More Illegal Immigration Madness

Repost from the old site.
First off, let me start out by saying that I am a Leftist. In fact, I am a Communist. However, unlike 99% of Leftists, I actually oppose illegal immigration. Why? Because it is one of the worst things that has ever happened to American workers of all colors.
In my town, I figure that 85% of local Hispanics support the illegals that run amok all over here. The reason for that is clear. Hispanics, like every other group except Whites, are allowed to be and even encouraged to be ethnocentric.
What’s completely insane about is that in their ethnocentrism, Hispanics are really hurting themselves. You never see a Help Wanted sign in this town. Why would you, when the unemployment rate is 11%? Yet I don’t know one single illegal alien who is out of work. It seems 100% of them are working.
My White friend has roofing skills. He goes down to the local hiring hall and tries to get hired, but he does demand $9/hr. That’s $1 over minimum wage. Yet every time, the employers say that some illegal over there will do it for $4-5/hr (that’s far below minimum wage).
Also, my friend says that every job he applies for demands bilingual skills in Spanish. As he is not bilingual, he is SOL.
I find this ridiculous. It might be slightly sensible if these Spanish speakers were natives who had lived here since 1850 and hence had some right to their native tongue.
Instead, almost all of the ones you will need to use Spanish with are illegal aliens who hopped the border in the past 20 years. The notion that one cannot get a job in the US unless one speaks a foreign language is preposterous. I think it ought to be illegal.
Bottom line is I know all sorts of young Americans around here who are out of work. Now, they aren’t always the most wonderful citizens, but if there were Help Wanted signs all over town, I think they could work somewhere.
Instead, they are unemployed and spend their days involved with gangs, crime, tagging, rolling drunks, fighting with gang rivals, leeching off their stupid girlfriends, engaging in petty thievery, and especially smoking dope. They just in general act highly uncivilized.
I would like to point out here that in a manner that is little discussed, illegal immigration has been partly responsible for gangsta culture, drug abuse, laziness, and just general cultural degeneration among young Americans of all races.
Studies have shown that as illegal immigration has increased over the past 20 years or so, the number of young Americans who count themselves as “discouraged workers” who have dropped out of the labor force has grown significantly.
The two things must be related.
Illegals are taking all the low-skilled labor and these were the sort of jobs young Americans cut their working teeth on in their youth. With no work to do, young Americans become discouraged, drop out and culturally degenerate in various ways.
In the comments section, commenter Lafayette brings up a highly pro-immigrant Weltanshauung in the UK involving Polish workers. The content is familiar. Britons are told endlessly the society will collapse if not for the immigrants. There are so many jobs that young Britons just will not do. If the immigrants go, the economy will tank. On and on.
I don’t know the dynamic of Polish immigrants in the UK, but I assume that they are working for lower wages than Britons work for. Otherwise the entire UK media would not be cheering them on. I also noticed an article recently that said that Polish workers were better workers than British workers.
This is part of the pro-immigrant culture that we went through in the West under Reagan. Starting under Reagan, a new culture developed in America whereby rightwingers repeatedly endlessly what crappy workers Americans were, especially blue collar workers. There was no evidence for this whatsoever, but the talk went on.
Americans, mostly young Whites, were also told that blue collar jobs were for losers. The only way to be a winner in America was to run a business or work in an office. Good, honest, US working class culture was degraded with an incessant drumbeat. At the same time, the illegals started to pour in.
I think that these two things were connected.
There was a concerted rightwing project to tell young Americans that working class jobs were for losers and that US working class workers were crappy workers, combined with the beginnings of a total flood of unskilled labor from south of the border. The unstated assumption: the US working class all needed to be replaced by immigrants, especially illegals from Mesoamerica.
At the same time, an all-out war was waged on unions, the organizations of the US working class. The notion was also promoted that Americans are some kind of sissy fussbudgets who will not do any kind low-status labor. Therefore, we needed to import millions of illegals to do this work or else the economy would collapse. We were also regularly harangued with stories about phantom labor shortages.
After about 15 years or so of mass unskilled illegal immigration, the US Left did an about-face and decided to represent the interests of immigrant scabs over native workers. The nasty and wicked notion that normal, sane and reasonable opposition to illegal immigration was racism (!) was promoted, and soon wormed its way through the whole culture to where it is now widely accepted.
After that, the labor unions themselves, the last holdout of the workers, went over to the immigrant scabs, and US workers were finally left completely high and dry.
I would like to point out that the entire MSM was complicit in this, and they are to this day. Realize that if the MSM is consistent about any one thing, it is their sheer and utter contempt for labor. There is not one single major US newsmagazine, TV news station or large daily newspaper that is the slightest bit friendly to labor, much less organized labor.
As the UK’s lunatic pro-immigrant culture continued, these same nasty memes wormed their way into the culture. One is the notion that there are certain jobs that Britons simply will not do. It’s not stated, but what’s implied is that Britons will not do this work for any amount of money. I don’t know about Britons, but here in the US, that’s manifestly untrue for anything other than field work.
A much more pernicious line soon followed, and this is that the foreigners are actually better workers than the natives. The Right will start this line, but soon the ultra-traitors of the Idiot Left will pick up on it.
I had an anarchist say straight to my face that US workers are lazy and incompetent, and that’s why we need illegals to replace them (!).
Lafayette also points out that in the UK, the entire Left has given up on the working class. Instead, it is supporting immigrant scabs who are being brought in for the sole purpose of driving down the cost of labor for UK native workers.
What followed after that is that the labor unions themselves got on board and supported the immigrant scabs over the interests of native workers. Since government and media never support native workers, and as Lafayette notes, the Left completely gave up on them, what this means is that native workers lost their last friend – their very own unions .
The Left here in the US and UK will respond with the pleasant-sounding nostrum that what is needed is to organize all of the immigrants, especially the illegals. The problem is that this feel-good fall-back position is utterly doomed to failure.
The notion that organizing these illegals is going to help anything is even more idiotic here in the US than it is in the UK. Unionization in the US has been plummeting since the 1950’s and in particular since 1973. Unions are now so weak that it’s ridiculous. That they are suddenly going to organize all of these immigrant scabs and regain all their power and glory is comical.
Even if they did organize the immigrants, as Lafayette notes, what good is it with ten or more workers lining up for every unskilled job? All the unions in the world are pretty useless in the face of a tidal wave and resulting massive glut in unskilled labor.
Under capitalism, labor is like pricing – it is based on supply and demand. Massive oversupply of low-skilled labor will result in the bottoming out of the price of labor just as massive oversupply in a type of goods will result in the collapse in the price of that particular widget.
So with fields like construction totally glutted with low to unskilled workers, the high-paying construction jobs of yesterday are never coming back, whether you organize the immigrant scabs or not.
US unions can’t even organize US workers and get them to join unions. How will they organize a bunch of illegals who can’t even speak English?
P.S. I am not a xenophobe. I do support limited (200,000 a year?), tightly controlled legal immigration. The immigrants should be rigorously analyzed, and the vast majority of potential immigrants should be rejected. Immigrants should be required to jump through many hoops in order to prove to us exactly how they will be an asset to our nation instead of adding to our nightmarish underclass.
Educational, legal and other histories should be reviewed. Those immigrants from whatever land who successfully run this tough gauntlet are likely to be net benefits as opposed to net detractors to our nation.
One of the principal problems with illegal immigrants is that it is unscreened, so instead of getting high-quality immigrants, we get the peasantry and urban poor of the Third World. They are unlikely to be net benefits to our land in either the short or long run. Chain migration (family reunification) should be drastically scaled back or ended altogether.

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  1. After about 15 years or so of mass unskilled illegal immigration, the US Left did an about-face and decided to represent the interests of immigrant scabs over native workers. The nasty and wicked notion that normal, sane and reasonable opposition to illegal immigration was racism (!) was promoted, and soon wormed its way through the whole culture to where it is now widely accepted.
    I can’t tell you how angry this betrayal makes me. The one group you can insult with impunity in the US is working class white people. Unskilled, illiterate illegal brown immigrants are holy and wise, and white American manual workers and skilled tradesmen and women are stupid, evil and reactionary.
    Especially galling are the liberal traitors like Matthew Yglesias, who considers us all disposable, yet probably makes six figures typing his inane ideas onto a keyboard:
    http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/04/immigration-principles/
    People wildly underestimate the extent to which immigration is a positive-sum interaction that leaves almost everyone better off. It’s true that as is typical in life some individual people are harmed by high levels of immigration, but those people are a distinct minority. It makes dramatically more sense to try to improve the living standards of native-born Americans through higher taxes to finance more and better public services than it does to try to improve the living standards of native-born Americans through trying to prevent people from moving to the United States to do work in exchange for money.
    This is such bullshit. You can have either open borders or a welfare state. You cannot have both. Low wage earners don’t pay taxes. The California welfare state is collapsing under the weight of illegals. 40 percent of workers in LA county work for cash and do not pay taxes. 40 percent!
    The day I saw signs at the immigration rallies demanding an end to sweatshop raids was the day I lost all sympathy for illegals. The nerve.
    A much more pernicious line soon followed, and this is that the foreigners are actually better workers than the natives.
    I hear this line from so-called liberals all the time! That asshole Nezua talks about white people not being hard enough workers. The message is: Who are you to think you deserve to be treated better than a slave? And this is from so-called leftists. Walter Reuther is spinning in his grave.
    The affluent liberals posting “Love knows no borders” on their Facebooks are perfectly happy to have a permanent slave caste in the US. They love the cheap domestic labor. They sneer at white people who don’t want to pull chicken guts for five bucks an hour. The jobs that “white people don’t want to do” are just jobs that white (and not just white) people won’t do for peanuts. And many of these SWPL idiots have useless cube monkey jobs that contribute nothing.
    It’s also notable that the Nezuas of the world are willing to take down the black working class in their quest to settle scores with white America. The black worker has been completely forgotten in this equation, and their own so-called leaders follow the party line and keep quiet on this. I can see why they are reluctant to align with many white people on this issue, but open borders do not benefit them in any way.
    I had an anarchist say straight to my face that US workers are lazy and incompetent, and that’s why we need illegals to replace them (!).
    This is so untrue. Most of my relatives are hard workers and very handy, though they can’t get decent paying jobs using those skills. Several of my relatives either built their own houses (by hand) or do all their own home improvement work. There is more than enough skilled and unskilled labor here, and TPTB know it. It’s just about destroying what’s left of the New Deal and labor rights, and the CRT assholes are collaborating with them, whether they know it or not.
    US unions can’t even organize US workers and get them to join unions. How will they organize a bunch of illegals who can’t even speak English?
    Yeah, seems pretty obvious, doesn’t it? And don’t get me started on the idiot Trots and other lefty fantasists, who couldn’t organize a trip to Dunkin’ Donuts.
    P.S. I am not a xenophobe. I do support limited (200,000 a year?), tightly controlled legal immigration.
    Same here. There is no need for immigration during a depression. Oh, and it would be nice if they could demonstrate some success in educating and employing the people who are already here. Figure out how to get Detroit’s graduation rate above 68%, and its unemployment rate below 50% first. The US has utterly failed in dealing with its own native-born underclass. The last fucking thing we need is more lumpenproles.

    1. Couldn’t have said it better myself, Lafleur.
      Open borders is bullshit, and a drag on our society.
      It’s time to punish the business elites and the racially liberal elites who permit this.

  2. Madness? THIS IS SPARTA!!
    Anyway I fully support mass immigration both legal and illegal into the US especially countries the US is commiting genocide against like Mexico, Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc and the colonies they run.

  3. Robert —
    This may be of some interest to you.
    Below are excerpts from a talk I gave to the national conference of the Council of Conservative Citizens back in 2009. What is interesting is that not a single person there criticized what I said although I was obviously criticizing capitalism.
    Millions of people throughout the world want to move to the United States. For these people to become immigrants, there must be some demand for them in the U.S. Many different groups are quite vocal in demanding more immigrants. Priests and preachers want immigrants who will attend their churches. Landlords who have some decrepit property to rent know that they will be able to rent it to immigrants. Labor leaders look to immigrants as more members for their unions. Merchants seek an influx of immigrants because they want more customers.
    The list goes on, but not one of these groups actually enables immigrants to come to the U.S. Only one large and important group enables mass immigration: employers. Employers are most vocal and effective in their call for more immigrants. They see in immigrants more employees, employees who will work for a lower wage than American citizens. Employers admit the basis of their interest in immigrants, but they also insist that mass immigration is “good for the economy.” Employers are the primary material cause of mass immigration into this country.
    Although capitalism is a more productive economic system than is socialism, capitalism (like all human systems) has its flaws. The great engine of capitalist productivity seems to turn over and run at its highest efficiency only when it is fueled with injections of cheap labor. The cheap labor may be generated by slavery or mass unemployment or mass immigration. However the cheap labor is found, it is an easy way to widen profit margins. Furthermore, many employers insist that they could not make a profit at all without resort to cheap immigrant labor.
    Spokesmen for employers, such as The Wall Street Journal and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who insist that profits cannot be maintained without mass immigration, are in ironic agreement with Karl Marx. Marx maintains in Das Kapital (1867) that “a surplus labouring population” is “a condition of existence of the capitalist mode of production.” What he calls “an industrial reserve army” is needed to lower wages and enable profitability. Usually, this industrial reserve army consists of the unemployed, but in the last chapter of Das Kapital, on colonies, Marx adds immigrants to the list of those who can serve that purpose.
    The advocates of open borders say that labor is just another commodity, a commodity which should freely cross borders in the new world order of free trade. In this argument, they again agree with Marx. Marx maintained that capitalism treats labor, and the workers themselves, as simply a commodity. Neoconservatives especially want us to accept this idea that labor should be just another commodity in international commerce.
    Neoconservatives are the former liberals who are President George W. Bush’s advisors and who believe that the economic system is all that needs to be conserved. Recently, one of them presented a novel reason why more immigrants are needed: not enough Americans drop out of high school to produce the needed number of cheap laborers. Time and again in the past we have been told that unlimited immigration is needed to bring in the highly educated. Now the uneducated immigrants are desirable while high levels of American education are the problem.

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