid this planet of you. Enjoy it now boy, as the treasures of the Earth were given to you only to provoke his people to jealousy. Your day of captivity fast approaches. All praises to the most high Yah, God of the universe..

  19. What has happened is that early European humans bred with Neanderthals while early African humans bred with bonobos or whatever. Thus the major differences.

  20. Here’s a thought: race realists shouldn’t use the word “racist,” because it technically applies to all of us. Fuerle had an anti black bias, and his conclusions are unsupported, sure. But anybody willing to be honest about HBD is also a virulent “racist,” not in terms of the bias or vitriol, but in that we literally believe that some races are more capable than others at different tasks.
    And to address the question of whether blacks are closer to apes than we are, we can think of things in terms of cladistics. To use an extreme example: crocodiles are more closely related to birds than they are to lizards, but they are more similar to lizards than birds are to lizards.
    Just as crocodiles are the less derived extant members of the Archosaur, Khoisans are the less derived extant members of the Homo genus, and it would therefore accord that they likely had less changes like a fancy new Microcephalin gene to separate them from their apelike ancestors (ex. Homo naledi?).

  21. objectively looking at phenotype traits. Most minority groups in different countries in the world often get compared to monkeys because they differ from the majority of the population…and the next best thing is monkeys/apes….I call this the MINORITY EFFECT…only it is ironic when white people call blacks monkeys…
    “..many Americans subconsciously associate blacks with apes.” Go to another place in the world where there are economically marginalized and dehumanized minority, and duplicate this test and you will find the same thing!!!….Whether that majority is using other creatures as the insulting comparison (such as cockroach used by Hutus to describe Tutsis). …again, the minority effect at play here also.
    IN REALITY:
    1) Monkeys/apes come in pink/white to black skin…by species and age..so colour is out.
    2) Chimps/monkeys cannot compete in 100m, they are not good at using two legs, i.e., being upright…where do whites and blacks fall in this? 🙂
    3) Chimps & Monkeys have STRAIGHT HAIR (imagine if all white people had afro hair and blacks and all other primates and Africans had straight hair?!!) ….
    4) Chimps and monkey have thin lips!. Look at a monkey’s mouth…or chimps or…all of them have thin lips…trait mostly seen in whites.
    5) Chimps and monkeys have eyes close together, another trait common in white populations…google face picture of G.W Bush…lol.
    6) Need to go on? I think you get the point, what about about DNA research? Africans carry 0% of Neanderthal Ape DNA, and that is just the beginning.
    7) Don’t forget that white population represent a minute fraction of human genome diversity…it was a short period of ideological progression (European Renaissance), perfecting systems developed by other populations, combined with cynicism that they have massacred and replaced native populations around the world….
    9) Just watch a boxing match to see how overly inbred whites are, one jab and they start bleeding, weak skin and genetics from excess inbreeding…and more monkey like.
    SO HONESTLY WHO REALLY LOOKS LIKE A NON-HUMAN…THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 100% GENETICALLY HUMAN OR THE ONES WITH MORE PHENOTYPE SIMILARITY WITH MONKEYS AND ACTUALLY HAVE NON-HUMAN DNA FROM ANOTHER WILD APE?!! IMAGINE HOW YOU WILL HAVE FELT YOUR RACISM JUSTIFIED IF THIS WAS ACTUALLY REVERSED!! THINK ABOUT IT.

  22. All humans other than African have between 1.8% to 2.2% Neanderthal DNA. I have noticed that many blacks have different body hair, straight like chimpanzee fur more so than curly like other races. I never put that together to come to the conclusion that they may be a different species, but combined with their lack of verbal communitcive ability, as they, much like other apes have difficulties pronouncing or properly forming human words has opened my mind to the possibility that they may indeed be a different species of human as opposed to just a different race. I wouldn’t call them apes, per se, but this discussion is fascinating. Perhaps as time goes on and DNA sequencing becomes more advanced we will find that what we now think of as different races of humans are actually different sub species, like the difference between a cougar and a leopard. Both are panthers, but different species. We are also animals and are certainly not above the laws of nature. Thank you for the interesting perspective. I now wonder what species I am…

    1. How is it that their body hair is straighter than that of other races when nearly all others have straighter hair in comparison?
      Also, Apes can’t speak human words period. What you call “Human words” I think you mean Non-African Languages which many Blacks speak. People on their end also have trouble pronouncing languages of Blacks as well so exactly what does that prove?
      If you actually read about African Linguistic they do communicate verbally like other humans. I can definitely accept that it different from other people but it has language properties nonetheless.
      While they do have a general archaic features that make them appear to be distinct from other races, Australoids in the Eastern Hemisphere have it to a degree where they were thought to be closer to Africans but genetics shown them to be closer to Eurasians.

    2. I have noticed that many blacks have different body hair, straight like chimpanzee fur more so than curly like other races.
      That is actually the opposite. Blacks have curlier hair and body hair than member of other races. Btw, Black have less important body hair than Caucasoids.

  23. ” The p- and q-arm breakpoints of the inversions in PTR XVI and GGO XVI were found to occur at slightly different locations, consistent with their independent origin. Further, FISH studies of the homologous chromosomal regions in macaque and orangutan revealed that the region represented by HSA BAC RP11-696P19, which spans the inversion breakpoint on HSA 16q11-12, was derived from the ancestral primate chromosome homologous to HSA 1.” http://genome.cshlp.org/content/15/9/1232.short
    http://genome.cshlp.org/content/13/7/1619.short
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16140991
    http://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/80819
    http://truenewsusa.blogspot.nl/2014/06/blacks-africans-genetically-closer-to.html
    And if you know that africans are the early step in evolution http://www.genomica.uaslp.mx/Research/PhylogramColour.jpg
    And we all originate from apes https://kevishere.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/primate_family_tree.png
    You know africans are in fact closer to apes as is , it is very logical.

    1. While this may ring true, it should be kept in mind that this is in terms of relativity and context
      Technically this closer translates to Africans being closer to older versions humans who in turn are closer to the ancestors of us and modern apes.

  24. I am half Spanish half White. I was surprised when I saw a guy in Giant with 2 bottles of beer. looked almost the same as Gorillas. I have also seen a tall white old guy who looked like a Wolf with out hair. I know it’s scary. 🙂 I believe we are all human for sure. We understand and that’s the proof. No Matter what you do to raise a monkey they won’t be able to speak.

  25. All you people talking good about black Africans, just come to South Africa and/or Zimbabwe and see for yourself how much devil there is in these black beings. Just take a look at all the missionaries that gave their lives trying to make life better for them. Many of the missionaries adopted black beings just to be murdered and raped and butchered by the same beings when they’ve grown up. Come and look at the genocide that is happening in South Africa, blacks killing white. Statistics and most of all the truth does not lie.

    1. Misleading info. Blacks brought up by missionaries would more than likely be goody two shoes. It’s the ones brought up outside the church, in one parent homes etc.. that come out evil. Unfortunately the church cannot save all South African blacks from growing up wild, so you see the situation there.

      1. And you would know this…..how? From what I’ve read, while occasional breakthrough were made, most blacks under missionaries failed.

        1. OK, then what’s the point? (sarcasm) A lot of good endeavors in the world fail, that didn’t mean the intention wasn’t good. OK so they helped some, but the ones in which they never came into physical contact were not helped at all.

        2. “Misleading info. Blacks brought up by missionaries would more than likely be goody two shoes. It’s the ones brought up outside the church, in one parent homes etc.. that come out evil. Unfortunately the church cannot save all South African blacks from growing up wild, so you see the situation there.”
          My point is that you claimed that the “evil ones” were descendant of those without missionary contact, yet even in most missionary reports success was limited and I said nothing about the value of the intention itself.
          Second, you have really no idea how acculturation occurred in Africa do you?-“OK so they helped some, but the ones in which they never came into physical contact were not helped at all.”
          Most Africans of modern times ARE descendants of those who had some form of cultural replacement. Those who practice native religion are the minority. So you’re model alone in unrealistic. As for “never helped at all”, tell me, why do you think that was?
          In cases like that it would’ve been that the tribe didn’t WANT THEM and held resistance.

    1. The percentage estimate of neanderthal dna in Eurasians (Asians, Caucasoids, Australian Aborigines, Papuans, etc) has been revised, down from 1-4% to 1.5-2.1%.
      “In 2013, the same team of researchers revised the proportion to an estimated 1.5–2.1%”
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans#Genetics
      A few small African groups (mostly Pygmy and some Khoisan groups, but not so much other Africans—in which indeed levels are usually low to more or less nonexistent/nonexistant, as far as we know) have about 2% of their ancestry from an archaic group (possibly similar to Neanderthals).
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3174671/

      1. Jm8
        I’ve been investigating the matter of the Yoruba very recently of John Hawks Findings and I couldn’t make heads nor tales of it aside from Mechtoid admixture.
        I figured that since the Yoruba founded were from Ibadan they would have some admxiture from Fulani/Hausa explaining it but the Kikuyu were 7% eurasian and the Ibadan Yoruba would be less.
        How they came up with it I had no idea. As I said they were from Ibadan and not a place that had coastal people with signficant european DNA from trade.
        Looking at that link they don;t differ in African archaic level with the Luhya of Kenya.
        Any thought? BTW, I remember your point of MTDNA U being low but what about autosomal differences?
        Technically no eurasians carry such of Neanderthals yet they still vary.

        1. Also, here are belatedly some sources on Eurasian admixture in Nilo-Saharans (I think I had few-none included in my response post to you on it), As I thought, it is generally negligible/insdignificant.
          (Comment/links in the comments section of the post in second comment by the blogger, below)
          http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2016/05/mehris-are-fully-eurasian.html
          http://ethiohelix.blogspot.ae/2013/01/east-african-mtdna-variation-has.html
          http://ethiohelix.blogspot.ae/2015/06/sudan-mtdna.html
          http://ethiohelix.blogspot.ae/2013/02/sudan-ydna.html

      2. I’m not sure what you mean by coming from Ibadan. The city is relatively new, and in the south of Yorubaland rather than the North of it ( the proto-Yoruba more likely coming from more toward the Benue river)
        And the Fulani could not be a cause of putative early admixture since their presence only dates to about the early 19th century(if they added a bit of Eurasian dna at that time, it would likely be restricted to a few Northern Yoruba groups, and then likely be insignificantly-negligibly small—especially since it would likely be quickly be disbursed thereafter , since they did not conquer but only raided a few towns.)
        The Yoruba/proto-Yoruba as an ethno-linguistic cluster most likely date from a few millennia bc or so in the area (,from archaeological, and historical-linguistic evidence). Mechtoid admixture is not likely either. If uni-parental markers (mtdna like U or Ydna) are low, the autosomal fraction is likely to be about as low or even lower (and autosomal studies show this in the case of the Yoruba, showing an average admixture of .3% or less, in one measure .06%).
        http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-mota-mistake.html

      3. The cause (or a factor) could be a small fraction of archaic admixture with some Neanderthal affinity. It (of at least a fraction of it) could also be error. It would help to test/have data from a wider range of African populations to get a better perspective.

        1. “It (of at least a fraction of it—and the putative/proposed amount is extremely small). …”
          “…It would help to test/have data from a wider range of African populations to get a better perspective.”
          The anthromadness blogger (Awale)—I now notice—expresses a similar opinion in the “Mehris” link’s comments.

        2. edit:“…It would help to test/have data from a wider range of African populations (ancient samples would especially help) to get a better perspective.”

        3. In this case I’m going with error, there’s just no way based on current evidence to explain aside from archaic ancestry.
          However…the Iwo Eleru site could be a clue if anything. I t was described as being different from a type of hominid that would be 2% in pygmies based o geological placement yet could show up in different scores of admixture detection such as in Nigerians.
          http://in-africa.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Harvati-et-al-2011-Iwo-Eleru.pdf
          “Our analysis indicates that Iwo Eleru possesses neurocranial
          morphology intermediate in shape between archaic hominins
          (Neanderthals and Homo erectus) and modern humans. This
          morphology is outside the range of modern human variability in
          the PCA and CVA analyses, and is most similar to that shown by
          LPA individuals from Africa and the early anatomically modern
          specimens from Skhul and Qafzeh. Iwo Eleru is distinct from the
          recent African samples used here (although the range of recent
          modern human variation encompasses relatively low and elongated
          cranial shapes approaching this condition). Past work has suggested
          that neurocranial shape reflects population history relatively reliably
          among modern human populations [14,15]. Although we did not
          find unambiguous strong affinities between Iwo Eleru and the
          samples used here, its overall morphological similarities with early
          modern humans suggest a link to these early populations and
          possibly a late Middle-early Late Pleistocene chronology. Nonetheless,
          the archaeological setting, stratigraphy, previous radiocarbon
          [see 4] and our new U-series dating indicate a much younger,
          terminal Pleistocene age for this cranium. Such a late chronology for
          the Iwo Eleru cranium implies that the transition to anatomical
          modernity in Africa was more complicated than previously thought,
          with late survival of ‘‘archaic’’ features and possibly deep population
          substructure in Africa during this time.”
          This sounds a lot like the 13% average found in that Peter Frost Article.
          While described as Early modern, I’m in suspicion that this would still likely confound the data of Neanderthal Admixture in Yoruba.

        4. Actually, looking at the Paper the site of Iwo Eleru is actually incredibly CLOSE to Ibadan.
          The matter is likely closed at this point.

        5. I think Chris Stringer’s belief was/is that the early Iwo-Ileru specimen was (just) within the general modern range, but idiosyncratic enough to suggest some degree of hybridization/admixture.
          “I t was described as being different from a type of hominid that would be 2% in pygmies”
          I don’t think they have dna from it (or remains from the latter), so I would think it could be the same, or at least related (or maybe more likely, one having admixture from the other)
          “This sounds a lot like the 13% average found in that Peter Frost Article.”
          This figure seems unrealistically high even for Pygmies, or the possibly Pygmy-like populations that may have preceded (and were absorbed by) early Niger-Congo speakers in Southern Nigeria—but may not be too far off for these early indigenous groups. Frost claimed the figure for Sub-Saharans overall, which is even more unlikely (and frankly a bit outlandish, by the current evidence).
          The proto-Yoruba/West Benue Congo, it might be remembered, were not even the first Niger-Congo speaking group to settle South Nigeria. They were preceded by earlier branches(some of whose languages—or their relatives—may still be spoken in parts of the south east; e.g.: Ejagham, Ibibio, Ijaw, etc.), who would have been the ones to absorb earlier hunter gatherers.
          Pockets of Neanderthals survived in Europe relatively late as well (Gibralter in the 28,000’s) and left little genetic material in modern groups. There is also some evidence of archaic survival in Asia in to the mesolithic ieca 11,000 bc (will look for citation) in places that show little archaic dna influence (I believe a part of China).
          Of the hunter-gatherers and their ancestry: There is evidence (from archaeological tool industries like the Sangoan/Lupemban and Shum Laka in Cameroon) that the majority of the area (that is West and Central Africa) was probably modern human/mostly so, by the upper paleolithic (ca 20,000-30,000 bc, in some areas earlier), but perhaps with a few relict groups of others or hybrids remaining until then or later (such as into the mesolithic period of early Iwo Ileru, ca. 16-12,000 bc) .
          Also some have questioned that the Iwo Ileru specimen is archaic or hybrid (It could be. I am not entirely certain and am of course open to the idea that it is archaic/hybrid.) More than one specimen (since they only have one) or dna, would of course help in identifying its true affinity
          http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2011/09/claims-of-nigerian-late-archaic-human.html

        6. edit: “—but may not be too far off for these early indigenous groups—-ie the possible proto-Pygmy like peoples…. “

        7. Edit: “…by the upper paleolithic (ca 20,000-30,000 bc, in some areas of West and Central Africa perhaps significantly/much earlier in some areas of West and Central Africa—even earlier in parts of Southern and Eastern Africa, where modern human cultures date back to ca 200-170,000 bc)”

        8. I agree with your opinion of questioning the intensity of the detection of Early Modern DNA in Africans as well as the unlikelyhood of late surviving archaics in other parts of the Globe,
          What I meant was that I found it interesting how the craniometric studies found this specimen to be precisely the same type of hominid believed to have been absorbed in Sub Saharans. With that noted, due to the ambiguity of how to classify it, it is likely that a creature like this may’ve confounded the Neanderthal studies.

        9. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v517/n7534/full/nature13997.html#supplementary-information
          I’ve read this again and it appears that it does include support towards ancient admixture with Eurasian in the Yoruba….the problem is it doesn’t tell us exactly how high (I’ve missed something and you could check the link if anything can indicate the measure). In other words, they could’ve been reading those low yet present percentages found in Yoruba based on those Anthromadness results.
          This is different from Mota, in which It’s measures were based on the theory of a Neolithic invasion throughout Africa, whereas this goes with a slightly more ambiguous source (I suppose likely Mechtoids in mind since Neolithic proto berbers likely wouldn’t have given Neanderthal readings as high as the John Hawks study). Given a date of 7,500-10,000, Mechtoids theoretically would be going down into the Savannah.
          In this case it could be open that Iwo Eleru were mechtoids that adapted to SSA, yet the study that Peter Frost gave on that 13% (as you said it may not be that high) connects with the craniological studies on the fossils which doesn’t makes much sense to go with the Mechtoid classification (at least at present time).
          Any ideas?

        10. To Phil:
          Iwo Ileru has no Mechoid Affinities (there is no such evidence/basis for this.) They are quite unrelated
          If it (Iwo Ileru) is not a hybrid, or minimally one, its closest afinities would most likely be to proto-Pygmies or some other, now lost/extinct, indingenous (and likely quite basal) sapiens variant. Also, otherwise, a significant Mechtoid admixed (let alone mostly so ie “Mechtoid adapted to SSA”) very unlikely and really not plausible, from what we know, at that date and region—Nigeria/South Nigeria—(or even later). The tool kits (and many other very ancient one in various parts of West Africa, both north and south of there) associated with the site are also of indigenous origin, having their affinities to older ones of the general region (ultimately going back well before the holocene).
          Your cited nature aricle does not seem to show admixture Yoruba and their is no direct claim or evidence to that effect (none shown on the map and none is attributed to the Igbo or other nearly Weast African groups.) The authors’ attriubution of the “non-zero” Neanderthal signals in them to mixture is speculative and has other possible causes—which of course have been mentioned/specuated upon in this thread). They also speak of course of substantial admixture nearer to the horn of Africa (long known).
          They seem to make some indication in one image of small fractions of Admixture in two groups in the Sahel. One, the Fulani, are show in the visual to have a small ammount seeming close th the the about 10% indicated in some other studies. The Other, the Wolof, have significantly less (a smaller sliver). The small pie charts representing the Mandinka, Jola, and other West African groups are shown with no admixture, or less than was thought representin there
          The (I believe more recent) study(s) at Anthromadness give Eurasian mixture in the Wolof at about 2.26%-4.04%, which may likely be consistent with the ammount indicated in your cited study for them (in the visual described above).
          http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-mota-mistake.html

        11. Edit: “The tool kits (and many other very ancient ones/cultures in various parts of West Africa, ranging both north and south of there) associated with the site are also of indigenous…”

        12. “they could’ve been reading those low yet present percentages found in Yoruba based on those Anthromadness results.”
          The Yoruba percent given (at Anthromadness) is about 1.5. The effects of such percentages could also be an additional possible factor (sometimes/in some instances, varyingly).

        13. “Specifically, ancient Eurasian admixture was observed in central West African populations (Yoruba; ~7,500–10,500 years ago), old admixture among Ethiopian populations (~2,400–3,200 years ago) consistent with previous reports10, 12, and more recent complex admixture in some East African populations (~150–1,500 years ago) (Fig. 2, Extended Data Fig. 7 and Supplementary Note 5). Our finding of ancient Eurasian admixture corroborates findings of non-zero Neanderthal ancestry in Yoruba, which is likely to have been introduced through Eurasian admixture and back migration, possibly facilitated by greening of the Sahara desert during this period13, 14.”
          Here is where they claimed such, however aside from dates they didn’t really give solid info. The say it supports neanderthal detection, not that it’s based of such. Basically, I’m confused on how that’s possible. None of their charts even shows it clearly.
          I know Iwo eleru couldn’t be Mechtoids, for as I’ve said they show little affiliation with them based of that craniomorphology study i gave.
          Mechtoid adapted to the Sub Sahara were known, so it was a possibility but as you said there was no support.
          Basically what I’m asking is what exactly was it that they found in the Yoruba? While it often boasted it’s not really well discussed.

        14. “Here is where they claimed such,…”
          My mistake. I must have missed that. It could be based on an old, erroneosly high/inflated estimate. Or it could more refer to a number close to the 1.5 percent found ( or corroborated) in recent studies (which is about the same as the Mandinka score; but higher than the Igbo scores, which are 0%, .48%, and .02; South Ghanaian Ga-Adangme, at .15 and .70,….)
          Some such low numbers could possibly be influenced by noise (the lowest numbers more likely that is, if at all), so they are maybe a little tentative/imprecise (but still informative) .

        15. So, here’s my guess.
          That 1.5%, if actually eurasian, was either residue of mechtoids going further south due to neolithic displacement or Neolithic expanders going south due to the drying of the green sahara.
          At that percentage, it’s comparable to other tribes of the Sahel, though from what I read from this study
          http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2016/06/panorama-of-african-admixture.html
          The small percentages in northern tribes were referred to as recent rather than ancient like the Yoruba results. BTW, yeah, the study is flawed in regards to the Yoruba since it uses the Mota study which was over estimated.
          Now, what is more speculative, is whether this would validate the Yoruba having higher Neanderthal affinity than the Luhya (again, though it was Kikuyu but I was wrong). On one hand, an older eurasion genome would have a higher Neanderthal contribution, so that could compensate for it not being overall as high as the 7% in the Luhya (likely from Easy Africans) Though I’m not sure How much are in East Africans from which that percentage likely comes from.
          In that case it would be settled then, and overall the effects would be minute.

  26. Pretty much to xenophobic people all other races appear as monkeys. Often whites are considered monkeys, and in some cases they actually are just that.

    1. The type of ape varies by race, if an ape at all. Another race may appear more animal-like.

      Look at this chick strap-on: https://m.smutty.com/s/Ax5SH/

      Looks animal like to me but it’s colored like some light-skinned Black or Brown guy. Dark Black dicks can look like chocolate at best and wet poop log at worst. All very alien to me either way.

      My own race appears more human and more flawed because I can see more of its flaws. I’m attracted to fat East Asians. My standards for Whites are much higher.

  27. It is no secret that blacks are closely compared to apes. It is also no secret as to why. Blacks simply did not go through any type of evolutionary process. They are a dead end, evolutionarily speaking. Once the human DNA genome was cracked, any scientist can easily tell you that blacks are not fully evolved, fully functioning human beings.
    Not quite sure why this is still even up to discussion, when everyone clearly knows the truth, without even having to research it. Blacks are not human.

  28. We should look more how people relate to each other than physical features. I’ve seen people with porcine features. Are they then closer to pigs? Black people are more progressive in a human way than whites. It’s us that suffered under the hands of white man slavery. Yet it is white who hate US for being different. We are a threat to the success of their species! Monkey talk lol. Logically we have a reasonable cause to hate. The lesser creatures hate different. Watch wildlife programmes.
    Look beyond the physical traits to see the true nature of the beast
    You can’t always take the scientists seriously. I’ve heard that they are saying that whites actually don’t come from homoerectus, but Neanderthal. How quickly that would be refuted!

  29. Lindsay
    Maybe this is a ridiculously stupid question, but why do the hairiest people originate near the equator? One would expect that Northern Europeans would have evolved to be hairier so as to adapt to arctic winters.

    1. Well based on my reading, they don’t. Equatorial Black for example have been often recorded to lack Body hair. Perhaps some South Asians may have a tendencies towards beards but that’s the best I could possibly know of.
      Actually, whites do have a higher tendency towards Body Hair sue to living in a historically warmer Climate, hell I think it’s even thicker to but I believe Asians have the thickest. What gave you the impression of otherwise? I mean, just for the sake of being stereotypical, does the image of an ancient Celt give you the idea of a BALD figure?

      1. At the salon I go to, most of the people receiving facial or bodily waxes are Black or Mediteranean in appearance. It’s rare you’ll see a blond getting a facial wax, often times they request to have their brows thickened.

        1. Well that depend on the demographics of you’re area. Body hair isn’t unlikely, but on average less than compared to Northern Europeans. That or they may have other methods of removing hair.

    1. I’ve seen some that do. Some dark Blacks have a greyish/silvery tone, like silverback gorillas. I don’t consider it an insult to be a gorilla, very strong animal.
      .

  30. He is 100 percent correct. How can a black person be the same species. They have sculls twice as thick, bent arms, thick hair and large noses. All this is scientific evidence they have not long ago become ground dwellers. We should be conducting experiments as this is evolution before our eyes. Years to come gorilla.

    1. Bone density differences are not “twice as thick” despite being higher.
      “Trotter et al (28) extensively examined racial differences in bone. In 1958, they reported that the densities of the humerus and femur were significantly greater in blacks than in whites, with the racial effect on bone density being more pronounced in the humerus (P < 0.01) than in the femur (P < 0.05). Bone densities in the humerus were as follows: black males, 0.718 ± 0.102 g/cm3; white males, 0.642 ± 0.133 g/cm3; black females, 0.640 ± 0.139 g/cm3; and white females, 0.566 ± 0.114 g/cm3. The femoral data were collected as part of an earlier study from Trotter et al’s laboratory and only the means for the femur were given in this review: black males, 0.700 g/cm3; white males, 0.628 g/cm3; black females, 0.652 g/cm3; and white females, 0.589 g/cm3. Trotter et al also noted a parallel decrease in the densities of the humerus among the 4 groups with increasing age, but no age-related racial differences.”
      http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1392.full
      Hair is actually less dense in blacks, and that makes sense considering whites lived in colder areas.
      http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=477885
      “bent arms” I think you mean longer forearms.
      Overall, the differences only means that blacks have different environmental adaptations being a different “race”, not a different species.

  31. GAY STATE GIRL
    Jewish men and women are quite hairy and they are neither Northern European nor Equatorial. All Mediterranean people seem to be quite hairy including Italians (Sort of joke).

  32. Does that mean whites are from the Rhesus monkey aka Asian monkeys( RH factory). Primary example we can take former president Bush Jr and place him with them Asian monkeys and he will fit in just right. Also have you been everywhere in African to see us all?! Or is your uneducated theory based on racist findings. Do you even know that the people in wet land African have different features I.e thin nose, curly hair & skin color and that there are 6 face(s) of Africans that looks different from one another based on features equatorial & Ocean plays a part. How about we as humans study why some white people are the way they are…. lies aka discovered, killer aka settlers, lack of empathy/sympathy that makes a human….” Human”, sociopath, histrionic cover up, the skin that reject’s the sun, wrinkles, skin color that changes like the rainbow, the smell of wet dog which is not a human diet at all, etc..etc.. We have to know which unknown species whites are really from.Your Great swimmer Michael P looks just like an Ape himself but happen to be white tho. So If we are the apes you all are the monkeys and some are Monkey-apes case close. This piece is for the racist whites 😃 from an Africa person ✌

    1. Look Nini, I am going to have to ban your Black ass.
      You insulted me, and that is not allowed on here. Go read the Comments Rules. If you still wish to post, you may petition the ban in an email to me.

    2. Well stated Nini. Its just the truth. They want except it my sister but It is what it is? Oneday soon they want have any other choice!
      PEACE

  33. David White summed it up! So, happy to see someone gave a more factual understanding of what has been whitewashed out for ages. That’s why they have so many health problems, they use to mix genes with anything that moved!!! White people meet your cousins the apes/Neanderthals. Black Africans in Africa, U.S., and other places has next to no mixture of ape or neanderthal genes. Go READ!! READ TRUTH!

  34. Old studies on the matter aren’t wrong… The controversial nature of the subject has led to abandonment of newer studies.
    Even fairly recently, the US government set out to prove that there was no intellectual difference between blacks and white… it’s hard to find the results because it turned out they were wrong.
    From a simple common sense perspective, it is obvious that people from Africa are less evolved than anyone else, as they stayed in our ancestral homeland… they had no biological reason to change. The rest of the races had to adapt to harsh climates, learn agriculture, home building, etc…
    This is not a reason to judge any individual black person, as they never had any say in the matter… it is merely food for thought.

    1. While they have older traits like bone density, prognathism, etc, they aren’t “the same as 50-70k ago”, netither are they monolithic.
      The Homeland of Ancient humans was East Africa not West Africa like Negroids, who did learn agriculture.
      Food for thought on the actual literature versus “common sense”.
      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/africans-are-not-stone-age-people/#comment-282198
      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/10/11/are-negroids-throwbacks/

    2. Also, it’s not quite “Harsh” environments as much as Variability.
      Basically, it explains the modern North to South IQ correlation in part as well how as despite that finding OOA still Works.
      While Neanderthals lived in Tundras, while the became more R selected they had smaller and more isolated communities so they needed those traits for stability, basically like Inuits with big heads but lower IQ than some other Northern populations that were larger.
      While harsh, it wasn’t variable. However, basic in Africa not only was the Savanna climate more variable but the whole Area where human evolved was changing while the Glacial period of Neanderthals shifted as well.
      However, over time, climatic variable then changed between the North/South Hemispheres beginning with the Northern one being warmer which aided in Human Migration.
      So you need a combination of change and diversity with a huge population to avoid being to R selected.

  35. Interesting discourse. I think that every race seems to have similarities to Primates, hence our fitting categorization as great apes. I have also seen some people who look like dogs and cats and other similar creatures, and after all we are mammals. Having said that, the Tropics called for certain physical characteristics and so too was living in different climatic condition, and those were added.
    For example, take away the pigment from a person with black eyes and the base is blue. Whites with blue eyes just don’t have the pigment. See, we all have blue eyes. It’s the basic model. That should also hint that all humans at some point may have had blue eyes, and blond-haired people are just lacking pigment in their hair.
    We are not as different or unique as we would like to think. Those are digressive cultural ideas, thought up by long-dead men before the massive advances of human development and education that some still can’t let go of, as it makes them somehow feel better about themselves. “Chronic cultural narcissism” – what it has attained is the breaking of a people and their culture and sense of self, economy and family.
    We all look like animals because we all are animals. Caucasians have little or no lips like primates, including hair up the whazoo including on their backs, and they shed accordingly. The hair on Black people is best described as wool-like – nothing like that of other primates. In fact, ape hair looks more like that of other races. Blacks are more advanced bipedally. This is evidenced in their singular capacity at track events, not evident in other primates.
    To be clear, I am not a racist hatemonger. No civilized person is, I have Caucasian in my family and are mixed black person with Portuguese, Irish, Italian, Native American, Middle Eastern, French, Spanish and African ancestry. I am just stating the obvious facts.
    I do loathe the stupid “high IQ” things perfectly functional people think and imply about people of “African” phenotype.
    Take a closer look at narcissism, and you will understand some of the psychological issues behind this delusion of grandeur. But it’s more complex than that. It takes all forms and is now in its post-slavery phase where the victims whose ancestors engaged in the practice and culture of slavery now have a form of PTSD where they have to justify that Blacks are a lesser being. Blacks on the other hand are far too engaged in their PTSD recovery of the lost years as a race and culture minus any indoctrination of hate towards others in spite of the history.
    The real needed debate on race should be on the psychology behind racism and Black and Caucasian psychology and cultures post slavery.

    1. Lloyd
      Your average white North American is the grandchild or great-grandchild of immigrants from Europe or Asia who arrived long, long after the Civil War.
      Korean-Americans from LA and Yankee whites feel little or no guild for slavery. It had at that time been a wretched practice across the Americas but now its legacy has faded into the mists of time.
      Africans in the United States are a composite of many tribes and even several different races-Amerindian too a degree, even.
      They are a new race, born on the U.S. continent that emerged from both Native Americans and Europeans and Africans.

    2. In my area, black is a lesser being but not Amerindian. However, in some areas, Amerindian isn’t seen as much different than a black. However, the south is long removed from the red-man/white-man conflict, unlike in the west or in Canada. Anyhow, Cherokees fought for the south in the Civil War and owned slaves – and they’re pretty prejudiced against blacks – as hypocritical as that is.

  36. Africans don’t dominate long distance and marathon events 5000 meter above. These folks come from various races.
    I’d agree that blacks seem to have fast twitch muscles and Caucasians seem to have slightly greater upper-body strength but having said that many of the best bodybuilders have been African-American.
    For every generalization there are dozens of exceptions.
    Not all Caucasians are particularly hirsute and Arabs are even more hirsute which is why Southern Europeans display some of these traits.

    1. TRASH
      It is true that Blacks basically blow everyone out of the water, in, say, the 100m dash.
      They don’t do quite as well in long distance.
      But they DO bulk up better.
      Look at the NFL, https://www.besttickets.com/blog/nfl-player-census-2014/
      The Defensive tackle job, one of the biggest players is virtually 100% Black in the NFL.
      But a role that requires quick reflexes, the Corner Back, is also Blacker than average.

    2. East Asians work longtime at the gym. I hardly see any Blacks and if I do they aren’t working that hard. Blacks are naturally more muscular though. If a Black pumps up even a little, it really shows. Whites have to work more than Blacks but less than Asians to get juicy muscles.

    1. I don’t know Trash – but racists don’t think rationally. Note, in my opinion, some douchebag racist white bitch is just as much black as some black guy who bullies you in prison. It’s all the same.

      1. JASON Y Funny Story
        Ray was a Polish guy in my community similar to the Clint character. He was always “kicking somebody’s ass”. Always barely or unprovoked. Always somebody smaller and weaker than him.
        My roommate, also part of the Polish community of Detroit, got frantic phone calls from jail after some assault landed him in jail for a long time. He was pleading for bail. His own family was not willing to bail him out.
        Most whites who are terrorized by NAMS in prison have terrorized others for years.

  37. Most of the racist stuff whether from blacks or whites is just the product of low education and mental illness combined with a hypermasculine outlook, in most cases – but there are some exceptions. Generally, nobody with a real education and hope in life is full of such gutter talk and behavior.
    Generally, the folks doing the racist bullying are insecure – mainly because they’re mentally ill combined with coming from a real macho background. It’s mostly the projection of insecurity. That’s why a lot of them are also self-haters.

    1. JASON Y Bullying and Cowardice
      Clint is usually deathly afraid of black population centers. This is the biggest reason whites no longer commit as many crimes or at least stop committing them over the age of 20. They just don’t want to be raped and terrorized by NAMS in jail.
      Blacks will abuse people in Harlem. They won’t even go to the Flyover.
      Rednecks will tip over Jewish tombstones. They won’t fight Jews in Brooklyn.
      Rednecks will not enter San Francisco’s gay quarter (They cannot afford to anyhow) and call gays “faggots”. Gay or not gay, men will hurt them.

      1. Yeah, WNs have not considered this fact: Blacks in the US deter crime among whites. If there were no blacks in prison, whites wouldn’t fear prison.

  38. The question, though, is “Should these idiots (black, latino, white APES) be punished for their behavior,. For instance, if they harass people at a restaurant where they work – then if someone reported them, then would that person be an oversensitive wuss? OR would he/she be someone that is finally taking a stand against these FUCKING IDIOTS. 😆
    I think it’s a good thing to give such an employee the axe and if that person wants gang revenge, well BRING IT ON !!! FUCK THESE PEOPLE.

    1. JASON Y Bonnie’s Story
      Bonnie was in her late 30’s and was sort of my boss in a diner near the university. I worked there a few months, thinking the whole thing was disgusting.
      Anyhow, Bonnie got angry when I had to attend class. It was the end of my shift anyhow.
      “I have kids and your classes are not more important than my kids!”
      This is the classic prole protest: their random irresponsible f*cking in their past is a mistake we should all suffer for.
      By telephone this job I quit. I felt disgusted by the whole thing.

      1. Right, “Yes, I’m a stupid bitch, but this working class job washes away my sin – and you won’t work – so you’re more evil than i am – even though I’m a bitch.”

        1. JASON Y LaBelle Restaurant 1996 Bonnie and Doug
          I was a 23 year old junior in at a university in rural Michigan when I was hired.
          Doug also complained I left to attend a class.
          His story was that he had had a child when he was 18 years old. Bonnie had been a former stripper. She lived with a truck driver.
          Bonnie was a large, vulgar woman with a receded chin about 40. A sleazy trucker type would sometimes visit her.
          She did not want to show me the recipe book. Refused to train me. Seem furious at me.
          The manager had scheduled me around my classes when I was hired.
          “Your classes are not more important than my kids.”

        2. Well, that’s admirable they want to work to support kids, some flyover bitches won’t work and do drugs all the time. Nonetheless, the working ones go into a self-righteous mode bullying people who go to college or anyone else that they see doesn’t fit the truck driver/construction worker mode of the men who commonly visit the diner.

        3. I don’t care if women want to have kids young and work at a diner to survive. That’s great. But when one of them goes into a mode of wanting to punish a customer – because she doesn’t like him – then that’s a different story – and nobody wants to hear their racial gripes about life on the job – not the customers or co-workers.

        4. JASON Y
          I think this led me to seek out prostitutes for blow jobs. At 23, I could see how pissed off the people who became parents young and ill-prepared were in middle-age.
          No travel. No chance of career advancement. No chance for further education. Limited sex partners. No fun at all.

        5. I’m not really sure if a lot of the fact there is no education is really the fault of society or not. The women in the diners could do some self-improvement – but they have massively douchebag personalities that won’t allow it.

      2. Right (female speaking), so some black guy broke up with me, so now I am a KKK poster-girl. I want to now harass college educated faggot liberal elitists or poor white race-mixers who eat at the restaurant where I work.

        1. JASON Y
          It freaked me out so much that I made a mental note not to wear a rubber.
          Half the people-male and female-had the same story. They had f*cked their head off in high school and at 18 they had kids. Either they were paying mad child support or were single-mothers, pissed off as hell.
          The black manager was later busted for selling pounds of marijuana. The dishwasher was a meth dealer. Bonnie was so crusty she must have been at one point doing something rough. Her boyfriend was a huge trucker.
          It was just full of people you’d cross the street to avoid.

        2. JASON Y
          Any repeat customers?
          For somebody from the urban North it is impossible to understand why people care so much about other people or what they do.
          But of course in small towns, depending upon your salary and your life choices, it is hard to get out.

    2. JASON Y An Urban Elitist Response
      If I saw flies in a restaurant I would not return. Why would anyone go to a restaurant where the staff were rude.
      Should somebody threaten me like that, I’d get another job.
      Gang revenge? Are they going to do a Straw Dogs?
      Are people really that stupid in small towns. Does everyone know where everyone else lives?
      Do you ever wonder why Northeast and West Coast and urban people just roll their eyes at the sheer stupidity of people of the prairies or the deciduous forests of the South.

      1. Possibly, though, the fact these dumb bitches can drive away customers gives them too much power I think.. Why should I leave cause one of them is mean? I think SHE should pay.
        See, that’s why these douchebags have so much power – they believe, just like the KKK burning crosses in people’s yards, that they can bully everyone into doing what they want. In other words, they want ME TO LEAVE.

        1. JASON Y Tales of a College Town
          “Butch” was the scariest. He was from West Virginia and he hired me as a laborer on his contracting site.
          He had owned a tool and supply store and when a new store opened he broke in and burnt all their tools.
          He threatened me once about his half-pitbull and half-Great Dane saying it could kill me.
          He had a jittery Southern twang and would be rude, daring you to respond.
          His son and daughter-and-law lived behind his house in a trailer. They moved out when he broke his daughter-in-law’s ankle when pushing her down while she was stoned on meth.
          His other son attempted suicide once.
          Finally his son robbed him and ran off to California never to return.
          I don’t blame him.
          Rural America is full of scary people.
          However, they never want to go into urban areas. This I notice about them.

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