IQ and Crime in the US Redux

Repost from the old site.
This is follow-up to an earlier post – Black Crime and Intelligence – An Intrepid Investigation. No matter how much Leftists and liberals deny it, there are clear differences in racial crime rates in the US. US Hispanics and Blacks have higher crime rates than Whites in the US in the same way that Asians have lower rates. It is neither controversial nor racist to report on this observable fact.
The usual Left explanation for elevated Hispanic and Black crime rates is poverty, lack of opportunity, unemployment, low rates of educational attainment, lack of government investment and poor schools in poor Black and Hispanic neighborhoods. The general rationale behind all of these is said to endemic White structural racism and discrimination against Blacks and Hispanics.
Another argument is that Blacks and Hispanics do not have elevated crime rates – it is only that racist police racially profile Blacks and Hispanics to stop and search them more often, resulting in higher arrest rates, while Whites who are just as criminal are let off the hook.
These appealing arguments are becoming harder and harder to sustain in the face of new evidence and rapidly decreasing White racism in US society. This decline has occurred in tandem with harsh penalties – social, occupational and monetary – against Whites who discriminate against non-Whites, continuing affirmative action programs, quotas and goals, judicial mandates for ethnically diverse schools and workforces, etc.
All of this has resulted in a White population whose recent thinking has been molded by anti-racist discourse and who consciously try to avoid overt anti-White discrimination and even bigotry most of the time. This is actually a good thing. Each and every human being should be evaluated and treated on their individual merits or demerits, race be damned. And, regarding crime, the judicial system should be fair with regard to suspects and arrestees.
One problem in getting a handle on racial differences in crime rates is that it has been very difficult to find good ethnic breakdowns of US crime rates, mostly because law enforcement agencies usually refuse to count Hispanic offenders at all or in any rational way.
The Color of Crime, a report by the frankly racist New Century Foundation, is nevertheless an excellent document that has managed to dredge up some good figures for Hispanic, American Indian and Pacific Islander (in the US, they are about 50% Hawaiian, 25% Samoan and 20% Chamorros on Guam and in the US Micronesian Territories) crime rates in the US.
Samoans and Hawaiians are Polynesians, but Chamorros are Micronesians. Hawaiians are well-known to have an elevated crime rate in Hawaii. For instance, Hawaii has the highest rate of theft, larceny and property crime of any state. It is a good guess that much of this stealing is being done by native Hawaiians.
In (independent) Western Samoa itself, recent reports describe a traditional society with a crime rate is extremely low.
But statistics from 30-40 years ago tell another story.
In Western Samoa in the mid-60’s, the rates of assault and serious assault were 400 percent and 40 percent higher, respectively, than the rest of the US. In 1977, Western Samoa had a murder rate 60 percent higher than the rest of the US. In American Samoa the rate was much higher – 460 percent higher than the rest of the US.
In general, the Samoan crime rate in the rest of the US is not known. However, Samoans are over-represented in juvenile hall in San Francisco, and across the bay in Alameda County, Samoans have a higher crime rate than Hispanics.
And in Micronesia, on Guam at least, the crime rate has gone through the roof since the 1960’s, whereas previously it was quite low. The breakdown of the nuclear family and the introduction of a money-based economy has been blamed for the crime explosion on Guam. Saipan is also now reported to have a high crime, and even murder, rate. The reasons are not known.
It has been idiotically bashed all over the Left as “racist”. Here is a typical argument, this one from Wikipedia:

One New Century Foundation’s publication, The Color of Crime, makes various claims about the relationship between crime and race. The publication concludes that black people are more dangerous than white people, just as “young people are more dangerous than old people” and “men are more dangerous than women.” It claims that is logical to take precautions around black people.

The SPLC has led attacks against the report authored by the execrable Heidi Weiss, leader of an attack force against the fine scholar Kevin MacDonald. The attacks by Tim Wise on ZNet are quite sophisticated. An excellent rebuttal of many of Wise’s main points can be found on Global Politician here.
Bottom line is that Wise appears to be disputing what seems obvious to most any non-Leftist with a brain: Black people have a dramatically elevated crime rate, and one is more likely to be victimized by Blacks than by Whites, no matter what one’s race is.
Furthermore, Wise’s characterizing of Jared Taylor as a “White Supremacist” is as problematic as calling 99% of US Jews “Jewish supremacists” based on their Zionism. How about “White Nationalist”? And it is grossly unfair of Wise to call Taylor a Nazi, especially since he renounces anti-Semitism.
Wise is an anti-racist activist. I am an anti-racist too, but facts are facts.
Despite the fact that The Century Foundation authored the report, The Color of Crime is excellent, and attacks on the report do not do it service. Those opposed to the report are asked to logically rebut its arguments or hold their tongues.
The best figures are towards the middle of the report. Of most interest are the overall Hispanic and Black crime rates. The report states that the Black crime rate is 7.4 times the White rate, the Hispanic rate is 2.9 times the White rate and the Indian and Hawaiian rates are about 2 times the White rate.
From another study, Masking the Divide, by the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives (actually a liberal think tank), the figures are a bit different: the Black crime rate is 9.1 times the White crime rate and the Hispanic crime rate is 3.7 times the White crime rate.
Combining the two reports, we get a Black crime rate 8.2 times the White rate and an Hispanic crime rate 3.3 times the White rate.
The Color of Crime found that poverty, unemployment and lack of education add little to the Black and Hispanic crime rate differentials compared to the White rate – that is, when Whites, Blacks and Hispanics all live in poverty, have the same low educational variables and the same unemployment rates, the differential between Blacks and Hispanics as opposed to Whites remains pretty much the same.
The report also effectively deals with familiar complaints from the Left that the Black crime rate is so high because police selectively target Blacks for arrest while ignoring White criminals. A careful examination of the data in the report, shows that, actually, looking at the whole picture, if anything, the system is somewhat prejudiced in favor of Blacks and against Whites.
There is a suggestion that Blacks are actually underrepresented, and Whites, overrepresented, in the nation’s prison population as compared to their actual crime rates. Hence, prejudice and discrimination does not appear to be a significant factor in Black crime rates.
Further, Blacks are much more likely to target Whites as crime victims than vice versa.
An incredible anecdote: In a 3-year period in the US, there were 9,000 cases of group Black on White sexual assaults – about 10 per day. In that same 3-year period, Whites, with a 4.5 times greater population, committed exactly zero group sexual assaults on Blacks. That figure alone is simply stunning.
The Left loves to talk about hate crimes, but the only hate crimes they are interested in are White hate crimes against non-Whites. The report makes it quite clear that Blacks are much more likely to commit hate crimes against Whites than vice versa.
What is fascinating is that the media plays up White on Black hate crimes for weeks on end as the crimes of the century, while Black on White hate crimes are met with deafening silence. That right there would seem to give the lie to the notion that the US media is hopelessly prejudiced against Blacks and in favor of Whites. If anything, the opposite seems to be the case.
I have no idea why Whites are so much less likely to commit crimes than Blacks or Hispanics, or even why the lesser differential between Whites and Amerindians and Hawaiians exists, nor why Asians commit crimes at dramatically lower rates than Whites. Some will talk about genes and others about culture.
Lining up IQ with crime rates seems entirely logical to me. Groups with lower average IQ’s should commit more crimes than those with higher IQ’s on an ascending linear scale.
Unfortunately, the results do not pan out very well. Let us look at some racial IQ scores followed by racial crime rates in the US:

IQ scores:
East Asians:1    106 (link)
Whites:          103 (link)
Hispanics:       89 (link)
American Indians 87 (link)
Blacks           85 (link)
Polynesians      85 (link, link and link).
Crime rates:
Asians:      78% lower than Whites (!)
Whites:      Baseline
Amerindians: 100% higher than Whites
Polynesians: 100% higher than Whites
Hispanics:   230% higher than Whites
Blacks:      720% higher than Whites (!)

The racial IQ scores and racial crime rates do not line up very well; there are some correlations, but there are also some problems. The small difference between East Asian and White IQ’s in the US would not seem adequate to explain an Asian crime rate that is a mere 22% of the White average.
The Hispanic crime rate is 65% higher than the Amerindian and Polynesian crime rates, yet Hispanics have significantly higher IQ’s than both groups . The Black crime rate is an incredible 310% higher than the Amerindian and Polynesian crime rates, despite the fact that all three groups have the same IQ’s.
In these cases, there is absolutely no correlation whatsoever between IQ and crime. There is a modest correlation between crime and IQ between Whites, Blacks and Hispanics, but the differences are completely out of sync with what we would expect merely based on IQ.
In particular, the Black and Hispanic crime rates are far higher than expected by IQ compared to Whites2 (especially looking at the Polynesian and Amerindian figures), and the Black crime rate that is 2.5 times higher than the Hispanic rate is dramatically higher than expected by IQ compared with Hispanics.
Furthermore, we can completely rule out IQ-crime links in Hispanic mestizos . How is it that Amerindians have a crime rate 2 times that of Whites, yet White-Amerindian mixed race people (Mestizos with an average of only 1/3 Indian blood and probably a good amount of heterosis) have a crime rate of 3.3 times that of Whites? That makes no sense whatsoever.
One would expect White-Amerindian mixed-race US Mestizos to have a crime rate median between Whites and Amerindians and probably closer to Whites, say 1.35 times the White rate, considering that Mexicans and Chicanos in the US are about 63% White on average.
Also, from 1960-1995, the Flynn Effect3 has been causing steadily increasing IQ’s in Americans of all ages and ethnic groups. During this period, the US population increased its IQ by 9 points. At the same time, crime exploded from 1960-1980 and has continued at a very high level ever since.
How is it that a steadily rising US IQ has coincided with a skyrocketing crime rate?
The Flynn Effect has had its most noticeable effects at the lowest end of the IQ range – precisely the people that are most likely to commit crimes. Nevertheless, wild crime increases occurred in tandem with a progressive loss of those very people most likely to commit crimes – those with the very lowest IQ’s.
All of this seems to indicate that whatever in God’s name is causing racial differentials in US crime rates, IQ does not seem to play a huge role. Perhaps other biological factors could be involved, but that seems dubious.
For instance, there are recent suggestions that Polynesians (the study looked at Maoris) may be predisposed to violence due high rates of an a gene that codes for low levels of a component – MAO inhibitor – that breaks down neurotransmitters in the brain associated with violent and impulsive behavior.
With lower levels of the MAO inhibitor, Polynesians have higher levels of catecholamines that tend to cause violent and aggressive behaviors.
It is likely that Polynesians selected for aggression during their colonization of the Pacific Islands. Without an aggressive temperament, they may not have been able to undertake mad, near-suicidal journeys on boats to colonize those islands in the first place.
Once on the islands, individual tribes of South Sea Islanders, especially on Fiji and New Zealand, were continuously locked in the most horrible tribal warfare with most of their neighbors, in addition to having downright brutal and vicious societies of their own.
No evidence has yet been presented of a Black or Mestizo genetic propensity to violence. How is it then that the Polynesian Polynesians, with their low rates of MAO-inhibition, have a dramatically lower crime rate than Blacks and Hispanics, who have no provable genetic links to crime?
Very well then. Having disposed of biological arguments, let us move along.
I am inclined to fall back on the old environmental standby – culture. Even if poverty, lack of education and unemployment have little to do with high Black and Hispanic crime rates and the role IQ is not dramatic either, there is yet another explanation:
There is a possibility that in recent years, both Blacks and Hispanics have developed an underclass culture that is simply criminogenic in and of itself. The hows and whys of the development of this underclass can be debated at length, but it’s existence seems uncontroversial, and whatever caused this sick culture, IQ or race itself do not seem to be at work.
See this website, Brown Pride , for an example of a depraved, wicked and amoral subculture operating in the Hispanic underclass.
This Black and Hispanic underclass contrasts with large numbers of Blacks and Hispanics who have “made it”, assimilated to proper US society, are employed and out of poverty, and have relatively low crime rates.
1. The only data available for Asian IQ’s in the US are for East Asians. This group logically includes Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Ainu, Taiwanese, Mongolians, Tibetans, Hmong, Mien and some smaller groups, but we do not know if all these groups were included. Studies in the US usually focus on the first three groups. It is quite difficult to draw a line showing where “East Asians” end and “Southeast Asians” begin.
2. Let us suppose a linear relationship between Hispanic and White IQ’s and crime rates. Extrapolating that to Black IQ, we should get a Black crime rate 4.9 times higher than the White rate; instead the rate is 8.2 times higher. Assuming a linear relationship between Black and White IQ’s and crime rates, we should get an Hispanic rate that is 5.4 times the White rate; instead it is 3.3 times the White rate.
Differentials between White, Hispanic and Black rates alone cannot be fully explained by IQ. Either the Black rate is higher than expected, or the Hispanic rate is lower, or both.
3. The Flynn Effect has been subjected to a lot of criticism, typically emanating from those White Nationalists who refuse to believe that anyone, especially the Blacks and Browns they dislike, is getting smarter. A number of arguments have been put forth, one of the most powerful of which is that the Flynn Effect does not show an increase in intelligence; it just shows that people are getting better at taking tests.
Yet the Flynn Effect shows up as early as 4 years old. One wonders just how many rigorous tests the average 4 yr old has been subjected to? Furthermore, Flynn himself presents some interesting arguments that cast doubt on the test sophistication argument.
Furthermore, in dismissing the Flynn Effect as simply measuring “some abstract test-taking ability”, these same detractors pour cold water on IQ tests themselves, the results of which they so cherish, as they show the delightful 10 and 15 point gaps between Whites and Browns and Blacks respectively. The consensus now is that test-taking skills cannot explain the Flynn Effect.
Another argument is that the Flynn Effect is having little effect on “g”, a hypothesized, supposedly heavily genetic or biological factor of purported pure, raw intelligence.
However, the Flynn Effect is greatest on the most heavily loaded g tests, and much less on the least g-loaded tests. Either “g” means nothing, or “g” is also increasing. Note that there is good evidence that “g” is in fact increasing, and a good theory is that it is related to improved nutrition. More evidence linking nutrition to IQ is found in studies linking IQ with micronutrient levels, namely iron , in the blood.
This is because height has been increasing in tandem with the Flynn Effect (not only that but socialist states are making people taller than less socialist states), and so has head size and cranial capacity and even brain size. This provides an excellent underpinning for increases in the biologically-driven “g”.
Hybrid vigor, or heterosis, which has been increasing, much to the disdain of White Nationalists, has also been suggested as a prime driver of the Flynn Effect. Heterosis has supposedly been increasing in modern society as more isolated, rural and ethnocentric populations move to urban areas and have children with those outside their ethnic group. But Flynn himself completely pours cold water on the heterosis theory.
A very long (24 pp.) discussion about whether or not the Flynn Effect is valid and what it is measuring is here. The American Scientist also took a look at the subject in a much-quoted article.
Steve Sailer wraps it up in a recent post, suggesting that the Flynn Effect shows people are definitely getting smarter, but only in certain ways. Sailer is not even really a White Nationalist, as he advocates “citizenism” as opposed to ethnic ethnocentrism. This is close to the universalism advocated by this blog. His site is always interesting, and it worth a read.

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30 thoughts on “IQ and Crime in the US Redux”

  1. Regarding Timmeh, according to his Facebook page he
    knows that his new book — an open letter to white America –is going to be the most direct, uncompromising, and yet readable book I’ve ever written…which means folks who don’t like it will need to — imagine this– actually fashion arguments against it, as opposed to attacking me personally and threatening my life…
    Has he ever met a straw man he didn’t like? Many people have written serious critiques of Wise’s work, yet he never responds to them. He responds only to WN nutjobs and other people to his right.
    It looks like the Gene Expression people managed to fashion an argument:
    http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/004046.html
    Furthermore, in dismissing the Flynn Effect as simply measuring “some abstract test-taking ability”, these same detractors pour cold water on IQ tests themselves, the results of which they so cherish, as they show the delightful 10 and 15 point gaps between Whites and Browns and Blacks respectively.
    Agreed! It’s ludicrous. So much for hard-nosed impartiality. It looks to me like IQ tests are good for measuring certain kinds of intelligence, such as which people should go into STEM majors.
    Off topic, what do you think about “g”, which they’re so in love with, when there are large gaps between verbal and math skills? In school I was always 99th percentile in English/reading and half that in math. That’s a pretty big gap.

    1. g is crap. g is just IQ. All it is is a correlation of IQ tests. It’s very complicated, but g is a correlation factor delineating the tendency of a person who does well on one test to do well on other tests too. If you do well on half the tests but not on the other half the tests, you don’t do well on g. It’s totally crazy.
      Suppose you had a decathlon. One team 1 did great on half the competitions, and poor on the other half. The other team 2 did well on all the competitions. Team 1 got the highest score. However, Team 2 would be awarded the win because they got the highest g score. Are you following me? The team that won would be said to have lost because they did not do well on all of the tests ,only on half of them.
      g is IQ. To split them apart into two separate things is just madness if you ask me, but the debate is extremely complex.

    2. an open letter to white America –is going to be the most direct, uncompromising, and yet readable book I’ve ever written…which means folks who don’t like it will need to — imagine this– actually fashion arguments against it, as opposed to attacking me personally and threatening my life…
      Oh, boy!
      Timmy REALLY needs to read Rules for Radicals. The problem with Uncle Tim is that he writes what is emotionally pleasing to him without keeping his audience in mind. Alinsky warned against that, as well as against becoming a true believer.
      The only people inclined to agree with his aggressive, uncompromising style ALREADY agree with him in the first place.
      If he were really interested in reaching the white masses, he’d alter his rhetorical tactics. But as Thad would point out, it seems he’s more interested in maintaining his anti-racist credentials in the eyes of those who already agree with him.
      Many people have written serious critiques of Wise’s work, yet he never responds to them.
      Could you post some links to them?
      But yeah, Tim Wise always includes in his articles some anonymous email or commenter from an extreme white nationalist, and then uses the idiocy of those extreme WN’s to denounce EVERYONE who disagrees with him.
      He did that when he tried to backtrack from his “tick tock” temper tantrum.
      Tim Wise ought to look up “strawman” in the dictionary.
      But back to Timmy.
      which means folks who don’t like it will need to — imagine this– actually fashion arguments against it, as opposed to attacking me personally and threatening my life…
      Wow. Really, where does he get off thinking that most white people even THINK about him, much less go out of their way to read his book? Does he REALLY think that they’re even going to BOTHER taking the time to read his book and then attack him?
      He’s really a self-indulgent and arrogant prick. Even some of his supporters like Tulio admit that he’s overbearing and sanctimonious.

    3. LaFleur
      Females tend to do better in English and Males in Math, simple as that. I have an male brain though. My math scores were in the 90th percentile but my English scores were in the 75th percentile and I scored a 30 point gap between my Verbal IQ (122) and my Performance IQ (92).

      1. Ah yes, he responded to Shannon Prince with his usual know-it-all condescension. Well, maybe I shouldn’t say usual. He refrained from his usual nasty ad hominem attacks since she is black.
        But his attempt to explain away his classism is something else.
        First off, I did not suggest that all fascists wear What
        Would Jesus Do armbands, like NASCAR, live in small towns or drink cheap beer.

        I said simply that if fascism comes it will be ushered in by folks such as
        these, because without the support of the masses—who have often been lulled
        to sleep by mass media elites and others—such a system cannot materialize.

        But that’s PRECISELY what he did in his original article.

        1. http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-how-fascism-comes-reflections-cost-silence
          If fascism comes, it will spring from the soil of middle America, from people known as values voters but whose values are toxic, from simple folk whose simplicity, far from being admirable, is better labeled ignorance, from “all-American” types whose patriotism is a dagger pointed at the very heart of the national interest, for it so forsakes all the best principles upon which the republic was founded, choosing instead to elevate and ratify the narrow-mindedness, the bigotry, and the intolerance that also marked our country’s origins.
          If fascism comes, it will be ushered in by tailgaters at the big football game, by Joe Six Pack, who, upon finishing his sixth beer and belching forth the stench of a mediocre life lived , will gladly announce its arrival, so long as it comes with a steady supply of Pabst Blue Ribbon and hot dogs on the grill, and giant foam hands with a “We’re Number 1” finger, some Mardi Gras beads and a good titty bar.
          If fascism comes it will dress like a hockey mom, or a NASCAR dad. It will believe Toby Keith to be an artist, Larry the Cable Guy to be a comic, and that the world was made in six literal days less than 6000 years ago.

          Oh yeah, he was really just “describing how the elites would need the masses to usher in fascism.”
          Bullshit. He was attacking your average middle American white as a brain dead hick.

        2. Let’s see, condescending, elitist, aggressive, quick to label everything fascist.
          Who knows? Maybe he really is Jewish! 🙂

        3. I mean, Tim Wise is just an idiot.
          On the one hand, he wants to reach the white masses, and yet at the same time insults whites (particularly small town, rural whites) as ignorant, insular, bigoted hicks.
          Yeah, what a good way to win them over. Tell them that they’re a bunch of depraved pieces of shit, and that you in fact are an authority on their lives, who knows more about them than they know about themselves.
          He’s really a piece of work. I wouldn’t care about him if it weren’t for the fact that he gets paid by the establishment.

        4. @Gay Area Guy
          LOL

          Hehe, yeah, couldn’t resist a good Jewish joke, especially considering that Timmy Wise isn’t a real Jew, yet embodies so many of their qualities.

        5. I have no problem with half jews of patrilineal descent calling themselves jews or half jews (some jews get really passionate about who qualifies a jew) but he only uses it for political gain. I wonder if he and Philip Weiss are landsmen as they both invoke their supposed jewish identities to appear more relevent thanthey actually are.

        6. I think the whole issue of Tim Wise’s Jewishness is a reflection of his arrogance and self-indulgence.
          He deliberately plays up his Jewishness, and then uses extreme WN attacks on his Jewishness as a way to further play it up.
          The way I see it, he either isn’t a Jew and is dishonestly playing it up for political/diversity points, which makes him a disingenuous fraud.
          Or, he really is a Jew, which invalidates his right to speak for whites.
          (yes, I know, Jews are technically white, but I don’t consider them white white. Jews who strongly identify as Jews tend to despise the white goyim and see themselves as separate from them. Jews are also quite different from most other whites in many regards)

        7. Without wanting to open up the whole “are Jews white?” debate, I just get frustrated because it seems that a lot of white Jews want to have their cake and eat it too.
          When they want to speak for whites and act as white insiders, they emphasize their whiteness. But when they want to claim to understand how blacks and other “oppressed groups” feel, then all of a sudden they play up their Jewishness.
          Also, considering how hostile Jews are towards white gentiles, even if they look white/are technically white, I have trouble considering them as such.

        8. First off, I did not suggest that all fascists wear What
          Would Jesus Do armbands, like NASCAR, live in small towns or drink cheap beer.

          No, he suggested that all people who wear What
          Would Jesus Do armbands, like NASCAR, live in small towns or drink cheap beer are fascists.
          Recall that the majority of the white working class do not vote at all. They assume correctly that neither party works for their interests. People who exhibit the “white trash” signifiers that Wise lists are no more or less incipient fascists than anyone else. Working class white people are much more likely to actually live near, work with or socialize with non-white people than yuppies like Wise.
          It is interesting how often Wise, whose father was an alcoholic, focuses on alcohol as a class signifier. Great (not good) wine was at the top of the list of things he expressed gratitude for at Thanksgiving. His frequently expressed disgust at the consumption of cheap beer marks him as a SWPL through and through. No one from a working class background gets that uptight over what kind of beer someone drinks, for God’s sake.
          This article was truly disgusting in its classism. It makes me angry every time I read it.

        9. Gay Area Guy
          Yes and no. The ultra liberal jews (the reform movement is well known for its emphasize on multiculturalism) are still very much PC. But most of these jews have moved on from zionism. If I recall correctly, Richard Silverstein even declined to identify his family as “white” on the 2010 census.
          The neocons and Orthodox jews have made it a point to pander (or at least pay lip service) to the anti PC movement and of course to the religious right. they know they’ll get nowhere with ethnic minorities.

        10. Gay Area Guy
          Orthodox jews have less in common with whites on a cultural level but most identify as whites for their own interest. Ultra Orthodox jews tend to live in the inner city in poorer neighborhoods and they are more exposed to crime than secular jews who live in affluent suburbs or expensive Manhattan neighborhoods. I come from a Modern Orthodox background, and I can assure you that all my parent’s friends are fatigued by insane political correctness.

        11. His frequently expressed disgust at the consumption of cheap beer marks him as a SWPL through and through. No one from a working class background gets that uptight over what kind of beer someone drinks, for God’s sake.
          Yeah, I highly doubt that Tim Wise actually grew up poor/working class, as he claims.
          Just as he makes up his Jewishness, he makes up his supposed white trash status.
          I’m surprised nobody has exposed him as the pathological liar that he is.

        12. @ GSG
          I actually don’t mind Orthodox Jews, at least in the U.S. (in Israel they’re fucking insane, not that I care one way or another). They tend to mind their business, and focus on their religion.
          The Jews I primarily have a beef with are secular/ethnic Jews. By the ADL’s own admission, very few of them are actually religious, and yet are still obsessed with their Jewishness.
          Religious Jews I don’t mind. Ethnic/racial Jews are the problematic ones.

  2. I do like this one comment from the Sailer article:
    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/09/my-review-of-james-r-flynns-what-is.html?showComment=1189151640000#c3513557436846900765
    You’ve hit on a train of thought that counters the stark conclusions intelligence researchers all tend to draw from their empirical (s/b value neutral) evidence. This I why I get so frustrated with the rat race mentality of people who can see nothing else than a Darwinian disaster in the making for those who don’t have a small set of skills that will get them the jobs of the future. If these thinkers were the least bit creative or insightful they might see that the opposite outcome could be equally possible. A disaster that crashed our infrastructure would make programming skills obsolete. Can these skilled highly linear thinkers create an economy in the face of chaos or even fix their own cars when they can’t afford a mechanic?
    The more specialized we get as producers, the more vulnerable we are to a natural or manmade disaster in some country halfway around the world that we’ve become dependent on to grow our food for instance. A Chernobyl in China or Mexico would contaminate the food supply. At this point, we can still revert but if the globalists have their way, not too many generations in the future there might be social unrest and starvation as we try to remember how we used to go about growing and distributing our own food.
    On a more individual level, we are more than our professions. Some of those who theorize about the value of IQ only think of people in terms of the kinds of jobs they can get and place them in a hierarchy based on how much money these skills command hence the rat race. You must give your child the best quality education possible focusing on the “right” skills ie math and science. Then you must be able to afford 4 years at an Ivy League college so that jr can command the best salary as a computer programmer, researcher, etc where jr will work 60 – 80 hrs a week, get married at age 28, have 2.5 children with his similarly skilled wife. They in turn will provide their offspring with the best education possible leading to acceptance to an Ivy League school, etc, etc, etc.
    Any other life plan or outcome is a sign of inferiority. You and your offspring are in danger of marginalization and will eventually die as a victim of gang violence in the crime/minority infested neighborhood that’s the only place they can afford to live. Adapt and be miserable or die! Those are the only two choices.
    ………….
    I have a feeling this push towards educating students to excel at the latest technology at the expense of all other abilities has contributed as much to our malaise as a society as the emphasis on experimenting with drugs, sex and violence in popular culture. Kids learn early whether they have the aptitudes for the careers that “really ” matter. For many reasons, they’re also not taught to do things for themselves that pre-1965 generations did – home repair, car maintenance, for girls sewing, growing food often even cooking goes by the wayside. Then they are left totally at the mercy of the kind of salary they can command as adults. I’m not saying such skills can save a person from economic disaster but they can certainly help when money is scarce and could even make a person employable if illegal immigrants hadn’t been allowed exclusive rights to such jobs.
    I could continue in this vein but I won’t. Suffice it to say that I don’t think someone’s quality of life s/b solely determined by their ability to compete for a certain type of job. It’s gotten to the point that being hardworking and resourceful are just considered traits that make a person uniquely qualified to be a low wage worker, sort of like a faithful, obedient pet who can be depended upon to get your paper from the end of the drive, rain or shine. It doesn’t have to be this way. And these dire predictions that I hope aren’t part of Flynn’s work lead me to conclude that genius is much more than an intelligence quotient.

    The whole comment is worth reading. It would fit in quite well under Sailer’s discussion today of David Brooks’ latest column:
    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/01/david-brooks-wants-obama-to-announce-in.html
    David Brooks wants Obama to announce in his State of the Union Address that America is no longer a nation, it’s now going to be a cross between the Admirals Club at JFK and Amy Chua’s house.
    I agree with Sailer here. In a deindustrialized America, what does Brooks plan to do with all the native workers who aren’t cut out to be the next Mark Zuckerberg? And what’s so “creative” about an economy based on Facebook, Twitter, and the FIRE sector?
    Sailer’s commenters, on the other hand, seem confused about what constitutes a leftist or liberal. I guess you can at least partly blame the SWPLs and cultural leftists for that.

    1. There is something terribly wrong with IQ fetishists. Terribly terribly terribly wrong. I have a genius IQ but I doubt if many people would want to live my life. In many ways, I am an idiot. I realize I’m a fool, but I can’t cut it out. IQ is only so much. It explains how fast you brain works. What it doesn’t explain is just about everything important about that individual. A lot of high IQ folks are complete assholes. What good did their high IQ do them anyway? It’s nearly worthless.
      For one thing, my genius IQ has never gotten me a woman. Not one, not ever. It’s actually a hindrance in some ways. I almost think it’s an anti-aphrodisiac for women. Not only does a high IQ not turn women on, I’m convinced it actually turns them off. There’s a part of me that says what the Hell good is it anyway?

      1. “It’s actually a hindrance in some ways. I almost think it’s an anti-aphrodisiac for women”
        I do too. I think that higher IQ can make a man too cautious for some women. It can also make them too self conscious and hesitant. Many don’t like someone who thinks, but someone who does. Many like these dumb thug types. Also, smarter men may be somewhat more difficult to manipulate.

  3. Really though, when Timmy can write an article without calling non-like-minded zealots mentally ill, poor readers, or nazi pieces of shit, I’ll be impressed.
    He’s quite juvenile in his approach. The fact that he gets paid good money by corporations and news networks really frightens me.

    1. The blog Stop Me Before I Vote Again is very good at mocking pious merit class liberals.
      I thought this was a perceptive comment on the noxious brew that is identity politics mixed with corporatist academia:
      http://stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/2011/01/department_of_happy_family_stu.html#comment-627635
      I think where MJS and I agree is that the inculcation of decent values isn’t going to happen in the educational system. The environment is so violently wrong for the purpose that it makes a mockery of the intent. The addition of professionalization and managerialism, as a reform, is almost too ludicrous to be ridiculed. One end result is thousands upon thousands of Tim Wise clones, feverishly trying to out-sanctimony their competitors, jockeying for lecture gigs and hectoring people about privilege and purism.
      There’s something ridiculous about professionalizing “anti-racist” activism, which is what the whiteness studies racket has done. Wise pompously refers to his career as “the work” like he’s on a holy crusade, but it’s a fucking job he got a degree for, like engineering or cake decorating or something.
      It’s the same with the corporations that sponsor speakers like Wise. There’s something infuriating about a corporation that can chew you up and spit you out at any time assuming it has some kind of business peering into the thoughts in your brain.
      The Moor had Wise’s number:
      The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe.

  4. @BAG
    I still don’t get why an ethnicity that originates in the freakin’ Levant is considered “white.” When most people say “white”, they’re referring to Europeans, or northern Europeans more ideally, since some southern Euros look heavily Middle Eastern.

  5. “Very well then. Having disposed of biological arguments, let us move along”
    You didn’t dispose of the genetic, biological, or IQ arguments. You just showed that they were insufficient the explain all of the differences.
    When it comes to IQ, whether or not IQ differences have a genetic basis is a separate issue from whether or not IQ differences between subpopulations (ethnic, racial, religious, or economic) explain some of the differences in crime rates between those subpopulations. As it is, we know that differences in IQ positively correlates with crime on the individual, county, state, and national levels. Likewise we know that some ethnic/racial differences positively correlates with crime and negatively correlates with IQ on the individual, state, and national levels [1,2]. It is, therefore, not unreasonable to suppose that the low IQ of some subpopulations (given mediating and moderating factors) explains some of the high crime rates. Liberals in fact, disingenuous as always, make this case when they argue for a national perry project [3].
    As for genetic differences, it’s improbable that some of the different rates of crimes between some ethnic/race/class subpopulations don’t have a genetic basis — given specific reaction ranges. We know [4,5], for example, that NE Asians are genetically predisposed to be more communal and studious (as mediated by culture) than Whites and Blacks given a certain reaction range; and we know increased communality correlates with lower incidences of individual (though not collective) crime.
    What about black people? Everything seems to come down to “what about black people?” Is it not possible that Africans one average are less domesticated [6, 7] than Europeans and Asians? After all, leftists do call them “vibrant” and “full of culture” as opposed to stale and white bread– which always sounds like the Nietzschean dichotomy between the weakly, overrefined, over-civilized element and the robust, animalistic, cultural element.
    If that’s correct, given the incarceration rates, which presumably weeds out the wild elements, African will be domesticated in a few generations — and you’ll get you bourgeois Black class fairly soon.
    [1] Bartels et al 2004. Correlations between estimates of state IQ and FBI crime statistics; Rushton andTempler, pending review. IQ, Pigmentocracy, Crime, and Income in 50 U.S. State http://www.isironline.org/meeting/pdfs/2010_program.pdf
    [2] Bartelsa, Ryana, Urbana, and Glass, 2010. Correlations between estimates of state IQ and FBI crime statistics
    [3] Heckman, 2010. A New Cost-Benefit and Rate of Return Analysis for the Perry Preschool Program: A Summary
    [4] Harpending and Cochran, 2002. In our genes
    [5] Beaver et al., 2010. Three dopaminergic polymorphisms are associated with academic achievement in middle and high school
    [6] Pinker, 2009. Why is there peace?
    [7] Frost, 2010. The Roman State and genetic pacification.
    (Domestication would imply lower levels of individual, not collective crime)

  6. There’s evidence that Black and Hispanics burn sugar in their blood more efficiently (warm culture) than most Whites-Asians (cool cultures). Blacks have this inbred and can do “sprint” type exercises much better than most races because than can burn glucose. Basically, people that have a cultural history with hundreds of years, of primarily living indoors, versus outdoors in the sun, have this distinction.
    Basically, don’t give blacks and hispanics a diet of high “sugar” foods or refined carbohydrates which leads to an overproduction of Insulin, which in turn leads to lower blood glucose levels, that then eventually creates a “brooding” and “violent” state of mind. Crime has a relation to Glucose tolerance which is genetic.
    As soon as a “minority” leaves their home country and becomes “American” — if they don’t have the same diet, they may be predisposed to becoming criminals. IQ is definitely related to this as well. Smart people feed their kids better and on a regular schedule. Related is the Type-2 diabetes growth in the West versus the home country.
    Diet, Crime and Deliquency:
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1753-4887.1986.tb07683.x/abstract

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