Black People and Anti-Racists Do Not Understand the Nature of White Racism At All

Alpha Unit says:

You don’t have to go to these sites to understand the nature of racism. Experiencing racism teaches people a lot about it.

Then why do Blacks understand it so poorly? I go to the Abagondsphere and listen to all those Blacks there going on about White racism, and 90% of what they are talking about are paranoid hallucinations. I’ve lived White for 50 years, and I know my people inside and out. I also understand the nature of their racism and all of the subtle nuances to extreme degrees of it.
For one thing, the Abagondsphere lumps all “racist” Whites together as KKK members. The entire anti-racist movement does this too. There are no differences in the degree of racism among Whites. It’s a binary distinction. One is either non-racist or anti-racist, for which angelic purity is demanded for Whites but not for anyone else, especially Blacks and Browns themselves; or one is a racist, in which case the guy who tells one nigger joke in a lifetime is the same as George Wallace. That’s breathtaking. Black people truly don’t get us.
Let’s look at a scale of White racism. 1% is the lowest level next to zero, and 100% is the highest. What I get from the Abagondsphere, from the anti-racist community, and from Blacks in general is that it’s all the same.
WTH.
Furthermore, they all, I mean all give Blacks a permanent pass on their considerable racism. I honestly believe that Blacks are more racist than Whites. I have seen polls showing that 34% of Blacks and 31% of Whites had considerably racist feelings towards the other. No surprise at all. It’s well known that Blacks hate us more than we hate them. Any White person knows that.
The more I hear these Blacks, the more I think they don’t understand White people and White racism at all.

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  1. I grew up being very sensitive to racism against non-white by white people and would feel indignation towards white people who were racist. As I got older I experiences various non-white people be very insensitive to white people on a racial level.
    I would try to be nice and so on and they would just complain more and more and as I would try to be sensitive to their concerns they would then say that I was still racist because of white privilege. And so my concern for them was used as an opportunity to attack me.
    I asked what they meant by white privilege and they said cops frisk blacks more or something but I got frisked all the time for just walking down the street when I was a teenager because our cops where I live are mental.
    Im just sick of dealing with minorities. I have enough of my own problems to worry about. I’m sick of hearing them go on about race and expect me to play some sort of parental role because I’m white. People got to learn to look after themselves.
    I hate white guilt liberal white people because they just make everything awful. They speak as if working class whites don’t exist and they speak as if all whites have perfect l ives. Maybe they have perfect lives but I wish they would stop giving us other whites trouble.
    I’m just really tired of it all. I’m just tired of white people trying to be the parents of everyone. Minorities wouldn’t be acting like this if white people weren’t rewarding them for this behavior. Furthermore white people want to be parental towards the middle east. This is all crazy. Our country is going down the tubes and now they expect us to play the wise father to the people of the middle east.
    It’s crazy.

    1. “I grew up being very sensitive to racism against non-white by white people and would feel indignation towards white people who were racist. As I got older I experiences various non-white people be very insensitive to white people on a racial level.”
      Quoted from “Wade in Mo, the life story.”
      “I would try to be nice and so on and they would just complain more and more and as I would try to be sensitive to their concerns they would then say that I was still racist because of white privilege. And so my concern for them was used as an opportunity to attack me.”
      This reminds me of a what you see in fights. As one fighter perceives that he is loosing he begins to ball up and begins get really beaten. The other fighting seeing this starts to explode. They get more aggressive and attack more and more.
      You must realize that we are essentially in a large fight. A struggle for life. You must not show a soft side to these people. That does not mean that you have to hurt them or anything like that, but realize that even if a particular one is not after you, most of the rest are. Eventually they will crack down on the friendly ones, who will gladly fall in line will the rest if he/she is pressured or find that it is in his/her interests.

      1. Good god, you guys are so melodramatic you should get fucking Oscars. “A struggle for life”??? WTF? lol. Look, here is the way I see it. And I’ve spend time reading everything from hard racist sites like Stormfront, to the lighter racist stuff like Jared Taylor to the Agabond, Cornel West and Ta Nehinsi Coates stuff. I think I have a pretty good grasp on the race arguments from all sides. One thing I’ve come to realize is that neither group understand its own behavior from the prospective outsiders. Black people can be ugly in behavior when viewed from the outside which is entirely invisible from the inside, and the same goes for whites. Both just get defensive and shut down when their group is criticized and point the finger at one another as the source of racial tension. Both sides have some uncomfortable truths about each other as well as a lot of bullshit that needs to be sorted out. Black crime is a major cause of white racism. AND white privilege exists. It’s not mutually exclusive. Of course Cornel West is never going to address black crime and Jared Taylor could give a fuck about addressing white privilege yet alone even acknowledging its existence. Neither side WANTS to believe their side plays any negative role.

        1. I’m a moderate when it comes to race, I just am sick of hearing about it. I’m not of the opinion that we are in some sort of life and death racial struggle. But I really am tired of hearing about the racial BS in American media.

        2. ” “A struggle for life”??? WTF? lol.”
          It’s not my phrase. The subtitle to Charles Darwin’s epoch making book The Origin of Species is, “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.” Granted, he was talking about different races of animals more than anything about humans, but the fact is that we’re animals too. When I refer to “the struggle for life” I don;t me that we’re in some large race war where pitched battles are occuring across the country. I’m strictly talking about the ability of different groups to reproduce and raise offspring. If one group is getting benefits over another group then that group can either have more children or invest more in fewer children. The side that is not getting the benefits can only invest less in fewer children or invest less in more children. Either way they’re worse off. If your part of the group that benefits fo course it only makes sense to support the status quo, especially if you benefit from a specific program. (If I were black, I would most likely be a supporter of Sharpton types too.) It’s more of a long tern subtle ‘war’, not some RAHOWA situation.
          “Black crime is a major cause of white racism”
          I’m probably rare amongst “racially conscious” people in that I do not believe black crime is the quite a big of a deal as many think it is. Yes, blacks commit a disproportionally large
          of crime. I don;t like crime but it can be avoided easily, especially if you’re not dirt poor in a large city. Frankly on a racial level (but not an individual level) people like Tim Wise and Noel Ignatiev have done much more harm to white than those thousands of interracial rapists that white nationalists obsess over. I don’t even think that blacks or black criminals even rank all that high on the list of “enemies” of white americans. If I was forced to make a list I would say that the most dangerous enemies of whites are (in no particular order): white hispanics, east asians, south asians, and jews. If you’re not rich, then upper class whites are also a huge “enemy”, in some ways even more so that the other “enemies” listed. All of those groups have realatively low crime rates, but do damage that is much more profound and much harder to avoid than some black teenager robbing a convenience store. Frankly, if blacks didn;t do and believe so many weird things that are funny, I really wouldn’t pay much attention to them at all. Most of the affirmative action type programs blacks couldn’t have gotten without massive aid from others. The reality is that if you’re out of handgun range, blacks really can’t hurt you. I don;t see why there;s such an obsession amongst WNs with a group that they think is totally stupid and shiftless. Doesn’t seem like a threat to me. Their enablers are a different story though.

        3. “Thats the most dangerous place; when you hold your ideology sacred and refuse to question it.”
          I don;t hold my ‘ideology’ as sacred. I don’t even know if you could really call me totally ideological on this sort of race issue any more than you can say that a man defending himself in a fight is doing it for ideological reasons. I don’t really want to fight other people. If we could remake society differently I probably would, but we can’t. We can’t start out on a blank slate. Those who say we can change society from the base we have know are most likely those with power and money who want to change things for their benefit, or those who hold really far out opinions like CRT. We have to play the hand we’re dealt the best we can, and that involves not allowing yourself to be a bitch for a group that hates you.

        4. Truth. Tulio hit the nail on the head, and I think that only by avoiding totalizing and essentialist narratives in the debate of racism, bigotry, etc… that we can see things for what they are: complex, fluid, and context dependent. Robert Lindsey is correct that many Blacks and White anti-racists don’t understand the nature and variations of White racism, and the opposite of that is also true.
          One of the main problems is that these extreme rhetorics develop, because folks don’t bother to just treat everyone with equal respect, and not make sh*t uncomfortable in ever conversation they have with people of other ethnicities. As an anthropologist that’s worked and a studied low-income, minority community first hand, these extreme views aren’t really positions widely held by a lot of folks in the Black community the way it’s portrayed in the media or online. If a White guy/gal enters into a dialogue with a non-white person with any narcissistic intention (self-discovery, paternalistic guilt, etc…) then it’ll show, and it’ll just make everyone feel really uncomfortable. There’s nothing wrong with talking about racism if it comes up, but forcing the f*cking conversation on people help no one, and makes meaningful dialogue with others impossible.
          I can’t actually remember ever talking about racism with any of the Black guys/gals I’ve known, hung out with, been friends with, in my life. It just never came up.
          In fact, in times when it did come up during my ethnographic studies, I found that people had more nuanced views than you’ll ever find in the blogosphere, or among the race baiting demagogues that make a living off of racism, and who’s self-esteem and jobs require there to be racism. I think what helps is the fact that I grew up on the Texas border in a very poor town, and my high school had a 50% drop out rate. The town was 98% Mexican and Mexican-American, including White Mexicans (which include half my family). Very few Americans, let alone minorities, have known what it is to be a 2% minority in terms of skin color. I grew up thinking that a lot of people just didn’t like White people, so when I moved further north and first heard the White-guilt rhetoric, I was blown away. You’d be amazed at how quickly someone will shift gear when you call them out on their sh*t. A lot of ridiculous, privileged, White folks have no idea that a lot of what they assume is “acting black” is just a dramatic performance put on for their own benefit. The truth is that most Black folks don’t act in such stereotypical ways when non-Black folks aren’t around.

  2. Minorities wouldn’t be acting like this if white people weren’t rewarding them for this behavior
    Bingo.
    If white Americans were more like white Russians, or the Chinese and Japanese when it comes to dealing with troublesome minorities, blacks would start showing a little more manners.
    They adapt this whole “I said fuck you cracka, and what’s yo white azz gonna do about it?” attitude because WE PERMIT IT.
    For example, pro-DREAM Act supporter, and UCLA professor Kent Wong said that these kids would eventually replace old white men in the senate, to much applause from his non-white audience.
    Does he get in any trouble at all? Nope, he continues to enjoy life as a professor, and be rewarded for his anti-white statement.
    It’s crap like this that has to end.
    I highly doubt that white Russians, Han Chinese, or others would tolerate minorities so hostile towards them.

    1. “I highly doubt that white Russians, Han Chinese, or others would tolerate minorities so hostile towards them.”
      True. I don’t know if I’d want to use the type of violence that ethnic Russians use on people though.
      Also, I know I’ve said this before, people need to get their ethnonyms correct. White Russia refers to Belarus and White Russians to Belarusians. The country used to be called Belorussia unti independence from the Soviet Union. The term you’re looking for is ‘ethnic Russian’ or ‘Great Russian.’

      1. I certainly would not want to use UNPROVOKED violence or violence of AGGRESSION.
        Still, the point remains that white countries put up with WAY TOO MUCH crap from minorities.
        All I know is that if a Uighur were to kill several Han Chinese Shannon Christian and Christopher Newsome style, the Han wouldn’t stand for it.

        1. Yes but I don’t think every black on white crime is racially motivated and blacks kill eachother in rates much higher than they do whites.

        2. “All I know is that if a Uighur were to kill several Han Chinese Shannon Christian and Christopher Newsome style, the Han wouldn’t stand for it.”
          Yes, but if a Han were to kill several Chinese in such a manner he might get away with it. That is what is starting to happen in Russia. “Nationalist” groups (really neo-nazis who try to pass themselves off as nationalists) have been attacking people in Russia who aren’t even immigrants for no reason and have been getting away with it. Russians have no right to attack Tatars, Buryats, Chechens, etc. for being in Russia when Russia occupies their land. It would be as if I attacked a Comanche and told him to get out of the United States. Also, no one bothers to consider what would have if these type of neo nazi groups ever gained power in a country. I doubt you would see freedom of speech or any type of intellectual debate on anything. Thuggery would prevail because most of these types of groups act just like the ghetto niggers they hate so much. Also, if you study Russian history, you will find that extreme violence is nothing new to these people. What happens with neo nazi groups in Russia should be seen in context with how violent they’ve been AT LEAST since the mongol conquest. I would not want to start a “tradition” like that here. I agree that we shouldn;t take crap from them and violence may be needed in defense, but preventative measures like keeping them out in the first place are much better. Much violence perpetrated by the Han and the Russians is more for reasons of repression than of defense.

        3. “Yes, but if a Han were to kill several Chinese in such a manner he might get away with it”
          Should be, “if a Han were to kill several Uighur”

        1. ” I’m fearful of what’s going to happen to non-whites visiting for the games when the stands are are going to be full of neo-nazi ultra-nationalist soccer thugs”
          I’m not. The world cup is big money and Russia’s image is big money. Neo nazis may have mastered killing immigrants, but over the centuries the Russian government has mastered killing Russians much more effeicently. My guess is that the first neo-nazi to attack a tourist will find out what his own pancreas tastes like. South Africa is an extremely violent country, but they managed to hold it together pretty much during the world cup. Russia probably will too.

        2. @tulio
          That happened because a North Caucasian Muslim murdered an ethnic Russia who then the police arrested then released when a gang of North Caucasions surrounded the police station.
          Read the last comment in the post it give a good description of what happpened.
          http://www.austereinsomniac.info/blog/2010/12/14/absolute-bollocks.html#comments
          Not the first time North Caucsus Muslims have killed ethnic Russians in Moscow and other regions as well as Central Asian immigrants.
          Like in the US with minorities most of the crime especially serious violent and organised crime are commited by immigrants from the North Caucasus and Central Asia.
          The Council of Europe actually mandates that Russia has a quota sysem for minority groups in the countrry.
          @Wade in MO
          As you should know when Russia was under minoirty Communist rule millions of Russian were killed and the country was in turmiol it was only during Stalin’s reign and national program and reasserting Russian dominance that Russia started progressing again.

      2. @Wade in MO
        Russians have no right to attack Tatars, Buryats, Chechens, etc
        Funny I thought Moscow and St Petersburg were Russian lands.
        Russians don’t have a problem with Tatars only with Central Asian and North Caucasus Muslims who come to Russian regions for work because they have fucked up there own regions are hyper aggressive, extremely violent and openly hostile to ethnic Russians.
        Chechens are occupying Russian land that was never an independent country and repeatedly fought on behalf of foreign powers who have expanded there territory the North of Chechnya resulting in ethnic cleansing is historically and traditionally Terek Cossack territory.
        US should not complain about mass immigration into there country when they colonise there countries like Mexico or Venezuala.

        1. “Funny I thought Moscow and St Petersburg were Russian lands.”
          Ingria is Russian?
          Besides, as long as Russians insist on occupying Chechnya it is all part of the same land.
          “Chechens are occupying Russian land that was never an independent country and repeatedly fought on behalf of foreign powers who have expanded there territory the North of Chechnya resulting in ethnic cleansing is historically and traditionally Terek Cossack territory. ”
          What contitutes a foreign country to you? Chechens have live there since time immemorial. Why shouldn’t Chechens side with foreign powers against the foreign Russians when the Russians are trying to control them. I guess Chechens “ethnically cleansing” a Terek Cossack territory would be kind of like American Indians “ethnically cleansing” encroaching white settlers. Sounds like bullshit to me.
          “US should not complain about mass immigration into there country when they colonise there countries like Mexico or Venezuala.”
          There is no comparison here. The Chechens are internal migrants within the Russian state, not immigrants. If Russians don;t want them there they should let their country go and send them back.

        2. What constitutes a foreign country to you? Chechens have live there since time immemorial.
          No they migrated from the Caucasus mountains which they are free to run it how they want. That is there immemorial territory.
          Russian settlers and other ethnic groups have been in Grozny as long as the Chechens have.
          I guess Chechens “ethnically cleansing” a Terek Cossack territory would be kind of like American Indians “ethnically cleansing” encroaching white settlers. Sounds like bullshit to me.
          So it is OK for the Chechen to steal Russian territory that has always been Russian and only incorporated into Chechnya during the 50’s/60’s by Kruschev?
          It is the Chechens that encroached into Terek Cossack territory not the other way around. So your analogy is BS and can be thrown back at you.
          If Russians don;t want them there they should let their country go and send them back.
          They were given semi-independence after the first war and even after the collapse of the USSR where there was no major control by Russia and they immediately expanded their territory into neighbouring Dagestan and acted as a destabilising force for the whole North Caucasus as well as Russia.

  3. The thing about visceral “white racism” is, it is attentuated in some meaningful way, by substantial space still available in the US (as contrasted for example with Europe) to simply get away from behaviors which stimulate its onslaught.

    1. “it is attentuated in some meaningful way, by substantial space still available in the US ”
      You don’t think that there’s space in Russia?
      I think there are several major differences.
      First, whites in the US are very diverse themselves. This makes it hard to organize. I think that there’s something similar in the UK with the BNP. It is kind of hard to have British nationalism when there is no British nation but rather three seperate nations and part of a fourth nation contained in the UK. If you consider the Cornish to be a seperate nation, then there;s even more.
      Second, many whites don;t feel “rooted” in the US. They may identify themselves with the nation or nations that there ancestors came from. (See number one) In Europe you cannot do that, because you ancestors are from the country you live in. Although I have heard people from England came that they are pure german anglo-saxons and people from the island off northern scotland claim to be vikings. No one really seems to take them seriously though.
      Third, many white americans (and most americans) live very comfortably and have become soft.
      Fourth, there is no uniting ideology in the US. In Europe they can rally around their historic nations. Many whites in the US refuse to recognize themselves as a unique group, so they try to unite “irish” and “germans” under the banner of whiteness. No one in history has ever organized themselves around such a thing until the 1930s and even then you couldn’t really equate nazism with US ideas about the white race.
      The fifth is of course the more effective brain washing system in the US.
      A possible six is that some whites have actually been fooled into thinking that the Republican party is really “the white man’s party” despite the harm it has done to whites who aren;t extremely rich.. This prevents an actual pro-white american party from forming.
      I think the first crucial steps whites need to take to truly defend themselves is to recognize that they are a unique group. Maybe even come up with their own name. Second, they need to abandon the Republican party. The second one seems much more likely to happen in the near future.

      1. I could have said “given the White American temperament” you aptly describe causative factors thereof, the space option presents itself, in contrast with Russ who stand and fight.

  4. preventative measures like keeping them out in the first place are much better.
    Co-sign!
    Although at least with blacks, it’s a way too late for that.
    For certain bothersome Hispanics, there’s still hope.
    (let’s start by defeating the DREAM Act)

    1. I have mixed feelings on the Dream Act. We need a more reasonable position if we’re going to sway anyone’s mind on this. These people did not choose to come here and many have not returned to their home countries since they’ve been here.
      First all potential amnesty seekers who came here under the age of 18 must undergo criminal background and drug tests. If they are found to have committed any crime other than driving without a license (illegal immigrants often can not obtain licenses) they’re out of here.
      Secondly they will have to pledge their undivided allegiance to the US and terminate citizenship to the country of their birth.
      Thirdly we will limit the amount of money they can send out of the country except in the case of an emergency.

      1. “First all potential amnesty seekers who came here under the age of 18 must undergo criminal background and drug tests. If they are found to have committed any crime other than driving without a license (illegal immigrants often can not obtain licenses) they’re out of here.
        Secondly they will have to pledge their undivided allegiance to the US and terminate citizenship to the country of their birth.
        Thirdly we will limit the amount of money they can send out of the country except in the case of an emergency.”
        I believe that would be called the (wet) DREAM act.

        1. Maybe I’m naive about illegal immigrants since I live in the Northeast where they small in number, and the ones I interact with are not really a threat, but have you been exposed to illegal immigrants in Missouri? I know Missouri has a low percentage of hispanics compared to the rest of the country.

        2. “but have you been exposed to illegal immigrants in Missouri? I know Missouri has a low percentage of hispanics compared to the rest of the country.”
          Yes. We also have a bunch of legal ones too. St. Louis is not the only area affected either. I was shocked a few years ago when I was down in the Ozarks and the announced on the radio that they were looking for groups of hispanic drug dealers in the Springfield area. Granted we’re don’t have the levels that Arizona or California have, but based on my experiences with many Mexicans and what I’ve heard from others who live in heavily innundated areas, I don’t want those levels here. Do you have to eat a pile of shit to realize that eating a pile of shit is not a good thing? Of course not. Same for illegal immigrants.

        3. “I was shocked a few years ago when I was down in the Ozarks and the announced on the radio that they were looking for groups of hispanic drug dealers in the Springfield area.”
          Really? The FCC allowed them to use the words ‘hispanic’ and ‘drug dealer’ in the same sentence? I’m speechless…
          Most of the illegals I’ve had to deal with in the Northeast haven’t been a big problem. Maybe this is not a good model since Massachusetts has a low crime rate compared to the rest of the country. We’ve had some problems with Cambodian gangs in Lowell, Congolese and Ghanaian gangs in Worcester, Central American gangs in Springfield, and Cape Verdean gangs in the New Bedford/Fall River but those areas are far from Boston and I have no desire to go there. The illegals in the Boston area know that they have to behave. My biggest problem with the illegals in Boston (mostly Brazilians, Turks and Albanians) is that they send a lot of money out of the country.

  5. @gay state girl
    I live in massachusetts too and we have hispanic enclaves here that have a moderate amount of drug dealers but not in a percentage that is significantly higher than is the case in other low income neighborhoods.
    We do have plenty of crime in massachusetts but it is confined to certain areas.

      1. I live in cambridge. But I have a friend who does heroin, I’m trying to get her to stop, and when she can’t buy from white dealers she goes to the hispanic part of lynn to score some dope. But I mean its stupid for her to do that because she could easily get raped or murdered and even the white dealers could rape or murder her.
        Oh there’s drug dealers everywhere but with a lot of them they are not on the street, you have to know about them by word of mouth and make an appointment to go to their apartment.
        I’m very against drugs though. Its just a giant stupid unnecessary risk with no real rewards and much health degradation

  6. Robert Lindsay: “The more I hear these idiots, the more I think they don’t understand White people and White racism at all.”
    Greetings, Robert.
    I think that the vast majority of black Americans have three basic beliefs:
    1. That everything is racial;
    2. That they know everything about white people and white racism; and
    3. That they know everything about black people, and about how it is impossible to be both black and racist.
    If blacks don’t understand white people and white racism at all, and their purported understanding of whites and white racism is inseparable from their purported understanding of blacks and black non-racism, would it not therefore follow that blacks do not understand blacks at all? And if that is true, and as many blacks will tell you, “everything is racial,” that they do not understand anything at all?

  7. @gay state girl
    Every racial/ethnic group has its drug dealers. I dont know if anyone has more than anyone else. But to speak as though Jamaica Plain doesnt have drug dealers and Waltham is the epitomy of drug degradation seems like your being a bit misleading.
    Its possible that Waltham has as many drug dealers as Jamaica Plain. BUt to try to act like Jamaica Plain is low crime is just ridiculous and to anyone reading our message exchanges they would thing Jamaica Plain has lower crime than Waltham based on what your writing.
    There’s no agenda on your part is there?

  8. “But to speak as though Jamaica Plain doesnt have drug dealers and Waltham is the epitomy of drug degradation seems like your being a bit misleading.”
    JP has drug dealers but they’re not in the streets. It was officially named little San Juan and Menino is trying to make it cute and appealing for tourists so they sent more police officers there.

    1. Yes like Chinatown. Its full of ethnic restaurants and to be fair they are much better than the crappy ones in Chinatown where they showcase dead ducks.

  9. BUt Gay State Girl
    Jamaica Plain is a place with high statistics of violent crime. Its not a place anyone with any sense would want to go as a tourist.
    Waltham has rates of crime below the average crime rates in massachusetts and jamaica plain has rates higher than the state average.
    This is just silliness, whats next? Telling people that roxbury is a tourist attraction?

    1. Not the whole of JP just the Centre Street area with all the restaurants and bodegas and churches and iglesias and Angel Memorial hospital. Its about time. All the multiculturalist liberal idiots will rush here to eat affordable ethnic food.
      Chinatown has a lot of prostitutes yet it maintains its tourist status.
      Waltham has a lot of drugs because the Brandeis and Gann students are the biggest meth heads of all!

      1. Ya I agree that generally much of the college students are drug addicts. I have never had any problems in Chinatown. I don’t have a problem with prostitutes and sex shops, I’m not a fan of them though. The thing I try to avoid is places where there is random shootings.
        There’s plenty of ethnic food places in harvard square, but I guess your right. There will be some people who will probably buy into the hype and go and eat some ethnic food in Jamaica Plain.

        1. They are trying to make it into a touristy ethnic enclave like Chinatown and the North End. They have more affordable restaurants in Jamaica Plain and they’re pretty good. It’s high time people started discovering Caribbean food. They have a bunch of restaurants they call “Cuban” in the hope that it will attract more upper class whites but they really serve Puerto Rican and Dominican food.
          Gann Academy is a jewish high school by the way.

        2. My parents wouldn’t send any of us there because they have new age crap like yoga prayer groups and gay straight alliances and all of the students are on drugs.

        3. If people will buy into the hype of eating in these crappy chinatown restaurants and super 88 in Allston because they believe it gives them the authentic experience of an east beijing slum rather than a five star chinese restaurant in Jewton or at Master Wok than there is no reason they won’t go to Jamaica Plain.

        4. A lot of people eat in Chinatown and buy overpriced fake jewelry because they believe they are getting the authentic Chinese experience ridic.

  10. Blacks are simply not capable of sustaining or for that matter contributing much to an advanced civilization, they know it and we know it and the white-hating racist Left knows it. Far from being oppressed blacks in America live at an artificial level far above their capabilities payed for in oh-so-many ways by whites, in short they live as parasites on whites, and again, they know it and the white-hating racist Left knows it. The only thing separating Detroit from Mogadishu is white tax dollars and what little semblance of order the greater white culture is able to impose on it. The reason the screeching about white racism is so over the top, the reason for the invention of “white privilege” where no serious overt racism can be discerned, is because of the facts above. The reality of biologically-sourced continuing black failure cannot be admitted by the Left; if it were their white victims might begin to question the value of the whole multicultural charade that the Left’s power rests on. And make no mistake, this isn’t about blacks at all, no one seriously disagrees about the obvious realities, it’s about POWER, and leftists are simply lying when they pretend to believe in equality.

  11. Robert,
    Question for you. Is it possible that many whites do not understand what is perceived as racism by non-whites? I ask because for middle class blacks or the CBC, racism is mainly defined as a lack of opportunities, equality or feeling shut out along racial lines. If whites are really not all that racist and harbor no ill will toward blacks but tend to only hire or promote other whites, even if it’s simply a matter of staying in your comfort zone or being around people you can relate to, can you see how that can be seen as racist by those shut out? Of course many whites just feel that the decision was based on something not related to race, maybe like a recommendation, or a friend of a friend or something like that, but if you are shut out of those social circles, then you are just shut out. I think many whites tend to have a very limited or narrow definition for racism and the impact it has when added up.
    I think what bothers blacks the most is that many whites don’t seem to even acknowledge an obvious advantage even when it is clear that its through no fault of their own which is where all the white privilege stuff comes from.
    Personally, I don’t think most whites even think about blacks all that much, so its easy for many of them to be dismissive or a little flippant about it. Blacks perceive everything through race because we can’t escape the negative impact of it from day to day.

    1. Blacks have an even more liberal definition of racism than the one you list.
      Racist simply = white person. All whites are racist, and ONLY whites can be racist, in the eyes of black people.
      (I’m not full of it, in case you’re wondering. I’ve done my CRT studies)
      PERIOD.
      And until whites realize this, they will forever be terrified of that dreaded R word. The second they realize that blacks actually have quite a liberal definition of the term, they’ll cease to fear it.
      I know I have.

    2. WB Looking for answers!
      These comments threads are getting taken over by some pretty hardcore White racists, and we need some Blacks here to go toe with them. I try to make this a Black-friendly blog, but it’s hard when the comments threads are full of more or less White nationalist types. I jump for joy every time I see a new Black commenter on here. This site is about interaction. Seeing all these Cracker comments gets old real fast, especially as I am not down with Crackerism.
      Stick around and make yourself at home!

    3. “Personally, I don’t think most whites even think about blacks all that much, ”
      Well, I don;t unless thier doing something funny like believing whites are sterilizing them by sneaking drugs into soda brands identified with blacks. I believe there are much more sinister and powerful forces at work.

  12. BAG,
    I think you are also lumping everyone in one race together. I dont know what you mean by CRT studies but to be honest with you, I never even heard the idea that White = Racist or that blacks don’t think other blacks are racist until discovering this blog and I grew up in one of the roughest hardcore black neighborhoods in the country.
    My list is how the Civilized Black Community or the middle class blacks describe racism which frankly I have far more credibility on than you do (no offense) and can talk to this point of view confidently. I can’t speak for the ghetto black community because those are not the blacks I spend time with and I don’t understand their logic anymore than I understand the logic of whites.
    You just happen to think that ghetto mentality is how 99.9% of blacks feel. If I had to guess, I think its more of a 60% , 20% 20% breakout.

    1. By CRT, I mean Critical Race Theory.
      And I’m talking about primarily the black middle/upper middle class, and people like Michael Eric Dyson, Cornel West, Kimberle Crenshaw, Ishamel Reed (though he claims to live in the ghetto), etc.
      Frankly, I couldn’t care less about ghetto blacks. As long as I don’t walk into a black ghetto, I’m fine.
      And sorry, I’ve been told by black kids in both middle and high school that they can’t be racist, that it’s okay for them to insult me (but not vice versa), etc.
      Based on my own experience and based on reading what black anti-racist bloggers have to say, that’s my conclusion.

      1. My list is how the Civilized Black Community or the middle class blacks describe racism which frankly I have far more credibility on than you do (no offense) and can talk to this point of view confidently.
        Great, so that means you can now consult me for expertise when it comes to white people who live/spend time around non-whites!

        1. I do consult you and Robert and other whites on the point of view of Whites on non-whites. This is why I tend to ask questions instead of making wide proclamations all day long about other races. How would I know what a White person is thinking? I can only speak to the behavior and impact I think it has on me and how it is perceived by me and people like me. You though seem to know what I and others like me think about Whites because some high school kids and Cornel West (in a book) told you. I hope someday you can see the difference.

      2. Yes, you are entitled to your conclusion as am I. And guess what, they are EQUALLY worthy of consideration (think for a second on what that means. Do you believe that?)
        Furthermore, the average black person on the street wouldn’t even recognize the names you mentioned (I only knew of two and learned of them only in the last couple of years) so they certainly don’t speak for all blacks.
        Finally, have you ever thought that it might not be a good idea to form a view of the world based on the point of view of a middle or high school kids?

        1. I have to agree with this. It never occurred to me that all Whites are racist, since this is not my experience. And I’m sure that if I asked some of my older relatives if all Whites were racist, they would say no.
          Even at the height of Jim Crow in the South, Blacks were able to make distinctions among Whites. Some were dangerous. Others didn’t care for you but probably wouldn’t go out of their way to harm you. Some were kinder than others.

        2. Others didn’t care for you but probably wouldn’t go out of their way to harm you.
          I think that’s an accurate description of the general attitude whites have towards blacks.
          Most whites don’t exactly have a ton of love for blacks, but they don’t exactly hate them either. And only a very small minority deliberately go out of their way to try to screw blacks over.
          In general, I think that most whites are indifferent towards blacks. They don’t see blacks as being a relevant part of their lives. Maybe they know one or two black friends, or have a couple of black colleagues, but they generally don’t care about black people.
          And SWPL liberals (the kind of whites I live near) are willing to accept blacks to a certain extent, AS LONG AS they don’t act too black.
          SWPL’s are very guilty types, and they’ll accept black people who make them feel comfortable.
          (ie. blacks who speak with white sounding accents, blacks who don’t complain about race/racism, blacks who aren’t edgy or confrontational, etc)
          I think most whites are either indifferent towards or mildly uncomfortable around blacks, and for the most part just try to avoid them.
          (with exceptions, of course)

  13. Until I saw those abagond-type sites, I never really saw any Blacks or other minorities say White = Racist – and I’ve in South Central LA for 19 years. Is it a middle-class thing? Do these “civilized” abagond Blacks get brainwashed by this whole anti-White rhetoric or something? That shit needs to stop.
    As for these super-Ghetto LA Blacks, when it comes to Whites, all I’ve ever really seen is the occasional White joke, a few stereotypes and maybe a bit of fear/resentment of “the White man” due to most Whites being in a higher income bracket but, overall, I rarely see any actual hate towards Whites. If there’s hate, I generally see the whole “Hispanic Vs. Blacks” deal.
    Of course, I do remember that middle/high-school kids are more likely to be racist, but frankly, who cares about those idiots?

      1. “Where do they come from? How common are they?”
        I think a lot of that kind of thing has to do with being part of the black bourgeois. It seems to me that the most militant CRT people and afrocentrist types seem to be somewhat more well off. I remember when I was still going to Mizzou I was in a Spanish class with a black girl. We were talking about the slave trade in the Americas. We were discussing what is know as the triangular trade between Europe, West Africa, and the Americas where many goods, including slaves, were traded. After one guy was called and was talking about the triangular trade this black girl blurts out “What chall be tradin’? Triangles?”
        I think being mixed also has something to do with it.

        1. “I think a lot of that kind of thing has to do with being part of the black bourgeois”
          I’m not sure about this. Many ghetto Blacks consider me to be bourgeois but I don’t feel this way about Whites. You might be on to something though with the “afrocentrist types”. I think this is the group that may feel this way about Whites but they are certainly not the majority of African-Americans.

        2. “Many ghetto Blacks consider me to be bourgeois but I don’t feel this way about Whites”
          I meant it in a general trend sort of way, but I’m sure there;s a large segment that doesn’t hate whites.
          It just seems to me that some people who don’t go thourgh what you might call the “traditional black experience” try to compensate by going radical on some issues. One way for a richer black to feel some kind of cross-class kinship with poor blacks is too keep harping on racism or slavery even when it doesn’t make sense. Another example is sometimes mulattos will go crazy with black nationalism to make themselves feel more black. It just seems weird that Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright are such extreme black nationalists when they obviously have a large amount of white ancestry. I’m not black though, so I’m not going to claim to be some sort of expert in the area. Just an observer.

  14. i have a question,who here conciders themselves as liberals and progressives?that way the normals will know how to respond to you’r ons sided thinking.

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