Why Jews Support Open Borders

There are some comments suggesting that Jews support Open Borders for less than ulterior motives. One suggestion was that Jews supported Open Borders in order to get Hispanics on board with pro-Israel sentiment. Another suggestion was that Jews made an agreement to support the Black Agenda if Blacks would ease up on South Africa, an Israeli ally.

First of all, Jews are going to support the Black agenda anyway, so there’s no need for an agreement. Second of all, this deal did not work very well because Blacks kept hammering away at South Africa nevertheless.

Sure, Jews are basically looking out for their own. Of course they are.

But that doesn’t explain Jewish liberalism very much. Jewish liberalism is deep and heartfelt and frankly goes against their economic self-interest as wealthy people. It’s probably a holdover from the early days when the Jews first came here and they were poor and often Leftist. Then there is the Reform notion of Tikkun Olam, making the world a better place. Jews have been heavily involved in many or most of the progressive projects in the past century. Most Jews think that’s pretty cool. Why were they doing that? Maybe Tikkun Olam.

The Right has been anti-Semitic for a long time, at least a century or more in Europe and in the US.

Before that, Napoleon was a progressive who tried to overthrow conservative monarchies in Europe in the name of a progressive project, almost a Woodrow Wilson or neoconservative before his time. He also liberated the Jews. This may have begun the love affair between progressives and the Jews. In other words, Jewish liberalism or Leftism may have begun with Napoleon.

US conservatism was anti-Semitic for most of this century. It was only with the Reagan Revolution and the New Right headquartered in Orange County, California, that the Right began to move away from that. The Birchers also turned away from anti-Semitism after a bit.

Nevertheless, the Republican Party is very racist, mostly against Blacks and to a lesser extent against Hispanics. Jews see that and worry. Most Jews figure that a White who hates Blacks or maybe Hispanics probably doesn’t like Jews very much either. It’s a form of paranoia, but it’s based on reality.

Further, the Republican Party is insanely Christian fundamentalist. Jews don’t think too much of Christianity period for historical reasons. And they really don’t like these fundie Christians one bit. These fundies are like Christians on steroids, and most liberal Jews do not like them or trust them.

We have not talked enough on here about the sociology of political expression. Jews grow up in a liberal environment, so they turn into liberals.

In my previous post, I noted a number of towns I had lived in and how it seemed that every White person in the towns was a conservative Republican. I never was, but frankly that was not an easy position for me to take, and I suffered a lot for it. The peer pressure to go along with the crowd is extreme in White communities, and I think this is one reason so many Whites go Republican. They are simply doing what everyone else is doing.

We see this with conservatism in Texas, Arizona, the mountain West, the Ozarks, the South and Appalachia. I’ve known conservative Whites from these areas, and I often felt that they got into that politics because that was what everyone else was doing. Most didn’t seem to have a logical reason for being reactionaries.

What’s going on here is that liberal Jews like the Jewish organizations think that anti-immigrant sentiment is bad for the Jews. They were all immigrants not too long ago. And they know that anti-immigrant sentiment leads to nativism, which turns to racism, which turns to racist nationalism or racist ethnonationalism, which has a tendency historically to turn on the Jews as not real Sneeds of Sneedland or whatever.

Also, most of these organizations are made up of liberal Jews, and if you are a Democratic Party liberal, I know this from experience, it is utterly mandatory that you get on board with the Open Borders thing. If you don’t, you are shunned and ultimately banned from forums or cast out of party circles in one way or another. The Democratic Party and liberalism has a number of issues on which you are not allowed to dissent, and Open Borders is one of them.

86 thoughts on “Why Jews Support Open Borders”

  1. I’m not going to debate you on this, Robert, because we’ve done this before and I know your stance.

    I’ll just say that I perceive Jews for what they are: a fifth column within white America.

  2. The Democratic Party and liberalism has a number of issues on which you are not allowed to dissent, and Open Borders is one of them.

    This seems to be true, and is why I can’t be bothered with these people. They are just unmoored from common sense at this point. I am certainly not voting right wing, so I guess I stay home.

    I don’t have a problem with Jews or anyone else considering their self-interest, as long as they understand that others have survival issues too. As BAG suggested, importing people to make up for exporting jobs is just another Ponzi scheme that can’t go on forever.

    I understand of course that logic and future time orientation are often of no consideration in forming a political stance, even if said stance may have life or death consequence for one or one’s children.

    As I mentioned in the other thread, open borders isn’t even “good for the Jews” in the long run. Non-whites care bupkes about Israel or the Holocaust. Also, how do these nice liberal Jews think they will fare, once whites become a minority, if Jews are perceived to have had an outsized role in white marginalization?

    As Gerald Celente says, people with nothing to lose, lose it.

    1. Non-whites care bupkes about Israel or the Holocaust. Also, how do these nice liberal Jews think they will fare, once whites become a minority, if Jews are perceived to have had an outsized role in white marginalization?

      As I’ve said before, Jews ought to be careful what they wish for.

      The only correction I’ll make is that while non-whites don’t care about Israel, their politicians certainly follow the Israel (ie. Jewish) lobby’s agenda. The Congressional Black Caucus, with rare exceptions, doesn’t criticize Israel. Ditto for certain Asian politicians like Daniel Inouye (who got his start selling Israeli bonds). Well, I guess you could say the same thing about the Democratic party in general, which gets about 50-60% of its money from Jews, most of whom are pro-Israel. Regardless of your ideology, you don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

      1. BAG, you just do not know what you’re talking about. I know plenty of white gentiles who care very deeply about Israel. They’re evangelical Christians. Public opinion data support this anecdotal evidence. The vast majority of American “Zionists” are Christian, if by “Zionist” you mean someone who likes and cares about Israel too much.

        I know this is the Internet, and nobody is expected to know what he’s talking about, but you’re really abusing the privilege.

        1. I know plenty of white gentiles who care very deeply about Israel. They’re evangelical Christians. Public opinion data support this anecdotal evidence. The vast majority of American “Zionists” are Christian, if by “Zionist” you mean someone who likes and cares about Israel too much.

          Yeah, and I’ve known Jews who care deeply about Israel. So what’s your point, smart-ass?

          And Aaron, if you seriously believe that the Israel gets most of its support from the Christian Zionists, then you just do not know what you’re talking about.

          They provide support for Israel on the ground in Republican states, but they’re not the ones behind the money, and they’re not the ones who actively lobby for Israel in the same way that organized Jewry does.

          The power of this country’s Israel lobby existed well before the arrival of the Christian Zionists, so your argument is a red herring.

          I know this is the Internet, and nobody is expected to know what he’s talking about, but you’re really abusing the privilege.

          Yeah, I know Jews can be arrogant and condescending, but I thought you were one of the righteous ones, Aaron.

  3. Not all jews support open borders. Some conservative jews like Michael Savage say close the borders(I really don’t like Michael Savage’s pro-war attitude though).

    However there is a significant segment in the jewish community that is for open borders and third world immigration. The reason for this is this is a reaction against white anti-semitism. Many jews are worried that in white majority countries they are at risk of being exterminated.

    The reason they are worried about this is because Adolf Hitler tried to exterminate the jews in the name of the advancement of the white race.

    So due to the actions of the nazis there are many jews who now work very hard to make white countries into multiracial countries. They do this for their own safety.

    I am not sure if these agendas will make white people minorities in all their indigenous countries, I am not sure what all these policies will lead to. It is important though to realize that there are a portion of jews who are very much against mass immigration and a portion of jews want to keep white people a clear majority in their countries.

    And so hopefully white gentile people and jews can work on healing their communities and engaging in dialog with eachother. Ethnic jews whther ashkenazi, sephardic, or mizrahi are biologically white.

    White people also have to get used to living in multiracial societies and figure out how to adapt to the situation if adapting to the situation is possible.

    Racial community diaolog is important and healing between jews and white gentiles is important because right now there is a huge wound involving these two peoples and the healing must happen.

    Jews and white gentiles need to promote peace between eachother and learn to live in peace and harmony with eachother,

    1. So due to the actions of the nazis there are many jews who now work very hard to make white countries into multiracial countries.

      Jews seriously need to get over the Nazi Holocaust.

      Anyway, I consider the attempts of Jews to turn white countries into multiracial countries ipso facto anti-white, especially in light of the fact that they don’t promote similar policies for Israel (which, unlike most majority white countries, is a fascist, nazi-like state).

      I do believe that healing needs to take place between white gentiles and Jews. As far as I’m concerned, we white gentiles have done our part. Jews not only have incredible freedoms and opportunities here, they also have their asses kissed on a consistent basis.

      I think Jews are going to have to play a big role in fostering this reconciliation.

      1. On the white gentile side, our part is recognizing that not all Jews are bad guys. Righteous Jews (hehe!) like Mayer Schiller, Jew Among You, Michael Levin, Michael H. Hart, Paul Gottfried, etc, should be welcomed and embraced.

        I think we can demonize Jewish multiculturalists without attacking them AS JEWS. That way, we can attack the Jews we hate, while not alienating all Jews, including those who might potentially be pro-white.

        1. @ BaG

          I wouldn’t be so quick to trust Jew among you as his tactics bear an uncanny resemblance to those used by Rabbi Daniel Lapin. The Rabbi maintained a website years ago called ‘Toward Tradition’ which encouraged a reconciliation between Jews and Christians. The Rabbi talked about how both religions shared a common heritage and called for the ADL to lay of Christians. But why? Because as the website FAQ stated, Christians were the biggest supporters of Israel.His current website encourages Christians to send donations to the needy in Israel (http://www.rabbidaniellapin.com/dynpage.php?id=4#question_5). While paying lip service to Christian interests, the Rabbi is covertly shepherding Christians into the Zionist camp. All roads lead to Israel it seems.

          Jew Among you is no different. While he pays lip service to White interests, he sneakily tries to draw in a comparison between white nationalism and Zionism. He maintains that Israel needs to protect its ethnic character by preventing inter-marriage with Arabs: http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/conquering-the-land/

          Stating that Arabs are waging war on the Jewish race through inter marriage is a childishly silly claim, but what is he trying to accomplish? He’s trying to draw a parallel between Zionism and white nationalism where none exists. White Nationalists are trying to protect their racial/ethnic identity by exercising their sovereign right to restrict immigration. Immigrants have no claim to the US and Canada. I’m an immigrant (I’m a citizen of Canada now) and I realized this when applying for Canadian residency. Zionists on the other hand wish to protect Israel’s Jewish character at the expense of a people who possess a legitimate historical claim to the land that the Jews are currently squatting on. HUGE Difference. Like the Rabbi, Jew amoung you is attempting to Shepard WNs into the Zionist camp. All roads lead to Israel.

          The reason I’m telling you this is because I genuinely sympathize with the aspirations of the WN movement. Unlike Jew among you however, I don’t pretend to be a WN since I’m not White to begin with. In the end I sympathize with your struggle but it still is YOUR struggle. WNs need to choose their allies wisely as the tribe has a history of destroying movements through subversion from within.

        2. The reason I’m telling you this is because I genuinely sympathize with the aspirations of the WN movement. Unlike Jew among you however, I don’t pretend to be a WN since I’m not White to begin with. In the end I sympathize with your struggle but it still is YOUR struggle. WNs need to choose their allies wisely as the tribe has a history of destroying movements through subversion from within.

          First of all, Dota, I’d like to thank you for your support.

          To be clear, I certainly understand the dangers. A cursory glimpse at the history of neoconservatism should make anyone cautious about accepting the tribe’s help. Same thing with the great failure of the Palestinian Solidarity Movement in the U.S., caused in no small part by the presence of various progressive crypto Zionists (ie. people like Noam Chomsky) who ultimately have Jewish interests at heart. A few PSM Jews like Jeffrey Blankfort are sincere, but they’re few and far between.

          Still, that being said, I think that Jew Among You is sincere. As long as he supports WN, there is no reason to deny him the right to support Jewish nationalism, because he is being consistent.

          True, he is a Zionist and supports Jewish ethnonationalism in Israel, but based on what I’ve read from him, I don’t think he’s trying to recruit WN’s to become Israel worshippers.

          If he wants to genuinely help white people, then who am I to deny him the right to support Jewish nationalist aspirations? If I were to reject him on account of the fact that he’s also a Zionist, wouldn’t that make me somewhat similar to the ADL hypocrites who promote Jewish nationalism while denying other peoples the right to nationalism?

      2. How do you expect jews to “get over” the holocaust when there are sites like stormfront and vnn where there are posters on those sites who applaud the actions of the nazis? Many people posting on those sites wish Hitler had gotten rid of the jews.

        Sorry but jews just aren’t in a position to forget about the nazis when there are lots of people in the pro-white movement who are anti-semitic.

        If there is to be any reconciliation between jews and white gentiles there has to be a move by white gentiles towards this reconciliation.

        I have nothing against an open and honest discussion of the jewish community but doing so in an anti-semitic fashion will only hurt the white cause.

        1. Sorry but jews just aren’t in a position to forget about the nazis when there are lots of people in the pro-white movement who are anti-semitic.

          Okay, but do you know what percentage of the white population these VNN types represent? A very small fraction.

          And how closely do you think Jews really follow these VNN types? Probably not too closely.

          Sorry, but Jews need to stop using the Nazi Holocaust and neo-nazis to justify their positions.

        2. We don’t mean Jews should “get over” the holocaust. But Jews should not use the holocaust to shield themselves from criticism and younger generations of Germans should not have to bear collective guilt for what their ancestors did.

          Also the Church “holocaustianity” has become a defining point of secular jewish identity, among those who find orthodoxy archaic or those simply too lazy to go the extra mile. They believe they can live a modern lifestyle, while being loyal to their ancestors at the same time and that they can use the holocaust to gain them street cred or as leverage to further whatever cause they support. As someone who was raised Orthodox, I find it fickle and insincere.

        3. I agree that todays Germans are not guilty for what the nazis did and I agree that the holocaust should not be used as a tool, the holocaust was a tragedy and to use it as a cynical tool to advance ones ends is an insult to the people of the various ethnicities and political views who suffered during the holocaust.

          However the even of the holocaust is definitely something that is worthy of consideration when one is formulating ones political attitudes. This is why white gentiles who are proud to be white should make an effort to not get sucked into anti-semitism.

          It is no secret that historically many jews have been liberal, jewish people have written books on that. So I am not against talking about jews.

          What I am against is talking about jews in an anti-semitic way. And so anti-semites will often present the phenomena of jewish liberalism in an antisemitic way. And yes there are a significant amount of conservative jews as well.

          And so it is very important for white gentiles who have pride in their white gentile identity to make a point to reject anti-semitism and pursue a rational approach to white pride. I believe in white pride, I am white and proud. But I am also respectful of non-white people whether they are black, mixed, or whatever else there is.

          Each race and racial mixture has its own unique beauty and everyone has a right to be proud of who they are. I also support jewish pride. And I also support palestinian pride. Although I am neutral on the issues regarding Israel.

      3. @Bay Area Guy

        Jews seriously need to get over the Nazi Holocaust

        How can they do that when the evil anti-Semites constantly bring it up like Muslims telling Rabbi Schifren to “go back to Auschwitz with your 6 million brothers you lousy, stinking Jew”?

        Reference at the 2 minute 23 second mark.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2niprowCjE

        Chicken shit Muslims are MIA when confronted by Pastor Jones and the Stand Up America crowd.

        Seems they are comfortably fighting their jihad in the shadows through their mosques using terror tactics imbedded in civilian population.

        Actually Jews tend to be pretty selective in things regarding Nazis, the holocaust and Islamic extremism as long as it supports the Jewish agenda overall.

        http://www.balkanstudies.org/articles/elie-wiesels-buddy-emir-ramic-jew-hating-jihadist

        Balkans war is a perfect example of this.

        “..a REVEALING INTERVIEW by Mr. James Harff (director of Ruder & Finn Global Public Affairs) given to Mr. Jacques Merlino in Paris in October 1993. Ruder & Finn are public relations company, currently registered as foreign agents. Here are Harff’s statements, slightly abbridged. [End of quote from the periodical and beginning of the quote from the book:]

        Question: What achievement were you most proud of?

        Harff: To have managed to put Jewish opinion on our side. This was a sensitive matter, as the dossier was dangerous looked from this angle. President Tidjman was very careless in his book “Wastelands of Historical Reality”. Reading this writtings, one could accuse him of of anti- semitism.

        In Bosnia, the situation was no better: President Izetbegovic strongly supported the creation of a fundamentalist Islamic state in his book “The Islamic Declaration”. Besides, the Croatian and Bosnian past was marked by a real and cruel anti-semitism. Tens of thousands of Jews perished in Croatian camps. So there was every reason for intellectuals and Jewish organizations to be hostile towards the Croats and Bosnians. Our chalenge was to reverse this attitude. And we succeded masterfully.

        At the beginning of August 1992, the New York Newsday came out with the affair of (Serb) concentration camps. We jumped at the opportunity immediately. We outwitted three big Jewish organizations – B’Nai Brith Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish Committee, and the American Jewish Congress. We suggested to them to publish an advertisement in the New York Times and to organize demonstrations outside the U.N.

        This was a tremendous coup. When the Jewish organizations entered the game on the side of the (Muslim) Bosnians, we could promptly equate the Serbs with the Nazis in the public mind.

        Nobody understood what was happening in Yugoslavia. The great majority of Americans were probably asking themselves in which African country Bosnia was situated. But, by a single move, we were able to present a simple story of good guys and bad guys, which would hereafter play itself.

        We won by targeting Jewish audience. Almost immediately there was a clear change of language in the press, with the use of words with high emotional content, such as “ethnic cleansing”, “concentration camps”, etc. which evoked images of Nazi Germany and the gas chambers of Auschwitz. The emotional charge was so powerful that nobody could go against it.

        Question: But when you did all of this, you had no proof that what you said was true. You only had the article in Newsday!

        Harff: Our work is not to verify information. We are not equipped for that. Our work is to accelerate the circulation of information favorable to us, to aim at judiciously chosen targets. We did not confirm the existence of death camps in Bosnia, we just made it known that Newsday affirmed it.

        Question: Are you aware that you took on a grave responsibility?

        Harff: We are professionals. We had a job to do and we did it. WE ARE NOT PAID TO BE MORAL.”

        http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/pr-wars.html

        French Jew Bernard-Henry Levy who also pushed France into military action against Libya lobbied in France on behalf of Islamist Bosnian leader Izetbegovic.

        http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=9971

        “Siladjdzic revealed the effects of his Ruder Finn training in subsequent conversation with the French writer Bernard-Henry Levy, who had undertaken volunteer public relations for Izetbegovic in Paris. Silajdzic boasted naively of being a “star” in the United States, and claimed that he was able to change millions of votes by merely appearing on television. Silajdzic startled Levy by reproaching him for failing to exploit sufficiently the “propaganda” theme of “genocide”. This showed his “American side”, commented Levy”

        http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ruder_Finn%27s_work_for_Croatia

    2. ” Many jews are worried that in white majority countries they are at risk of being exterminated”

      Or this is what they say to try and justify their actions and shame people into not opposing them. This claim makes no sense. Jews have had a country they controlled for over 50 years and yet the majority of jews still chose to live outside of Israel. There are jews whose ancestors moved to Israel who have since moved to white majoirty countries. If jews are so concerned about being exterminated by white people then maybe they should all make Aliyah and leave us the fuck alone.

      As far as open borders and other shit being caused by white “anti-semitism”, I’d say it’s more of a “chicken and egg” type question.

      1. “For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a state in Palestine, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there. All they want is a central headquarters for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.” ~Mein Kampf, Volume I:

        Zionism is one giant scam.

      2. If jews are so concerned about being exterminated by white people then maybe they should all make Aliyah and leave us the fuck alone.

        Amen!

        1. @ Nazbol

          I’d say!

          To add on to what Wade said about how Jews should make Aliyah, I think there’s a reason why they don’t. As many people have pointed out, Israel relies on diaspora Jewry.

          The reason why Israel firsters like Alan Dershowitz, Abe Foxman, Charles Schumer, and Mort Zuckerman don’t make Aliyah is because that would limit their effectiveness when it comes to advocating for Israel. As American Jews, they can advocate for Israel using their clout in the media, government, and other institutions.

          If they were to make Aliyah, well, no more Israel lobby, at least not one with any significant power.

          (because I’m sure our good friend Aaron will be quick to highlight the Christian Zionists, as if they’re the ones determining U.S./Israel relations)

        2. BAG, I’ve come up with a catchy phrase to describe the Jew Zionist/Christian Zionist alliance. The Hick-Hebe Coalition.

        3. The Hick-Hebe Coalition

          Hehe, that’s a good one.

          Honestly, it’s hard to say which group I’m more disgusted with. On the one hand, the Hebe part of the coalition is more powerful and more dangerous.

          At the same time, the Hick part of the coalition is more contemptible. Jews at least support Israel out of a sense of ethnic nationalism and self-interest. While I detest the hypocrisy and the undermining of American interests that goes behind that, I can at least respect the sentiment.

          Hicks, on the other hand, support Israel out of religious fanaticism and stupidity, and support the agenda of people who look down on them as, well, backward hicks.

          As Obi-Wan Kenobi once said, “who’s the fool? The fool, or the fool who follows him?”

        4. @ BAG

          Your right about the Israel first Jews. Zionism is inherently parasitic and relies on western aid for sustenance. A litmus test for jews like Lapin and Jewamongyou would be their views on the aid sent to Israel every year.

    3. “So due to the actions of the nazis there are many jews who now work very hard to make white countries into multiracial countries. They do this for their own safety.”

      The funny thing about this belief is that it’s not supported by history. The Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires were very multicultural, and anti-Semitism was rampant in them.

      Meanwhile, the only country which really had an honorable record in the Holocaust – Denmark – was one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries on earth at the time.

  4. @ Bay Area Guy

    “I think Jews are going to have to play a big role in fostering this reconciliation.”

    I totally agree with you on that one.

  5. @ BaG

    All I’m saying is that you should be weary of any attempt at drawing a parallel between White nationalism and Zionism for the reasons I’ve outlined above. This may also cause WN to lose the moral high ground if it is associated with Zionism. Zionism is inherently parasitic and the only way they can keep up the racket is by suppressing White identity in North America. Zionist interests are diametrically opposed to WN interests. Frankly, in my eyes Jew among you seems as ridiculous as an Asian Santa.

    1. I very much like their platform. Their views on the economy, jobs, environment, and immigration I can definitely get on board with.

      Some of what they say is vague, for example their whole line about remedying inequalities so we can phase out affirmative action (which is already banned in California, so that issue should be irrelevant) by providing true citizens’ empowerment What exactly would this “empowerment” entail?

      They also call for an “involved” foreign policy that rejects both interventionists and isolationists. I wonder what this “involved” foreign policy will consist of.

      I’m also a bit skeptical about giving gays similar protection under “anti-discrimination” laws, because we all know what that will inevitably lead to (ie. gay activist or straight “allies” diversity consultants lecturing heterosexual employees on their “straight privilege” but I digress).

      But yeah, when it comes to securing our borders and stopping the H-1B invasion, pushing for American jobs and progressive economic policies, and other issues, I would definitely support this party.

      Of course, I think it goes without saying that they won’t get far in this rotten two party system.

  6. Cool. please sign up on their site if you want. Whats great is they have the memberb give feed back and are acrtive in regards to shaping the plafform, recruiting candidates, and giving candiates feedback. I am not sure if she is an official candidate but they have the group for Yeh Ling who is this Chinese women who is agaisnt mass immigration from the Bay Area. Seems their focus is economic populism with environmentalism and for limiting immigration.

  7. Under the platfor there is a post suggestion page and a suggest candidate page. Potential candidates so far are Jim Traficant, Paul Craig Roberts, Lou Dobbs, Frosty Wooldridge, and Dick Lamm.

  8. But do American Jews support “open borders”? At a higher proportion than the goyim, definitely. But I remember seeing survey data posted at alternativeright.com a while back showing that a large majority of Jews believe that there’s too much immigration. Also, there was that thing where about half of Jewish voters support the Arizona immigration law. So while Jews are relatively more pro-immigration, in absolute numbers they’re for immigration restriction. I’ll repeat my challenge to that pinko Marxist Robert Lindsay, and to any other commies around here: Look at socio-economic class. Compare Jews with non-Jews having the same education, income, etc.

    On the psychology, Robert’s right once again. Most of the comments here about what Jews supposedly think are just idiotic. It’s all monocausal explanations, a.k.a. the socialism of fools. There’s also a scent of a dumbed-down Kevin MacDonald here, sort of a vulgarized sociobiology of fools. What a bunch of…fools.

    P.S. My views on Israel and US-Israel relations, and on the paleo/radical right’s relation to those, are about identical to Paul Gottfried’s. Therefore, I am righteous, too. Worship me.

    1. Are you suggesting that many jewish people aren’t motivated at all be nervousness due to all the holocaust movies there are and all the holocaust stuff we learn about in school? I’m not saying all jews let that stuff motivate them to support immigration but a significant amount of them do, and I do agree that socio-economic status has a big impact on what jews think.

      Jews definitely have intellectual diversity and there are conservative as well as liberal jews and so ultimately the ideology is what is important and people should not scapegoat jews when it comes to immigration especially since the amount of white liberals supporting immigration far outweighs the amount of jews who do.

      1. I’m sayingthat the number of Jews who fear another Shoah in America is insignificant, and that most of those Jews are probably over 60- or 70-years-old. As I’ve said before, one exception might be the “born-again,” newly Orthodox Jews, but they’re insignificant anyway.

        I can’t prove that statement; nobody can prove or disprove it, because you can’t trust surveys on this kind of question. But practically the only talk I’ve heard about this subject is from anti-Semites themselves, like the bozos here. They seem almost obsessed by it.

        I’m also saying that some of the commenters here, like Dota and Bay Area Guy, are just disconnected from reality. They talk as if they have no Jewish friends or relatives or personal contacts, as if they’re talking about Martians or something. They’re just spinning crazy theories about the Jews in their heads. Their theories are effective at what they’re meant for – nurturing resentment, keeping boredom at bay – but they don’t correspond to reality. Of course, reality isn’t the point.

        1. @ Aaron

          My dear Aaron, I think you’ve got your head so far up your rear that you’ve provably chewed your food twice.

          For the most part BaG and myself attack organized Jewry. I don’t know about BaG, but I strongly believe that a lot of ordinary jews are not malicious but just plain dupes. I deconstruct Jewish rhetoric as it is echoed by various mouthpieces in the media regarding Darfur, immigration, civil rights ect… I also believe that induvidual behavior and group behavior are 2 entirely seperate things. As induviduals, Jews are remarkable people. I cannot think of any Jew that I’ve known personally whom I dislike. As a group however, they tend to put their own interests before those of their adopted homelands. I have never seen such behavior in any other minority, not in Asians, not in Africans and not in Latinos. I don’t take the tribe’s words at face value but rather observe their actions. A Ukranian friend told me years ago that he was cool with jews as induviduals, but as a group he distrusted them. Words to live by

          “But practically the only talk I’ve heard about this subject is from anti-Semites themselves, like the bozos here.”

          Feel free to leave. Personally I’d rather you stay just for the occasional comic relief.

        2. “As induviduals, Jews are remarkable people. I cannot think of any Jew that I’ve known personally whom I dislike.”

          Dota, You don’t have to like us. Believe me, we’re not THAT desperate.

        3. For your information, Aaron, I do have Jewish friends, and have known individual Jews throughout most of my life.

          However, like Dota, I distinguish between individuals and groups. I can get along with Jews on an individual level, but when it comes to Jews as a group (especially when politics are involved), I’m going to be skeptical.

          I can have individual Jewish friends and still think that organized Jewish groups like the ADL or AJC who pretend to give a shit about Hispanics are, well, full of shit.

          (kind of the exact opposite of the whole “my best friend is black” trope)

  9. My views on Israel and US-Israel relations, and on the paleo/radical right’s relation to those, are about identical to Paul Gottfried’s.

    Wonderful, if only most of your co-ethnics shared such sentiments.

    Therefore, I am righteous, too. Worship me.

    Also a bit obnoxious and patronizing, but you’re all right, Aaron.

  10. @BAG
    I’m curious you don’t mention Bro Kapner, Makow, Ben Freedman as jews who ae worthy, but mention Zionist neocon shitbags like Schiller and Levin.

    1. Well, I consider Bro Kapner, Israel Shamir, and Makow to have “left the plantation,” so to speak.

      The Jews I mentioned seem to be able to strike a balance between Jewish identity while simultaneously being pro-white.

      Realistically speaking, you’re going to find more Jews like them than you are Brother Nathanael.

      1. @BAG
        With all due respect, you’re becoming a bit naive with regards to these snakes.
        Who the fuck cares if they left the plantation, that’s a good thing! If they are ethnic jews who renouce that toxic identity of theirs and speak out against evil, I’m fine with them. But any kike who keeps his “identity” is nothing more than a repeat of the neocons back in the 1970s.

        1. Believe me Nazbol, I’m well aware of the neocons, and am well acquainted with the Jewish Question. I don’t think I’m naive, I’m just trying to keep things in perspective.

          I just don’t think that every pro-white Jew like Levin, JAY, or Schiller who supports Israel is an ipso facto hasbara agent who’s trying to ensnare WN’s the way others have been ensnared.

          Your point is well taken, but as I’ve said before, as long as Jews like JAY, Schiller, Levin, etc, support white causes, then as long as they don’t do anything to raise red flags, I don’t see why it’s unreasonable to accept them.

  11. I have to agree with Aaron’s statement that many of the comments here are ridiculous. As for the comments by Dota (AKA “Denise”), he should take the tinfoil of his head, sober up and lay off whatever he’s smoking. I have no “agenda” other than what I openly write about. There is no devious plot behind what I write and certainly no plan to undermine the white race. But I’ve written a lot and I suppose it’s not too hard for an industrious anti-Semite to extract statements out of context and build a case that I work for the Lizard people or whatever.

    1. Denise? Not sure who that is, but it’s hardly surprising that you’ve been called a fraud before.

      “There is no devious plot behind what I write ”

      Indeed. And Rabbi Lapin genuinely wishes a reconcilliation with Christians and the ADL wishes to create a peaceful, harmonious and tolerant society.

      “””I suppose it’s not too hard for an industrious anti-Semite to extract statements out of context”””

      Nooo not the dreaded A word! Anything but that!

      1. Obviously, you have a problem with Jews. What other word would you prefer I use? Would “Jew-hater” make you happy? Actually, I don’t care what makes you happy.

        1. What would make me happy would be watching you try and translate ‘Anti-semite’ into Arabic, Mandarin, Korean and Hindi 😀

  12. Robert, I don’t know if any mainstream Dem would come out and admit to being for open borders. But they will talk about “immigration reform,” which in context means mass amnesty for the illegals already here, and they’ll support the so called dream act, which essentially rewards illegals for being illegal. Also, it is definitely not okay in Dem circles to explicitly oppose open borders. And if you get further left, you are simply not allowed to question open borders at all.

    I volunteered with an interfaith community organizing group for a while, and I was disturbed by their open borders attitude and their romantic third worldism, but I thought I would continue to work with them on things that did not involve support for illegal immigration and immigrants, but soon everything had to do with support for open borders and free services for illegals in one way or another.

    It doesn’t help that many of the people who are most vocally opposed to open borders have repellent views on other things.

  13. “@ Aaron

    My dear Aaron, I think you’ve got your head so far up your rear that you’ve provably chewed your food twice.”

    I thought this was an original but then, I should’ve known better.

    By the way, is there anybody posting in this blog that can pass 12th grade Math? If so, I can give you some interesting problems I developed about basic hyperbolic triangulation. Solve that and I’ll accept that some people here have high IQ and can be taken seriously.

      1. Sorry if you failed. I could’ve helped you know. Now tell me if the following is generally true about the people posting here….

        Failed economics/science/math or any course that’s relevant to make a career nowadays. Decided to get a sociology/psychology/linguistics degree from a “liberal arts” or a shitty community college. Flip burgers/wait tables and vent anger on “right wingers” who are not paying up to cover the internet bill.

        1. No scum allowed! No dogs allowed! Rightwing dogs are banned from the site. Didn’t I already ban you, dog?

          You think “liberals” are “smart but poor” and hate the Right because they have money and we don’t. What a fuckin joke. I still keep seeing this filthy lie from you pieces of shit over and over.

          Now get the fuck off the site, DOG!

        2. No, La Fleur wanted to study Classics but I guess she didn’t have the means. She has expressed contempt for Liberal Arts because it is so intertwined with race and most people who choose them do so because they perceive them as cream puff majors.

          I hated Liberal Arts in high school as well, mostly due to the teachers. Most LA teachers at high school are egomaniac who failed to make it to the top in their field in university and chose not to find ajob elsewhere and they cannot deal with the fact that most of the students today are fatigued with insane political correctness, lack enthusiasm for LA’s and see the sciences/high tech/business as more relevant (and financially rewarding) than Liberal Arts, so they give absurd amounts of homework and give out grade arbitrarily on assignments, and squash any dissent, and try to bring promising science/high tech/business students down based on LA grades.

        3. Your sheer and utter hatred for White working class people is well noted. One thing I notice is that so many rightwingers just seethe with sheer hate for the working class. Now fuck off and die, DOG.

        4. I love credentialists. “What’s your IQ?” is to the HBD/right-wing basement dweller what “You’re a racist” is to Tim Wise.

          Some of my favorite artists didn’t do well in school at all. Bruce Robinson, the director of Withnail and I, failed the 11-plus exam, and he’s brilliant. I actually got good grades, but they’re not everything.

          After a short, fruitless search for a regular job I am happily self-employed again. With luck I’m done working for running dogs like Joe for good.

          See ya later, Mensabator.

  14. @ BaG

    “@ Dota

    Just curious, how did you come to develop your political and ideological orientation.”

    Whoops missed this one.

    With regards to the Tribe: Began with the first intifada. As I explained to Nazbol, I noticed a distinct pro Israel bias in the US media compared to the BBC (which has take a turn for the right in the last 8 years or so). I began my inquiry and the rest is history.

    With regards to White Nationalism: I have to be honest, I hated WN while I was in college, but after graduation things changed. I realized that WNs were the last line of defense against organized Jewry since Muslims are intellectually dead. Take my roommate for example, lots of anger, but zero intellectual force. I’ve also come to realize that should WN succeed, the west would gradually revert back to Victorian values, which is a good thing. Victorian society practiced conservative values which did not stifle creativity or art (Dickens, Chopin, Beethoven, Liszt need I go on?). In the Muslim world, conservative values come with a terrible cost. In the Eastern world, very few societies are able to strike that balance.

      1. Or JK Rowling, who used her initials as opposed to her full name to conceal her female identity so as not to turn off adolescent males.

    1. Dota with great respect the indians will show a tremendous leap forward with regards to balance. It is they who strike a good balance. One monday I go jogging and hiking around the country. On tuesday working with black kids in the slums of london etc. Every Saturday animal rights protesting. Striking a balance is what life is all about. It is good to strike a balance.

  15. I just watched this Woody Allen movie called FADING GIGOLO. Interesting description of life in what is known as “Jew York City” 🙂 – almost like a documentary.

    Robert, ever fucked a Jewess before? I heard they are big time nymphomaniacs. I find them very attractive.

  16. Jews aren’t the force behind open borders; it’s greed. Cheap labor is an effective tool against unions.

  17. Jewish news media, Jewish Hollywood, Jewish Wall Street, AIPAC, Jewish Federal Reserve, Jewish Dept. of the Treasury all seem bent on the destruction of my America. By pushing 3rd world immigration to make Christian white countries more like 3rd world trash heaps they threaten our survival. I suppose I’ll continue following some debates but I’m also outfitting myself and hoping that a tipping point will come in white awareness. It’s past time for decisive action.

  18. Open borders is insane. Even a kind hearted liberal can’t go along with it. It doesn’t make any sense at all.

    But I do think the real motive has nothing to do with Jews. See, the USA wants to keep revolution from breaking out in Latin America, so it allows Latinos a piece of the “American Dream” to pacify them.

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