We Are Not Our Ancestors

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You have to seperate the Non Hijazis from the HIjazis. The former are ‘Arabs’ from Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. These appear to be ‘white.’ The Hijazis are the pure Arab stock of the Arabian Peninsula. They aren’t excatly white, but are a mix of caucazoid and Australoid. The Non Hijazis becamse Arabised over time following the Arab conquests.

Modern Egyptians I’m told, are basically a genetic mixed bag. They’re a combination of caucazoid, Negroid and Hijazi genetics. One of my Egyptian friend’s Mother was totally caucasian looking. She identified herself as an Arab and a Muslim, however she looked totally Italian. Straight nose, high cheekbones straight black hair, very striking features. My buddy on the other hand was extremly fair skinned, but had somewhat negroid features, a borad nose and curly hair.

“”We are talking about a race that no longer exists. “””

This makes no sense. I thought there were basically 3 different races and most people were a combination of the 3? (Ok 4 if you include the Australoids). Ethnicities are temporal however (The Romans, Sumerians and Aryans no longer exist even though their decendants still carry their genes).

Well, if you go back in time, you really are dealing with races that no longer exist. There is no longer a minor race on Earth that resembles the ancient Egyptians, nor the ancient Romans, nor the Europeans from 30,000 YBP, nor the Amerindians from 9-12,000 YBP. Ok? Get it? There are some modern races which are most similar to say the Amerindians 9000 YBP. Those races would be the Ainu and the Moriori, but they are not an exact match for either.

So what were the ancient Amerindians? We have to call them Amerindians, but racially they looked like a mixture of Australoid and Polynesian.

No one really knows what race the ancient Egyptians were. They do look like some Caucasoid-African mixture. One theory is that Egyptian Copts, of all ethnicities on Earth, most closely resemble the ancient Egyptians. The fact that we are not our ancestors is one reason why the argument about whether ancient Egyptians were Black or White is sort of insane. Maybe they weren’t exactly either?

The Europeans of 20-30,000 YBP most resembled the Amerindians of the NW coast like the Makah. So were the ancient Europeans Amerindians? Well, not really. They were ancient Europeans.

The Romans represent a race which is extinct (they were incredibly strong), but their descendants are the modern Italians of course.

Europeans of 10-13,000 YBP resembled genetically and physically most closely modern Arabs. So were these Europeans Arabs? Well, not really, they were archaic Europeans.

See what I mean?

As you can see, when we try to assign modern racial categories to ancient peoples, we run into some horrible roadblocks. We are almost better off throwing up our hands and saying ancient races are a social construct.

Bottom line: We are not our ancestors!

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17 thoughts on “We Are Not Our Ancestors”

  1. This is exactly true in India and even Arab world

    Entire conflict and Racism can be better understood in Arab and Hindu world , if we study the People with higher proportion of Australoid Genes compared to the ones with lower proportion of Australoid genes

    Arabs in Saudi arabia,Egypt,Qatar and Gulf resemble indians,their behavior and Habits are similar to indians,Only change is they follow Islam

    Majority of indians carry Australoid genetic pool, This makes them uncivilized with lower IQ’s and Extremely Violent people

    Culture did change the Attitude of people ,but Racism in India/arab world can be better understood when we study Australoid/afro Arab,Indian population and Caucasian Indo-EU ,Indians,Persians,and Levanites

  2. So how do you know europeans of 20.000 years ago ressembled american indians and 13.000 ago arabs? Found any mummy lately that proved the hair texture or skin color? Untill then from 20.000-13.000 it is still Cro Magnon time wandering between ice ages across Europe kicking Neanderthals ass. Cro Magnon has highly aryan nordic features albeit all in megarama version. You’re free to give your personal chromatic version of Cro Magnon but it is more than that, nothing proofs his appearance, but most likely he was 100% white, from where he lived and originated and to whom he ressembles today, nordic.

    1. There is a skull from 20,000 YBP and it looks more like a skull from the Makah of Washington state than anything else.

      Skulls and genes of Europeans around 13,000 YBP look more like Arabs than anything else.

      There was no modern European race until maybe 9000 years ago. Before that, they looked a lot different.

      1. Cro-Magnons are almost indistinguishable from Amerindians. They did have some pretty big heads though. (1600cc).

  3. Euroepans looked “different” like everything else was different between and after ice ages. Bigger, sturdier, more massive, so was rhinoceros, timberwolf, giant deer, wisent. Intense cold and lifestyle made up for thse differences. Please show me your references to proof european skulls were semitic or protomongolid. Like 1 skull.. fragment?

    1. Get lost, jerk. I am banning your White supremacist ass. Go back to Bourdeaux, Frenchy. The reference is on Wikipedia. go look it up. The Arabic reference is from Dienekes blog. Go take it up with him. It is widely acknowledged that modern European types only showed up maybe 9,000 years ago.

  4. Just showing interest for your post and truly interested in your references as I am open for debate and change of mind, unlike you apparently. You’re calling me a white supremacist while you states blacks have low IQ’s and I’m merely contesting your protomongolid cro magnon. Funny. Cultural marxism drips from your picture. How could I be that dumb to engage in debate.

    1. I don’t feel like going back and looking up that reference for you. It was an article on Wikipedia about one of the most famous Cro-Magnon skulls of all, and it said the skull plots most closely with the Amerindians of NW America.

  5. http://dienekes.blogspot.fr/2008/11/y-chromosomes-from-algeria.html

    Here is dieneke’s link : it says indeed some haplogroup markers come from algeria, yes but from berbers living in algeria. Berbers are white. I f you call a berber in algeria an arab most likely you end up dead. They are supposedly linked to early egyptians. So you see I remain polite and try to learn from you while you twist or hopefully misinterprete facts. Adieu!

    1. On Dienkes’ blog, he stated that Europeans from 13,000 YBP look like Arabs in genes and in skull appearance. Berbers are paleo-Caucasians and many Berbers do not look very European at all!

  6. “So what were the ancient Amerindians? We have to call them Amerindians, but racially they looked like a mixture of Australoid and Polynesian.”

    How would you or anyone know this? Why wouldn’t they look like Eskimos?

    “No one really knows what race the ancient Egyptians were. They do look like some Caucasoid-African mixture.”

    Why would we not know what the ancient Egyptians look like, if it is known what other ancient people look like?

    “The Europeans of 20-30,000 YBP most resembled the Amerindians of the NW coast like the Makah.”

    How has that been determined?

    “The Romans represent a race which is extinct (they were incredibly strong), but their descendants are the modern Italians of course.”

    How do we know that Romans weren’t the same as today’s Italians?

    “Europeans of 10-13,000 YBP resembled genetically and physically most closely modern Arabs.”

    I’m just curious how you can possibly know all this. My understanding is that we have little idea beyond guestimates.

  7. Where can one read about all this? I read as much as I can about paleoanthropology, but it seems like most popular literature on it avoids racially tinged issues like the plague. Even if, ironically, they tend—like the material presented here–to undermine crude racism. Race is–socially at least–a reality, and it is something about which people are naturally curious. The blackout on the topic is counterproductive, just like deliberate sexual ignorance.

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