Gay State Girl asks:
RL: In many other countries in the world, university education is either very cheap or even completely free. And it’s often high quality too.”
I take serious issue with free university education. You yourself have placed a lot of emphasize on the importance of high IQ’s and have said many people shouldn’t go to college. I can understand that although the college experience is very much a right of passage in American culture.
But why should someone of a lower IQ pay taxes so that some pompous ass can get a bunch of advanced degrees in some invented liberal arts field at a first rate university with state of the art equipment and end up contributing nothing to society while they continue to work menial labor jobs for the rest of their lives and get no respect for it. You still haven’t answered my question.
We do things for you; you do things for us.
To me, this is the socialist motto.
The working classes (and everyone else, by the way) pays for university education through their taxes. That university education is available to them also, by the way, if they wish to take advantage of it. In states around the world where there is free university education, I’m not aware that working class people complain much along the lines that GSG is. In fact, show me one country where working class folks complain about paying taxes for universities they don’t use. I’m not aware of a movement like this anywhere on Earth.
I think GSG is being disingenuous here. She comes from an upper middle class or even wealthy family. They are hardly working class. I think she resents having to pay for liberal arts jerkoffs at university, and she is projecting her Don’t Tread on Me crap onto working class people.
What we are really looking at here is You help us out, we help you out. Working class folks help the university bound go to college, and university grads, with their high paying jobs, give quite a bit of their income via taxation to help working class people take care of their needs.
Ideally, university education ought to be free through the graduate level in a socialist society. The idea of having to pay for a public education is perverse and sickening. When I went to college around 1980 and again in the early 90’s, it was mostly rich people going to university. Obviously, this is because it costs a bundle to go to college in the US.
Sure, there are grants and whatnot, but I could not make use of them, and my parents had to shell out a ton of money so I could go to school. They were just regular middle class people. Why should they break the bank to send their kid to college? Fuck that.
So in bourgeois society, the rich and well-off tend to go to college, while the poor and working classes do not, despite all the loans and scholarships and Pell Grants and whatnot. The price rises higher and higher every year. This can only be based on a “university education is a privilege, not a right” model.
University Education is a Human Right, If You’re Smart Enough
In a free public education model, unfortunately, there would be a limited number of seats. Those seats would go to those with the best grades. Or you could test to get in. The highest ranking scores in grades or entrance exams would get in. This would mean that universities would be full of the smartest kids but not necessarily the richest kids as they are today. That means less intelligent kids don’t get to go to college.
We could amend this by saying that if one’s grades and or entrance scores were too low, you could pay full tuition and go to college anyway and see how it goes.
This model may run into funding problems. Ideally, university education ought to be based on an ability to pay, sliding fee model. Ability to pay and sliding fees will never work in bourgeois America, because Americans side with the rich and the rich have always run this country from Day One. The rich will not support a sliding fee model for university education and will say that the people going there for free or at reduced rates are an “entitlement program” or welfare program that needs to be cut.
Nevertheless, a sliding fee model has many advantages. I’m wondering if any sane country anywhere on Earth has not been completely controlled by the rich such that they could implement an ability to pay model for university education?