New BS from Kevin MacDonald

The increasingly anti-Semitic Kevin MacDonald has a new article up about the fascist and Czarist Solzhenitsyn’s new book about Russia and the Jews. The 19th chapter has just been translated. The book is the usual anti-Semitic palaver from Solzhenitsyn.
The Jewish neocons and Cold War liberals have always had a tough time with Solzhenitsyn. They loved him for bashing their hated USSR, which they hated mostly because it would not let many Jews emigrate to Israel and because these US Jews were now lined up with the US in the Cold War. So the fascist Solzhenitsyn was their hero, but at the same time, he was an anti-Semite! Oh, how to deal with this condundrum. The Jewish Cold War liberals and neocons simply avoided this difficult question by refusing to discuss their hero’s anti-Semitism.
There is also a photo of a “Holodomor victim” in the article. It is probably from the famine of 1921, as that is where most photos of “Holodomor victims” are from. Visitors to the famine region during the famine noted that people were well-dressed and rations were very tight. One visitor noted one obviously malnourished young boy standing in line with his mother to get rations. No one else was obviously malnourished. As noted, most deaths were due to disease anyway.
There was no Holodomor. The Holodomor – the deliberate terror famine that murdered 5-10 million Ukrainians – simply never occurred. What occurred was a famine harvest followed by a famine in all of the USSR. Yes, 5 million died, not usually of hunger but of disease epidemics due to weakened immunity, but it was not deliberate. The harvest simply collapsed that year.
MacDonald says that Jews were less than 1% of the Soviet population. I thought they were 3%?
The USSR was surely not “the most murderous regime in history” though I suppose you can play around with definitions of the word murder. How about Hitler’s Germany? The “most murderous regime in history” is often used by anti-Semites and pro-Nazis to defend their beloved Hitler. The argument? Stalin was worse than Hitler! MacDonald is surely an anti-Semite, and he also seems to have pro-Nazi sympathies (note his statements for the defense in the trial of Holocaust Denier David Irving).
Further, there were no “15 million murdered peasants” in the 1930’s. A lot of people died, but those figures are excessive.

Executions:                800,000
Dekulakization in Ukraine: 390,000
Gulags:                   ~500,000
Totals:                   ~1.7 million

With the famine:

Famine:                    5.3 million
Executions:                800,000
Dekulakization in Ukraine: 390,000
Gulags:                   ~500,000
Totals:                   ~7 million

As this was occurring, life expectancy rose wildly and the death rate collapsed, compared to Czarist Russia. So the deaths and killings were occurring in tandem with the greatest humanitarian life-saving project that the world had ever seen.
The comments that follow the article in the Occidental Observer of which MacDonald is an editor are the usual wildly anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi White nationalist nonsense.

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  1. I guess the question of Kevin McDonald is simply, which came first? Was he an anti-Semite to begin with, or was he pushed in that direction by years of non-stop attacks against him? Is it not a chicken or egg type of situation?
    I am no expert, but he does seem to be fudging a lot of the numbers relating to the Soviet Union in this case. Is he trying to paint the Soviet Union as ultimately Jewish run, and hence any excess human suffering within it directly related to their leadership and control?
    I’ll have to go read about Solzhenitsyn, since this is all really new to me, and interesting.

    1. I’ve read his earlier stuff and he did not seem very anti-Semitic at all. He seems to be getting worse and worse over the years. I also interviewed him and I did not feel he was an anti-Semite at the time. On the contrary, I thought he was fascinated by Jews and envied them. He was also a very nice, warm, friendly guy. We had a very pleasant conversation.

      1. how would you describe his earler persona and work? I understand how anti-semitism works because I have gotten into it for a phase. what happens is people start out just critical of Israel or organized Jewry and Jews flip out and call them anti-semites. If Jews are going to attack you and call you anti-semites the attitude is they might as well go all the way and become ones. Thats what happened with MacDonald Jews at the ADL and SPLC tried to ruin his career and get him fired for his work so he went into to ful blown anti-semitism and WN.

        1. He started out somewhat Jew-critical, but he was willing to work with Jews. Much of his early work was simply factual. It is hard to find anything in there about Jews that is incorrect and in some ways, his analyses of Jews is absolutely right on and perfect. He was simply telling the truth about Jews. What’s wrong with that?
          Well, for telling the truth about Jews, the Jews went stark raving batshit insane on MacDonald and launched a fucking Jew Jihad against him. They call him a fraud, a liar and said all of his work was nothing but lies. They held conferences about him and then they launched a huge campaign to get him fired from his professor job in Long Beach.
          After that, he’s gotten a lot more anti-Semitic, is now an editor of anti-Semitic publication, the WN Occidental Observer, and is a founding member of the openly racist American Third Position party.
          I think the Jews turned MacDonald into an anti-Semite.

    2. At least the EU has shown guts for once and stopped the passing of a stupid Communist crimes denial law.
      The European Commission has rejected calls from eastern Europe to introduce a so-called double genocide law that would criminalise the denial of crimes perpetrated by communist regimes, in the same way many European Union countries ban the denial of the Holocaust. Last week six countries wrote to Viviane Reding, the European justice commissioner, calling for the “public condoning, denial and gross trivialisation of totalitarian crimes” to be punished. Foreign ministers from Lithuania, Latvia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and the Czech Republic said communist crimes “should be treated according to the same standards” as those of Nazi regimes, notably in those countries with Holocaust denial laws.
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/21/european-commission-communist-crimes-nazism
      @Cyrus
      Is he trying to paint the Soviet Union as ultimately Jewish run, and hence any excess human suffering within it directly related to their leadership and control
      Yes the Bolshevik coup was a western backed mass Jewish bloodletting given the overwhelming evidence which even Jews themselves admitted at the time.
      If Stalin had not come to power Trotsky and these other international Jewish white supremacist racists would have significantly eliminate the Russian majority population.
      It was under Stalin’s orders that many historical Russian churches and buildings were preserved and off course major infrastructure projects.
      @Robert Lindsay
      The Stalin killed more people than Hitler crap is pretty much the standard narrative in the west and if you seriously tried to say otherwise especially in academia or in the mass media you would be attacked relentlessly.
      How exactly is Solzhenitsyn a fascist or an anti-Semite?
      I don’t follow his return to the Old Believers pre-Peter the Great idea but it is a fact the Jews were behind, created and ran the Communist system in Russia and became the new elite and that negative reactions towards Jews in the Russian empire was largely due to their group behavior be it economic, criminal or political.
      I have never read Solzhenitsyn putting any racial connotations towards Jews.
      And it is western Jews themselves like Anne Applebaum, Heritage foundation, Forward magazine, etc that are pushing for alleged Stalinist era Communist crimes in the mass media.

      1. If Stalin had not come to power Trotsky and these other international Jewish white supremacist racists would have significantly eliminate the Russian majority population.
        Can you suggest a good source on this? Is there a biography that discusses Trotsky wanting to eliminate the Russian majority?

        1. I’m just uneducated about early Soviet history in general and the parties involved. Can you recommend a good basic history?

  2. Dear Robert
    The Soviet Union had far fewer Jews than tsarist Russia. After 1920, a lot of the tsarist Jews ended up in Poland, in Rumania and in the Baltic countries. Don’t forget that between 1920 and 1939, Poland included parts of what now is White Russia and the Ukraine.
    Have a good 2011. James

  3. I’m just uneducated about early Soviet history in general and the parties involved. Can you recommend a good basic history?
    Not really, no. I have not read a lot of books on it myself. I have mostly just read online. I would say just read around.

    1. Don’t bother with anything by Solzhenitsyn or anything but any Western rightwingers or Cold Warriors. Most of that is pretty useless.
      Richard Pipes wrote a lot in this area, but I’m not sure how good that stuff is. He’s the father of Daniel Pipes.

        1. I guess his work is ok. The problem with most Western Soviet scholarship is that almost all of it is written by Cold Warriors who absolutely hated the USSR. So, is it accurate or not? I’m not sure, but the people who wrote it were very biased. Many of them were working for the CIA. I’d rather read something written by someone who did not hate the USSR.

      1. “Don’t bother with anything by Solzhenitsyn or anything but any Western rightwingers or Cold Warriors. Most of that is pretty useless. ”
        Wow, so everyone you don’t like is “useless”? I don’t really like “Cold Warriors” either, but that’s just plain unscholarly. Also, there is no way I would class Solzhenitsyn in with the “cold warrior” capitlaists. I’m sure that they apalled him in many ways too.
        “Richard Pipes wrote a lot in this area, but I’m not sure how good that stuff is. He’s the father of Daniel Pipes”
        I’ve read Richard Pipes’ “Russia Under the old Regime”, his condensed book on the Russian Revolution, and parts of his “Russia under the Bolshevik Regime”. I think they’re interesting a nd sound in many ways like much else I’ve read about Russian history, at least older Russian history, but I wouldn’t completely trust him unless you hear something similar from another author. It must be remeber that Pipes is a Cold War jew. It must also be remembered that people say his son in insane.

      2. Richard Pipes LOL! because that is a unbiased source.
        http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Pipes_Richard
        Pipes is an anti-Russia Jewish supremacist and whose son Daniel an ardent Zionist is at the forefront of Muslim bashing apart from where they are most active and support US interests of course like Chechnya, Bosnia, Central Asia, Xinjing, etc. and has a long history of pro Jewish activism who believes that Russia itself and “Russian nationalism” is the fundamental problem which of course the Communists and their backers also believed.
        As quoted in 1995 in the book Russian nationalism since 1856: ideology and the making of foreign policy by Astrid S. Tuminez
        “To feel truly and proudly Russian, Russians…instinctively strive toward expansion and its corollary militarism.”
        In fact he is a member of the ACPC a Washington government elitist pro-Chechen lobby group in Washington.
        http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/American_Committee_for_Peace_in_Chechnya
        Are you a Neocon Robert?

  4. “Anti-Semitism is a disease.
    You catch it from Jews”
    Good one. Also, semitism is a disease. Apparently you catch it from your mother.

    1. There is no anti semitism without Semitism…The very existence of a Jew is a disease to healthy society
      Jew is a name of Diseased Race which inflicts on Unsuspecting nation…The nation which welcomes the parasite race is Destined to Die with disease and pestilence..
      Jew is eternal,his spirit exists to create the kingdom of hell on earth…The very existence of the parasitic race is antithetical to everything in Nature.
      Jew is antithetical to Nature…All his ideas and ideologies will harvest disease and anti-semitism where ever he walks

  5. I sort of respect MacDonald. Robert’s more or less said what I feel about him; his work on the jews is pretty good, and someone needs to say it, but he DOES seem to be a white supremacist racist, and have some at best garbled political perspectives along the ‘things were better when everyone knew their place’ lines. Everything else about that OO blog is appalling shite.

  6. Histories of the Russian revolution:
    You can find W.H. Chamberlain’s books here for cents or dollars.
    http://tinyurl.com/2unqm9v
    As far as I can make out there’s 2: 1917-18; and 1918-21 which includes the civil war. There’s also 1917 -21, which I suspect is a single-edition of the other 2 books combined. There’s a helpful review. Eric Hobsbawm recommends these, but Chamberlain is not a commie – but not a cold-war propagandist either.
    Also Marc Ferro:
    October 1917: Social History of the Russian Revolution
    and
    The Russian Revolution of February 1917
    both very cheap on Amazon.com
    I confess I haven’t read these, but they sound the most impartial I’ve found. Give Pipes a miss; he sounds very urbane and civilised but that’s his job – he’s a propagandist.
    A sceptical modern history is by Orlando Figes – ‘ A People’s Tragedy’, much loved by the MSM hacks. I’ve only dipped into this, but it’s actually much fairer than you’d expect. Definitely one to read with an awareness of his biases, and not to take as the last word.
    Pro Communist, there’s of course the perennial favourite John Reed’s ‘ Ten Days that Shook the World’, which seems to be at least well thought of by everyone.
    Also:
    Warsaw 1920: Lenin’s Failed Conquest of Europe by Adam Zamoyski
    and on the same thing Norman Davies: White Eagle, Red Star: The Polish-Soviet War 1919-20
    Both these authors have a distinct pro-Polish bias.
    Very interesting, and incredibly knowledgeable, but heavy going is Arno J. Mayer’s ‘
    The Furies: Violence and Terror in the French and Russian Revolutions
    Does anyone know of even ONE good book on the Russian civil war? I mean, what do all these commie academics DO?

  7. Oh, and not to forget the ONE book that everyone should read on the twentieth century, which explains the significance of the Russian revolution and the Soviet Union (whatever its flaws) and the tragedy for us all of its demise in 1989. It’s short and very very readable.
    Michael Parenti – Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism.

  8. Lafayette – Thanks for the reading suggestions. I’ve been meaning to check out Parenti. I do have the Figes book, though I haven’t read it yet.
    I agree with you about MacDonald. I’m curious about his books, but he seems to have gone over the edge. Also, I don’t think I’d want to live in an ethnostate with many of his posters. One of them said recently that it was the role of the white working class, the volk, as he put it, to be fleeced by the white elite and to enjoy it. No thanks, bro. A lot of those guys seem to think they’re going to be awarded their own voivodeship after the race war. These alternative right blogs are crawling with cube slaves who fantasize about a return to shit like monarchism, and none of them think they’re going to be the peasants.
    I’m all for celebrating and preserving the great things about European culture. Reading blogs like TOO, though, it appears that the best argument against white nationalism is white nationalists.

    1. ” One of them said recently that it was the role of the white working class, the volk, as he put it, to be fleeced by the white elite and to enjoy it.”
      Yeah, these neo-“nazis” are really just a bunch of libertarians who had black people and jews.
      “A lot of those guys seem to think they’re going to be awarded their own voivodeship after the race war.”
      The funny part is that manyof these types are the same ones people like Hitler would sterilize.
      ” These alternative right blogs are crawling with cube slaves who fantasize about a return to shit like monarchism, and none of them think they’re going to be the peasants.”
      Well. I don;t want to return to monarchismm, but I don;t agree with the constant bashing of it. It had its time and performed well in many cases, but it just won’t work in today’s world, at least not in any meaningful capacity. The modern british monarchy is a joke compared to Queen Elizabeth. Many people don’t even know that the monarchs of the Netherlands and Spain even exist. Let’s also be fair. America may have thrown off the monarchy centuries ago, but can one say that we have really thrown off the aristocracy? They don’t call them Boston Brahmins for nothing. Of course now you have to add the Manhattan “chosenites”.

  9. La Fleur
    Maybe traditionalism is in danger but European culture is not. The white race is not going extinct any time soon.

    1. “Maybe traditionalism is in danger but European culture is not. ”
      Yes, European culture is in danger. Traditionalism goes far beyond mere forms of government. In america we don;t get the full view of things. One of the things I like about the French National Front is that they not only talk about the danger islamization poses to European Culture, but also the danger amercan pop “culture” poses to it. If you hate traditionalism so much what do you wish to see it replaced with? Wiggers and porn? It would be better for the continent to be depopulated than for that to happen.
      ” The white race is not going extinct any time soon.”
      Oh yeah! They’ll still be white people around! Of course they’ll all be a bunch of mindless wigger jewpawns, but they’ll still be here! Yea!!!!
      Honestly, I really couldn’t give a shit about the white race. I care more about preserving cultures, ethnic groups, and civilizations. If people married those of similar cultural backround, then things like white nationalism wouldn’t even be needed to preserve different phenotypes. The only reason I go into race topics at all is because of affirmative action and other aspects of american society. Also, not even all European descended caucasoids even live in Europe and are not European, so them having children would not protect European culture. White nationalists in america and other non-UK anglosphere countries don’t get that they’re not Europeans.

      1. Oh yeah! They’ll still be white people around! Of course they’ll all be a bunch of mindless wigger jewpawns, but they’ll still be here! Yea!!!!
        Yeah, honestly speaking, if that’s how the white race remains, then they’re not WORTH saving.
        Although I’ll still try to knock some sense into their thick skulls, and hope that they’ll see the light (literally and figuratively).

  10. It is not legitimate to dismiss writers on the Soyuz, or for that matter the Jews, because of the visibility of their biases. You will not find any outside of open love or open hate for their subject, and claims to objectivity are generally dishonest grabs at credibility preparing a brazen attack or endorsement. For example, Pipes’ earlier stuff is still used and is pretty good. Like any other source it must be deconstructed. He got worse as he got older and by the 1980s his stuff was clumsy anti-Russian hate crap, citing Tsarist-era proverbs as an example of inherent race traits to be expected in modern State Socialists.
    Anything by Orlando Figes is outstanding. Figes is sort of the latest star of Russian/Soviet history scholarship. Figes, incidentally, is easily in the “hate” pile, but his stuff is great nonetheless.
    As an example of a “Soviet lover,” with what looked like a good deal of objectivity nonetheless, the excellent, short, readable and exciting (even if it is about metallurgy) “Behind the Urals” describes the time an American spent working for Stalin’s upramping war machine just before Barbarossa. It describes the daily life of the workers (pretty miserable), popular discontent reacting to earlier “affirmative action” style minority privileging, clumsy propaganda (a theatrical play in which Hitler personally interviews saboteurs, giving direct advice on how best to do EEEVILLL), staggering mismanagement (a massive precision thing from Germany is left to rust in a pit because it was impulse-bought), superior living conditions for foreign advisers (in surreal little Stepford neighborhoods), the Jewish market-cornering style of management (there is one Jewish guy who runs the site at a desk with ten telephones, right out of Hollywood), and an example of a Soviet worker’s annual vacation (!).

  11. Thanks K & Y. You’re always good for book tips. I’d heard of these books but I’d forgotten about them. I still read Niqnaq but I’m not talking to RB – he’s just too rude!

  12. I doubt any Communist book would seriously a critical evaluation Jewish psychology and group influence both in Russia and abroad and other minority groups within the Soviet apparatus.
    Given the background of the alleged pogroms was the result of anti-terrorist raids, financial and criminal exploitation against the Orthodox peasantry might explain the state atheism and bloody reprisals with outbreak of the civil war and the new Communist state.
    Never mentioned that the Marxist terrorist group that killed Tsar Alexander II was Jewish which resulted in a mass pogrom in the South.
    “Utin was followed by a great number of Jews including Mark Natanson, the founder of the Russian Narodnik movement, Paul Axeirod who together with George Plckahnov and Vera Zasulitch formed the “Triumvirate” of the founders of the Russian Social-Democratic movement in 1883, Rosalie Bograd who married Plekhanov, Meir Molodetsky, Gregory Goldenberg, Mw Deutch, Vladimir Jochelson, Aaron Sundelievitch, and Hesya Helfmann, who was among those sentenced to death for the assassination of Czar Alexander.”
    — Philip Mendes, THE NEW LEFT, THE JEWS AND THE VIETNAM WAR, 1965-1972, Lazare Press, North Caulfield, Victoria, Australia, p 10 from information found in: Parkin, A.L. The Origins of the Russian-Jewish Labour Movement. F.W.Cheshire Pty Ltd. Melbourne. 1947. pp8O-84; Feuer, Op Cit, pp157-158; Ascher, Abraham. “Pavel Axelrod: A Conflict Between Jewish Loyalty and Revolutionary Dedication” in Russian Review 24 1965, pp249-265; Schapiro, Leonard. “The Role of the Jews in the Russian Revolutionary Movement” in Slavonic and East European Review 490 (Dec 1961), pp 148-167.
    There is ZERO book that detail the massive western support really since the end of the Crimean war for sponsorship of Marxist terrorist groups.
    I have an old book of my parents that is has key newspaper headlines and stories from 1900 to 89 with one during the Jap-Russian war that the Russian Navy sank a Norwegian cargo ship secretly transporting supplies to the Japanese.

    1. “…but it is a fact the Jews were behind, created and ran the Communist system in Russia and became the new elite and that negative reactions towards Jews in the Russian empire was largely due to their group behavior be it economic, criminal or political.” – This is not a fact. This is a 70-year-old myth and you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
      “Utin was followed by a great number of Jews including Mark Natanson, the founder of the Russian Narodnik movement, Paul Axeirod who together with George Plckahnov and Vera Zasulitch formed the “Triumvirate” of the founders of the Russian Social-Democratic movement in 1883, Rosalie Bograd who married Plekhanov, Meir Molodetsky, Gregory Goldenberg, Mw Deutch, Vladimir Jochelson, Aaron Sundelievitch, and Hesya Helfmann, who was among those sentenced to death for the assassination of Czar Alexander.” – When I Googled this, I got 71 results – all of them the same. Leonard Schapiro pushed this myth as well – he said 50% of the leadership was Jewish when it was clearly not – and though he was published in a journal, that doesn’t make him right, especially since the state archives directly contradict him. It seems Jews like to overrepresent themselves in the USSR, when they did not control it in the least. A few NatSocs took the bait, said it was Jewish, and everyone from WNs to other Jews jumped on the bandwagon. While you /can/ find some Jews in the Revolutionary movements, it only appears they run them, because people are deliberately putting them out there.
      I would suggest reading stuff by Grover Furr, or perhaps look around on the Russian side of the Internet, because bro, you are buying the garbage.

  13. I have an old book of my parents that is has key newspaper headlines and stories from 1900 to 89 with one during the Jap-Russian war that the Russian Navy sank a Norwegian cargo ship secretly transporting supplies to the Japanese.
    While this is entirely possible, several superficial thoughts oppose. They include:
    Surely this was a Swedish ship (Sweden dominated Norway and placated Norwegian hatred of Sweden with a British-style “union,” it even had an awesome composite flag like the Union Jack made of opposite elements of Swedish and Norwegian crosses)?
    General journalistic standards at the turn of the XIX-XX centuries.
    The same, but especially when the national prestige of a great empire is at stake.
    What exactly would the Japanese need, especially from Norway?
    Also consider that the really decisive thing about Port Arthur was this absurd distance, Russia finding out the hard way that it wasn’t Britain. Japan struck hard and fast because it was right there and ready; Russia sent a fleet around the world trying to relieve a doomed siege. So here we have unneeded supplies for the Japanese that would take even longer.
    We think this one story is crap, and it seems to be part of a Great Russian tradition, a kind of blasphemous Russian Jewishness — everybody is always out to get us, because we’re so great, and if we hadn’t been held back by their blackest evil, we’d be delivering the Earth to Utopia ages ago. The Irish have a variant, as do the blacks. It’s hilarious whoever starts smoking that.

    1. I am going from memory from an article I read 2 years ago so I can remember exactly what the article said I will have to look for it but it was a cargo ship from some European country.
      I will have to look for the article again.
      We think this one story is crap, and it seems to be part of a Great Russian tradition, a kind of blasphemous Russian Jewishness — everybody is always out to get us, because we’re so great, and if we hadn’t been held back by their blackest evil, we’d be delivering the Earth to Utopia ages ago. The Irish have a variant, as do the blacks. It’s hilarious whoever starts smoking that.
      But it was Britain that helped industrialise Japanese Navy to attack Russia and British Jewish banker Jacob Schiff financed the Japanese during the war.
      In fact the British Empire undermines any country who goes against their interests and pose a rival force.

      1. ”…But it was Britain that helped industrialise Japanese Navy to attack Russia and British Jewish banker Jacob Schiff financed the Japanese during the war”
        Jacob Schiff wasn’t a ‘British Jewish banker’. He was born in Frankfurt am Main in 1847, and later emigrated to America, becoming a naturalized citizen of the United States in September 1870.

  14. Robert, you should right an article about “anti-semitic” theories and which ones you believe are true and wich ones are false.

  15. I don’t really understand the premise of white nationalism. I don’t see that whiteness constitutes a nationality. Do Lithuanians really belong to the same nationality as the Irish?

    1. He started off as a liberal in college, was a mainstream conservative in the Reagan years. Robert Lindsay interviewed him around 2006 when he was starting on his current topic.

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