A Concise History of the Recent Russia-Georgia Conflict

Excellent comment from a commenter about the recent Russia-Georgia conflict.

Russia had peacekeeping troops in South Ossetia as part of the agreement with Georgia from the 1990′s after the South Ossetian had won their de facto independence. The present government of Georgia disavowed that earlier agreement.

When the Georgians and South Ossetians got into an artillery fight, the Georgians sent in their army. As part of that attack, they targeted the Russian peacekeepers, so the Russians sent in their army to defend their peacekeepers.

The Russians advanced into Georgia for two reasons, to knock out artillery that the Georgians were using to bombard South Ossetia and to separate the South Ossetians along with their allies the Abkhazian armies which had advanced into Georgia from the Georgians. Once that was accomplished after a couple of days, the Russians retreated back to their former positions.

However, the Russians then took the step of recognizing the South Ossetia and their allies, the Abkhazians, and so now Russia has upgraded the Russian forces in these places from peacekeepers to combat troops, so they now have a couple of infantry regiments along with some artillery and AA weapons stationed there.

Sums it up quite well, I think. It is true that Russia plays geopolitics as far as secession is concerned, recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia and not their own Chechnya nor their allies’ Kosovo. But the USSR did let all of those republics go in the first place, one of the most progressive acts of recognition of self-determination that the world has ever seen.

Georgia has staked out a place since independence as hostile to Russia, for whatever reasons. For that reason, Russia supported the secessionists in Georgia. If Georgia would not have been hostile, then Russia probably would not have done that.

As someone who supports self-determination, I am happy that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are having their rights recognized. I believe that South Ossetia wants to join North Ossetia as “Ossetia” and become a part of Russia like North Ossetia is. Abkhazia, I believe, wants to become an independent country.

A commenter noted that Russia is trying to control that part of the world in order to control Europe. But the USSR controlled that part of the world for 74 years, and they never controlled Europe. I think that Russia just wants friends in that part of the world.

It is the US and some East Europeans who are treating Russia as a hostile nation, for no apparent reason, as Russia means us no harm and is not an enemy state; if fact, it wishes to be an ally. We along with our East European friends are surrounding Russia with bases and stationing defensive missiles in Poland. Both of those are hostile acts directed at Russia.

US imperialism is paranoid. It sees enemies where they do not exist and wishes to dominate as much of the globe as possible for unknown reasons, possibly as a form of modern mercantilist warfare to increase the profit share of US corporations and the wealth of America vis a vis the rest of the world. As the rest of the world is impoverished, the wealth of US imperialism is increased. US imperialism relies on the principle of vassal states of the US along with tributaries or supply lines to control the trade of the vassals and the US.

Russia does not have a hostile, beggar thy neighbor type imperialist project going on. Why this is I am not so sure, but possibly it is a residual holdover effect from the USSR. Russia seeks allies, and you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours relationships.

They have their own self-interest only in that they do not wish to be screwed by the machinations of US imperialism, which is trying to screw them out of markets and regional influence, in addition to threatening them with surrounding them with military bases and hostile states. Russia seeks co-existence, not domination.

I assume that the US’ hostility to Russia dates back to Soviet days. Even though the USSR fell and Russia entered the capitalist sphere, we still regard them as a hostile country due to the past.

But then US imperialism is very aggressive anyway. The super-imperialists around the neoconservatives, Rumsfeld and Cheney even said that Europe not an ally but a hostile competitor (“Old Europe”). They have written papers on the need to screw Europe out of various markets and whatnot. These papers treat Old Europe as an enemy region.

I suppose that an imperialist capitalist country can have no allies. The stage of US imperialism was set in the Truman Administration when George Kennan said that the US controls of 24% of the world’s economy, and it’s the duty of the security state to see that that gross maldistribution is not lessened even one percentage point.

If the world gets fairer and we don’t get such a huge slice of the pie anymore, the rest of the world gets richer and we get relatively poorer. It’s a fight over slices of pie. We get rich by keeping others poor. As others increase their share of the pie and get richer, we lose and get poorer. So US imperialism is dedicated to keeping the rest of the world poorer vis a vis the US in order to preserve our often ill-obtained wealth.

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  1. Rob, that quote was from George Kennan, not Dulles. And US hostility towards Russia dates back far earlier than the Cold War, back to Tsarist times. Due to kike pressure, for instance, President Taft reneged on a possible trade deal with the Russian Empire. Anglo-Jewry has ALWAYS been hostile to Russia in particular, and Slavs in general, because they are a deep-rooted people with an honorable culture who refuse to let themselves be enslaved by international finance/plutocracy.
    Henry Makow wrote that the origin of the British Empire was the marriage, both literally and figuratively, between kike finance and the British aristocracy.

    1. Anglo-Jewry has ALWAYS been hostile to Russia in particular

      Indeed. In fact, prior to Russia’s withdrawal from WWI, Jews were hesitant to support the allied powers because they despised Tsarist Russia for the way it treated Jews.

      Likewise, during the Russo-Japanese War, big Jewish banker Jacob Schiff gave around 200 million to the Japanese for this same reason.

      (although I guess you wouldn’t mind that so much, considering you admire the Japanese Empire. I know I’ve asked you this before, nazbol, but how can you, as a Korean, admire the Japanese empire?)

      Henry Makow wrote that the origin of the British Empire was the marriage, both literally and figuratively, between kike finance and the British aristocracy.

      Anglo-Jewry, in terms of finance and the press, were heavily involved in British imperialism.

      In fact, during WWI, the Balfour Declaration (ie. British declaration calling for a Jewish state in Palestine) was issued (in large part) as an attempt to get powerful Jewish bankers such as Rothschild on their side.

      1. Jacob Schiff also lent money to Adolph Ochs enabling him to purchase the New York Times. Control over the media was essential in drawing the US into 2 European blood baths. The Tribe has cartainly kept busy the past 100 years.

      2. Over 90% of all Jews in this country support the Democrat agenda. Over 90% of the least intelligent and least responsible and least moral Americans ALSO support the Democrat Party. These are the low-life imbecile Negros – low-life imbecile Hispanics and the low-life imbecile rednecks ( no – I didn’t say good country folks).

        This collective mob of lazy non-productive brain-dead ‘eaters’ – are ALSO VOTERS! The Jew utilizes them to follow their bidding as easily as a gang leader controls his thugs – by promising ANYTHING They want to hear. Not surprisingly – these social detritus morons are the backbone of all labor unions as well. They are incapable of independent thought – or of reason – or of wisdom or rational conduct – just intimidation and violence!

        http://mynameisjoecortina.wordpress.com/2011/01/15/why-celebrate-martin-lucifer-king-jr-day-an-endless-disgrace-to-all-decent-americans-lose-it/#more-355

        1. Heg- you’re wrong about some stuff here (not the Anglo-Jew connection, tho.)

          I’m guessing you don’t live here- if you did, you’d know…

          The liberal Democrats in America are a motley mix- a lot of highly intelligent, over-educated, elitist types, with a good amount of not-so-smart minority types. And some more working-class types.

          The dumbest ones, however, DON’T VOTE, in general. In fact, they can be found in our prisons and jails and street corners. Most jail-birds profess rather conservative notions- NOT KIDDING.

          Among people of color- usually only the smarter, and sometimes more conservative ones vote at all. (Exception for Obama- they all came out for him- even youth. It won’t happen again, probably) And some vote Republican for moral issues- abortion, gays, etc.

          On the other hand, virtually ALL the stupid white folks (your lovable country types) are conservative- and a lot of them vote Republican, unfortunately.

    2. Henry Makow wrote that the origin of the British Empire was the marriage, both literally and figuratively, between kike finance and the British aristocracy.

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      A link to that thank you

      heg

      1. Heg

        here you are:

        “The Jewish banking families made it a practice to marry their female offspring to spendthrift European aristocrats. In Jewish law, the mixed offspring of a Jewish mother is Jewish. (The male heirs marry Jews although the Victor and Jacob Rothschild are exceptions .) For example, in 1878 Hannah Rothschild married Lord Rosebery. who later became Prime Minister. In 1922 Louis Mountbatten, the uncle of Prince Philip and cousin of the Queen married the granddaughter of Jewish banker Ernest Cassel, one of the wealthiest men in the world. Winston Churchill’s mother, Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome, was Jewish. By the beginning of the 1900s, there were very few English aristocrat families left that hadn’t intermarried with Jews. It was said that, when they visited the Continent, Europeans were surprised to see Jewish looking persons with English titles and accents.

        According to L.G. Pine, the Editor of Burke’s Peerage , Jews “have made themselves so closely connected with the British peerage that the two classes are unlikely to suffer loss which is not mutual. So closely linked are the Jews and the lords that a blow against the Jews in this country would not be possible without injuring the aristocracy also.” (Tales of the British Aristocracy1957, p.219.) ”

        http://www.henrymakow.com/000447.html

  2. In the summer of 1933, the Jewish Agency for Palestine, the German Zionist Federation, and the German Economics Ministry drafted a plan meant to allow German Jews emigrating to Palestine to retain some of the value of their property in Germany by purchasing German goods for the Yishuv, which would redeem them in Palestine local currency.

    This scheme, known as the Transfer Agreement or Ha’avarah, met the needs of all interested parties: German Jews, the German economy, and the Mandatory Government and the Yishuv in Palestine.

    The negotiations between the Zionist movement and official representatives of Nazi Germany evoked much wrath. In retrospect, and in view of what we know about the annihilation of European Jewry, these relations between the Zionist movement and Nazi Germany seem especially problematic.

    Even then, however, the negotiations and the agreement they spawned were profoundly controversial in broad Jewish circles. For this reason, until 1935 the Jewish Agency masked its role in the Agreement and attempted to pass it off as an economic agreement between private parties.

    One of the German authorities’ principal goals in negotiating with the Zionist movement was to fragment the Jewish boycott of German goods.

    yadvashem.org = Jew Only source.

    http://www1.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%203231.pdf

  3. The US/NATO engineered Georgia conflict was just the latest desperate attempt by the Empire to annex the North Caucasus from Russia.

    Nebojsa Malic said it best when he pointed out the fact that the attack against South Ossetia was a replay of US backed Croatian attack against Serb Krajina during Operation Storm with the assistance of private US military contractor MPRI staging a provocation as a pretext to the ethnic cleansing of South Ossetia.

    http://slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg042409.html

    http://www.antiwar.com/orig/browne.php?articleid=13294

    The same MPRI were training George forces in sabotage techniques.

    Actually the operation was to ethnically cleanse South Ossetia as draw Russia forces into guerrilla warfare trap in Georgia just like Afghanistan and Chechnya trafficking foreign jihads from the Gulf states issuing them Georgian passports.

      1. @Gay State Girl

        Yes it’s true also NATO conducted a joined military exercise in Georgia under the auspicious of anti-terrorism drills and EU and Ukraine bulk sold Georgia mass amounts of weapons prior to the attack.

        There is amazing new information and development’s regarding our Norwegian terrorist friend Mr Brevik who wants to launch a crusade against was recruited by a former Valery Lunev, a former colonel of Belarusian special forces and convert to Islam who is married to a relative of the first Chechen president Dudaev , pan Turkish ideologue and affiliate of the Gladio era Grey Wolves in Turkey who is responsible for trafficking weapons and fighters using military and special forces from ex Soviet block countries into Chechnya to fight Russian forces who currently is part of a major western offensive to overthrow the government of Lukachenko in Belarus.

        They even think Brevik might have a connection to the Minsk metro bombing earlier this year.

        Mr Brevik is starting to sound like Mohammad Atta western intelligence assets who were both linked to western intelligence/military operations in Chechnya.

        1. Correction meant to write ” ..crusade against Islam in Europe” and – the first “a former” before Valery Lunev. Bad editing.

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